Dutch Thread: "Dutch Comic Sinterklaas Student Fitness Con" Edition

[OP !Tully09Zss No.10038932]

Previous thread >>10013707
>What are some cons to check out just across the border
>Who are your favourite photographers?
>What's an acceptable turnaround time to deliver as a photographer?
>How the Dutch think of fat cosplayers and a predictable fitfags vs fatties fight
>The Fandom Weekend fallout continues and Heroesdome has been declared bankrupt
>Viencon 2019 has been announced: August 30th - September 2nd
>Where to buy Japanese magazines in the Netherlands?
>Comparing apples and oranges on a per hour basis
>The eternal sexy vs armour cosplays discussion
>Anon really hates gophers with a passion
>CosplayClues decided to close up shop, a ClueyFarewell to you all!
>Tweakers gaming happened. Main price? Loadsamoney!
>Who are the current big talented Dutch cosplayers?
>Using Stan Lee's death for shameless self-promotion
>Looking to buy: Custom made props for exposure
>Discount you, discount me, discount love is known to swing, prone to cling and waste these things

The five next major events:
>Castlefest Winter Edition (November 24th & 25th, Lisse ZH): The winter edition of everyone's favorite con that combines castles and fests.
>Heroes DCC (November 24th & 25th, Utrecht UT): The winter edition of Heroes Comic Con.
>Moshi Moshi Fair (December 15th & 16th, Amsterdam NH): A special Christmas edition of Moshi Moshi Fair which takes place simultaneously with the Sushi Festival Amsterdam
>TomoFair (Januari 5th & th, Amsterdam NH): Dealers, some games, yadda yadda.
>JaapCon 2 (December 28th, Beverwijk NH): the sequel to a joke meetup.
Full list: https://dutchgulls.nl/en/agenda/

Links and advice:
>POSTS MADE IN DUTCH ARE AGAINST SITE-WIDE RULES AND WILL BE DELETED!
>Defending yourself on /cgl/ often only makes things worse. It's best to take things posted here lightly and move on.
>Just because there is a sale doesn't mean you have to buy things.
>Our site with a store list, newcomers guide and more: https://dutchgulls.nl/
>Our Discord: https://discord.gg/QAYNyfY

[Anonymous No.10038945]

>>10038932
>Just because there is a sale doesn't mean you have to buy things.

o...oh... damn.

[Anonymous No.10039040]

Yeah I spend a little more than I wanted on wigs...while I haven't worn a cosplay in half a year.

[Anonymous No.10039505]

So here is the full schedule for DCC this weekend. Anything in particular you're looking forward to or got any specific stuff you're hoping to find int he dealer room?

[Anonymous No.10039509]

>>10039505
Excited for the cosplay catwalk and contest. Too bad they do prize ceremony at the very end of the day.
Might check out led workshop.

[Anonymous No.10039542]

>>10039509
Do you have to sign-up beforehand for the LEDworkshop?

[Anonymous No.10039546]

>>10039509
>Too bad they do prize ceremony at the very end of the day.
Yeah that does suck, especially with there being so little to do. I guess DCC really wants to keep the contestants on-site all day to serve as eye candy for their visitors or something.

>>10039542
>Do you have to sign-up beforehand for the LEDworkshop?
Not that anon, but DCC's site has no information on the DCC College events. But based on other cons hosting LED workshops, it is likely you'll have to sign up and pay a small to participate.

[Anonymous No.10039699]

>>10039509
I hope the catwalk will be fun. I heard and saw on Facebook that the BNHA meet people are opening it with an act they're making on that day?? I hope it won't be cringey but it probably will. I don't even know what an anime like that has to do with a COMIC con.

[Anonymous No.10039761]

>>10039546
> guess DCC really wants to keep the contestants on-site all day to serve as eye candy for their visitors or something.
Jokes on them, I'm getting out of my cosplay as soon as the contest is over

>>10039542
I suppose you can ask at the booth beforehand. There's usually limited spots at something like that. I doubt I'll learn anything new desu.

[Anonymous No.10039804]

>>10039505
Is there a list for the artist alley?

[Anonymous No.10040240]

>>10039804
No, but Cyarin is there.

[Anonymous No.10040242]

>>10040240
Nobody cares about bootleg Loish

[Anonymous No.10040343]

>>10039804
Here, straight from http://www.dutchcomiccon.com/nl/Programma/Floorplan_Dealer_Hall

[Anonymous No.10040344]

>>10040343
>de billenmaatjes
amen

[Anonymous No.10040553]

People are getting scammed trying to get saturday tickets.
The salty tears go so well on my popcorn.

[Anonymous No.10040559]

Viencon just announced bookings for their 2019 edition will open on Friday the 30th of November. Let's see if they brought back the VIP cottages!

[Anonymous No.10040614]

Soo..Jaapcon is coming back?

[Anonymous No.10040683]

>>10040242
Loish has good coloring but im not in her design style. I like Cyarine her work more.

[Anonymous No.10041051]

Am I the only one who is laughing at all those people who are desperate to buy a DCC Saturday ticket two days for the event, when they had all the time in the world?

[Anonymous No.10041071]

>>10041051
Nope. This is hilarious.

[Anonymous No.10041074]

>>10041051
I love all the bullshit stories people are posting where they try to turn their inability to plan ahead into a Greek tragedy. You know, stories like “I wanted to take my anxiety driven autistic brother to DCC but now we can’t go because they ran out of tickets!” where they are trying to make others pity them and hand them a spare ticket. It’s not as if DCC made several posts over the last week warning people they were almost sold out of Saturday tickets or anything...

[Anonymous No.10041076]

>>10041074

Is this actually anything new. Each sold out con has crybabies about sold out/expensive tickets/hotels/travels.

Logical you want the best deal or want to go but indeed. Plan ahead, buy early and book early as well. Save money. If you can buy merch, a camera/lens or a whole cosplay.. you could have bought a cheap saturday ticket.

[Anonymous No.10041082]

>>10041076
Of course it happens with every con, although this is the first time DCC sold out of Saturday tickets and they do attract more normies. I guess that explains why I see more “marktplaats-level” sob stories over the typical “I was broke EKSDEE” excuses this time around.

Honestly though, the majority of the whiners are those who still hadn’t decided if they should go or not and are now only complaining because the choice has been made for them. In the end they probably wouldn’t had gone anyway.

[Anonymous No.10041574]

>>10041071
I actually got my tickets cheaper than the Weekendticket by buying a seperate Saturday and Sunday ticket on Ticketswap beforehand.

[Anonymous No.10041665]

>>10041051
Nope its funny as hell. I'm sorry but I do not feel sad for them. Buying a ticket 2 days before con is stupid anyways and it's not like DCC did not warn already like a million times.

[Anonymous No.10041810]

>Be me, building the stand for DCC.
>Anon takes a break and looks around.
>
>Frickin.
>Bootleg.
>Everywhere...

This shit ain't funny, especially since they had me sign for a no bootleg policy.

[Anonymous No.10041814]

>>10041810
I can't say I'm surprised anon, just one look at the dealer list is enough to spot several notorious bootleg sellers. I do wonder what would happen if people start reporting bootlegs to the staff considering you had to sign a no bootleg policy paper.

[Anonymous No.10041825]

>>10041814
They'll say whoever it is that they're not responsible for it and that they don't know which person would be the one responsible to report it to.

[Anonymous No.10042067]

>>10041825
As a convention organiser you can´t claim ignorance on the fact that your clients are committing an economic delict. and selling bootlegs or allowing that bootlegs are being sold by third parties is certainly an economic delict.

[Anonymous No.10042081]

Jullie weten toch wel dat Zwarte Piet racistisch is?

[Anonymous No.10042083]

You do know that Zwarte Piet is racist, right?

[Anonymous No.10042107]

>>10042083
Minorities can't be racist

[Anonymous No.10042341]

>>10042067
No, but random voluntary crew people can. Goodluck finding the right guy to report it to.

[Anonymous No.10042442]

>>10042341
The Show Manager is listed in the DCC booklet: sounds like a great start.

[Anonymous No.10042978]

Where are all the dcc (spoiler)upskirt(/spoiler) pics?

[Anonymous No.10042989]

>>10042978
On my phone, I'll PM you them ;-)

[Anonymous No.10042993]

>>10042978
Got this one right here, this thot didn't even wore a skirt!

[Anonymous No.10043051]

Hope you all had fun! I've been out of the hobby for 5 years or so but I always get giddy when I see cosplayers at Utrecht Centraal.

[Anonymous No.10043095]

Sinterklaasfest mothers be like 'hey kids look at all these WEIRD/QUIRKY outfits they are wearing!'
We can hear you, enjoy your line for the parking tickets

[Anonymous No.10043429]

>>10042993
Is that plakband around a fire hose? That would be a solid reason for a write up.
Never block a fire hose with anything.

[Anonymous No.10043431]

>>10042083
The Sinterklaas at DCC was Pierre (black guy, kom je ook naar..) whitefacing. (This is not a joke btw.) the zwarte piet who joins him is a white guy.

[Anonymous No.10043443]

How was the competition on both days?

[Anonymous No.10043468]

>>10043443
Pretty cool, although i felt like sitting through the catwalk and a stretched out competition afterwards was too long, let alone if you had to stand in the back. Backstage was difficult to reach as crowd continually blocked it and no attempt was made to shove people.

Winners saturday
Best overall: delightifycosplay (Brigitte)
Best costume: willow creative (Nex)
Best act: duo act demycosplay (not sure what their cosplay was)
Honorable mentions: kalseru cosplay (witchdoctor) and one Aloy i dont know the name of

Winners sunday
Overall winners: duo act sakuraflor and multifluffyness cosplay (hots johanna/valla)
Best costume: Khal Drogo and khaleesi Game of Thrones (idk cosplay names)
Best act: Maleficent movie version (idk cosplay name)
Honorable mentions: kalseru cosplay (arrakoa outcast), elisa_prey (kassandra assassins creed), rubendelight (junkrat)

[Anonymous No.10043471]

>>10043468
>Saku winning the main price at a compo organised by a team she's a part off.
Cue drama!

[Anonymous No.10043479]

Trust me, Sakuflor is not going to be the center of attention with that book the HC deadpool gave to cosplay competitors.

and especially the ´edgy humor´ inside it.

[Anonymous No.10043489]

>>10043471
She’s not a part of DCC nor HC.

[Anonymous No.10043492]

>>10043489
The HC site says otherwise: http://hype-creations.com/team/

[Anonymous No.10043495]

This whole Hype Creations thing is just a bootleg Team Chaos 2.0 or something.. The Deadpool dude I kinda like, but Fluffly, Saku and Sammy I think aren't honestly that great for what they advertise themselves to be.

[Anonymous No.10043517]

>>10043492
I asked them about it. HC is like a talent agency. They have cosplayers to their disposal when they get asignments or gig so they have a portfolio of cosplayers they can contact when they get gigs. Or that’s what I understood from it. But It’s not like the cosplayers on the site are part of the organization.

[Anonymous No.10043518]

>>10043495
I actually kinda appreciate the three of them. They’re positive and sincere. The what you see is what you get type. Especially after meeting them at DCC they’re really just exactly how they portray themselves on social media. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Anonymous No.10043519]

>>10043495
They're the ones that are actually likeable but you prefer the Deadpool?

[Anonymous No.10043521]

>>10043495
The only thing I don't like about Sammy is that sometimes her cosplays are a bit inaccurate to the character. But overall, I like the quality of them.

[Anonymous No.10043522]

>>10043471
Judges are invited cosplayers and they determine the winners. They're not part of the organisation.

[Anonymous No.10043542]

This book was handed out to cosplay contestants at DCC. Absolutely based and redpilled.

[Anonymous No.10043553]

>>10043542

It was apparently written by your Deadpool cosplayer. That guy is fucked up in the head if he sees any humor in this. I wonder what went wrong with him, but he should apologise to every tree and plant, which are working so hard to make the oxygen he breathes, and this is what he does with it.
Making fun of genocide is never acceptable.

[Anonymous No.10043556]

>>10043518
Wait so they are overly hyped barely dressed sluts in real life to? Please tell me they are single

[Anonymous No.10043557]

>>10043542
I'm going to fill in a complaint about this and tell DCC that HC is only giving them negative bullshit. This deadpool "host" does shit like this every edition and now they crossed the line imo.

>>10043443
The cosplayers itself were great, the team behind it was sloppy.

[Anonymous No.10043558]

>>10043542
What a waste of paper

[Anonymous No.10043573]

>>10043518

Depends on what you like. They just seem like your basic trio of desperate cosplayers. Throwing Koffi, patreon, making themself look great, meet and greet i heard ?, sometimes a bit thotlike, flor acting like an old granny clinging onto her old fame, doing tiktok..., sammy trying to grab a piece of that dried out old cake of Flor her reputation. Fluffy.. meh. Not my type of person but i just heard about her so i base my opinion for now on her cosplay circle she has chosen now.

[Anonymous No.10043579]

>>10043573
This sounds like sad excuses. You don’t have to like them but I think they’re doing great for themselves each on their own way. Yes they do sexy cosplays but they have all proven talented in crafting as well. And KoFi and patreon and such are understandable if you’re trying to make a living of cosplay. Not trying to white knight here but out of all the cosplayers you can bash in the dutch community I think those three are at least the most sincere and honest ones.

[Anonymous No.10043586]

>>10043579
I really don't think trying to make a living of cosplay is helping by doing the shit they did at DCC and delivering inaccurate cosplays. Winning a competition that's partly hosted by your ''team'' isn't necessarily honest or sincere imo. I believe they're acting as if they're better than they actually are.

[Anonymous No.10043589]

>>10043586
Inaccurate cosplays? Part of the team? I think you’ve got some things mixed anon. Apparently the “inaccurate” cosplays weren’t that inaccurate according to an international panel of judges. Next to that everyone knows flor isn’t part of DCC in any way. But if that’s the excuse you need to decredit their winning. I would like to hear who should have won in your opinion. Because from what I’ve seen they actually deserved it.

[Anonymous No.10043594]

>>10043589
Aren't they all part of Hype Creations which were actually hosting the competitions? So in a way, they are connected aren't they?

[Anonymous No.10043595]

saku is friends with daisy tho one of the judges. seems all unfair that she won plus a member of the organisatorteam

[Anonymous No.10043599]

>>10043594
No they’re not. You should read the comments above where someone explained.

Having said that even if they were the judges were still a panel of internationals who have nothing to do with the organization.

[Anonymous No.10043600]

>>10043589
To be fair, besides the cosplays they wore to the con, some they shoot offcon with are actually inaccurate as hell. Can't deny that and i don't think it deserves the ''fame'' they're getting.

[Anonymous No.10043602]

>>10043595
Saku is friends with everyone. It took her exactly 5 minutes to become friends with all of the backstage contestants she’s just that kind of person.

Besically you are saying the judges are biased? They don’t judge fair?

[Anonymous No.10043605]

>>10043599
How are they not if they're literally on the hype creations website lol http://hype-creations.com/team/

[Anonymous No.10043609]

I don’t even feel like referring to the exact comment that explained this above cus I’m lazy and people need to learn how to read.

[Anonymous No.10043610]

>>10043609
In the time you took to type this you could've easily referred to it but you do you

[Anonymous No.10043611]

>>10043517
It's a bit misleading if they place the cosplayers underneath their ''Our Team'' page so I can totally understand the confusion

[Anonymous No.10043612]

>>10043610
I could but then again people don’t care about facts do they. It’s a game of “He said she said” all the time even if proven differently. Any sad excuses to decredit others. But what I’m actually interested in is who they would think should’ve won then.

[Anonymous No.10043614]

>>10043612
no need to be so incredibly pissy wow

[Anonymous No.10043619]

>>10043614
I’m not being pissy at all. I’m just curious. I’m not a huge fan of either of them but I do find them one of the nicer cosplayers and don’t feel like they deserve the hate at all.

[Anonymous No.10043620]

How do yall seriously care about saku when the deadpool book drama is going on. As well as the terrible PR manager that tried to deflate the drama on cosplayNL

[Anonymous No.10043630]

>>10043619
I really don't think it's fullblown hate. It's just others sharing their thoughts. It's not as if they're being personally attacked or something

[Anonymous No.10043636]

>>10043630
Discretioning cosplayers and calling them thots, sluts and such sounds like hate to me. That’s not even worthy of being called an opinion. Especially not when it concerns people like them who in my opinion are what this community needs more of. Sincere and positive cosplayers.

[Anonymous No.10043638]

>>10043620
I assume with "PR Manager" you mean one of the admins? :')

[Anonymous No.10043641]

>>10043602
You mean, she is just that fake?

[Anonymous No.10043642]

>>10043636
You might need to change your definition of sincere and positive then. Besides, what do you expect on anonymous sites like these? Shouldn't be that much of a surprise.

[Anonymous No.10043645]

>>10043553
>Making fun of genocide is never acceptable.
Holy shit it's like I'm on Tumblr.

[Anonymous No.10043647]

>>10043641
Fake because? Have you met her? She’s extremely hyper yes but she isn’t fake

[Anonymous No.10043652]

>>10043595
Daisy and Imriel actually, they are a couple.
So that is already 2 judges

[Anonymous No.10043658]

>>10043647
So ALL the stories and rumors about her are blatant lies and made-up?

[Anonymous No.10043659]

Brb going to the newspaper with this. They're going to love this book and all it's reactions.

[Anonymous No.10043661]

>>10043658
I’m so curious about these stories. Where’s the juice?

[Anonymous No.10043662]

Well.. i know Sakuraflor is also on 4chan/4chan Discord but this is some whiteknighting. She has better social and PR skills or "team" but it is clearly fake. We can throw all kinds of studies in regards of friends/friendship vs number of people but fake social kindness is what wins the day. No one in the cosplay community cares for genuine kindness or friendships when growing or trying to make it. Just find the bigger fish, leech from it or devour it, try to wiggle out drama with your fake kindness till you get what you want. Works for movie stars and artists.

Short version. I aint no fan of her or her squad but cant blame them for being fake and using what they can to have some fame.

[Anonymous No.10043663]

Why is everyone defending saku rn while y'all only talked shit about her when she was still in team chaos?

[Anonymous No.10043664]

Y'all gon' get this thread deleted again

[Anonymous No.10043665]

>>10043662
I find this short sighted. Then again I used to believe this when it was said on 4chan before about her until I met her this weekend at DCC. She’s annoying with her hyperness but she’s sincere. Even the people around her say she’s just like that always. There’s nothing fake about it just annoying.

[Anonymous No.10043667]

>>10043665
But when someone else does the exact same thing, it suddenly isn't shortsighted, right?

[Anonymous No.10043670]

>>10043665
How can you even know somebody is ‘sincere’ after meeting them once?
This is not directed at Saku. But in general.

Thinking you know somebody after seeing them once/twice, is really naive

[Anonymous No.10043672]

>>10043663
>>10043662
I don't understand it either. When someone does the exact same stuff Saku does they get roasted and hated on, but now it's suddenly okay?

[Anonymous No.10043673]

>>10043662
What is so fake about her then? Can you fake kindness like that? Or are all kind cosplayers fake?

[Anonymous No.10043674]

I'm more worried about the amount of trash dcc photos. Taken indoors with flash or something? I don't even know.

[Anonymous No.10043675]

>>10043674
All dem exposed bodyparts and shiny wigs

[Anonymous No.10043676]

>>10043672
Saku is always being bashed on here but also defended. I guess her “fake” kindness makes her a too much of a likeable person for her to just be bashed so hello whiteknights

[Anonymous No.10043681]

>>10043676
This really appears to be the case

[Anonymous No.10043709]

>>10043647
Yes I can say I have had my personal experience with her

[Anonymous No.10043711]

>>10043674
From what I've seen is that nearly all photographers were shooting inside with these windows at the entrance, so hence why nearly all pictures look like trash. The lightning was crap and most people didn't want to go outside since it was too cold. I don't know why they put more effort into finding something else that worked better, but maybe with all these normies and low budget cosplays they probably didn't think it was even worth the effort.

[Anonymous No.10043715]

>>10043674
>I'm more worried about the amount of trash dcc photos. Taken indoors with flash or something? I don't even know.
What else did you expect? The entire con took place in four large halls in which you have zero natural light and inadequate artificial lighting. To get your exposure right in those conditions without going overly soft, blurred or grainy pretty much requires to use of a flash, a skill the average visitor simply does not possess. Even then on-site you’re limited to taking fugly “cosplayers standing in a dealer room type of situation” shots or using one of the grey/black-ish walls as a background, hence why the majority of pictures so far just look horrible.

[Anonymous No.10043726]

>>10043674
I've actually seen quite a couple of nice shots on Instagram.

[Anonymous No.10043815]

>>10043674
Indoors, no chance of getting anything of quality done. I've seen people shooting in the parking garage with some nice results, though. I guess its always a bit of a hard thing to find good spots for shoots at the DCC location.

[Anonymous No.10043837]

Can anyone tell me more about the broken prop that happened Sunday at DCC? I heard that the person doing the props made a major mistake but I want more popcorn material.

[Anonymous No.10043842]

>>10043837
Actually heard it wasn't the prop person's fault but the host's? I did not see what happened, but these things tend to end up in people pointing their fingers in all kinds of directions.

[Anonymous No.10043865]

>>10043842
It wasn't her fault. Her "friend" was just a dick about it and made it seem like it was her fault towards Hakan. I and another participant heard a bit of the conversation when someone told Hakan what really had happened.

[Anonymous No.10043888]

>>10043645
I believe there is a whole different range between understanding genocide and why humor about it, especially on the level written like this, is unacceptable, and what Tumblr finds unacceptable. The distinction is really not that hard. Please educate yourself.

[Anonymous No.10043903]

>>10043888
As someone who was actually backstage. They placed the things on stage and told the hosts they would be there twice for both skits. Skull kid and marvel. And both times the hosts ignored it and broke the stage props in their routine.

[Anonymous No.10043916]

>>10043903
the time in between acts should be for building up the stage with props, not for stealing the spotlight from the cosplayers as a host. so this is very sloppy to me.

Being obnoxious on stage AND ruining props of competitors AND the book scandal.They should get rid of this guy.

[Anonymous No.10043918]

>>10043715

Sounds like lack of quality from the cosplayer and photographer. Many are also lazy as fuck or dont have the balls to walk more than 100 metres for a photo or look for a good place to shoot. Quantity over quality.

And with a bit of creative thinking you can also get cool indoor shots.

[Anonymous No.10043927]

>>10043916
That was also why the other person got mad. Not at the propgirl with the papiers

[Anonymous No.10043932]

>>10043673

Ofcourse you can fake kindness. In this community faking kindness has been an unspoken rule for a long time. The moment you voice a harsh opinion which even has facts and proof to support it people flock to the "kind" and "poor" soul if the person has this vibe around them.

The more fake kindness you emit, the more people will like you and thus you can grow to a point where it is obvious and their true colours are shown and they crack.

That doesnt mean there are a few genuine kind people out there but the attitude of this community would make it very hard to be the nice positive person.

Give me a good cosplayer with a hars but honest opinion / facts instead of a kind only type of cosplayer.

Besides that. Sakuraflor, Sammy and fluffy just seems like a group of all kinds of people to be honest. Saku the kind it seems, Sammy the bland/generic so Saku stands out more and miss sassy body positive so the fatties can also relate. They only miss a well toned gay guy who is a bullied nerd and you got a group consisting of almost each type residing in the cosplay community.

[Anonymous No.10043938]

>>10043932
This is exactly what is wrong with our community. People like you. The second cosplayers put out positive vibes there’s people like you who question their sincerity.

Have you ever thought that they might just be nice? Kindness can be faked but not forever. Both fluffy and Sakuraflor have been in the scene for a long time if their kindness were fake it would’ve shown through. Instead they seem to be gaining more likeability. Their reactions are sincere you don’t fake that kind of thing unless you’re a really good actress and if that’s the case they chose the wrong profession.

[Anonymous No.10043953]

I'm just gonna sit here and wait until I'll be called fake on this board one day.

[Anonymous No.10043962]

>>10043953
that's pretty fake of you

[Anonymous No.10043969]

Don't bring community vendettas onto this board. Singling out individual cosplayers for the purposes of trolling them will not be tolerated.