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Dresses, skirts, anything that isn't ita, but is lolita, and ends a good distance above the knee.

I see a lot of girls complaining about dresses being too short if the dress is above the knee, but often times it does look good.

Peeking bloomers coords are accepted as long as you can definitely tell the dress ends above the knee, but not required. I'm just looking for inspiration as I am a taller girl and most of my AP is mid-thigh on me. I see other girls rocking the look, especially in some old school pictures.

What do you think of shorter skirts/dresses? Is it always ita, or are there exceptions? Underskirts don't really look all too great with a lot of dresses, so what can be done to make shorter skirts/dresses work?

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>>10017401
I actually love this image, and while I'm sure a lot of people would say it was too slutty, or whatever, I think it's really cute, and still feels really doll-like and sweet. Granted, I'd wear the fuck out of some bloomers, but they can be short bloomers and hide, the look is still super cute to me.

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>>10017401
The people who say that short skirts are always ita are the same people who say that black x white is always ita. They are usually young, inexperienced, and are just repeating stuff they read in rufflechat comments.

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I definitely think tights work to preserve modesty if you don't want to be flashing your thighs, but desu I think showing thigh with okt socks looks nice.

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>>10017422
Woops, this was the picture I meant to post in that last one, but both pics fit the topic.

>> No.10017426

>>10017404
It's basically because most people you see nowadays that tries to pull off the short skirts look are people that either:
a) aren't doing it tastefully, as it still has to look elegant and lolita, it's not too uncommon that they add "slutty" element like a garter,
or b) are wearing a dress/skirt that is obviously too small in size and thus look bad all around because of the horrible fit, some cases it barely even covering their ass

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Another option is wearing fishnets or lace tights under knee socks or otks. I always hear girls bitching about fishnets not being lolita, but there are a lot of old school photos with them and I think they work really well, especially with gothic.

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>>10017431
I love the tights under otks or utks look. Helps keep the socks up too if you're out of sock glue

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>> No.10017444

>>10017401
I love short skirts and dresses! It's most common in old-school, punk and gothic, but I think it looks nice with classic and sweet too.

>> No.10017450

>>10017426
yeah ok.

>implying gulls don't scream "degenerate" for no real reason when there is a short skirt

I see garters in other j fashions more than I see it in lolita and I see way more anons "ree-ing" over shorts skirts that are just short more than I see the garters you speak of that are supposedly setting people off.

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>> No.10017465

I think shorter lolita dresses can still be worn in beautiful lolita coordinates, thank you for confirming my idea with this nice thread!

I have some short dress myself... but sadly I've never been able to make them work. I think one of my issues is that I can't recreate the right silhoutte. The puff always looks wrong, somehow. /sad

>> No.10017469

>>10017465
is it possible you're wearing the wrong petticoat with those dresses?

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Almost tempted to self post since I'm tall enough that most lolita dresses (unless they're specifically long) will be short on me.
In the meantime, I'll post what I have.

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>>10017475

>> No.10017477

>>10017475
dump your pics in the middle of another dump so no one knows which you are

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>>10017476
Although I don't really think I'd wear this coord, I saved it because I like to have reassurance that it's okay to wear dresses that aren't knee length.

>> No.10017483

>>10017477
That's good thinking, if only that last post wasn't the end of my dump. Maybe next time.

>> No.10017487

>>10017469
I thought about that, maybe I'll drop some pics in the coord help or stupid questions.

Talking about wrong petticoats, I think this one >>10017478 has really something wrong going on. The coord is beautiful but the skirt part of the dress has a weird shape, especially near the waist... maybe the petticoat is too big?

>> No.10017488

>>10017483
scroll down twitter or insta and find more pics and then dump
please we need fresh pics we always post the same things over and over

>> No.10017499

>>10017422
dream coord omg

>> No.10017513

>>10017487
It has one of those tulle overdress things in black so that might be what makes it look weird at first?

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I'll dump what I have! Old school gives hope to this tall bitch

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>> No.10017530

>>10017434
I always do this in the winter to stay warm

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>> No.10017564

>>10017409
I adore the middle one

>> No.10017568

>>10017409
This was what lolita was when I joined. Not old school, but still very much lolita. No larme/fairy kei overlap, but still with those slight gyaru influences. I love everything about this, especially the middle girl.

t. old lolita shakes fist at cloud

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Dumping

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>> No.10017594

>>10017463
who is this? i followed her blog years ago and one day it was just entirely gone. i liked her coords

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>>10017587
Pic related is the era of lolita I joined during, and having

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>>10017599
Fuck, I submitted before finishing my sentence.

>having a tiny bit of exposed knee was considered super cute in sweet.

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And that's it for me. Didn't have as many as I thought.

>> No.10017651

>>10017596
Cheap looking tights and headdress and bag makes no sense..

>> No.10017654

>>10017600
Cute in an office lady kind of way
>>10017599
I loved it until I looked closer. Look at all those pettis hanging out. The flabby legs and chicken legs. The awful shine of many of the wigs. The group as a whole looks good but so many individual itas

>> No.10017655

>>10017654
gr8 b8 m8

>> No.10017656

>>10017651
this isn't a concrit thread

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>> No.10017746

Thanks for all these pictures, anons. This thread gives me life.

>> No.10017794

>>10017656
don't reply to it, theres always one loser who complains about this chick

>> No.10017905

>>10017463
>>10017594
Isn't that sniper_nyan?

>> No.10017906

>>10017794
>>10017794
There's more than one salty anon who hates her and there are good reasons for people to dislike her.
>she wears unflattering dresses and then lies about shooping them into the shape she wants
>claims its all corsetry as if we can't see when she's done her legs and arms too
>has an ego the size of a planet
>thirsty girls always post her coords as examples of "good coords" even when they're very mediocre just because of the halo effect
>her Kim K makeup doesn't match the look most of the time but she never does anything different, even in sweet
>The whole sexy vibe she goes for rubs a lot of people the wrong way, if she's so worried about her sex appeal then why is she in this fashion?
I was unhappy to see her posted here again and I'm not even one of the usual salt-chans.

>> No.10017909

>>10017906
Someone thought she looked good, I agree, and she fit the theme. Your answer doesn't so take it elsewhere instead of cluttering the thread with off topic comments.

>> No.10017996

>>10017429
Brown dress looks a bit funny though? A really long bodice but short skirt. Not really flattering.

>> No.10018030

>>10017996
It's a salopette I think

>> No.10018116

>>10017906
who fucking cares, you sound like a teenager. don't like her outfits? grow up and move on. Dropping this topic because it's just going to shit up the thread.

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I guess the whole idea that lolita dresses need to be at the knee came from all the lolita rules people made back in the day to help newbies. Kinda like black/white = ita. Before then, there were tons of cute shorter dress coords that were super cute. I still think it's really cute, and I think overall the idea of having to add an underskirt it dumb. Underskirts don't always go with every dress, plus they add another layer and make the outfit feel more OTT.

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>>10018131
cryptkasper is a taller lolita and has a bunch of coords with shorter dresses. She always gives me a lot of hope and confidence in wearing my dresses because mine are pretty freaking short on me as well.

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>>10018135

>> No.10018180

>>10017656
OP said no ita coords though, this girl is always one nitpick away from being an ita

>> No.10018203

>>10018180
Nayrt but nitpicks are still not the same thing as ita.

>> No.10018246

>>10017691
i have no oldschool frens to dress oldschool with in my comm and this pic makes me want one soooo badddddd

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>>10018254

>> No.10018261

Can we post tall lolitas IG handles?

>> No.10018289

>>10018261
cryptkasper is the only one I know of.

>> No.10018298

>>10018289
tall lolita masterlist go!
...so far we have cryptkasper, wistywish, chokelate (even though she's barely a lolita anymore), koyama_mai (not sure whether she's tall or just wears small things, since she seems to be the same height as her friends).

Is that really it? I'd be overjoyed to see any insperation no matter who, so long as they're well dressed: I don't have much to follow.

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>>10018298
There's thingsweneverdid (pic related) but she seems to be favoring longer dresses lately.

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>> No.10018400

>>10018119
What dress is this

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Is CDC actually really short or does it seem to just attract tallitas?

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>>10018402
Exhibit B.

>>10018400
nayrt but that's Cafeteria Doll

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This is probably cheating because it's a salopette but I feel like the styling is overwhelmingly lolita.

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>> No.10018424

>>10018261
What are we considering tall? Just taller than the average Asian girl?

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>>10018254
I think this is the only pic in the whole thread I don't particularly like. Despite wearing a lolita dress, the whole thing feels way too... not-lolita. The hair styling, the tights. Just not my style, I guess.

>> No.10018443

>>10018402
>>10018405
Being a tall lolita myself, I'd say the dress is about average length for most dresses, so I'm guessing it just attracts the tall girls. lol

>> No.10018444

>>10018424
That's kind of what it seems like based on this thread.

>> No.10018468

>>10018444
This isn't a tall lolita thread, it's a short dresses thread.

>> No.10018481

>>10017458
who is this girl? saw her pic in a different thread

>> No.10018629

>>10018395
Damn, thick thighs sure do save lives.

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>>10018468
Dresses are shorter or taller lolitas.

>> No.10018647

>>10017409
I am 90% sure my friend has that exact strawberry bag hanging up on her wall.

>> No.10018651

>>10018647
Not impossible, if not real DoL have made a nasty replica of it too.

>> No.10018672

>>10018298
koyama_mai is a taller than average for a lolita but she is finnish and her friends who are the same height are also on the tall side. those nordic genes. she has a big funny shaped head that make her height even harder to tell from pics too

>> No.10018673

>>10018298
Fahr

>>10018481
Fahr

>> No.10018678

>>10018673
Away

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>>10018678
Where they should stay desu

>> No.10018758

>>10018298
>>10018672
Her IG profile says she's 168cm.

>> No.10018763

>>10018402
I own it. it is shorter than most of my AP dresses.

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>>10018758
Huh. I'm 170 and even my Moitié (which is all short as hell) doesn't hit as high as her stuff. She must have really long legs.

>> No.10018787

>>10018776
I wouldn't say this dress is short, just shows a bit of knee, that's not unusual for a standard lolita dress.

>> No.10018806

>>10017401
Y'know after browsing this thread and not having been into Lolita, I can definitely say this is my favorite style.
It's sort of like a compromise between full on Lolita and modern styles.

>> No.10018812

>>10018806
oh.....

>> No.10018852

>>10018806
What? Just because there's a little more kneecap?

>> No.10018857

>>10018852
Yeah, honestly no idea why but it feels like it goes from "elegant and formal" to "cool and classy"

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>>10018672
She's so cute.

>> No.10018924

>>10018857
You definitely have to be careful, depending on your substyle. Super sweet dresses showing a lot of leg always get ragged on for being the "wrong type of Lolita."

>> No.10018935

>>10018924
>always
There are several examples of sweet with shorter dresses and skirts up thread that don't look like "the wrong type of Lolita" whatsoever, and no one claimed they did. It ultimately goes down to styling and fit, and if someone looks like a sissy in lolita then the short dress look is probably just not for them.

>> No.10018979

>>10018935
>upthread
If you look at any other thread that isn't dedicated to short dresses, yeah, you're going to get those comments.

>> No.10019045

>>10018672
>>10018776
she takes photos from very low angles to make her legs look longer. she's not tall at all.

>> No.10019064

>>10018758
Isn't that pretty tall, though?

>> No.10019087

>>10019064
Depends on where you live... it's 5'6", and is the average height for women in most of Europe... slightly taller than average for women in the US.

>> No.10019092

>>10019087
It's much taller than the Japanese average though.

>> No.10019102

>>10019092
And yet she's not Japanese. Like I said, it depends on where you live.

>> No.10019119

>>10019045
This. Though tall isn't clearly defined so it's all relative. She's probably tall in Japan.

>> No.10019121

>>10017906
Well she's a lolita, so she's gonna get posted.

>sexy vibe

what?? Where are you getting that from?

>> No.10019235

>>10019064
If 168cm is pretty tall, I must be a giant at 177cm...

>> No.10019272

>>10017906
Where's the proof?

>> No.10019275

>>10019235
Well, yes?

>> No.10019285

>>10018298
cryptkasper is like barely 165cm. She's been to a lot of meets I've attended. That's pretty average western height. Her shoes really add height and change how she stands, it makes the dresses look even shorter.

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>>10019285
Wow, I would have expected her to be much taller, based on her pics. I absolutely love her coords, although I do find that sometimes because of the combo of her height / oldschool pieces being shorter, she ends up looking pretty unbalanced in terms of volume. It's kind of the opposite of when huge poof (or fattychans) are paired with no volume in hair or headwear. For example, while the pieces themselves are gorgeous together, pic related looks odd because there's a lot of volume up top yet very little on the bottom.

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>>10019352
I find coords like this one look tons better, since the volume of the lace on her socks helps balance it out.

>> No.10019355

>>10019087
>>10019092
>>10019102
>>10019119
Average height in Japan and the rest of East Asia is around 5'2'' for women (157cm). I'm Asian and me, all the women in my family, and all my Asian friends are no taller than 5'3'' for sure. My white American friends are probably around 5'4'' on average, I would definitely consider 5'6'' to be actively tall. Even more so for lolita, since it makes sense to go by Japanese standards in this context.

>> No.10019643

>>10018435
God damn, what is this dress? I love it.

>> No.10019646

>>10017424
Get a new outfit or stop taking pictures in the same one and expecting people to care.
So old, so redundant, such crap.

>> No.10019659

>>10019646
not that anon, but that isn't a similar outfit to one she normally tends to wear...

>> No.10019660

i'm 177cm and all of my shit looks super short. I always feel great in it in the mirror, but whenever I see myself in pictures it looks TOO SHORT.

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>>10019659
>black skirt
>same hairstyle
>same headpiece/accessory style
>same cardigan top
>same black utk/tights & shoes combo
>same make up
She is beyond redundant. She has a skirt she posts coords in 80% of the time. I get it, she likes the skirt, but I hate seeing her post the same old shit over and over again looking for asspats. She's like zoolander where she has one look, it looks great, but it's all she ever does.

>pic related

>> No.10019665

>>10019660
Damn it, typo 187*

>> No.10019670

>>10019660
I feel you anon, I'm 180 and usually my stuff looks good when I see it in the mirror, but whenever I see pictures it looks too short. Probably because of the angle I see it at vs the angle of the camera. either way, it's disheartening.

I love many pictures in this thread, but the common denominator in all of them are that the girls are thin and have nice thin thighs. My thighs aren't fat, just thick and it looks bad.

Any pictures of thick-thigh lolitas in short dresses/skirts (who aren't ita)?

>> No.10019746

>>10019663
This is the second time I've seen someone try to pass off advice from a shitty Ben Stiller movie.
I would not be surprised if you're the same anon from months ago.

>> No.10019779

>>10018441
she styled it in a vintage direction, i don't like it at all.

>> No.10019780

>>10019660
Get your tall friends to take your photo or have them stand on something. Angles make a huge difference.

>> No.10019781

>>10019780
Sadly I'm the tall one.

>> No.10019811

>>10019746
>two people couldn't possibly have the same opinion
Sorry you got posted.
Buy a new outfit.

>> No.10019813

>>10019811
funny how you can use a played out meme but how dare someone wear their clothing more than once for a photo.

>> No.10019828

>>10019660
Lean a bit forward into the camera so that the curvature of the skirt leans away from the camera.
Or adopt looks that show off the leggy, such as peeking bloomers with shorter skirts.
Source: am the tall friend

>> No.10020200

>>10017450
I'm 1,80 and all jpn brand comes mid-thigh to me unless it's made to be longer than knee length. I never had people complain about skirt length. I got to agree with >>10017426. Generally people look like it fits horribly or look slutty/too "edgy" which is why people complain. They just put it on without considering their body types and act all like "I'm tall, can't do anything about it so how dare you concrit that". Which is bullshit. You can't make a dress longer ofcourse but you can style it in a way it doesn't look bad, similar to this tread.

>> No.10020560

>>10020200
>look slutty/too "edgy" which is why people complain
why do you care about this? Are you from Saudi Arabia or r9k or something?

>> No.10020563

>>10020560
If you want to look like a slut, lolita fashion isn't for you. Try gyaru instead.

>> No.10020685

>>10020560
Nayrt but if it is already shorter than is usual, taking care that the other lolita characteristics are on point makes the coord come together much better and people will overlook the short length most of the time.. If it’s short AND too tight/unflattering fit AND your garters/too much thigh on show...that’s way too much wrong for lolita.

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>>10018422
>>10018435
>>10019643
I'm interested too. They look like the same dress, with different color lace.

>> No.10020739

>>10019643
I wanted to know too, then I ended up digging because I thought that lace looked familiar...! It's Moi-même-Moitié - St. Peter's Cross Lace OP
https://egl.livejournal.com/20044522.html

The lolibrary link is dead. :(

>> No.10020865

>>10019272
There where some u swooped photos posted a while back.

>>10017906
And back when those unswooped photos of her where posted it also brought up another thing about her and others.
>A lot of people don't care about the personality, swoops, or lies about swoops some Lolita half the world away has done. They do care for coord pretty pictures to watch which she often has. And just like many hate her, even more like her just for her looks.
There is no reason not to post her here if she fits the theme. And personally, I like the black outfit and I don't think it's ita. If it was anyone else on the picture, they would've said not ita or called nitpick at best. You (and/or whatever anon replied to her being bad/ita/fake) are just mad because it's her, not because of how she looks. This tread is no place for vendetta. Just scroll by till the next person you do like.

>> No.10020872

>>10019670
Thick tights aren't that visibly. My hips/ass are 4 sizes bigger than most of my body and that slowly becomes smaller till my ankles who are tiny again. Causing my tights to still be big with quite some fat. Dress still hides most of it even when this short. It's more important to make sure the back won't rise up too much because of my ass. Considering a bigger difference is near impossible without surgery, I assume you wonder about fat legs, not just bigger tights. In which case, yes, you probably look bad with a short skirt because no one wants to see extra fatness.

>> No.10020876

>>10020872
no not fat , just big thighs. my calves and ankles etc all look normal, I just have a thick ass and thighs. thanks though

>> No.10021262

>>10020563
Short skirts do not indicate if someone is a slut you backwards fucking cave dweller.

>>10020685
Thank you for the logical reply.

>> No.10021273

what do you think is the height lolita fashion is intended for? maybe 5'2"?

>> No.10021301

>>10020865
>swooped
Hun it's "shooped" or "shopped". It comes from the program Photoshop. Swooping is what angry birds do, shooping is what lolitas with no self-esteem do.

I've seen someone defend that girl making that same spelling mistake before, are you in love with her or something?

>> No.10021321

>>10021301
it's probably her.

>> No.10021355

>>10021273
5'1-5'3? average japanese woman is 5'2

>> No.10021385

>>10021273
I’m 5’5 and my dresses don’t seem TOO short on me but I feel like my height is the maximum for those dresses any taller and you probably need an underskirt imo

>> No.10021392

>>10021385
I must be lucky. I am six feet tall with a slim build and dresses over 90 cm in length all look fine on me. Under that and it looks out of scale. Anyways, short dresses look cute and I've embraced the look!

>> No.10021485

>>10021392
pretty sure it just depends on your body type. I'm a pear shape and tall, and my dresses can seem a bit too lewd if I'm not careful with legwear, but like you, i've embraced the short dress/skirt look and really like it.

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>>10017529
anyone know how tall ophelia is? i'm curious
>pic unrelated

>> No.10022161

>>10021273
For old school lolita you're definitely right on the mark, but I think recently the trend has been going towards longer dresses which look better on slightly taller girls, somewhere around 5'5'' or 5'6'' maybe.

>> No.10022162

>>10018298
i think choconokecha said a while back she was ~168 cm iirc. i love her coords

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>>10022159
no idea but iirc she's not tall. like 5'3" or something?

>> No.10022203

>>10021321
check the archives please, I remember arguing with someone typoing it as "swooped" and they were hating on the girl in question.

There's a bunch of ESL retards that come to this board all the time and don't bother proof reading their posts because they think cgl is a chat room.

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So cute

>> No.10023383

>>10023382
agree, her coords are always so cute

>> No.10023412

>>10023382
what is the vest, bodice? she is wearing with the skirt? or is that a jsk? I've honestly only seen the GStL skirt, so forgive me for being a moron.

>> No.10023417

>>10023412
I think she's wearing a Meta JSK under the Baby skirt? I'll see if I can track down the lolibrary link.

>> No.10023420

>>10023412
>>10023417
Found it quicker than I thought I would https://lolibrary.org/items/meta-cl-side-ribbon-jsk-2006

>> No.10023427

>>10023417
I thought it looked like meta! thanks anon.

>> No.10024010

This thread is inspiring me to give some Putumayo dresses a try (RIP). I've always loved them but was scared off by the hem length.

>> No.10024013

>>10018481
i must be getting old if there are people who dont know fahr

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>>10017401

>> No.10024593

>>10023382
does she have insta?

>> No.10026014

>>10024593
Obliviously.happy though it's got more normy photos than lolita.

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dumping

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>>10026020

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>>10026024

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>>10026026

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>>10026028

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>>10026030

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>>10026031

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>>10026032

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>>10026033

>> No.10026037

>>10018254
wow, I hate this. it doesn't even look lolita.

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>>10026036
left coord

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>>10026039
a casual coord

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>>10026040

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>>10026041

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>>10026042

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>>10026044

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>>10026046

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>>10026047

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>>10026048

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>>10026049

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>>10026051

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>>10026053

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>>10026053

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>>10026054

>> No.10026063

>>10026057
Oof, absolutely not.

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>>10026059
another casual look

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>>10026068

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>>10026069
a trick for photos is to bend forward a bit

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>>10026071

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>>10026074

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>>10026075

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>>10026076

>> No.10026080

>>10026037
>it doesn't even look lolita
How so?

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>>10026077

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>>10026081

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>>10026089

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>>10026095

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>>10026139

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>>10026144

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>>10026150
left might be too extreme

>> No.10026165

>>10026139
Yikes. I'm all for shorter skirts and dresses, but this could really do with some bloomers.

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>>10026164

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>>10026166
anyway, here's Mana-sama

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>>10026167
thighs for days!

>> No.10026169

>>10026080
not that anon, but I'm assuming the styling. I don't really think it looks "lolita" despite the dress being a lolita dress. Looks more like a non-lolita styling using a lolita dress. I don't know how to word it, sorry. I remember there being a community on LJ of girls using lolita accessories and main pieces in lon-lolita outfits and I'd say that it would fit more in something like that than a lolita comm. Was it called Daily a la mode or something?

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>>10026168
end dump

>> No.10026556

>>10026164
No. No its not too extreme

>> No.10026731

>>10026049
I love this! Does anyone know exactly what she's wearing? Like is that a separate skirt/bustier or is it a JSK, and what blouse is that?

>> No.10026753

Are there any examples of good chubby or average girls in short dresses (not asking for fattys btw). Most girls posted here are more on the skinny side.

>> No.10026760

>>10026164
Sauce on the dress on the right?

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>> No.10026837

>>10026164
Definitely not too extreme, it's pretty short on just about everyone. I have an organdy meta dress and while I am a taller girl, it STILL comes nearly to the bottom of my ass. Have to wear bloomers with it. It's cute though, makes me feel like a precious doll.

>> No.10027303

>>10023427
You, my friend

are WHALE CUM.

>> No.10027569

>>10026169
>I don't know how to word it, sorry
lol then why did you reply??

It looks lolita enough to me and yes you are referring to lolita ala mode. But you felt the need to say it's not lolita and you don't even know what to call it? Are you sure you know what you're talking about at all??

>> No.10027769

>>10026168
how is he straight lmao

>> No.10027776

>>10027769
Mana is leagues above your petty, narrow definitions of gender and sexuality, pleb.

>> No.10027803

is it slutty to wear regular underwear under a short dress? like above mid-thigh? full-coverage cotton underwear of course, nothing skimpy.

>> No.10028028

>>10017539
This is my all time favorite thank you for posting so I can save it again

>> No.10028033

>>10027803
Well with shorter dress your underwear is more likely to show so Imo wearing bloomers under a short dress makes even more sense than wearing them with a long dress.

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>>10026164
These are both gorgeous.

>too extreme

They're designed to fit like that.

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>>10028064
Meta's promotional shots for this from the year 2000.

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a couple more

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>> No.10029388

>>10029352
Oof, that does Not fit.

>> No.10029411

>>10029388
How so? That dress is ridiculously short on everyone. it's how it was made.

My only dislike here are those cheap amazon socks.

>> No.10029419

>>10029411
I don't think anon is referring to the length, but the tightness in the bust area.

>> No.10029425

>>10029411
I don't mean the length, look at how strained the bust area is, that OP was clearly made for someone with much smaller measurements.

>> No.10029427

>>10029419
>>10029425
Oh, I see it now. yeah, I agree.

>> No.10029432

you ass

>> No.10029457

>>10029432
I'm sorry sweetie, what?

>> No.10031314

>>10026031
What dress is this? It's really pretty!

>> No.10032066

>>10018402
It's kind of short, I think the bigger issue is that it looks best with a very full petticoat which takes it into super short territory

>> No.10032569

>>10026731
It's Moitie's Velveteen Ribbon JSK

https://lolibrary.org/items/moitie-velvet-ribbon-jsk

>> No.10032576

>>10031314
Lolibrary is bugging out right now but the print is Merrymaking in the Ghost Town!

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>>10026170
>>10029361
Tall lolita here. How do i find OTKs that really end up as OTKs on me? I have those AP ones and they really look like cute UTKs on me... And according to this pic an anon shared, they are way longer than baby ones.
I'm thinking about handmaking them from tights at this point. I'm so salty cause they would look so nice on my thigh gap...

>> No.10032579

>>10032578
Have you tried Meta's? They're a bit longer than those AP ones IMO but not by that much.

>> No.10032580

>>10032578
Both Baby ones here are utks though. My Baby otks go over my knees well and I'm 5'5 with short legs.

>> No.10032581

>>10032569
Thank you so much anon!

>> No.10032583

>>10018410
OT but what is this girls online name? I used to look at her blog back in the day (just pics couldn't understand the Japanese and translate garbled it). Been looking for her for ages but didn't have a name to go on.

>> No.10032584

>>10032578
sock dreams has some nice socks called extraordinary thigh highs that are otk on me and really nice. I'd suggest getting some nice lace and ribbons and using those as a base pair. my AP socks technically go about my knee, but really after moving around and stuff they do settle right below my knee. sock clue might help, and usually I wear fishnets under mine, which help as well.

Also, the baby socks in that photo are definitely UTKs. my baby socks are jsut as long as my AP, but the AP are stretchier. Meta are longer but not bu much.

>> No.10032586

>>10032579
>>10032580
Thanks for your insights anon! I was eyeing on Meta frilly monsters socks for a while. I'll try to secure sew them on flesh coloured tights if i have to awkwardly pull them up every 5 minutes when i walk around the town.

>> No.10032587

>>10032580
>>10032584
I'm the anon who made that original shitty image, I went back through my order history and they're these socks and were marketed as OTKs:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160412155227/http://www.babyssb.co.jp/onlinestore/b38sc823/

IIRC Baby did both a regular UTK, regular OTK and an extra-long OTK or something.

>> No.10032588

>>10032584
Thank you too anon! I forgot about that site, it's nice to see they have an affordable shipping to europe

>>10032587
How do you find their "extra-long" OTKs? Do they still release them?

>> No.10032595

>>10032588
I think they were on their website in like, 2015-16? They were sold out when I ordered these.

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>>10032595
Found 'em, pic related.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160412154648/http://www.babyssb.co.jp:80/onlinestore/b38sc845/

>> No.10032820

>>10032583
Realist Sweet?

>> No.10033221

>>10023382
i don't care for the fishnets and socks look. reeks of instahoe. otherwise, good coord. i like that she experiments

>> No.10033607

>>10021273
I'd say 5'2" - 5'4".
I'm 5', bodices and sleeves are often too long for me.

>> No.10033706

>>10033607
and I'm 5'9", sleeves are always too short, and bodices are usually more of a high waist for me, no matter the cut. Luckily, I look good in a higher waist dress, so there is hope.

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>>10033221
I think it's cute. Plus, lolitas (and goths, etc) have been doing the fishnet/sock combo for much longer than instagram was even around.

>> No.10033714

>>10033708
I second it being hella cute, but I think part of the problem with the one anon replied to is that the gauge is really wide on her fishnets. Personally I prefer the look of small-to-medium gauge fishnets.

>> No.10033750

>>10033607
I definitely think 5'2", I'm 5'4" and some stuff (especially older) is still slightly short on me but I've never had anything be too long.

>> No.10033767

>>10033607
seconding this. at 5'1" everything is too long on me. dont know why i bought long bloomers, they'll never be "peeking." I own a lot of oldschool too, and that's just "normal length" on me

>> No.10033770

>>10026128
This is a replica.

>> No.10033772

>>10033770
How do you know

>> No.10033785

>>10027569

you seem upset!

not anon you're replying to but this is pretty obviously poorly done pinup bullshit, not lolita

this is the kinda ugly styling you might see at dapper day lmafo

>> No.10033790

>>10033772
Do you have eyes

Look at the shitty lace.

>> No.10034973

>>10021273
Definitely 5'2" and small-average framed, not overweight etc. Also average torso/arm/leg proportions.

>> No.10034983

>>10029365
I sort of like this

>> No.10034988

>>10018405
I do not like this photo at all, no

>> No.10035197

>>10033785
Keyword being "seem".

You seem underage using terminology like "lmafo". Doesn't look pinup at all and its pretty obvious that you don't know what you're talking about either.

>> No.10035198

>>10033790
That picture is small and I seriously doubt you're a real authenticator. Quit talking out of your ass.

>> No.10035288

>>10017401
Honestly if your a western lolita who is 5' 6" and up your going to have an issue finding dresses that always go past your knees anyways.

>> No.10035419

>>10035198
...anon, are you on mobile? You can very clearly see in the pic that it's not the original and doesn't have AP lace.

>> No.10035488

The best way to tackle short dresses is to wear tights underneath them and avoid socks at all costs, otherwise your skin shows and it could potentially look shoddy.

>> No.10035785

Anyone know where can I get a decent black petticoat for short skirts <40cm? CC has one but it's white

>> No.10035888

>>10017401
>I see a lot of girls complaining about dresses being too short if the dress is above the knee, but often times it does look good.
Because a lot of girls are short as fuck.
Short skirts gives you the chance to actually show your socks. And gives you a reason to actually care for them instead of wear whatever, because you know it will not show.

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>one image slot left
>already at bump limit

good show, anons, here is Nana Kitade

>> No.10036060

>>10035419
We had this same arguement not too long ago about the high waisted version of holy lantern - there have been several releases of this cut and the lace looks crap on one of them.
Sorry but you can't authenticate through a photo.