/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9948361
Big ol' samoan man looking to get into mori kei
Where do I start? Or is a dude like me boned out of this fashion?

>>9948444
No.

1/10 for getting me to reply.

>>9948444
I fucking love the mental image of that, anon. You're gonna look like a handsome, robust mountain man, go for it! It's a very shapeless fashion so it matters less what your body type is, you can play with proportion as you see fit. There aren't really any stores that cater to it, thrifting, vintage and antique stores are your best bet. A quick google search for 'mori kei male' will give you some ideas and inspiration. Sorry I don't have more exact links but I'm sure you can figure it out.

>>9948453
I have a couple of local thrift stores, I'll look into it and see what I can find. Thanks for the advice, it was helpful! My mistake was thinking there were stores that just sold the outfits.

How does payment from Milk's online store work? It says they'll provide payment options through email in their little guide thing, do they just email you requesting a certain amount sent to their paypal the way btssb does or is it some other way? I've used tenso in the past but this is the first time I've encountered anything like this.

I wish I could search Wunderwelt and Closet Child by size. Wunderwelt lets you search for pieces with shirring, but that doesn't apply to things like blouses, especially since I'm on the extremely skinny and petite end.

That being said, what are your experiences with the Japanese used clothing ranking systems?

>>9948683
I bought something from Milk last week and it just had PayPal like a normal online shop. I also used Tenso. Are you sure you haven't missed something?

>>9948689
>the Japanese used clothing ranking systems
You mean the garments' condition? I find that CC's is fairly accurate, if not slightly misleading in the positive sense; i.e. every piece I've gotten from them that supposedly had damages seemed to be perfectly fine.
Meanwhile WW's seems to be accurate as well except that their pricing doesn't really reflect the item's condition. They often sell pieces with very obvious damages for inflated prices, for no apparent reason. Personally I'd rather not pay $100+ for a stained JSK but that's just me.

Is it in bad taste to politely message someone on LM about an item they won a year + ago to see if they might be interested in selling it? I have only seen one listing for an older AP dress I have been looking for but it sold back in 2016. I am not sure if enough time has passed to inquire about it or if the whole thing is just faux pas.

>>9948731
I know some people don't mind this but I'd advise against doing this. It doesn't matter how much time has passed, if the dress is not up for sale then it's pretty rude to ask someone if they're selling it.

>>9948731
Don't. This is incredibly fucking rude.

What print is this called? I can't find anything about it online in terms of name, value and size.

>>9948731
You better be willing to offer big or don't do it at all. I've learned people have a price, even for pieces they love. If you're going to message someone and lowball them, you're going to get pure hate and maybe even posted here, so don't do it.

>>9948731
I've actually had an experience with this (as the one receiving that kind of message) and while I did think it was strange (I got the particular dress a long time before so I was like 'how did you even find that info?') I replied that I'd keep them in mind should I ever decide to let go of that dress. And I really will! I can't say if I'll ever really actually sell that dress as I love it, but who knows what the future holds and I will message that person should I decide to sell. Some people might find it really rude, but personally I don't. You need to prepare for either outcome and be willing to take that risk I guess?

>>9948696
So from S, A, B, etc., down to which ranking would you buy? I know secondhand is one of the better ways to start as a newlita, but I'm really hesitant to buy used clothing from overseas when I can't see the damage in person.

>>9948801
Depends, each store has their own way to rank pieces. I think in most stores C is the average condition of most pieces (i.e. used but in good condition without visible flaws), in some of them it's B.

I'm going to Tokyo Disneysea in about a month and they're having a whole Pirates of the Caribbean theme.
How Ita/Autistic would it be to wear my AttP Pirate Coord?

Does Bodyline no longer accept Paypal, or is it just me? I want some wristcuffs from them, but only feel comfortable using Paypal.

How in the world do you wear heels without cutting up the back of your feet? Does everybody else just rely on blister tape?

Sometimes I wear thicker socks and it still happens.

>tfw never wear tea parties

>>9949137
Are you serious? Wearing themed coords to a themed event is awesome! Afaik there's no issue wearing lolita to Tokyo DisneySea so you should definitely go for it. Live your life, anon!

How do you wear brand socks without them getting destroyed? I’ve never had this issue with non lolita socks but I have specific issues with print ones (AP and IW specifically) the threads start to sort of pull out around the printed/knitted in object? Also socks with gold threads in them, the gold thread starts to pull and pill on the surface of the sock?

>>9949406
Do you have correct sizing? It sounds like it could be too big if weaeing thicker socks help. I personally find the designs with non-detachable ankle straps best because they can be secured enough to avoid rubbing. Some sock materials also makes me get blisters no matter the shoe.

>>9949424
This doesn't happen to me but piggybacking off this question to ask why the fuck do my brand socks get so linty and dirty so fast, I take better care of them than I do my normie socks too

>>9948689
I bought a wunderwelt C rank item and they had some close ups of the damages but it looked fine? No stains just worn feeling.
Also if there are missing pieces it's D rank automatically. Dunno about anything else though. Don't risk it on low ranked shoes though, they're worse than they look

>>9948361
How the hell do i bypass the taobao pop up asking me to sign in?

>>9949480
Thanks for the help, anon! Yeah, it's probably that my shoes are a tad too big-- I have wide feet so shoes are either too narrow or a size up usually (especially from Asia where wide sizes are nearly nonexistent). I have like five pairs of shoes in my closet that I can't wear... I guess from now on I'll avoid any strapless.

>>9948689
with cc and ww its a fucking toss up.
I've seen cc rank items with B when they have a stain and I just bought a B item that had a pull.
But I've bought plenty of other B rank and they were like brand new
ww has higher standards for their rankings I feel.
They say C has stains/damages but I've bought C rank stuff that had none, just a worn feeling.
But at least with ww you can email them about the specific item. like you can ask why it's ranked what it is if you can't see it in the pics and they'll tell you.
One time I emailed them about why a skirt was ranked D, because it looked good, but just a bit worn, and they said there was a stain on the back, which they didn't even take close up shots of...

What is the least popular colorway/cut of honey cake?

Is it tokyo special set > round > switching > op/skirt? Ivory > yellow > pink > mint?

>>9949596
>especially from Asia where wide sizes are nearly nonexistent

Do you mean that you find shoes there tend to run narrower than western ones? I find it's the opposite, since I have wide feet and have issues with western shoes while Asian ones fit me perfectly.

Or were you talking about how they don't do separate width sizes like C, D, etc.? I'm curious because the only shoes I've ever seen in the west that include width sizing have been military boots. I'd be very interested in western shoe brands that actually offer wide sizing!

>>9949495
Just make an account.

>>9948731
Go for it! I sold a dress to someone who messaged me about it like that. At first I wasn't interested, but when I decided to sell it almost a year later I remembered her and she was still interested and bought it for the same price that I paid for it back then. Some gulls consider any message as ''rude and whiny'' but you won't get that dress if you don't try.

>>9949615
Granted, I've only brought only two or three Asian pairs and since I had to stretch them out myself I've been wary about buying another pair. Fellow wide-feet anon, do you have any recommended brands?

I usually stick to Payless for my wide sizes- horrible, I know, but I like that they have them available for me on the shelves without searching for them.

>>9949639
Which ones did you buy that you had to stretch out? I can't recommend specific brands in general, but I would suggest looking for shoes that are inherently cut wider, like those with very round toeboxes over more pointed, 'elegant' shoes. I mostly wear (flat) platform Mary Janes since I do a lot of old school and find them to be nice and roomy.

I think some of the difference in Asian vs. western shoes is actually toe length, which may change the fit of a shoe just like the waistline of a dress riding up higher on the body if you're too tall for it. I have stubby Asian toes, and whenever I shop for western shoes (especially peeptoes and sandals), I find my toes end like almost a good inch before where they're supposed to based on the cut of the shoe. It's frustrating.

I really want to start wearing j fashion on more of a daily basis rather than just to cons and meets.
I'm thinking of wearing a kind of casual pastel goth/menhera/bitter sweet
so lots of bat themes and eyeballs, creepy cute stuff.

I need brand suggestions!!

I have listen flavor, some angelic pretty stuff, hello cavities, and kawaii goods on my current list but need more places to shop at. Don't mind if it's indie brands, etsy or bigger brands.

Old pastel bat pic for reference.

>>9949653
What style do you normally wear to cons/meets? It would be good if you can get some nice things that you can dress up for meets and dress down for daily wear.

>>9949406
I try to wear two pairs of socks, like tiny those socks that are made to be hidden under shoes under my main otk socks or tights. Find they take a lot of the rubbing out of the issues with tea parties.

>>9949653
Personally I really love Na+H recently. Chantilly released cutsew dresses of some of their prints (pic related, you could wear it with a belt or something). Miho Matsuda also has a lot of casual lolita looks if you like black. You should look through webshops that sell multiple brands like Kera and Atelier Pierrot.

>>9949658
I tend to wear punk or gothic lolita co-ords, usually with dreamy sky or fantastic dolly.

So I have the accessories but not the main pieces. I like the idea of having pieces that can be dressed up or down depending on situation though.

>>9949674
>co-ords

It's coords.

>>9949674
>gothic lolita
>dreamy sky or fantastic dolly
How does that work? Neither of those prints are gothic.

>>9949685
They're probably ita or trolling

>>9949653
Candy Stripper
Hell Cat Punks
Peace Now
Milk
Milkboy
Putumayo
Miho Matsuda
Sex Pot Revenge
Na+H
Elements,H
Algonquins
Bubbles
h.Naoto
Rosemarie Seoir

>>9949651
Those bodyline ballet strap heels that everybody has, and some random normie heels/flats from Aliexpress. The bodyline shoes got easier to deal with over time but my feet still looked like hell if I walked too much. The most frustrating thing was I felt like I was constantly slipping to the toes (I'm also Asian, 23.5cm), but if I consciously try to stop it then the other end of my feet got cut up. I couldn't win.

I'll take your advice about shoe types to heart, anon. I actually hadn't thought about that. Thank you!

>>9949663
I'll have to try this too, thanks a lot!

>>9949685
>>9949688
I said gothic, I guess it's more bitter sweet. Ita? Ha ha maybe. Pic related what I actually mean. Was all the rage in 2013ish

>>9949668
Thanks, great tips.

>>9949695
That's perfect thanks so much.

>>9949406
The cutting up back of feet is a sizing issue not a heels issue. The pain you should feel from heels would be in the ball of your feet or arch or just generally uncomfortable.

Definitely make sure the shoes fit, and get jelly inserts. Wear backup shoes when traveling to and from the destination.

>>9949406
Wear better shoes

>>9949611
Probably pink skirt

Does maple wigs ship overseas?

>>9949826
Afaik you need a shopping service.

>>9949611
I think pink is the least popular actually

Does anyone know a real leather equivalent to AatP's Clara boots or even a similar cheaper shoe? I keep coming back to wanting these shoes but I hate paying so much for crappy brand pleather that flakes so fast and even when they pop up secondhand it's either for almost retail or they're beat up and peeling.

I know I'd probably have more luck in the winter when more normie brands bring out boots but if you guys even just have brand name suggestions I'd be very grateful.

>>9949833
Mint is the least popular.

Can anyone tell me if this is a fake? I bought it at a yard sale for 2 bucks so my life is to over if it is. I'd like to fix it up if it is real.

>>9949863
Seconding this, I owned a pair of Claras and wore them until they fell apart (which was actually a much longer run than I was expecting), I really don't want to buy another pair but I'd love something similar even if they're a bit normie-looking.

>>9949870
It should have the VW logo somewhere on it if it's legit, I suggest you look it over carefully to be sure. It looks fake to me though.

>>9949870
it's fake senpai

>>9949884
There are no logos on it, which makes me think it's fake. Can't find anything that matches it on the Google. The only marking on it says "18k." I'm not sure why you'd bother to gold plate a fake. But I suppose people do it.

Where do people buy/sell used lolita clothes now? I've been away from the lolita community since about 2013 so I have no idea what's going on anymore.

>>9949909
lacemarket

How do you wash a petti? The same as you would a dress or a skirt? Or do you just don't?
I'm scared of it losing poof by washing it or something

>>9949915
I use a voile petticoat; I put the waistband around the center post of the washer and run it on a delicate cycle, then tumble dry. Comes out just fine.

>>9949915
I machine wash mine on delicate and then lay spread out to dry

Has anyone here bought something from MeLikesTea? Is it trustworthy?

>>9950072
I bought a petticoat from there and had no problems.

>>9950082
I'll check it out some more then, thanks for your help!

>>9950072
>>9950090
MeLikesTea is a very reputable petticoat shop. I ran a group order for my comm with her shop last year. I love the two I ordered. Take your measurements carefully and you'll be very happy with the results.

>>9949789
Oh my god, I kind of actually miss spooky sweet. That was a fun time, but people complained about it so much.

>>9948444
You're gonna look like a sheep herder and it's gonna be great, my dude.

I bought this dress to diy and i want to make it more jfash oldschool like gothic, but subtly, so i can wear it around on a weekend.

I am thinking to add white lace on top of the cuffs and extend the skirt length with plaid? Its a bit short rn. What do you think? Any suggestions?

>>9950349
I feel that plaid would throw it into 2000s Hot Topic mallgoth territory. Don't do it.
Depending on your skill and how much effort you want to dedicate to it, personally I'd overhaul the collar, make it all while and more prominent to bring it over from a plain peter pan to a nun-inspired collar.
If you add lace to any part of it, please don't skimp on it. Not everything has to be top quality like lolita fashion so maybe it's just me but cheap raschel lace makes my skin crawl, it makes otherwise cute clothes look like garbage, at least in my opinion.
Lastly, it looks super short, you can add a layer to the skirt portion (sewn on the inside of the garment) with ruffles at the hem to make it a bit longer but there's a limit to the amount of length you can add to it before it looks stupid.

>>9950359
Oh god i had to look up raschel lace, and i would never. I love the idea to make the collar all white. I don’t think i have skill to overhaul the collar and put a new one in , but i can sew white over it, and it would be fine? Its a thin collar so it wouldnt be too bulky.

Yeah it is super short. The brand it is seems to specialize in slutty thot clothing which isn’t what im going for. It barely covers my butt. I think it needs 4 inches to be cute schoolgirl level. I also feel like it needs something between the collar and the waist. I could add cute buttons going down or mahbe somethin with lace?

I have a fondness for hot topic mallgoth era, but yeah it would be a bad idea

>>9950368
Buttons will be cute, just a few near the collar like pic related will add some detail to the dress without overdoing it. Since they're not going to be functional you can be creative with the kind that you choose, like ones shaped like crosses or skulls for example.

I'm a bit exhausted so articulating my thoughts is somewhat of a struggle right now lol but I think you're on the right track. Maybe another gull can add their input too.
Good luck, anon!

>>9950349

Honestly other than collar idea I wouldn't really bother (and even the collar idea is only if you happen to like white collars) -- this is a really minimalist normie-looking short dress, and all your ideas so far feel like they're trying to fit two clashing fashion ideals together, the end result is probably going to look off because the silhoutte is so minimal that any excess lace looks out of place on it.

I'd suggest simply channeling Wednesday Addams and maybe going with tumblr witchy aesthetic if you want to go goth with it. If the skirt is really short, you could cut it off and turn it into a blouse, at least you might be able to insert that into a nanchatte seifuku coord at some point. Maybe. Another option is to go with adding some tacky Larme-ish detail like corset lacing on the sleeves, but that's pretty much non-oldschool and isn't all that subtle.

Honestly if you want to do: subtle, oldschool, gothic and DIY, you may be better off learning to sew your own dress. At least you can design it from scratch to be consistently girly, rather than trying to tack on some lace and hope it looks okay with the minimalist sleeves, and make a longer skirt to begin with rather than try to lengthen the skirt and hope it doesn't look too stupid.

>>9950383
Thanks i think you are right. Its too minimalist and the white line stuff on the sleeve. I’m not a cgl person. I was into mana era princess ai stuff 10 years ago and never got into newer stuff. I dont want to coord or anything i just wanted to bring back the feeling of that era i liked a lot.

I like white collars. I think i’ll just tie a white ribbon to peak out under it. I’ll see if i can lengthen it with a ruffle tier hem thing and if it doesnt work, it’ll make a bitchin wednesday adams top

I’m not a good fashion designer like i want lots of stuff that dont fit together. I’ll learn more sewing though and maybe ii can think of something

>>9950349
Are you from /fa/?

>>9949789
You should look at the model snaps on kerastyle.jp

Does anyone own both the 2011 and 2013 releases of misty sky in lavender? I don't care for the cut,I just want to see how different the shades are.

Why are so many chinese bots following my tumblr?

>>9949495
http://42.51.0.13/api/taobaoSearch.aspx

its a proxy ^^

I'll admit to being a newfag but I'd rather embarass myself online than in person
Are translolitas frowned upon provided they actually pass and don't look like a dude in drag?

Is it possible for someone who doesn't live in Japan to join Yahoo Card or would I have to ask a SS for it? Is it even worth it? I can't get most info in here to be translated to english, so I'm super confused...: https://card.yahoo.co.jp/campaign/?p=auc&prem_opt=P_4003.C_AtoC0001

Does anyone know of a sewing pattern for cutsews/knit boleros?

>>9951327
Depends on the comm. Here, people have made rather disparaging comments about trans lolitas, but in real life people probably won't say shit. Lolitas as a whole tend to be a lot more PC and inclusive, so I'm fairly sure it's just a few salty seagulls who can't deal.

>>9951374
Cool. I'm in a pretty liberal area too, so here's hoping.

>>9951327
In many comms trans lolitas aren't frowned upon even if they don't pass, which sometimes compromises comms' safety when the person in question isn't trans but uses the label to avoid being called out on their shit.
Anyway, if you put in an effort to look good and don't use the fashion as fetish fodder, you'll most often than not be accepted regardless of your gender.

If I did multiple music-themed coords, would that be frowned on in a comm? Obvi with different dresses and everything, but

>>9951370

Otome no sewing has a few issues with cutsews and boleros in them, but not knit or crochet stuff. The handmade thread is at >>9887481, some anons can probably help you figure out which exact issue if you want the cutsews.

>>9951423
Why would it be frowned upon? Some might even be impressed with your ability to stick to a certain theme. Wear what you want.

>>9951423

If you dress badly you'll just be an ita.
If you wear the same dress over and over they'll start wondering if you're poor or a cosplayer in it for the tea meetups.
If you're creeping/rude/annoying to the members they'll call you creep/rude/annoying (regardless of whether or not you're wearing music prints).
If you insist every meetup has to be music themed that'll get annoying and they'll be annoyed.

Outside of that no one actually cares, to be honest you probably won't even register on some members' radars, especially if the comm is big and there's always some girl coming or going. At most, maybe a year later someone finally notices you always wear music prints, goes "oh you must really like music" and that's about it.

So yeah, you'll be fine. Except for your own behaviour trying to make it a bigger deal than it really is.

>>9951344
They are definitely not going to let you get a credit card if you don’t live in Japan and shopping services can't help you with this either.

Does anyone know of any other brands like Pink House or Gunne Sax that still sell stuff suitable for Natural kei?

>>9951327
Think of it as something similar to "gamer gurls". If you are a girl who plays games, good for you. But if you are a girl who only boasts about she plays video games for attention, people will ridicule you. Same thing here,but not openly. Dress well, don't put your "trans" label everywhere, and for the love of god never use "translolita" again.

>>9951545
Franche lippee?

Starting to build my wardrobe and i wanna start wearing nanchatte but im having an issue with finding appropriate collared shirts to go with it. My shoulders are 40cm but my waist is around 83 to 86 and will get smaller compared to the rest of me
>fatty chan working on being non fatty chan
Are there any alternatives to arconomi that i can get in the us. Im afraid ill have to buy from overseas and hope getting it altered doesnt fuck it up.

>>9951545
Miss point might have some stuff? I just buy vintage gunne sax

Hey guys, i've been wondering, is there any post or video that features a wardrobe of over, say, 50 or even 100 mainpieces? I really want to see an insanely huge wardrobe post.

>>9951770
There are several on lj, 50 isn’t that big, and quite a few have 100 that post.

>>9948361
I want to do this oldschool style "no boobs whatsoever" look. My bust is 88cm, my cup size is B. Sport bras don't do it for me. Should I buy a binder? Or maybe I should invest in a corset, which type would be the best?

>>9951803
Corsets don’t make your boobs smaller. Try a binder

>>9951725
>>9951725
You can literally look up hundreds of uniform shops online who are in/ship to the us. Old navy has some nice shirts sometimes in their uniform section, but I find their stuff is much bigger than stated. I ordered a large shirt from them once because I wanted it to be a bit baggy, and it was more like an xxl, it was huge.

>>9951803
I'm 93cm bust with B cups and if I get a small enough sports bra, it works. just have to make sure it's a size or so smaller than I need, and one of those heavy impact ones. if one doesn't work following those guidelines, sometimes stacking 2 helps. I wouldn't suggest a corset as corsets make strange angular lines under clothing. No experience with binders.

>>9951725

Wow, what's trending in the plus size office wear shops near you right now? I'd think a simple, plain white shirt would be a staple for every size and every location/year/season, considering the number of companies that require three-piece suits no matter your size, but I guess there's no accounting for weird manufacturing trends.

Anyhow, I'd suggest looking on taobao and filter for plus size -- taobao thread is at >>9880689, although it's pretty close to post limit. There's a dictionary in the opening post, you should be able to find the keyword for plus size in it. If you're using the mainland site you should also be able to select XL sizing as one of the filters.

If that doesn't work out, then I'd suggest a local tailor. At least they can measure you in person and make sure it fits.

So I've never bothered with Grand Bazaar anything since it's so limited/in person, but now with these ridiculous new HL colorways I'm interested. Are things sold at the Grand Bazaar normally only released there, not online ever? Like it's either get a personal SS to go there and order it or nothing? And is this typically more of an MTO or is it probably limited quantities?

Why is Q-pot so insanely expensive? Is their stuff handmade or something?

>>9951966
They aren’t that expensive poorfag

>>9951969
Not compared to like, actual jewelry, but they are when compared to for instance APs bijouteries

>>9951770
https://egl.livejournal.com/tag/community%3A%20wardrobe%20post

I just want to know why headbows are called kcs. Tried to Google it and found nothing. Please help a dumbass like me and explain why headbows are called kcs even in English-speaking sales pages.

>>9951987
http://www.fyeahlolita.com/p/lolita-glossary.html

>>9951987
It stands for "kachuusha", or "katyusha", which is what headbands are generally called in Japanese. Wasei-eigo is a beautiful thing.

>>9951987
Found this one post
>https://egl.livejournal.com/15352772.html
So yeah, katyusha

>>9949424
it's not just brand socks with those issues. Even cheapo socks do the pully thing at the knitted in parts. it's just how they are made. luckily with socks you can get a tiny crochet hook and gently/carefully slip it through the weave and fix it a bit, especially if you have any loose ends near the pulls.

>>9951966
I thought the same thing until I actually got my first qpot necklace! It's worth the price, they're made of durable rubber and have a nice weight. They feel like actual jewelry (and some of their pieces are, like gold and silver) vs AP jewelry

>>9952023
Ah, well that explains it then. It was actually meant as a genuine question, not as a complaint. I don't mind paying more as long as I'm paying for quality and not just for a brand logo.

>cotton skirt
>chiffon blouse
>semi opaque tights
>ankle leather boots

Yay or nay in theory?

>>9952040
Way too general to tell. It's not just fabrics and textures, all of these items can have varying designs that either do or don't work together. Post a pic.

>>9951489
Thank you, anon... *sobs *

I'm considering buying a probably poorly constructed and printed "lolita" taobao jsk for casual con wear because it looks cute. It's hot as fuck too so at most I'd wear some light outer wear but
>breaking millions of lolita rules
>bare shoulders
I'm not a lolita and wouldn't call myself one while wearing the dress but I don't want to be the subject of scorn for legit lolitas or accidentally insult the fashion. Thoughts?
>tfw failed my fellow seagulls by becoming an ita

>>9951770
I have 50 pcs and it's so strange that anyone would consider it "insanely huge"

>>9952172
No one actually cares than much. But desu the quality of the dress will be shit and you should want to wear something better even casually.

>>9952181
I'm not quite at 50 (I have 40 or so) but when you factor in blouses/accessories/corsets/jackets it feels like a lot.

>>9952172

Adding to other anon, a lot of the cheap taobao printed dresses are polyester. You're going in the opposite direction wrapping yourself in plastic trapping heat in, plus the bacteria that stays in it tends to create a funky kind of BO that's also hard to get rid of.

I'd honestly just do a cutesy or fandom T-shirt print if it's that bad, or if you want to be girly, then a quality natural normie fibre dress. You can always carry an itabag or clip things to your normal bag if you want to also stand out as a weeb.

>>9952181
I think it also depends on how big your home/closet is. I have a pretty small apartment and I also have around 50 pieces with me and I feel like it's way too many for my living space, but not necessarily a lot.

Got a question gulls

>Buy thing on LM
>Seller says she sent the invoice
>No Paypal notification in email, but invoice there when I log-in to PP so I pay
>Msg seller to let her know I paid
>No further messages from seller after a day

I'm wondering if maybe the seller is having the same problem I had with not receiving PP notifications in email, and she's just waiting for an email saying the invoice was paid.

I don't want to leave the seller hanging and thinking I never paid, so should I send another msg on LM and let them know about the PP email issue in case they're having the same problem? Or do most sellers know about the email notification issue (since it seems to be a recurring problem with PP).

>>9951963
Is that the same wine colorway or a different red? If it’s the same red, why are they bringing back that particular color?

>>9952590
A lot of sellers ghost me after I pay so it’s kind of normal? Plus you already messaged them on lm, you can if check it they read it or not on the website. Or they have lm notifications on their email so they get the message but don’t open it on the website so it’ll say unread. lots of different things could be going on. just message them, then you will get your answer right.

What are these leather arm belt straps called? Some characters who wear them are Kurisu Makise and chuunibyou chars, Yuuta I think... I need help on what they're called so I can search for them easily.

>>9949653
Don't buy from KawaiiGoods, they copy/steal art and their stuff is pretty meh anyways.

I personally wear a lot of old putumayo, sex pt revenge, and h.naoto as it's easy to get cheap second hand, but here are some casual J-fashion indie brands I like:

CherryCheezy (menhera/yamikawaii, and yumekawaii)
Octopie (Fairy kei and yumekawaii)
Ocean in Space (genera fashion, but lots of J-fashionable stuff)
Puvithel (menhera)
Ota-Q (fairy kei/yumekawaii)
Pandy Apparel (yamikawaii/creepy cute plus general stuff)

>>9952799
leather bracelet or belt bracelet

>>9952618
Same red, likely because it’s the most wanted colour. It sold the most in the MTOs and so has been rereleased a bit more than the others.

>>9951963
If they don't sell out they will put it up online I believe but it's not guaranteed

>>9952840
Oh, thanks for the reply - I should have put here that I had asked this question while at work but then read the general later and everyone had discussed it there. I went ahead and put in an order with Lolita Desu since I was wanting the orange and I didn't want to risk it.

>>9952810
Yeah I find it interesting that I also ordered for my friend, and despite all these fun colors that are limited she wanted the red which has been rereleased like 5 times. But hey, her money.

>>9952803
Thanks those brands are exactly what I was looking for! Much better stuff than kawaii goods.

>>9952810
It’s a different red, ‘light wine’ instead of ‘wine’

>>9952590
I always just message the seller after I pay. I had never had an issue with paypal not sending me an email about my invoice until today, but just to be sure, I paid then sent the seller a message letting them know. I try to be really communicative with my purchases though... nothing is worse than someone who never replies and never lets you know if something has been shipped, etc... so annoying.

>>9952854
It's a MTO. You'll get it in February next year.

>>9952926
This.

>>9952895
Np! Happy shopping~

Can someone help identify these wigs (or recommend similar) - I refuse to believe that Lockshop’s mermaid looks nice irl but desperately need a wig that resembles these.

how do you clean liz lisa on a regular basis? tossed my stripe rose OP in the washing machine on a cold water/delicate cycle, and it faded like crazy

>>9953122
I'm a crazy overcautious person who hand washes all my lolita, and I do the same for my Liz Lisa items. I haven't experienced any fading/bleeding/pilling or anything by doing this. It's a pain in the ass to handwash this much though, so hopefully you get a different response than mine.

I feel stupid for asking this, but...how long does it take for shirring to stretch out? Like if someone plus sized wore a shirred item for a day would it be stretched out, no it will be fine, or if it will be is it at least just temporary?

Basically my friend and I both own the Holy Lantern zipper JSK and as we get towards Halloween are starting to plan wearing them. I'm on the lower bust sizing of the dress and it's actually a little too big and puffy from the full back shirring, meanwhile she's at 110cm bust-ish I think. We've excitedly talked in the past about how cool it is that we could borrow each other's HL to have a different color but I find myself a bit worried about stretching since it's already a little bit big on me.

The answer is likely that nothing will happen, I just thought I'd ask and soothe my fears.

>>9953224

I lend my shirred stuff to my friend pretty often and nothing has ever been damaged. She's 100cm bust and I'm 92cm bust, though, so maybe we're not the best examples...

If you really don't feel comfortable swapping dresses with her, it's best just not to. Make up some excuse like you want to wear your own dress and just let that be that.

>>9953122
That's how I normally clean mine, but I've never had anything fade like that. Which OP was it and what kind of fabric?

>>9953122
Seconding >>9953271 I've never had a problem either. But most of my pieces are from 2016 or before, I haven't washed a dress I bought last year (because I never wore it) so maybe the fabric quality went down

>>9953224
once or twice won’t do damage, plus that cut is on the larger side of AP so it’s nothing to worry about.

How did you guys get into Jfashion?
I wear lolita fashion, im use to checking measurements and knowing what will fit and what wont but i feel like liz lisa and gyaru styles are more unforgiving with sizes.
Ive tried LL before and because i was chubby/had a chest and butt it always ended up too short or looking bad. Now that i got into sports, and my body fat changed its distribution/my body shape changed, im wanting to experiment again especially now that i easily wear size S (at least by europes standards).

would my best bet be picking up a bunch of cheap stuff on Y!J, mbok, etc or buying a few pieces from fellow euros in case they dont work with my body type and i dont risk paying a ton of VAT?

>>9953117
Maybe try Dreamholic?

>>9953366
yeah for sure try to get some nice second hand from your country, and if it fits well you can go from there, using a ss to buy directly from the source

>>9953366
Liz Lisa is more forgiving than it used to be. I have pieces from before 2010 that are pretty much US size 0, but now there's a lot of stuff with shirring. They even have a "tall" size of some things.

Blouses are probably still a no go if you've got >88cm bust, but loads of dresses, skirts, and sweaters can accommodate US medium sizes.

I second what >>9953371 says. Try out some secondhand and if it fits, go for it at the source.

>>9953378
>>9953371
thanks guys.
yeah most of the Liz Lisa ive tried from friends was 2010/2012. One of the dresses i tried on ended up only covering half my butt.

My bust is 80cm, So i think i can start taking my chances.

how do you decide if salopettes look alright on you? I feel like mine is too short but i cant tell if thats how it should be.

how do people get invited to cons as guests? by having shit ton of fans and having them ask for you?

>>9953381
some of the tops / dresses can be worn with a skirt underneath, or sukapan - skirt shorts
but yeah I’m only 5’2” and the dresses are borderline too short

are aliexpress/ebay threads no longer allowed or just not popular?

>>9953117
Absolutely do not buy Lockshop wigs. I think it's honestly better to shop around good, thick cosplay wig taobao stores. They usually have a lolita section.

>>9953453
Be interesting, good at entertaining, and have done something noteworthy. Being nice to everyone helps, cons would rather have a guest who is easy to work with but not quite as well known than someone who more known but an ass

>>9952172
Why not just buy a printed skater dress? Look up places that can do that for you because it's pretty easy.

It'd be infinitely cheaper and you won't have to jump through hoops to please actual lolitas. You're also going to have a really complex and difficult design to create and you won't know lace quality. You obviously don't care that much for the fashion if you want it cheap and want to break the rules so much. It's not really lolita at that point, so I think something cute and simple is better.

>>9952799
>>9952806
Belt bracelet was the closes thing it was search relevant to. Thanks anon.

>>9953122
I do washing machine - cold water, normal cycle but in a mesh laundry mag and air/line dry.
I have easily owned over 100 LL pieces including newly released stuff and none have faded like you’ve described. Could it be your detergent?

>>9953436

Half the salopettes from lolita brands aren't really lolita. If you have one of those, there's no rules on how short they should be. And even if you have one of the Lolita ones it's easy to coord them fairy kei or some other cute style than lolita.

Just make sure you (and your legs) look good in it. And don't tag lolita if it's not.

>>9953524
Did someone ask you if it's lolita?

>>9953524
im not asking if theyre lolita/how to make them lolita.
I just ment at what point should people know they dont look good in them (besides obvious tightness, boobs flopping out both sides, etc) and if there was a general rule like so many inches past butt, only alright as a sack or as long as they look good when you wear leggings/tights or what.

I have one from a brand but its not a print and wanted to wear it as semi normie wear like generic skirt overalls.

I’m not into petticoats at all. If i’m just trying to be fancy goth j fash rather than gothic lolita, would dresses still look bad without petticoats? I think if i want to be fancy goth, i’ll have to turn to lolita brands, because there aren’t any brands that make stuff like this anymore. And i’m very new , so are there any brands i can look into? I grabbed this pic of my ideal dress. I dont like ruffles or fancy things. I want really understated stuff

>>9953224
there's only risk of damage if the wearer is above max in waist and/or bust and wears it around over max. I'm pretty sure full backshirring in that cut goes to 112cm so your friend is fine. bust is a little forgiving because of the nature of the tissue. waist and underbust are not imo, because the ribs don't give.

If her 110bust is obviously larger than her waist, her frame will not damage the jsk.

>>9953578
No offence anon, but the dress on that picture is worn with a petticoat. Lolita dresses are made to be worn with these, so are sewn diffrently and mostly look awful without them. Even if you see a picture with low poof, the girl is still wearing a smaller petti.
Try western brands, if you search deeper I'm sure you will find something.

>>9953620
Oh dang, i thought there wasn’t a petti. I guess i’ll have to try a petti maybe. I’ve never worn one. Maybe i will like it. The petti in the pic i posted doesnt seem so bad. Thanks anon i might have bought some dress with no petti and been disappointed

I’ve searched around so much and fancy goth seems totally dead unless i’m into bondage crap or cheap rave costume. I’m also size small, almost an asian small, and...western brands seem to be getting super fat. I’ll keep looking and maybe try vintage

>>9953630
>I’ve searched around so much and fancy goth seems totally dead
Yeah, I know the struggle. If you just look at most popular brands you only see lace made of car tires and materials that are nearly see-through.
I don't really know what you mean by "fancy goth", but I guess you mean romantic, kinda vampiric one? I'm not sure I can help here, as I wasn't successful in searching either, but I think you need at the high-end stores. And I mean, really high end.
Petticoats aren't really something terrible to wear either. Just don't buy a cheap one thinking it will be enough. The better it is, the comfier.

>>9953630
Romantic goth is certainly alive. You should try western gothic brands and thrifting, since you're not really looking for JFash specifically.

>>9953630
>>9953578
There are normie shops that have high quality you can wear for a gothic look, but they wouldn't market themselves as just a goth brand. You should look at yohji yamamoto, alexander mcqueen, ann de de meulemeester etcetera... There are Japanese goth brands a bit cheaper that you don't need a petticoat for, like alice auaa

>>9953639
Yeah, i know what you mean by high end stores, and usually they’re not inherently gothic, like, i would have to compensate with makeup. Yeah i mean romantic vampire fashion, but more toned down. A nice long gothic black dress with a couple ruffles and lace is surprisingly hard to find. I will buy a perticoat that isnt from aliexpress haha

>>9953641
I cant find any western brands that have what i want. There are no brands that aren’t cheap knockoffs of j fash and just glue lace and ribbons willy nilly or put stupid random rips in it, or a corset outside the dress like a ren fair hooker look.

i’ve just looked at more AP stuff and the like, and i admit i’m kind of getting into it. I always thought j fash was more aesthetic than when gothic was popular in the west, anyway. I’ve also been thrifting more and possibly may find some good stuff!

>>9953651
Why don't you just get some shirts from Moitie and Miho Matsuda and wear them with a normie skirt or jeans

>>9953655
I’ll try that. I havent heard of those brands but i looked them up and i really like miho matsudas stuff. I was mostly lookihg for non petti dresses cuz i’m lazy and dont wanna coordd pants and top but i think this is a good option for me

>>9953651
Scope out brands verging on burner fashion like Miss Be and Ritual, and don't neglect the fetish brands for shiny fancy stuff. Back in the day everyone wore combinations of Jeannie Nitro, Shrine, Lip Service, Stormy Leather, latex clothing from literally anywhere (much better selection of that now than there used to be), as well as Dark Garden, Patricia Field, Betsey Johnson, Naughty Lola, stuff from thrift stores, old punk gear from consignment shops or ebay, whatever wild shit we could get our hands on from the UK (Catwalk! Velda Lauder!), high fashion brands, and a LOT of handmade things. I took a break from the goth scene about 10 years ago, I guess a lot of other people did too. Moral of the story is a lot of goth stuff wasn't marketed as goth stuff. Even 20 years ago.

>>9953651
Somniaromantica is reopening soon, maybe that's more your thing?

Do people really wear bloomers as underwear, or do they wear panties beneath the bloomers? Because I do the latter and I can't imagine using the bloomers themselves as underwear even if that's the traditional way.

>>9953820
Bloomers are meant to emulate historical underwear, they're not historically accurate and are definitely not supposed to replace regular underwear.

>>9953651
You need to look at non-lolita indie brands for this style really; If there's an Oddities market near you, try that

>>9953501
You can also try leather cuff or bondage bracelet

Am I retarded for wearing pins/brooches with brand dresses? I’m afraid that one day my love for accessories will come back to bite me and I’ll end up ruining a dress that has sentimental value. Is there a magical way to pin something on my clothes without actually puncturing the fabric?

>>9953870
Get a magnapin, its basically a pair of magnets one that attaches to the needle part of the brooch and other under your clothing to attach the brooch, theyre like $15 iirc but you can reuse them with any pin

>>9953549

That's the point. If it's not lolita, it can be any other fashion, and there's no rule for how long it needs to be.

Whether or not it looks good on you, just look in the mirror. Do you look good? Do your legs look good? Does it look slutty? Does it look silly? Do leggings look all right with it? etc etc.

When you shop for normie generic skirt overalls you'd put them on the dressing room and see if it looks good on you. Just do the same with your brand salopette. If it looks good, it's good to go. If it doesn't, underskirt time. It's really that simple.

>>9953537

Lolita skirts need to be longer than mid-thigh.

So if the salo was lolita, that would be the rule.

If the salo was not lolita, that would not be the rule.
If the salo was not lolita, it can be shorter than mid-thigh.

Clearer now?

>>9953876
You are an angel, I didn’t even know those existed.

>>9953870
I usually will pin them to the blouse, especially if they are those fat single needle pins.

If the pin is the style of pic related, I will actually clip it around the strap of my jsk, not actually puncturing it through the fabric, but having it just sit on the dress with the strap inside. If I can't do that on a certain dress I would actually just pin it through the regular way because the needles tend to be much thinner. I try to find a spot that would usually be covered, like under a layer of short lace or something.

>>9951963
I don't recall ever seeing a release of HL in orange or teal. This looks like a replica.

>>9953899
They're releasing orange and teal for the Grand Bazar retard. New colors.

>>9953899
Do you understand the concept of releasing new colourways? And yeah, they look like replicas because replica designers did different colourways, AP realised people were buying them, and decided to cash up....

>>9953904
>>9953905
Well I guess that's why this is the stupid question thread. My bad. I remembered someone posting something about a green or teal replica and got my wires crossed.

>>9953910
There was one made years ago, that’s the joke. They clearly saw the replica and thought it was an ok colour to do.

>>9953892
I mostly wear antique pins, the needles are almost always thick, bent or rusty (or a combination of the three). The JSK tip is really useful, I’ll have to try wearing them this way!

>>9953820
Traditional bloomers of the sort that are meant to be underwear have a split crotch. I've never seen lolita bloomers with a split crotch.

>>9952172
just dont call it lolita or post it online.

So I need to ask because I don't know if I just made a dumb impulse purchse, Japonica just grabbed for me the lot of all 63 GLBs on Fril for ¥20000 shipped in Japan. The spines look to be in good shape though I don't want to get my hopes up about inserts and such. A sentance in the description didn't translate well? (他、応募などに使った封筒のきり抜きの号が数点あると思います。) I'm probably going to get absolutely fucked with international shipping.

Was this a good deal? I've been wanting to get GLBs for a while but it looked like a pain in the ass to get every volume, and here it is all in one lot for about $3 a book and not having to deal with selling overlapping issues from multiple lots. But it being international will be killer.

(And does anyone know if there's an international version of media mail from Japan...?)

Does anyone know why paypal isn't a paymnt option on bodyline atm despite it being listed in their header? I've tried multiple browsers and still no paypal option.

Also, where is a good place to get custom RHS? I'm a giant with 10.5 US feet and most places never have my size.

is there some sort of secret or special way to wear rectangle headdresses? I fucking love them on other people but they make me look like a retarded old fashioned baby.

I was thinking of cosplaying a lvl 3 Drift (only lvl 3 because the cloak would be too hard to get right) at PAX next year but I'm not sure if I could pull it off. I don't have a load of experience sewing and I reckon it'd need alot of custom work for the vest. The mask isn't a big problem since I already have the skillset to make that. What do you guys think?

>>9954090
Big hair, framing strands and fringe. I love the rectangle headdress but I started out wearing the smaller classic VM/MM style and then moving to bigger, rufflier pieces. I think the only things I keep away from are really wide pieces and making sure it sits back far enough on my head

>>9954042
There’s a printed matter service called M-bag

>>9954042
>And does anyone know if there's an international version of media mail from Japan...?
No.

>I'm probably going to get absolutely fucked with international shipping.
Yes.....

Good luck, anon, I sincerely hope your country won't levy heavy customs fees on top of everything.

>>9954109
Thanks anon, I'll try some wigs and different hairstyles to see if I can work it.

>>9954042
Rip. GLBs are heavy as fuck.

>>9954042
I'm curious so I did the math. GLBs weight around 500 - 700 gramms per issue. Let's say they all weight 600g, that's 37800 gramms for 63 magazines, so 37,8 kg. Japan has a weight limit of 30kg so you most likely have to split the order in two - 30 kg and 7,8 kg. I'm not sure if I remember it correctly, but I think I Japonica only accepts Airmail and EMS heavier thinks? Depending on your country, you can calculate the approx shipping here: https://www.post.japanpost.jp/cgi-charge/index.php?lang=_en

>>9954147
Then you have to calculate the two shipping costs together, add the article price, service and payment fees and divide the total through 63. This way you'll most likely pay between 900 and 1200 yen per magazine, so not really that much of a good deal but not too horrible either.

>>9954042
Ask if they will do surface mail or sea mail

>>9954125
I live in the USA where that’s super rare so at least I have that going for me.

>>9954120
>>9954175
Thanks for the suggestions! I really hope japonica is willing to work with me on this and won’t just charge EMS.

>>9954155
Eep, the worst case shipping sounds awful, but thank you for running the number anon - I feel like even if the shipping is bad it’ll be worth it. Not having to hunt them for years due making me so happy.

How does Antaina's shoe sizing work? I measured my foot length in centimeters and got 25.5?

Stupid Question - Is this...good? I can't tell the difference between good or bad lolita fashion yet. How can I tell besides it being a big brand?

>>9954526
It looks cheap, imo, and the watermark says Milanoo, which should be avoided at all costs. Good on you for trying to do some research, anon.

>>9954512
Check the whole listing or the front page of their store. They usually have the centimeter equivalence there.

>>9954527

Danm, that looks cheap?? I thought it looked really nice. Thick lace, great color, I like the plating design. I guess the sleeves look a little blah now that I really look at it. I looked at Milanoo.com and they have good reviews...so I was a little hopeful. I guess it's easy to fake those.

>>9948361
What would be the best secondhand site to buy in bulk from price wise? I'm finally almost done losing a ton of weight and now I need an entire closet full of clothes. I know wunderwelt isn't always the cheapest, but maybe the points would make a difference? I've only bought a few things at a time before so any tips are appreciated. I'm also assuming shopping services get super expensive if you buy 5+ main pieces and etc but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

>>9954526

Same anon. Like this looks legit?? It's so pretty. Bad good? Lace Monster? Cheap looking?

>>9954548
Wunderwelt indeed doesn't have the cheapest priceds, but they're currently running a 10% off ¥5000+ coupon and always have a ¥5000 EMS shipping discount for if you order ¥50000 or more which often can be free shipping. Points build up fast once you become a higher member and their coupons and points also can be used with new items on Fleur (which is how I've gotten up there as I use them to buy from some brands like Sheglit).

Otherwise, Cloest Child has stuff that's pretty damn cheap and their shipping never seems crazy and always reasonable for what I've bought.

LM is a pricey western market, and shopping services always charge way more than you think so it really is not cheap even if you can find a lot of very affordable things on Fril/Mercari/Yahoo Japan.

>>9954550
Era of lace monsters is long gone. Now we have taobao brands that look good only on promotional photos. Chinese shop to hell and back, you never know what material the dress will be, how well it will be constructed etc. If you are a newbie, first lurk, a lot. Stick to japanese brand, it isn’t as expensive now.

>>9954557

Aaha, ok I'm getting a better picture now.

>Stick to japanese brand, it isn’t as expensive now.
You're telling me! I bought a new AATP OP a few days ago for like $250? Stuff that's second hand and stained sells for more on LM I've noticed. Must be the rarity of the print.

>>9954552
Thanks for the advice anon. I wasn't sure if 400+ at once was really that great for my wallet, but if $450 gets free shipping it'll almost be worth it for shoes alone.

>>9953578
You are talking about EGA, boz and moitie make it sometimes.

Has anyone used Lolita Desu or Sunny Shopping Tokyo for in store Tokyo ss and know which might be better to use? I was a little late and unable to use Muuh and Accio Tokyo shut down back in May. I want to start having a back up ss so I'm not sol next time.

CC just posted one of my dream items on their twitter but it hasn't made it to their site yet. Is there an SS that will buy things CC post to their twitter?

>>9949143
>Does Bodyline no longer accept Paypal, or is it just me?

During the last thread, around the time when they launched their new website, some anons said it was a problem with their page and had been fixed.

Now I want to buy a few things and come across the same problem. Credit card only.

I have a pink Sweet Poodle's Regimental Stripe Skirt but I feel like it sits a bit too high above the knee. It's btssb though so I'm not sure if it's acceptable for proper lolita. I really want to wear it for a meet tomorrow but I don't want to end up on the ita thread...

Sorry for bad photo quality

>>9954724
What does it look like with a petticoat on? I personally think it's too short for a "proper" lolita silhouette, but if you wear tights it might be okay? It really depends on what you're going for
And as for your fear of getting posted, I don't know how to help you there, if you willing let yourself be in a picture there is much you can do, it's really dependent on the girl in your comm

>>9954728

That is with a petticoat on (I lost my good one so I'm waiting until I go to japan in september to get another good one). I was going to wear long socks that go up to my knees with it.

>>9954730
same person

I'd do something like this?
But keep it mind it's about balancing so if you I'd wear a long sleeve blouse, if you wear long socks instead of tights

>>9954737
Sorry I jumbled my words, but I think you get the point

>>9954724
I'd say it's way too short. Just because something is from a lolita brand doesn't mean it fits the aesthetic.

>>9954740
I agree, but I do think that styling could push it into lolita, ignore those fugly ass boots in the pic tho

>>9953378
This. A lot of the new stuff is TOO big for my tastes. Good news for most westerners though.

>>9954740
>>9954742

>>9954737

I was planning on black long sleeve blouse, black shoes, white long socks with a little pink on them, pink bag, pink headbow, and white parosel, maybe a pink coat / cardigan depending on the weather. I'd wear a white blouse but then the shoes might not match. Sorry I'm a newb.

>>9954596
I've used Sunny Shopping Tokyo before and they were great, though their ability to get multiples of certain items tends to be limited. Fair pricing, up front about everything, and they get back to you right away if they can't grab something. Definitely would recommend.

>>9954724
it's much too short and your thighs/butt are much too curvy (that's not a bad thing imo, but the skirt is riding up in the back because it's a bit too small and your butt is a bit too big for it (due to it's size)) I'm not sure it'll be proper lolita due to these issues... it looks too "sexy" because it's too small/short.

>>9954751

My butt is a problem sometimes haha, well better start looking for something else then.

Does anyone know why bodyline not accept paypal anymore?

>>9954753
I have the same problem as you do in the butt/thighs anon. it's sad, especially when trying to dress cute. Alas.

>>9954764
it's probably an error or something, I've wondered the same. it still lists paypal as a payment option though... who knows with bodyline.

>>9954750
Thank you!

I heard that some of Bodyline's uniform skirts have inseam pockets. How do I know which ones do? I'm not seeing it on any of the product pages.

Anyone know how warm brand lolita coats are? I've got one Baby shortcoat with a fur collar that looks wintery, but it's barely warm and is really more for autumn weather. I'm planning to move to Canada soon and don't want to have to buy another one then, and if it turns out they can't handle actual cold weather, I may not even bother.

Also, when do brands start coming out with coats again? I'm trying to decide if I should wait, or just try to find something secondhand. Hoping to get something like pic related. I know it's only July, but I like to plan things ahead of time.

How's the quality on Bodyline and Taobao shoes?

>>9955222
I have that coat anon, and it's excellent. Just make sure you look for wool instead of polyester and you should be fine. You layer a lot in winter to keep warm anyway and hopefully you'll acclimate quickly. But I would definitely recommend the fur collars, it's so toasty and soft.

>>9955297
Thanks for the tip! Can I ask how cold the winters get where you live? I'm actually originally from Canada, but I'm still not looking forwards to dealing with the winter again. I'm kind of wary of Japanese brands' winter pieces because while I know they do get snow there sometimes, the temperatures definitely don't drop nearly that low.

On the topic of coats, I wonder why they're not more popular, especially because they can be so lovely. It might just be my comm, but I only know a couple girls with dedicated lolita coats. Everyone else seems to just wear random normie coats over their coords. Not sure if it's the price tag, or that they don't wear lolita often enough?

>>9955324
I'm from Michigan and I was able to comfortably wear that coat in -14F. I also had long sleeves and an undershirt on to keep warm. I know some girls will wear flannel bloomers as well. The coldest part of me was actually my feet and legs because I decided to wear otks with thick tights and brand boots are not warm. I need some flannel bloomers and longer gloves.

>>9955253

Bodyline shoes hurt like a bitch but last for a long time, so there's that

What should I do to make my calves narrower? They look fine from the side, but from the front view of them, they're oddly wide. Would general calves exercises work? They're pretty firm so it might just be muscle rather than fat
>is stupid jfash question bc legs are important in lolita

>>9955601
Induce cell autophagy, or try limit your water retention on days you know you'll be having full body photos taken

>>9955601
There won't be much you can do except botox or radiofrequency ablation if it's all muscle, if there is some fat there lose weight. Calf exercises will grow muscle.

>>9948689
>I bought a C listed dress from WW.
>Costed 60 bucks.
>Thought the lace was a bit torn, but I could fix it.
>Turned out to be like new.
This is my experience and what I hear most often. Kinda surprised to now hear so many people more negative. In my experiences stores like CC and WW are more on the positive/careful side when listen, but random Japanese people selling second hand is just as hit or miss as Western market.

>>9949495
Even if you sign in it'll come up sometimes if you browse TaoBao. It's almost like they try to prevent too much data being send to bots or so, or a ridiculous version of a DDOS protection. The longer I browse the worse it get's, but if I leave and come back later, it's all gone again.

>>9949863
These are quite common. Even many normie stores will stock things like this starting fall up to spring.

>>9949891
If it's fake, so could the marking be. Honestly, I don't expect knock-offs to be correctly marked.

>>9949909
sell
>lacemarket
>FB groups
>sell tread on /cgl/
buy
>sell places
>Yahoo auctions Japan
>Wunderwelt
>Closet Child
>Frill
>Mercari

>>9951327
>Don't look like a creep
>Don't act like a creep or a jerk
>Don't put your trans label anywhere. You're just a person wearing frilly dresses. If you feel the rest matters than that's a problem.
>Dress well
If you check the above and you'll be fine.

>>9951803
I honestly hate this picture because the white lace and not having a seam at the skirt makes it looks like their torso is insanely high and disproportioned.

>>9953578
Small poof like your picture is indeed still needing a petticoat. I also advice against western brands. 99% of them are shit quality. There are many Chinese and Japanese alternative fashion brands that make nice gothic clothes.

But really:
>i’m just trying to be fancy goth
sounds like you're not a goth but a hipster who want's to have a goth look. Then just don't. Don't act like you're part of a subculture you're not. There are already enough idiots who think gothic is just a fashion. Not to forget this hipster trends like witchy-gothic and pastelgoth, making all drama when told they are not a goth.

If you where a goth, I would expect you know where to buy clothes, or at least know some basics on it and have a more specified question with less obvious basic unknowledge.

>>9954526
The original is good actually. But don't buy from Milanoo, you'll end with cheap badly made knock-offs. Get it from the actual brand. This one is from Infanta.

>>9954550
It looks nice, but as other anon said, quality is hit or miss. If you can, find Chinese reviews on Weibo and photo reviews on TaoBao.

>>9955222
Unless you life in north europe brand coats are fine as long as they are wool. In north europe you might want to be more careful. Japanese clothes aren't made on weeks of minus 20 degrees C

Ok, im trying to find more shoes like this. Any tips, brands, ect to aid my search for footwear? Sanrio has a collection similar that i think is better, but they are expensive and hard to find especially the my melody pair. If you know a good place to get more like this please help. Thanks

>>9951803
Binder would be your best bet to be 100% flat, just don't wear it for too long, corsets push breasts up not flatten them down
I'm a 98cm F cup and wear binders, from my experience theyre pretty comfortable and take off a good 10-15 cms from bust

>>9954537
Besides all the already posted don't buy from Milanoo advice,

>sleeves look a little blah now that I really look at it

I am pretty sure this is a jsk not an an op, and the sleeves and collar your are looking at are a blouse. Please be aware of that, because often JSKs will be modeled with a matching blouse that is not what you are buying.

>>9955787
What binder do you have? I have one but it only takes off like 1 to 2 inches for me

>>9956061
Underworks econo high power, I'm considering getting a tri top eventually for more binding power but it lets me wear dresses with 88cm bust quite comfortably so it's fine for now. It also depends a lot on how you place your boobs in the binder, I pull mine as down as I can and to the sides for maximum binding, it looks very odd and unnatural as it is but it doesn't show at all once I layer clothes over it.

Is the Japanese AP site down or is it just me?

>>9956127
It's not just you, been down for me since yesterday.

>>9955753
YRU sometimes sells sneakers in fun pastel colours. If you sign up for e-mails from them, they send codes out pretty often for discounts of 40% and higher.

I bought pic related for 50% off earlier this year. They light up. I'm in fairy kei heaven.

If I were to sew this old Usakumya pattern from GLB, but mod the pattern to be a backpack, would it be considered a replica or is it fair game since the pattern was already (kind of) made public? I don't intend to make them in bulk and sell or anything like that, I just want to make one for myself to keep me satisfied until I can find the real deal.

>>9956249
No, it won't be considered a replica, just handmade, and since this was publicly released it's cool, as long as you aren't selling them you'll be fine

>>9953651
Romantic Gothic stands out for the mixture of different sources, look for second hand stores, handmade and Gothic shops near your area. The romantic Gothic is one of the styles that you can play more. Many times you can buy in normies stores but the accessories make the difference, not just the makeup.

Other shops you can look:
Videnoir
Somnia Romantica
Heavy Red
Kambriel

>>9956146
Thank you. Light up shoes that are pastel? Hnng.
Another question, how come I never see anyone wear jeans with casual fairy kei outfits? Or if it doesn't have a tutu its not actually fairy kei anyone even if you're casualizing it? It seems like every one I see is a bit too dressy to actually be called casual.

>>9956256
anymore even if***

I'm getting confused anons. I'm going for the cute oversized nanchatte look, but the sizing looks like they'd all be oversized when I compare to a Western size chart. I thought Asian sizes were smaller?

>>9956256
Just depends I think, fairy kei to me is about girly feminine clothing, and I think that pants are hard to look like ultra girly, I think to make pants work they would need to be like the ones in the picture even though the rest of her coord is bad.

>>9956261
It's made to be oversized, so it's going to be more like normal American sizing since 90 cm is about 34 inches and that's usually the bust for a small tight fitting garment here and that's the x-small here.

Not trying to hikack this thread but can someone please spare a minute to help me with something?

I’ve recently started going out with this tall Amazonian goddess (blond hair) and she’s into sports/fitness health the whole kitchen kaboodle.
Now my concern lies with her brother, we were watching tv yesterday when he turned and asked me what was w the guy in my?
I just couldn’t answer him because I’m not sure how I want this relationship but I’m hoping it could lead somewhere otherwise I I’m I’ll see if you want it to me and then go get some something it will help take you.

Anyone ever been in the same boat? I’m just too scared for them I to and I just don’t can’t get.
I really like her but I’m under stress from work and possibly moving countries so it might be cruel for a long distance, especially if there’s kids involved.

>>9956265
So if I wear a US size 4-6 for the oversized look I'd go for an M?

>>9956272
Yeah, M is probs your best bet

>>9956275
Thank you for your help kind anon!

>>9956269
>he turned and asked me what was w the guy in my
What??

>>9956263
I think blue jeans will work if they have lace, frill, any super cute girly detail really.

Anyone have reccs for a good, plain white cotton apron that can go with oldschool coords? I can't find any I like secondhand, and I don't know which taobao stores are good since I only ever shop secondhand brand.

Can green hair look good with Lolita?

>>9954526
>I can't tell the difference between good or bad in lolita fashion yet
>how can I tell besides it being a big brand
>Milanoo watermark
Anon, this post is so bad I can't tell if it's bait or not. I think you need to stop and learn about the fashion before jumping into it and making bad purchases like this.

Also, we're not here to spoonfeed you. Never make posts like this or >>9954550 again. If you have to ask questions like that, you're not ready to be here and apart of the fashion.

>>9954526
>I can't tell the difference between good or bad in lolita fashion yet
>how can I tell besides it being a big brand
>Milanoo watermark
Anon, this post is so bad I can't tell if it's bait or not.

>>9956296
Sure, I currently have green hair rn, it depends on the coord, if I feel like it clashes too much then I wear a wig.

>>9956292
I own this one by Akane Alois and find that it looks great with frumpier old school OPs that lean slightly towards country - think along the lines of Meta’s Anne of Green Gables. Afaik there are cheaper knockoff versions of this apron floating around on Aliexpress.

>>9956305
Thanks! My entire wardrobe is black, so green hair probably won't hurt too much, though it might look weird with classic.

>>9956347
This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you!

>>9956280
The guy what was the guy he asked him.
Anon couldn’t answer the door.

Stupid question, I usually wear a size 7 womens, would 7.5 be too big?

>>9956564
Really depends on the shoe, some are narrow and require you to size up a bit for a good fit. Half a size is generally not terrible and if it's uncomfortable you can use insoles to make it fit better.

>>9956296
No.

My local comm is small, and I'd like to start hosting meetups to keep it active. I have an idea of where to have them, but any advice on logistics would greatly be appreciated! e.g. How to encourage people to come, how to suggest a possible dress code, what to do if no one shows up lmao

>>9956635
Individually guilting people in to coming is most effective. Enforcing a dress code discourages people from coming, especially if it’s a small comm and has a bunch of newbie members. If you’re worried about nobody showing up, ensure that at least 1 friend is going. I’ve been to a meet before that the organiser didn’t even show up to and the venue was closed on that day, and the few of us that showed up just went shopping and out for a meal.
My question is does anyone have advice for carrying around a large amount of crap with them? At the moment I usually need 2-3 days clothes, toiletries, 3-4 medium sized books, large water bottle, usually a container of food, few balls of wool, plus other things. I can barely deal with this load when I’m not in lolita because it gets very heavy and doesn’t really fit in my bag/s but i do miss wearing the fashion so any advice is appreciated. I find that my current disorganisation is very hard on my clothes as well for some reason.

>>9956678
>guilting people
lmao what
Who wants to attend a meetup out of guilt? What does that even mean?

>>9956635
If your comm is really small and inactive, imo the best thing to do is to pick a meeting spot like a cafe or a cute patisserie, tell them you're going there on X date and Y time to have some tea and macarons and that they're all invited to come in their frills. That's it. Make it spontaneous so there's no endless debate on the time and date and mention that it's a lolita meetup, i.e. an occasion for them to wear their lolita out, without pushing the "dress code" matter too hard since it can scare newbies sometimes.
As for what to do if no one shows up, just keep in mind that this is a possibility and be okay with that. Make plans for what to do if that does happen, for example you can either walk around on your own or have some tea like you planned and go back home.
There's really not much to it. Make it casual and laid back, and don't make a big deal out of it.

sorry for being a literal retard, i've seen it a billion times before. What is the name of this dress (what it's trying to replica?)

>>9956933
Nameless Poem.

>>9956678
Why do you need 3 days of clothing?

Does anyone own Song of the Lark? Debating on buying the skirt because I kinda like the dreamy kitschy print, but not sure about the ita-potential and quality.

>>9956967
I don’t go home often.
>>9956686
Not really guilt but encourage people to go individually ie “I miss you let’s hang out you should come to the meet up, they feel guilty if they don’t go.

>>9956678
A suitcase

HOW DO I MAKE FRIENDS AAAAAHHHHH

>>9949483
I hear ya. I don't wear light colored normal socks so I don't notice stains or dirt but they still get pilling.
I noticed that my shoes are often the cause for staining. I think the style of the shoe has a big effect on pilling and stains, ie shoes with a dark lining or lining that starts to peel to reveal the adhesive, and I think heels would rub more around the ankle, or any shoe that allows your foot to move too much.
I've thought about cutting and then sticking a panty liner to protect my more precious socks. Seriously is there some kind of sock protector out there?

>>9957141
I wear those little "liner" socks over my socks and tights to prevent wear (and it usually makes it more comfortable as well, if you have shoes that rub or are a bit too loose, etc)

What happened to twinkle journey? when i first got into lolita it was metas holy grail dress, but it seems like it dropped a lot. I remember a replica was released, and there was a re-release, was that why?

does anyone have experience with these cheap aliexpress petticoats? what do they feel like irl? want to get one that I wouldn’t mind damaging for normie daily wear.

>>9957374

Seems to be a mix of things, not just one. 2010 is a long-ish while ago, and even some prints that were "big" in their day like Queen's Coach or Melty Chocolate are just kind of "meh" now. So one factor is simply time, the girls who were into it either got over it, or simply left the fashion and there's less people who even remember it used to be a big deal anymore.

Another contribution is the re-release was a special set, not a regular release -- which was pretty awesome for those that just wanted the print, but it had a cheaper price, so I think it did kind of muddle the pricing for the older regular releases because I've seen more than one occasion where people mix up the lucky pack and regular versions, even though the colour was red, which the special set didn't come in.

Third would be that Meta actually made a lot of the special sets -- I remember they restocked their online shop at least once, and the less popular colourways didn't sell out the day of release. And a year later the impulse buyers all dumped their hype buy, so for a little while it was possible to find for under 20k yen.

Contributing factor, even though it was re-released, the original was still pretty hard to find, especially if you wanted a red set. It was just easier to get a matched set of the newer special set versions, so I think eventually people just stopped trying for the original version, so demand for it also dropped (not that it made any easier to find a red set).

I think out of all things the replica barely made any impact, the fabric was just way different from the original so the replica always looked obvious.

>>9956249
Which GLB is this pattern from?

>>9957405
comfy or not, they'd deflate very quickly

>>9957405
How the fuck do you damage your petticoat

Has anyone used devilinspired.com? I'm concerned, since they haven't responded to my questions over contact form or insta...

>>9957497
thanks, I figured as much. it didn’t look like they were made out of netting to me, but seems like that could be the case. I might be better off looking for a pre-owned brand one then.

>>9957509
some asshole ripped mine. don’t want to make the mistake of wearing a brand new $70 petticoat to a large public event again, but would still like to wear lolita to shows occasionally.

>>9957470
Thanks for the history on that. I'm not complaining it's cheaper, I'm super excited to grab the new jsk, since i really like the cut in black.

What is metas holy grail dress now?

>>9957489
Vol 3 if I remember correctly!

I have to get fitted for contacts even if I have perfect eyesight and stuff, right?

How strechy are taobao tights? They don't list a size or anything and I'm worried they won't fit me. I'm not super fat though I have very thick thighs and a fat ass that I hate and I wouldn't want them to rip or not fit.

>>9957944

Meta's been doing the same thing as Baby with their recent releases, when it sells out too fast or does really well they tend to do an MTO (if it's sold out too fast), or they re-release it the following year. So a lot of prints tend to be hyped up one year and then kind of become "oh this again" by the following year (good for those looking for them, though).

Some of the specific wa releases in the kimono cuts seem to be highly coveted, but even then they're mostly worth their retail secondhand, not 2x or more like Twinkle Journey used to be.

>>9948361
Where/how can I find worn pieces in coordinates? I tried to find this Victpria Princess blouse in brown to know how well the shade of brown goes with other chocolates, Any idea or help?

How can I buy from Mercari Japan? Can't find much actual useful info online.

>>9958497
You should - for eye health. Especially base curve.

>>9958498
way stretchy

>>9958701
did you mean to say ap instaed of baby? you know baby is just doing the re-releases this year because of the anniversary right? it isn't always gonna be like this

>>9958752
there used to be worn threads on cgl but all the lolitas left and now there's just trolls

>>9959306
Use a shopping service like japonicamarket.

>>9959313

No, not exactly re-releases. Baby and Meta both do reservations. AP does not. And when a print sells out fast enough Baby and Meta do tend to announce a second round, third round, however many rounds as long as each round sells out fast enough. Each round has a later shipping date than the one before. Baby has a lower threshold, I've seen them do some reservations specifically for one colour and cut only, because that one specific colour/cut sold out way faster than everything else.

AP has no way to do this, because they make the dresses first and can only sell however many dresses are on hand. All three of them make re-releases and MTOs, but Baby and Meta in particular will announce a second, third round of reservations for whatever sold like hot cakes.

That's why some Baby or Meta prints can be gorgeous, popular, a hit for that year and yet be easy to find at a reasonable price -- because these are the prints a lot of girls bought in several rounds of reservations, so there is a lot more of them in circulation.

>>9957975
Thank you so much, anon - I just bought it! Can’t wait to make that apron and have my own scraggly Usakumya while I wait for the real one to show up one day.

I bought a jacket at a nice discount because the corset lacing is missing. Where is a good online shop to buy high quality ribbon if I decide I want to replace the lacing?

I've done a google search and found some shops but honestly I'd rather buy ribbon from a place recommended by gulls since I trust y'all more than my inexperienced self.

This pretty angelic bag is on sale for $71. I’m not crazy about the star motif, but I do Iove gold accessories. Another anon mentioned it had a cute little puckered anus design (kek). Buy or pass?

>>9960515
Not sure what you're trying to ask here. Don't buy things you're not crazy about?

>>9960557
I’m more or less asking if it’s worth to get even if it’s on sale. Like Oh for sure cause it’s rare/and what a sweet deal! Rather than just being like oh I like it. Is it worth adding it to my closest?

Does this mean it measures 70cm and stretches beyond that or that it stretches to a max of 70cm?

>>9960583
Idk do you think you will use it often??

I currently fit comfortably into both JetJ Size 1 dresses I own without stretching the fabric or anything but I'm very conscious of the fact that I'm almost at the maximum measurements and always worry whether size 1 will still fit. Also women in my family tend to gain weight as we get older. Should I buy Dragon-chan in size 1 or should I get size 2 just in case and so it's future-proof?

New Bread >>9960772