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People talk a lot about how they wish lolita had better separate events from anime conventions.

What is your ideal? Would you want events like Rufflecon, actual conventions, or would you prefer tea parties like they do in China and Japan?

We have the problem in the US where travel is a lot harder due to its size so that makes it harder for the one day events.

If you could create a perfect large scale lolita event, what would it be?

>> No.10125752

The best event I've been to so far was Omnia Vanitas. So sad what happened to SFE. I wish I could do something, organise my own events, but you need an entire team for that and Idk anyone capable. The other European events (in Germany, Finland and Italy off the top of my head) are getting bigger every year so at least that's promising.

>> No.10125765

On the other hand, I found OV to have been completely boring. My fav was probably TPC Regalia. Agreed about SFE, this is what happens when we let retarded people like Karin into our communities

>> No.10125766

Myths of our own was bloody brilliant, I had a fantastic time. The atmosphere was more friendly than any other lolita event I've been to.

>> No.10125771

I feel like Rufflecon had it all. Panels, fashion shows, brands small and large, shopping and a tea party.

Can someone give more info on what Omnia Vanitas and Myths of Our Own was like?

I wish the US had events like Street Fashion Europe. I think we should have one that is in a different state each year. Start with East Or West Coast because there's a lot more concentration there. Also it would probably be a general Jfashion or Alt fashion event to be able to pull more people.

Also I hope that brands start showing in NY or LA fashion week. I feel like this will bring lolita closer to the other fashion world and move it further from the weeb world. And while they're there do a real fucking brand tea party Japan/China style. Ours are truly embarrassing.

>> No.10125772

Could you tell me about the events and what you liked or didn't like? I'm US based so I haven't even heard of these.

>> No.10125774

DESU I would prefer a small meetup with just a few of the prettiest and best dressed girls, maybe with complementary or themed outfits. But I'd feel bad trying to organize an event like that since I'd have to exclude a few of my dear friends whose aesthetics don't match. Large scale events have too many itas (including overdressed idiots).

>> No.10125775

I want so badly to do this but I don't even know how to get started. I feel like I would need to have more people to ever start something that ornate.
Not to mention the fact that it would probably need to be a Kickstarter thing, which is intimidating with how many go off the rails.

>> No.10125777

Don't lolita events pull enough people? RC and SFE events always sold out quickly

>> No.10125778

This x1000. As someone who attended the event from overseas, I was so impressed. I only wish I could have stayed for the afterparty.

>> No.10125781

>meetup with just a few of the prettiest and best dressed girls

Too bad you won't be invited to your own meet.

>> No.10125784

They do but the whole "not enough people" argument is what is always used to justify lolitas at anime cons. So instead of a weeb con I'd much rather attend an alt fashion con.

>> No.10125789

This is something I worry about though. Would people really travel for a Lolita event in the US?

How big was Rufflecon?

>> No.10125790

If you haven't been to any big lolita event before why do you want to organise one? Get some experience first

>> No.10125791

I think it's more likely the other way around. Anime cons have started to cater to other ''geeky'' things instead of just anime because people are less interested in anime now. Understandably so, there isn't as much good anime as even 10 years ago.

People travel for brand events from all over the world

>> No.10125792

I think older working lolitas will just like they travel to cons. The other alt fashions seem a lot more lazy and will probably have just the locals. That's probably why the East Coast is a better start because there's a lot of small states lumped together where it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to travel.

>> No.10125794

Fair. I am most fantasizing and wanted to talk to other people about it.
I want to get to Paradiso next year and get an idea of what the scene is like. Are there really any other ones left?

>> No.10125795

Are there any events organised by lolitas (similar to RC and SFE) in Asia, or do they rely on official brand tea-parties organised by the brands themselves?

>> No.10125798

People from all over the world went to Hellocon for Moitie

>> No.10125818

>so sad what happened to SFE

Did I miss something? What happened?

>> No.10125827

Only about three whole threads worth of drama. Go check an archive if you want to know that bad.

>> No.10125928

I'm traveling for Paradiso.

>> No.10125934

I’m American (east coast) and would rather fly to Europe for an event than anywhere around here, especially the Midwest. I often fly to Europe for work and pleasure anyway. Any events anons would recommend? I can get by in French and German as well as English.

>> No.10125935

I’m local to Paradiso and feel extremely lucky for it.

>> No.10125972

most people traveled to rufflecon from what i noticed. i'm planning on traveling to paradiso next year. i really wish there were more us events though

>> No.10125981

Obviously traveling to Europe is preferable, but not everyone can afford that. This is like saying hamburgers shouldn’t exist because filet mignon tastes better.

>> No.10125983

I never understand when people that drop $500 on a dress say that other, frankly more interesting luxury purchases like travel are too expensive. Anyway, it doesn’t cost much more to go to Europe than to the Midwest or west coast from the east coast.
So which European lolita event is best for a visitor?

>> No.10126011

If you live in the midwest, Europe is at least 1k to visit. Depending which part of the midwest you can fly to the coast for 300. But it also adds up if you are in the middle of nowhere and need connecting flights.

>> No.10126064

>tfw been to Rufflecon
>tfw you've never spent more than $200 on a dress and your wardrobe is mostly brand.

Some people don't drop everything on dresses, anon. Priorities also exist. One time trip or something I can have for life?

>> No.10126099

This was my mindset until I started traveling pretty much nonstop a few years ago. (I work freelance.) Of course, it’s even better than I can visit new places in clothes that I love, but I don’t make it a priority if it’s not practical. I can’t tell you what to do but in my case it was seriously worth it to hold off shopping for a while for the sake of seeing the world.

>> No.10126102

Also, not sure where you’re getting those numbers but unless you need to fly the day you buy your ticket it’s rarely more than $600-700 to go to Paris from Chicago (or like $200 to NYC)

>> No.10126110

What all do you do at these big lolita conventions? I've always been curious.

My comm (san francisco) has had several bigger (75-100 people) events that are like an extra-fancy tea party + vendors, raffle, and other activities. I enjoy going to those kind of events, and some out of town folks do attend so it's a nice chance to meet new people, but I couldn't ever see myself traveling just for the sake of going to a multi-day lolita convention. Even though I'm pretty into lolita and wear it all the time, I can't imagine what would be so entertaining to fill up an entire weekend just about lolita. If the main draw is the shopping, I think I'd rather just go to japan.

>> No.10126187

Just did, what a shame. I'd always hoped to go to their events but they really fucked up. I'm sure Träumerei will be great but I still don't understand why they built so much hype for an event they knew would be small.

>> No.10126305

Obviously it depends where you're from. I'm not from Chicago nor would I fly there. The midwest is huge anon.

>> No.10126307

Yes, flying from the third largest city in America is cheaper.
We are talking like flyover states.

>> No.10127440

Eurofags, what’s the best jfashion event to travel to over there?

>> No.10127518

Probably Hellocon, they've been very consistent with quality and they get great guests.

>> No.10127552

If someone was to create a new big event, honestly these would be the criteria I would use to decide whether to go:
#1 (most important)
The organizer(s) reputation in the community. I'm not traveling far and risking tons of money for an event planned by a noob. I'd better either know you or know of you. Id also ask my mutual friends to vouch for your planning skills. You'd also need to have made at least some large scale meets for your comm before. It's not that I dislike strangers but I don't want to get trapped in some shitshow where I find out the organizer is some sort of Jon Leigh wannabe.
#2 location
Events in the middle of nowhere are cheap to run but not very attractive
#3 attendees
If my friends are going then I'm 1000 times more likely to go too
#4 guests
I don't really care about models or designers

I just want to hang out with people really

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Who in their right mind calls a lolita event "Modern Doll Fest"?
They're going to attract so many weirdos

>> No.10128107

the floating hands in that art are weird, and that is not how bonnets work on someone's head

>> No.10128133

I tried to convince myself OV wasn't so bland, but... I've enjoyed TGE so much. There is other in Italy, will try to go
(still no big events in my country, sad)

>> No.10128138

TGE? What event was that and what was good about it vs Omnia Vanitas?

>> No.10128140

The event looks good though

>> No.10128153

What I want? I want a lolita murder mystery dinner. That is what I want.

It could start around noon, at first have vendors selling stuff, a fashion show maybe. A photoshoot. Have time to chill and meet other lolitas and all. At around 5 pm the dinner could start. Full course of food, have time in between for people to investigate the murder(s) in teams. After like 9 pm the murderer could be revealed and groups who guessed right receive prizes. Then there could be an after party for dancing & drinking for those who like that kind of entertainment.

>> No.10128163

2.5 days long, brand guests, a few high quality vendors like Closetchild and Wunderwelt, brand fashion show, tea party with high quality Chinese teas and very fresh food (sweets, veggies, fruit, finger food that isn't from GFS or Costco), good aesthetic to the location with actual historical or artistic value (no cheap photo corner/ photo set)

>> No.10128166

I'm gonna remote vend at that. The photos they had from last showed a very well put together Lolita community.

>> No.10128176

Just look at the schedules

>> No.10128178

#1 is so dumb. Someone good at being efamous in a niche hobby doesn't necessarily have organising experience. Besides most of the euro girls that organise lolita events, are well-known because they organise events. They were nobodies before then.

>> No.10128179

You will love Traumerei then

Lolitas all over the world have called their style doll inspired and some are into collecting dolls too. Most big lolita brands have done doll related collabs.

>> No.10128183

The best event I've been to is hellocon last year! That was awesome.

I know everyone loved attending rufflecon but behind the scenes it was such a mess and I'm glad it's gone. That was such a predatory event

>> No.10128187

Why would doll attract more weirdos than lolita?

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Y tho?

>> No.10130600

I’d totally go to Finland for this! Is the next one “witches’ follies” in October or is that something else?

>> No.10130606

Because the artist sucks. Event should be good though, RDRR have a good track record

>> No.10130741

I’d love this! Especially for Halloween.

>> No.10131291

Living dolls, BJD people

>> No.10131300

Ayo SF!

I went to Rufflecon a couple years back, I had a great time and would have gone back if it hadn't been for the hotel issues. I liked being able to hang out with lolitas from other states and meeting people I'd spoken to on the internet in real life, I enjoyed a lot of the panels, and of course drinking the whole con. Being able to see some vendors in person was cool, too, because some of the indie brands you don't get to see in person that often. It's more of a socialization thing than going to Japan, which I use to primarily focus on shopping and sight-seeing.

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That's much better than pedophiles, nymphets and sissy's. Living dolls have a bad reputation because they show the weirdest ones in the media and make them look even crazier on purpose, just like they try to do with lolita. They don't show the normal living dolls who just like the doll aesthetic. BJD has always been a common hobby among lolitas, and I would be happy to see BJDs at a lolita event, even though I don't have any dolls myself.

>> No.10131319

"Modern Lolita Fest" would definitely grab the attention of local crazy people more. And also the police.

>> No.10131320

Who is the artist? If only she had put the bow a little bit higher..

>> No.10131328

>normal living dolls
I know Lolita is a far out fashion by normie standards, but wanting to "be a doll" is fucking creepy by all standards.

>> No.10131332

That's my point, they don't "want to be a doll". You just think that because of the plastic surgery monsters they like to show on TV. For most people it's a fashion or hobby, just like lolita.

>> No.10131334 [DELETED] 

Nayrt and I don't know her but this person honestly sounds less strange than the article they did about a lolita
I also know a living doll who just experiences it as an extension of cosplay. Instead of copying a character she can experiment with her own make-up and style. If you think living doll is creepy, what do you think of cosplayers who act in-character, steampunk personas, and these people >>10103897? It's not a normie hobby, but to say they're all creeps is a bit much.

>> No.10131335

Nayrt and I don't know her but this person honestly sounds less strange than the lolita they interviewed
I do know a living doll irl who just experiences it as an extension of cosplay. But istead of copying a character she can experiment with her own make-up and style. If you think living doll is creepy, what do you think of cosplayers who act in-character, steampunk personas, and these people >>10103897? It's not a normie hobby, but to say they're all creeps is a bit much. I didn't expect lolitas to be so judgmental about other unusual hobbies.

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