/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I'm a Data Analytic. I don't have much time to make cosplay so I mainly buy cosplay and lolita.
It doesn't really fit with my job lol and I try to hide it from my colleagues but yknow

Had a full scholarship in uni, so I graduated without any student loans. Now working in STEM research, where I have the luxury of sitting on my ass browsing lolita sales for 40% of my day.

I have a job and budget myself. I only do a few a year and limit my cons.

make and sell stuff in artist alley. Instead of losing money at cons, I now make money at them. I also get to shop in the artist alley (and vendor hall sometimes) before any of the regular attendees do.

>>9995083
I get paid to guest at conventions and promote stuff on instagram. I'm a student, so it's not my career but it's easy money for now.

>>9995086
Can I ask what's your salary? Obviously you don't have to answer but it's something I've thought of doing so I thought I'd ask

I work in a fiberglass plant and make tons of money to breathe in “probably cancerous” material in order to pack insulation. I’m saving up to go back to school to become a sonographer. Anything for my precious burando.

>>9995083
I've worked for some years on the marketing field. It was a trash job and I didn't feel good with it, even though the pay was good. So now I've decided to change fields and try something that could have a positive impact in the society, like being a teacher, even though the salary is not as good as before. At least I'm happy with myself lol but less burando, yeah

The real answer is sugar daddies.

Y'all know ya'll be sucking dick for wigs now.

>>9995143
Anon, that worries me. My uncle passed away after a lung transplant he needed due to working with asbestos when he was 18. I hope you wear all the protection gear.

>>9995083
I couldn't before, but I'm about to start working for a solar panel factory that pays bank so now I can start working on building my wardrobe.

>>9995083
I'm a busboy in a fancy french restaurant, we get tips too ( less than waiters but still a nice percentage) so I kinda make good money, but school just stared and I can only work once a week so i'm making way less money now. I'm studying to become an animator so that's good

Software engineer, I make 6 figures, can wear OTT lolita to work, nobody cares. I've been thinking about going back to grad school and changing to a different kind of engineering.

I'm a graphic designer. 40K/year salaried, with a 10K year end bonus. My boss does the bonus instead of a raise for tax evasion reasons, but I really like getting that big chunk of money all at once. It's a good excuse to buy something nice for myself.

Lucky to have 10 days of PTO that I use on cons throughout the year. My boss knows about my con life, I've never tried to hide why I want the same days off every year.

STEM job making nearly 6 figure salary fresh out of grad school. My husband also makes a 6 figure salary, so most of my money goes towards lolita and other hobbies.

just working nights in a shop.
when i dtop down to 8% bodyfat and get muxh better at makeup ill just do gay4pay and get a sugardaddy whos into crossplayers

>>9995183
I’m the only “weirdo” (what the people that have worked for 30+ years say) that wears a dust mask at work. Like fiberglass is considered safe but since studies can’t rule out cancer risk I’m going to continue to wear it.

I’m so sorry to hear about your uncle anon. I’m going to try to stay safe and hopefully find better employment.

>>9995182
sweet bait senpai

>>9995251
Good to hear, keep being that "weirdo". I see people all the time not wearing masks in hazordous environments in my line of work and it always make be worry for their future.
Good luck with your search and saving for school!

4th grade teacher. Not a super glamorous job, but it's enough and it's what I went to school for.

I have a job, it pays well. Cosplay is something I do for fun. It would be cool to do costuming or something similar for work, but there's no way it would be able to get close to my salary or career opportunities.

>>9995252
I've had 3 different cosplay sugar babies. It's real lol.

>>9995083

Baker. Working nights is not a problem, as I'm already pretty much nocturnal, and the salary is insane. And I like baking, which is a plus I guess.

>>9995228
I would highly recommend this, young gulls. I make money in a job that's secure and that pays six figures, but it's hard out here and if you're in any way kind of good with numbers or technical stuff, go for it, and really anyone can learn if you're not the
>teehee, I'm a girl, can't do maths and physics, teeheehee! I'm soooo ditzy!
type and willfully bimbo-fy yourself. Don't follow your dreams, pick a field where jobs are plenty and well paid. Do your dreams as a hobby on the side. Once you're in, watch out for the "women in tech" who are actually trannies. They're batshit and they're backstabbers and will turn on you on a dime, never let your guard down around them, you're safer in a room full of actual men.

>>9995227
>Lucky to have 10 days of PTO

smells like burgerland

>>9995182
I don't want a sugar daddy. I want a sugar mommy to buy me burando and takee to interesting places. I'd be such a good sugar baby, I'm cute, intelligent, affectionate and very enthusiastic in bed.

>>9995403
Eww, whore.

Sell feet pics on Instagram

To be honest, I just have rich parents. But I'm currently hunting for data analyst jobs.

>>9995427
how many followers do you have, and how do you price your pics? i'm smaller, and it sucks to have a bunch of gross dudes follow you but never actually buy anything

>>9995083
I'm a lawyer but I could afford secondhand even as a student. I just couldn't buy things very often and built my wardrobe slowly

I miss the old prostitution threads.

>>9995219
how long have you been working at that company/what was your education like?

>>9995440
How do you convince them to gib? My family is six figures, but we live very frugally (no fancy cars, eat at home) That’s fine, and it means more money for trips, tech, and fun. They wouldn’t bat an eye at me buying computer parts but there’s always the hairy eyebrow regarding dresses, even when it’s the money I actually earned. I have a wardrobe so it’s not like it’s new to them, but there’s some weird mental block or something.

And no, I’m not nagging them, it’s just the money they give me to do whatever. I could burn it on anything but some reason dresses make them uncertain

>>9995427
I really want to do this, how do you do it?

NEETbux from having a chronic illness and severe anxiety. It's not much at all but at least i got something til i can get a job

I'm an indie game dev. I love it and pay is good, but you really need to be financially responsible and not crack under the pressure of an uncertain paycheck.

desu my goal is to become con guest level so I can freeload my travel expenses and shit.

>>9995391
America definitely sucks. I live in a Right To Work state, and my last two office jobs didn't have any PTO at all, not even paid sick leave, so 10 is honestly pretty awesome.

>>9995487
Part of it is that they've generally never cared much about what I spend money on as long as I'm doing well in school / university, so I've basically had free rein. They also don't know or track the specifics of how much I spend on what. I don't have other expensive hobbies and don't go out nearly as much as other people my age, so that just means more money for brand.

It also definitely helps that they also both like lolita on me. My mom is kind of old fashioned in the sense that she thinks girls should look very feminine and care for their appearance, so lolita ticks the boxes for that. My dad's been to Japan a bunch of times so he gets that it's a thing. He also collects stuff relating to his own hobby (worth waaay more than what I've spent on lolita) so he's understands the aspect of building up a wardrobe. I think I just got very lucky.

Do you think the mental block is related to them thinking buying dresses is vain or useless?

I work full time at a hotel, but I camwhore part time. Then just use that revenue to pay for my addiction.

>>9995465
I've been working at my current job for about a year, but I have 10 years of prior experience. I've dressed however I've felt like dressing for all of those years. If you're competent and if it doesn't interfere with your work, people rarely (if ever) care. I have a BFA. I learned CS and programming on my own, but I studied really hard.

>>9995501
Mmmaybe? I was really insecure about my appearance as a kid and especially around puberty so I blocked out all things girly and cute, and now it’s kind of exploded back into existence. My parents dress well if not “fancy”, and burando is definitely cheaper than brand new designer clothes.
I think part of it is my dad is on a financial YouTube kick, and he wants me to work hard and save money and then retire when I’m 30. Which sounds pretty dope, but like you it’s one of my few hobbies that costs money.

I wish I'd find a sugar daddy, without the sex part. Building a wardrobe would be much easier like that than mopping floors >_<'

Full time student, so I mainly pay for cosplay with VA disability comp and leftover from GI bill BAH. I'm starting to get a small amount of income from leatherworking though, which kind of helps.

I’m a university academic at a really fancy American uni, so I’m paid enough to sustain lolita as a hobby. But what I enjoy the most is that I have a lot of freedom to wear whatever I’d like! I keep it toned down so as to not cause heart attacks (and I mostly wear old school/black anyways), but no one really cares, especially on days that I’m just working in my office/the library.

>>9995219
>>9995228
My goals right there
>>9995390
This desu
>>9995489
I guess she takes pics of her feet and then names the price...and the weirdos pay

I've been saving ever since I started making money plus my study got financed so I saved up from that as well, plus I have a full time ok-paying job and cheap house. Being a cheapskate pays off

Camwhoring

I work part-time in IT, and go to school part-time for web design. I live at home right now so I only have a few bills, and my boyfriend and I are homebodies so my only other real expense is food. It's tempting to avoid putting money in savings lol, but I try to every paycheck and then allow myself to spend the rest however.

Software engineer, my husband is the same. DINK life means we both have a lot of freedom even with saving a lot of our paycheck.

i'm currently a student and i don't work. i use money from birthday and holiday gifts. my parents gift me stuff from time to time, as long as i have good grades. i don't spend much on my hobbies tho, id' say i'm kinda stingy.

>>9995445
>>9995489

I charge $20-$30 for regular sets, $100+ for custom pics/videos.

99.9% of your followers will never buy anything unfortunatley.

>>9995496
eyyy game dev

I do contract work doing 3d / 2d game assets and concept art for augumented reality games. It’s not super consistent yet but it pays pretty well and I can charge freelance rates.

I cosplay pretty cheaply (i have a lot of leftover fabric from various sources, mostly gifted, so 75% of my material comes from that) so it’s not a huge chunk of money.

>>9995134
tell me your ways senpai, i am a student too who needs easy money

this thread is full of really impressive stuff. i'm a dunce in comparison.

i'm the stay-at-home partner which means no income for my wardrobe and cosplay fantasies. gifts aren't really a thing in this relationship.
i do have my finance/accounting degree, i wonder if i should make up a resume. won't that eat all the remaining time though? is there another way of approaching this situation i'm missing?

also proud of you all

>>9995816
you have a degree, please work for yourself as well as your partner so you can buy things and maybe buy a gift for your partner to start gift giving. i'm currently working towards my degree, don't let it go to waste!

and fyi, microsoft word has great resume templates

honestly feel like killing myself even more when i see how many gulls have their shit together.
Am a NEET due to severe depression and sometimes i can afford brand.
I dropped out from high school because of how bad it was. Honestly I just wanna die already.

>>9995819
your words were inspiring! i'm on Indeed right now and found a temp job teaching little kids programming.
it might be good to get my feet wet!

>>9995830
Get your GED and even if you hate doing anything or living at all, then just dedicate yourself to making the world better with you life before you throw it away, anon. You hate it and you hate being alive, but then you willl have made a positive influence before you vanish. Maybe you'll find a good job or a reason to live.

>>9995837
i'm currently job searching as well trying to support myself in school, i wish i had my degree already! you can pretty much get any decent job, especially with the degree you have

good luck!! i hope we can both support our selves more than enough

still a student so I don’t have time to do much work, but sometimes I take art commissions on the side and my parents provide me with a little money too. not brand money but it’s decent. I enjoy saving up for dresses I really like, even if it means I can only buy one or two a year

>>9995142
I'm with the British Government in Statistics and Data Analytics and I make around £24,000 per year! It's not godly pay like some anons have, but it'll keep me going.

Right now I'm both a substitute teacher and a music teacher for pre-K to 8th grade.

Kill me.

I loved teaching before I graduated but I just absolutely hate the american education system and I am honestly dreading work everyday.

I don't know what else to do with my life though, thinking of finding work with animals.

i've done reception the last two years and haven't been able to spend a lot on lolita. buuut my partner started working recently, and i start a higher paying office job this week so hopefully that means a bit more money to spend on clothes! (and maybe i can buy stuff that's not secondhand!!)

I also work in STEM. There are so many of us! That makes me happy. I think STEM is a great choice and I wish more women would get into it, but any working girl is doing great in my eyes. Whether you're a CEO or a camgirl or just a cashier, it's so important to have your own money and to not depend on others. I know being a sugar baby sounds so amazing, but there's a dangerous power dynamic there. You need to be able to support yourself when this guy inevitably finds a younger, perkier, prettier version of you.

>>9995838
I should try. Thank you anon, love the Monika gif.
Ever since my gf left the little motivation i had to get it together dropped so low.

I work at a museum, hopefully moving up to being an operations manager by next year! There isn't much of a dress code so I can get away with wearing some of my classic lolita stuff there.

this thread inspired me to start selling feet pics and used panties/socks/shoes

thanks gulls, i needed the push

>>9995816
Remaining time? What are you talking about? Most people work and don't sit around at home all day

I actually thought of selling used socks/panties to have some extra cash at the end of the month but i'm too chicken and scared someone from the lolita comm or smt would find out.
How do you even start? How do you reel customers in?

>>9995867
Sell out and work at private school. Not even kidding, the difference is night and day.

>>9995903
google like i did, there's plenty of subreddits that have guides and all you need to do beforehand really is safety and privacy (a VPN, strictly throwaway accounts, identity coverage if youre doing nudes etc)

>>9995867
If you aren't too tied down, maybe consider teaching ESL in another country anon? Every country has their own issues with their education system, but if you're still passionate about teaching, maybe you just need a change of pace or a new environment. Look into TEFL certification!

>>9995909
not her but thanks for the push in the right direction

>>9995912
I actually plan on doing that, Im just tied down enough right now that I need to save up first and all that jazz.

Mainly my fiance wants me to wait a couple years for him to be done with his masters and us to move so that way when I leave he can be settled enough to afford to come visit me every month or so.

>>9995907
I probably dont have enough experience for that yet, but thats what I hear!

I hate public school so much i'm even applying for retail jobs again

>>9995894
That’s so great, and hope you do make the promotion! My alternative for life if I get tired af of university politics and snooty department colleagues is to pursue museum work (history phd, so a lot of us do end up in curatorial work). What kind of museum do you work at?

>>9995854
Same. I do art commissions/AA/online store on the side while studying. I don't want to use too much of my parents' money though since I have a younger sibling that still needs funds for university.

Hopefully I'll be able to find a decent job when I graduate, but prospects looking not great;;

>>9995896

based, good luck anon

>tfw I have a cozy $70k/year job and don't need to sell nudes on patreon for neckbeardbucks to support my cosplay hobby

Make around $40k doing editing/content dev. Most of my money goes to whatever I want since SO pays bills/rent (he works in comp engineering and also has a lot in BTC and assets).

Rich parents.

I live with my parents and I earn a scholarship for studying that I can use 100% for my hobbies. It’s not much but lets me buy a couple of dresses and accessories a month.

>>9996240
Same boat. It's not even the selling nudes parts that bothers me. There's so much competition. Is this a stable source of income? How are you gulls not stressing out over whether or not you'll sell enough nudes, panties, tokens, socks, whatever to not just cover your hobbies but cover your bills? What do you do about your name and face being attached to this line of work? I am genuinely curious.

>>9996271

Most girls cant make a living on patreon alone. I have a regular job which pays the bills, I sell lewds to pay for my hobby. If people don't buy then big deal it just means less money for the hobby.

>>9996273
Ok! That makes a lot more sense. I was under the impression that most girls were doing this as their main gig. I like the idea of selling hobby related stuff to fund a hobby. I'm not brave enough to do nudes, but maybe I'll sell cute crafts or something. I hope you get lots of patrons this month, anon.

I make 34k a year doing clerical office work, and do at least 6 new cosplays and about 5 or so cons a year. Budget well and save up. I thrift a lot, hit up sales for supplies, and repurpose things from past cosplays where possible. Thankfully most events are local for me even though I do spend money on a room.

>>9996240
Same. Topics like this just remind me /cgl/ is full of losers

>>9996271
So, I know people who are 30+ and still doing the artist alley, selling nudes thing... No it's not stable, it's not cute, it doesn't pay well, and they need to get real jobs. If you don't come up with some kind of exit plan in your early 20s then you're sort of screwed.

well before I used Student Loan to pay for my cosplay but now I'm using my minimum wage job while looking for an apprenticeship (and staying with my parents)

>>9996384

Selling lewds is less shameful than mooching off your parents.

>>9996006
I'm at a history museum! It's a pretty small museum (especially compared to the smithsonian equivalent...) so it's a pretty chill place and you get more one-on-one interaction with guests which can be pretty nice. I can't speak much on the conservation/curation aspect of it, but if it's a subject you're passionate about it can be pretty rewarding.

I handle dead animals all day.

I am a full time student with max hours at the moment, so I only handle dead shit half the day now.

>>9996432
taxidermy or abbatoir?

Does anyone want a cosplay bf who will give you a cosplay allowance?

>>9996396
LOL, nice joke

When my bf is at work, sometimes I do private cam shows.

When I was single, I had a guy would pay me $300 to go down on me. Only did it once, but good to know if I’m ever broke the option is there.

>>9996579
You might want to consider dancing at a topless bar or working at a dungeon before prostitution... I was a domme at a dungeon for a while after college, $65/hr plus tips to tie men up, call them disgusting pigs, and occasionally flog them-- and they weren't allowed to touch me.

>>9996579
>$300
Yikes, respect yourself more. That's barely the amount sugar babies get for meeting a guy and talking to them over dinner, much less letting guys go down on them.

This thread always fuckin starts off well enough and then devolves so quickly.

>>9996592
It lasted a couple days though, that's almost a record

>>9996396
I would move out but it's expensive where I am and also my parents are Christians so they would probably be shocked and angry with me if I go around selling lewds (heck it took them a year to get used to me wearing cosplays to the con)

I make 30-60+ bucks an hour for tutoring something I love doing. It's pretty great.

>>9996697
How do you get this job?

>>9996712
Nepotism

I'm currently a college drop out and intend to go back because my current job doesn't pay as much as I'd want, but it's not bad for where I live and still leaves me with enough to spend on lolita and save some money on the side. I work retail as a department manager in a grocery store, get about $34k a year.

Honestly the garbage scheduling is what makes me really know I need to get my ass back in college. I'm so tired of last minute changes, being called in, working sudden 12 hour days, not knowing what days I'll have off ever, having to sacrifice planned days off when the bosses say we're having a sale or some shit. I want to travel more and while this isn't bad money where I live, it's not travel money. I'm only 22 so I don't hate myself too much yet, I've got time.

>>9996712
>>9996730
Jokes aside, my advice would honestly be;
1. Git gud at an academic subject (english, math, science, visual art, or music) anything else has too little demand.
2. Advertise your services in applicable areas (newspaper, pamphlets, and community boards). It helps if you have some background in teaching/camps and have access to potential students.
3. The most desired demographics are asian/imigrant students, because their parents WILL pay for extra education and they often have their own communities within the overal community and they WILL talk to each other about it ("Hey, my kid is taking classes with x to learn y")
4. Don't be discouraged. All it takes is a few starting students. After that, they do the advertising for you. They bring in their friends. Extended family. So on in so forth.
5. To continue business growth, make sure you're a good teacher and show the parents food results. Always explain what/how the students are working to the parents.
6. Profit

>>9996737
*and
**good

>>9996396
If I had kids I'd be selling my fucking organs to avoid having them do cam shit or sell implied nudes to strangers on the internet.

>>9995738
Another software engineer gull here, I love my job and I get to buy all the pretty clothes and cosplay materials I want to. Girls, get into STEM and make some fucking money. That art degree might sound tempting but it won't let you do what you love anyway and it doesn't even pay off your student loans.

Are sugardaddies for men found in the same websites as the ones for females?

word on the street is that gay guys are ridiculously generous and unhinged when it comes to shit shit, I want my totally not gay oil baron to sponsor my hotel, give me 10,000$ a month budget of all the drugs and clothes and shit I want just like all the bodybuilders I see.

How do I get invited to conventions overseas. Should I just make an Instagram with pretty shooped pictures or something? I'm not looking to make this into a career or anything, I just want the chance to travel while I'm still a student and have time.

My cosplay pays for itself through monetization, like Patreon. A have a small social media side gig for my families business but cosplay is my main source of income.

I'm happy to see so many gulls doing well for themselves. I'm a recent college grad looking for new work since I'm working a call center job at the moment. I'm also planning to start advertising commissions/freelance to help myself out. My SO is planning to go into an electrician apprenticeship and he's super supportive of my hobbies, so that'll help as well.
>>9995778
>>9995496
Do you guys have any specific sites you'd recommend for freelance work? My degree is in 3D modeling so I'm looking for the best way to get into freelance, although I've been thinking about starting a patreon.

>>9996775
I'm always amazed with how little knowledge artists and designers have about basic buisness. And it's not like an american art school is a quality art education either. What tf do they teach you in those schools?

>>9996771

do you sell lewds or can you make money without?

>>9996811
Here’s the deal. I have a pretty small following, Less the 5,000 per platform. The trick isn’t numbers it’s monetizing a small but loyal audience.

I do very tame lewds, no POV, no implied. Everything is always artistic and tasteful. But the key is having a good relationship with your following. I talk to all of my patrons about what they would like to see in the future and I allow them to vote on Sets too. When you do cosplay professionally like I do you need to treat it like a job. It’s our job to put out high quality photos of characters as we choose to interpret them (whether you have tats, do lewds, whatever). So it’s not a numbers game, it’s about building trust and putting effort into what you release.

>>9996811
Same person, just wanted to add before I forget.

When you choose to pursue cosplay as a career you have to recognize that you’re a brand now. You have to maintain a certain quality and stick with it. Be strategic and confident with everything you do, cosplays you wear, and what you post. You don’t want to attract thousands of teen boys who won’t sub to your Patreon, you want regular people who are willing to pay to support your career and in return you give them quality photos, or whatever perks you choose.

>>9996761
Yes actually, I know a guy who's currently a sugar baby. You'll probably have to be okay with having your ass blasted though.

>>9996811
I used to do patreon, no lewds at all. I had guys who consistently gave me 150 a month who never wanted anything in return (they would legitimately just give me money and never talk to me, even when I tried initiating conversations out of guilt), and I almost never advertised my patreon on my other social medias. Even after I closed my patreon due to busy schedule, these people would ask me if there was some other way to donate money to me. It really depends on how loyal your fanbase is.

>>9996785
My school specifically was a joke, and I didn't really learn that until I was in too deep. We had a whole class about building out portfolios, but there was nothing in terms of business or marketing. The 3D teacher especially was fucking terrible, half the time he'd just put on shit like Rick and Morty or South Park and make fun of the students he didn't like. So now I'm stuck in a lot of debt with very little in terms of marketing knowledge thanks to that chode.

>>9996890
Nayrt but I have a fine arts degree and majored in experimental video (USEFUL) and have been through something similar. Put a demo reel together and just start sending it out. If you have friends who work for animation or design houses, buy them drinks and pick their brains. I ended up getting my first graphics gig through a 3D animator I met at a birthday party.

>>9996775
In my area jobs that ask for 3d modeling skills tend to be in the design end of the automotive and manufacturing industries.

>>9996775
I'm >>9995778 , I get freelance contracts through a local company that makes mobile games for businesses. I found it through gamedevmap.com and just started emailing companies in my area / areas i could move to if they'd be interested in my help. All my work is remote so I didn't have to move anywhere expensive which is p nice.
orcahq is another nice website for specifically game job listings.
good luck anon!

>>9996399
Hey I work at a museum too! No one comes to it though, so it's kind of boring...

I’ve been working a regular retail job since March but I’ve also been keeping an eye out for an actual job in the industry I studied for since I graduated a year ago. Shit is rough to get into but I’m about to take it to the next level and start emailing the designer I did an internship for last to see if she has any suggestions.

Other than that, I live with my parents (just the three of us in the house) so no bills but I help out with groceries and gas for the cars we share. I saved up a few thousand these last few months in case I need to buy my own car, I’m just holding off in case I end up leaving to work in the city.

>>9996904
>>9996907
>>9996963
Thanks for all the advice and such, anons. It's always good to hear positive words from other people in the industry. I'm definitely gonna look into some smaller freelance stuff while I look for something full time!

>>9996832
life fucks you in the ass if youre the 99% anyway so might as well.

im so tight though which scares me, cause ill almost be guaranteed to be scarred the first time, though I think the guy will probably get off to that fact.

>>9996396
living with your parents is much less shameful than unironically saying “lewds”

>>9995390
>"Women in tech" who are actually trannies and crazy

I think many of us learn this lesson from our comms. No, I'm not being a bigot when I tell you to kick "Sakura" out of our comm, he's soliciting underage girls and they're feeling pressured because THEY don't want to feel like a bigot for rejecting him. FYI he did get kicked from the comm eventually when he cheated on one of the 16 year old members with a 14 year old one, but nobody is going to bother reporting his ass to the police because they're scared of being transphobic. I haven't because I really just don't want to even get involved anymore and none of his victims would testify to him being anything more than a friend.

>>9997238
That went off topic, but I really had to vent. Would have posted in the feels thread but that place is unorinicslly filled with /r9k/ crossboarders who are just like """""Sakura"""""" and would take it as bait.

I work as a sysadmin for a relatively small company. I don't think anyone would care if I wore Lolita to work but I'd rather not draw attention to myself. My office has a lot of Sanrio/SanX stuff everywhere though. I have a framed picture of Misako that everyone makes positive comments on. I'm pretty comfy financially and can on the fly drop however much I need for a dream piece without hesitation. I do cosplay but j suck at making my own stuff so I just comissioned everything. Pic related, trying to find wig stylers that can pull off Isabelle "hair."

>>9995876
To the STEM anons, can I ask which sectors you're in and what degrees you took? I was thinking of going into psychology, but have been advised to go into STEM instead.

>>9997251

Here's the thing about STEM, don't get into it if you don't love it. It's an incredibly frustrating field not only due to the work but due to the shit you have to put up with as a woman in that field.

>constantly shit on, mansplained, or quizzed
>expected to do 2x as much work as a male in the same position
>work itself is hard enough with crazy deadlines and difficult problems
>coworkers are autists and have a lot of issues working with women

However, it's been a great career, and after ten years I'm moving to management

>>9997253
I've worked in STEM (IT to be exact) for 7 years and I've never come across this save for a few exceptions and very rarely have my female friends had to go through it. Don't discourage girls from going into STEM just because of the "women are shat on there" meme, things are never going to change that way.

>>9996833

Pretty jealous desu as long as your fans arent getting stalkerish

Why turn down free money?

>>9997251
the "go into STEM, you'll make a ton of money" meme is really stupid
sure you can make more but if you don't like the work you're gonna want to die every day at your 9-5

>>9996816
>>9996823
>>9996833

How do I improve my fanbase? Without resorting to half naked pics.

Also if you're aiming for the "science" half of stem, it vastly, vastly, depends on what area you go into. Most areas of biology/ecology are extremely saturated and jobs are underpaying because they can get away with it (and don't have much funding to begin with). medical research/pharmaceuticals might stay a decent bet for income but research carefully before picking a research-science based career if you're hoping for $$$

>signed: a half broke biologist/geologist

I'm an engineer at my parent's company since I graduated 5 years ago. It's not a small company (~500 employees) and I'm the 6th generation of the family running the company. They want me to take the reins eventually so I'm going to start taking courses for my MBA next fall.

I buy a couple of dresses every year. My closet is full of lolita/otome wardrobe. I can't commit to a Comm because of my busy work schedule.

>>9997380
Nayrt but it depends a lot on which field and also which company and what sort of geographical location. I'm a woman and have been an engineer for > 10 years and have had to deal with some of the most outrageous shit at some companies and been treated very respectfully at others.

>>9997452
of course, a Bio degree on its own is basically worthless. You either have to go for a professional program after, grad school for research, or take a job as a research assistant. Basically nothing opens up from just a Bio Degree, same with Physics, Mathematics, etc, you have to move on from that and get something else.
If you want an out of the box degree, CS, Accounting, Nursing, etc all exist

Sucking dick, mostly.

>>9996752
Yes gull, I'm with you all the way. The hardest part for me was getting through school tbqh.

>>9997470

please be a guy

>>9997251
Does anything in stem interest you anon? What are you good at?

>>9997447
But what's the point of getting a degree for a job you'd love to work, but after failing in the job market, working retail anyway? You need to find a balance between something you're good at and can be happy doing with how marketable that skill is.

>>9997447
There are so, so, SO many options in STEM though. There are customer facing jobs if that's what you like. There are jobs where you hardly even talk to your own team if that's what you want. Lots of in between too. There are jobs with a more creative spin. There are jobs where you will be doing the exact same thing every day and some people like that. Take the time to research what jobs your degree can be applied towards. There are a lot of options out there.

>>9997572
STEM is not for everyone. If you try to shoehorn everyone into it, even if they don't want to, it's not going to go well.
I always hate how much it's shilled because people think money is king above everything else

>>9997251
Yeah STEM is a lot of work but I love it. Did my undergrad in Physics and currently doing grad school in a medical science program. You need to love what you're doing because it can be a long road with a lot of schooling.

Employment markets can change quickly so I wouldn't choose a field solely because it is lucrative now, expecially since it can be years before you're done with school. Whatever you chose I'd try to make sure it has skills you can translate into other fields so you have a backup. For example with physics I can translate into more of a computer science field or engineering without having to start from scratch.

>>9997380

I discourage ppl from going into STEM by just following money. If you’re here for money, you won’t last, if you’re here because you genuinely enjoy doing it then go ahead.

Good for you for never having a problem in your career, but that isn’t the case with most people and I wish someone would have told me when I started what I was in for.

>>9995830
Friend, you know it’s a vicious cycle that you’re in- feeling like you’re shit because you’re not accomplishing goals and then not accomplishing goals because you’re feeling like shit. You have to break through it somehow! Even starting small, like a local part time job, will do heaps to help build back your confidence a bit. And from there maybe you can get going! But don’t give up on yourself yet. I have a cocktail of mental health issues including depression and anxiety, even landed in a psych ward a few times. But I’m really doing a lot better now, even have a nice career going, and I hope you can too.

>>9997451
Post regularly. Develop a “style”. Take good photos that aren’t just selfies, it helps to learn photoshop and how to take your own pics with a DSLR.

Choose if you want to go quality over quantity, that’s a big thing too. And actively engage with your followers. I’ve been doing cosplay professionally since I was 17 and it’s been my main support income ever since. It’s not hard, it just takes time to learn what works and what doesn’t.

I hope you all are saving sone money too especially if your income comes from your looks

>>9995675
Whats your name?

>>9995182
>>9995403
I tried the SD scene and it's full of salt daddies who want to get all your honey and not give you any sugar. Some of the guys are genuinely hot and interesting though, but a lot are pretty fucking old. I can do it with a guy my father's age, but not my grandfather's age, you feel me. I just can't. Maybe they're more ready to pay but...Ah, man.
>>9995506
>>9995675
What sites and what kind of money are you seeing? I tried camming a few days ago, made about $25 for an hour of work. I really fucked up and didn't do a "tip menu" or...anything I was supposed to do, really, so I think I can get more than that if I do it like a not-idiot. I don't fake my orgasms, either, I really did cum a bunch, but man it's really exhausting work. Covered in sweat and my legs were shaking. It's more exhausting than sex.
And what do you think a realistic risk of getting caught or blackmailed with the videos is? I have zero social media and am a shut-in so no one really knows me. I figure the chances of idk, having my name publicly smeared, are pretty low. More probable I'll get hit by a car on my way to work than to be outed as a camwhore.
>>9995535
>I wish I'd find a sugar daddy
>without the sex part.
I, too, want a job where I get paid and don't have to work.
>>9996579
Not a bad deal at all.

>>9995907
Private school teachers work less but they earn less in the US

I'm a junior in college and I'm freaking out over getting a job. I'd love to be a consultant (not even top tier) but I fucked up and probably can't swing the GPA requirement by the time I graduate. I had a sweet paid internship this summer where I did very little but I don't think it's going to help me find a well-paying position.

Student about to graduate real soon, hopefully work in a big finance/accounting firm in New York

Im from the area and the combination of family nearby, good jobs, large amount of cons in the area, and things to do in NY are to irresistible

I see loads of cosplayers spending thousands on their shit. Getting custom £2000 Lightsabers made and all that jazz. And here I am. Living off a student loan and trying to justify £100 worth of material for Kylo Ren.

>>9995830
I'll spare you the "it gets better speil." Honestly maybe it doesn't ever. However the likelyhood of things getting better increases if you actually get up and do shit. Volenteer at a charity shop or homeless shelter. Get off your arse and do something not related to cosplay even if you don't want to do it. You'd be surprised how just having a proper routine can help you sort yourself out mentally.

Alternatively, you could just roll your eyes, mumble "that won't work" and just keep doing what you're doing until you can be arsed to An Hero.

>>9996761
Is there this but for boys instead of masculine

College graduate who lost their part-time job and hasn't been able to find one since. I started out reselling stuff on eBay from when I had money and splurged and now I've just started camming. At least all my costumes are good for something? I'm not making much but it's better than nothing for just a quick hour or two until I find another job.

>>9995830
Never forget that people can say they do whatever they want on an anonymous image board, Anon.

You can, at least, find temp jobs or work from home so you have a little income to get on your feet. Take some time and get your GED.

>>9995830
Get a GED and do online classes for the local community college. Since you don't have income you can get grants (free money) for tuition/books.

I was a NEET until I started community college and it really helped me.

>tfw crippling fibro/incapacitated
>can't hold a job
>govt thinks im not oppressed enough so no financial compensation/support
>shitload medical bills
>owning at least one lolita coord is only a distant dream since i was 12

>>9999432
Aw shit, gull. I feel bad for you. Have you thought about Taobao? They've got the mass produced JSKs for under $25 if you're not picky. Same for blouses and stuff.

>>9999435
>suggesting anon buys Chinese garbage
Not only is she suffering, you want her to dress like shit? That's no way to enjoy the fashion.

>>9999432
Don't listen to the other anon - As another fibro sufferer, there are jobs you can do online, from home. You won't be rich off them but it's a way to make money that isn't as straining as other jobs that require you to leave the house.
You'll be able to slowly save up and in the meantime familiarize yourself with the Japanese market and the shopping services you'll need to buy there, until you can buy some brand secondhand, and yes, you can find some amazing deals with some patience. Working hard for what you love is infinitely more satisfying than succumbing to instant gratification.

>>9999439
It's better than nothing if money is tight. I doubt anon is expecting to buy burando at the moment.

>>9997251
I'm an actuary making 125k after 6 years of experience, got a job right out of college with 1 paid internship. Basically you take professional exams while working instead of going to grad school and building up debt without getting paid. Great option if you're good at math.

>>9999441

nayrt, but most legit taobao stuff is around $80, not $20

At $20-ish you're either putting a deposit on a dress you'll receive months in the future (and you'll have to pay another ~$40-50 bucks when the dress is completed), or you're getting an even cheaper, crappier replica from a shop that uses stolen photos of the original. Yes, we have reached taobaorepliception. There are now shops that replicate legit taobao lolita shops, and even shops that replicate the replicas.

At the very least correct your wording. Just straight up tell her she's gonna be buying cheap replica crap from shops with stolen photos for $20, not "mass produced jsks".

>>9999508
Mass produced basically is cheap replicas, just saying. They find a print they can get fabric of and then create a ton of it and sell it cheap.

>>9999516

If you're gonna be telling someone whose money is tight to spend that precious money on cheap crappy replicas, at least have the decency to say it outright. Don't dance around with calling it something other than "cheap replica". It doesn't hurt any less when all that money is gone and what arrives in the mail is some weird blurry dress that doesn't look like the stock photos.

If she's fine with crappy replicas she'll still be happy you told her about it.

>>9999435
>>9999439
taobao has some nice things, and I'm honestly not picky, pls don't fight anons. I know more or less all about shops, shipping, etc, I know the theory; I just can't do the practice.

>job from home
I know it sounds like I'm just a lazy lardass at this point but even that is difficult for me. I cannot sit on a chair for prolonged periods of time anymore. Even in bed in a laptop, I'm constantly uncomfortable. I'm absolutely fucking wrecked. I need help doing basic needs sometimes e.g. walking going to the toilet. I feel like an elderly even though I'm 19.

but ty anon. I'm trying out new meds and if I can manage to start sitting at my computer I'll look into productivity.

Thank you gulls. sorry for blog post whining.

I graduated with a STEM degree two years ago and have been a complete NEET since. My crippling depression and anxiety has taken over my life and I've taken a step back from all my hobbies because of it. I'm living vicariously through gulls now.

That's what I get for being a POS though so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>9995083
i sell picture of console online from normie on holydays and make a quick buck

>>9995403
the bullshit you just say can be smell across the globe
lets be serious your too retarded and lazy to have a job, i bet you are even denied as a slave and no one border with you and your just hobo that as gone to bestbuy to use a compuiter on trial
cunt

>>9999695
do we need to call an ambulance?

>>9999689
Anon, I feel really bad for you..
I've been in about the same boat as you, no money for anything nice, just staying afloat.
What style do you like?

>>9999689
Bodyline is having a sale right now as well.

How can I find a Dubai daddy to pay me $10,000 a weekend for disgusting taboo sex without being kidnapped or murdered?

>>9999704
OK, see, I like all kinds of styles, on different people. I love dressing people up/suggesting them styles and pieces if they give me the chance.

but for myself, hmm, I think I would like owning mostly Ouji (nothing too aristocratic, more casual), Lolita (gothloli, classical loli, I like chiffons and neutral/pastel colors, nothing like sweet OTT for me) and traditional/feudal japan style pieces (not sure if there's a specific term, also sorry English is not my native language).
Mori-kei too, I love it so much, even though it's out of my comfort zone and probably wouldn't go well with my figure...

The problem is not only I can't afford, but also buying is a risk of waste of money because it might look good on the models, but on me look horrendous, and then it's hard to resell it esp if it's offbrand, I imagine...

>>10000137
I've wanted to buy from them since I discovered the world of jp fashion! they've changed so much. Did something happen to bodyline though? I've noticed the prices have gone up (maybes it's just my imagination), and a lot of pieces from years ago are gone. they had some ouji stuff I wanted to buy but it simply disappeared, RIP.

sorry for derailing and rambling, gulls. thank you for your kindness.

>>10000236

start streaming
you wont need to fuck them either

>>10000249
What is this, twitch? The only game I like to play is skyrim, will that work? Like, this is legit?

>>10000251

Its legit but bare in mind the market is crowded and you'll have to find a way to build a following

>>10000254
Well, that creature is pretty damned average looking.
Two stupid questions. My laptop isn't really meant for gaming and I can only run skyrim like an hour before it starts getting really hot. Is that long enough to work for this?
And if I were to make an instagram or something and offer an add on that as a reward, should i take boob shots or what? Is it understood that they're there for boobs, or would that be trashy and turn them off? Boob-infused selfies for plausible deniability?
Do you do this?

>>10000241
I understand, finding what looks good on you is super hard. Especially because 90% of the time you're buying online and it's hard to get a grasp on how it's going to look on you.
Could you send me an email? I wanna help in some way if I can.

>>10000259
honey you need a really good connection and a really good PC for streaming. your laptop that can barely run skyrim and your stock webcam and mic are not going to make for a good stream and donation incentives.

you don't have to use your tits to stream, honestly most look down upon it besides those who actually donate and give money - so you have to decide what matters more, money or streaming as a personality.

start with trying to build a new pc, you won't get anywhere with a shitty laptop. it quite literally won't work.

>>10000281
Woops throwaway email went wrong. I just pasted it in both now!

>>10000259

If you have big boobs you should show them off, but if not you can still make money if you are cute and have an enganging personality (that doesnt necessarily be nice, many streamers are trolls)

You don't even need to play videogames, Twitch has an IRL section where you can do anything you want basically.

>>10000301
That's the most disgusting nose I've ever seen

and some people just donate to random streamers

>>10000307
"Random"

>>10000259
>>10000286
Isn't Twitch cracking down on tittystreamers anyway?

>>10000236
Just start camming or something.

>>10000241
Bodyline changed hands since Mr Yan retired this year. They've jacked up the prices but they're trying to actively make the brand bigger instead of letting it die like it did for a bit. Definitely buy a lucky pack. An anon in the Bodyline general did and got a petti, blouse, bolero, and a JSK out of it.

>>10000307
Suddenly wish my laptop could handle gaming and streaming at the same time.

>>10000310
"Random"

>>10000313
>Isn't Twitch cracking down on tittystreamers anyway?

Allegedly but not really.
We have IRL section with "bodypaint" cosplay which is girls wearing pasties painting themselves.

I work retail since I’m still in college. I commission my graphic designs and sell in artist allies and online so that helps. My retail job does most of the work tho since my shop doesn’t attract as many people as I once did.

>>9995830
I'm one of the office gulls, please don't kill yourself. My best friend had to drop out of school too, and I'm proud of her for fighting to make it to where she is now, because it was worth it for her. This includes multiple attempts at some things that did work and some that didn't (college classes, jobs, etc). You can still finish with a GED, so hang in there. Even if it's a struggle, take things one day at a time and don't be afraid to ask friends for help and support! That is not a burden on them, they want you to be happy!

>>9997240
You might want to ask https://www.instagram.com/rentchan/ they are really good at shapes.

>>10000301
That thing is a fucking goblin.
>>10000286
O-oh...
>>10000322
What the fuck, that thing is an eatbeast, too. Is every girrlll gaymer on twitch an uggo or a fatass?
>>10000313
I think I'll go with camming, then.

>>10000448
Or just do it the reputable way and sell thigh pics

>>10000301
Ewwwwww
>>10000322
Ewwwwww (x2)

>>10000464
>>10000322
The worst part is the fact it's not even the correct color.

>>10000301

damn that hag just redefined butterface.

>>10000465
Well tittystreamers are not that intelligent so it doesn’t surprise me

>>9995083
intellectuals just steal from the trash and goodwill.
I sometimes go over to my dad's towing business just to pick up clothing and interesting junk that he got from cars and shit.

>>10000475
yeah, i understand that but knowing that red isn't green doesn't require intelligence.

>>9995830
>graduated college at 25 after being a NEET for 4 years due to mental illness
>had a student job, but now that I've graduated, no job
>no savings because it all went to school
>have wanted to do cosplay and lolita for years, but haven't been in the place for it
>finally think it'll be alright because I have a degree
>"3-5 years of experience preferred"
>(diagnosed) depression and anxiety make interviews a struggle
>currently working an unpaid internship for "experience"
>26th birthday coming up and feeling too old to indulge in hobbies I've had for over a decade, but lost time to mental illness and a lack of resources to graduate sooner and do things to put me in a better position in life

I know that feel, anon. Reading this thread and that gulls are making 6 figures when I have $29 in my bank account makes me want to end it all. I'm basically a christmas cake and I'll never be able to cosplay anyway. I'll be too old to wear lolita by the time I can afford it. I'm more suicidal now than I was at my worst because everyone kept telling me to push through because it gets better. But maybe not for me.

I know this is controversial; but I work for it.

I'm self-employed, but no money = no materials = no cosplay.

>>10000680
Yeah seriously what the fuck is up with that.
friend graduates with a degree, starts earning six figures a year
someone else graduates with a degree, earns $15/hr or less
shits weird

>>10000680
I feel that feel. I had a similar experience. Graduated college late, struggled for years to get jobs, still only get temp gigs. Made zero progress paying off my student loans so far, I don't even want to look at them.
I have some money but its' the emergency fund and I won't destroy it just to throw money into the black pit that is student debt.
>>10000724
Daddy's connections. The guys I tutored in college now make more than I do.

>>10000680
That feel, my friend.

>be 29
>had student job, blew money on doing stuff I knew I'd never get to do again
>just graduated with degree for office work/secretary/receptionist/etc
>had to quit student job due to graduating
>small town, no big city offices to be found
>no one's hiring secretaries or receptionists
>it's all nurses, fast food, or medical physicians
>rely on the public transport due to vehicle anxiety
>nearest big city is 20+ mins away, can't take public transport there every day for job
>make some money cleaning houses for family
>can't even find a housekeeping job
>just sitting at home waiting for something to open up

I got this degree because I'm on the computer almost 24/7 anyway and I figured it'd be the one that would come in handy the quickest.. but I was wrong. Thankfully grants covered all my fees so I don't have any student debt but now there's no one hiring what I have a degree for and retail applications think I'm overqualified due to the degree.

>>10000748
Also forgot the worst part of it.

>mother tells me company she works at (local scrapyard) is hiring
>tells her boss about me, mentions I'm going back to finish a medical office degree
>"Well she'll make more money doing that than working here."
>hires someone else

>>10000748
Move to a city, gull. I was in the same position, hometown had nothing, I knew it in advance so I moved after graduation. Now I have to pay a lot in rent but there are tons of jobs around. And with public transit I don't have to drive. Well, it's still inefficient without a car, but it's doable.
Also you don't need a degree to do office work, wtf why did you do that?

>>10000754
I'm living with an elderly relative at the moment so I can't move, unfortunately.
And I couldn't find office work without the degree because every 'proper' job position I've found asked for minimum two-year degree and experience.

>>10000755
I'm sure your grandmother wants her granddaughter to doom herself to poverty for her sake.
Anyway job requirements are all bullshit. If they like you they'll hire you. And I know for a fact that most people who work as secretaries do not have any degree. I work in offices.

I have my own office job and collect 2 grand from the government monthly. I also day trade for fun when bored at work.

>>10000757
>Anyway job requirements are all bullshit. If they like you they'll hire you.

I'm sure your personality may be fantastic but they're not going to even bother going further than your CV if they don't see the qualifications they asked for on it.

>>10000764
That has not been my experience. If something asks for 2 years xp in x and I have 6 months they'll typically give you an interview anyway.
My personality is terrible but I write a damned good cover letter. Most "entry level" jobs say they want 1-3 years experience, but that's just bullshit to keep out insecure autists. If they dismiss you from the selection they can use it as an excuse so it's beneficial for them to keep that. In reality if that was enforced, no one would ever be hired. A fresh grad has no experience, at one point in time everyone had no experience, so how came they into their first experience? As I said, the requirements are not so strict as you think. Feel free to not believe me, I've only experienced this first hand after all. Of course you also think an autistic unsociable recluse who spends time posting on a weeb fashion board on the interbutts could have a "fantastic personality" so maybe you'll believe anything.

>>10000765
This guy's not wrong. Places will hire you, and at worst they'll just say "no."

>>10000765
>so how came they into their first experience?
Internships.
Also, I think the point is to be realistic. You can probably dismiss experience, but not all requirements are bullshit. You wouldn't apply to be a doctor if you studied finance, would you?

>>10000774
I would for fun if finance jobs weren't comfy.

>>10000774
You're being silly now. You know that wasn't my point.

>>10000782
You have exactly 27 seconds to re-write your point in Latin. You better work fast.

>>10000765
>how came they into their first experience?
I got my first tech job by applying for a lot of tech jobs. The interview was several hours long and they asked me a lot of technical questions. I got the impression that personality was a big part of it. The job itself didn't pay well, but the next one paid more, and the one after that paid more, etc

>>10000680
> I'll be too old to wear lolita by the time I can afford it
Who are you afraid will be judging you? Here's a secret, the difference between 29 and 30 is one day no more significant than the difference between any two other arbitrary days.

>>10000748
I wanna think we're all gonna make it, but it's hard. I wish I lived in a different part of the country, or had more experience.

>>10000801
>Who are you afraid will be judging you?
The entire world judges older people for doing things deemed for teens/young adults. Even on /cgl/, you're constantly seeing people posting, "She doesn't suite lolita, she's too old." or "Why is she even still cosplaying?" Jnig is probably younger than me and she's constantly called old. I don't want to impress anyone, but I don't want to look like a fool following subcultures I'm too old for. Not to mention there will be people ten years my junior with more experience than me, when they'll probably expect it to be the other way around. I just don't want to look anymore foolish than I already am. Sorry for the whine, anon.

>>10000765
How should I prepare for an interview that asks for 3 years of experience when I have a year or less? You say you write a damn good cover letter, but that can't be it... can it?

>>10000748
Ok maybe I’m missing something but is 20 minutes far for you? Where I live it’s super common to commute upwards of an hour in each direction. I myself commute to a big city two hours away just for a three hour meeting every Thursday. Is it because transit in general makes you nervous?

>>10000680
Well if your life revolves around wearing in lolita at a certain age, yeah life looks grim

Have you considered taking on credit card debt?

>>9997447
If you try to get into STEM only for the money you might end up failing your classes and ruining your GPA. Be careful.

>>10001114
You just have to pick your route. Confident women can wear whatever they want regardless but since you're self conscious, you can start off wearing classic or gothic which are usually more elegant than cute so they can suit older women well; pic related is the designer of Innocent World wearing the garments she's designed herself, as an example. You can always switch to sweet later on when and if you choose to do so.
Same for cosplay, and in that case you have even more possibilities: You may not be able to pull off cosplays of teenage characters but there are plenty of older characters to cosplay which will suit you fine.
Bottom line is that you shouldn't be so concerned with anonymous people's opinions that it stops you from having fun in your life.

>>10001177
I'm in a small town where the buses aren't fixed route. You have to schedule your rides ahead of time and it's mostly confined to the town area. Me trying to get into the city every day when everyone else is going to work/school in town would be a nightmare and I'd never get there on time.

>>10001114
One day, gull. One day we'll be happy.

>>10001247
I'm already drowning in student loan debt. I might have otherwise.

>>10001261
She's beautiful. Thanks, anon. I'm really not that bothered normally. I just get more upset when my birthday comes up and I'm realizing I haven't started on any of the hobbies I've been interested in for so long.

I have the same issues re:town. If I could leave, I think it would be easier. Maybe we'll find online gigs. I just want to get into these things before my looks fade, dammit.

>>10001264
Oh yikes, I get it- not having a fixed route is a killer. ): can’t be calling and wrangling for one every day of the work week. I have fixed bus routes over here, at least, even if I do spend far too much of my life commuting.

>>9995083
Patreon rewards, I quit my job for minutes of "work" a month

>>10001318

What will you do when your looks go and all your "fans" move onto younger girls?

>>10001409
don't underestimate obsessed white knights, anon.

would it be possible to do camshows or sell lewds without showing your face at all? is there a market for that? I know there are some girls that post that kind of content on twitter and tumblr but I'm not sure if they get any money out of it or if they just do it for fun

>>9995390
Jesus, how do you gulls have the energy to hate so much? This is the fifth post about hating trans people that I've seen today.
My girlfriend is a trans girl, and she's nothing like the "trannies" you've worked with. She's just trying to live her life. How would you feel if you couldn't wear your burando because people demonized you as a pervert for just trying to feel happy and comfortable?
It really sucks that you've had bad experiences with coworkers, but why generalize and demonize large groups of people you've never even met?

>>10001451
Yes, there are plenty of girls doing something similar on tumblr. Mainly selling snap chats, selling photo sets and videos with their faces cropped out. You'll have to be creative with it though, have a 10/10 body and create some sort of fantasy or something.

>>10001459
Having prejudice requires less brainpower and intellect than processing the individual characters of people.

>>10001459
Truth is that 4chan and the online lolita community is full of salty, hateful and mean people. Not all of them are like that obviously, but if you're easily put down by meanness I'd advise you either go away or ignore it. I honestly think discussing with these people is useless.

>>10001451
I'm a new camgirl and for the most part my viewers only see me from the lower half of my face and down because of the way I angle my camera. Helps if you wear a wig and more makeup than you'd normally wear. Some sites do require you show face though but you only have to for a few seconds every now and then. The only face most of them see is my overly meitu'd display picture so I'm not worried about people recognizing me if anything got reposted to other sites.

>>10001459
Nayrt but I'm pretty sure they mean the Brianna Wu type. If you've never dealt with someone like that before then you're lucky

>>10001118
Honestly jobs are piss easy but employers freak like it's the hardest shit ever. You don't need 5 years experience tying shoelaces to be able to tie a fucking shoelace. All the coworkers I've ever had were braindead retards, and these are decently paid office jobs at large corporations. I've seen cunts who type the website address into google search bar and click on it from the results...and they don't see why that is wrong. That kind of person can make 50k/year easily.

I had a question about camming. I did one show and it made alright money. Problem is I'm not a late night person, around 7-8 I get sleepy. Is there a market for mid-day shows? Or early evening? I want to do it more but staying up until 10 PM (so working 8-10) is hard.
I can't take naps mid-day, I just lay there and don't sleep.

>>10001502
Try looking at different time zones?

>>10001506
Oh. You know, Australia does exist, doesn't it? That's right. And england I guess.

>>10001502
I did an early afternoon show and a nighttime show and got more people during the early afternoon one. A lot of them said they were on from work or on mobile so there's definitely an audience for it. Just guys from different timezones or bored businessmen.

>>10001513
Cool, thank you! I'm going to try this afternoon then.

Didn't realize there were so many camgirls on /cgl/. Around how much do you make per show and what sites do you think work best? I know Momokun is pushing Camversity but they don't look like they have many viewers.

Am I the only one who still remembers when girls would brag about having a sugar daddy to pay for everything?
Remember those sugar daddy threads? I feel old.

>>9997240
I could definitely do it, but I'm probably not in your continent.

>>10001451

Yeah you can just do feet stuff e.g.

cleo_claudette_feet on insta

>>10001581
Same. Are there even any sugar daddies around now? I haven't heard of someone having one in ages.

>>10001459
I'm sure there's some normal trans people out there in theory, but let's not pretend there's not a bunch of crazies that are justifiably fueling the hate.
>couldn't wear your burando
Nothing is actually stopping him from wearing his brand. Regular lolitas get called perverts too, it's not a new thing. Just git gud and don't be a coward.

>>10001409
Don't be mad cause I'm doin me better than you doin you

>>9995083

https://sadguruband.bandcamp.com/releases

>>10001595
I get my brand via money from my sugar daddy. He's fun, we do a lot of fun things together and he loves making me happy with money, which I then spend on lolita. He likes when I wear lolita when we go out together too, so it usually means I get more money to spend on cute dresses lmao. I don't talk about it much though, a lot of people tend to look down on it for whatever reason. Yeah, we do some sexual stuff at times (not in lolita though), but most of it is just us going out on dates and me looking pretty.

>>10001888
that sounds like a regular boyfriend.

>>10001970
I don't know. none of the (2) guys I have dated gave me thousands a week just to hang out and be pretty.

>>10001971
how pretty are you i’m genuinely curious

>>10002021
Average I guess. Tbh I think I'm kinda ugly, but I have always had issues with seeing myself, so... I have a bit of an awkward face. I just think I got lucky meeting a guy that wanted to give me money.

>>10002030
>tfw pretty but when tried SD only got splenda or salt
Feels bad man.

>>10002137
This is why I quit after one date. All the guys wanted to chat me up but only one offered to take me out and he showed up late in a tshirt and cargos and offered to pay me $100 a month to meet him every weekend for sex.

>>10001971
I don't really get women in current year who expect an allowance from their boyfriend for having a vagina.
My boyfriend and I split bills proportionally so I get some benefit from him making more money, he pays for dinner sometimes, but he doesn't give me pocket money like a small child

>>10002227
Housewives, my friend.

>>10002147
>$100 a month
Did you miss a zero or do you live in venezuela? I do have one PPM guy and he hands me $350-400 every time he sees me. Wouldn't really call a ppm an sd, though.

>>10002235
Being a housewives in current year is also fucking stupid. But I guess this is the thread where people think quitting their job to stream on twitch is a solid life plan.

>>10002242
Being a housewife isn't stupid unless you marry a shitty husband, especially if you have a degree to fall back on.

>>10002243
You know you have to actually use your degree for it to be if any use, right?
Nobody is going to hire a 35 year old woman whose "job" has been "housewife" and whose degree hasn't been touched in over a decade

>>10002243
It's also just not a real job, it's what Mexicans do in between their three other jobs

>>10002245
Who cares about anything being a "real" job when the only difference is you're getting paid by your husband instead of your boss? Regardless, wanting to raise your own children is an admirable goal, not everyone wants their children to be raised by nannies and public school teachers.

>>10002247
The husbands don't usually pay that much. I can't think of anything more demeaning then begging your husband for some extra money to buy burando. Which is what all the housewife lolitas I know do.

>>10002247
Kids don't stay kids forever. What about when they go to school? Oh, right. This is usually when the housewife becomes diagnosed with fibro or other mystery illness and becomes tragically unable to work.

>>10002237
I live away from a city so I get all the shitty country splendas. Needless to say I blocked him when I got home.

>>10002254
The flip side is when the moms go back to work and the husbands bitch about not coming home to dinner ready and the house cleaned.

>>10002249
This is precisely why i never want to be a housewife. How can you not find that kind of shit degrading and embarassing?! It's no different from begging for pocket money from your parents, might as well still live with them.

>>10002243
Bitch your degree doesn't mean jackshit if you have been unemployed for a lengthy amount of time. Why do you think you see all those graduates complaining about not having a job? It's because they never had any expeience working at all.

Just do what some other mooching cosplay thots have done and bag/marry a loser who makes good cash

>>10002227
I was replying to the anon who said it sounded like a typical boyfriend. Of course they don't, and I'd never expect a partner o give me money.

>>9995083
I work.

I work a STEM job and it pays decently. I have a roommate so I do not spend too much on rent.

It is about 1600-2000+ a month, no utilities etc. for a studio/one bed in my area.

Really trying hard to save, but those luxuries and vacations don't just pay for themselves. Rip

I must be hideous no men ever offer me money

I work in transport $120k per annum, most of it is pent on travelling and lolita fashion.

I worked a retail management job for several years. On top of my salary, I'd get sales bonuses which could equal a new dress or something nice every month. For awhile I was buying something new every month. I had enough to pay for bills, put some into savings and spend on hobbies.

The stress level was too high, I was developing anxiety issues. I couldn't actually enjoy the hobbies I was investing in because I could never get away to enjoy them or didn't have the energy to be in the moment when I was able to.

Ultimately I quit for a lower paying job where I'm a lot happier and have more time. I'm doing graphic and web design for a small company. It's a work from home job. I make about half of what I was making before, but it gives me the opportunity to learn more programming languages and focus on what makes me happier. I do artist alley too, and that helps keep my hobbies funded.

>>10007336
Bay Area?

I have a low intensity sales job which pays okay, just enough to be able to splurge on occasional materials or props, but more importantly i make my own schedule, work from home, and it's deadlines are fluid, so if I want I can do a weeks worth of sales work in 2 days and just coast the other 3 while working on cosplay.

I used to be more carefree with it before I got married, but now my wife of course disapproves of such schemes and asked me to budget my hobby better. As a result I've given up all but the most basic materials such as cardboard, felt and hot glue, and just make it work. Honestly it's very rewarding, results arent as professional looking as eva foam and paint, but it's still therapeutic and outfits continue to look alright.

My rule of thumb is if I cannot build it with $50 or less including new tools I'd have to get to finish, then I dont do it.

>>10007472
Trucker loli?

>>10007774
Haha, the other one. Maritime.

>>10007836
So what do you actually do and how did you get into it?

>>10007627
Is there any reason why it's your wife's business? Like you share income or you aren't paying expenses you should?
I only ask because for some reason a lot of guys give up hobbies after marriage for no clear reason other than their wife is insane

>>10007995
Not that anon, but I bet it's her business so they can manage cost. Once you get a wife, you pretty much share income. There's stuff to save for: emergencies, children, better housing, and all sorts of stuff. I agree with you about usually they're just insane, but, mind you, he never said his wife asked him to give up his hobby. His wife just said, "Can you please not spend 200+ on EVA foam."

>>9995083
I'm a cleaning lady/part-time housekeeper. I make about 30k/year and get random household appliances, mid range makeup and bags full of nice normie clothes from the women whose houses I clean.
I wear Mori and Nanchatte, so I don't spend that much anyway.

>>10008006
How is it? Do you work with a team? How does one make 30k from it?

I mainly ask because I hate working with people and dont mind cleaning if I can do it alone.

>>10007614
LA area.

>>10008014
I work alone. It's not a terrible job, but it is physically demanding and tedious, and there's no job stability - clients can drop you without warning if they run into some money troubles. Currently, I have 6 weekly houses and 1 monthly.
If you're a born-and-bred American you might have to start at a maid service. I'm an immigrant, so I started cleaning houses with my mom during summer vacation back in middle school. Then she let me take over two of those houses, and my other clients found me through recommendations from their friends.
People tend to prefer their cleaning ladies to be foreign, or at least noticeably poorer than them, which is why many cleaning ladies I know tend to obscure the fact that they're middle class soccer moms.
The hardest part is probably breaking into the industry. Once you're in, word of mouth will carry you forward.

>>10007926
I work at the port authority in vessel traffic services (a bit like air traffic control ) No previous qualifications needed, just skillsets, ability to work in a team for 12hrs shifts and sometimes in urgent situations, eg. This week we saved 3 people from the water after their boat broke and had sunken in search & rescue scenario.

The maritime industry is probably the best kept secret for high wages, it's not as glamourous as some ther profession but it pays very well. If you're willing to sacrifice your youth and work offshore it's worth it (not best if you suffer from mental health illnesses since it can be an isolated place.)

Im an Analyst

Cant go to Yemen but can afford cosplay

>>10008154
are you m or f

>>10008215
F

>>10008209
Nice :p

>>10007995
What this guy said basically
>>10007999

Sure I could splurge on better equipment or materials or even buy actual replicas, but at the end ofthe day i just want to scratch that creative itch, and cardboard and hot glue do the trick just fine without having to dip into vacation savings.

Plus once you are on your own, anything that previously seemed like pocket disposable cash now becomes principal mortgage payments or investments.

>>9995142
Depends on your specialization and industry. I'm in the gaming industry with a specialization in marketing research and I pull $60K.

I've been in the industry for a few years though, expect closer to $40K at the ground level.

>>9996396
Truth

>>10008006
I'm gonna assume that people give you these clothes/ appliances/ makeup, but it sounds like you're stealing jsyk

Another engineer here. I switched companies and took a pay cut so I only make 95k. Unlimited PTO though means unlimited cons so I don't have to worry about saving vacation days. My student loan debt is a bitch though, I own a home and have a car payment so I curbed my spending. My boyfriend buys me brand on occasion though. He's a keeper.

>>10010307
>Unlimited PTO
What the hell company do you work for

>>9995142

If you work in data analytics and have some mild amount of technical skill (SQL) you should easily be making 100k/yr before you hit 30..

>>10010730
Any other tips? I'm learning sql

>>10010726
NAYRT but a lot of companies are starting to do this now. Obviously if you're taking so much PTO that you're not even completing your work, that's an issue, but most people don't do that. It started with new, "hip" companies doing this and so employees were leaving to work for those, so now even your older companies are starting to adopt the unlimited PTO policy so they're not leaking talent.

I'm doing a PhD.

>>9995143
All I needed to read was ton of monies, I don't really care about my health as long as I can gain the monies to support my hobbies and comforts

>>10010726
Fintech

>>10010762
Data analytics requires a lot more than "just knowing SQL". I know plenty of QA analysts and product managers that know their way around a database and can write queries. Read up on cloud services, message streaming platforms and services, learn about effective logging, try looking at some job postings and reading up about the tools companies are using. Good luck!

>>9995143
Have you considered finding an employment lawyer to take you on contingency, document every OSHA violations you're subjected to, sue, and pocket the settlement as tuition?

>this entire thread
>girls selling (views of) their bodies
>all to buy cute dresses
I'm not sure whether I should be more bemused, or appalled at this state of affairs.

>>10011142
It's easy money mate.

>>10011167
I wish one day for a world where people won't need money to engage in their favorite cosplays.

And no one will go hungry either. Definitely have to get that down first.

>>10001459
Have you ever considered its just that the majority of people aren't excited to welcome abominations? Tell your boyfriend hi.

>>10001177
Something tells me this chick would find an excuse to not work if there was an office building next door to her. Some people can't be helped.