Lolita Secrets/Confessions Thread

[Anonymous No.10051914]

old thread on autosage >>10040458

- block out names
- don't fixate forever on one person so we don't get fukken nuked (mods = gods)
- sfw, this is a blue board you sluts

[Anonymous No.10051917]

[Anonymous No.10051968]

>>10051917
Eww what is she doing now?

[Anonymous No.10052043]

>>10051917
Who even is this.. I need deets

[Anonymous No.10052126]

I try to justify experience lolita prices to my friends and family as "it's a good investment, if I ever need money and can't work I can just sell some of my rare dresses..."
But on the real, i dont think I would sell any if I fell on hard times. I couldn't do it. Am I just a hoarder lol

[Anonymous No.10052129]

>>10052126
That's a silly reason to justify it anon. Lolita isn't comparable to stocks, it's not a real "investment", the only reason you need to "justify" it is that it makes you happy. If you're irresponsible with your spending that's another thing entirely, but otherwise, literally who cares what you spend your money on? If your family and friends keep being nosy about it because they think you shouldn't spend your own hard earned money on things they don't like - It's none of their business and you owe them 0 explanation.

[Anonymous No.10052132]

>>10052129
Yes, that's true. It's not that I'm financially irresponsible, just that my family and friends (for the most part) think it's a vain and stupid thing to pour my extra money into. I suppose my happiness is justification enough, but I just want to appease them so they don't judge me too hard I guess...

[Anonymous No.10052135]

>>10052126
I meant expensive by the way. I'm too dumb to type on my new phone.

Other confession is I wish I had one lolita friend I could really connect with, but our comm is shy overall and I don't know how to meet new people. Mostly lonelita life for me for 5 years straight lol

[Anonymous No.10052136]

>>10051917
Old and tired news

[Anonymous No.10052139]

>>10052132
I understand what you mean about wanting to appease your family, but why your friends? If your friends judge you for buying frilly dresses that you love, they need to stay in their own damn lane. Personally I'd cut off anyone who did that to me but I'm very passionate about my love for my wardrobe, and I'm a salty bitch lmao.

As for >>10052135
I don't know the dynamics of your comm and what your meets are like but imo the best way to at least try to make friends is have a casual meet up at a cafe, tea house, or someplace similar, and just talk to the other girls. Force yourself to be a bit more talkative if you must. You have the fashion as your common ground, work with that, if you click with any of the girls you can move on to talk about other things you may have in common.

[Anonymous No.10052140]

>>10051914

[Anonymous No.10052141]

>>10052140
Making a mental note to never sell to her.

[Anonymous No.10052142]

I confess im in love with the Finnish lolitas. The whole community is just so perfect and lovely. I havent been this obsessed with a community since the Oregon girls back in the day.

Theres also other finnish girls, like milkycap and maijuline Im just so in love with them they all have a great sense of style and i adore looking at them!!

[Anonymous No.10052146]

>>10052140
>writes ‘never worn’ on their listing
>mfw tempted to comment on it warning others of their deviance

[Anonymous No.10052149]

>>10052146
Do it.

[Anonymous No.10052160]

>>10052142
holy shit yeah. they're all well dressed and cute.

[Anonymous No.10052165]

>>10052132
I'm sure your family and friends all have something equally frivolous they pour money into. New car? House larger than they need? Extra kids? New electronics every year?
Almost everyone has something and most of the above are much more costly than Lolita.

[Anonymous No.10052176]

If someone has a visible tattoo that clashes with their coord it ruins the whole look for me and I find it trashy. I have tattoos myself but not in visible places I think it could ruin my coords. I just feel like you should either have it someplace hidden or at least make a coord that doesn't clash with it.

[Anonymous No.10052209]

>>10052142
same desu.

i just really admire choconokecha in general because she's an amazingly talented person as well

[Anonymous No.10052213]

there's only two girls in my comm that i actually like but they're both too nice to have separate smaller meets. even while a bunch of new girls make internet drama.

[Anonymous No.10052215]

>>10052213
I don't understand why that's a problem, not just in your case but in general. Why are there situations in comms where can't girls just meet up with their friends? Why does the entire comm have to be invited to everything? And I say this as someone whose comm doesn't have this issue, where we can meet up spontaneously or plan small meet ups and not invite the entirety of the comm, without sparking drama and whines about "secret elitist meetups".

[Anonymous No.10052217]

>>10052213
then host a private small meet in a cafe or something and just invite them.

[Anonymous No.10052228]

>>10052215
>>10052217
true i could, im just worried about upsetting people i know are overly sensitive. one girl i've turned down hanging out with her 1on1 multiple times

[Anonymous No.10052231]

>>10052213
I started having private meets with the people I like in my comm because we have too many cringy newbies. If that makes me an elitist bully then so be it. It's to the point where people leave events early because these itas are too grating and think their opinions on everything = the holy gospel

[Anonymous No.10052306]

My daughter wants to go to a tea party so bad. She’s 4 and watches/helps me set up and plan stuff for my local comm all the time but I never take her because she’s so little. All she talks about is having a tea party with me and cries every time i leave without her.
For her birthday this year I am going to host her own tea party for her. I’m trying to arrange for matching coords too, and bought her her own special tea party tea cup set. I can’t wait for her to be old enough to take her to tea parties with me, but for now I am super excited I can make this one dream come true for her. Only problem next is convincing my sister and mom to wear a proper Lolita coord like the rest of us haha

[Anonymous No.10052317]

>>10052306
That's really sweet!

[Anonymous No.10052324]

>>10052176
On the flip side, my confession is that I don't care about tattoos. Yours seems to be the more popular opinion on cgl, anon. I don't have any myself but when I see people with tattoos it doesn't ruin the aesthetic for me. I know it should, but I just can't see it that way.

[Anonymous No.10052325]

I can't hold it in any longer. I'm sorry. Everyone seems to love puvithels stuff. But it looks so costumey to me.

[Anonymous No.10052329]

>>10052306
You deserve the best mom of the year award.

[Anonymous No.10052330]

>>10052325

You're not the only one who dislikes her shit. I cringe just looking at it.

[Anonymous No.10052378]

My confession for the week -

Sometimes when I dress up and go to the major city near me and see other lolitas doing events/comm stuff I laugh in my head that none of them recogize me. I'm just there, doing my own thing, living my best brand whore life. Most of the time I seem to be dressed better/more put together than them? I'm not there to purposefully flex on them or anything... but I keep wondering if they see me and wonder who hell I am and why I'm some unknown lolita with a bunch of burando.

No one probably notices though.

[Anonymous No.10052386]

>>10052378
If they noticed you they probably think you're either too asocial to go out with them or don't know how to use internet to research communities in your area. If there are enough people in their comm they probably don't care about who you are, just saying.

[Anonymous No.10052396]

>>10052043
Search nebula rumor in the archive. You have been warned.

[Anonymous No.10052442]

I'm SOOO tired of creased dresses getting criticised. Do wrinkled dresses look worse? Yes and we ALL know, you're not saying anything new. Also:

- Are they in their room, with no shoes? They're probably just trying the dress on, leave them alone.
- Maybe they traveled for an event and couldn't fit an iron into their suitcase, I have NEVER been able to fit one, with all the shit one's gotta bring.
- Maybe for some other reason they didn't have an available iron or they did but it wasn't a steam iron and we all know sometimes normal irons suck.


I can understand if someone posts to CoF or something like that,s ometimes it does make sense criticising this, but honestly in most cases you should just leave people alone.

[Anonymous No.10052469]

>>10052325
>>10052330

Idk, its all pretty cute. Most of it is generic jfash and menhera.

[Anonymous No.10052471]

>>10052469
I love her menhera stuff. I'd love if she made a magical girl lolita dress but I don't think it's close enough to what she likes.

[Anonymous No.10052472]

>>10052442
If you try a dress on without ironing it first, take a pic of it and decide to post it online, people are going to call you out on being a slob, which you are. Either deal with it or put in just a little bit more effort into not looking like a slob in a fashion community.

[Anonymous No.10052481]

>>10052325
some of her accessories look nice but most of the clothing is a hard pass for me

[Anonymous No.10052489]

I hate noisy, unbehaved, not lady-like lolitas. There's a girl in my comm who's in her late teens, she dresses really well but behaves like your typical noisy babby weeb. She gets on my nerves so much i just want to tell her to shut the fuck up, she embarasses all of us but no one ever says a thing.

[Anonymous No.10052508]

>>10052471
an OTT magical girl dress would be amazing

[Anonymous No.10052510]

>>10052306
This is adorable and wholesome and I hope the party goes really well, anon!

[Anonymous No.10052511]

>>10052306
Is your com/other lolitas going to be there too? Or just close family?

[Anonymous No.10052512]

Confession: I like how lolita comms as a whole keep sissies and autogynephiles out and I don’t want cgl to become too tumblr-like and start handholding and cooing about hideous men in dresses trying to get into our fashion. Sissies need to stay the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.10052520]

Back in the days my comm had a member that was super obvious ageplayer. 50 years old guy dressing in sweet lolita.

The confession is: I’m sad that he is no longer member of the comm. He was super chill to be around. His fashion sense was questionable but as a person he was nice.

[Anonymous No.10052544]

>>10052520
This pic doesn’t even make me uncomfortable.

[Anonymous No.10052545]

>>10052396
Interesting. Not the worst I’ve seen

[Anonymous No.10052550]

>>10052489
Seconding, I wish there was a way to kick perma-itas out of the comm; or at least have it be more socially acceptable to call people out on looking bad consistently. It’s ok for new people to still be getting the hang of things, but if people really wanted to be lolitas for special snowflake points they should have the thick skin that comes with wearing an alt fashion.

[Anonymous No.10052556]

>>10052512
Funny you should say that because several comms around the world, and the international community in general, seem to struggle with keeping them out in recent years because girls are bending over backwards to be accepting of everyone, including fetishists, lest they be labeled elitists and bullies.

[Anonymous No.10052562]

>>10052442
It’s not like we’re breaking into people’s bedrooms to criticize how they look when they first try a dress on, they’re the ones who choose to share it with hundreds to thousands of people in an online fashion community. That’s the internet equivalent of leaving the house half-dressed and yeah, people are going to judge.

[Anonymous No.10052569]

>>10052520
My comm has one too. He tried he was just misguided and transitioned late in life etc. But he was super sweet and chill and honestly nicer and friendlier then some of these newer bitches that have joined the comm after he moved.

[Anonymous No.10052570]

>>10052550
Did you even read anon’s comment? She dresses well but she’s an annoying edgy fuck.
My confession: I prefer nice well mannered itas over well dressed bitches and edgelords who think they are so damn ~speshul~ for wearing something other then yoga pants and uggs.

[Anonymous No.10052619]

>>10052520
He looks so sad like i almost wanna buy him a usakumya so that he has a friend all the time

[Anonymous No.10052627]

>>10052325
I kind of like some of her stuff but I'll never buy it because she looks like shit and I don't want to support that financially.

[Anonymous No.10052630]

>>10052306
You can also put out a feeler to some girls you know well enough and invite them over for an hour or two during the party if they'd like to see your daughter on her birthday! I don't have kids, and I don't want them, but I'd be very honoured to help a little girl feel like a special princess for her fifth birthday.

[Anonymous No.10052631]

>>10052325
>>10052627

Yes! She's a nice enough person but my god, the taste level is just not there.

[Anonymous No.10052634]

>>10052489
Yes! Rambunctious people drive me up the wall. I don't like the rowdy young ones and the spergy older ones who just have to be the center of attention. We had a brolita who had some really annoying habits like smacking his lips constantly and spinning and twirling all the time and sperging over everything glittery. He wasn't obsessed with wearing other people's clothes, so he wasn't a creeper sissy, but he did have other questionable habits. I'd be annoyed if I saw him more often.

[Anonymous No.10052639]

>>10052619
A cabbage would make a much better friend for him.

[Anonymous No.10052656]

>>10052378
you sound like a dick tho

[Anonymous No.10052671]

>>10052489
Same here. I don’t expect everyone to behave as if they’re in a Jane Austen novel or anything like that but I’d really appreciate it if they could just act like adults. Too many people in my comm behave like rowdy teenage weebs at an anime convention. I get that they’re excited to be wearing lolita and hanging out with friends but why do they always need to yell and flail around? I always feel embarrassed when we’re in a public area, especially a cafe or restaurant, because we’re always the loudest group there. It doesn’t help that the loudest ones are also the most likely to yell about inappropriate things. For instance it’s true that having a large bust can be frustrating in this fashion but there’s no reason to scream about your “HUGE TITTAYS!!! xD” loud enough for the entire restaurant to hear. People always think we get stared at for how we dress but I think the obnoxiousness of our group has a lot to do with it, too.

[Anonymous No.10052673]

>>10052378
Or maybe the world doesn’t revolve around you and no one gives a shit?

[Anonymous No.10052701]

>>10052634
That sounds awful. We have a brolita who’s obviously a man, despite his constant I’m such a trap teehee routine. This kid screetches at the top of his lungs constantly. Even about his no underwear required gay clubs. Screamed when another girl got too
close to his dress. It’s so mortifying

[Anonymous No.10052716]

>>10052671
God this gives me flashbacks to a meet I went to a couple of years back
When everyone had met up, we went to a venue first for kind of a meet and greet to meet new faces in the comm.
The venue was quiet and laid back until we came in, and there were some girls in the group shrieking and shouting messing around. It drew so many stares and we were asked to keep it down or leave in the end, it was so embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.10052782]

>>10052673
>>10052656
lol this is why I said
>No one probably notices though
Welcome to confessions.

If I was actually that self-important I'd join the huge comm here and be some catty, attention-seeking bitch, surrounding myself with ita messes to make myself feel better like the rest of you?

[Anonymous No.10052784]

>>10052231
We also got more and more shady guys and "brolitas". So I just stopped attending meets and just met up with friends.
I dislike cringy " brolitas" and think they shed a suspicious light on everyone.
I also hate it when guys only "join" the comm to flirt. There once was that one guy that dressed up in goth/steampunk and just hit on every girl to see what sticks.
Lolita meets should be for lolitas and maybe their boyfriends, but not a bunch or randoms.

[Anonymous No.10052860]

I really want to try lolita because of how nice and pretty it all looks but I'm worried about being thought about as some sick fuck trying to fetishize the fashion.

[Anonymous No.10052863]

>>10052860
Well, are you an age player or involved in ddlg in your free time? Are you a sissy?
Those will get you frowned upon on cgl.
But if you're afraid of being looked down upon then just enjoy the fashion in private without an online presence.

[Anonymous No.10052873]

>>10052863
>>10052863
I'm not any of those things at all. It's disgusting and would never bring it out publicly.
I just worry that solely because I'm a guy, I'll be shamed for wanting to look nice while in a outfit if I ever attend a comm or feel proud enough about my coord to post it because of all the existing negative connotations with guys in lolita or any other j-fashion. Even if I do try my best to avoid an online presence or act like a normal person, I'll likely end up posted to a site like this and called a sissy anyway.

[Anonymous No.10052877]

>>10052873
AYRT - In a comm a couple of hours away from mine, a guy "brolita" is one of the leaders, and is consistently the best or one of the best dressed at every meet. He is great to be around because he is a genuinely cool person and not obnoxious or annoying. Generally what sucks about brolitas in comms lately is they're obsessed with being a "trap" and act really annoying but if you don't act like that and dress well, no one will have a problem with you, and if they do, then that's on them.

[Anonymous No.10052882]

>>10052782
You join a comm to make friends anon. But it's obvious you wouldn't make any, so carry on.

[Anonymous No.10052891]

>>10052782
I don’t care that I’m dressed better then the rest of the comm. at least my itas are nice people and not shitty petty assholes. We’ve had other well dressed people in my comm before, and at first I was happy but they flounced pretty quickly when they realized no one was interested in licking their cunt.

[Anonymous No.10052898]

It's starting to rub me the wrong way that people in a niche fashion are trying to score virtue points trying to suck up to indie brands. It's not like even the biggest brands in the fashion are making shittons of money the way H&M and F21 are, and we've established that some of them are struggling. So it irks me that on black friday that some people were like 'uwu support indie companies.' Bitch, I'm busy supporting actual brands that actually adhere to lolita. I don't really give a flying fuck about making some half assed crafted thing fit in with lolita some of the original companies who started making lolita are dying out.

I know some people are able to afford both, and that is fine, and some people prefer the aesthetic of said indie brands, which is fine. I just don't want to be guilt tripped into wearing shit I don't want to wear, and I'm tired of being force fed these indie companies. Just stop.

>unfollow them if you dislike them so much

I actually have since then which has cut down on some of the issues.

[Anonymous No.10052900]

My non-lolita friend (who is also well-off) wants to buy me my dream dress for Christmas, and there's a listing for it right now... I feel bad because of the price but she doesnt care, insists it's not an issue and just wants to see me happy and cute in it.

Am I being an idiot by not jumping up and saying,"yes, thank you so much!"? I just feel a little embarrassed for some reason. Always thought I would buy my DD with my own money so what the hell is stopping me? I don't know. Anyone else have a friend or lover who wanted to buy you brand and you felt a little hesitant?

[Anonymous No.10052921]

>>10052873
re: wearing the fashion, knock yourself out. but please don't join the comm. im tired of men trying to insert themselves everywhere

[Anonymous No.10052925]

Overbidding others, especially people I don't like and winning the auction kind of turns me on.

[Anonymous No.10052929]

I've been avoiding local meets because I dislike this one ouji that shows up at a lot of them.
He seems nice and not creepy on the surface but he hits on me repeatedly after every meet despite me making it obvious that I'm not interested every single time.

[Anonymous No.10052930]

I like itas. Their excitement and cringy behaviour may be embarassing but it reminds me of youth and easier times, so I can't help but sigh and smile a little.

[Anonymous No.10052934]

>>10052929
Maybe tell the other girls? :( that's just shitty. Maybe some girls you get along with would be happy to join you for a smaller private meet.

[Anonymous No.10052948]

I like well dressed brolitas. The ones who mastered makeup and coords skills are the ones who are cool.

[Anonymous No.10052949]

>>10052877
Thank you, I will definitely be taking your advice to heart.

[Anonymous No.10052951]

>>10052900
Try to enjoy it. They're buying it because they know it will make you happy and they care about you. It's not about the money for them. I also have a friend buying me lolita for christmas. He was looking directly on the AP website and I insisted he buy it secondhand because I would have died of embarrassment if he did that.

[Anonymous No.10053022]

>>10052306
That sounds really sweet! I'd tell you to post pics, but since it's your daughter I can totally understand if you don't want to post something like that publicly. You have to let us know how it went, though!

[Anonymous No.10053023]

>>10052545
You’re just looking up one key word into her drama anon. There’s about 5 years worth of tea on the girl. She got banned from her comm for starting drama here that wasn’t even true. She whined and cried about non vegan meets being exclusive to her diet and life decisions to the points that her comm had to change the meets to suit her needs. She would play the innocent sweet girl to your face then turn around and make up drama here and on BtBs. She sniped dresses from other members of her comm. slept with comm members husbands and boyfriends ( rumored not confirmed or denied yet), she started hanging with the LA comm when she got banned from the AZ comm and still wasn’t welcomed there. Went into being a stripper, moved to Hollywood and failed even at stripping. Now she’s trying to kiss ass to get back into lolita after essentially pulling a K8 and saying “ fuck you bitches” and leaving figuratively.

That’s just the tip of the iceberg. There’s soo much more on nebula/Dom/Brooklyn.

[Anonymous No.10053024]

>>10052489
Decorum and etiquette need to be taught in schools again.

[Anonymous No.10053025]

>>10052520
>tfw no matter how well you dress you will never look kawaii

[Anonymous No.10053027]

>>10052948
What’s that dress on the right?

[Anonymous No.10053029]

I like buying dresses for my friends who wear the same style as me, especially for twinning. It just makes me happy buying something I like even if it isn't for me. I can't get them KC or accessories though because I always end up wanting to keep those for myself...

[Anonymous No.10053030]

>>10052951
Thank you anon. After your reply I okayed her to buy the dress. She is so excited for me to get it even if she doesn't understand it. You're right, it's not about the money to her - and I'm glad you could understand! Haha I would be so embarrassed to have someone buy me a dress straight from AP as well.

[Anonymous No.10053033]

>>10052442
you realize hotels have irons right?

[Anonymous No.10053036]

>>10052877
Are you talking about JD? He is SUCH GOALS.

[Anonymous No.10053039]

>>10052442
If you’re traveling I’m assuming you’re in a hotel. Hotels have irons usually in the closet space on the wall or on the ground in a corner. If not you can always call the front desk for one to use. You’re either stupid and don’t know this because you don’t stay at hotels much. Or this confession is bait and you’re trying to sound stupid and new.

[Anonymous No.10053043]

>>10052898
God, same. I’ll support indie brands when they produce something beautiful and of good quality that I want, but not solely because they’re indie brands. If I’m going to spend money with the intention of keeping a brand afloat it will be on VM. They’re struggling too, and they’ve done more to shape this fashion than any indie brand. It’s annoying how people act like all Japanese brands are big soulless corporations just because they’ve been around longer.

The ironic thing is that the girl in my comm who’s been the biggest indie brand shill this Black Friday doesn’t even support our local indie brand, only ones from overseas, though there’s no significant difference in quality that I’ve seen.

[Anonymous No.10053057]

>>10052442

Oh. I guess my confession is I rarely iron my dresses. Strangely enough was never posted to the ita thread, most of my dresses don't look like wrinkled messes I guess?

Tips for other girls:
- Avoid the dryer and spread your dress out on a drying rack. *gently* tug things into place. 8 times out of 10 this dress doesn't need to be ironed when you're done.
- Travelling is when the polyester dresses really shine. Most of them are wrinkle resistant and roll up pretty small. So you can pack a good number in your luggage and not have to bother with the hotel iron either.

[Anonymous No.10053076]

>>10052228
You don't need to be friends with them just because you have the same fashion hobby in common. Don't feel obligated. Organise private meets for your birthdays or friend anniversaries (yeah I know, thats a bit weird and pushing it). Lots of people do this outside of their comms.

[Anonymous No.10053077]

>>10052231
You are well in your right to do that. Not everyone is compatible in friendship. Heck, even lone-lolita it if you have to. I find it fun.

[Anonymous No.10053078]

>>10053027
katrina op from angelic pretty
dunno which year
https://lolibrary.org/items/ap-katrina-op

[Anonymous No.10053079]

My confession is I love my comm on a social level. But I have no desire to attend our planned meets. The girls are all horrible at coordinating and even those who have closets of full sets and brand still make terrible decisions in coordination. Worse part is is their closets have the ability to make some awesome coords but they always resort to something soo cheap looking or something gimmicky like a floor length cloak that doesn’t match or a poorly crafted Madonna crowns and antlers. I don’t know why my comm can’t just play safe cordinates and not try to be trend setters all the time.

[Anonymous No.10053080]

>>10053079
which comm? i recently saw some, uh, antler atrocities at a meet

[Anonymous No.10053085]

>>10053080
What comm do you think it is? Many comms this ILD had antler monstrosity

[Anonymous No.10053097]

>>10053079
Az comm right? I feel you on this one. They are nice girls, but can’t dress themselves even if a perfect coordinate was laid out before them. The mods are probably the best dressed in the community but there’s not much to judge them agaisnt. I like seeing the comm being active again. But it seems the standard of dress is lacking.

[Anonymous No.10053099]

>>10051914
when i was still a babylita in middle school i had another lolita friend who was just as shy as me but we were super close and we were to eachother one of the only people we could talk casually to. unfortunately we eventually drifted apart when she moved schools. whenever we'd try to meet up again every couple of years she had crawled back into her shell and it would be painfully awkward. last time we tried to hang out we sat pretty much in dead silence while playing mario kart for 2 hours. it really was like we were just acquaintances. it's been years since i've last seen her and i would really like to be friends again and maybe invite her to join the local comm with me (i'm a lonelita but if i can work up the courage i'd like to go to comm meets) but i'm just super nervous about seeing her again, i have enough trouble socialising with normal people let alone another shy person. i don't know how she's changed since last time, hell, she might not even be into lolita anymore for all i know. the most painful thing is is that i know the feeling is mutual from hearing it through other people, that she would like to be friends with me again and we have nearly identical interests so i feel like that's valueable, but the ice is so unbreakable that it's antarctica. i really do miss our friendship. what do, gulls?

[Anonymous No.10053106]

>>10052921
I second this. Wear what you want, but if you try joining my comm as a man I'm going to ignore you.

[Anonymous No.10053108]

>>10052873
It really depends. One brolita in our comm was actually pretty nice. He took concrit and advice. He asked for help with his Makeup, so I bought a bunch of products for him, explained what they are and how they work, applied his makeup for him and told him to practice and ask if he had any questions.
What he did was expecting others to do his makeup all the time.
Also, every conversation with him started to drift to him wanting to transition, his mental problems, and how life is so much better and easier for women.
Don't be like that.

[Anonymous No.10053110]

>>10052891
I guess they were just embarrassed being seen with you or just didn't like your bitchy vibes.

[Anonymous No.10053113]

>>10053033
I spend a few hours in the car before every meet and there's no opportunity for me to change or iron my dress.

[Anonymous No.10053115]

Be honest.

How many of you were molested?

[Anonymous No.10053116]

>>10053115
News flash: Most women were molested/sexually harassed at some point in their lives.

[Anonymous No.10053117]

>>10053115
Every single one of us cross border.

[Anonymous No.10053120]

>>10053116
Maybe you think this because you hang around with weirdos who dress up like little girls?

[Anonymous No.10053123]

>>10053108
I've no plans to turn just wearing a frilly dress or skirt into a gender or social issue. That's just stupid as shit. Additionally, I've already got plenty of makeup experience working with sfx and some years of crossplay, so depending on others for it won't be a problem. I intend to treat lolita as just a fashion, nothing more, which I assume is what you all want it to be respected as.

[Anonymous No.10053124]

>>10053115
Weak bait

[Anonymous No.10053134]

There’s a fatty-chan in my community who watches the local sales page to swoop in and buy every single decent dress that comes up. She never wears them and admits she hoards them. She knows she’ll never fit her hog body into them.

[Anonymous No.10053135]

>>10053134
It's almost as if girls who were molested as kids and dress up like little girls in public have severe mental problems...

[Anonymous No.10053137]

>>10053135
So did you get molested too then? Don't take it out by projecting on us. Not our fault men don't get any sympathy.

[Anonymous No.10053143]

>>10052569
Would you happen to be in the Tennessee or Georgia Comm? This sounds familiar, and if it is who I think it is, yes, she seems super nice.

[Anonymous No.10053144]

>>10053135
Low quality baito

[Anonymous No.10053147]

>>10053099
Ask her if she still wants to twin with you then plan a coord with her.

[Anonymous No.10053168]

>>10053099
Keep planning to do things together. Ask about her life, share about yours. It can be hard, but get her talking about what she loves.

[Anonymous No.10053187]

>>10053134
SJR?

[Anonymous No.10053190]

>>10053120
Nayrt but the first time I was molested I was 12, long before I discovered lolita

[Anonymous No.10053192]

>>10053134
Is it that asian girl with a lot of old Moitie?

[Anonymous No.10053193]

>>10053187
Yes

[Anonymous No.10053195]

>>10053193
She posted several dresses for sale, they were all covered in stains and rips. I feel bad for her her dresses.

[Anonymous No.10053242]

>>10053113
I don't get it. Are you trying to make me feel bad for you because you look like shit?

[Anonymous No.10053249]

>>10051914
>It's not a fetish
>I wasn't molested
What are some other lies people in the /lgr/ little girl roleplay (aka lolita) community say?

[Anonymous No.10053251]

>>10053249
>it's not bait
>i'm just curious
what are some lies people in the baiter (aka you) community say?

[Anonymous No.10053252]

>>10053251
What are you trying to imply? That I'm masturbating to lolicon right now? That's sick. They're just kids!!!

[Anonymous No.10053284]

>>10053039
You trust hotel irons?

[Anonymous No.10053307]

>>10053242
nayrt, but why are you determined to be upset about something that doesn't effect you and might be due to uncontrollable circumstances? You sound like one of those people that isn't happy unless they're complaining about something.

[Anonymous No.10053317]

>>10052472
I finally figured out why I don't like anons like you. You sound just like my dumb fuck mother.

[Anonymous No.10053318]

>>10053284
dude, how did you miss
>on the ground in a corner.

>>10053039
see above - what fucking hotels are you going to?? They just leave shit on the floor for new guests?

[Anonymous No.10053322]

>>10053318

They usually leave it on a shelf, dipshit. What kind of hotels do YOU go to, all of you??

[Anonymous No.10053374]

>>10053318
>>10053322
This is how most hotels store their irons.
>>10053284
No, I just uses the towel trick.

[Anonymous No.10053377]

>>10052146
I wish lacemarket let you leave pic in the comments.

[Anonymous No.10053385]

>>10053242
I look pretty good because not everyone is crazy obsessed with perfectly ironed dresses

[Anonymous No.10053386]

>>10053123
I don't see why you shouldn't join a comm then.

[Anonymous No.10053388]

>>10053113
That was what my confession was about, not many got it. Since you usually can't tell apart those who COULD NOT from those who DIDN'T CARE TO, you should just be polite about it or not say anything at all. I have never found an iron in hotels btw, and even if had, some cotton dresses stay wrinkly unless you have an iron with steam. Others get wrinkly during car travels. There are so many reasons a dress could have creases, it always makes me laugh when I read "please iron your dress!". I have flashbacks from early 2000 when Captain Obvious was a thing.

[Anonymous No.10053392]

>>10053388
yeah i've had people comment on my "wrinkly" dresses but i had actually spent time steaming out all the wrinkles before i left my house and ended up with wrinkles because cotton and seat belts aren't really the best of friends

[Anonymous No.10053396]

>>10053388
>I have never found an iron in hotels btw,
see >>10053374
Irons in hotels are pretty standard in the US unless you are staying at some shady date rape joint.

[Anonymous No.10053410]

>>10053388
Those people are overreacting, your dress will also crease from sitting while an event is taking place, do those guys also carry around an iron in their petti?

[Anonymous No.10053427]

>>10052324
It only bothers me when it clashes. Like color schemes are a big deal for me, so for example, when I see someone in a super cute pale pink/lilac coord but then this giant dark red and green tattoo on their arm it really throws off the whole look for me. Same with other color combos. If it fits the style and color scheme I don’t mind it but when it clashes it’s just really ugly to me.

[Anonymous No.10053433]

I just started getting interested in Lolita this year, but Age players in the Pittsburgh comm almost turned me off on the whole fashion. Nothing worse than trying to befriend people your own age only to find out they’re gross. I might just make this a special occasion hobby.

[Anonymous No.10053436]

>>10053433
Or, you know, avoid your local comm altogether. Lonelita life is incredibly nice if you have the guts to wear the fashion on your own. If you don't then yeah, wear it on special occasions when you're more comfortable, but I'd advise avoiding your local comm anyway if it's full of ageplaying degenerates.

[Anonymous No.10053437]

>>10053433
Our official comm consists of socially awkward itas and dudes, 99% of nice and well dressed girls rarely go to meetings. But we keep an eye out for nice newcomers and invite them to private events.

[Anonymous No.10053438]

>>10053057
question: how many people actually put their dresses in the dryer? I don't think I would ever dare.

[Anonymous No.10053439]

I don't get on with my comm much at all. But I feel the need to go to meetups like they're some sort of obligation. I know they're not, but I can't help that I feel that way.

[Anonymous No.10053440]

>>10053438
I think you'd have to be one ballsy bitch to put a lolita dress in the dryer. I already get nervous about bleeding in the washer and overcompensate on colorbleed sheets

[Anonymous No.10053442]

>>10052570
You sound like an ita. Being an edgelord makes you ita, if you’re an embarrassment to the comm in any way you should be booted.

[Anonymous No.10053456]

>>10053438
>>10053440
I happily chuck mine in the dryer, but I typically only let them partially dry and then hang dry them

[Anonymous No.10053460]

>>10053433
I'm also in the Pittsburgh com, but I haven't run into any ageplayers. I didn't realize we had any desu. I mostly go to the craft and swap meets, why don't you come hang with us if they are really annoying you? (Assuming you're not just S being salty you got banned )

[Anonymous No.10053464]

>>10053456
wouldn't it cause damaging to the elastic? but i also buy old school dresses for the most part and i want to preserve those bits for as long as possible

[Anonymous No.10053468]

>>10053464
I haven't had any issues but I don't own any old-school and I am a skinny bitch so I don't typically strech elastic much

[Anonymous No.10053485]

>>10053464
Nayrt, but I usually flat-dry elastic pieces on a clean towel or throw them over my shower rod. Hasn't damaged any of my oldschool pieces doing this either.

[Anonymous No.10053488]

>>10053322
Thats what I'm saying. They aren't usually found on the ground in the corner. How did you miss that and then put a tone to your post like you disagree when you don't, dipshit?

[Anonymous No.10053558]

>>10052306
>tfw want to have a kid and do this for them
>tfw know if I have a kid I'll get depressed, fat, and ugly like all the other women in my family and will probably have to quit lolita
>tfw will never experience mother-daughter bonding over frills

[Anonymous No.10053561]

>>10052948
I love this pic but wow what a weird mix of body types. It both looks really cool and is fucking with my mind a little

[Anonymous No.10053563]

>>10053029
Same, anon. I wish I were a millionaire so I could buy lots of full matching coords for my close lolita friends...

[Anonymous No.10053567]

>>10052142
I've noticed them too! I wonder if it has anything to do with Finland's universal wage thing? They all seem to have giant closets and are really well dressed.

[Anonymous No.10053570]

>>10052948
+These are all brolitas? I knew the guy in the middle was, but wow. Explains so much.

[Anonymous No.10053574]

>>10053570
No they are not.

[Anonymous No.10053578]

>>10053438

I made this exact assumption until the clothing care thread brought up this exact topic and someone wrote this comment about Americans being used to putting things in the dryer and typically don't really hang clothes up to dry. Apparently explains why there's so many wrinkled itas out there.

Honestly I don't even know. AP uses delicate tulle lace which I assume dryer heat would destroy (ironing would also wreck them). But now it explains all the stories about buying from lacemarket and needing to wash the dresses, maybe for the first time. Like goddamn we're so cute but wtf is going on with the girls who think it's better to wear a dress until it stinks then sell it off rather than actually put it in some water and detergent. Burando's not that delicate. So long as you avoid the dryer, that is.


>>10053468

If you're skinny you'd want to preserve the elastic as much as possible. Most of them relax (ie- stretch out) when they start dying, so your clothes would get bigger rather than smaller.

[Anonymous No.10053581]

I spent ~$800 on lolita in the past week, but I get anxious about buying even a $25 Christmas gift for my friends/family because they gain less pleasure from physical items than me.

It's an awful feeling because it's not that I only want to spend money on myself, I just want to make sure whatever I'm spending money on will actually give someone happiness.

[Anonymous No.10053587]

>>10053578
I must be a rare American because I hate drying clothes in a dryer. I have two dying racks I use for everything. Clothes dryers are brutal and wear down your clothes so fast. On top of that, dryer sheets are toxic and it drives me crazy that people still use them.

[Anonymous No.10053604]

>>10053442
Wow anon you sound called out? Are you buttmad because the other well-dressed brandwhores in your local comm think you’re too much of a snooty bitch that they prefer even the bodyline itas over yourself?

[Anonymous No.10053614]

>>10052639

[Anonymous No.10053615]

>>10053468
i'm not fat anon, i'm just trying to preserve my clothing lol

>>10053485
oh yeah i do this too! I will hang or lie my pieces so they don't stretch in a sunny or warm area in my house for a few hours before transferring to a hanger and letting them dry the rest of the way

[Anonymous No.10053617]

>>10053558
anon you can adopt kiddos, that's what i want to do bc i'm too mentally unstable (and deathly afraid of pregnancy) to let myself give birth. I think it would leave a better impact and could be a wonderful bonding experience between a mother and child

[Anonymous No.10053632]

>>10053043
Puvithel?

[Anonymous No.10053635]

>>10053587
No. I’m an Amerifag and I NEVER machine dry. Hang dry only. Ever.

[Anonymous No.10053637]

>>10053558
Anon who posted the “secret” but I didn’t get fat or ugly...in anything I lost some weight after having my daughter? And I’m also adopted so it’s not like physically having a kid is the only option either. I also would love to adopt another kid like I was, not just spawn more (though ngl it nice having one person “in the family “ who looks the same as me. Don’t limit just straight up having a kid be your only only motherly link.

[Anonymous No.10053650]

>>10053587
Also American, but my parents were poor so I grew up hanging laundry outside. We only got to use the dryer in the winter. Now I just hang everything indoors just to keep my clothes nice.

[Anonymous No.10053665]

>>10053637
not that anon, but thanks for this. I probably won't ever be able to have kids and it's killing me inside because I do want them... so reading your post made me feel a tiny bit hopeful still. I am not adopted, but I had a shit childhood and was neglected hardcore and would have LOVED for someone to take me who could give me love. I'm sure that there are other children without parents who wish that as well. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.10053671]

>>10053665
Nah man, I’m a teacher and I would kill to adopt some of my kids if I could. If you can, adopt from foster care children if you can. I know the popular option is adoption outside of the US but a lot of American kids also need love weather their parents are high schoolers or they are already in foster. We’re looking to buy a home when I finish my degree, and as soon as I do, you bet we’re adding a foster kid to our family. If it’s not one I already know, it will be another.

[Anonymous No.10053787]

>>10053558
my mother an I have a similiar body type but my pregnancy and the birth was totally different. She didn't gain weight during the pregnancy and I blow up like a balloon. Her breast stayed big after breast-feeding, mine shrinked (95 cm before now 86) and I lost all the extra fat without any problem (she's always struggling with that). Now I finally fit in all brand dresses

[Anonymous No.10053805]

>>10053671
The reason so many adopt overseas is that adoption in the US is such a pain in the ass. Not every person is capable of properly caring for a child in the foster system... and some people would prefer to avoid anything to do with government child services.

[Anonymous No.10053833]

>>10053567
giirllll crush time

[Anonymous No.10053898]

>>10053671
I'm really embarrassed for you and our education system based on the multiple spelling and grammar errors in your post. Yikes.

There's also plenty of reasons people adopt internationally. Cost is a factor in addition to what >>10053805 said.

[Anonymous No.10053911]

>>10053438
See I've bought dresses that were supposedly "great condition" "first owner" and the fabric was worn and faded. I think people don't realize the damage they are doing by using laundry machines. I have one dress like that and then I'm also the first owner of another cut of it. The one I own, handwash, and hang to dry has beautiful, thick, crisp fabric. The one that is secondhand feels and looks old.

[Anonymous No.10054229]

>>10053433
I am so confused right now, I have been in this comm for a good while and never encountered any ageplayers. If they exist, it doesn't come up in conversation or on their social media.

[Anonymous No.10054253]

>>10054229
I think that person is a troll (probably S)
I talked with a com member who's been around here much longer than me and she mentioned that every now and then someone tries to start an ageplay rumor.

[Anonymous No.10054460]

>>10053898
Well it’s a good thing I sub math and not English! Plus I only usually come on here after several glasses of wine on my days off so it’s not really any indication of my actual writing behavior :^)

But really it’s a shame if you think it’s easier to adopt out of country then the kids right here who actually need your help. A good portion of kids of all ages are pretty normal and well adjusted it’s just got dealt a bad hand early in life.

[Anonymous No.10054531]

>>10053617
>>10053637
>>10053665

Adopted child here. Please do research as much as you can because people seem to have too idealistic idea of adoption.
It takes huge amounts of money and patience.
Almost every adopted child suffers from abandonment issues/trauma. It's worse if you adobt from developing country because those kids have likely seen some traumatic shit you are not capable of imagining about.

When I get adopted as a baby everything went as well as it can get but I'm still suffering some deep issues because that's how human brain works. It took years of therapy but I'm still having extreme anxiety. In example, when my parents go abroad the abandoned child in me is screaming "they have left you!! YOU ARE ALONE in this world! time to kill urself!!". And my adoption was extremely successful comparing to most cases.

I don't say that you should not adopt but don't think it as a simple solution. I can guarantee that birthing a child is 100 times easier. It's not like adopting a kitten.
Have your research and consider if you really are emotionally capable giving everything what it takes.

sorry for extreme off-topic

[Anonymous No.10054539]

Confession: I find the facebook group "Black Lolita Community" of bad taste. People would definitely scream racism if it were "White Lolita Community", I don't see why a black community should be okay. I understand that black lolita are less common and sometimes criticised by assholes... but that's it, they're assholes and you shouldn't even pay attention to them. Black lolitas are just regular lolitas, they don't need special advice like a tall or plus size lolita needs, so why did they think such a group was a bad idea? I mean, I do agree with "live and let live", but my confession is that I personally don't like that group.

[Anonymous No.10054540]

>>10054539
*good idea

[Anonymous No.10054548]

>>10054539
The caps that come out of that group are always so trashy too. All of that toxic facebook gif react bullshit.

[Anonymous No.10054593]

>>10054531
Jesus anon wtf? Me and several people I know irl are adopted and we are not like that and I have never heard that shit before. How old were you when you were adopted? Me and most people I know were adopted straight from the womb. I don’t recall being told I was adopted either, I always knew, my parents were always open about it and I never had any issues. My parents were normal middle class people too. They took care of my birth mother and her medical bills. It was just as expensive as if they had me themselves.

[Anonymous No.10054620]

>>10052306
Mom goals.

[Anonymous No.10054632]

>>10052142
Now /this/ is a comm
We need more like this

[Anonymous No.10054634]

>>10052520
This is why we don't name the farm animals, anon, you just get attached

[Anonymous No.10054641]

>>10053581

One thing that I hear is very helpful is buying Christmas gifts through the year, when you find an item that will really make someone happy, and then wait till Christmas to give it to them. It's less of a financial burden and often very thoughtful.

[Anonymous No.10054650]

>>10053468
It's not about the wearer stretching the elastic, it's storing things with elasticized straps or sleeves and the weight of the dress pulling it down and stretching it out.

[Anonymous No.10054652]

>>10054539
I'm good with it. It's a containment group for the type of insufferable personality that comes with a person of color who believes in segregation.

[Anonymous No.10054660]

>>10054531
Uuhh I'm gonna have to agree with >>10054593 here, that's a crazy outlook to have on being adopted. Were you bullied? Did your parents or somebody else compare you up a birth child? Because mine told me as soon as I was old enough to understand, made my adoption day like a second birthday (but smaller), and always told me how loved I was, to the point I have absolutely no desire to know what my life would be like without them. I feel so loved. The way you treat the adoption toward the child itself has a huge impact on them and I think these anons have it covered.

>>10053438
I think we might need a cleaning guide or something because all this discussion has made me realize I have no idea how to clean clothes besides washing machine/dryer combo. Is taking them to the dry cleaner safe? I can hand wash but I'm afraid my cats will lay on laundry I lay out flat to dry.

[Anonymous No.10054664]

I think the slowness of the Western seconhand market is not only because it's over saturated but because private sellers are too often not as pleasant to deal with and as costly as stores. I have had sellers trying to charge me PP fees even though they have been in the fashion long enough to know it's illegal, some of them lie about shipping items and postpone it forever without being open about it and some peoples standards of condition are atleast weird. Honestly I don't bother anymore if it's not a dream item or good local deal.

[Anonymous No.10054669]

>>10054593
Yeah same, also adopted from a foreign country and it didn’t cause me any issues nor did it for most of the other people I know also adopted from foreign places. The only actual thing that myself and others I know have found to be an issue is feeling like an outsider around your own people and culture that either immigrated to the area or were born there but at least were able to grow up in a family and household of said culture. It can suck at times but it’s not really ~damaging~ like >>10054531 seems to portray. Abandonment issues happen regardless whether or not someone is adopted.

Obviously not everyone is the same but I don’t think the majority suffer so severely mentally from it. Adopting older children, however, can sometimes have it’s issues but unlikely if adopted at an age before any significant mental and emotional development happens.

[Anonymous No.10054670]

>>10054539

I think an argument could be made that they do need special advice for colours that work with darker skin and what to do with hair that isn't relaxed. I mean, I get that white people and even the target demographic of Asian girls have their issues with it too, but as you said, black girls are less common so this makes it easier for them to find each other and learn from each what works and what doesn't. At least maybe it'll stop them from spouting that bullshit that all black girls can wear all of the colours, and therefore they wear all of the colours. All at once. In the most clashing combos possible.

Just hoping the better dressed ones rise to the top and become inspiration and SJW don't take over the group forcing bad taste on everyone else.

[Anonymous No.10054675]

>>10054664
You sound like the life of the party anon. Sorry you want Walmart prices for louboutins.

[Anonymous No.10054676]

>>10054664
Confession: I personally prefer CC/WW over LM because I’m a socially anxious fuck who doesn’t want to have to deal with human interaction, especially online.

[Anonymous No.10054681]

>>10054670
nayrt but I agree with this. My only concern about it is that it’s hard to think it’s anything besides giving itas asspats because muh black gurl magicks and making every single thing ever a racial discussion especially when it’s not even on the radar of the topic.

[Anonymous No.10054683]

>>10054670
You’re pretty optimistic thinking a group of just black girls isn’t going to be a bunch of raging “ white people” jokes and sjw rhetoric.

[Anonymous No.10054687]

>>10054641

Nah, this can backfire because if they want it that badly they can buy it for themselves. Only commit to buying it early if it's definitely something you know they really like but won't actually buy for themselves (like for some people they might be on a tight budget, then even if they really want a particular videogame they can't justify the expense even though they really want it, so that would be a good gift).

You might be better off keeping a note of the things they like throughout the year (like in Evernote or whatever you like to use). Then before Christmas (or their birthday), make sure they don't own it yet before you go out and buy it.

For the people you're stumped on, I'd take a leaf from the Japanese and do food gifts in nice wrapping. So long as the person isn't on diet and you avoid food they dislike, it'll get eaten, and a full belly is a happy belly, so none of it will go to waste. Just don't go to cheap, make sure it's nicely wrapped/presented and it'll feel special enough.

[Anonymous No.10054696]

>>10054683

Ugh, even as the person who wrote >>10054670 I'll admit this is one of the problems -- that's what I mean by hoping the better dressed ones become inspiration and the SJWs don't take over the group and it becomes a shithole that encourages most embarassing behaviour in various ways.

It's not a useful group if they aren't actively helping each other become better lolitas, whether that's dressing better or not talking shit about each other. Unfortunately that's just something they'll have to sort out themselves.

It doesn't take away from the argument that black girls getting together to share advice on dressing better is a good reason to have this kind of group. Whether it actually works out that way is a whole other story altogether.

[Anonymous No.10054698]

>>10054664
I've gotten neutral feedback for refusing to pay paypal fees from a seller recently. I'm still upset about it.

[Anonymous No.10054701]

>>10054675
I genuinely want to hear how did you got the idea of me being cheap as I only complained Western sellers being hard to deal with. With the similar pricing as the stores it's quite natural to rather choose the stores instead of private sellers. Idk maybe I have had really bad luck.

>>10054676
Tbh same anon. Sometimes my anxiety makes messaging anyone really hard and unpleasant so sometimes I just straight out choose stores because of it.

[Anonymous No.10054709]

>>10054698
Contact LM mods via fb. They’ll help you and likely change it to positive

[Anonymous No.10054710]

>>10054701
You have bad luck. Sellers as bad as you’re making them out to be are very rare. You only have PP fees if you are sending the invoice for payment. That’s when pp makes you pay the fee. It’s not the other person trying to swindle more money from you. It’s automatic from PP and out of everyone’s control. Most people have a PP set up as a business account so they can use a card to pay the shipping and not the wait three days till it shows up in their account. It’s just easier to do it that way if you want to get the item out quickly. With the business account you have PP fees. You don’t buy stuff from a shop without having to pay tax. Even thrift stores charge tax. What makes you think you won’t have to pay a “handling fee” because you’re buying from a personal seller and not a dedicated shop? Buy from shops instead if it bothers you that much. At least you seem to think those extra fees are justified when it’s the same thing from private sellers.

[Anonymous No.10054712]

>>10054670
>>10054681
>>10054683
I'm in that group. There aren't asspats and there isn't any "white people are the worst" comments happening. I've been in the group for quite a while (maybe 2 years?) and I've never seen any SJW shit in there. It's been rather dead except for recently. A group catering to black women in fashion to talk about things we can all relate to, like natural hairstyles, wigs in shades of blonde for our skin tones, etc ! = a racist group that's anti white.

[Anonymous No.10054713]

>>10054710
No store I buy from asks me more money after I have agreed on a price. The private sellers I have had this problem have literally asked it after I have purchased the item and agreed on a both shipping and the price of the item. How hard it is to just mark a price on LM you are fine with even when the fees are taken or clearly mark in your TOS you are going to charge a handling fee? I have sold multiple pieces internationally myself and have never had a problem with paying for my seller fees.

[Anonymous No.10054722]

>>10054712
If that’s what it is then great. Considering how social media has been lately, I can understand why people have a hard time believing it. It’s been pretty opinionated and quite honestly painting both white’s and black’s in a very ugly way. It’s not far fetched to thinking that the group is behaving like your typical SJWs since they show up on every platform they can find. Good that you have a group to help you with relatable issues. I wonder if there’s a group for handicapped lolitas so those of us on walkers, wheel chairs and prosthetics can talk about how to make such medical needs more inclusive to the fashion? Or a Muslim lolita group so the girls in hijab can talk about how to work the fashion into their dress code?

[Anonymous No.10054724]

>>10054713
Again, you have encountered bad sellers. Most people take that extra 2-5 dollars of fees without making the buyer pay more. I personally include the PP fee into the shipping cost before the sales been agreed and finalized. Many other lolitas in my comm and other comms do this. You just suck at finding them. Some may ask for more payment if there’s more for shipping because shipping is more often then not a shot into the dark for costs. But that’s only in certain circumstances to places with crazy package laws.

[Anonymous No.10054731]

>>10052306
Anon are you my long lost twin? My daughter is a bit younger then yours but we’re doing a Hello Kitty Tea Party next month. She’s been asking for one for months and always gets mad when I prep for and leave to attend meets without her. I got her a cute floofy dress and hello kitty tea cup and HK pastries I bought from the Cafe Truck when it drove through not too long ago. A few close friends who are also Lolita are also going to be there, but I doubt I could get my family to Lolita it up so I won’t even try. I wear mostly gothic these days but I’m keeping an eye out for something cute to match with her.

[Anonymous No.10054740]

>>10054724
You are misunderstanding me, anon. I'm completely fine when the fees are included on the listed item price or even on the shipping if I didn't agree on the exact cost when buying. The sellers I'm talking about have straight out asked me to pay the fees after the purchase. I never said the examples I gave weren't bad sellers but rather that the amount of bad sellers is increasing. I admit I don't buy that much from LM anymore but all my purchases from this year have had some kind of a problem.

[Anonymous No.10054749]

>>10054740
It’s rare and you suck at researching sellers. There’s no misunderstanding you just suck at LM and verification about who you buy from.

[Anonymous No.10054753]

>>10054712
That’s really good to hear then because a group like that is a great tool for helping others within a minority especially in a niche hobby. When it comes to asspats the way I see that is just how I see so many branch groups sort of “form up” on that basis almost entirely without any other substance pretty much like any ~new friendly lolitas only~ type groups that pop up on fb and amino. I personally don’t know much about the group but as >>10054722 mentioned, often on other social media platforms groups similar are formed and end up being more hateful than helpful to the ones in it. I am glad that it is actually a helpful but honest and open environment for black lolitas though.

[Anonymous No.10054770]

>>10054712
>>10054753
When you get people like >>10054759 positing all the time similar if not the same responses. I can see why people would think a black lolita group would be full of white people jokes and typical SJW trash speak.

[Anonymous No.10054789]

>>10054770
You really took that bait hard, didn't you?

[Anonymous No.10054843]

>>10053617
>that's what i want to do bc i'm too mentally unstable (and deathly afraid of pregnancy) to let myself give birth

>implying that pregnancy is the worst part of raising a kid

Oh boy.

[Anonymous No.10054850]

>>10054843
oh no anon, that's just the scariest part to me, dealing with the rest is just WEW

[Anonymous No.10054936]

>>10052639
ot, but
>A cabbage would make a much better friend for him
sounds like a meme from 2010
can we have a meme again? /cgl/?

[Anonymous No.10055020]

Confession: I want to make a group for English-speaking Asian lolitas. Not because I think we need support or anything, they usually dress well and I just want to connect with them. I live near a rural area with no Asians here. It would be nice to bitch with others about whats going on in the Chinese lolita community or about our conservative/judgmental families together.

[Anonymous No.10055046]

>>10055020
I don't live in a rural area, but my Chinese is pretty shitty so I can't really talk to the Chinese-only lolitas. This would be an interesting group.

[Anonymous No.10055049]

>>10054936
... dude >>10053614

[Anonymous No.10055052]

>>10055020

Please do it! I love this idea since I'm not confident with my family's native language.

[Anonymous No.10055056]

>>10053377
Host the pic off site and link it in your review

[Anonymous No.10055067]

>>10054789
>> lol it’s bait

[Anonymous No.10055068]

>>10054652
True

[Anonymous No.10055077]

>>10055020
Do it, I'd join in a heartbeat. We can talk about asian desserts like mooncakes, pandan, and drowning everything in coconut milk, coords for lunar new year and similar holidays, and compare our college/career choices and adulthood failures just like our parents and aunties do everyday.

[Anonymous No.10055083]

>>10055020

I'd join. I'm like 4th gen, but also grew up in a rural area too anon and lived in another such area for a couple years recently, I understand what it feels like. Would commiserate with/10.

[Anonymous No.10055087]

>>10055067
It actually was. Racial drama is the easiest thing to do here.

[Anonymous No.10055091]

>>10054531
I wasn’t adopted and I still have issues...none of my adopted friends have anything like what you’re saying going on. Pretty sure it has less to do with the adoption and more to do with your biological mental health issues. How you’re raised can affect it but sometimes you’re just born with these problems, much like myself.

[Anonymous No.10055117]

>>10055087
Go back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.10055124]

>>10054749
>there's no way I could be wrong at all, you just suck
nayrt, but really anon?

[Anonymous No.10055152]

>>10055117
Never been.

[Anonymous No.10055177]

>>10052325

You're not alone. She is a cool, nice person, but her clothes are not my taste at all.

[Anonymous No.10055183]

>>10052325
Puvi's products aren't as shitty as her attitude though. She has poor customer service skills.

[Anonymous No.10055192]

>>10053123

Dude, just wear the fashion. Join a comm, be pleasant and polite, don't talk about sexual things or conspiracy theories at meet ups, don't threaten anyone, don't leave creepy comments on lolitas' photos. You'll be fine, assuming you put together decent coords.

[Anonymous No.10055195]

>>10053036

JD, SO DREAMY

[Anonymous No.10055222]

>>10055192
>don't talk about conspiracy theories at meetups
Ntayrt but why is this so frowned upon. I'm female but if I talk about stuff like this other girls in my comm are put off by it. It's not like I believe them, I just think they're interesting. But I guess this is just me not being able to hide my power level. So fucking lame.

[Anonymous No.10055224]

>>10055222
Honestly, word. It's just conversation and usually pretty interesting topics at that.

[Anonymous No.10055231]

>>10054843
It's the part most likely to kill you, that at best will ruin your body and IQ forever.

[Anonymous No.10055232]

My comm used to be decent but now it's full of new girls who can't coord who have obnoxious personalities. I miss the good old days.

[Anonymous No.10055234]

>>10055077
Now you put it that way this sounds like the worst idea ever. Please don't make this group.

[Anonymous No.10055236]

>>10055224
>>10055222
It's funny to joke about them but my comm has a girl who is a hardcore chamtrail/antivaxx/moon landings were fake old-school conspiracy nut and she really believes them. She's insufferable. Ever since meeritng her, when someone starts sperging out about conspiracy theories, there's always the anxiety that they might actually believe them. No one wants to hang around a nut except other nuts. That's probably why people go quiet and give each other awkward looks when you start joking about ancient aliens or MKULTRA.

[Anonymous No.10055239]

>>10055224
Gulls like you are why I keep coming back to cgl. Of course anons will get this but the normies in my comm who just happen to be lolita's are so put off by it. If you're not supposed to have fun intelligent conversations at meets, what are you supposed to talk about besides the dresses?

[Anonymous No.10055243]

>>10055239
>conspiracy theories
>intelligent

[Anonymous No.10055249]

>>10055243
NAYRT but wow, you must be one of the boring girls who just sit around at meets talking only about the dresses or your boyfriend or whatever other mundane topic

[Anonymous No.10055253]

>>10055249
I'm capable of intelligent conversation. Always down to laugh at and debunk conspiracy theories too. I'd just rather not find myself stuck in a meet with lolita Alex Jones ranting about how the earth is flat and taobao is turning the frogs ita

[Anonymous No.10055254]

>>10055249

>the only intelligent conversation is conspiracy theories
>conspiracy theories are intelligent

Lmao.

[Anonymous No.10055255]

>>10055236
I don't really talk about the well known alex jones tier stuff. I used to watch Unsolved Mysteries growing up and some of it was really intriguing. I never say I believe in stuff and make it clear that I'm not like, bothered by it or a fucking truther or someone from /x/.

But I get it. I went on a date with a girl a long time ago and she was super into conspiracy theories. She refused to go out to eat with me because she was terrified Monsanto was gonna poison everyone to death. That's fucking loony to the point where it effects the person's life. It's pretty clear when it effects someone that deeply and when it doesn't.

[Anonymous No.10055257]

>>10055253
I don't think anon meant ranting about conspiracies in front of her comm,just casually bringing them up, laughing about them and discussing them like adults just having a good conversation.

But Taobao is putting chemicals in the dresses turning the frickin' frogs ita...

[Anonymous No.10055261]

>>10055243
>>10055254
I'm not saying that conspiracy theories are intelligent but I think having an open minded conversation about them can lead to intelligent conversation.

Based on the meme reply, I can't really take you seriously when it comes to intelligent conversation. If you just post meme responses on 4chan and take the easy other side of the argument just be contrarian, then I can't imagine you are all that thrilling at meet ups, if you even go to them.

>>10055253
I'm the original anon that brought this up. As I mentioned in >>10055255 there is a huge difference between the type of people who take this shit to heart and those of us who have a good chuckle at dissecting theories.

[Anonymous No.10055264]

>>10055257
>But Taobao is putting chemicals in the dresses turning the frickin' frogs ita...
What's really hilarious is that cgl pretty much has built a conspiracy that China is now controlling the lolita market and that our style is being threatened by all these Chinese ita's and their shit taste.

[Anonymous No.10055269]

God I hate ddlg fucks. Like people already look at you funny when you say you're into lolita fashion because of that book and they already think you're some kind of creep. I hate that ddlg creeps are flaunting the fashion along with their degenerate kink. They'll end up associating us with creeps and pedophiles. We'll end up becoming like the furries where it's mostly decent people with degenerates ruining it for the rest of the community. I feel sick whenever I see one of those shitheads in brand or anything else. Stop ruining it for the rest of us. You're fucking disgusting.

[Anonymous No.10055280]

>>10055269
What rock have you been living under. This has been a problem for years now. We are just like the furries at this point. We are just going to have to live with it and continue to remove the ddlg people from out communities but they will not die and leave just like the furries. Sad to say but it’s a frustration and miss association we will have to live with.

[Anonymous No.10055285]

>>10055269

>mfw all the furries I personally know are into yiffing
>mfw none of the lolitas I know personally are into ddlg, and pretty much all my interaction with them has been hearing about it online and on cgl

[Anonymous No.10055289]

>>10055280
Just get into classic instead of sweet, wouldn't it have less of an association due to the dulled colours?

[Anonymous No.10055303]

>>10055222
I like talking about them too. But now I'm thinking I shouldn't. I don't want people to think I'm actually into them. I'm more like an enthusiast.
Fuck. Even my boyfriend has expressed concern that I believe some of them. I can totally see how it could be a red flag for people.
But for real I just think it's fascinating what people come up with.

[Anonymous No.10055313]

>>10055289
I don’t dress sweet but it still has the negative image because of the name being common with the book and it’s association with pedophilia. I personally dress mostly gothic which is easier integrated into the goth fashion but even then you still have to deal with people who don’t know much about the fashion and associate it with something sexual. For goths it’s mainly bdsm and Highschool shooter because of the columbine boys. There’s no escaping the image you look like to an outsider because they only see what they want to see from it and what they see is what is reported in a negative way. It’s the same way it’s been with “ terrorist attack on the city” is automatically associated to Islamic religions and how media will be quickly to say “ oh he was Muslim converted in prison” it’s fear mongering and all outsiders see so they don’t understand that there’s people in the same line of fashion, religion or what have you that are not absolute nutcases. You simply learn to deal with it or get the fuck out if you can’t deal with the pressure.

[Anonymous No.10055325]

>>10055303
Just state that you don't believe in them? Also you sound like you're questioning yourself and your own beliefs. Don't you know what your own beliefs are?? Be more assertive, damn.

[Anonymous No.10055330]

>>10053433
>Pittsburgh comm
well there's your problem

[Anonymous No.10055349]

>>10055269
How did ddlg even get to the level of popularity it has had in recent years? I had never even heard of it for the longest time, but at some point around the middle of this decade I started seeing a lot of girls on tumblr with 'cute' themed kink blogs calling themselves "daddy's little princess". It was almost like this fetish that everyone would have been weirded out by a few years prior somehow became trendy.

[Anonymous No.10055353]

>>10055349
It’s like Melanie Martinez rose in popularity and was all over Instagram, tumblr and YouTube. Not to mention hottopic shoving her cute baby doll shit at you when you went shopping at the mall. It was always in the window displays. There was also that “living doll” thing that was trending a few years back. Social media is a weird place and of you know how to hurl yourself around it you can get anything accomplished.

[Anonymous No.10055368]

>>10055349
It's actually gotten a lot more popular in kink communities as well, which does point to it being a trend. It used to be mostly your standard master/slave stuff, but now this DDLG stuff is everywhere. So it's not that they existed before but were just hidden away, there are actually more of them. I don't know if there's any studies or anything done on it, but it would be kind of interesting to know why. Like is there something about this day and age that just makes people want to regress?

[Anonymous No.10055370]

>>10055368
Perhaps it has to do with it’s easier to have someone take care of you then take care of yourself. It’s easier to get what you want without having to work for it.

[Anonymous No.10055399]

>>10055236
There’s someone in my comm who keeps ranting about Israel and worldwide Jewish conspiracies and she seems to be aware that this makes people uncomfortable, yet she keeps doing it anyway and occasionally vagueposts about how our comm discourages intelligent conversation and how she’s the only Jfashion lover in our region with her eyes open. She’s a huge SJW and accuses anyone who criticizes her of being racist against Muslims (though she herself is white, agnostic, no Muslim relatives whatsoever). Most of us try to avoid her at meet-ups but she attends so many that sometimes you just get stuck at a table with her and it sucks.

[Anonymous No.10055407]

>>10055399
Tell your mods? Unsub from her Facebook so you don’t see her posts but she still thinks you’re friends? Plan meets with the lolitas you want to hang out with so you can have a moment of silence from her? SJWs just say their PC garbage to get a reaction from others so they can get their soap box out. Don’t fan the flames and let her sit in her corner bing grumpy that no one wants to talk about politics. It’s pretty easy to avoid insufferable trash.

[Anonymous No.10055412]

>>10055407
I’ve already unfollowed her everywhere and afaik the mods are aware but don’t want to get involved. Mostly I avoid her, and when I get stuck sharing a table with her I try to ignore her or change the subject. She keeps coming back on it, though. We have several other socially inept people who do the same thing with rants about online haters and brandwhores and I treat them the same way: avoid and change the subject as much as possible, but it’s pretty tiring to spend an entire high tea like this. I’m always glad to see when she won’t be attending a meet-up. Hopefully at some point she’ll get sick of our unwokeness and leave the comm entirely.

[Anonymous No.10055413]

>>10055368
It's either that millenials and under are depressed that they'll never achieve what boomers have because they're getting fucked over by the economy or it's that we haven't had a war in a while and human beings have become complacent and entitled and don't know the meaning of hard work. Or enough of them have been parented badly that they have unironic daddy issues and ddlg makes them feel better about their lives because they're actually receiving some sort of vague parental affection.

[Anonymous No.10055415]

>>10055413
>millennials
Please stop this meme, millenials are about 30 years old now, most girls into ddlg are much younger, sometimes bizarrely younger.

[Anonymous No.10055417]

>>10055412
If you’re being placed with the insufferables then that shows what the organizers feel about you. You sound like you have no friends in your comm too so they place you with the others who have no friends outside of online followers subscribed to their soapbox.

[Anonymous No.10055420]

>>10055413
>Millenials are depressed
>Not having wars made humans lazy
>Bad parenting
>These things result in DDLG

Sorry anon but to me this sounds like shit

[Anonymous No.10055422]

>>10055413
The older half of millennials are defiantly not doing this as they are in their 30s or very close to it. The later half and gen Z are the ones doing this shit. The same people that cried when they got a android when they wanted an iPhone generation.

[Anonymous No.10055430]

>>10055368
>Like is there something about this day and age that just makes people want to regress?
I honestly think it's just an extreme reaction to how increasingly fast paced and "complicated"/overstimulating everything is nowaydays, how quick things change and general problems dealing with adulthood and what it means to be an adult in said world - while also having the freedom and resources to question it. Other than obvious psychological issues of course. As a child you didn't have to worry about any of that and could spend an hour doing stupid mundane tasks, didn't have any responsibilities and felt safe about your life circumstances.

[Anonymous No.10055432]

>>10052512
I've got the impression that it's the exact opposite: even though NO brolita (besides Mana) ever looks good, everybody is busy kissing their asses.
Just look at the replies as a reaction to this post: tons of girls telling stories about that one brolita they know, who somehow is sooo sweet and totally not creepy at all...
Nobody would be caping this hard for a fellow women. Nobody has a problem with criticizing completely average looking girls - no matter how nice and friendly they might be - yet every shit looking man gets a pass.

[Anonymous No.10055437]

>>10055417
Lolwut, nobody gets “placed” anywhere. People sit down wherever they want and if you enter the room last or are just unlucky you can end up at a table with people you don’t like much. Sometimes people try to hold a seat for a friend but that’s kind of frowned upon. Most of the time I’ll end up sharing a table with 3-4 friends and a few random people. It’s a nice way to get to know people you don’t normally talk to, but it does mean that there’s a chance of being stuck with an annoying person.

[Anonymous No.10055440]

I know a lot of people who are into DDLG and none of them wears lolita (maybe one has like, two dresses from To Alice, but that's it). They are also all chill and look like okay people. Talking with them feels like talking to a normal person, they are not particularly weird or overly sexual. I still don't like DDLG per se but the people I know who are into it are fine. Just sharing my experience/two cents.

[Anonymous No.10055441]

>>10055440
If they're not retards and not even into lolita, how is this relevant at all? Complaints about ddlg in lolita are tied directly to the fact these idiots can't/won't keep it in the bedroom and sometimes relate the fashion to their kink, throwing the rest of us under the bus. No one cares about people who are into it and keep it to themselves.

[Anonymous No.10055471]

>>10055399
>not finding these people wildly entertaining
Thats probably why shes still in the comm. Someone is at another table laughing at whoever gets stuck with her.

[Anonymous No.10055476]

>>10055417
>the others who have no friends outside of online followers subscribed to their soapbox.
I've met some "efamous" girls and they usually have their own little clique they sit with. Maybe they're all shallow and dead inside but I'm sure they're still friends on some level.

[Anonymous No.10055477]

>>10055441
>No one cares about people who are into it and keep it to themselves
I do.

>>10055440
You may think they are all fine and its like talking to a normal person but so is talking to the pedophile that bags your groceries or drops your mail off.
That's part of what makes a lot of these people so monstrous. They're not always the drooling retards portrayed in newstainment like how to catch a predator. There's nothing normal about people who think the idea of a dad fucking a kid/their own kid is ok. And the fact that people get into this to just hop on some trend is so fucking shallow and sick on another level. Seriously.

[Anonymous No.10055514]

>>10055303
I talk about conspiracy theories also but not the Alex Jones shit but rather the well researched and plausible theories about pharmaceutical companies for example. Not that I always believe them but they can be quite informative and honestly, the theories make a lot of sense.

Some of my friends immediately call me a truther which is pretty offensive, considering they believe every God damn news article they see online. The news reporting in the US is total trash and misrepresents facts a lot of the times. I've found most of my friends just can't handle the fact that someone else has a differing opinion or doesn't take everything for face value.

[Anonymous No.10055519]

>>10055437
Holding a seat for a friend is frowned upon? Didn't know that. Well, maybe that's in your comm. I don't really care who looks down at me for saving my friend a seat - I'd rather enjoy the meet than have any of the girls I find annoying sit with me.

[Anonymous No.10055527]

Forgive me Mana for I have sinned.
I bought from Rainies even though I really don't want to support the shady ass scalping thing she's running. But she had a dream dress of mine. Perfect cut and colorway, good price.

[Anonymous No.10055535]

>>10054664
>>10054669
I honestly hate buying secondhand because of how open Lolita’s have been (even in my own comm/friends) about not washing their stuff. If I’m buying something used secondhand there’s a pretty good chance the bitch hasn’t washed it in ages, if ever, and that squicks me out.

[Anonymous No.10055544]

>>10055535
I’ve bought dresses from sellers with disclosed stains, and when questioned they answered they never wash their clothes

[Anonymous No.10055574]

>>10055544
>>10055535
I sometimes sell stuff I bought, never wore, and never washed- usually impulse buys. I tell sellers that if they ask. I remove the stains and wash everything I do wear though...

[Anonymous No.10055579]

On shit that never happened

[Anonymous No.10055581]

I’ll take $5 for shit that never happened

[Anonymous No.10055585]

>>10055581
And on that day racism ended

[Anonymous No.10055593]

>>10055581
Everyone got out of the nearby houses and started clapping

[Anonymous No.10055598]

>>10055519
Yeah it’s probably just my comm. People here go a bit overboard trying to be inclusive and to not come off as cliquey or elitist. Nothing official, though.

[Anonymous No.10055623]

>>10055514
The belief in the media is weird. I think it's fairly obvious the media is biased and gets a lot of stuff wrong.. Think about any article about lolitas. How many are well-researched, 100% factual?
I feel like since Trump, normally skeptical people who are anti-Trump have gone all in on just believing every single thing they read.

[Anonymous No.10055686]

>>10052135
Honestly I don't know what to recommend. My com is nice, but the only one I'm close with and really talk with outside of meets and maybe some FB posts never goes to meets and instead I met her because she offered helped me out with something after posting a question about it, year later (needed to prepare some stuff) I asked her if the offer still counted. It did, we talked some more online, met, now we're good friends. She'd never been to a meet. I don't really know what the best place is to meet people. I tend to meet my best friends in the opposite of general advice...

[Anonymous No.10055689]

>>10052176
This. I have (normally) visible tattoos so I always wear clothes over them in lolita. Some cases it looks OK, but most of the time it clashes so badly.

[Anonymous No.10055719]

>>10055432
I once met one other. But he was an Asian guy with feminine enough facial features. Other than that the best I saw was someone looking like a very ugly woman, and those pictures looked proffesional enough I expect retouching. People can saw whatever they want and call me some Asian fetishist, but feminine looking Asian guys are the only ones who can pull brolita off, at least I've never seen proof of anything else.

Only counts for feminine looking ones. Not guys like >>10052520

[Anonymous No.10055729]

>>10055581
"You look so thug" ...can confirm as an individual from the "iffy" side of town" that nobody says thug anymore, and it's never used in that context.

[Anonymous No.10055734]

>>10055623
The world would have been better for everyone, right and left, if Trump and the alt-right had never happened.

[Anonymous No.10055766]

>>10053650
It's kinda sad Americans only do this because they're poor or because they're super into eco-stuff. In my country its very normal for poor and rich (and all in between) to hang the laundry beside a few cases. Average norm is very simple:

Machine dry for towels and other soft, fluffy items, keeps them fluffy and soft. They're replaceable and cheap anyways.

Hang outside in summer unless it's a garment for which you really care about decoloration (mainly expansive items, fast fashion is replaced before it fades too much anyways, because it breaks and you have to).

Hang inside in winter or when wanting to avoid sun (or when not having any yard).

I only know a few people who machine dry everything, but they have the money to replace all their stuff any moment and are too lazy to hang it. It's really a luxury to do that, same as dry cleaning, which is fucking expensive here.

[Anonymous No.10055788]

>>10051914
My confession is that I just turned 26 and I'm finally making enough money to justify buying more lolita, so my wardrobe is finally expanding and I couldn't be happier.

Only downside is that there isn't really a local comm where I'm from, but I'll be a solo-lita on my free time I guess.

[Anonymous No.10055790]

>>10055788
Do it. Having lolita friends who understand you is nice, but it's better to just have friends who accept and love you (lolitas or otherwise), and just wear the fashion whenever you want.

[Anonymous No.10055803]

>>10055581
r/thathappened

[Anonymous No.10055835]

>>10055581
>lolita
>thug
What was she wearing and why was it that one taobao gun print?

[Anonymous No.10055855]

>>10053099
From experience I can say that most friendships break apart from misunderstandings or lack of communication. So the worst thing you could do is to just stop talking to her and giving up on your friendship.

Your friend might also not be just super shy, but she might actually suffer from other issues like depression or being at a very difficult stage in her life where she feels overwhelmed by everything. Doing the simplest stuff like talking to other people can be VERY difficult if you are that much depressed, but if someone reaches out to you it's the greatest thing ever and can boost your self esteem a lot. At the same time it can overwhelm the other person, and the first instinct might be to completely shut down and to block off any closer interaction (exactly what happened at your awkward meet up).

So it's very important to rebuild your connection in very slow steps. I would suggest doing activities that don't involve much talking at first, like watching a movie or playing games together (mario kart!). In the meanwhile you can try to come up with a casual conversation but if she doesn't respond it won't be awkward for both of you.
If you have mutual friends, meet up all together, it will take the pressure from her. After a while, she'ss hopefully warm up it will be easier for her to talk (and if not you don't have to feel bad about it anymore because you tried your best).

[Anonymous No.10055910]

>>10055269
It's hilarious, in an infuriating way, that we're associated with pedophiles but actual creeps like Jonathan Y*niv and Stefonknee are given a wokeness pass because
>muh poor oppressed trans
Fuck them all.

[Anonymous No.10055914]

>>10055527
>I really don't want to support the shady ass scalping thing she's running
Well congrats, you did

[Anonymous No.10055925]

Is gothic Lolita dead? I feel as though due to the rise in social media that it has just merged into western gothic fashion and has truly lost its spark. Sick of seeing every other goth lolita wearing an IDD dress and a VDD Star crown. The outfits get so repetitive.

[Anonymous No.10055931]

>>10055925
That is the opposite of it being dead? Trends come and go, and those 2 are very trendy with the western community. It’s like saying classic is dead when everyone wore underskirts or Madonna crowns or sweet is dead when everyone wore twin tails.

If anything the revival of moitie brought a lot of people into gothic this year, especially with their releases that were not bloodbaths and fit fatties. I think they released 8 dresses this year? Sleeping garden twice, Neo Gothic arch, cross op, Catherine, Juliet, the rose one, collab one, and lace cross. Ate pie is pumping out stuff and trying out new shapes like their vest/ouji set, boz is normal. H naoto isn’t strictly Lolita but they are making new lines, one is marketed as eco friendly. Ap and Aatp did gothicish Halloween prints, aatp seems to be less goth these days overall though.

Indie wise there is finally a few gothic brands, the only real reason those two dominate is because it was a niche that wasn’t filled. If violet fane and the other few Russian ones step up and do more online stuff you will start to see them more.

[Anonymous No.10055943]

>>10055020
do it, I'll join

[Anonymous No.10055944]

>>10055581
I guarantee she grew up in Corntown, Illinois, acted like eminem in high school, and now spends her 'gap year' fantasizing about how cool she could be if only life had been different

[Anonymous No.10055948]

>>10055931
I’m looking at the Russian brands to really step up their game. Or other lesser known brands like Fidel David. I’ve always wanted his brand to come out on top.

[Anonymous No.10055949]

>>10055581
I don't mean to sound like a bitch but I get this (or some version of this) literally every time I go out.

How ugly are you people?
I can't even belive you find it so unbelievable that it must be a lie.

[Anonymous No.10055960]

>>10055949
Same. You don't even have to be pretty to cause this. I've had all kinds of street people ask me for photos.

[Anonymous No.10055970]

>>10055949
I mean I don't go through the ghetto in Lolita, so this interaction has never happened to me, but of course I've gotten stopped (all of us) for pictures. I think the point is this shit sounds edgy af you autist

[Anonymous No.10056022]

>>10055949

Nah, read the comments. It's pretty much the conversation she describes that sounds really off.

Being asked for photos is normal, yes. The conversation is another thing though.

[Anonymous No.10056032]

>>10056022
ntayrt but I am >>10055960
I get why people are saying this never happened, but do we know what kind of people said this to her? Like sure, black people in the actual ghettos of Oakland and Chicago no longer say "thug" like that but.... have you met white meth addict wiggers? I can promise you there is trash out there who still talk like that.

[Anonymous No.10056037]

>>10055222
Talking about conspiracy theories is frowned on in most places in life not really a lolita thing.

[Anonymous No.10056042]

>>10055527
No one is forgiving you for that.

[Anonymous No.10056043]

>>10055910
I'm trans and don't like these people I don't know why anyone would go out of their way to defend them. I don't even understand how that would win you woke points or whatever.

[Anonymous No.10056046]

>>10056037
Just goes to show that most people are dumb and have no real opinions of their own so anything outside of the norm of conversation topics becomes labeled as "not appropriate". It's so stupid that every day life is turning into walking on eggshells because shit is frowned upon.

[Anonymous No.10056049]

>>10055766
I think it's that most Americans are either too lazy or work too much that they don't have time to do their laundry. Many also believe an item needs to be washed after every single wear and can't understand what undershirts are for.

[Anonymous No.10056058]

>>10056046
Do you wear a tin hat to keep the aliens from reading your mind? Conspiracy theories are not talked about in public not because of fear of sharing opinions. It’s because it’s a stupid topic to bring up to people in random passing. Friends you can talk about it, but not people you barely know. I mean you walk up to someone you’re standing in line at the DMV with and start bringing up the whole “ NSA is watching us through our phones” topic. See how quick people look at you like you’re deranged. Friend would just laugh at you and probably join in the conversation. You don’t talk politics or things that can be heated in discussion in both professional situations and with people you just happen to be around. It’s not because people fear the talk of it, it’s because it’s not appropriate for the situation.

[Anonymous No.10056113]

>>10056046
You forgot to use the word sheeple.

[Anonymous No.10056120]

>>10055910
It works like this even in my comm. We’ve had some bad experiences with creepers so we tend to be on high alert when strange men try to cozy up to us, but as soon as they claim to be trans all that caution goes out the window and we’re supposed to excuse creepy behavior because he “didn’t get to have a female childhood UnU”. We’ve had guys repeatedly flash their underwear and make lame excuses as to why they can’t possibly just wear bloomers like the rest of us, PM girls with invasive personal questions, try to invite themselves over to girls’ houses when their parents aren’t home so they can give him a makeover, etc. All stuff that if it was coming from a regular man would get him booted immediately, but because he’s claiming to be a shy transgirl UwU we have to give him the benefit of the doubt. It’s like some magic shield that renders them immune to normal criticism. Eventually they go too far and the mods kick them out but there are always a handful of “woke” girls who take his side and kick up a stink about our comm being transphobic. Which is funny because we have a number of nonbinary and FtM members who nobody has ever had a problem with. It’s fucking bizarre that this obvious scam actually works on so many people. No wonder creeps keep using it.

[Anonymous No.10056146]

>>10055236
But, mkultra isn't a conspiracy? It actually happened?

[Anonymous No.10056193]

>>10055527
You could've just been looking better and bought it before she did! Lazy ass. If you have a dream dress you need to check auctions and secondhand sites every day in your free time. I don't anymore but to get my dream dress I did

[Anonymous No.10056207]

>>10056032

I'm the anon you replied to, but I'm not the one talking about "thug". Anyway I'm not even American so I'll defer to the other anons who are picking apart her story.

Regardless of that detail, it seems like we both agree her story seems made-up? And has nothing to do with being stopped for photos.

[Anonymous No.10056233]

>>10056207
I don't think her story is made up. She says they took a picture in front of a red truck. The guys were probably redneck wiggers. They're super common in certain parts of every state. I've travelled around the US a lot. I get being skeptical, sure. But there is nothing far fetched or outlandish about that girls story.

[Anonymous No.10056355]

>>10056120
I hate people.
Why can't people just let things be? Everything always has to be invaded by sex weirdos or drug weirdos.

[Anonymous No.10056501]

>>10055264
What is hilarious is idiots acting like a few taobao stores are representing sentative for all of TaoBao. Then they complain about the quality and most likely only bought the brands that are super cheap B quality brands, new "just doing this because its trendy" brands, or bigly marketed (to the west)/continously mentioned because they're known brands. Or a mixture of those 3. And then they act like brand is superior ignoring all the quality mishaps with AP lately. Or the other side, they act like TaoBao is always as great as JPN brand, or even better than it.

I'm not saying taobao is always great or bad, or jpn brands are always great or bad btw. That's not the point, and a different discussion i feel the answer is more nuanced on as we'll talk about many brands that have very little to do with each other. The point is that most of the time, those who complain the most often on either side don't know shit about quality and just repeat others or say what makes them look best, or lack common sense and only buy super cheap stuff then get mad like all off TaoBao is scrap because their 35 euro skirt wasn't great quality.

[Anonymous No.10056505]

>>10055368
A few things that can be related to this:
>herd behaviour. Humans are here animals. We'll see a lot of people within our herd do something, and people automatically get more into it too. Groups where we don't see DDLG people around there is way less increase. Also, the fact people get attention for it, and our nature as herd animals, we want to be acknowledged. It's also a trend thing, just like BDSM had some increase after 50 shades of grey. Wait until the next trend in fetishes arrives.
>life got easier. Humans are smart. Like any smart animal, we need stuff to do with our brains. When we have little real problems to worry about, we'll make stuff up. Either create problems, or do weird stuff (in which consequences can become our new problem, or how to do said weird stuff can be). Before, we didn't even have a change to do weird stuff because of consequences, but now we can take them easily. This is also why it's a bigger thing in developed countries.
>overal, we automated more, and worked on efficiency in our societies. Kids being (partly) raised by schooling or babysitting systems while both parents work. Parents try to be friends instead of giving their children a proper upbring that includes all grown up skills. These kind of changes have a negative effect on the mental health, even. When they seem more easy, nice, and save.
>general emancipation (the not overdone or extreem kind) making it more easy to find new fethises and such, and to experiment with them without feeling like a bad person for it.

Maybe there is more but that's what I can think of that causes increase of the general DDLG fetish club.

[Anonymous No.10056506]

>>10055368
Oh yes also this >>10055370. Life being good made people lazy. Having someone take care of you is easy and allows lazyness to continue or even increase.

[Anonymous No.10056581]

>>10056501
>all the quality mishaps with AP lately.
I was with you until this. I'm no longer sure of what you're talking about. I purchased a few of this years releases and they were all great? What am I missing?

[Anonymous No.10056584]

>>10056355
>drug weirdos
Please expand on this.

[Anonymous No.10056643]

>>10056113
That's because I don't think of it that way.

>>10056058
>because of fear of sharing opinions.
Since when? Every where I go people are consistently arguing politics and at each other's throats, but you bring up conspiracy theories and that's too much??

>standing in line at the DMV
I don't know about you, but I don't talk to other people when I go to places like the DMV or the Post Office or federal buildings where you are all there for an obligation. Same thing with going to the grocery store and the like. I don't strike up conversations with randos ever. I'm just not into that.

I'm talking about going to meet ups and parties where people discuss stuff. You're going on some other kind of wild tangent.

Sorry but I think it's fucking sad that I have to act like I'm at work when I'm at a meet up so I can't talk about certain subjects cause you have to walk on eggshells. This isn't just in reference to conspiracy theory talk. You have to watch you mouth in regards to a lot of different topics at meets these days.

[Anonymous No.10056852]

>>10055944
As someone from bad neighborhoods, I've always found it funny when people who come from decent places want to come from bad neighborhoods. They would be in big trouble in no time. They have no clue what really goes on there. They just seem to think it's cool how tough those people are (at least the way we see them in the media). But those "cool and tough" people are like that for a reason, and it's not because it's simply so much fun.

[Anonymous No.10056853]

>>10056049
>Many also believe an item needs to be washed after every single wear and can't understand what undershirts are for.
At least part of it is lack of what should common knowledge regarding clothes then.

[Anonymous No.10056971]

>>10056581
Chinese comm needing to send back holy Latern dresses, in some cases twice, because of the horribly sewing (pretty much unwearable) after AP changed to a factory in Myanmar. This was also discussed in RC because some peopled feared the Japanese batches they bought from would be the same. There was also a batch of Holy Latern for Western or (Japanese but westeners bought it, can't remember) comm where the flock prints would fall of if you did wash it acourding to the tags.

Not all releases where bad past time, it's just a batch getting fucked up every now and then. But those two are just examples, there where more batches of dresses with quality issues and not all where Holly Latern. Also some re-release of dresses had way lower quality fabric than the originals but costed same price. Kinda sad when you bought it after seeing and falling in love with the original.

[Anonymous No.10056974]

>>10056581
I've found some screenshots of one of the Holy Latern back. Should have checked before posting but here you go.

[Anonymous No.10056978]

>>10056581
Again, just was just one issue. But there have been multiple releases who had bad batches last few year. Not all releases are bad, so it's not like all AP has been crap lately. Never the less, saying brand is always superior when these batches have been way more common than they should be last bit of time, that's just kinda stupid.

[Anonymous No.10057348]

>>10056971
That was this year?? This dress has been released so many times

[Anonymous No.10058847]

I confess I can’t stand this permaita in my city’s comm... and I feel super bad about it because I try to follow Buddhist precepts as much as possible. This girl has all the signs of being in lolita because it’s somewhat trendy, but what enrages me the most is her utter lack of research and awareness of how important that is for lolita. Her coords are a reflection of her lack of information, and excess of self-indulgence. I feel super tempted to post her on ita threads or any other spaces where I could see her get roasted... but I fight that urge, try to control myself... but every single coord she out-itas herself and I feel this way again.
I’m here because she got a replica and had the guts to post it in her “Lolita wardrobe” album. the rage just took over.

[Anonymous No.10059480]

>>10057348
The Chinese one was end 2017, although where send out late thanks to all the fixes and the wearable ones didn't arrive until begin 2018. And even the dresses they "fixed" weren't greatly sewn. One of the 2018 batches was the other bad one. Holy Latern was pretty much getting worse by the batch, and had to apologise and promise betterment because of all the complaints. Hope they actually do, and that's it's not going to be minimal not to get complaints, but I fear.

[Anonymous No.10059514]

>>10056501
Which taobao stores are the good ones then (other than Krad)?
I've purchased from these stores:
Dear Celine, Pumpkin Cat, Chess Story, Diamond Honey, HMHM, Yolanda, Lyre Ivy
They're all worse than brand to varying degrees (construction, fabric quality, print quality). The only time I've had the quality has been comparable was with a Dear Celine blouse and an AP blouse from a special set, which is understandable because of how cheap special sets are. I still like my purchases, but they're just not as good as brand.

>i feel the answer is more nuanced
If 80% of taobao store pieces are bad quality, and 80% of Japanese brand pieces are good quality, it makes sense for people to generalize. It's simpler that way especially when explaining to newbies.