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With Easter approaching, anyone have any cool meetups soon?

>> No.10141892

>>10141889
that pic is hilarious. the poor girl second from the right.

My comm just has a 4/20 meet up and that's it. Nothing really cute coming up at all

>> No.10142057

>>10141892
Everyone: "We're all here for a good time"
Dude on right: "tfw no lolita gf"

>> No.10142063

>>10141889
Can someone explain to me the brolita's outerwear to me? Is it a blazer? Is it a coat? Is it a suit jacket? It it a matching shirt and a vest over the dress bodice? Are there slits in the shoulders to let the flutter sleeves hang out? What is even happening?

>> No.10142065

>>10142063
I think it's a waistcoat worn with a black blouse.

>> No.10142067

>>10142063
looks like weirdly mismatched princess sleeves

>> No.10142107

>>10141892
AYYYY sf senpai I see ya there

>> No.10142108

>>10142107
Damn I forgot abt the chat filters

>> No.10142121

>>10141889
That dude's look is cool for generic alt fashion even though it makes bad lolita

>> No.10142132

>>10142121
are you mentally challenged or legally blind?

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>>10142121
I think that's a tranny.

>> No.10142167

>>10141892
why did you have a 420 meetup so early in the month instead of having it on actual 4/20?

>> No.10142168

>>10142167
Reread the post.

>> No.10142177

>>10142168
I am more tired than I thought, time to get off cgl and go to bed

>> No.10142331

>>10141892
>>10142107
Wish I could join you guys, I'll celebrate on the southern end of California in spirit.

>> No.10142405

rant time:

There's this guy in our comm who keeps posting on our event pages with shit like "I still don't have a dress can I come?" but he never shows up and just keeps asking the same thing every time. I can't help but feel like this is creepy code for "I just want to be around cute girls/human people dressed a certain way without participating, do I have permission to do so?". Our mods tell him that he should at least be in *some type* of jfashion or formal attire for our meets whenever he asks, so that's probably what is keeping him away for now. I am thankful for this.

I have no idea who vetted this guy or who let him in, or how he even found our closed private group, but I am extremely put off. His first introduction a couple months ago wasn't anything about himself or why he wants to be here, it was just a question about finding women's shoes in his size. On his profile its just fursuits and really horrible cosplays, nothing lolita anywhere. No photos with lolitas, nothing.

I have no problem with men who are into the fashion, our comm has men/persons who are wonderful and active and great. But I have a big fuckin problem with sissies and creepers who want to be a part of a community with young participants and think it is perfectly ok to just waltz in and be gross under the guise of "buying a dress eventually", esp when secondhand is always an option. Hell, I'd rather the guy show up in a Milanoo tragedy than keep posting about not having a dress and asking if he can still come to our meets anyway. I'd at least feel like he was trying to not be creepy.

>> No.10142411

>>10142107
i can't even join in on the 4/20 one because i don't smoke and it's limited seating so there goes my monthly meetup

>> No.10142412

>>10142405
Can you message the mods to ban him without seeming "un-pc/transphobic/etc?"

>> No.10142413

>>10142411
What about the curio fair meetup? Ik it's not hosted by the comm but ig it's better than nothing :/ I'm going

>> No.10142414

>>10142405
He needs to come out to his parents and tell them he's a lolita.

>> No.10142447

>>10142412
As much as I appreciate our mods, they are all pretty PC and I feel like they'd be more upset at me for making an assumption about him than they would about the actual guy. I did notify one of the mods that I felt comfortable with though, and they said they'd stay alert about him. That's really all I can do about it at the moment, the problem with being too PC and overly concerned about excluding people is that they wont ban anyone until AFTER the horrible thing already occurred which never made any sense to me.

I'm a fair bit older than most of the people in my comm so maybe I'm extra cautious from having seen bad shit happen to other people over the years, but something definitely doesn't feel right about the guy.

>>10142414
Dude is definitely in his 20s and wears fursuits and hatchetman/juggalo stuff so I'm not sure what's left to really come out about.

>> No.10142498

>>10142447
>wears fursuits and hatchetman/juggalo stuff

Christ...

>> No.10142542
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Our comm is doing a high tea at the state's Parlaiment House, it's pretty exciting. I had trouble with headwear so I turned a shitty target beret into something slightly passable. Concrit is always ok btw

>> No.10142544 [DELETED] 

> mfw I’m actively making meets and my once active comm is suddenly dead
I know they’re not giving me the stink eye because other meets are lacking in attendance as of late

>> No.10142545

>>10142447
If he’s a furry juggalo it’s pretty damn safe to say that something ain’t right about the guy.

>> No.10142552

>>10142542
The idea is there but I'm not sure about the execution. The ribbon bows could be much better in terms of shape, it's better to make false bows from pieces of ribbon instead of trying to tie them up, and I'd place the bows and flowers closer together, possibly with the flowers above the ribbons. The lace quality looks a bit iffy but I'm not entirely sure. Maybe get some thinner ribbon to lace through it and add more detail. No comment on the color choices since I don't know what you'll wear this with.

>> No.10142554

>>10141889
This pic needs to be cropped stat.

>> No.10142561

>>10142542
The quality of the bows and lace could use a lot of help. What does the lace of your coord look like? try to match it to that, ex: if your dress has tulle lace, find a nice tulle lace, if it's torchon, pick something thick and pretty that's also torchon. The flowers are also pretty bad. Would it look too bad without them if you fixed the lace and bows? I'm sorry anon, I can't really help much without seeing the rest of your coord, etc, but I feel it needs a lot of work to not come off as ita. Have fun at your meet though, that sounds fun!

Would a cute headdress work with your coord? It might be better than trying to make a hat out of cheap items if you have one.

>> No.10142562

does anyone actually like their comm

>> No.10142564

>>10142562
I really like mine but we only have 5-6 of us that regularly show up to meets

>> No.10142576

>>10142562
Me. We're the most amazing comm

>> No.10142587

>>10142562
My comm is huge but I really like the group of folks that usually show up

>> No.10142589

>>10142562
Yes I love my comm, I just don’t post on cgl about it because people love to start drama

>> No.10142595

>>10142545
You can take one look at him and assume he's not really here for the fashion. Which again is why I was so confused about how he even got into our closed/private group in the first place and a mod wasn't immediately concerned.
Kinda hoping he comes to at least one meet so I can see if I'm just being a judgmental asshole or not.

>> No.10142597

>>10142562
Despite the one weird guy I'm posting about, yeah my comm is actually really great. It's small but people are active and participate in events and meets. Everyone is genuinely nice.

>> No.10142655

>>10142562
I like my comm too. I've been quite unwell for a while now and haven't seen them in ages, and I genuinely miss going to meets.

>> No.10142668

>>10142562
I love my comm. I've had a lot of very fond memories being a part of it.

I just wish we'd stop attracting characters.

>> No.10142685

I wanted to have a meetup for my birthday but the weekend after my birthday is 4/20 weekend so I'm pretty sure my whole comm will be too stoned to come.

>> No.10142720

>>10142562
I like my comm in general, but I love my two lolita bffs more than anyone else within it

>> No.10142735

>>10142562
i want to like my comm but i’m just hoping for more cool well dressed girls to join and for the ita weebs to see themselves out.

>> No.10142757

>>10141892
The stuck her there because she has bodyline on.

>> No.10142829

>>10141889
We are having nothing until ILD. I orginize most our meet ups. I am busy with work and the ILD meet up so I asked months ago if anyone else is willing to orginize a meet up for easter. No one was interested, so there will be no meet ups.

>> No.10142832

>>10142562
They're okay but they tire me out. It's a minefield of avoiding the one or two bad eggs in the bunch.

>>10142720
Same, I'll always enjoy hanging out with my actual friends than the comm.

>> No.10142845

>>10142405
We have a woman in our comm who acts similar. She wears no lolita and all her plans to do so don't seem genuine. If we have a discussion she'll ask stupid questions or will remind everyone she still hasn't purchased anything yet. It's annoying as hell.

>> No.10142852

>>10142845
kinda like the annoying autist anon that wanted to join ohio comm without having any lolita because she wanted friends. lol

>> No.10142853

>>10142845
There are a whole bunch of people like this in my comm’s FB group. I guess they’ve realized that calling themselves a fan or admirer will get them booted so now they claim they’re totally planning on buying a dress for realsies even when it’s blatantly obvious to everyone that they have no such intention.
They don’t usually come to meetups unless it’s a quick informal get-together at a convention, in which case they’ll usually be wearing cosplay or some Hot Topic tier “alternative fashion” getup. They’ll always have some excuse for why they still don’t have any lolita coords and 99% of the time it will be their breast size, even if their breasts aren’t especially big.
There are also a few people who say their parents don’t like lolita and won’t let them wear it, and afaik nobody has ever seen them in real life. It makes sense if they’re kids but some of them are clearly adults going by their profile.

>> No.10142856

>>10142853
>99% of the time it will be their breast size, even if their breasts aren’t especially big

or they're landwhales but "it's totally just my boobs u gaiz" and not their 100cm waist

>> No.10142860

>>10142845
There was someone like this in my comm and they kept giving excuses why they weren't coming to meets and that they haven't bought a dress yet. I told them that they can rejoin once they have a full outfit together, then removed them from the group. They sent angry messages after and that was reason enough to ban them

>> No.10142889

>>10142562
I really like my comm, and i always look forward to our monthly meetups, even if they are pretty simple activities wise: talking to the other lolitas is the best part.
More than that, I'd say that going to meets had a positive effect on my quality of life, i started hanging out with a different kind of people and enjoying more social activities that don't involve alcohol or drugs.

>> No.10142893

>>10142168
I don't get it.

>> No.10143110

>>10142893
OP said has, not had.

>> No.10143284

>>10142856
They can still find shit to wear.

I got fucking huge and I still have things to wear and will go nowhere near my old pieces until I lose enough weight to not stretch them into oblivion. But it's no fucking excuse.

Get something custom made from an indie designer or Taobao brand that does custom. Go buy an OP from Sweet Mildred. /cgl/ will hate this, but some plain or older printed full shirred pieces from Baby or Meta can go for $100 or less. They're not going to look as good as something custom-made in that case, but you can at least show up to a meet in something.

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I'm nervous about introducing myself to a comm I want to join this coming sunday. I'm generally a nervous person with people to begin with, and my FB has very little lolita pics on it. (Very little pics in general, as I rarely use it anyway)
I think the only one I have is a harry potter coord I wore to a harry potter festival 2 years ago.
I'm terrified of them thinking I'm going to be some cringey newb ita.
I'm fretting over what coord I should wear to introduce myself. The OTT Hime Taobao set I have? Keep it simple with fruity cafe? Wear my dream dress from meta (Brick house) with all it's matching accessories? Go balls to the wall and wear honey cake?
Ahh, I just want nicely dressed lolita friends.

>> No.10144808

>>10144788
Wear something simple and comfy and have a good time. As long as you're wearing lolita, you'll be welcomed and make friends.

>> No.10144818

>>10144788
I think wearing your dream dress in a simple, put-together coord will be plenty. Maybe try to get a single coord shot of yourself to put on your facebook so that in the future other lolitas can see that you're not just a "lolita at heart". And if my experience is anything to go by, you'd have to work REAL HARD to register on people's radar as "cringey newb ita", the standards have been lowered so much by actual cringey newb itas. Like I'm talking shrieking in broken wapanese at people and flashing your petti or some shit. You'll be fine.

>> No.10144831

>>10142542
Hey anon that's a cute idea, and I see what you're going for but your bows could use a bit more refinement - see this tutorial how to make cute ones you can attach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=3N1KAyvU058

As >>10142561 said try to get a better lace that matches the dress ( spotlight has better lace than lincraft ) and make sure your flowers match your dress or accessory colours. They do look like cheap $2 ones so maybe also try getting better quality floral ones from spotlight as well if you can. Most people ( except 4chan ) can forgive some cheap looking flowers if the rest of the outfit is ok and shows effort.

I hope your high tea is fun!

>> No.10144835

>>10144788
Balls to the wall honey cake it IMO, people will want to talk to you just because of the dress so it'll be a great ice breaker. As long as it looks nicely put together you'll be fine. Although an all matching meta coord will be safe AF so if all you want is to just come in and assess the scene go with that.

>> No.10145025

>>10143284
In my experience with people like this (I somehow meet a lot of people like this) it’s not just that they don’t know where to shop, it’s that they have this idealized image of themselves as a lolita that they know will be shattered the moment they put on an actual lolita dress, even one that fits them. They don’t want to be themselves as they are now in a lolita coord, they want to be a thinner, prettier, younger, idealized version of themselves. Losing weight and learning how to do hair and makeup seems like it would be hard and in their minds they’ll never be as cute as those Japanese models or e-famous girls anyway, so what’s the point in trying and being disappointed? It’s easier to just fantasize.
I’ve made a good deal of “lolita admirer” friends in my various nerdy hobbies and even when I offer to help them buy something, sew something or even let them try on some of my stretchier dresses, they always come up with some excuse as to why that wouldn’t work for them. I think it’s a psychological thing more than anything.

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>>10144788
>>10144808
>>10144835
Okay since its going to rain that day and its at a park, Im going for comfy with brick house.
Any thoughts on what boots to go with? The napoleon boots (on the right) dont match as well but i feel theyre a little more mud sturdy than the royal cirque boots, which match better. (On the left.)
Forgot the matching brick house beret in the pic. Oh well.

>> No.10146151

>>10146147
Japan Fest?

>> No.10146155

>>10146151
no, a local cherry blossom festival.
The Comm is having a very casual picnic come as you go meet.

>> No.10146161

>>10146147
The Napoleon boots have a better silhouette. I'd save the wedges for a sweeter coord.

>> No.10146193

>>10146147
def the boots on the right. The others seem more.. sweet? I don't know, I don't think they fit at all.

>> No.10146208

>>10142562
i think most people like their comms anon. there's only something to talk about though when something big or interesting to outsiders happens, and that's usually drama. i'd wager that even people who don't like their comms don't actively DISlike them either, it's more of a "i have nothing in common with these people outside of lolita fashion" or "i always just end up hanging with my friends so i decided to just hang out with my friends instead of going to big meets" kinds of situations

>> No.10146251

>>10142562
I like my friends in my comm. Everyone else can kick rocks. I don't need no new friends.

>> No.10146256

>>10146161
>>10146193
Thanks gulls! I'm going with the napoleon boots, then.
I've worn them in muddier places before and they're usually OK. I just wipe them down with a baby wipe afterward.

>> No.10146433

>>10146147
>>10146256
Good call. Platforms work better in sweet.

>> No.10146459

Does anyone know what's up with the DC comm? They seem to have a lolita group and a j-fashion group on their facebook, and I've requested to join both twice in the past 3 months with no response to either. Are they active? They have a google questionnaire to fill out to join, and I've done it both times I requested.
I travel there often and I'll be moving there next year so I really want to meet people. I'm already active in the other comms in the area.

>> No.10146481

>>10142562
I love my comm! It's small but everyone dresses well and is friendly and kind. I love our meets and our mod is wonderful.

>> No.10146556

>>10142562
No. Mine is a mix of sjws, sex workers, and people with no personality.

>> No.10146558

>>10146147
I want to nitpick and suggest a long sleeve blouse if it's going to rain. i also think it looks better with capelettes. I agree with other anons on the boots on the right, but otherwise this is a lovely coord!

>> No.10146560

>>10146147
I'm usually impressed with newbies that wear coords like this, it shows they wear Lolita pretty frequently and are probably passionate about it
If it's just honey cake they could be a conlita, who knows. But nearly full meta coord? That's legit

>> No.10146713

>>10146560
If it's not all meta at the very least its all burando.
But thanks you guys!
>>10146558
I dont think its going to be cold, just wet. Its supposed to hover above 65 for most of the day.
Between the caplet and the layers under the skirt, I should be plenty warm.
The capelet is something I'm going to take on and off as needed.

>> No.10146718

When you go to meets do you wear full Lolita on public transport or do you get changed when you get there?

>> No.10146721

>>10146718
I live in the suburbs so I drive there in lolita

>> No.10146729

>>10146718
I think almost everyone wears it on the way. I've never heard of anyone changing at the meet unless it's an anime convention

>> No.10146953

>>10146718
I always take public transport in lolita, meets or no. It helps that public transport is pretty good in my country. The only people I’ve known who get dressed at the meetup itself are cosplayers who treat lolita as just another kind of cosplay, and a sissy.

>> No.10147005

>>10146718
Why the fuck would anyone do that ? Where would you even change? It’s best to do hair / makeup with your blouse on too.

>> No.10147008

>>10147005
I've heard of girls changing at meets because their parents don't approve of the fashion or something along those lines but as a grown ass adult not living with parents there really isn't any reason to have to do that

>> No.10147059

Does anyone visit comms while on vacation or is that kind of strange?I'm in Los Angeles a lot but live on the other side of the country. Thought it might be fun to go to check it out and go to a meet if one pops up while I'm there next.

>> No.10147134

>>10147059
No, I do the same thing when I travel! However, if you're going to LA, I suggest going to one of the smaller comms for fun because LA is so big and everyone ignores people who aren't in their established friend groups.

>> No.10147202

>>10147005
>It’s best to do hair / makeup with your blouse on too.
Why? Most blouses are button up

>> No.10147256

>>10147202
I do my make up first and then put on my coord and do my hair last.

How do you not fuck up your hair putting a dress over it.

>> No.10147331

>>10141892
I want to join your comm...

>> No.10147355

>>10147256

I usually go bottom to top with my dresses so I don't have this issue.

>> No.10147364

>>10142405
See if there can be a rule that members need to attend meets a certain amount of meets per year and wear the fashion to be in the meetup community?

>> No.10147388

>>10146718
Public transport because I'm close to the city and I don't drive. Plus, it's easier to pop in your headphones and not talk to people about what you are wearing than being in a taxi or uber

>> No.10147441

>>10146718
I go in lolita but I usually add wig and accessories when I get there because I eel those are the most attention grabbing.

>> No.10147537

>>10147355
My ass and hips are large so I can't.

>>10147388
I agree with this so much. I mentioned this in the past and some troll went off on how I'm poor for taking transit and that it couldn't possibly be because I just don't want to listen to some uber driver bitch about traffic for 15 minutes.

>> No.10147547

>>10147537
That thread was such a shitshow. I hope that even if someone tries to pick a fight like that again, everyone else is smart enough to ignore them.

>> No.10147746

>>10147547
I'm so glad that shit was remembered. Other anons disagreed with them too.
Unfortunately cgl isn't know for being able to withstand replying to bait.

>> No.10147770

>>10146718
I get changed when I get there, unless I take an uber/lyft. The bus I take to get downtown rides through ghetto/rough areas, and I'd rather not risk getting robbed and or assaulted. However, just places around town? No biggie and no issues what so ever.

>> No.10147786

>>10147770
Sounds like you go through the rough part of town but you still trust uber and lyft drivers??

>> No.10147951

>>10147134
Thanks anon! Is there a particular comm you would you recommend?

>> No.10148478

>>10144788
Went to the meet up! It was really nice. Unfortunately not a lot of people showed up but the girls I met were lovely.
Only bad thing were the grabby old chinese ladies who man handled us for pics.
That and the excess food.

>> No.10148598

>>10147786
Yep. I've yet to have a negative experience with Lyft. See the transit bus does not take highways, where uber/lyft drivers will. So going around the highways, you end up in a few rough/ghetto neighborhoods.

>> No.10148888

>>10147364
no thats... dumb

>> No.10149219

>>10148888
Not OP but why is that dumb? There are plenty of groups throughout all the different social media platforms for discussing the fashion and sharing chord pics that 'lolitas at heart' can join. I don't think it's that odd to want groups specifically for meet ups, too?

>> No.10154550

>>10149219
>chord pics

>> No.10154559

>>10142562
I don't like my comm. They're not bad, but it's a big comm so it takes long time to really get to know people. It's also very cliquey with lots of people only talking to their friends and not even bothering to introduce themselves to the rest.

>> No.10154565

Is it unreasonable if I don't want to schedule time for taking photos when I organise a meet-up? It always ends up taking too long so I wish they would just take a pic before they show up or afterwards.

>> No.10154578

>>10148888
that's a really common meetup rule tho

>> No.10154609

>>10149219
>>10154578
um sweatys thats what we call exclusionary gatekeeping!! UnU

Seriously though, I wish my comm would have this as a rule. I don't care all that much if lolitas-at-heart want to roleplay in our discussion threads but when it comes to meetup pages where we discuss times, locations and travel plans for IRL meetups it would be nice to not have a bunch of random strangers reading along.

>> No.10154618

>>10154565
It's not unreasonable at all and I don't think I've ever heard of people scheduling it specifically. Just expect that it will end up happening at the meet whether you like it or not. Usually the meet organizer just tries to do a group pic which is nice but not always necessary. Usually you will get small groups of friends taking pics together or selfies with friends.

>> No.10154620

>>10154565
It's not unreasonable at all and I don't think I've ever heard of people scheduling it specifically. Just expect that it will end up happening at the meet whether you like it or not. Usually the meet organizer just tries to do a group pic which is nice but not always necessary. Usually you will get small groups of friends taking pics together or selfies with friends.

>> No.10154643

>>10154565
It's not unreasonable but I think it is important if your comm likes to take a group photo to have a small chunk of time set aside.

What can end up happening is even more chaotic than organizing it in the first place.

>when are we taking a group photo?
>can we take a group photo?
>where are we taking it?
etc

It's a lot easier to just set a time, maybe before the actual activity begins, to take a group photo so that when it inevitably comes up it's organized. Otherwise what ends up happening is a 15 minute period of indecision of trying to plan a photo out anyway if a decision hasn't been made. You shouldn't have to set aside time exclusively for people to take personal photos... I agree with other anons that it should happen throughout the meet.

>> No.10154653

>>10154620
>>10154643
I did set a time for it with previous meets I've organised, because that's what everyone seems to do in my comm, but it ends up taking more than 1 hour anyway and it's boring for the people who don't care about taking pics. Last time we were outside and it kind of started to feel like we were making a spectacle of ourselves. I find it difficult to tell them to stop though, because those people into taking pics are also the "efamous" ones, and a big part of the comm just wants to follow what they do instead of sticking to the plan.

>> No.10154765 [DELETED] 

>>10154565
>I wish they would just take a pic before they show up or afterwards.
My comm doesn't have this problem but I can't imagine taking my pics at home instead of at the meet - most of the meets I go to have a nice setting to take pictures in so we all take th pics at the meet, not before or after.

>> No.10154779

>>10154653
>but it ends up taking more than 1 hour
That's excessive

>> No.10154785

>>10154653

Is this SF/ LA?

>> No.10154812

>>10147951
If you don't mind some driving, I know San Diego's comm is doing their annual spring picnic this weekend. It's one of their larger attended meetups and they're overall very nice to newcomers.

>> No.10155041

>>10146459
they are active, but I'm not sure why they haven't seen your request. Try pming a mod?

>> No.10155115

>>10142562
my comm is dead af but when we actually do meet it’s great. Everyone’s surprisingly well dressed (although probably bc all the itas end up in the unvetted harajuku comm but whatever) I show up to the harajuku meets sometimes just to have someone to talk to

>> No.10155129

How many meets should I go to before arranging my own? I just really like planning and throwing parties/get togethers but I don't want nobody to show up because I'm the overzealous newbie weirdo

>> No.10155170

I’m travelling to Scotland for a month in the middle of May and I wanted to see if I could meet some Scottish lolitas while there. Is there an active Edinburgh comm?

>> No.10155209

>>10155129
I don't think people will care about how many meetups you've gone to. If the event sounds fun and the venue is convenient, people will go.

>> No.10155244

>>10146718
I got changed in a hotel bathroom once. Do not recommend.

>> No.10155254

>>10155170
>>10155209
Eh, hard to tell for my comm. I do notice that meets hosted by completely new people aren't nearly as well attended, but typically the newbies choose horrible venues or post their event without enough notice for most people to plan for so maybe we just get a lot of dumbasses who join?

>> No.10155284

my local comm looks ita af but i would like one or two lolita friends irl. should i attend once or twice to try and make a couple friends or should i save myself the cringe and keep being a lonelita?

>> No.10155291

>>10146718
I just wear it on public transport! But I do know some people who get changed when they arrive due to living with people who are abusive towards it or they might be coming from work and it works out easiest. There are a few reasons to doing that other than cons. I feel like it was a bigger thing especially in Japan to change when they got to the place.

>> No.10155308

>>10155129
Depends on your comm. In my comm people don't go to meets if they don't know the organiser or if their friends aren't going

>> No.10155545

>>10155308
Dutch comm?

>> No.10155593

>>10155254
Certain people in my comm are always trying to organize shitty meets, often at hard to reach locations in bumfuck nowhere. Then they complain theirs get less interest than the meets organized by mods or other active members at nice, accessible venues. No it’s not because you’re not popular, it’s because your meet sucks. Sorry nobody wants to travel three hours both ways to drink cheap tea and eat gas station sandwiches in your grandpa’s barn. Most of us are happy to attend meets organized by people we don’t know so well as long as it sounds like it would be fun.

>> No.10155596

>>10147005
If i wore it on the BART I'd probably get a homeless guy screaming at me. Thank god i have a car

>> No.10155600

>>10147786
are you some kind of country bumpkin? uber drivers don't tend to harass you like random ghetto people on the street

>> No.10155747

>>10155596
Enjoy driving in that shitty SF traffic. I've taken the BART before and got zero comments.

>>10155600
I live in a city that is so over run by lyft/uber drivers that I have never gotten the same one twice in the past 5 years. Do they even have Lyft in the backwoods?

Also in Canada uber and Lyft aren't even allowed. Cab drivers are way more unruly with the unnecessary questions in Vancouver.

>> No.10155773

>>10155747
Uber and lyft is in Canada. But different provinces reacted differently, so bc is making them register like taxis.

>> No.10155784

>>10155600
nayrt but a couple of women have been raped by uber drivers (and many more assaulted) in my country and it's very rare to be raped by a stranger like that, so people kind of started to associate it with uber

>> No.10155793

>>10147770
In my experience I feel less sketched out in the rough areas of town. People are usually more chill about individual expression, i find that the rich fucks in “better” areas harass me a hell of a lot more and seem to be personally offended that I’m dressing different
And people in “ghetto” areas seem to accept “it’s just a fashion” a lot easier for some reason

>> No.10155797

>>10155773
When I was there in January they were not there. I had to take a cab. They do have ubereats which is odd.

>> No.10155892

>>10155784
what country is that?

>> No.10155898

>>10155747
i've had chicken bones thrown at me on the BART when i was wearing normal clothes and minding my own business. do you actually use it often? seeing homeless crazies who sleep on it all day is the norm.

>> No.10155902

>>10155793
ghetto people love yelling at women in my experience

>> No.10155904

>>10155793

idk just last weekend I've had drunk white trash scream at me for wearing toned down classic. I guess it depends on the place.

Very anecdotally though, black people and old white ladies have been the nicest to me about my outfits, other than weebs.

>> No.10155931

>>10155904
This. I have yet to have a ghetto black person confront me, mostly nice black ladies. Tbh I haven’t had a bad experience only a guy one time talking shit about me to his girlfriend while I was there with my bf, in a rich white people mall. Dude did look like white trash desu

>> No.10155948

>>10155904
Black ladies are always the kindest people and always really into what I'm wearing. Older black women tend to be really into fashion and are generally interested and really sweet, regardless of social status. I also get a lot of positive comments about my shoes even if I'm in some worn down tea parties or some old Bodyline shoes.

The only time I ever have issues with anyone is usually younger (teenagers, any race) and uppity white people. White women who fit the "can i speak to your manager" stereotype tend to be the worst and take offense to everything.

>> No.10155954

>>10155948
>>10155931
>>10155904
I think it depends, I've had 2 separate ghetto black women DEMAND why I was wearing what I was wearing, grab at my dress, and do the bob and weave, finger snapping shit when I explain that I just like dressing like this.

>> No.10155960

>>10155954
Have you never met a black person before? Young teens will do ridiculous snapping but older black girls and women don't act like that. In my experience they either just stare, make a comment about how they wore cancans when they were young, or occasionally give a compliment

>> No.10155996

>>10155960
these women were probably about 40 so...?

>> No.10156014

>>10155954
This sounds made up.

>> No.10156191

>>10156014
Why? Have you never been to a DMV?
Visit Oakland sometime. It's very fucking real.

>> No.10156278

>>10155793
>>10155904
>>10155954
>>10155596
why do people feel the need to exaggerate bad experiences to be even worse for some pity replies on an anonymous imageboard

at worst you got weird looks and MAYBE a homeless person screamed some gibberish at you but they probably just needed some change for the bus

>mean rich white people harass me!
hahahahaha you delusional bitch they might walk around you on the sidewalk but nobody gives a shit enough about you to touch/pull/harass you that much

>> No.10156310

>>10156278
This.

>> No.10156317

>>10156278
Nayrt but it definitely does happen. I've never been grabbed dressed up, but I've had a handful of sketchy encounters with dudes who feel the need to make creepy sexual comments. I wouldn't go as far as to call it all attention-seeking

>> No.10156319

>>10156191
Meet-up at the DMV. Good idea.

>> No.10156348

>>10156317
But that happens when I wear normie clothes too

>> No.10156383

>>10156278
Nyart but I have only had bad experiences with black and hispanic ghetto men, sometimes women. Older women are nice.

I have never had any negative reactions in rich white areas. Ghetto people are the worst, loudest and have no manners or decency.

That being said sometimes non ghetto black men are nice and sometimes white trash men are bad. It's not a race thing, just a male/trashy thing.

>> No.10156439
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Someone in my Comm asked if they wanted to go a Bernie Sanders rally this weekend. There are 8 going.

I loathe politics and this is the worst. You can't change Bernie Sanders supporters minds and it's bad in my Comm. Someone decided to donate money to the campaign instead of buying their DD.

>> No.10156443

>>10155931
Black people usually tell me congratulations or tell me "I love that. I need that. So cute".
Homeless usually avoid me more when I'm wearing lolita out.

>> No.10156444

>>10156278
I'm the anon who had bad black women experiences. It definitely did happen, and both times they wouldn't accept my answer of "I just like dressing like this" so they got bitchy and demanded to know the real reason. I was downtown though, and there are tons of meth heads and alcoholics and other people who lack social decency, so it doesn't surprise me.

>> No.10156455

>>10156439
Sounds like a good time.

>> No.10156462

>>10156439
Wanting to donate to a politician is fine and whatever but it would be really awkward to ask people in your comm to go.
I am a libertarian and I just stay reeeeeeeal quiet when people bring up politics in my comm.
It really isn't the place for it.

>> No.10156498

>>10156462
Isn't it funny how deluded some people are? They just assume that because you're into Jfash like them you must 100% think exactly like them, be super liberal, support Bernie, not question gender bs, etc.

People bring up so much shit just expecting everyone to blindly agree and like you I just stay reeeeaal quiet when that happens. I'm here to dress up not get shouted at or discuss politics.

>> No.10156505

>>10155041
i ended up getting in touch with a mod last week, but thanks for the help! i'm excited to go meet them, i've lived in another part of maryland for a while with basically no comm so i'm super excited to join a big one.

>> No.10156513

>>10156498
Don't bernie supporters hate liberals? Tbh I've questioned gender at a meet out loud and I actually learned some things. Maybe because I didn't ask a really dumb question that was actually meant to attack people. Though I'm still gender critical, I'm now more understanding and accepting about transgenders. If you're interested, Contrapoints did a funny video that answers some gender critical questions, if you can stand her.

>> No.10156531

>>10156439
Just because you hate politics doesn't mean every lolita should avoid the subject forever and not talk about it where you might be able to hear/see. It makes sense for people into alt fashion to be more politically aware than normies.

>> No.10156538

>>10156531
Not an attack, honest question, why does it make more sense for alt fashion people to be more politically active?

>> No.10156544

>>10156538
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_subculture

its historically common. this is the difference between people who are actually in a lifestyle and people who just have a casual interest in a fashion.

>> No.10156551

>>10155954
>confirmed for never speaking to a black woman before

>> No.10156555

>>10156544
Even lolita fashion was a cultural/political reaction to Japanese conformism.

>> No.10156560

>>10156538
Tbh this is just based on my experience but people into alt fashion and "weird" music are more opinionated about everything, and normies only think about politics when it's time to vote and usually only know 1-3 politicians by name max.

>> No.10156575

>>10156555
It's so funny to me that in the case of lolita, the music died but the fashion lived on. Usually it's the other way around.

>> No.10156593

Piggybacking off the current topic, what do you guys think contributes to lolita's staying power? Why does lolita continue to thrive while other fashions have died/are dying?

>> No.10156601

>>10156593
Lol did you forget this is the comm thread?

>> No.10156604

>>10156593
Very iconic, doesn't really look like anything else currently in fashion or really ever, catches the imagination, collection aspect catches the autists, community aspect catches the quirky socialisers, expensive yet achievable, aspirational yet wearable. Takes effort and time to git gud, but still formulaic enough that with a bit of research anyone can get it. It's got everything that gives a subculture staying power.

>> No.10156633 [DELETED] 

>>10156560
Do you mean this video? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1pTPuoGjQsI

I hate to say it but trying to understand gendertrenders has actually helped me get along better with some people in my comm. If you think about it we shouldn't even be surprised there are a lot of gendertrenders in lolita considering Mana exists and lolita fashion has (loose) relation to visual kei. Visual kei guys obviously see themselves as men but they play with gender expression as much if not more as any ~genderfluid~ person. That being said, I still low-key hate gendertrenders, but at the same time I'm less annoyed when lolitas bring up gender at meets.

>> No.10156641

>>10156513
Do you mean this video? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1pTPuoGjQsI

I hate to say it but trying to understand gendertrenders has actually helped me get along better with some people in my comm. If you think about it we shouldn't even be surprised there are a lot of gendertrenders in lolita considering Mana exists and lolita fashion has (loose) relation to visual kei. Visual kei guys obviously see themselves as men but they play with gender expression as much if not more as any ~genderfluid~ person. That being said, I still low-key hate gendertrenders, but at the same time I'm less annoyed when lolitas bring up gender at meets.

>> No.10156844

How's the SF comm? I'm living in SF temporarily for the next 2-3 years but I don't mind being a lonelita if the comm is shit

>> No.10156947

>>10156593
>>10156604

Don't forget, steady supply from brands that are just obscure enough to flex with and plentiful enough to easily obtain. Leaves you plenty of space for self-expression, whether you're into supporting weird indie artists, crafting your own DIY stuff, putting together weird quirky aliexpress "finds", doing a fully themed outfit, or you can steer clear of it entirely and go cookie cutter fullset.

But mostly I think it has a name that's easily searchable, pops up in anime/other references a lot so that drives a steady flow of newbies in, and with the name it's easy to find other groups of people doing it. Even if you're a newbie living in the middle of nowhere it's fairly easy to find an online comm of other people who all "get" what lolita is and can help you/participate along with you.

I think that's why lolita has a hard time changing its name, if we all became Alice kei/quaintrelles/frillybutt-evers we'd just go the same way as more obscure fashion like otomekei or morigirl, become more obscure and harder to find and maybe die out like Alice Deco did.

>> No.10156949

>>10156641
I just wish they’d stop being so pushy about it. I don’t care if someone personally identifies as nonbinary or genderfluid or whatever because they don’t want to be feminine 24/7, that’s their business and doesn’t affect me. I’ll use whatever pronouns they want as long as they actually exist in the English language. But now some of them are trying to push this idea that sissy fetishists never existed and were invented by terfs to demonize trans people. Our comm has had multiple run-ins with people who were blatant fetishists. They were part of fetish groups on LJ or FB, encouraged men who left sexual comments on pictures of themselves in lolita and would make sexual comments to girls in the comm. Some of them were more sneaky and would create a “clean” profile to interact with our comm but would still harass girls over PM, try to invite themselves over to their house for “makeovers”, etc. The girls targeted were often minors or otherwise vulnerable.

Apparently being on guard against people like this is transphobic now, and we should let older men freely perv on young girls in our community just in case there are genuine genderfeels underlying their creepy behavior. Fuck that.

>> No.10157089

>>10156439
You sound salty.

>> No.10157129

>>10156191
You go to the DMV in Lolita? Weird flex but OK.

>> No.10157143 [DELETED] 

>>10156439
Are you one of those bitches who didn't vote but still whines about Trump?

>> No.10157159

>>10156462
Tbh I don't mind people being all hung ho about the politicians they support but it's the fact that you pretty much can't have any differing opinions about that stuff that bugs me. I'm a libertarian too and it would probably cause a shit show if I were to ask in the comm if people wanted to come with me to some libertarian political rally.

>> No.10157174 [DELETED] 

>>10157143
>Are you one of those bitches who didn't vote but still whines about Trump?

I voted for Hillary in 2016. The Bernielitas in my Comm supported him in 2016, but never voted in the general because their person didn't get in and felt cheated when Hillary got the nomination. Well Trump won and the first thing they did was protest Trump because they were mad he won.

>> No.10157175 [DELETED] 

>>10157174
I hear this a lot from Americans but the facts don't support the claims. I'm thinking Clinton stans are just looking to blame anyone besides Clinton. Sage for OT.

>> No.10157314

>>10157159
>hung ho
Maybe it would cause a shit show because everyone but libertarians thinks libertarians are retarded

>> No.10157319

>>10157129
Not the anon you're replying to, but some of us are daily lolitas and do go about our lives in the clothes, which includes grocery shopping, going to the post office, sitting at a cafe working, and GASP going to the DMV.

>> No.10157359

>>10156278
the BART is in the bay area and notorious for its amount of schizophrenic homeless people. all you have to do is walk downtown to see some schizo losing their mind. get out of the house more often before you embarrass yourself.

>> No.10157409

>>10157129
That's what you gathered from that chain if replies? You've never been to a DMV or know anything about the black community in Oakland- do you.

>> No.10157436

>>10157359
can confirm, some homeless guy spat on my shoes completely unprompted once

>> No.10157440

>>10157436
Such things happen when you're not wearing lolita too. You guys are going off-topic

>> No.10157536 [DELETED] 

What is your comm doing for ILD? Some of my comm will be at Traumerei but there will be a picnic. Last year's was great so this one should be too

>> No.10157541

When does your comm start planning for ILD? Do you put more effort into summer or winter?

>> No.10157557

>>10157409
I mean, to be fair, everyone is in a bad mood at the DMV. I'm getting mad just thinking the WORD DMV. I feel like basing your experience with people at the DMV as a representative of their entire race is pretty stupid.

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>>10156278
Maybe you're just sheltered anon.

>came into work to pick up some things
>coworker lifts my skirt "to see what makes it poofy" keep in mind this is an 80 year old woman who really should know what a petticoat is jfc.

>different time, walking to the central station of my city
>man grabs me by the arm, pulling me to a stop (we were walking in opposite directions) just to stare?? He grabbed me quite hard and it kind of hurt.

They are probably the worst but everyone also gets the """"smartass"""""
>wheres your sheep?
>halloween is in october
>hi alice
>why are you dressed like this
>losers honking at you or saying shit from their car
typical bullshit.

>> No.10157599

>>10157541
my comm has already started planning! a fancy brunch i think is what we're going with! summer > winter bc its really cold here and there's christmas to deal with around the same time

>> No.10157630

>>10157541
My comm doesn't do much for ILD. I know we planned for the one later in the year in June because it was the first "big ILD" event we had ( rented a theatre to watch kamikaze girls ) but EEEHH

>> No.10157644

>>10157571
i honestly hate the smartasses more than anyone. theyre so overtly demeaning and cant even be excused by mental illness

>> No.10157674

>>10157557
Holy shit. It's not my fault a lot of DMVs have hired ghetto black ladies.
Same thing goes for dispatchers by the way. I used to be one and worked with a ton of fat sassy black women. The stereotype exists because there is a bit of truth in it.

And yes. There are fat ghetto ass black women who will bob their head from side to side and demand to know why you're wearing lolita.

>> No.10157682

>>10156278

I'm >>10155904. Most of the time, I tell of my good experiences here, but this one was particularly bad and I felt shaken because I shouted back to shut up (stupid mistake) and we had a bit of a verbal altercation before they left. Sorry you don't believe me anon, I envy you in a way.

>> No.10157692

>>10157440
I'm going to say this: wearing outlandish clothing and looking different from everyone around you makes you an easy target for people with something to say (or something wrong with them). I find lolita can intimidate and sometimes bewilder normies, and mental illness exacerbates already bad behavior. When I wear normie clothes and blend in to everyone else dressed plainly, I am less likely to be approached than the days I wear, by normie standards "costumey" or strange clothes. All communities are different and there is no surefire "X will always happen to you if you wear lolita", but looking weird, for whatever reason, makes people think social niceties no longer apply. In their minds, surely because you dress this way, you probably want attention, you're a sex worker into some freaky shit (yes, I've been screamed at like that myself), or you're mentally ill (see: grown men who approach lolitas asking if they think they're trying to be little bo peep).

>> No.10157710

>>10157674
You seem trashy.

>> No.10157714

>>10157674
this honestly sounds like a you problem. I spend a lot of time around black people especially black women and live in a primarily non-white part of town and never had an issue with someone like that. anyone who says "stereotypes exist for a reason" is statistically right, but I automatically discount everything out of their mouth because the only people I've ever met who felt a need to assert that were in the middle of saying some pretty gross shit about another race and trying to excuse it like they aren't racist

>> No.10157718 [DELETED] 

>>10157714
>>10157710
Spot the jigaboos

>> No.10157728

>>10157718
Hey, at least I’m not a mediocre white person into a costume fashion trying to validate my “supremacy” on a Chinese cartoon board. Are you an American?

>> No.10157730 [DELETED] 

>>10157728
Settle down you uppity porchmonkey.

>> No.10157856 [DELETED] 

>>10157314
Yeah and everyone who isn't a democrat thinks democrats are retarded and everyone who isn't a republican thinks republicans are retarded. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Nobody can just chill the fuck out and not throw a fit about everyone's different political leanings.

>> No.10157861

>>10157714
>I spend a lot of time around black people especially black women and live in a primarily non-white part of town and never had an issue with someone like that.
Where did I say I had an issue?
I didn't. You're assuming a lot about me with that statement. I'm stating facts that I observed.

>> No.10157923

Can we get back on topic?

>> No.10157925

>>10157923
No

>> No.10158523

>>10157923
We are on topic.

>> No.10161060

>>10157728
>costume fashion
Hmm.. are you actually into it

>> No.10161215

>>10155129

I think you should attend at least 3-4 meets before trying to host one, so people will actually know who you are.

>> No.10161220

>>10155596

I have used VTA Lightrail, BART, and MUNI while wearing lolita, and have never had a single problem. The worst you'll experience on any given day is the bullshitters with the "no job plz give money" signs (more on BART than on the other systems), and they move on to the next train car if you ignore them.

>> No.10161244

>>10141889
God, I wish men would stop invading lolita. You don't look good in dresses and scraggly long hair doesn't make you magically feminine

>> No.10161250

>>10161244
also wish people would get that it's not rocket science to understand. Yes, we dress like that, and we do so because it's fun. No other reason. Now fuck off and let me drink my coffee in peace

>> No.10161444

ILD is a month away! What's everyone's comms planning?

>> No.10161459

>>10157728
Rper detected

>>10161444
Something supremely amazing

>> No.10161615

>>10161215
I would even argue at least go to 2-3, so you can meet some folks and a few people have an idea of who you are especially the ones who come to meets regularly. As someone who has been in my comm for a few years now I think anyone can host a meet but I’ll be more likely to come if it’s a meet where I’m familiar with the host. If I don’t know the host well it’d be better to have something more casual maybe, like just getting together at a museum or something, as opposed to a meet where I need to pay the host or where there will be a lot of plannning involved. In the case of the latter I think I’m nervous about like, an unknown host running off with my money (unlikely) or not spending my money properly (somewhat likelier than the first scenario) and/or hosting a really bad event because they’re unable to like make reservations properly or get nice decor/food/etc. The former meet is easy and there’s not much pressure on the host; if they’re new, all they’re doing is telling us to meet each other somewhere, we’re all responsible for buying our own tickets, we just show up and do what we’re there to do, and it’s a decent way to be introduced to the host and chat a bit.

>> No.10161624

>>10161444
My city has three local comms and it's kind of nice to have a choice between a huge OTT meet and something smaller. I chose the more OTT one but I just wish our venue was nicer looking.

>> No.10161645

>>10161444
My comm is hosting a twinning ild meet and the venue can only accommodate a super small amt of people for a huge comm :/ also I'd have nobody to twin with anyhow lol

>> No.10161688

>>10161624
What city?

>> No.10161778

>>10161688
San Francisco. 30 person caps seems kinda low for a comm the encompasses the whole bay area. I would've planned my own but I'm relatively new and didn't want to encroach on what was already planned.

>> No.10161832

>>10161444
>oc
One of the comms in my area thought that having an ILD at a fast food dinner in a sketchy city was a good idea and want to charge up the ass for it

>> No.10161833

>>10161832
diner* sorry

>> No.10161850

>>10161832
Lol you think City of Industry is sketchy? It is a famous diner btw.

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>>10161850
>"It is a famous diner btw."

>> No.10161942

>>10161885
how much were they trying to charge?

>> No.10161948

>>10161885
Looks like absolute shit

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>>10161942
$60

>> No.10161952

>>10161942
60$ for a burger bar, a milkshake and fries. If you buy that in the diner it’s about 18$.

>> No.10161957

>>10161949
>>10161952
what the fuck lol

>> No.10161958

>>10161850
anon.....just because the restaurant calls itself "world famous" doesn't mean it is actually world famous. kek this is literally what Buddy in Elf does

>> No.10161971

anyone know what the st.louis comm is like?? i moved here a few months ago and i was thinking of checking it out

>> No.10161972

When you live in New Jersey and diners are literally the most standard fucking thing.

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>>10161958
>B-but anon it says so it right on the diner!

Check and mate.

>> No.10162049

>>10161949
looks like a place for lonely old men to look at busted young women, like sports clips or hooters

>> No.10162165

>>10161991
it says it on the website you fucking retard

>> No.10162166

>>10162165
i cant tell if this is bait or if you think "world famous" is actually some sort of legitimate thing

>> No.10162171

>>10161244
As long as you look great in Lolita, sissy will take after you.

>> No.10162177

>>10161850
"World Famous" lol are you always so simple?

>> No.10162178

>>10161952
Well now I'm really glad I'm not going. I had already decided to not go because I've stayed in City of Industry before for LA comm's ILD and fucking NEVER AGAIN.

>> No.10162321

>>10161885
Yuck. Just host ILD at one of those strip clubs with food, at least then you would be only ironically cringy

>> No.10162325

>>10161949
why is there two of the centre chick
like are they twins or did they just copy paste her

>> No.10162330

>>10162325
They look completely different, anon...
The only thing they have in common is they're both brow and women.

>> No.10162364

>>10161850
It’s literally called Industry so yes, it’s a fucking industrial center and I’m not paying $60 when I can just go to in n out for a burger

>> No.10162597

>>10156844
The comm is good overall, it's a huge group so of course there is a lot of variety, but you will probably meet someone you like out of all those people. A lot of the major shit stirrers have left over the years as well.

>> No.10162613

>>10162597
how hard is it to break in? is it very cliquey and overwhelming numbers or does everyone seem to know each other?

>> No.10162680

>>10162613
Like the other anon said, just come to some meets and find people you like. I wouldn't say it's hard to "break in", because there are multiple meets every month that are open to the entire comm. Some types of meets attract lots of n00bs and itas, some meets attract more experienced members. Give the comm a try. If you like it, you like it. If you don't, you don't.

>> No.10162956

>>10162178
What happened at that event?

>> No.10162978

This one black chick in my local comm keep hating on white people and crying racism at everything (black celebrity/black girl called ita? racism! wypipo want her to dress like a white girl even though it's a japanese fashion,blablabla) and I am this close from decking her in the face.
She keeps making fun of white girls and,while I can make fun about my own race and myself, she won't allow anything about her own race or she will screech that you're a racist oppressor on Facebook but then talk about how white people have "dog ass smellin hair","no ass no top lip","age like bananas",and how black girls do it better,...
Anyone knows what the fuck is wrong with her? Is she jealous or just a lost cause of SJWism?

>> No.10163017

>>10162978
Jealousy. I’m a black guy who wears ouji and I’ve met many black girls who wear lolita. Most are very nice but many are very bigoted and mean and also racist.

For a lot of us black people, anything alternative was seen as “for white people”/“white people shit” by our own families and communities. So you couldn’t participate without being laughed at and be seen as a race traitor. That included jfashion and anime. Now it’s been normified a tad, but that means a lot of black people got into these things (openly) late, assuming you’re in your early to mid twenties.

So a lot of the white girls may have more polished coords. They might be more aware of the community and important things like color matching and not wearing clashing prints. More likely to know what brand suits their style and, most importantly, their shape.

Also a lot of black people are racist. I think a lot of us grew up being jealous of white people because we saw them as better. Now, instead of just being comfortable in our own skin, it’s seen as socially acceptable in some circles to slam dunk on white people.

If you can privately talk to someone who isn’t brain dead, you should, because this is bullying. This girl sounds like a nightmare and needs to be kicked out. Alternatively find another black girl who isn’t dumb as fuck and have her call out the offensive person.

Tl;dr she is probably jealous and insecure because she doesn’t look as good

>> No.10163025

>>10163017
That was an interesting insight anon, thanks for sharing. I never thought of it as such as a white person, I hope everyone can find their place in the subcultures they like without experiencing prejudice or racism, everyone should have the right to have their fun!

>> No.10163149

>>10162978
Damn I know exactly who you're talking about and was actually the target of one of those comments you mentioned. That princess needs to calm tf down

>> No.10163151

After being a lonelita for many years I have finally managed to start a community in my hometown. I've really been enjoying attending meets but I'm a busy college student so a four hour commute to a meet is a little too much rn. Now that we have a local comm maybe I'll get to enjoy more meets. We've got our first meet next week at a small garden shop and cafe on the outskirts of town. It's going to be very small, but I hope we'll be able to grow!

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>>10161244

>> No.10163159

>>10163157
How is that b8? It’s the general consensus of /cgl/.

>> No.10163171

>>10162680
>multiple meets every month

Anon don't lie, meets are few and far between

>> No.10163174

>>10163159
It's the general consensus of anybody who lives in reality.

>> No.10163685

>>10162978
>>10163017
Ignore people like that honestly, tell a mod and move on. SJWs love getting ass pats for being "woke" and screeching about whites. It's nothing to do with jealousy because most black girls who wear lolita and take the fashion seriously don't care.

>> No.10163703

>>10163151
i hope you have a lovely time!!

>> No.10163809

>>10156462
>>10157159
Another libertarian lolita here. Everyone assumes I'm a progressive because of my job and where I live and I hate having to constantly bite my tongue. Wish we could all be irl friends.

>> No.10163863

>>10163159
>>10163174
>t. /pol/

>> No.10163878
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10163878

Been a lonelolita for awhile. Finally found a comm. They're having a swap meet in a few months. I have things to sell/trade but I have no idea what the conduct of a swap meet entails. Do I pre-price things? or are they for trading only?

>> No.10163888

>>10163863
In what bizarro universe is /pol/ male-exclusionary?

>>10163878
Swap meets are really more like bring-and-buys than for trading, though people also do trades sometimes. Pre-pricing is a good idea. For more details I’d ask the organiser.

>> No.10163889

>>10163878
Pre-price stuff is always good. Personally I try to have a note on the garment with measurements, price, known defects, my name and if it's up for trade or only sale. I've found that if you don't price stuff, people might be to shy to ask for a price and the item doesn't get sold. To put your name on it is important as well, if you accidentally leave it behind, or just for people to know that it's your item and walk up to you if they want to buy it! Some people in my comm walk around with super cute name-tags during swap meets and I really hope to make my own before next swap-meetup

You can trade items, but it's as common to just buy stuff from each other and you are able to say no if you don't feel like the trading offer is fair or not an item that you would use. But trading is always more fun so I recommend to ask if you find something that you like.

Have fun!

>> No.10163899

>>10163889
Oh yeah putting your name on things is important! It can get pretty confusing otherwise.
I’ve always found swap meets a fun way to meet new people, because it’s totally acceptable to go around asking people who/where [name] is, and in my experience people tend to remember you if you’ve sold to or bought from them. In my comm people tend to mingle instead of staying with their items so everyone’s constantly moving around, talking and directing each other towards sellers or (potential) buyers. I always end up talking to people I’ve never really talked to before.

>> No.10163944

Does anyone have any pro tips about what to do when they’re not a fan of their comm but it’s the only one in the city? My comm is mainly 18 year olds that argue about every little thing, do nothing but take pictures and are still in school, and I feel like I can’t really relate to them.

I just want some good food and a good time (and a meet where I can drink and not here about their aversion to alcohol), but I don’t know what to do because they all come to every single meet.

>> No.10163983

>>10163944
same situation, make online lolita friends that you enjoy and wear lolita out with your other friends or other occasions. i still go to meets sometimes but only if they're bigger events these days. maybe there's another comm a little farther away you can occasionally go to when you need that people interaction

>> No.10163987

>>10163944
My comm has done 21+ meets at unique/fancy bars, is that something you could do in yours?

>> No.10163990

>>10163899
>>10163889
do people pay with cash? Venmo? Paypal?

>> No.10163998

>>10163944
Can you see if there are older/more mature lolitas in the comm who don't come to meetups as often? My comm has a good mix of ages but people of certain ages are more active and come to more meetups than others, so when I first joined and didn't know anyone I often ended up being surrounded by teenagers all day. They're nice but yeah, it can be hard to relate when you're older. Eventually I did get to know other lolitas in their mid-late 20's and now we seek each other out at bigger meetups or organize smaller, private get-togethers instead. If your comm has a lot of annoying teenagers with too much free time and pocket money it's possible that the older lolitas are meeting up privately to get away from them.

>> No.10164003

>>10163990
In my comm we mostly use cash, bank transfers and regional money transfer apps. Something with instant verification that many people in your country or state use is best. If you're unsure you could probably ask on the event page what other people in your comm prefer to use.

>> No.10164019

>>10163944
High wine

>> No.10164205

>>10162178
I don’t think they’ve ever held any ILD near City of Industry, so your memory may be faulty.

>> No.10164365

>>10162956
There was only one tray of cannoli.

>> No.10164739

Just found a long whiney post in my comm page from someone claiming they were bullied and banned from multiple EGL groups simply because they were talking about how they were mentally ill and trans. The idiot never stopped to think that maybe treating online communities dedicated to clothing like therapists was inappropriate? I don't know how I continue to be astounded by these people, I really need to figure it how to accept that most people let their victim complexes trump their self awareness.

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>>10164365
ffs anon you got a chuckle out of me

>> No.10164767

>>10164739
Please tell me they also got banned from your comm as well

>> No.10164795

>>10164767
Nah, I don't have that power and our comm would never. It's just frustrating knowing we couldn't point out the obvious without this person losing their mind and labeling our comm as transphobic. Even though there are lots of trans and mentally ill people in it lol. I think everyone else felt the same, only a few replied and they were all generic 'be unapologetically yourself, do you!' Kind of things.

>> No.10164803

>>10164739
>I really need to figure it how to accept that most people let their victim complexes trump their self awareness
>talking about how they were mentally ill
you answered your own question there

>> No.10164810

>>10164803
I'm mentally I'll myself, and have several friends in the comm who are as well. None of us post about it all over rufflechat. It's an explanation, but does not excuse the behavior.

>> No.10164812

>>10164810
well that also explains why "most people" around you act that way.

>> No.10164815

>>10164739
Oof yeah I wrote one of those generic replies. Nobody wanted to deal with the ensuing meltdown if we tried to say that many groups will ban you if you repeatedly write off-topic posts... They said something along the lines of how they were thinking about quitting Lolita before they even really started, so I suspect they don't actually wear the fashion, and were just blog posting in Lolita groups about their personal problems

>> No.10164817

>>10164815
dont give a generic reply and encourage them. just ignore them instead. if they don't get the attention they want they'll seek it elsewhere.

>> No.10164823

>>10164812
Nah, I Intentionally surround myself with the people within the comm that know how to behave themselves in public fourms. But that doesn't mean there isn't a good amount of the hundreds of our members that act like that. There isn't much I can do to avoid running into them at meets or seeing what they post in the comm.

>> No.10164832

>>10164815
Exactly, I don't blame you one bit. I typed out the he the gentlest reply I could muster, but never hit send because I still felt it'd be a lost cause.

>> No.10164846

>>10164739
>>10164815
What is it that attracts people like this to lolita communities? I know exactly what kind of post you’re talking about because my comm gets them too, but I never see this stuff in other fashion or hobby communities I’m a part of. Why do people think an alternative fashion community would want to be their personal cheerleaders when we don’t even know them and half the time they barely even wear lolita? We’re not their friends or their therapists just because we wear clothes that they think are cute. There’s something kind of narcissistic about assuming that a community full of complete strangers should be willing to play sympathetic audience to your personal problems.

>> No.10164850

>>10164739
>trans
>mentally ill
same thing, nobody banned them for being trans they probably were using the comms as a personnal blog.
we aren't your therapists

>> No.10164853

My comm is doing a dinner party this month and then an ILD picnic, I can’t wait to attend. Although, the dinner meet is a bit expensive. Is anyone else’s comms doing something nice this month?

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>>10164365

>> No.10165210

>>10164846
It happens in all nerd communities, especially ones with women where they think women will encourage expressing feelings. See: the Five Geek Social Fallacies

http://www.plausiblydeniable.com/opinion/gsf.html

>> No.10165332

I am annoyed with my local comm. It's now a month out before ILD and we finally get something on that day, but it's a very small event, like max 8 people. I know I could reach out and try to host another event, but this would have been my first time meeting and getting to know people. I just hope someone else does, I'll be pretty disappointed if I cant spend the day with people who equally enjoy the clothing.

>> No.10165348

>>10164846
>I never see this stuff in other fashion or hobby communities I’m a part of
I see it everywhere lol. Not specifically trans people, but just people using the Facebook group or WhatsApp group as their personal blog.

>> No.10165349

>>10164795
>labeling our comm as transphobic
I always see people on cgl acting very afraid of this, but I've never actually heard of a comm that's known for being transphobic. Which comms have been labelled as transphobic so far?

>> No.10165375

>>10165349
This, the more I see people worrying about their comms being labelled as transphobic the more sure I get that it's just concern trolling. My comm has rejected several sissies from our group in the last few years and no one has ever complained about transphobia. We have a couple of trans members but they dress well and don't behave any differently to anyone else. I'm really starting to think all this pearl clutching is bait. Or maybe I'm biased because my comm only has adults idk

>> No.10165401

>>10165349
>>10165375
I just assume every post about transgenders is bait. Even if there are a couple of comms that are known to be transphobic, it doesn't justify this many posts about it (it gets brought up in nearly every thread) without naming the comms.

>> No.10165454

>>10165349
The Dutch comm is very TERF-y.

>> No.10165465

>>10165454
Really? The two Dutch girls I follow love Rupaul's drag race, but I also heard one of the mods dressed up like a nazi or something.

>> No.10165475

>>10165465
Rupaul is transphobic himself and the mods have banned every trans woman who tried to join.

>> No.10165478

>>10164205
No, that was just where I had stayed before for one of theirs since it was close to where the venue was at. I'm not local and I hate LA traffic. City of Industry was a dump.

>> No.10165506

my local large city comm feels dead... the one thread with activity is members talking about how they are getting jaded with egl.

>> No.10165508

>>10165475
Those were probably sissies who didn't know how to dress themselves desu. Plenty of comms have actual trans women and they look and act differently from creeps. The safety of the comm is more important than offending a few sissies.

>> No.10165587

>>10165475
lol, rupaul said one thing about trans people not being "drag", and then redacted it. that's not even close to being transphobic. I'm surprised your mods just outright ban trans women, that's pretty surprising

>> No.10165652

>>10165332
Then make something? Why do people think it's always someone else's job to plan a meet.

>> No.10165723

>>10165587
ot but RuPaul has said some pretty wild shit about trans people plenty of times over the years but he's an Old Gay™ and they're known for being surprisingly closed-minded about current generation LGBT+ issues so it's not really something I hold against him personally. Product of a generation is all.

what wild to me is that >>10165465 thinks following drag race means they can't be transphobic or that wearing die walkure means you hate people

>> No.10165905

>>10165652
I explained why I dont feel comfortable doing that. Maybe if you had some actual advice this response would have had a point.

>> No.10165915

>>10165723
Transsexuals exist in his generation too. Like I understand he'd be weirded out by non-binary or aromatic kind of labels, but trans has been around for a long while lol. Wearing D.Walkure is not the same as dressing up as a nazi btw.

>> No.10165917

>>10165465
Which mod is that? They sound based.

>> No.10165921

>>10165915
I dont know that I'd ever wear the olive colorway in public though.

>> No.10165962

>>10165465
I have never heard about any of our mods dressing as a nazi. There is one girl who wears D. Walkure but she is one of those people that loves starting drama to "piss of the SJWs".

>> No.10165964

>>10165454
I don't think the comm is TERF-y. I don't think even 10% of the comm members know what that means and the ones that do are the ones that will hate TERFS.

We do have a few bad experiences with creepy men faking being trans in order to hide they are sissies and with trans women being off their meds and acting crazy. They love spreading that we are transphobic even though we disliked them for their creepy bullshit.

>> No.10166074

>>10165915
>Wearing D.Walkure is not the same as dressing up as a nazi btw.
Obviously, that was my point. The post I replied to said she dressed as a nazi, but she actually just wore Die Walkure as a person in the Dutch comm said here >>10165962

>> No.10166087 [DELETED] 

>>10166074
She definitely bought D.Walkure because of her political opinions. She fits right in with those that browse /pol/. She likes that its controversial because it "triggers the snowflakes".

But the idea that she either a mod or popular is wrong in the Dutch comm is wrong.

>> No.10166117

>>10142063
My guess? He put on a dress shirt (or one of those renfaire ones, can't tell from the sleeve cuffs), then put on a puffy sleeved blouse - the fluttery kind - and then put a waistcoat over it to try and make it look like it was made that way. That or the JSK is really an OP? And he shoved all that other stuff in there to try and make it work.

>> No.10166145

>>10165905
Sounds like you deserve to be alone.

>> No.10166146

>>10166145
It's pretty logical for a newbie to not want to host a meet up.

>> No.10166152

>>10166145
Nobody attends meets organised by someone unknown

>> No.10166157

>>10166146
>>10166152
A newbie may not want to, but they can't bitch when no one does it for them. I hosted my first meet because I entered a pretty dead comm. People came. As someone who regularly schedules meets, I can't stand people who act like it's always someone else's job.

>> No.10166160

>>10166152
I have and they've generally been fine. Like, they tend to not go above and beyond, but they've usually been decent

>> No.10166167

>>10166157
Your situation does not apply to most comms

>> No.10166168

>>10166157
All I said was I was annoyed that the ILD meet was small and I hope someone can organize another meet. I mean it's one of the biggest lolita days of the year. I wouldn't care if it was any other day. That's also why I'm hesitant on hosting a meet that day when I've never even been to a meet before.

>> No.10166170

>>10166167
NYART but It might apply to more comms than you think. My comm was dead before my previously unknown friends started hosting a lot of meets last year

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So, why don't you in particular host meets? Personally, I don't because I know that I'm too irresponsible to make a nice experience for my comm members.

>> No.10166181

Why do we have comm mods if they aren't going to organize a more inclusive meet on ILD?

>> No.10166183

>>10166181
What exactly do you mean by inclusive?

>> No.10166185

I'm a lonelita, recently moved to an area with a comm. Are 21+ bar or brewery meets a thing? I just really don't want to have to befriend a bunch of weeb teens.

>> No.10166186

>>10166181
its so they can wear the dresses that they bought far in advance and choose the venue on what fits their own personal theme instead of picking an umbrella theme that any style of lolita could adhere to. basically they don't give a fuck about the community at all lol

>> No.10166187

>>10166185
They are absolutely a thing and for that exact reason.

>> No.10166188

>>10166181
My comm does. Sorry yours is shit

>> No.10166190

>>10166185
My comm these all the time but we're in Europe so they're 18+. Also kids can whine as much as they like but you're the fucking adults, hold your brewery meet if you like who cares what they think.

>> No.10166191

>>10166160
And you organised it on the same day as someone more well known in the comm?

>> No.10166192

>>10166191
Sorry, I meant I've attended meets organised by less well-known people. But no wtf, that just sounds like a dick move

>> No.10166197

>>10166183
More than 8 people max. One of the mods already said she's going so I guess I'm SOL. I think I will end up spending the day in lolita, either way. I dont really need to go to a meet, I just wanted to finally meet the comm.

>> No.10166199

>>10166190
I'm surprised Bay Area doesn't hold these more often than we do. I'd organize one but I'm shit at hosting meets so oh well, I'll just cross my fingers.

>> No.10166207

>>10166197
That sucks. You'd think a comm would want such a day to be a big celebration

>> No.10166212

>>10166172
I'll host them when I have the energy for it, but so often its like herding cats and a completely thankless endeavor. God help you if its something that you need reservations for or for people to buy tickets, suddenly the only people in the comm seem to be the whining children complaining they have no money or no ride or they wanna bring their non-lolita friend/bf/gf/cockroach

>> No.10166213

>>10166197
Is it because its at a very limited venue? If so why not just make a less limited meet for people who either can't or aren't going to that one, maybe on the day after so you don't get accused of conflicting.

>> No.10166215

>>10166207
Yea but I'm not surprised. Winter ILD meet wasnt even marked as such. It was just that Saturday.

>> No.10166217 [DELETED] 

>>10166157
>I hosted my first meet because I entered a pretty dead comm. People came.
oh yea and how did that go?
If I hosted a meet and the only triumphant thing I had to say about it after the fact was that people actually showed up; I'd feel like a failure because that sounds like someone who has low standards.

Unless someone has experience hosting an event - I think it's logical for them to want someone who is more prepared to do the hosting.

I'm not even new but I don't host events myself because I know it would be a fucking disaster.

>> No.10166220

>>10166213
I have already said I dont feel comfortable hosting a meet as I've never gone to any lolita meet, but thank you for your suggestion! That would be a good plan if I felt up to hold the meet that weekend without causing problems.

>> No.10166227

>>10166220
Ah my bad I must've missed that part. At least you're not in one of those draconian comms I hear about where ONLY mods are allowed to plan meetups. Maybe winter ILD or next summer will be better for you? Here's hoping

>> No.10166321

>>10166217
For being a dead comm, having a few people show up was great. Spent hours together and became friends.

>If I hosted a meet and the only triumphant thing I had to say about it after the fact was that people actually showed up; I'd feel like a failure
What do you think a meet is? It's literally just picking a place and having people show up.

>> No.10166335

>>10166321
>It's literally just picking a place and having people show up.
What?? No we show up and do things at my comms meet ups...

>> No.10166377

>>10166335
Yeah, do things like show up, eat cake, and chat. What do you think "showing up" is?

>> No.10166502

>>10166377
>What do you think "showing up" is?
It's when you arrive. Anything you do after you show up is stuff you do after you show up. I'm sure this was originally implied but it was never actually stated and the original comment sounded like a boring ass tea party where thankfully people showed up. Like the most that happened was people actually went to this meet.

My comm does a lot more than just "eat cake" - also thank God my comm isn't full of slobs who just want to eat cake in lolita and other sugary trash food. We drink tea and we go do things.

>> No.10166515

>>10166502
Someone doth protests too much. I think we can all gather how a fucking meet up works, hunny.

>> No.10166756

>>10166515
You're clearly bitter about your boring ass meets.

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>>10166756

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>>10161832
I was about to buy my ticket but I decided to look at the reviews and the first one that caught my eye mentions someones Jersey ripping on the tables, so I'm out.

>> No.10166840

>>10166227
My last comm was exactly like that and the mod didn’t like me cause she tough I stole her future boyfriend or some shit. Thankfully I’m in a better comm with more mature and welcoming people and anyone here can host a meet up.

>> No.10167035

>>10165332
This sounds like my comm and the person has had the event up for a while asking those wanting to come to pay up so she can book all the those who wanted to come. They paid for those who already coughed up and add a few extra on top with their own money. If we hit the max and more people still want to come they are to pay now so they can book them in.
So if you want to go, then pay up instead of bitching about nothing.

>> No.10167867

So I have a friend and uh.. lately she's been posting alot of lolita related stuff and normally I'd be down to have a friend join the fashion but.. She's really into hentai/anime and doesn't know that I can see what she likes on mobile tumblr and.. Idk, I don't really feel like she's fit to be a lolita... Am I overthinking it? She seems kind of perverted these days and we used to have alot of fun playing acnl and Mario games.. Idk what happened.. Should I say something or just hope she doesn't try to join my comm?

>> No.10167878

>>10167867
You should definitely tell her people can see her likes, tell her right now

>> No.10168465

Do people like ice breaker games at teas? If so, what kinds? I've done Lolita print bingo and a matching game where you find the person with the same picture at their table & introduce yourself. My next tea is a small venue where getting out of our seats may be disruptive to other patrons, though. I'd love ideas please!

>> No.10168571

>>10168465
I hate games at meets. I want to chat and hang out, not play 3rd grader games.

>> No.10168983

>>10168465
I don't mind them they can be conversation starters if you're not good at that sort of thing.

>> No.10169172

>>10168465
I've seen girls make their own lolita version of cards against humanity. I thought it was fun whenever someone brought their version to play.

>> No.10169281

>>10168571
>>10168983
>>10169172
Thanks for your input! I tend to agree games can be a little much, but I still like to try to do minimal ones so the newbies can make a couple introductions and generally leave people alone after that. Lolita cards sounds really fun for sure, maybe I'll give that some thought!

>> No.10169399

>>10168571
Me too. The only time I did this at a meet it was super fucking awkward and I'll never forget that shit.

>> No.10169849

>>10169399
Woah, what was it? Why was it so bad?