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For J-Fashions that don't have their own threads.

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>> No.9984003

>>9983996
OP photo reminded is... Is Nile Perch worth the price? Or should I just snap it up secondhand? Been eyeing their stuff forever and I only have 1 can badge. I'm worried about the sizing too, I'm not a fatty-chan but I'm bordering on too tall for jfash at 5'9"

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>> No.9984017

>>9984003
I own a few pieces of Nile Perch, and I gotta say it isn't really worth the price. While its super cute, just pick it up secondhand honestly.

>> No.9984035

>>9984003
If you love a brand, it's always good to support them by buying some stuff 1st hand

>> No.9984058

>>9984003
Imo it's worth it. Ive bought a lot of stuff from them, mostly first hand, but also second hand. It's really good to support them since their style is really unique, but for your first time buying them, I would recommend second hand. You don't know if you will like it, and the resale value is really bad.
I find their dresses are kind of meh, though. I've never bought shoes, but the cardigans, blouses, cutsews, tshirts are exceptional quality. I think the socks are the only thing that isn't worth it. The tights are their best quality items, too.

>> No.9984063

>>9984058
Seconding this 100%. I love every piece I've purchased from them and I'm stunned the resale value is so low, not gonna complain though because I don't mind buying secondhand if the condition is good and I generally keep my stuff until it's destroyed.

>> No.9984423

Why do you keep making these threads when none of them are in autosage?
Just because a thread isn't popular doesn't mean you need to make a new one.

>> No.9984850

>>9984423
Fuck. I thought they'd been deleted. Sorry about that.

>> No.9985021

>>9984003
bought a sweater for around 180 USD
went on mercari, found the same sweater i had bought secondhand for 5000 yen
never again

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Didn't Nile Perch use to remake clothes like Spank! does? And sell vintage toys? It was ages ago but I loved looking through their old website when I was new to Jfashion.

>> No.9988721

goodwill have twinkle mermaid up on ebay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Angelic-Pretty-Womens-Light-Blue-Mermaid-Print-Cospaly-Lolita-Dress-SZ-S/401593465889?hash=item5d80d5fc21:g:nPMAAOSwfxFbjYxm

>> No.9988723

>>9988721
fuck
sorry i thought this was lolita general

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bump

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gonna necro this thread because I want more spank kei and fairy kei inspo

>> No.9999000

Samefag, nice job @ self accidentally posting with my profile pic at the bottom. Rip

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Let's try that again:

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>>9998999
OP here, thanks for bringing this thread back, anon.

It's hard to find good inspo on Tumblr, especially when a lot of the times what they're tagging as "fairy kei" is actually menhera or otherwise just not fairy kei.

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Now onto the good stuff.

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>> No.9999045

>>9999026
I hate when people tag shit like this, like how is this remotely fairy kei? Nitpicky but I notice too that a lot of Western FK is definitely moreso decora

>> No.9999136

>>9999027
You complain about people tagging things that obviously aren’t fairy kei but this isn’t fairy kei either...or really even good.

>> No.9999748

Out of curiosity, since I saw an interesting conversation earlier, what makes a coordinate “jfash” to you? Does it need to involve a Japanese brand, or does it just have to capture the feeling of whatever style you’re going for?

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>>9999748
Definitely feeling to me, but a brand helps define it. Pic related is Uniqlo, but they are emulating the "Paris girl" style with this coordinate. Just because something is a Japanese brand doesn't make an outfit Jfashion.
Lines are definitely blurred now that China has become such a hub for high end designers. Couture is flocking over there, and as a result of the fashion trickle, we're starting to see more stuff like >>9999027 in normie fashion stores. Do most people coordinate these items together with the Japanese influence? No. But are the resources for this style now wide-spread? Yes, and that makes outfits like >>9999027 now normie on cgl even though a few years ago it would still easily pass as jfash (at least tumblr jfash)

>> No.9999795

>>9984003
it’s not really worth ordering online but if you can visit the physical store in laforet it’s really great. Visited a couple days ago, the shopgirl was very sweet and they have a bunch of recycled ooak pieces and handmade accessories that you can’t order online, and without the shipping costs the price is quite reasonable.

>> No.9999802

>>9999026
Because they are tagging for the views, not accuracy which is why tags have no point anymore besides for sorting your own blog.

>> No.9999811

>>9999759
This is a really good explanation of it, thank you, Anon!

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>>9999026
>”eat ass suck a dick and sell drugs”
>looks like that
I threw up a little in my mouth

>> No.9999871

>>9988528
yes to both

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>> No.10000527

>>10000413
Ok, this is super super cute

>> No.10000546

>>9999028
God I love this. And that sweater is perf

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How do you all feel about the fancy brand Creamy Ice? I think it's really nice and cute, personally.

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More Creamy Ice examples. I'm really partial to the way the artist, aisutan, works with colors when she makes her bags. I love Spank! a lot, but sometimes I don't understand some of the harsher color choices when they mix them with pastels

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Here's a Creamy Ice backpack I would kill for... if only

>> No.10003096

>>10003087
can you link their site?

>> No.10003099

>>10003096
nvm found it. Thank you for introducing me to this!

>> No.10003106

>>10003089
link pls

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>>10003099
>>10003106
https://creamyyyice.base.shop Here is Aisutan's website. It's pretty sparce at the moment, but she is working on new items to be released in October and this coming winter, if I recall. Aisutan also distributes her goods through Spank!, so if you use a SS like Tenshi, she can order for you over the phone. I think Spank! may have one of the ballet bags in stock still, but the best way to find out is to just have Tenshi call Spank! and ask what Creamy Ice goods are in stock.

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Released are announced through her twitter @aiaisutan, and her Instagram, @creamy_ice_aisu

>> No.10003121

>>10003116
Ugh, bless you anon these are adorable. Do you have a size reference for the bags?

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>>10003121
I actually own one of the ballet bags myself. I put together a coord with it last night; here is the bag in reference to the rest of my outfit. It's pretty roomy and easily fits my wallet, phone, keys, and what have you. Hope this helps!

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>>10003121
Sorry for selfposting lol, but here is another example of the size of the bags. This is a coord I put together using one of her heart bags. The heart bag is huge and fits pretty much anything lol

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Creamy Ice anon again, the artist announced a new release of accessories on Twitter! 1/5

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2/5

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3/5

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4/5, I'm really considering getting my hands on one of these once they drop

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5/5

>> No.10004177

>>10004068
>>10004070
>>10004072
>>10004073
>>10004074

I'm in love

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May I request some shoes? Tea parties and the like are alright, but I'd also to see sneakers or "regular" shoes like pic related.

>>10003087
Usually I have this weird beef with fairy kei for looking too cheap and low quality, but this brand seems like it's actually really nice. I love this kind of embroidery look, and everything looks thick and durable.

>> No.10004710

>>10004068
Are they going on the website?

>> No.10004735

>>10004710
I haven't seen Aisutan say anything about where these will all go, but typically she splits up how she distributes them. Half of the products are posted to her site, and the other goods are delivered to Spank! to be sold there-- she hasn't done either yet, but I think these are slated to release near Halloween

>> No.10004765

>>10003132
these pics are so cute, whats your insta?

>> No.10004772

>>10004765
aw, thank you, anon! I feel kind of bad self-promoing in the general jfashion thread, but to answer your question, my insta is @confettiribbon. I post coords and cute photos of stuff I own every so often there, nothing too serious ^^

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Forgot to post up-close images of these pouches included in the upcoming Creamy Ice release.

>> No.10004786

>>10004707
I agree with the quality level gripes. Like I said in an earlier post, I love brands like Spank!, but sometimes I agree that items can look a little cheap. I really can attest to Creamy Ice items being durable and well-made, though.

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Creamy ice posted the new items! Spank! Did as well on ig

>> No.10005771

>>10005721
Did a gull snag the strawberry bag?

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>>10004707
I’ve always loved how converse look with fairy kei. I had a pair of the limited edition pastel pink ones that I added rainbow laces from daiso to, but I’m currently rocking these. They’re completely pink and satin. They’re my go to pair rn.

>> No.10005983

>>10005966
Ooh, how can I cop these?

>> No.10005991

>>10005983
https://www.footlocker.com/product/model/converse-all-star-big-eyelet-hi--womens/289530.html

>> No.10005992

>>10005991
Thank you!!

>> No.10006009

>>10005991
tempting!

>> No.10008376

Requesting some fairy kei/menhera type looks with pants
I love how skirts look but I always feel so insecure and uncomfortable wearing skirts compared to pants, but it's kinda hard to make pants look cute

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>>10008376
forgot to add the image I was gonna post

>> No.10008460

Any good recs for where I could buy leggings that would suit a menhera style outfit? It's getting pretty chilly here where I am this time of year and its too cold to wear skirts and shorts, even with thigh highs.

>> No.10008466

>>10008460
Puvithel has some menhera-specific footed leggings/tights; Other than that I'd say try general yumekawaii tights/leggings, or even just plain colors (Target has some).

>> No.10008492

>>10008466
I'll check Puvithel out then, thanks anon.

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>>9999028
Anyone have some links to sweaters like these? J-fash brands or taobao shops are fine.

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>>10008376
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>> No.10009053

>>10008774
Thanks anon!

>> No.10009147

Remember Larme

>> No.10009238

>>10009147
Remember when it was just a magazine then all these westernfags tried to make it a thing

>> No.10009657

>>10009147
>>10009238
Is it officially dead and over now?
I never wore it im more into fairykei but I didn’t mind it as a “style”.

>> No.10009658

>>10009657
no people still wear it

>> No.10009843

>>10009657
The magazine is still popular and girls in Japan are still wearing clothes that are following the trends in the magazine but the trends are just constantly changing. Larme isn’t limited to just layering black and pink lingerie pieces. It’s still prevalent but maybe not in the way you’d expect.

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>>10009238
When Larme first started it felt pretty unique, but the style has bled over into other fashion magazines and even abroad so it doesn’t seem as special anymore.

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>>10009847
>>10009849
>>10009854
>>10009858
>>10010091
Yeah I can see your point, all of those looks look like general street fashion, nothing is really outlined as being “larme”.

>> No.10011608

>>10011578
I guess that depends how you define it. To me, it’s just whatever is in the magazine which is constantly changing and what this stuff is. It’s not the Larme that became popular in the west in 2016, but it’s still larme bc it’s intrinsically tied to the magazine.

>> No.10014145

>>10010091
Yeah I've stopped buying the magazine. It pretty much looks like any other Japanese fashion magazine now.

>> No.10014153

>>10009843
>Larme isn’t limited to just layering black and pink lingerie pieces.
And that was just casual Cult Party to begin with.

>> No.10014210

>>10014145
Like which ones?

>> No.10015578

>>10014153
Strong disagree. The lingerie/fetish dressing in Larme circa 15/16 really didn’t seem casual or related to cult party at all. It was body conscious and “sexy,” not loose and angelic, and pink x black isn’t really a cult party color combo anyways>>10014210

>> No.10015598

>>10015578
Considering that Amo was considered a big Cult Party follower and whatever the west considers Larme is just a knockoff of her style, it seems correct tho.

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>>10015598
Pic very related, was considered iconic for Cult Party.

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It's sad how many active jfashion communities their were even 5 years ago, and now only a few are left (lolita, fairy-kei/yumekawaii, and a couple gyaru substyles). There hasn't been anything new to replace them either. Even western alt fashions have gotten boring and repetitive.

Im stuck trying to capture my old excitement about jfashion by looking at dead blogs and old youtube vids

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Why is nile perch called nile perch

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>>10023678
According to the owner because they originally were a fish themed brand.

>> No.10023729

>>10023673
There’s always the fairy kei discord!

>> No.10023735

>>10023705
>fish themed clothing brand
>takes the name of an ugly-ass fish responsible for the extinction of lots of prettier species of fish
kek

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>>10023735
It's not as bad as how WC was based on toilets.

>> No.10023984

>>10015605
This is not cult party at all. Amo wasn’t involved with cult party kei. She was a magazine model while cult party kei was a street style based out of the store “The Virgin Mary.”

>> No.10024046

What do you think is the easiest j-fashion to get into? What is the hardest?

>> No.10024049

>>10024046
I think mori kei would be the easiest

>> No.10024464

>>10024046
lolita is the hardest. agreed mori is probably easiest

>> No.10024639

>>10024046
>>10024049
>>10024464
why is lolita hard?

>> No.10024643

>>10024639
Because of how many newbies end ita despite all the resources.

>> No.10024652

>>10024046
Lolita is the easiest imo. Fairy kei is the hardest. Lolita has a billion resources and everything is laid out for you. There's a huge western sales community and western stores specifically for lolita. It's also pretty easy to make a good coord as long as you follow the basic rules. Fairy kei is harder because there's not a huge western market, so most western "fairy kei" wearers end up using offbrand crap and looking like garbage.

>> No.10025003

>>10024046
I think yumekawaii is this easiest since it's really broad and describes several fashions; just use some pastels and give a dreamy feel

I think decora is the hardest, I can't make that many clips on my head look cute no matter what I do

>> No.10025143

>>10024046
Id say himekaji and fashions along the line of that. It’s easy to wear and pair, there many online stores based in US (If thats where you live) selling only that type of clothing too so it’s really easy to get and afford unlike Lolita.

>> No.10025228

>>10024643
>>10024046
I disagree, lolita is really easy. The guidelines are all laid out, the reason people are bad is simply because they are lazy, they wouldn't look good in any fashion. As well as that, as the other anon said, it's easy to get your hands on good pieces because the community is so big and the western sales market is huge.
Other fashions are harder in my opinion. I wear fairy kei, otome, and lolita. Otome is easy to coordinate if you have a basic understanding. However I see people fuck up otome and look bad all the time. There's no resources for it. In the west, people think everything that is too casual to be lolita is otome.
As for fairy kei, it's hard to find pieces in the western market and the community is small. There's more fairy kei itas in the west than there are good ones. "western" fairy kei is a completely different style in my opinion and it's trash.
i'm just repeating what this anon said >>10024652
but I think no matter what i say it would be the same. I agree so much.

>> No.10025234

>>10024046
I feel like Cult Party Kei is pretty tricky considering it's pretty dead and no one seems to know what the fuck it's supposed to look like. I used to wear it a lot but my coords were pretty hit or miss, both as to whether they looked good or not and if they actually fit the aesthetic I was going for. Lolita is dead easy. There are a million dedicated brands, all you have to do is buy from the right places and have some sense of color coordination.

>> No.10027168

When do brands start bringing out their lucky packs? I always seem to miss them or never have the money. But I’m determined to get some this year

>> No.10027174

>>10024046
I'd argue menhera is the easiest because it's so simple. Worse come to worse, you can just buy a matching set to pair with an accessory or two. However, it's one of those which people overthink, and then they end up in left field. I think it might happen because they see examples where people are mixing and matching different styles with it. I'll also include yumekawaii in the 'easiest category' because the outfits can be quite simple & accessible. I think nanchette would count in easy-tier as well.

I'd put lolita in mid-tier. If you don't care about creativity, you can just buy a matching set alongside petticoat and wig. I still won't put it in 'easiest' just because it's a bit costly compared to other styles. Classic and gothic would especially go in mid-tier alongside some sweet. I'm going to include gyaru in this category because it's a bit more forgiving regarding 'brand', but it's still a lot of personal upkeep with the nails and hair.

The hardest categories would go to stuff like fairy kei, cult party kei, & decora. I include your OTT sweet in this category as well. Stuff in this category has a myriad of factors that elevate it to hard whether that be inaccessibility of brand to expense. On top of that, these are fashions that run a high danger of looking like an absolute clusterfuck. I might could include shironuri & visual kei as well since you've got complicated theatrical makeup paired with odd, expensive outfits.

I don't really know enough about mori or larme to categorize them. All that said, any style can be as hard as you want to make it.

>> No.10027234

>>10024046
Mori is probably one of the more "relaxed" styles, and incredibly subjective. Early on it was about layering skirts, dresses, and shirts together for the basic look, but slowly it evolved to be more simplistic. It's often referred to as a style not having any real "rules", as long as you had the feel or vibe of "fairy tail forest" in either a fantasy-like way or a more realistic way, it was mori if you called it such. It overlaps with other styles frequently because of the themes of "natural", "forest", and "fairy tale". In terms of price and accessability, you can literally do what you want. Thrifting, buying online, making it yourself, that's up to you. Potentially one of the cheapest styles.

Lolita has rules for people who seek more stability and guidelines, but it's slightly harder in terms of how the wrong petticoat or pair of shoes can trash a whole coord in some cases. If you pay close attention and keep it simple to start, waiting to go OOT as get a better grasp of it, things should go smoothly. It's also susceptible to being "trashy" or "weeby" if you fall into the wrong area of lolita (shiny fabrics, the wrong accessories, etc). Also it's one of the most expensive jfashions and if you're a seasoned seamstress, making your own dresses is an option. Lolita stores do exist overseas but be prepared for a shitton of online shopping, especially these days.

I feel like the hardest could be gyaru IMO. The makeup alone takes so much effort and if you're doing hardcore looks with lots of flashy clothes and accessories, you have to work it hard. It's definitely one if the most dedicated styles, but there are more simple gyaru looks that don't call for such extremes. Shironuri is also some hard stuff, but only like 10 people wear it lol.

As for other styles
>easy
nanchatte, yumekawaii

>medium
menhera

>extra spicy
decora

>> No.10027288

>>10027168
Most do around new year's eve, Listen Flavor announced their for the end of the month tho.

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An artist just posted this. 1/3

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2/3

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3/3

>> No.10027948

>>10027389
I've not got much of a comment, but I know Midnight Springs Deco has been putting up with a lot over the past year. I feel bad for the girl she snapped at, but it also makes me worried whether or not Midnight Springs Deco is doing alright, you know?

>> No.10027965

>>10027389
god, people who bitch endlessly about drama/negativity/toxicity/literally anything that isnt sharting rainbows are always the most annoying cunts ever

>> No.10027977 [DELETED] 

>>10027389
desu I think MGD is going nuts. she's been really rude and bitchy so much, and she's too... I don't know. she's way too hard on herself and probably shouldn't be trying to run a business. she has a ton of ideas, but it always seems like a lot of them are flops and it really wears down on her.

>> No.10028140

>>10027389
OK SO I wasn't there but I went and talked to some witnesses and this artist is blowing this out of proportion.

there's some bad blood between this artist and M so it's not fair of the artist to say there's 'no reason' m would behave this way. From what I can tell S also is friends with/supports KG? And I keep seeing all of KGs friends going after m so I also wonder if that has something to do with it.

The whole interaction was less one sided. S approaches M while she was at B's table and attempted to give her a half hug (which to me is a no-no, don't touch someone without permission) M ignored S, S said something along the lines of why do you gotta be like that with some level of snark, and M told S something along the lines of piss off.

Imo M was probably more rude than she needed to be, but S isn't blameless, and M wasn't /that/ rude.

Regardless this post is silly; my neighbor at my last con was rude to me too but I'm not going around trying to ruin her business

>> No.10031017
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Any thoughts on Na+H? Their items look lovely.

>> No.10031157

>>10027389
this is honestly pathetic. Who gives a shit if someone doesn't want to be your friend? Walk away. She sounds like she knew she would be provoking the girl in some way and approached her anyways.
someone telling you to buzz off is no reason to try and ruin their business.

>> No.10031401

>>10027387
>and I'm afraid of bitterbat, one of my art senpai's associating me with drama and negativity

Wew

>> No.10031422

>>10031157
Considering there was some dispute between Symbiote and Midnight before, it's more surprising she pulls the "booh booh i only wanted to be friends" card when she harassed her before.

>> No.10031478

>>10031422
reading what she wrote, she's really trying to up the "innocent" card. Constantly reminding us she was crying and being bullied :^( it's obvious she's not innocent. so pathetic, keep your petty drama offline

>> No.10031915

>>10031017
I really like the materials they use anon. I would recommend, plus they tend to use real leather for shoes.

>> No.10032052

>>10031017
Great quality, and one of the few lolita brands who can actually pull off the steampunk look well

>> No.10032204

>>10031401
All of that throughout the post...so cringy.

>> No.10032226

>>10031017
They're great but they don't seem to hold resale, I'd look second-hand not new unless you've got, IDK, a lot of goth instagram followers you can promote your sales to.

>> No.10032282

>>10024046
Don't agree with the people listing fairy kei as much harder than lolita. There are less good resources within the Western community, sure, but fairy kei noobs mostly make it difficult for themselves because they're unwilling to drop the $$$ for Japanese brands and determined to shoehorn offbrand, which causes would fuck up any jfash except mori, larme and jgoth.

Agree with decora being difficult to not look like shit in, and gyaru being hard for most people because of the make-up and hair. Menhera basics are easy but there are less obvious brands to follow and it'd be hard for someone not used to keeping up with jp artist merch to know about new releases.

>>10025234
It also became pretty hard to get stuff like fancy peignoirs without shelling out a lot of money unless you had realllly good thrift stores locally.

>> No.10032327
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I would kill for a pair of these.

>> No.10032400

Where can i cop cute shoes for my big gajin feet? i'm a 10/10.5

>> No.10032736

>>10032400
Seconding this, I'm an 8.5-9. Life is pain

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>>10031915
>>10032052
Cheers, gulls!

>>10031915
>real leather
All my yes. Thanks for letting me know!

>> No.10036924

>>10032400
>>10032736
https://shop58746168.taobao.com/
Most shoes go up to US 13.

>> No.10036932

>>10032327
I,too,would kill for more pastel/kawaii sneakers in general. C'mon AP,you can realease a pair of those again. Has anyone tried the YRU ones?

>> No.10037330

>>10036932
I’ve got a pair of YRU platforms that I adore. There’s an open box vendor on depop and if you’re wanting to snag some on the cheap just to see how you like them, try there. Mine were in perfect condition other than a small scuff on the left side of one of the soles

>> No.10037390

>>10027385
>>10027387
>>10027389
>bawws about how Midnight Springs Deco doesn't want to be friends with her because artist is badmouthing her and sending people to bully her
>artist claims she has no idea what she's talking about as if she would never do such a thing
>posts long story on social media literally badmouthing Midnight Springs Deco and sending people to bully her

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not a fan of the hair color