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Post cute coords, discuss recent releases and stuff
>>10085778Is this a mmm dress? Anyone know which one?
>>10085809holy angel i believe
I'm thinking of getting pic related because it's on sale but it doesn't go with anything in my wardrobe and I'm afraid it's too small to wear a blouse underneath
>>10085809Yes, The skirt and OP are still available
>>10085809>>10085810>>10086084>>10085778Is the bolero also mmm?
>>10087150Looks like IW.
>>10087159This is definitely sweet. Dress is gothic, coording is sweet as all hell. Not trying to start the eternal argument, just think it's interesting because I've never seen Moitié coorded like this.
>>10087305Only her face and shoes are sweet imo
>>10087159I follow this girl on instagram and she is lovely. She said she opened her instagram because she wants to show that you don't have to be super OTT or perfect to wear lolita. She is a daily lolita and a great inspiration for me. I think we need more people like her now that toned down lolita gets less and less attention and people even think it is not okay to post it online.
>>10087313What's her instagram name?
>>10087318Oww I dropped it lol she's recklessrave (:
>>10087313I posted her but I love OTT and it makes me a bit disappointed when people "blame" OTT for the fact they see less casual coords. I admire people who wear OTT for no special occasion, just because they like the dress. We'd see more toned down lolita if more toned down lolitas post.
>>10087359I agree with you and I think Rave would agree too, nobody implied it was OTT's fault. And it wasn't only about OTT but also about looking perfect: perfect makeup, perfect coord, professional looking pictures and such.
>>10087359OTT isn't exactly to blame, the way modern social media works is. It's not so much about posts sorted chronologically anymore but by popularity; popular coords garner more traction and get more attention, and these tend to be OTT coords because they catch the eye more, while casual/simple coords tend to get buried and ignored.I can only speak for myself here so I will: Posting when my coords get next to no feedback isn't worthwhile. I still wear lolita obviously, I just don't bother taking and posting pics, and it's possible other girls feel the same.
>>10087367>Posting when my coords get next to no feedback isn't worthwhile. I still wear lolita obviously, I just don't bother taking and posting pics, and it's possible other girls feel the same.This doesn't even have to be about wanting attention, as many 4chan users make it to be. If you get zero feedback you might think that you are doing something wrong or that others think your coords look bad.
>>10087155Nice replica bag
>>10087367I disagree with you.. There are literally less casual/simple coords on CoF. They are not more or less popular than OTT, there are just less of them.
>>10087447>Posting when my coords get next to no feedback isn't worthwhile. I still wear lolita obviously, I just don't bother taking and posting picsDid you not read this part or?
>>10087449I did, I can't disagree with her personal reasons for not posting but I disagree with the rest of her comment.
Who else preordered Ista Mori Nameless Poem for like April?
>>10085781>>10085784Ahh does anybody knows where I can get platforms like these ;; I've been looking everywhere. I saw one in Demonia but the platform is not that high.Also thanks for the thread this is great inspo!
>>10087531Try looking for Pleaser or Ellie shoes
>>10087531Angelic Imprint on tb has some as high as those
>>10087531I bought mine dirt cheap from a Halloween store a few years back lol They're surprisingly comfortable and not too difficult to walk in. picardiaxx shared her thoughts on instagram about the ones she owns from Meta, Moitie, and Ruby/Secret Wishes too if that helps.
>>10085794>>10085801>>10087119>>10087129>>10087151These have no petti or very minimal poof. Does gothic Lolita not require a petticoat? Wondering because I have worn longer JSKs before without a petti but didn’t post/tag that it was Lolita.
>>10087584Gothic still generally requires a petti, it just uses much less so compared to sweet it looks like there's nothing there. If you take an AP dress and put it next to a Moitie dress, 90% of the time there will be more fabric used for the AP dress. Long dresses it varies a lot, the line between Aristocrat styles and gothic lolita aren't super solid so typically if it's from one of the gothic brands people will post in gothic lolita threads. Goths don't give a fuck since I get the feeling most dabble across the spooky spectrum.
>>10087584It requires a petticoat, but just like all lolita styles, you really only have to wear 1 (plus bloomers)
>>10087584>>10085794 and >>10087129 are not lolita, this is not a strictly lolita thread. The others in your list all wear a petticoat.
>>10087544>>10087559>>10087568Oh my god thank you anons!
>>10087619I used to think this coord was the coolest thing but as time goes on I find it more and more tacky.
>>10087626I love the way that underskirt looks with the dress.
>>10087584EGA exists, anon.
>>10087155so tired of this whiny little bitch and her "girlfriend"
White outfit but it feels Goth to me.>>10088303It's the thing that inspired me to buy the dress DESU.>>10088298Same, but there's something delightfully so about it, isn't there?
>>10087619really sick of md's style of ott gothic
>>10088369Is that wistywish?? This style looks so good on her and she looks way less shopped! Proud of her
>>10088377It’s definitely not her.
>>10088298OTT by nature is hard because so much is going on. It's easier to like something simple and inoffensive because we're programmed by normie clothing to think that's normal. I think OTT has it's place in the fashion and not everything needs to be "everyday".
Are there any good plus size goth lolitas out there?
>>10088534>plus size>goodpick one
>>10088534There are a bunch of plus-size moi dix mois/malice mizer fans who wear moitie but I don't remember where they post their coords
>>10088357OT but this was a dream dress of mine and I recently got ahold of it in black. Every bit as gorgeous in real life.
>>10087313She is really one of the sweetest people I've met through this fashion
>>10088534I like Divinecross. She mostly wears Moitie.
Anyone else hate that gothic lolita releases are longer nowadays? I want skirts and dresses to end right above my knees.
>>10088571>tfw this is the best time ever to be a tallitaIf you order from Antique Beast, they can customize the length for you, shorty-chan
>>10085781sorry for being a goth newb but what's the dress the girl on the left is wearing? it's lovely
>>10088573I'm 164cm, I just hate how long dresses look>>10088574They're all wearing moitie, use lolibrary
>>10088580>164cmHeh I was right. Shorty, too short for braaaaand~Seriously though that sucks. Can you get things altered? At least making things short is easier than making them long. And I hate how long dresses look on me too. Last year for the first time ever I had a dress be too long and it was upsetting. I hope you can find the things that fit you right eventually.
>>10088580Shortening a hem is super easy and you can make it so it can be picked out to return to the original length easily. If you don't know how to sew, you can find a seamstress in your area who does alterations, ask your local cleaner's if you don't know where to look
>>10088586Lolita is not too short for me, things like >>10088571 fit me perfectly, I just hate how it looks >>10088597I do alter things but when I do that I feel like I have to discount 100 dollar when I re-sell
>>10088586Lolita is not too long for me, things like >>10088571 fit me perfectly, as it's obviously not supposed to end above your knees. I just hate how it looks >>10088597I do alter things but when I do that I feel like I have to discount 100usf when I re-sell,even if I reversed it
>>10088571As an Aristo I'm having the time of my life.
>>10087494You absolute fool, there were still leftovers of the first version in stock on clobba, I just got mine today
>>10085784I have this same op, I love how she coorded it!>>10088647Same!
>>10088603How is Sheglit's quality, especially their lace? I've been hesitating buying from them since most of their stuff is made in China.
I finally realised what bothers me about Sheglit. A lot of their styles look like they could be innocent world with a darker colour palette. Like it's just classic in the black colorway, it doesn't feel goth
>>10088929That dress was a bad example this is more what I mean
>>10088931It just looks classic to me
>>10088934This dress is a very classical look
>>10088938This could be VM Beth
>>10088939And are you sure this skirt isn't IW?
>>10088932I just wat all of this outfit. Does anyone recognize that OP or hat?>>10088928I've heard that some MmM pieces only have the print on the front half of the dress. is this one of those? Is Sleeping Garden the same?
>>10088951Want, not wat.Have a saved picture from the capsule wardrobe thread.
>>10088951That only happened a couple times (most notably Holy Stained Glass) after that enough fans complained that Mana made a special announcement that prints would be on both sides in the future. Both Royal Gate and Sleeping Garden are fine. Lolibrary exists though Anon, you should check the stock photos before asking really easy questions like that.
>>10088369Post more sweet hats.
>>10088951That was only a few dresses, they didn’t do that for long. Sleeping garden was an all around print, both original and new. Royal hate has the gate on both sides.
>>10088951>>10088958Tbh I love only having the print on the front. I wish they did more like Ritual.
>>10090814It's okay to post gothic LOLITA here too. Since it's a combination of goth and lolita it doesn't need to be completely goth, it just needs to have a goth element or be inspired by goth.
>>10090816Whatever. At least it's not steampunk crap
>>10090870Ending dump with a Mana for good measure
>>10090814oh look, the gatekeeper is back. no one likes you here.
>>10090940I'm just trying to guess which salty goth bitch it is. Can't be a moitiefag though if they said >>10088940 isn't gothic lolita.
>>10090861Omg I NEED that blouse.
>>10087624>you know i had to do it to 'em
>>10088929This is so beautiful. I hope they re-release it some time because i have a feeling i wouldn't be able to find this second hand.
>>10090860What brand is this?
>>10090951It's probably a crosdboarder since he tagged stock photos too
>>10090987Pretty sure it's very old Boz.
>>10091028Oh, they don't make that kind if stuff these days?
>>10090974Hang in there, I'm sure they will. They seem to re-release a lot of the same designs/cuts, albeit with some changes such as different fabrics.>>10090860Holy fuck, I am in love.
>>10090814$10 says this is a random guy from /fa/ using this thread for fap material
>tfw will never be pale or beautiful enough to be a good gothic lolita
>>10091432I'm brown and ugly and I look great in gothic. You can do it, anon!
>>10091300This should be in some guide about how to wear bodyline and offbrand and not look cheap and ita.
I need some help from the gothic anons of this thread. I'm looking for a specific coord that I saw and didn't save to my inspo folder at the time. It's a girl in plain black with a (white?) crown on. iirc she was blonde. It's a dumb question and a long shot. I'm certain I saw it on instagram in the gothic lolita tag but it was a few weeks ago and my looking is coming up with nothing.
>>10091542What was her dress like, anon? I have a couple of guesses
>>10091507>>10091505/r/ more simple coords like this?
>>10091542I think it was an OP, it seemed quite simple. I'd guess BOZ? Not moitie aesthetic.
>>10091727Was it this one? The OP is IW but it does look very Boz
>>10091561Sure, I'll share some more!
>>10091974who is this?
>>10091980>>10091979Her insta username is Alcci.
Any non-moitie gothic? Or moitie coorded in an unusual, not on-brand way >pls no Fanny Rosie
>>10091808That's it, thanks. I can't find the op on lolibrary, what is it?
>>10092434It's this one with the detachable pieces removed.https://lolibrary.org/items/iw-tea-party-of-the-wonderland-op
>>10091991@mastersukka on IG if you want a western goth take on MmM
>>10092022This feels more punk. I love it
>>10090814Congratulations, retard, you've offered absolutely nothing to the thread other than being both stupid and incorrect>>10091207I bet $20>>10091303>>10091314Holy shit these are perfect
Hot take: There are three basic aesthetic strains of Gothic Lolita. These are linked to three brands, though they don't need to use main pieces from that specific brand. >Moitie style - Based in Mana's personal style. Clean lines, matching cross lace, black white and blue are the main colours. Religious iconography is common. Makeup derives from Western Goth with traditional Japanese influences. Big hair. >AtePi Style - Styling is more like Western Romantic and Victorian Goth. Gathered skirts, black with opulent jewel tones. The closest Gothic style to Classic lolita, set apart by using more black, platform shoes, and heavier makeup. More extravagant and draping.>Boz Style - Borders on Aristocrat, but with shorter skirts. Clean tailoring, often inspired by military uniform or menswear. Religious influences come through sometimes but in the design rather than the motifs of dresses. Mature hairstyling is more common. Jewel, Olive, and brown colours surprisingly common with a strong base of black.Pic related is these three aesthetic strains all on the same person.
>>10092691that last coat is gorgeous!!! Link?
>>10092712>not recognizing a rolando
>>10092715Thanks anon <3
>>10092691>What is Elegant Gothic Lolita? >What is OTT Goth? >What is Pirate Lolita?
>>10092728The first girl is wearing egl
>>10092691But why is it necessary to further subdivide gothic lolita? Not to mention that mixing those three brands is pretty common. Just let gothic be gothic.
>>10092759Nobody is subdividing, anon is just pointing out clear differences in styles of gothic lolita
>>10092759It's still all gothic lolita, but it's interesting to see how different brands have their own styles within the genre. Even though a lot of them do cross over and other brands are part of the mix albeit less so (AATP comes to mind for that last one) Each main brand tends to have their 'core look' and it's interesting to look at how people's coords branch off of those looks. It's no different to acknowledging that within classic there's OTT JetJ style vs the more casual Innocent World style vs refined Mary Magdalene style. Some of them cross over from time to time or include different brands and they're all still classic but those brands are at the core of those particular looks.
>>10092728moitie style is egl you dumb fucking faggotmoitie literally coined egl
>>10092779>not knowing how to interpret greentextThat's literally what the anon you're replying to is saying, newfag.>>10092728I disagree on the middle one being OTT gothic though, there's about as many accessories/details in that coord as there are in the other two.
>>10090940>>10092560>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY WON'T YOU LET ME DRESS IN A FETISH DRESS THAT ISN'T BLACK AND CALL IT GOTH??!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEI bet you're the type of fags that think boys can be girls and vice-versa.
>>10092837Stop acting like a retard. Some of the outfits I can understand not think as them as goth, but I feel like you don't give a shit about fashion because of you did you would actually give your reasons or critics instead of throwing a bitch fit.>>10087159Like this outfit for me feels like a bit to much like classic Lolita for me, but could be gothic with different hair and makeup.>>10088357I personally think Goths can wear white so this outfit is okay with me.>>10088937>>10085778>>10085779Are you honestly so stupid that you believe that goths can only wear black. If there's something else that makes to think these outfits aren't goth, because to me these are goth in both style and makeup.>>10085785I agree with you on this one it doesn't really feel gothic styling other than the cut of the dress.
>>10092861>All white outfit = Goth>Black = Not Goth>TAKE ME SERIOUSLY!!!I see that you're a faggot that's never been on the scene. Stop trying to take fat girl angle shots, put down your phone that can't capture the entirety of your porcine figure even with the aid of the world's longest selfie-stick, and listen here you dog-faced hamplanet: If the predominant color of the outfit isn't black, it isn't goth.
>>10093034Look at this absolute fool.
>>10093034Here we have someone who's trying to look like an old school elitist goth, but is so much of a babybat that he hasn't mentioned the music yet. What's the matter, did you lose your favourite Marilyn Manson album? Mommy didn't bring you the bat-shaped tendies you wanted? Fuck off back to vampire freaks, you have no idea what Gothic Lolita is and little idea of Goth. I bet you've never listened to Bauhaus OR Malice Mizer before.
>>10088567Oh I love this coord. Idk if it’s weird to say this but her curvy legs make really nice silhouette with chunky shoes.
>>10088586>Shorty, too short for braaaaand~hahaha tfw i'm 154.
>>10093120>listening to malice mizeropinion discarded. NO ONE played that shit in the clubs.>only listing Bauhaus, the single band even the most clueless baby bat knows>no apoptygma berserk>no birthday party>no VNV nation>no covenant>no combichrist>no and one>no velvet acid christ>no alien sex fiend>no wumpscut>no the cure>no motherfucking CruxshadowsMotherMcFucking kill yourself, faggot.
>>10093189Why are you sperging out about goth in a gothic lolita thread? GL is inspired by goth to some degree and some gothic lolitas are also goths, but generally speaking they're not the same thing.
>>10093192>title literally reads "Gothic thread">hurr durr why are you sperging out about goth in a gothic thread?
>>10093218This is for gothic in a jfashion context though, not the western subculture, which is, again, not the same thing. >inb4 "no one said anything about japanese fashion durrhurr"Please look at the board you're on again and reconsider your life choices, goth-kun.
>>10090814>>10093034Dude go to /fa/ for Western goth. I know the lack of goth fashion threads is distressing, but you're really in the wrong board. Plus your attitude is needlessly antagonistic.Also iirc the Ghost-Look was popular for goth at one point, so chill, my dude. Broaden your horizons or something. tl;dr you're in the wrong neighborhood, /fa/-kun
>>10093189That was anon's point, you ain't listening to the most basic gothic OR gothic lolita bands. Bet you had to Google that list, poseur
>>10093231>poseurNYART but I'm loosing my shit. I haven't seen anyone actually call someone a poseur in years. I feel a pang of nostalgia.That being said, you're super right. This person needs to chill online with some adult goth people and learn how to settle down.
>>10093234Ye, this one gets it. Honestly, I had to take the chance to live out my teenage nostalgia. Who knows when I'd get to whip out that old insult again?
Why are all of you idiots ruining this thread by replying
>>10093241this is cgl, we always take bait
Sorry for the size. I just really like this one and was unable to find a bigger version.
Ignore bait post goth
>>10093255What is this hat?>>10093257The boz coat doesn't look quite right with the headdress, but over all a cute look.
I'll post a few. Sorry for any repeats.
>>10093301Now for some from Twitter.
>>10093313Put it to good use.
>>10093327I'll end here for now.
>>10093327Those shoes are amazing, anyone knows what the brand is?
>>10093456How to buy from
>>10093550Your going to need a shopping service.
>>10093550>>10093566Atelier Pierrot stocks Na+H anon. If they don't have some check Na+H website and send AtePie a link asking. They also might have it in stock in store as well.
CGL is such a shit show sometimes, i'm so glad we actually managed to come together and post some quality stuff for once, despite the bait.
>>10087494I need some advice, gulls.I really love Nameless Poem and I'm considering buying it as my first dress. The problem is, I once saw a girl wearing it in person and the fabric was truly awful - cheap and synthetic looking, and oddly shiny. I've since heard that there might be a replica of this dress, and I wonder if the one I saw in person might have been the replica.If anyone owns the real dress or has seen it in person, could you please give me your honest opinion of the fabric? I don't trust the photos anymore and I would truly hate for my first dress to be a disappointment.
>>10094408Yes anon, there are actually a lot of replicas of taobao dresses. Just write Gothic Lolita Dress in Aliexpress if you are curious.I have the second release of Nameless Poem (that was like 4 years ago), and in my opinion, the dress and the fabric are gorgeous. Of course it doesn't compare to brand, but at least the construction and the materials are very good! And it also fits me very nicely. I would even say that it's one of the best taobao dresses that I have.The fabric is not shiny at all, and even though it is polyester, it's still nice. It doesn't wrinke too, and it's not stiff.I think that's the best way to spot the replica, if it looks shiny , the skirt is not that gathered, and the fabric is stiff, it must be a replica.Hope this helps a bit!
>>10094408>>10094419Oh and forgot to say, if you really want to buy it I would recommend buying it directly from the original store.
>>10094408Def is a replica of you saw it like that. It’s honestly one of the most put together taobao pieces I own. The dress isn’t shiny at all either. The only issue I have is that some releases were ivory and some were white and that is annoying.
>>10094419>>10094437Oh excellent, thank you!
>you're not a real Moitiefag unless you buy one of theseDiscuss.
>>10095736I can't argue against this point desu,.
>>10095736I'm not rich enough for this, I'll spend my money on dresses both new and old as well as accessories and blouses. But I maintain a cheap, minimalistic lifestyle in everything other than Lolita, so I ain't buying any fancy pillowcases. If that makes me a fake fan, so be it. Maybe someday.
>>10095991It’s only 60$, buying new is much harder to keep up than a pillow case.
>>10095736Sorry I don't support replicas.
>>10096025......can't tell if stupid or joking.
>>10095991It's not even so expensive for a decorative pillow case
>>10093455>>10093550>>10093550They look like a Louboutin design but with extra platform, you might find those more easily secondhand in the west but they're gonna be pricey.
>>10096195It's literally Na+H as discussed above
>>10087313Do you know if she's religious? I was going to follow her but she posted some weird stuff about christ once and it put me off entirely.
>>10092743>The first girlThat is the same girl in all 3 photos
>>10087332She seems sweet but her bgs are so dark and drab they’re unintentionally unsettling. And her wardrobe post added to that aura because she has such an excessive amount of everything, dozens of shoes and blouses — it all has a vaguely catlady hoarder vibe
>>10097347I watch her videos and she's mentioned at some point that her husband is... a pastor? A priest? I don't remember, but he holds some sort of position in the church, which most likely means she's also religious. She mentioned it in passing and it was related to what she was doing in the video and I otherwise haven't seen her really mention it so it's not like she's pushy about her views or anything. No shame in being religious as long as you're not a dick about it.
>>10097347Couldn't you tell that from her styling? But why let that bother you anon if you enjoy her pictures?
>>10097347Lolitas can be religious. We're not all irreligious beings worshiping Mana and Misako everyday. I'm Jewish and I'm looking forward to wearing lolita for Purim as my office will think it's a costume.
>>10098288It's not about not being religious, it's about not shoving it in everyone's face on social media.
>>10098292>shoving it in everyone's faceAnon, this is the internet. If you don't like it, don't follow it. Simple as that.
>>10098304>is internet>too autist to read previous message for contextThis is the inernet alright.
>>10098304Yeah, and that's exactly what I'm gonna do. I was replying to the anon who pulled the "but lolitas can be religious!!!!!" thing out of their ass. No one said that, they just asked if someone's religious bc they saw them posting christian shit on their insta. Read the argument before you reply you baby
>>10090860This made my mouth water.
>>10098292If she posted about it once how is that shoving it in your face?
>>10093189>no motherfucking Cruxshadowscause they suck.
>>10098916combichrist is so much worse lmao but still
not personally a fan of the feather bustle thing but i love the rest of this coord
>>10098916>>10098931>cruxshadows suck>combichrist sucksneck yourselves, underage faggots.
>>10098933I'm actually more not a fan of the shoes. To have all this gorgeous OTT goodness and to have... normie office lady shoes with those folds? Bleh.
>>10098944I'm almost 30 lmfaonot liking shitty bands from the early 90's/00's doesn't make me underage you fool.
>>10098950I strongly agree about the shoes and it's a shame because she wears them with so many coords...
>>10098969This might have too many sweet elements idk
>>10098970>uses a pic of a kid in a nightwish shirt to defend combichrist even tho they play together constantly and are equally shittyare you 10 years old or just stupid?
for y'all plus sized gulls
>>10098986Considering this one is a cosplay of one of Mana's stage outfits I'm not sure if it counts.
>>10098988my bad anon i should've realized when the caption said "Saikai no Chi to Bara vibes"
>>10098989what the hell that skirt is from bodyline? i need it so bad
>>10105950>>10105948>>10105946These aren't gothic lolita
>>10098931Combichrist or VNV Nation who sucks more
>>10097347She is but she's not a preachy dick about it. It's just a part of her life, she's not part of an ultraconservative church that wants to kill gays and make all women tradwives or anything.
>>10106745it says "gothic thread" not "gothic lolita thread"
>>10106775It's on the damn lolita board you fucking autist, general gothic fashion is off topic here. Take this shit to /fa/
>>10106779That's right! NO OTHER HARAJUKU FASHION ALLOWED HERE. Only LOLITA. All non-lolita Japanese brands should go to fa
>>10106779It's actually hilarious you're calling sometime else an autist when you're the one getting butthurt about something not being in the right place
>>10106745>>10106779You can report off topic posts just fyi
>>10106842trad goth and whatever the fuck that other outfit was are definitely not j fashion. go to /fa/ if you want to start a generic western goth thread ffs or read the damn thread.
So... this thread sucks
>>10106896How about you contribute something instead of complain, then?
Why were the Alice auaa coords deleted?
>>10098984not that anon, but maybe that was part of the point.
>>10106906Maybe she means this thread sucks because some retard reports everything that isn't lolita
I hate this board. Stupid monkeys. As if you can have a Japanese goth thread on fa. I'm the only one who even made goth related threads on this retarded board.
>>10088571I'm 5'2"/158 cm and wish more brands would do 118cm-120cm lengths. Ankle-grazing skirts are super flattering on people like me who have big thighs that get cut off by short skirts in an unflattering manner or just want something more mature. Being able to wear dresses outside of lolita without a petti without looking like a sad soufflé is another bonus as well.
>>10108292I'm 159 and they just cut off my calves in an unflattering manner
>>10108310Hmmm, maybe try going even longer? 2" above the ankle is my preferred length. Anything shorter is unflattering for me. Obviously this is all personal preference.
>>10106906where do I get this dress from???
>>10108292>>10108310I'm 157cm with cyclist legs so big thighs and calves, I prefer my skirts/dresses to be right on or just showing my knees, longer highlights my huge calves or makes me look oddly short and shorter just shows how big my thighs actually are.