/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9991595
I'm sure this will be a great thread.

>>9991595
does anyone have any other weird obsession captions like this though? Or just interesting ones? I’ve seen this one like five times in the past couple of years and it’s getting old.

>>9991595
The same reason why anime and video games do too

>mentally ill are often social outcasts
>cosplay and lolita are abnormal
>fit in by not fitting in
>attention
/thread

What *I* don't understand is, why do people with issues come flocking over to the lolita community KNOWING that a big ass part about us is that we're catty, mean, bitchy and just fucking rude to idiots who don't follow the rules of the fashion. Not just big rules, like not wearing a pettie, over even not having a fucking blouse anymore, we're becoming a bit more lackadaisical with that, I've noticed.

But it's stuff like "look what I got at Goodwill. It's a HelloKitty skit. #lolita #classic90s" and they know, they fucking KNOW they'll get a big ol' nope from very "mean" people.

>>9991643
well that is party of what is wrong with them, isn't it? If they can't tell that they're getting a poor reaction for a reason, they're not all there, are they?

>>9991652

I just don't get that (maybe cause I'm not ill) but you just CAN'T think it's good when you see what is actually good?

>>9991657
That's just it, though.

They are so mentally gone that they don't understand why what they are wearing is not the same as what others are wearing.

I will bite. I have really bad social anxiety and wearing natural kei and sometimes lolita has really helped. Instead of walking out of the house terrified, I tell myself that people are just staring at me because of what I am wearing and not because of me. I wear mostly classic lolita when I do wear lolita. I have had so many people compliment me on my outfits and it does help with the anxiety a little a bit. I really do try to work in a conversation too. However, because of my anxiety, I prefer to be a lone lolita and usually just wear my natural kei stuff instead unless I am feeling really bold.

I am starting to take citalopram, but I feel like it really isn't helping.

I'm already not normal, might as well be not normal and feel cute

>>9991665
Also, sometimes I feel like Jfashion is the only thing that keeps me sane. I need to take care of my health and complexion to look decent and fit in the clothes I want. I need to be competent at my job to make money to buy the clothes I want. It has really helped me become a better person.

>>9991667
Exactly anon.

>>9991657
Thats not really mental illness, just lack of knowledge in fashion. When I was in high school and had an ita phase, I always knew something was off, but never cared enough to fix it.
I do think a lot of lolitas have autism or are on the spectrum which makes it harder for them to care a lot about looking good. But I don't know.

>>9991667
I feel like so many people think they're not normal that it's become not normal to accept normality. Every lolita i know always go on about how different they are, like they somehow break the mould because they dress weird a couple times a month or because others don't "understand" them.
Most aspects of your life are normal and you could probably identify with most of the people around you if you get past your ego. I'm so tired of the teenagers in my comm with this same "i'm so not normal!" mentality like normal isn't subjective and most people think they are different than others based on random arbitrary shit

>>9991665
I am the exact same, man. How long have you been on citalopram?

I already feel like an outsider. Might as well ostracize myself more and dress out of the norm.

Plus, like one anon said, I don't have to be as paranoid about staring if I'm wearing something pretty

>>9991672
I have started about a month ago, but I have not been taking it reliably. I still feel that the medicine won't "fix" me, but my doctor said, that I won't know until I take it consistently for a few weeks.

>>9991643
>>9991660

I'm with you on this, but I also think fashion rags are to blame for part of this -- they run so many "Get this look for less" without ever emphasising that the look you're getting for less is, well less.

I mean, here's a spread presumably done by sane, non-mentally-ill non-lolita, where they simply leave it up to you to figure out that the cheap outfit doesn't even look decent because the celeb outfit is tailored leather and the cheap one looks like housewear.

The spreads often come with some shit blurb like "Look we're so smart! You don't have to spend $500 to look cool! Look at us being totally clever!" like uhhh right. So I'm not really surprised if some dumb people do transfer that attitude over to lolita with Hello Kitty and then can't figure out why reality doesn't match their mental picture of the "Look I'm so smart! I got the same look for less and didn't need to buy a $300 dress!"

It's definitely an attention thing for a lot. You wear lolita, you get attention out on the street, and people online like your outfits for once. Their personality is getting that attention. I see it a lot in ED communities. People post body checks and outfit pics just so people can go "Uwaa you're so perfect"
And I think for others who are on the spectrum just like it because it's cute and nice but are bad at coordinating or don't understand why others don't like what they like. They think a brown skirt and blue socks looks awesome because they don't fully understand? They just like it.
I wear lolita, and I got into it when I was really sick with an eating disorder and I worshipped angelic pretty. I'm fairly recovered now but I'm still pretty bitchy when it comes down to it. And I like attention.

>>9991676
that thing wouldn't cost $5, much less $149 what a disaster

>>9991675
Medicine won't fix you and that's something you'll inevitably realise when you get off it for a while. When you find the right one it does help though. You'll probably have to switch around a lot, and it's hard, but I wish you the best at figuring it out

>>9991680
Thank you. I do hope I can figure things out.

>>9991672
>it's become not normal to accept normality
Strong agreement. "Sticking out" is the new "fitting in". The funniest part is how certain groups of unusual-looking people (such as lolitas and goths) encourage normalized appearances within their groups.

>>9991675
I take citalopram too. Take it reliably, set an alarm to remind you to take it every day if that would help. If you take it consistently every day for 2 months and you don't feel different try asking your doctor to increase the dosage.

I think theres a distinction to make here, because I do have a mental illness but im not socially retarded.

I have bipolar disorder, and when I have manic episodes theres something about having full control over things like making a coord that feel so satisfying. Instead of nitpicking my life, i nitpick color balances and details of my outfit laid before me. When I’m depressive lolita makes me feel beautiful even when I cant think of a positive thing about myself otherwise.

But it also seems to attract the socially stunted. These are people who cant talk to people, cant hold a job, probably use terms like ‘spoons’, and havent really mentally aged past high school weeb. These people I think have such little human interaction that they look for niche hobbies for the sake of uniqueness. They arent interesting people to interact with (or even pleasant with their oversharing/sperging over some videogame), so they look for something to FEEL special or different. But of course get buttmad bc they dont grasp the concept of the fashion and cry when told otherwise.

However, this is from my experience. Not just from online communities but irl at meets as well as conventions.

>>9991643
Right? This applies especially to sissies and other kinky freaks. It's probably because they're masochists and get off on being stamped on. That's why you keep records of them inviting under aged members to sleepovers and report them to the police. Also always check your local sex offender registry. Old ass perverts may have been on there for a while.

>>9991692
I've been thinking about this a lot recently, but I got a job with "normies" (what we on /cgl/ would call normies) and I got to know a lot of them. I realised something they all do, and it's something a lot of lolitas do, almost everyone I've ever met does- they think they're super different based on an arbitrary personality trait or interest that many many people share with them. Like one girl at my work thinks she's so crazy because she gets angry easily, these two dudes were calling others normies because they like memes, play fortnite, and go on discord... I would go to cons and I often felt people would compete amongst another for attention, the friends I would make at cons would eventually srop the "im so weird" onto me. Everyone thinks they are different than others even though they aren't. I've met that same person over and over, and to them I am also that same person, too. In high school i was that person but when depression snuck up on me I became certain there was nothing special about me beyond the fabric I wear and even that isn't very strange depending on where you are and who you are.
I mean, to me, the ultimate normie isnt a chad or stacey (I speak to those people so little and they speak to me so little that I actually consider them the "weird" ones now) it's girls who have "not like most girls syndrome" and the guys who spout memes and play vidya all day, but to them they're the unique ones.
Normie is almost never personal, too. Normies are almost always unrelated in personality to them. guys who play fortnite think everyone who doesn't play fortnite is a normie. Incels think everyone getting laid is normie. Lolitas think everyone who isn't lolita is normie.

We will always have a unique perspective on ourselves. Perhaps the least normal thing we can do is become aware of that and move past our own egos.

I've been thinking about this a lot recently. I got a job with "normies" (what we on /cgl/ would call normies). I realised something they all do, and it's something a lot of lolitas do, almost everyone I've ever met does, which is that they think they're super different based on an arbitrary personality trait or interest that many many people share with them. One girl at my work thinks she's so crazy because she gets angry easily. these two dudes were complaining about normies, and considered themselves not normies because they like memes, play fortnite, and go on discord. These things (to me) are not interesting, but to them, it was a unique aspect of their personality.
I would go to cons and I often felt people would compete amongst another for attention. the friends I would make at cons would eventually drop the "im so weird" card on me, just like my coworkers. Everyone thinks they are different than others even though they aren't really that different at all. I've met that same person over and over, and to them I am also that same person, too. In high school i was that person, but when depression snuck up on me I became certain there was nothing special about me beyond fashion, but even that isn't very strange depending on where you are and who you are.

>>9991716
(2/2) I mean, to me, the ultimate normie isnt a chad or stacey (I speak to those people so little and they speak to me so little that I actually consider them the "weird" ones now) it's girls who have "not like most girls syndrome" and the guys who spout memes and play vidya all day. This is a perception based on experience.
Normie is almost never personal, too. Normies are almost always unrelated in personality to the "outlier". guys who play fortnite think everyone who doesn't play fortnite is a normie. Incels think everyone getting laid is normie. Lolitas think everyone who isn't lolita is normie.

We will always have a unique perspective on ourselves. Perhaps the least normal thing we can do is become aware of that and move past our own egos.
Also these were meant to be a reply to >>9991692. oops

>>9991716
>>9991718

Idk I wouldn't really consider those people you talk about as "normies." Believe it or not, there are people who perceive themselves as very "normal" and want to be that way. The worst case I saw of this was my former workplace where one of my coworkers gleefully made fun of me for even saying something she found out of line. I can't really think of anything remotely interesting about her other than her sketchy multilevel marketing schemes and her being a mom (which doesn't really count). She'd spend a lot of time talking to others and trying to measure herself up to them to try to be, well, as aggressively average in every sense of the word.

Anyways hormones exist. If you work in the right type of environment like I am right now you thankfully never have to actually run into a deliberately dull person, but they definitely exist.

>>9991733
>normies

Not hormones autocorrect

Anyways obviously definitions probably differ but that's what I would consider a normie. I think they're more common in small towns where there's a shared sense of community and nobody really wants to stick out.

>>9991692

>normalized appearances within their groups

This is the part I feel the stupider ones have trouble getting. Neither lolita nor goth were ever created to be "special" to begin with. Both of them are very specific interest groups for people to find other people who like the same aesthetic.

Of course it's going to normalize around that particular aesthetic. That. is. the. point. of. the. group.

Not only do these "sticking out" people don't even like the aesthetic we joined the group for, they seem to think we're also the same kind of stupid attentionwhroes that they are. That's just doubly insulting.

Has anyone else noticed both cosplay and Lolita attract a lot of promiscuous women? People into poly relationships, one night stands at cons etc. And if you ever question it they go apeshit and start accusing you of slut shaming.

Slutty cosplay is cute admittedly. They're fucked up.

>>9991744
I'll agree with you about cosplay, but my comm only really has one girl in it who I'd call promiscuous. I think slutty behaviour is something that is often (partially) the result of a low self esteem and it can be part of a personality disorder such as borderline. And those two things, especially insecurity, you're gonna find more in girls who are "different" or a bit ostracized in daily life.
On top of that, heavily generalizing of course, but weeb girls might have never experienced much male attention in high school, causing them to crave it more than your average normie girl.

>>9991744
In cosplay, yeah, but I don't see it very often in lolita so I don't know what you're talking about.

>>9991744
I think that has more to do with the age group

>>9991744
Not in good Lolita, in incorrigable itas and ageplayers it's rife. Poly out of desperation, it's disgusting.

>>9991595
Mental illness means little to no friends and having always been ostracized so there is no pressure from the social group to dress a certain (normie) way or indulge in certain (normie) hobbies in an effort to fit in and maintain friends. There is more acceptance of the "weird" and different that other people would normally reject. Plus, lolita and cosplay are "weeb" things that can only be discovered if you spend a lot of time online and in those circles, which so far was something normies didn't do (it's been changing though).

>>9991716
The moral of that story is 'You are unique... just like everybody else'.

>>9991766
I get the feeling a lot of weeb girls have really low self esteem bordering on self hatred. I think the asian obsession comes out of this, like if you hate yourself a lot, and hate your own ethnic background it seems logical to put other races on a pedestal and to want to idolise, date and marry them.

I don't necessarily think that these hobbies attract more mentally ill people than anything else, but the nature of interaction within these communities (the fact that we're mostly online, the fact that the most active people are usually younger people, the fact that community activities are based around socialization rather than the activity itself as opposed to something like sports) means that people are more likely to be open about mental illness.

Have you hung out in a quilting circle? Those people are all discussing their marital issues and functional alcoholism. Hung out with bloggers/influencers? They're often fighting body image issues, anxiety, or addictions and are often open about it, even on their blogs outright. Hung out with actors or musicians? They're all on drugs, it's rampant. Hung out in any fandom community? Those folks are so open about their mental illnesses that it makes a lot of people feel like they have to have one of their own just to fit in.

>>9991802
I come across more guys who are obsessed with dating Asians. Do you think that's because of self-hatred too?

>>9991802
This is true. And it's telling that a lot of these girls are from some Midwestern shithole usually. They're also that weird sort of sjw who call out whites for racism but will always find excuses for say, Koreans doing blackface.

>>9991809

I think you're right at younger ages. But I find that most male weebs grow out of it more easily. It's far more common to meet female weebs well into their 20s who are like that, even if as teenagers the numbers were equally spread. Unironically makes you think why this disparity emerges.

>>9991820
Yeah. Tends to be white girls from smaller towns who are like that.

>>9991733
Well, as i said, the idea of a normie is completely subjective based on ones experiences. I know "dull" people but they are mostly adults who have kids and probably have the mentality that once you drop a baby you can't go back. Also, to me, deliberately striving to be average is pretty damn weird. Much weirder than trying to be quirky or weird.
Anyways I never said people can't really be normal or strive for it. There's like 8 billion people on earth, so there's tons of everything.
I think a large part of why mostly millennial have this tryhard uneeq personally is because we were fed the "be yourself!" "you're unique!" and "strive to be different!" mentality.

Anyways again, you have to understand that in many circles you are a normie. I've noticed this mentality that "bitchy /cgl/ user" is somehow an outlier in the lolita community when I've met so many bitchy lolitas and they're all the same. But to normies I'm sure the experience is weird.
I feel like doing things to be different or weird rather than doing things for oneself is not only lame as hell, but toxic to the person because they aren't really being themselves, rather the person they've let others make them.

>>9991824
I disagree with the growing out of it thing. I know a lot of dudes in my gaming community who really want an asian gf and i've heard of men moving to asia to get one. I think you're being biased based on your own experience, regardless of gender, woman-children and man-children are both plentiful in the community.

>>9991707
>They arent interesting people to interact with (or even pleasant with their oversharing/sperging over some videogame)
not only are you correct, anon. I admit to being that person. At least with Lolita, you have a safe topic to focus on. Plus if people approach you outside of a convention to ask about your clothes you at least get that moment or two of practice in. Not excusing anyone's spaghetti dropping but I at least, am trying to get better. Wish me fucking luck.

>>9991857
How many men do you know who have honestly moved to Asian for gf? Because on lolcow it seems like the vast majority of the ultra turbo weebs of that ilk are girls

>>9991824
I've seen more older men having yellow fever than women, whose liking of Asian men seems completely dictated to liking k-pop and anime and is quite a new occurrence. For men this is not usually connected to liking Asian culture though, more about wanting a submissive and OTT feminine wife.

>>9991673
Fuck this hits the nail on the head for me. People stare at me a lot no matter if I'm wearing normie shit or lolita, wearing lolita gives me a reason to understand why people stare.

>>9991884

lolcow is not representative of the entire weeb community, and lolcow is mostly women iirc.
I'm in a japanese class and I know 2 dudes who have moved to japan, and like 4 more who've told me they want to marry a japanese woman. Also I know a few dudes who love jpop and obsess over the idols.
Yellow fever exists for men, there's no data for how many men/women are doing that shit, perhaps its close, but I think you are just ignoring the men who actually have yellow fever based again, on personal experience. I know there are women out there who do it too but i think it's damn close. I think people who see it as "problematic" to have yellow fever here in the west don't realize most asian people don't care or even see it as a compliment. Western people are so obsessed with our own politics that we apply it to everyone. The only people I know who care about "yellow fever" and are upset about it are white people and very westernised Asian people. There's also quite a few japanese men who are "gaijin hunters" and want a western wife

>>9991901
Obviously most non white people think whites are more attractive. Even moreso among the men. But that just means we should protect our own genes more and only make white babies as clearly even non white people believe us to be aesthetically superior. Plus mixed relationship and kids equals all sorts of difficulties!

>>9991901

I don't see it in those sjw terms. It's always viewed as the white partner, male or female, as being predatory. But actually the white partner is usually the victim of low self esteem and self hatred that ethnic men exploit.

>>9991906

>>9991937
Nothing Pol about what was said there snowflake.

Pretty sure all hobbies have some level of potatoes flocking to them and cosplay/jfashion is no exception not special in this regard.

>>9991956
>blatant white purity propoganda
>ITS NOT POL YOU S-SNOWFLAKE

>>9991884
I personally know 3, they go there through JET (teach English in Japan program) but end up all the way out in the boonies and can't get a gf and end up coming home all sad a year later. I don't know as many girls who do this because they're usually attractive enough to land an Asian-American in the states. Obviously, US perspective over here.

>>9991884
What yellowfever female weebs does lolcow talk about? I can only think of a handful that actually date/marry asian men. Most hardcore white female weebs end up with other white male weebs

>>9991901
There are a lot more Asian women married to white men than the reverse, just Google it. That being said, I am a white woman with an Asian guy and I really hope people don't actually assume we are together because of "yellow fever" on my part. Idgaf about race, we just have a lot in common.

>>9992000
no matter what you say or do, if you’re a nonasian woman into cosplay or jfashion people are going to accuse you of yellow fever. those people don’t matter, as long as you’re both happy

>>9992000
I do intend to marry in japan, but it's because i want to live there to teach. The race of the guy is not important but its likely they will be japanese because of the setting.

Like i said, westerners have this tendency to apply western logic to everything. White people are bad no matter where they go, even if it's often japanese men who pursue them (see gaijin hunters)

>>9991671
Wouldn't a lolita with autism care more about how it looks? I'm genuinely curious.

>>9991682
Nayrt but I like to think of meds like glasses: they’re a tool that helps you see things/feel things “correctly”. Learning to read/process things is up to you.

>>9992002
>>9992034
Yeah I don't really care what people think (obviously as I wear lolita lol) but it baffles me how white people are so quick to judge other white people's personal lives. And yes Asian guys are often totally into white women and somehow that's OK but not the other way around. (he was the one who asked me out when we started dating). He's s not Japanese though, although we are both big japanophiles which is one of the reasons we get along.

>>9992043
depends on the autist. the thing with autism is that it's basically sending you on a single track to ONE particular way of doing things and if it's not the right way, convincing yourself it's wrong is almost impossible. if you look good, you look fucking amazing. if you don't, you won't

>>9992000
>don't actually assume we are together because of "yellow fever"

You're posting on cgl. It's highly unlikely you're telling the truth here.

>>9992034
I don't think white people are bad. But if it's your life aim to teach English in Japan to the point you want to live there then I'd seriously hope you're not over the age of 21 because that's fucking stupid.

And everyone knows it's more the case that Japanese and Asian men pursue them than vice versa. To most normie white women, asian men are effeminate and unattractive. It's only in weeb social circles that you find any popularity for them.

>>9992056
>And yes Asian guys are often totally into white women and somehow that's OK but not the other way around

I think it's both pretty weird when someone wants a partner who looks absolutely nothing like them but that's just me.

>>9992056
I think it's one of those social things where Asian men aren't really held up as being attractive at all to Westerners (but Asian women are because "exotic") so the default position is that you must have another 'reason' i.e. yellow fever.

>>9992056

Both Asian men and Asian women are far, far more into White women and men than the other way around. Agreed. Are you guys familiar with r/asianmasculinity and r/aznidentity? They're hugely popular subreddits among young Asian men where the main focus is on how the media needs to encourage more relationships between white women and Asian men.

Asian Americans are absolutely embarrassing!

>>9992081
>where Asian men aren't really held up as being attractive at all to Westerners

What do you mean by being held up? It's statistical fact that Asian men are ranked lowest on order of average attractiveness by white women.

>(but Asian women are because "exotic")

That's also incorrect. Asian women aren't viewed as attractive as white women by white normie men.

>>9991744
How come 4chan is the only site I see anymore that cares about this sort of thing and actually still holds the point of view that if you sleep around, there is something mentally wrong with you like
>>9991766

>>9992083
That's correct. The problem with weeaboo social circles is that they're massive echo chambers for what's actually a tiny minority of the population. I remember during my yellow fever phase I told my friends about how hot Asian girls were and they'd always mock me by saying that Asian women look like pubescent boys.

Same with most white women. As much as it will annoy some people ITT there's just no way the likes of bts will ever be considered as attractive as the more classically western beauty standards for men.

Basically it's viewed as strange in both cases. I've never actually met an Asian guy with a white girl where the girl wasn't into Asian media hugely

>>9992082
Asian Americans are known as "the sjw race". The two Asian guys I know with white girls constantly whine about white guys with Asian girls and I'm thinking to myself "you're both the same shit!" I know that type of attitude is massively common among Asian American men. They blame their emasculation on the media whereas the reality is they just look like little girls

>>9992084
Would you like to defend your promiscuity or something?

>>9992088
I'm in a monogamous relationship, so no? Why are you making assumptions just because I want to discuss the other part of the argument there?

>>9992087

Asian dudes whining about WMAF has been going on for literally decades. But if they're in a relationship with a white girl while doing it then that's the height of hypocrisy. Watch out for these toxic Asian dudes, white lolis.

>>9992056

Are you really comfortable dating someone who is into you as a trophy or fetish?

>>9992094
get off the internet and meet some real people. not every interracial relationship is the result of a fetish. of course asshole asian incel douchebags like >>9992090 talks about and the reddit guys exist, but thats a small minority. if you're in any kind of interracial relationship you should avoid any partner who expresses misogynist views for women of their own race. this goes for asian men, black men, and white men.

>>9992083
>Asian women aren't viewed as attractive as white women by white normie men.

not true, since most studies that show how asian men are the least desired, also show that asian women are the most desired. asian women are fetishized even outside of anime/kpop shit, since asian women have been featured more prominently in western media as desirable.

>>9992085
>Basically it's viewed as strange in both cases. I've never actually met an Asian guy with a white girl where the girl wasn't into Asian media hugely

Doesn't that mean if asian men were featured more as romantic partners in western media that more women would find them attractive?

>>9992084
Most people think sluts are bad. The world is far from tumblr. I know conservative propaganda youtube channels like to push the idea that the world is becoming tumblr, but it's really not, people still hate sluts and women who sleep around.

>>9992080
>I think it's both pretty weird when someone wants a partner who looks absolutely nothing like them
so go fuck your brother then? That's a weird way of putting it. I don't date people because they look like me

>>9992099
>not true

Lol. You post the response rate without posting the rest of the data. Every single major survey of dating data thus far has shown white people displaying massive in-group preference. Both men and women.

>Doesn't that mean if asian men were featured more as romantic partners in western media

No. Since anime and manga already mainly attract alienated people in the west. Keep dreaming of your amwf world LOL.

Moreover there aren't as many depictions of wmaf as you think. Most interracial relationships in film are non white male with white female.

>>9992079
I've lived in japan before and I really liked it, everybody has different dreams anon just because you don't understand doesn't mean it's stupid.

>>9992103
what films have you seen or are you only thinking about movies made in the last ten years? white dude goes to exotic land and gets native woman as prize was a whole genre in the 40s 50s and 60s

>>9992102
We can relate more to faces like our own, in terms of being able to empathize with them. Plus it ensures children who will resemble us in some way. It's rare for racially mixed children to resemble their white mothers in any way.

Most women want children who look like them, not Fu Manchu.

>>9992108
Well yeah I'm thinking of recent movies obviously. the big sick, that creepy Indian accused of sexual harassment on Netflix etc.

No shit I'm not thinking of 70 year old movies anon

>>9992109
That's...weird. do you plan to have kids with everyone you date? Also I don't look anything like my bf but i've never struggled to empathise with them. I mean, it makes sense, but I feel like once you grow up and develop empathy you can love anyone.

not going to lie, couples that look alike creep me out a lot. I don't judge, but I can't help but think about it.

>>9992104
It's just not a career. Not in the slightest. It makes me think you're there to wait to get married. Which is dumb.

>>9992099
That's absolutely not a minority of Asian American men anon. The majority feel that way deep down. They're entitled as fuck: want white women while also wanting asian women to only consider them.

>>9992112
>couples that look alike creep me out a lo

Obviously. You're motivated by bitterness towards normal mainstream white couples and probably an "AMWF advocate". Let them enjoy their non anime/K-pop/self hatred fueled relationships and I'm sure they'll let you enjoy your higher divorce rates and children who are more likely to be mentally ill.

>>9992113
My main goal is to teach, not marriage, as I said. It's just something that would probably end up happening since I do want to marry one day. Also I know a few people who have made careers out of it. My dads friend has lived there for 20 years teaching english, and my neighbour did for 5-6.

also, I don't understand why americans are so sensitive about race preference. I know sometimes it's stereotyped based and that's shitty, but I feel like you guys try to paint everyone with bad intention rather than a select few. Your priorities are not in order.

>>9992112

That's cool. Asian male/White female couples at anime cons and comms meets creep me out too. Good thing that's only where I ever see that sort of coupling.

>>9992080
It may be hard to believe, but we're not all raging narcissists

>>9992117
If you think Americans are the only race conscious people in the world then lol. Wait until you spend five years in Japan. And teaching English as a dream? Really?... Damn.

>>9992120
Majority of people seem to agree with quoted anon though. In-group preference is a real thing in psychology and sociology. Both romantically and otherwise. I wouldn't call it narcissism.

>>9992109
>Most women want children who look like them, not Fu Manchu.

Or maybe women want children who look like their partner because they love their partner? You /pol/ folk have such a bleak view of humanity it’s depressing.

>>9992112
Yeah. I hate people creating things like blond and red hair by having kids with genetically similar people with recessive traits. We should all look like black haired bugmen with the same yellow face instead.

>>9992121
proud of it, I'll be moving there in the next couple years. It's not my main goal in life, but it's one of my dreams. "sad" maybe but at least I'm going to do it, not many people can say that about their dreams.
Also I never said "race conscious" i brought up a specific situation, Americans like you get mad triggered just because of race preference, mostly when it's not about you.
You are just really racist and it's pretty pathetic because it sounds like it's rooted in jealousy and self hatred. I hope you get help, and I hope you get to follow your dreams too, whatever they may be

>>9992123
>Wanting to be a breeding vessel for your different race partner's children

YIKES

>>9992128
jokes on you anon, i am already a mixed race mutt

>>9992126
I'm not American. And yes, that's a stupid dream to have because it gives you no back up plan.

>>9992130
Never said I don't have a back up plan, anon. My family also has my back if it goes bad, so I'm going to be fine.

>>9991675
It takes about 2 months for them to take effect Anon. Also meds only make most symptoms easier to deal with. They don't fix them. Though I'm on escitalopram and they at least got rid of my regular panic attacks. Now it's back to regular anxiety.

>>9992131
So let's say you marry a jap and have a nasty divorce. What's your plan? To just go back home and be a NEET?

>>9992109
Fun bit of trivia for you, every actor who has played Fu Manchu (who is a fictional character) has been white.

>>9992134
Yep but they were yellowfaced up to look like a chink

>>9992133
I'd probably move home and apply for work overseas in other countries while working for my father.
What would you do in that situation?

>>9992138
What kind of work would you apply for? I'm guessing you're a continental European right? Italian?

And what if you had a mixed child?

>>9992149
What is this? an interview? I'm not Italian, anon. I don't ever want kids but if I had one I guess I'd love it and try to give it a good life

>>9992109
I'm ugly, I don't wanna date someone looking like me.

>>9992112
Couples that look the same remind me of incest

Ww/am anon here
>>9992082
>>9992087
My SO didn't grow up in the US so fortunately he isn't hung up on race like those who were born here. desu I think he's more into Japanese women than white women anyways,not that he would admit it to me lol.

>>9992154
>not that he would admit it to me
hmm

>>9991676
>they run so many "Get this look for less" without ever emphasising that the look you're getting for less is, well less
The audience is too poor to afford the look for more. So either the magazine changes its target, or it adapts to the resources of its readers.

>>9992128
As if you're as pure as you think you are.

>>9991672
How do you know if you're really not normal?

>>9992128
>people that think this way
thats the real yikes


>>9991965
This
theres always nutbags in every hobby, especially in hobbies like art lmao

>>9992194
I hope their pure aryan children grow up and date my mixed children. Maybe get married and have some super mixed babies. Serves them right.

>>9992204

That's also very weird and creepy that the idea of white people preferring one another makes you so angry.

>>9992153
>Couples that look the same remind me of incest

And your type of couple reminds me of autistic nerds and reddit incels. Asian American men are trash.

Why can't we just love each other and not care about other people's preferences jfc

I'd talk about how it relates back to lolita but that's another existing thread. This thread is so far derailed but I gusss that's what we get for replying to b8

Anyway,
Speaking of mental illness, is menhera still around? I recall we had threads about it but people would just end up arguing r.i.p.
People would usually claim that they either just like the aesthetic or it actually helps them cope with their illness which is super interesting.

>>9991665
>>9991667
>>9991668
Anon already said everything that was in my mind. Love y'all

Can we have someone nuke this thread. it's become cancerous

>>9992241
i think menhera is getting more popular by the day, but it seems like people aren’t focusing on the mental illness aspect as much

>>9991595
why are ugly roasties like you so intimidated by cute boys?

>>9992351
who?

>>9992241
It's because menhera attracts insane borderline bitches and they can't have a normal thread without going off the fucking rails.

>>9992273
You can blame the refinery doc on it.
>>9992369
More like because of certain shitposters, plus non-lolita jfash threads are dead in general since this year.

>>9992391
No, really it was the mentally ill posters in the thread who couldn't ignore a few shitposts. Every other thread has shitposters but none besides maybe the plus size threads have the rate of derailment that menhera threads had.

>>9992414
The menhera threads end up getting nuked by jannies and whatever trolling and derailment happens in plus size threads, I've never seen the entire thread deleted over it.

>>9991643
It's because people are afraid of being Called Out as ~problematic meanies~ on platforms like IG/Facebook that are often attached to real names and not anonymous personas like here or even LJ back in the day.

You never know what asinine comment is going to get you doxxed and booted from your local scene nowadays. The itas and sissies have completely won by making themselves immune to criticism in a public forum.

I was diagnosed with clinical depression at 13 been on medications ever since I’m 23 now and that’s 10 years of guessing at what will help. Anyways I love Lolita and Japanese fashion because it’s a distraction from being sad and dressing happily makes me happy. Being In a community where sexiness, weight, or race are not really a factor irl. Because the point is you’ve gotten up you’ve taken care of yourself you’ve put thought into your clothes and you’ve done something you love. It motivates me to take care of myself because it gives me something to look forward to. Maybe looking perfect and being skinny and having seamless cords is what matters to some Lolita’s...but happiness is my motivation.

>>9992694
Same here, though I refused to take meds and have been dealing with it on my own for so long. But happiness and feeling cute and pretty, that is my motivation as well.

>>9991643
>rules
Rules that y'all catty twats have created for yourselves that don't actually mean anything except as an "in" marker. Heaven forbid people dress up for the sake of enjoying dressing up and try to find other people who feel the same way. Frankly, I wish all the drama had stayed on livejournal, where it belongs.

>>9992191
ever human being is normal.

>>9992707
well, no shit it’s an ‘in’ marker. the rules of the fashion are what make it specifically lolita as opposed to just some bitch in a frilly dress

>>9992707

.......The rules were written to help newbies get into lolita fashion, actually. They kept asking the same questions, being confused by the parts that make up a lolita outfit, and generally ending up being itas because they had no clue what works or what goes where.

Even the "anatomy of a lolita outfit" image is just basically illustrating both what you need for an outfit, and what items go where.

Sage for replying to bait, this reply is for those who don't know -- that's what lolita "rules" are. It's very hard to be an ita if you dress by the rules, dress to your size and don't OTT it up too much.

Im really happy to see people find a healthy comfort in lolita, but some people really need to get actual help. I’m so tired of having conversations interrupted with “my anxiety uwu pity me” out of nowhere, and this gives a bad name to actual silent sufferers of MIs. So many people in the community will just use it as a pity platform and its exhausting to deal with, but of course you’re the bad guy if you say anything

>>9992824
yep, agreed. lolita is not a place to spew your mental illnesses, OR use them as some sort of pity party or an excuse for bad behavior.

reminder that this is your male equivalent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCSP1THD9cA

>>9992797
>and what items go where
God that reminded me of that newb who asked if you put tights on before or after putting on your petti

Never underestimate how dumb these people can be

>>9992858

I can't decide if that's more retarded than the ita who thought detachable sleeves that came with her dress were legwarmers.

>>9992991
Leg pantaloons is definitely a classic but the idea of someone trying to pull tights up over their fuckin petticoat had me rolling

>>9992824
>>9992833
I would never use my anxiety to get attention. I only tell others who have also come out saying they have social anxiety as support.

Also, even though I said earlier that I like wearing j-fashion because I can tell myself people are staring at the outfit and not me, I wish everyone could dress up. I find it so boring that people just walk outside with jeans and a t-shirt every day. I know it's not for everyone, but it would be nice if people just dressed up some of the time.

>>9993309
Honestly, i feel like the people who do suddenly spew about their anxiety dont think theyre doing it for attention either because theyre so oblivious. But of course with this generation of uber support and tumblr mentality, anytime someone mentions ‘muh anxiety’ people swarm to support. So these people think that ctually have support and find it socially acceptable to just word-vomit their personal problems when really no one wants to be seen as a dick for not addressing it. It just feeds into itself.

>>9992855
He even has that horrible fangirl red hair.
>I'm well above average
Sure thing, fatty. How about some braces though?

>>9992351
That's what you think you look like. Pic related is what you really look like.

>>9993402
>doing it for attention
Where I live, literally everyone says they have anxiety. It doesn't really get you attention anymore so much as it just makes you part of the norm.

>>9992133
That awkward moment when you know somebody who did all of that.

>>9993427
thanks for the cringe fuel : I
now I won't be able to sleep

I'm in a Lolita community, quite small, but I am pretty certain 80% of our comm has mental issues.
Borderline, schizophrenia, severe anxiety's, depression, just mentally retarded in general. We even have 3 cases of mentally challenged Lolita's. Such a joy.