/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

What exactly are these made of and how do they make them? Are these molded or just put together from some taobao shop?

>>9943722
I’m tired of these halo crowns for one

>>9943722
I'm tired of aprons, they feel too maid-ish to me and I don't need another layer in this heat. I want long lolitas coats back in the winter, I feel like I've been seeing too many girls with normie coats recently.

>>9943738
Okay I get them looking too "maid" like but what about keeping stains off of your clothing? It's much easier to replace an apron than it is to replace a dress. That's why I like aprons

>>9943726
furnch fries

>>9943738
It’s been a while since I’ve seen a lolita coat out in the wild. I don’t think people wear them anymore

>>9943747
Im a babby lolita but I really want to buy some before this next winter to wear with my coords.

Honestly I would love to see some more dresses like this come out this year from AP for winter wear. I don't see very many winter coords and it's one of my favorite looks ever.

>>9943738
I like aprons as long as they’re functional. They’re a great way to add pockets to an outfit when your main piece doesn’t have any and your bag is awkward to open and close all the time. However I don’t like those organza ones or aprons that can’t be washed easily when they do get dirty. Seeing girls at a meetup freak out because they got a tiny stain on their apron is just surreal.

>>9943738
>>9943747
I have several lolita brand coats that I absolutely love, but like one third of the year it’s way too hot for them.

I agree on the normie coats. It’s very rare that a normie coat accommodates the lolita silhouette so the majority of the time it looks super awkward and overstuffed. That, or they leave them hanging open even in the rain.

>>9943752
I totally dig this style of appliqué dresses too. I would love them to see some released with shirring!
Those kind of coats were adorable during OTT sweet era.

>>9943767
I would buy the shit out of a rerelease of any of their current appliqué dresses ESP if it came with shirring. I'm on the lookout for a few right now and I know the carnival appliqué skirt is on sale on the western market but I feel like I'd rather have a dress over a skirt.. I'm still thinking it over though. They're just so darned cute

>>9943741
With the price of new brand aprons, it's not much easier.

>>9943747
I do! I really love my coat and would like to get more. It even looks great over normie stuff as well as lolita, it's much more versatile and hard wearing than any normie coat I've had.

>>9943758
Good point on the pockets, I hadn't thought of that. I guess I can see their value a bit more now.

But on coats, I truly believe that if you live in a cold place they are good value for money, especially if you buy secondhand. Sure, they're only good for 1/3rd of the year, but during that third, they're really necessary.

>>9943796
>>9943741
I get mine custom made!! I met a seamstress who makes aprons and she worked with me to make a perfect little apron for 50 dollars and it was really nice quality! You don't have to buy brand aprons if you're using them for their intended purpose, I mean, personally I would never let anything near an apron that cost more than 100.

>>9943726
I am curious about this also??

>>9943798
Ooooh, recommendation pls? I'd love to get a few aprons for casualwear

>>9943801
You'll really have to excuse the mess I am, I don't have any pictures of the apron already, and I actually haven't worn it out since I bought it (I got it for a concert but it missed me by a few hours)

The lady is pretty new to lolita in general so she did her best for her first lolita apron and even hand stiched the button holes to make sure they held up over time. her insta handle is @princesspeonypetal

I really should be a good customer and send her an actual worn photo of it so she can start her lucrative lolita apron making business

>>9943806
@princesspeonypetals *** fuck, sage for stupidity

>>9943806

holy shit this looks awful. Anon, I mean this in the best way possible, it's not a good look at all and you deserve better.

>>9943806
yeah that bottom trim is cheap at jo ann’s... you could probably do it better by ironing/ steaming it
also no waist ties. :,(

>>9943738
It’s weird to think that costs are not being worn? People likely just don’t take photos of their coats so you don’t know. I have 2 long winter coats but it’s not something I show off a bunch. Also wrong season to know what everyone does have.

>>9943738

I wear my lolita coats to death both with lolita and normie clothing, but I guess it's one of those "take a pic of once and then not again" because I mean, it's the same coat.

>>9943747

I guess you haven't seen me then? I wear it to death in the hard midwestern winters.

>>9943747
If you live in a cold climate, get a lolita coat! You might just wear it every day in the winter like I did. A cute coat can brighten up dull winter days. This one from bodyline is very warm. Look for coats made at least partially from wool.

When I first got into the fashion, fawn print was a big trend. I would like to see it again. I agree about appliqués and embroidery.

>>9943806
Cringe

>>9943841

wow you look adorable even with the face sticker. I totally agree - a bright red like that really brightens up my day too!

>>9943830
>>9943820
Aaaa yes I am 100% guilty of storing it wrong, it's why I said forgive my grossness. And like I said it's her first lolita apron. I'm not really mad with it since it's only meant to get dirty, and everyone starts somewhere. She had other aprons that were historically inspired that were much better

But also I'm new so what do I know~

>>9943796
>>9943801

A handful of the taobao brands have aprons. Most are like $30~50 before shipping. Make a haul or a group order and split shipping costs.

If you find it difficult to track down individual taobao shops, look through a reseller such as MLD or lolitawardrobe, then note the brand and track down their taobao shop, then look through the shop for the apron.

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.0.0.24c42e8dPX2RTH&id=544029554437&_u=g2rhda06ea9b

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5-c-s.w4002-18417289998.36.60ec2d68tSjW6s&id=559364556587

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c-s.w4002-16885924184.97.656412e7Baw8Bs&id=546331609987

>>9943722
What’s with the current trend of “NO BLOUSE IM A REBEL” “SNEAKERS IM A REBEL” can it please die?

>>9943935
Blouseless coords have always been a seasonal trend. Sneakers... well there's no excuse.

I'm personally tired of seeing religious OTT coords with madonna halos, rosaries, scepters, veils, shawls, etc. They're all starting to look the same.

>>9943973
Where are you seeing a lot of religious coords nowadays? I could understand this post 1-3 years ago but I feel like the trend is dying.

>>9943840
I'm guessing they live in the south or somewhere warm because I see them all the time in my area.

>>9943935
>>9943973
I’m guilty of being in love with angelic pretty’s sneakers. I don’t know if they count though. I would love a pair of these for casual.
Generic “normie” sneakers though, they look gross in any coordinate casual or not.

>>9944043
Is there any place to get something like these, like on taobao? I wouldn't mind if these would make a comeback.

>>9944043
I adore these more than I probably should

>>9943722
I’m tired of this blouse. Seeing it crammed into every goth outfit is starting to get repetitive and boring.

>>9943769
Appliqués and embroidered designs on dresses need to make a comeback. It was details like these that made me fall in love with lolita in the first place

>>9944043
>>9944045
100% agree they would also be very great for fairy kei,decora and such

>>9944061
Id take a basic embroidered or appliqué piece over another vomit print any day

>>9943726
They are cast and soldered by the designer. She usually works in brass I think? But I think the new ones are silver

ugly taobao prints pls go

>>9943806
You paid $50 for this? I should go into the apron business.

>>9943841
I never thought I’d miss the fawn trend but I kind of do. Not the headdresses and makeup, though. Never.

>>9944061
Same. If I had to choose between embroidery and prints I’d go for embroidery every time.

>>9944162
seconded

>>9944056
Same. I think it's hideous. Honestly sick of IDD in general.

>>9944056

i saw a hilarious insta story review of it. The thing looks like it's made of mosquito netting.

i like some of idd's stuff but i don't like how she's being shoved down our throat as the 'only western indie queer lolita brand uwu.' like bitch i'm bi but i'm not buying your mosquito netting shirts.

>>9944292
>only western indie queer lolita brand uwu
What? Details?
>>9944056
ngl, I love how this looks as a gothic lolita, but comfort is pretty important. It looks a bit scratchy so I decided not to. Is it?

>>9944298

being the most special-est semi gothic quasi medieval and met museum inspired queer brand is their schtick. it's literally on their ig page.

i'm all for lgbt representation but i get annoyed if the shtick could be entirely removed and you'd still have the same thing. this is an example of that exactly.

also their shit is very far removed from lolita. they should be their own brand and i'd be ok with 'met gala aesthetic' even. just stop shoving it down all our throats because nothing about their brand is really lolita.

>>9944312
someone's ig profile is not ''shoving it down your throat''. just unfollow them dude.

>>9944312
>just stop shoving it down all our throats
Just stop following her lmao. Literally the only times I ever hear anything about IDD is when gulls are complaining about it. I never see the brand anywhere else.

>>9944292
>2018
>not wrapping yourself in mosquito netting to keep out the cishets

>>9944316

sorry i guess not necessarily shoved down your throat, just unnecessarily tacked on with a 'oh btw' sort of air to get the underrep points.

you could take it away and they'd still be medieval kei. nothing would change.

I'm sick of lolitas posting pictures of themselves making meme poses or stupid faces to seem more "real" It's not funny and it's cringey as fuck in and out of the fashion

>>9943722
i want bonnets to be more popular

>>9944045
angelic imprint has replicas. thats all i know

>>9944045

That's the problem, normie sneakers don't usually go for pastels, for some weird reason they go for bright colours and neon. They stick out like a sore thumb in most coords.

>>9943806
Oh no.... Anon, this isn't good at all. Check out the links to those taobao aprons someone else posted upthread and buy those. Sorry, but your friend does not know what she is doing.

>>9943978
Instagram

>>9944056
It didn't even look good on Connie, and everything looks good on Connie

>>9944318
OK, I like IDD but if you haven't been seeing this blouse all over Instagram then I guess you don't spend much time there.

I miss the peignoir trend so much. I think what ruined it is that it got too popular and everyone wanted a part of it, they didn't care about figuring out what kind of peignoir would look good with lolita and what wouldn't, so we got a lot of cringe.

Also CPK died, and now it's kind of cringy to wear a peignoir coord...

I miss cross-body purses. I know they're inconveniently small but I've worn them basically my whole life and I like a hands-free bag. I don't see as many made these days.

>>9944547
lmao all I own is crossbody purses, love them

>>9944547
aren’t most of APs bags cross though? they’re easiest to buy

>>9944547
Maybe it depends on the style you wear? I own 12 lolita brand bags and only two are either not crossbody bags or convertable into one. In coord shots I'll hold then by the handle but wear it out crossbody for ease of use. Of said bags three are AP, three IW, three AatP, and only the AP ones I'd consider small - the others hold quite a bit.

To contribute, in terms of trends... I feel like ridiculous OTTness is dying, or maybe it's shifting a bit from classic to gothic almost. OTT gothic outfits are getting big praise while those crazy classic outfits that might have been a hit 4-5 years ago are getting less enthusiasm. Or maybe that's just cgl. Kind of like how on cgl people praise simple outfits and more daily coords but it doesn't feel really well liked in the rest of the lolita community.

A trend I wish was gone is the close up makeup shot on CoF. Just do a shot or two of your outfit, maybe a close up of your accessories or the print if you're wanting to spice it up. 90% of the time it just makes people look awful and vain and in those 10% of the times where they have a pretty shot and nice makeup they already looked perfec tand fine in their outfit shots. It just either drags them down or takes up pointless space.

>>9944561
I'm talking about the little ones, not the giant honking ones that knock over everything if you try to wear them cross-body. Maybe I'm just clumsy, IDK.

>>9944570
look for the lucky pack bags, those are small and cute. i have small heart one it’s the perfect size

>>9944568
I am so glad there are less giant scepters now. On the down side I hate that costume wings are now okay, and are pretty frequent. Make lolita not a costume again. It is totally possible to still wear an OTT coord but have it be fashion rather than roleplaying a princess

>>9944574
>I hate that costume wings are now okay, and are pretty frequent

Same anon. Not just costume wigs though, I hate wigs in general. They just inherently feel costume-y to me. I'm probably in the vast minority here but I even prefer slightly unkempt/unstyled hair that you often see in old-school images to wigs.
(Of course there are always cases where someone 'needs' a wig and a lot of people just generally enjoy them, but I wish they would at least go for more natural ones then.)

>>9944572
Thanks anon.

>>9944159
Who is the creator? Image search doesn't seem to be finding it for me.

>>9944531
>caring about trends in altfashion

i like seeing trends come and go too anon but shit is timeless in alternative fashion

I want more dresses that hit at the proper waist, especially outside of just classic. High waist is fine sometimes, but I hate that *every. new. release* from major brands, and ALL taobao brands, is high waist/empire waist.

Also, bring back skirts! Seems like so many new releases, especially from AP, don't have a skirt available. Skirts are cheaper, more versatile, easier to size since there's only one dimension for sizing, there used to always be skirt options!

>>9945213
I don't hate wigs, but it's sad that everyone's hair is expected to be extremely voluminous now for ''balance'' or whatever. Some people act like it's not allowed to wear a bonnet unless your hair is big with bangs.

>>9945227
Have you looked at Sheglit?

>>9945221
Voodoodolly iirc

>>9943738
I never see wear an apron these days. I think a while ago I saw someone post that she got called out by her comm for wearing an apron with her coords because they didn't want normies to mistake them for maids or something?

>>9945213
I think you misread as wigs not wings, but also I agree. Wigs are ridiculous, and people getting mad at others for not "coording" their hair with their outfits are fucking stupid. As if everyone wants to suffocate and itch all day while already in an equally hot outfit. I want the wig trend to die in coords that aren't OTT

>>9945227
Oh this is one of my dream dresses! I really wish there would be more dresses released in this cut. It looks so comfy and it's a style that is hard to look bad in. My best fitting dress is my btssb tartan check scallop jsk and I'd love more like it but in sweet prints

Circle glasses . Hate em

>>9945227
agree 100x on natural waist dresses.

I also love skirts, but the fact is nobody really buys them ):

>>9945227
I think they make sack dresses because it's easier than making several sizes or adding full-shirring without it getting ugly. A lot of lolitas own nice belts, corsets and bustiers anyway.

>>9944292
>only western indie queer lolita brand uwu

lol who says that? Also more than half the indie western brand designers are LGBT etc

>>9943806
...... C?

>>9943806
Holy crap anon, that dress does not fit you. :/ Your breasts look so uncomfy and smushed and that's not where they should be in the dress. Please love yourself and buy something that fits until you lose weight for the small japanese sizes.

>>9944056
this looks so gross. I saw a comely girl do a vid of it on youtube fawning over it and it looks like the nastiest shit indie "lolita" crap ever.

>>9945268
Ah it's not a weight issue, I normally wear corsets under my dresses because my boobs are too big and this was literally a "throw on fast" type of thing. I know I look awful I have sinned

>>9943806
>princesspeonypetal
does not exist

>>9944312
That they feel the need to point out that it's queer run uwu has convinced me to never buy anything from them. She can take her identity politics and shove em up her ass with a scepter.

>>9945288
Corsets...do not made your breasts smaller, if anything it pushes them up to make them bigger. You are a mess.

>>9945238
Thank you gracious anon

>>9945335
Not necessarily anon, not all corsets are the same shape
Some styles, like an Elizabethan style corset, work more like binders.

>>9945530
Thank you, I didn't really know what to say because I seem to not know a lot :/ but mine is like a binder that keeps everything even. Unfortunately i have large boobs and broad shoulders, but the corset I use actually helps my dresses fit almost perfect (it actually makes the dress very slightly baggy so I'm able to move without the seams feeling like they're about to burst)

I'm sorry for the poor quality of my example, I should have known better and I will look into better aprons!

>>9945227
Seconded

>>9944061
>>9944079
On a related note, I would like to see again those gorgeous velvet dresses with golden border prints/embroidery being released around 2010. It has such a comfy christmas fairy tale feel!
I think this could have success again, due to velvet being trendy in normie fashion. Also puppet circus is still a holy grail print. Please AP, we're tired of print vomit

>>9945798
>print vomit

did you see the latest AP release? not only is it print vomit but you can't even tell what the print is, it's so washed out, and in every single color

don't even get me started on this awful pattern cutting, it looks like babby's first sewing project

I wish brands especially AP would release another design like the Bookmark JSK. It was so unique and I wish they did takes on concepts like that instead of the millionth pastel border print with high waist cuts.

>>9945798
I love velvet, I love embroidery, I love appliqués, and the floral goeblin-granny prints. I'm a sweet lolita but modern sweet is too much for me, either too OTT or too much on prints.

I like prints but the ones coming out from AP right now suck, and it's the same dress with the same colorways, just different art. Post 2016- angelic pretty is straight garbage, I hope they pull through soon

>>9945812
I would buy this if they released a skirt

>>9945798
They already said no to puppet circus, and it’s unlikely the other similar dresses will be rereleased

>>9945798
They really ought to do a Puppet Circus remix already. It's kind of absurd they won't budge on it.

>>9943806
That OP comes with an apron anon, what happened to yours??? This dress is cheap to find secondhand, you could have just bought a new set instead of paying USD50 for that abomination.
It's easy to tell the difference between what she made and the original apron.
I feel so sad for you anon.

>>9945812
Well, desu I'm weak for pastel prints on black, also they have a lower resale value, so I'll prob buy the black cutsew version secondhand for comfy casual. But it's not worth anything more than 100 yuros honestly.
I do't get why they make so much washed out prints like that. Is that what most lolitas, asian and western, want? For example I understand why the make OTT lacemonsters: it's for the chinese nouveau riche lolitas. But that pastel vomit, again and again? I know that teenagers tend to love this, but most teens are broke and will only buy from taobao or second-hand brand.

WHO buys those dresses at retail?


>>9945828
>>9945842
Why do they refuse a re-release?

>>9945887
They basically said that they don’t think these types of dresses are worth it, with how delicate velvet and screen printing was. It was to someone asking at DMC about puppet circus specifically but you can take it to imply any others like it are a no too.

I want dresses to be shorter again. I prefer 80-92 cm long.

>>9943806
I think the apron is not bad at all and just needs to be ironed

>>9945932
Aren't dresses already about that short? I guess that depends on which brand you're talking about; I know Meta's regular releases can get pretty long.

>>9945903
And they think any of these pastel vomit prints are going to sell out..?

>>9945947
I mostly wear classic and a lot of releases I would have bought are more than 100 cm

>>9946200
You wear the wrong style, classic always geared to the longer looks. Try other brands for that sweet classic look

>>9946200
Try IW, most of their "short" cuts are about 90-95cm long.

>>9946206
>>9946220
I don't like sweet and IW is so boring. I just settle for coording gothic brands in a non-gothic way because they have the most flattering cuts but it's sad I don't buy from JetJ and VM anymore.

>>9944162
I agree

And the poorly groomed cheap loud fatties that wear them too.

>>9944574
>now
anon wigs have been around for a lonnnnng time

>>9945798
This was my first dream dress. i snagged it in pink way later on, but I always wanted the wine colorway. Later I saw it for sale, altered and damaged- just completely ruined. I was pretty sad about it, but I can't really explain why.

>>9946266
Read it again, anon said wings, not wigs.

>>9946271
oh Apologies. i'm a dumb ass. I hate wings too. I liked the trend of the winged bags, though. I wish that would come back instead, way less costumey and way cuter.

I miss people wearing full sets on a regular basis. There is too much criticism of the coords not being creative that it makes more itas trying to be unique. Instead we should just incourage first coords to be a full set. We will also get much less dumbass questions like will this sweet collared blouse go with this gothic jsk. Just look at what the model is wearing and copy it with some different hair, shoes and accessories. Congratulations, you are a lolita and your first coord is not a mess. You can get creative later when you have a bigger wardrobe to pull from.

>>9946344
I was just talking about this upthread. Too many newbies think they can get creative without doing the basics first.

I wish AP would use more cotton instead of cheap polyester for their dresses. I miss the luxurious feel of their broadcloth cotton releases.

Are there any current trends nowadays? The only thing I can think of are madonna crowns and peignoirs which are pretty much dead. Thank god.

>>9946356
I think sleepy themed coords are a trend in Asia but the west has been quite boring lately.

Also I think that natural colored, dark pastel and grey wigs are a current trend as opposed to bright colored ones.

>>9946345
That and I am so sick of noobs getting their first dress and asking about what to wear it with, expecting others to coord for them. It's one thing to post in the coord help thread for something you are stuck on because it's different from your wardrobe and another to ask how to coord a simple sweet print dress because it's your first coord.

>>9946344
i've never been a fan of full sets but i don't get this fixation on coords being ~unique~, lolita is already ~unique~ in terms of what you see on the streets, i don't care about being creative i just want to be feel cute and look good

>>9944333
I think the can look good with a coord but I don't want to invite more little bo peep type comments.

>>9946364
Maybe it’s because I’m an oldschoolfag but I like “boring” coords. I’m not the biggest fan of more is more.

I wouldn’t call wearing natural colored wigs a trend but more of a default option? Idk

>>9945227
What is the name of this op, anon?

>>9946558
Church choir flare OP!

>>9946570
Thanks!

>>9945813
Bookmark tanked when it first came out though. It only got popular after the fact, like honey cake

I'm not sure how to describe it but I miss when lolita felt a little more...maybe not "frumpy", but it seems like the clothes used to have a little more "body" to them. I miss when there was a little bit of bagginess to the clothing, I think it looks cuter than the polished waist-hugging/cap sleeve shape that you see more nowadays.

>>9943806
the hand-stitch buttonholes are questionable. the top right photo looks like the trim has an unfinished edge, the waistband creases awkwardly and it definitely needs an iron.
it's not bad for someone's first time making a apron but desu this quality isn't great for selling to your customer base.

>>9943806
>>9947871
Had a look at her insta and the one photo of the hand embroidery is actually really cute. I still don't think the apron is good quality enough to sell but she has potential and i hope her skills can grow

>>9946388
>>9946344

I one hundred percent agree, but I think the only people pushing more more uneeq over the top coordinates are itas, newfags, and lolita at hearts. I appreciate a well done unique coordinate, but most of the people who attempt that are new to the fashion and don't really understand it. While pushing the boundaries is a good thing at times, if you're new, it's not going to work out too well. Most people who have worn the style for more than a few months understand that you can't always push the boundaries, and it's often easy to appreciate a simple, done a thousand times outfit.

I don't get why people who want to be super edgy and uneeq see lolita as the fashion for them regardless. There's such strict rules. But I think most of the people who do this think all they need to do to qualify as lolita is wear one brand piece.

>>9947853
I could never put it into words, but this is what I've been missing too! I think the frumpy oldschool look was what made it look so charming when I saw the fashion for the first time.

>>9947898
too bad azn frump will always look cuter than western frump

>>9946407
do you dress down and wear less colour too?

>>9947904
I don't think so, I've seen some western girls pull this look off too. But it definitely doesn't suit everyone, I'll agree with that.

>>9947904
I think Asian frump was kind of a deliberate frump, if that makes sense? It was that planned casual look, where even though it was still worn as a street fashion, thought went into your outfits, because you had to look good for the people you would be hanging out with. Westerners who try to imitate that look always seem to miss that fine line between looking casual but still polished, but not overplanned. Even that girl that copies directly from oldschool snaps doesn't quite get that level of frump.

>>9947904
Not sure what your point is. Cry more, I guess?

>>9945246
Agreed so much. Hate the whole teehee just a cute girlie nerd schtick in general

>>9947927
I think a big part of pulling it off is having the right body type and personal styling to match the look. With oldschool becoming a lot more popular these days, I see many girls who coord well (or at least get the actual clothes mostly right like on the right of pic related) but it's not quite the same look due to to their faces, bodies, or styling. It's just like how angular faces are more suited to gothic, and more youthful faces look great with sweet.

>>9947931
If you mean Ophelia, I actually think some of her coords do get the frumpy aspect right, like on the left in pic related (I love oldschool Michelin Man sleeves, which definitely give off a feeling of frumpiness). Some of it might just be an issue of sizing or fit, too. You do need some level of looseness to get fabric to hang off you in a frumpy way.

>>9947904
Asian fetish? In my community?

>>9947947
when was i crying?

>>9947931
I agree, its a stylistic choice. most frumpy lolitas in the west are just poor with styling

>>9945213
>tfw I don't own and wigs and always style my natural hair and seagulls drag me for it

>>9947957
>michelin man sleeves
nice one anon, i'll use it in the future

>>9948010
Don’t forget that the c in cgl stands for cosplay.

>>9947878
>>9947871
The style of apron I asked for could have had something to do with it, and a short deadline. I have seen her other stuff and it looks like she does the whole "suzi-homemaker" type stuff (pic related), I'd like to keep working with her so she can improve herself! I chose to work with her bc I like supporting people in their craft, but you guys are right, there is definitely a lot of polishing that could be done to it. I might go in and take out the pockets and finish sealing the seams, and figure out a way for it to fit more flush against the dress. Would you have any other suggestions to fixing it up?

>>9948059
newfag

>>9947931
I think it's mainly that the clothes are made in one size and their boobs are tiny

>>9948087
Keep in mind that that one size is designed to account for smaller tits compared to western girls, which points to it being a deliberate look on the part of the brands making them.

>>9948127
But when I look at old GLB photoshoots they don't look half as frumpy as street snaps

>>9948248
I haven't noticed a difference in frump levels, but that might just be me.

>>9948076

>That overhang on the bib outside the neck ties
>left corner and right corner aren’t symmetrical
>bib being too narrow

idk anon, she’s not at regretsy level, but I just don’t think she’s all that great.

As to your original apron, I think your best bet might be to redo the apron waistband entirely. You can look up how to do a curved waistband, that will help it sit better against your tummy. Put some stiffer interfacing inside it and press, press, press every step of the way — her original waistband looks weird because it looks like she just folded over a regular rectangle and sewed it down, twisting the fabric in the process. A bit of pressing would’ve helped keep the fabric from twisting around, and help the top of the waistband stay sharp even without interfacing.

Honestly it also looks like the apron isn’t gathered enough, so while you’re replacing the waistband you might try and measure it, make sure it’s *at least* 3 x the length of the waistband you’re gathering it too. currently it looks like it just really wants to be narrower and is trying to squish down your dress, when it can’t do that then it pushes upwards and skews up your waistband instead.

I think the heart patch pockets aren’t all that bad actually. If you really liked her embroidery, I think a better use of your money is to send one of these pockets back to her and commission a custom embroidery (maybe a cupcake with your initial on it). Then attach it on the apron. Certainly much better than commissioning something you know is out of her depth and then force-trying to “work” with her.

>>9948422
I'd put money on this being a selfpost. I bet this is yet another case of some crafty store trying to shill their handmade crap on here.

>>9948422
Thank you so much I think that would be a lovely idea. This is a great excuse to bust out my sewing machine I've never used. I wanted there to be button holes mostly so I can keep my original waist ties and not have to worry about there being two bows in the back. Maybe that was a far fetched idea but it made sense to me. Maybe you're right though, I just have a soft spot for people making their own stuff because I can't do it myself. I'm going to invest in a cheaper Taobao one but I will fix up the apron so I can keep it around for dailywear type stuff. Thank you so much for the advice it means a lot

>>9948064
Oof you got me, I meant in lolita fashion.

This isn’t really a trend but can ero lolita stop being a fucking thing already? What is the point of it? Sexualizing a fashion that the rest of the community tries to prevent the sexualization of from sissies, DDLG roleplayers, creepy con managers, and anyone who hears the name lolita and assumes it’s related to the book? Ero lolita goes against the basic fundamental rules of lolita, like skirts not being too short and necklines not too low, so it shouldn’t even really be classified as lolita. Just call it sexy otome kei/himekaji and move on.

>>9948456
Of course, but there’s nothing stopping cosplayers from posting in lolita threads. I tend to take seagull nitpicking with a grain of salt because there’s no way to tell if the poster even wears lolita. At least when you get shitty advice on COF you can check out if the person’s an ita or not.

>>9948539
Afaik it originated from the Japanese club scenes way back when, when it was cool to combine lolita's cuteness with the fetish wear worn for nightclubs. It wasn't necessarily done in order to sexualize the fashion, just to combine it with something that's the polar opposite of it to create something new.
Can't blame you for not liking it though, I'm not a fan of it either, especially since it looks bad most of the time.

>>9948558
when is it ero lolita and when is it just plain ita? I’m too flat brained to differentiate

>>9943841
I've made the experience that most lolita coats are not warm enough for north European winter. I now use my Victorian Maiden as an autumn coat instead. My Mary Magdalene coat holds warm until 0--5° though. Anything colder than that would be ass freezing though.

>>9948079
It's called renaissance sleeves, retard

>>9948566
Ita just means it looks bad. Or, well, so bad it's eye-searing and painful to look at. Ero can be done tastefully but unfortunately most of the time you'll see girls with no aesthetic sense attempting it, or just shriek that they can have their tits and ass out because it's an ero coord and we're all dumb for not realizing it; so a lot of times it does look ita. It doesn't have to be of course but good examples of ero are few and far between.

>>9948604
This just looks like a gothic coord with gloves?

>>9948566
Typically Ero Lolita refers to a state of undress, inspired by victorian undergarments such as bloomers + bustiers, corsets and visible hoop skirts, but also shorter lengths and exposed shoulders done tastefully with high quality garments such as >>9948558

>>9948611
I always picture the moon kana shoots for GLB when I think of ero lolita

>>9948614

>>9948438

A-anon I said a curved waistband, not replace it with a regular apron tie. You just make a curve instead of using a rectangle for the waistband. Pic related.

Then put the buttonholes back at both ends of it.

The buttonholes weren't really a problem to begin with, it's every other thing with the apron that's the issue.

>>9948618
I'm sorry senpai I didn't mean to misread it!!! Thank you so much for providing pic! I will update when I get it done

>>9948611

>gothic coord with gloves

nayrt, but. It's short, sleeveless, has a corset, tights have garter and corset print. It could be gothic, but it's certainly not MmM gothic lolita, nor even AtePi lolita. Only other place I can think of is if you were following taobao brands, some of them do their own take on "gothic" coords that don't necessarily follow the same aesthetic as Japanese gothic lolita brands.

I wonder if bring ero back to its roots like >>9948558 mentions would help keep ero lolita in better perspective. Take away the "state of undress, underwear" nonsense and instead ask "do you look like you're going clubbing". If you start to look like you should be performing striptease instead of being the cute pretty girl enjoying herself on the floor then you've gone too far. Good idea? Bad idea?

>>9948624
Thank you anon, I wholeheartedly agree with you. The "state of undress" bullshit that >>9948611 mentioned is ridiculous and doesn't translate well to actual fashion.

>>9946344
>incourage
>calling others dumbass

calm down you esl sperg.

>>9948617
If the girls who usually wear ero wore this, anons on cgl would still whine and cry and say it's not ero.

>>9948581
It's commonly referred to as michelin man sleeves, retard.

>>9943738
I got an apron and I look like a fat waitress with it on fml

>>9944043
These are so cute, holy shit.

>>9944061
Agree

>>9944531
I really do love the look of a peignoir or even a sheer overdress, as long as the silhouette and color work.

>>9948604
I always loved this girl and her coords! I haven’t seen her posted in ages.

I feel like there are no new trends lately. I’d personally love to see more velvet, silver or gold border prints, normal-waist or even drop-waist cuts, and new themes.

>>9949218
She updates a lot on Instagram, met Mana a bunch recently, and had a nice vacation in Paria recently.

>>9943935
30+ degree weather over a lot of the world, anon.

I wish this thread wasn’t so dead.

I also wish yellow and pale lavender would get more popular in sweet

>>9943747
Brands aren't making as many different releases of them, they're one of the last things that isn't being made to fit westerners (broader shoulder designs are needed to expand the market, not the easy step of larger waists/busts) and every year for the last 7 years has set record high temperatures in every season almost everywhere on earth. It's not a mystery.

>>9944531
peignoirs longer than the hem of the skirt have always been tacky though, i'm glad the trend is dead. only like 7 of you knew how to coord them