/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

all I want is a victorian maid café in my area ; w ;

>>9927270
>When shooting cosplayers, make sure you're holding a camera and not a rifle

>>9927283
I laughed so hard at that. As well as the
>Doctor Vendetta went all "Dramarmu, I've come to bargain!"
Great post OP.

Love the post OP!

>>9927279
All I want is to have all the conventions more equally spread throughout the year.

We all want something. Would be nice to go to abunai next year and get a hotel room at the con. I'm just not desperate enough to volunteer.

>>9927485
You should had bought more Abunaai condoms then. One lucky weeb managed to get his hand on the golden ticket which makes for a guaranteed hotel reservation.

>>9927551
If I'd use em, I would have.

>>9927577
Ah, stuck in a healthy monogamous relationship where both parties have been checked for STD's and opted for alternative birth control methods I see. Sucks to be you Anon, I'll be thinking king of you the next time I'm trying to figure out which side is supposed to roll down.

>>9927595
Nah I'm going to reach wizard status.

>>9927600
Once you do, you can at least conjure whatever creatures you like to do your bidding. Whether that's being your 'toy' or just making you coffee..

Tfw no SO that likes anime and F1.

>>9928051
but anon, why not watch Initial D instead of F1?

Since when is campzone hosting the cosplay world masters prelims?

>>9929015

Since they announced it, clearly

>>9929015
since Firstlook has been shit about international compos.

In the last topic of some kind of Animeconporn. Did i missed something? Sauce pls?

>>9929942
No it was just shitty bait and a boudoir shoot that didn't even take place at Animecon.
And this is me assuming you're not baiting. Again.

Winter please come back, these high room temperatures are ruining the overhangs on my prints!

Pierre proves that kissing enough ass leads somewhere, is this case, centerparcs.

>>9929989
I hated the way he tried to convince people to go to Viencon during Animecon. Each time I saw and heard him, he was only talking about the event. Very annoying..

>>9930051
Well I think that some organisations would love to have him promote their events/festivals.

>>9927485
>>9927551
>tfw I live in Veldhoven
This is why I hope Abunai never moves to a different venue

>>9930051
Maybe they should have locked him behind the viencon stand instead because every time I went by the stand the dude behind it wasn't pro-active.

>>9930080
He throws better PR around than Vien himself. But then again why promote your event if somebody does it for free.

>>9930368
Not really free anymore since he now got a free weekend at Cemterparcs for it.

>>9930051
Havent heard him about it. You ran into him that much? You stalking him?

>>9929989
He did this more for himself right? To get alot of people to this event. He wants a colossalcon in the Netherlands.

>>9930069
I'm in this exact same boat, it's 15mins by bicycle for me. I hope it'll never change.
Also I don't think it's that cramped...

>Anon: "Who are some lesser known photographers? I'm tired of having shots in the same styles all the time"

Besides the few, lets say dedicated, photographer focused on cosplay it just felt during Animecon there were less of them somehow in my opinion or rather less noticeable.

I have a feeling i see a rise of cosplayers now just buying some basis camera, making photos of others which is cool but also i see a rise the last 6 months of the.. lets say.. your creepy 40+ year old uncle with his livingroom studio type of photograper popping up. With the ;) face, overexcited reaction to a horrible photo, 'leuk pakje' or 'geweldig meid' and that horrible ( i am photographer ) type of "aesthetic" profile picture.

They just seem to flood conventions and cosplayNL together with cosplay photoshoot nederland FB page.

>>9930668
Omg I'm suddenly reminded of that old guy that was taking photos of smoke-anon without asking and just creepily kept circling around before finally wandered of. Pretty sure I got captured too but still.

Why are people like this? You can just ask and will get a better picture in return..

>>9930742

I really enjoy candid shots desu so I just take pictures at random moments. Everyone takes posed photographs, they look very stale. Random moments look a lot more lively.

A few photographers took pictures of me without my consent while shooting with someone else :( why can't they just ask?

>>9930799
I get candid shots can capture raw moments and emotions and I can definitely appreciate those types of shots. However in the case of these mid-life crisis old farts they don't wait for that perfect raw moment to capture. Instead the pictures they take are often either quickly taken from a distance, or while a cosplayer was already shooting with someone else. Afterwards they'll just silently walk away and the cosplayers in question never gets to see the shots taken or even know they were shot to begin with. To me that's just plain rude and goes against cosplay etiquette.
Besides if you're proud of a candid shot you took you should always approach your subject and let them know. Hell, odds are they'll realy like the picture themselves and definitely would want a copy. Pretty much says enough about the quality of their shots if you ask me.

>>9930821

Yeah I totally agree, those sound like really awful pictures quality-wise.

I am not very good and I don't consider my shots good enough to show and so on though, so I just take them so I can look at all the cosplayers later and admire their work. And to get better so I can eventually do photography semi-professionaly though. Half the time I end up using my phone still, not a proper camera. You just don't get the right emotions or funny moments or the correct angles at times when you pose. And I don't want to badger a cosplayer saying "Oh strike this and that pose" because it is a busy con and they have better things to do than spend 10 minutes posing for some random guy with his iphone.

>>9927270
Acon was terribly organised. They made everyone pay 14 euros for the parking lot when the gate was actually wide open. The staff didn't even know who did what so many people ended up waiting and wasting precious time for something else they didn't actually need. Acon was, and will probably always will be a mess if nothing happens. They honestly need to get their shit together.

>>9930828
I used to shoot everything on a basic point and shoot camera so I get where you're coming from. It always feels rather intimidating to ask people for a few shots when you have all those people wielding DSLR's and mierorless cameras surrounding you. I didn't upgrade to a DSLR myself until two months ago after I started to really started to notice the limitations of my camera. Acon was the first time I really took it out in public like that and honestly I enjoyed every moment of it.

And there's nothing wrong with using your phone Anon. There are plenty of third party apps that offer more precise control and with the Camera2 API many phone models can shoot in raw even when not supported by the official camera app. Besides, in the end the best camera is the one you have on you anyway.

>>9930841
I'm honestly wondering what you are talking about. To me, it is always the best run convention of the year, especially with all the stuff you can do.

As for the parking, I think that is actually the World Forum who manages that?

>>9930841
>The staff didn't even know who did what so many people ended up waiting and wasting precious time for something else they didn't actually need.
Care to elaborate?

>>9930841
Animecon is the best run anime convention. Even the other events say that. The parkinglot has to do with the revenue not animecon.

>>9930876
*venue not revenue as in World Forum.

>>9930854
>I'm honestly wondering what you are talking about. To me, it is always the best run convention of the year, especially with all the stuff you can do.
>As for the parking, I think that is actually the World Forum who manages that?

For a regular visitor, l can imagine that it feels like it's a well run convention. However, behind the scenes it's chaotic, and the staff don't always know who runs what, and stuff gets mixed up. This is what wastes people's time. It took them close to an hour to tell us where we should get our parking tickets, and even THEN it was a waste, as the gates were wide open.

Also l hear many events and other dealers and businesses complain about stuff they do wrong. For beginners, the timetables are a mess. The dates and timelines don't add up. Also the opening times of the dealer room for example was printed wrong on every person's badge, and this caused some trouble for some dealers and events. I should also mention that the map was incorrect and many things were located differently than shown on that map. Many people were misdirected, myself included. These are simple mistakes that should be easily avoided.

All in all l had some fun, don't get me wrong. But l will never say it is a well run convention, because it isn't. It's perfectly flawed at most.

>>9930883
So I hear they have a new recruit!
Of you can do it better you can sign up at : Gopherplanning@animecon(.)nl
Put your money where your mouth is Anon.

>>9930821
Some don’t even bother doing it from a distance. They just stand next to the photographer, who did politely asked you if they can make a few shots, or these people even stand in front of them. This one guy at animecon did this many times and I just hid my face and turned away from him so he would walk away and let “my” photographer continue.

>>9930883
Well, tell me which convention has better planning. Ok maybe Elfia. Rest of the events... DCC is terrible, event the community managers say that. ABunai well everyone knows this.. SO tomo where dealers pay overpriced spots. In that case no event is well run.

>>9930883
It's not a waste, even if the gates are open. You still have to pay, so the tickets are well justified. Just because you don't get checked doesn't mean things are free you know? For example: don't know how many times I don't get checked during a train ride, still have to pay for it! Such surprise!

>>9930890
this

>>9930889
So... tell me what part from DCC planning is terrible since everything is well organised behind the scenes for crew tho.

>>9930742
Because alot of those old people who think because they have got a studio, they automaticaly know or think how cosplay photography work.

It is something completely different. Even if you do events or concerts as your job in regards of taking photos, conventions here dont work the same way. You cant just take photos whenever you want or bump in when others are shooting.

It is even in the houserules of conventions that you cant take photos without permission. And then they dont know how to work their lighting. The worst are those who ( who arent used to cosplay photograhy ) walk around with a flash on top of their camera. Ever seen those results with the shiny wigs. Good luck wanting to share such a result.

Worst part is when people have a discussion they argue with the basis rules or what should be correct according to them. They are just there to take photos of girls in "sexy en leuke pakjes". Maybe 1 or 2 in the herd of old and horny DSLR guys actually understand cosplay more than your parents.

Am I still on time for the mindless convention bashing?

>>9930946
I am sorry, you are too late.

>>9930941
Ok so alot went better last edition compared to before... but still.
The sound at the main stage was terrible these last 2 editions the recent one even. Hype creations does a good job, but without them there isnt much cosplay about DCC except for invited cospkaygroups where are they supporting geek/nerdom. Dealerrooms I guess but they had double bookings last year. But ok that maybe went more smooth this year. First year people didnt even have electricity, I was there. DCC thinks only about famous people to invite and dealers to sell spots, only recently started catering the geek community (their real market). Its a bit sad. The community loved the
decoration of the winter edition 2 yrs ago. They havent paid any attention to people giving feedback on wanting that back. DCC is starting to become colder in design spaces with decoration. And the community fears it would become just like German Comicons events in the Netherlands AKA Amsterdam and Rotterdam Comicon. They should get more into the geek/nerd /cosplay community. so allright some things went better this year. But alot is still terrible. Also dont lie, some things still dont run smoothly behind the scenes.

>>9930799
I get those. I like those too. But in this case it looked more like old guys filling up their fap-folder.

>>9930986
I see that this discussion is starting to compare an event that's mainly a dealer hall with some extras and a competition (DCC) to a festival that has loads of events, competitions, concerts and where the dealer hall is a minimum part of the con.

It's a bit hard to compare these

Difference between DCC and Animecon/Abunai, is that DCC has a whole team behind it that does it for their regular dayjob and to make money. Animecon/Abunai are all done by volunteers, that work past their own regular dayjobs.

>>9930742
>>9930799
Trust me this was way different hah. Also a good photographer knows how to talk to his/her model to get a good genuine shot.
>>9930815
I actually had a couple photographers like that aswell, but atleast 9 in 10 asked me and the photographer if it was ok.
In general the attitude in regards to photography on Animecon (outside atleast) was very pleasant.

>>9930986
sound has always been terrible in the Jaarbeurs you can't change that unless you have a theater like Animecon does. I did find that they should have highlighted the cosplay area more. It was stuffed away in a dark corner and little to nothing was done to make the dark booths and bare tables a bit more appealing.

>>9930941
The cosplay competition organisation's sucks. You sign up, don't hear for ages and suddenly people at random AR not allowed to compete while others do. Luckily I was allowed. Or, well, that luck holds for about 20 seconds.
Slow replies on mails, never really anything clear.
The actors are announced, but you are never sure if they will really come.
And the rest is an overcrowded dealer room with rude security.

>>9931018
Wasnt like that these last 2 compos, Hype creations now runs it snoothly. Or are u referring to the cosplay catwalk?

>>9930742

If you cosplay, your picture will be taken. There is no reason for me to ask. And if you wear skimpy outfits, I will definitely take your picture because why else are you dressing so scantily?

If I don't publish pics I take without asking, I am doing nothing wrong and am not violating portretrecht.

>>9931127
Legally speaking there's nothing wrong, socially speaking however it doesn't make one less of an asshole for doing so.

>>9930888
Had the same happen to me, but in my case the photographer asked him to leave because he was in her way and didn't have my permission. The guy didn't exactly appreciate it.

>>9931127
Congrats on being a piece of shit!

>>9931128

Everyone is an asshole in some way or another anyway. The whole permission system is ridiculous. I am in the general whatsapp group for sharing con creepshots and there are over 300 members. There is no way not to get creepshotted and shared unless you stop dressing skimpy.

>>9931127

It's a crime under Dutch law in closed venues (cons). Also fuck you.

>>9931138
>general whatsapp group for sharing con creepshots
And of course that's a thing.

>>9931138
imagine being this much of a degenerate incel lmao

>>9931169

I really do not understand what the problem is. If someone is walking around with her T&A hanging out in revealing outfits, the whole point is to draw the eyes of guys to it. Of course people want to take pictures, it's a compliment. Constantly going up and asking "C- C- Can I take your picture beautiful lady?~" is retarded, just take the pic right away and move on. Permission is given because of the cosplay.

>>9931097
Nope, that was this year. And I am not the only one who had issues.
You must have had your head in the sand if you missed the complaints online about people being stopped from entering and others who signed up later did get in, for the exact same competition.

Sorry, but you really need to clean up your act. It just sucked.

>>9931189
Well, you can always try this neat little thing called 'being a decent human being' but I suppose that is too much to expect from you

>>9931189
Did you just seriously used a variation of the dressed like a slut argument? And you don't see what is wrong with that? Please, don't get children, I fear for their upbringing. Then again, with that attitude, I'm sure that won't happen.

>>9931209

Oh please, you try to pretend that this is not what these girls dress up for but the entire reason they are dressed so revealingly is so that they can accumulate more orbiters and have guys fawn over them.

>>9931127
A 'portrait' is the case when someone is shown recognizable. If the portrait of the person portrayed is made unrecognizable, but the identity of that person can be seen from other aspects of the image, there may still be a portrait in the sense of copyright. A cosplay fits that aspect because it can and might be linked to a person.

Having said that, the animecon houserules state that you are not allowed to take a portrait without consent of that person on the festival grounds.

So if you want to be a dick, then you are no longer a guest for staff and security and they will kick you out with a (perma)ban.

>>9931138
Sure I'll take the bait, I would beat your fucking ass if you ever try to do that shit to me or my friends.

>>9931283

You love it and so do your friends. I dated a girl once who collected orbiters. She insisted her cosplay was only for herself and males wouldn't even like it. However every time we spoke she had a new story about a new orbiter who took her friendliness the wrong way. She took joy in trying to get a reaction from me about how she did nothing wrong and men just flocked to her.

The only reason I can imagine they don't like getting creepshotted is because they don't get the pay or the specific attention they so crave.

>>9931297
I'm pretty sure you were just one of the orbiters yourself Anon.

>>9931302

I met her at a faerie event and she found out my contact information after I was the only guy in my group who didn't ask her for a photo after meeting her.

>>9931283

Oh no we have an internet tough guy over here.

Don't worry I don't want to creepshot your bulge.

>>9931189
>Imagine thinking that people dress for your views rather than enjoying the character
>Imagine thinking that this is normal
lmao are you a retarded incel?

Eh some do it for attention, the ones that are hungry for pictures of them, have patreon lewds, jump on every bandwagon. But people don't speak out about it because positivity guys!

>>9931315

Imagine being in such denial that you can't admit you love the attention.

Cosplay/Lolita whores are headcases.

>>9931321
If I wanted attention, I'd bring in another one of my armours with fancy shit, because that gets me more attention than skimpy cosplay. But guess what, some people just cosplay because they like a series or character.

>>9931321
You're disgusting, just stay home and don't bother anyone ever again please.

>>9931325

I'm sorry that getting slapped in the cheek by reality is this difficult for you. I'm sure you have plenty of orbiters you can cry to to make you feel better about yourself.

For fucks sake, can you people please stop taking this obvious bait?

>>9931330

They can't ignore it because it's striking a chord. Isn't that obvious?

Creepy behavior like this is a way to get banned from the better conventions.

>>9931363
We're all anon, anon. Can't ban when you don't know who it is.

>>9931505
Yet you can be banned at the event itself. If you behave like a leach and get a few complaints against you, the event will most likely kick you out. And your name will be known to all, as the people voicing the complaints will most likely not keep silent.

I love how people here really think MGC is owned by Tomo. Tomomark reallly just fixed the location for them, thats all. 4chan is really the best place to find rumors that ring truth.

>>9931816
OH, hi Mark. Here, we gave you attention. Bye now.

>>9931816
Again, not that surprising when a dead con suddenly gets resurrected at one Tomo's venues and Tomo's name slapped onto the site. In fact it's not just /cgl/ who thought this, many more people on the convention scene drew the same conclusion.

>>9931816
I am loving this and I assume you have autism.

>>9931793

Oh please, only sad autists get caught taking pictures. It is incredibly simple to take pics without someone noticing.

Heck I've taken a picture or two of random people I shared a hotel room with as they were sleeping. Those forum rooming threads are perfect since half the time they're just happy to have someone to split the cost with even if it is a stranger.

>>9931867
Please don't be bathrobe gull from crowne plaza.

>>9931189
Incels say the darnest things.

>>9931867
Implying incel behavior is different from sad autism.

I like bait as much as the next person, but come on. This person is clearly baiting with these remarks.

Only a sad person who is either single or has found a sad "O no, i was bullied and even uglier then those bullied people who also cosplay" partner would type and/or act like this.

Cant change pathetic people like that. best to move along and complain more about general things.

>>9931321
>>9931328
lol this anon is some kek Eliot Rodgers persona. Bet you also claim you took the red pill.

>>9930051
Hate is sucha strong word. Thats pretty strange actually. I could understand annoyed. But that means you dislike viencon promotion for a reason. You were against this con from the start or you believe his promotion is working against the con. or ofxc you dislike him. Either way his persistence and consistenslce has paid off. Whether this is because so many people seen his spam and know him? He is a nice guy btw, I guess those couple of people against him are either jealous or they dont actually know him... I dont know. Noone is actually stating why you dislike his promotion. But I guess people just came to bitch about it.

>>9931363
Better even, people get fired from their jobs for such behaviour at a con.

>>9931995
He is a nice guy, but the promotion really was obnoxious. It's nice of him to promote it, but he went a bit overboard with it. In the end, they did have to cancel the original plan, so I wont give him too much credit.
It isnt his responsibility but Viencon shouldve done as much obnoxious promoting like he did. They wouldve done much better.

>>9932033
How was it obnoxious? Animecon and Tomo do more promotion. The meme post was obnoxious? I dont get it.

>>9932033
Viencon would probably have had less people without him desu so the reason stating they had to cancel doesn't weigh any merit.

>>9931816
And still, nobody cares. Bye.

>>9932046
Ok suit yourselves kids.. X》

>>9932058
Thanks, xoxo.

>>9931995
>>9932040

Pierre is a friend of mine and he really is a good guy.

But hating how he promoted has nothing to do with jealousy or not knowing him.

Personally I wouldn't use the word hate, but it was/is annoying. Because unlike with ads, you can't use adblock or the "not interested in this ad" button on real people. And sometimes you just want to chat with a friend, without having the feeling you have to defend yourself for not wanting to go somewhere.
I know it isn't his intention, like I said, he's a sweet guy who doesn't want people to feel uncomfortable, but that doesn't mean people couldn't feel discomfort. Even if they made it immediately clear they weren't interested.

Also, yeah that meme was in particular irritating. I hide that fucking thing because I got tired of seeing it on my timeline all the time. And I usually never hide things. Except Tomo ads.

But good for you, you didn't find it annoying. Doesn't mean other people can't get annoyed by it.

>>9932108
There are like 3 dots top right corner. click that and choose hide post. And then live your life on glorious facebook without the Pierre Meme. This works for any post on facebook. Yes you can hide a specific post without blocking one person. In this case Pierre. So the thing was, you were a facebook noob. Discussion can end now. spread the wprd to people who are also annoyed as you say.

>>9932135
>There are like 3 dots top right corner. click that and choose hide post.

>I hide that fucking thing because I got tired of seeing it on my timeline all the time. And I usually never hide things.

>>9932142
Then why complain? You arent making sense...

>>9932147
>Because unlike with ads, you can't use adblock or the "not interested in this ad" button on real people.

>>9932147

Also:
>How was it obnoxious? Animecon and Tomo do more promotion. The meme post was obnoxious? I dont get it.

You asked the question, I explained.

>>9932152
You can hide the post specifically. Your talking nonsense Just like an ad you can hide it. You can also hide a person post on their page. You can hide everything. You dont make sense.

>>9932154
Are you saying if it was Viencon who was posting you wouldnt mind it?

>>9932157
>That same stupid meme gets spammed
>Have to hide that fucking face everywhere
>Hurr y u no press hide?
Here's an idea, stop taking everything so personal. This is the "Viencon Gets Feedback" saga all over again!

>>9932163
And honestly If I look back its not spammed that much. Maybe this week but there is like a months between bumps. No there is another reason. But lets leave it at this....

>>9932157
>>9932158

I'm not sure if you're a troll or really bad at reading:
But you're implying things nobody said.

And that I can mude converststions that happen in real life with digital functions.

>Guy uses his own picture to market a convention named after its organiser
>Gets upset when people complain about said marketing
>Actually believes the only reason someone might not like it is because someone doesn't like him
What is this, Hyper Inflated Ego's: The Con?

>>9932170
Nice name. What will be the entrance price?

>>9932170
Yet one of those persons claims to be his friend... ouch

>>9932173
Right, because friends totally aren't allowed to disagree with something a friend does...

>>9932174
They talk to him, not **post on 4chan about it.

>>9932174
Ignore it, it's a troll.

>>9932180
Well in that case you could say the troll... Got trolled.

>>9932178
>Asks why some people finds it annoying
>someone explains
>YOU'RE COMPLAINING

Pierre already knows how I think about it and respects it.


Let's all know ignore this troll

>>9932184
I hope thats true.

>>9932183
HA!

>>9932170
Well people hating his face. HMC/dcd BBQ evwnt put his face in the background. Talking about trolls, isnt his post started as a troll. Oh wow guess its working. Haha

ageplay bitches be imploding

So how's El Mundo?

>>9933269

You mean lolita's? What is the drama in that group this time?

>>9934050
Old mods were kicked out and decided to start a dumpsterfire on their way out

>>9934114
Kicked out? What happened?

>>9934031
I'm going there tomorrow. Anyone else going?

>>9934050
>>9934114
>>9934116

From what I get. The post against ghost member got closed after a week (got closed on 1 juli) instead of 1 Augustus without notice.
Because of that a lot of people who hadn't had the chance to respond got removed. The groep went from 500 to 150+

Two mods didn't agree with it and stept-up on mod position (although it's probably not the only reason).

>>9934361
stepping up means the opposite of what it does in dutch by the way

>>9934421
You should spend a bit more time learning english..

>>9931324
As a girl i just want to say that i agree with them, maybe you enjoy a character but dressing provoking is still dressing provoking. You wanted to walk around with all that showing. You slutty girls really just gotta stop acting dumb and admit it. You could have cosplayed a lot of other characters. their personality doesn't even show when you dress up, all you see are the clothes.

>>9934421
I assume >>9934421 meant to say the mods resigned, or 'stapten op'. To step up (to the plate) means to do the opposite: to take part in.
I assume that's what they meant, if that's the wrong assumptions then that's fine. Doesn't have anything to do with my grasp of the English language

>>9934474
Now, now, that troll attempt was just poor

>>9934820
Nayrt but I honestly agree. Just because a character wear it, doesn't make you dress less as a slut. And you know slutty dressed people get certain attention. Either deal with that kind of attention or decide to cosplay someone else. No rule says you have to cosplay all your favourite characters after all. No harm in liking something but not wanting to wear it on your body, especially with very revealing stuff.

>>9934970
I wouldn't mind people doing more revealing stuff accurately, but it still feels a bit off to see someone in bikini in february. Also, when private parts slip out occasionally, you should probably reconsider if you want to wear this in public.

>>9935076
I don't mind people doing it, but I do think you can expect a reaction and shouldn't wear it if you don't want said reaction. It might be a costume, but it's still your body you're showing. That doesn't go away because a drawn person wore it.

>>9934031
The location is perfect, but the organisation is terrible

>>9932170
Pierre never got upset over such a thing as far as I know.

>>9934361
I'm not in the lolita comm, but ew man, OCD spergs like that would make me give the finger to an fb group too.

>>9934474
>>9934970
>>9935087
It's fine to check out someone sexy. I check out men all the time. But, sexual harassment is not OK and never justified. "Kijken doe je met je ogen." basically. Not by groping, catcalling, or taking inappropriate pictures. Counts for any gender btw. I would never grope, catcall, or take inappropriate pictures of a guy, even if he was the hottest thing ever with a 10/10 face, god tier abbs/arms/legs, and a nice ass. IF I wanted to take a picture with him, I'd just politely ask for one. It's that simple.

Why did they delete the farewell post?

>>9935237
What farewell post? Also Anon, if you are replying to someone it really helps to click on their post number first to add the >>postnumber. That way people know what it is you are replying to rather than having to guess.

>>9934421
Yeah I know. But it was late, I was tired and had a black out on the words resign and quit. It was just the firts thing that came in my mind and at that time I really didn't gave a shit about how dunglish it sounded.

>>9934970
>>9935076
I don't mind revealing cosplays if they're accurate either. But to imply that I choose those characters for the attention is just plain wrong. I choose them for a variety of reasons. For me, it was mainly to switch up my usual portfolio. I'm not having any revealing cosplays in my lineup for a few years now.

I guess there are people who do indeed do this for a certain kind of attention, but you can't just lump all of them together in one attention-seeking group.

>>9935235
I never said you could just go harass them? I said you can expect a certain reaction, which is whatever is appropriate for checking out someone sexy. The original comment also didn't mention harassment, it said they where asking for attention.

>>9935311
I don't think the attention is main reason for everyone, but it should be expected and anyone who dresses like that at one point decided it was a good idea, knowing the kind of attention it would draw. Even when not primary reason you still continously decided to draw such attention to yourself. Which is fine. But you gotta be really stupid to act like it's unexpected, so I hate it when people complain about it (again, not talking harassment, which is complain worthy). If you're too stupid to realise dressing in a revealing costume draws that kind of attention you really have some problems imho.

>>9934361
I don't get the big deal. They messed up, just rejoin? It's not that hard.

>>9934116
The old mods were trying to cling to their position, new mods tried to do an overhaul, old mods started to bitch. Idk the deets but the new mods are dealing with the J problem and did a ghost member/creep deletion, even if it went out of hand. In all my years in this community I haven't seen anything like that from the old mods so...

>>9930945
These people don't have a studio, they have a spare room in their house they take pictures in.

I can't think of one photographer in the cosplay world who would have a chance as a real, working photographer, but they're okay for the scene they're in. The guys you refer to are terrible photographers who's only quality control is showing it to their family who say:"OH MY GOD THAT'S SO GOOD!"

>>9931306
r/thathappened

>>9935444
Out of hand... They never explicitly stated the consequences of not filling out the police inquiry form, then they pushed the deadline by a entire month and then they took over a week to acknowledge that they deleted people that shouldn't have been. And to top all off they never apologised for any of it.

>>9935426
But you're agreeing with an anon that took inappropriate pictures at a convention, silly.

Anyway, I think people should just cosplay their favorite characters without getting harassed for it. Dutch anime conventions aren't like Comiket where it's socially accepted to just stand in line and creep around some cosplayer without communication.

>>9935426
Oh I'm aware of that, but it's like >>9935484 says. I don't really mind it that much, but it'd just be nice if people ask for pics rather than just... circle around like a vulture.

Just a reminder. If a venue says you will have dance the macarena before you are allowed to take a picture, you will have to do that, of face the consequences the event has attached to it.

Many people think that it is just the law they need to abide to, but that is not so. An event can press charges for breaching the rules of the event.

Practically, they rarely do since there are many small breaches of the rules, from littering to small fights. However, if you do break the rules, they can press charges. For instance, if the event decides you are not allowed to take any picture, you better not do it. No matter how many portrait rights you think you have, the event decides.
Therefore, if the event decides that creepshots are not allowed, and define them clearly, it can cost you a lot of money.

So no prizes for Netherlands in ECG. Next international compo is Yamato. Will we deliver?

>>9936432
>An event can press charges for breaching the rules of the event.

You are delusional, stop making shit up. At worst, an event can blacklist you and deny you entry. They can't press charges.

>>9936432

What >>9936906 says. And event cant press charges unless it is a criminal offense. The only thing it can do with houserules is to let security or others remove a person, if this person doesnt leave on request, use force to remove them.

Only if this somehow goes bad they can call police for help but pressing charges. Nope.

>>9936906
Events can do a lot more than just remove you. I'll be using a few Dutch terms to make it absolutely clear. I'll still take a few shortcuts here and there, but it goes somewhat like this.

They can use Article 6:91 if there is an actual fine for something described.

Secondly, an event can always hand you over or report you to the police for crimes committed on their premises. Most common one would think of is theft, but threats and vandalism are quite common as well.

In this case that we are discussing it is "smaad", as private parts are being published in a WhatsApp group, which counts as publication.

Also look at Article 21 of the "Auteurswet."
Article 261 of the "Wetboek van Strafrecht".

Depending on the case, if the crime has a larger influence because people don't feel safe anymore, they could go for a civil lawsuit for "reputatieschade" and/or "misgelopen inkomsten."

>>9936968
not supportive of breaking houserules in general but none of those 'overtredingen' is for specifically breaking a certain house rule though.

>>9936968

You are absolutely insane. Posting pictures of someone in a public event is not smaad. It is also not theft or vandalism if you take pictures without asking first. The article you cited only applies if the initial house rules have you agree to a fine beforehand. Which no con does.

You might think you spent a bit of time googling Dutch law but I can assure you, there is nothing wrong with taking pictures without asking first. And the only thing a convention can do is deny you entry.

And so, Shoobiecosplay got caught pretending they made something when it was actually from AliExpress again and deleted their Instagram account.
Hot off the press....again.

>>9937075
that latex corvo mask they had at animecon was some hilarious halloween stuff

>>9937075
About Shoobie, I was sick and tired of all the gossip around him. Its done now, hes gone, his actions do not need any further attention than I gave it, because I horribly overdid it anyways.

Long story short, he kept pretending to have/make cosplays he either did not have or lied about where he got the cosplay from (often bought) Something he did for years(and even for competitions like ECG), instead of people calling him out there was only backhand gossip.

Ok so thats done, next.

>>9937054
Sorry, it depends where and how the pictures were taken, just as what was taken.

You confuse a public event with public space. A convention or expo is a public event held on private property. It is therefore that they can set house rules.

You also deliberately twist my words. I mention common crimes, not that these are those listed. What I do say, is that taking compromising photo's of a person on private property and publishing them can make you fall under the articles I provided before.

Of course, now you want example.
These type of cases can be compared to the case of the Nieuwe Revu in 1996, where they published pictures of a sex party without the person's permission.

I am talking about the type of situations and pictures described at >>9931138, the situations that creepy anon lives for.

>>9937214
>You confuse a public event with public space. A convention or expo is a public event held on private property. It is therefore that they can set house rules.

Correct. These rules only apply to that particular event. Breaking house rules does not equate to breaking national law. Taking someone to court means that the person you are taking to court has, in your mind, broken national law.

Furthermore, your example of a sex party is ridiculous. If skimpy cosplay equates to a sex party in your mind in terms of public embarrassment, then I don't know what is wrong with you.

But go ahead, sue the people taking candid photographs, see how it goes.

>>9937258
Now you are being deliberately dense and show significant reading and comprehension issues.

I clearly state in my last sentence what cases I am talking about. Nobody is talking about sueing someone over a simple candid picture.

>>9937258

You do realize taking this to court actually can work, if you have enough proof, thus a convention reporting or you reporting him to a con.

There are differences between dutch law and your own set of house rules, but there are enough laws about 'smaad' etc. that depends on a person, lawyer and/or judge if the situation and dutch law can be applied to one another. People think every law has a black and white setting but enough area's are grey which let these type cases go to court. A good lawyer can make it a public case if others would like to voice their support which can stenghten one's case. Everyone knows this. Just get some uproar on social media, plugs in some coverage through #boos (towards convention so they need to speak up), GeenStijl or some other NPO/TV program and you are set. It is all about knowing how to play a public.

>>9937806
>>9937814

>Posting a picture in a private whatsapp group gets you sued

>>9937864
>actually thinking Whatsapp is private.

You may want to read Whatsapp's terms and conditions.

>>9937879

You must have autism if this is the conclusion you came to.

I'm looking for a cgl gf, preferably Dutch and based near Leiden. Add me on discord: Shadow#3568

tfw the only good post in the past few days was Shadow asking for a girlfriend.

>>9937864
Actually, yes. Unless it contains significant news value, below applies.
Taking a (sexually) compromising picture without permission and spread it is always a crime, no matter if it is one person or multiple.

Taking a compromising picture with permission and spread it without permission to one person with clear instructions to keep it to him/herself, weirdly enough, is not a crime.

Taking a compromising picture with or without permission and spread it without permission to multiple people is, indeed, a crime.

Note, at the moment there a law in the making which defines it more clearly (at the moment, the proposal is under review since it is incomplete, and in many cases would lower the maximum punishment from 4 to 2 years). This law should be in effect by early 2019.

Keep in mind, that at conventions, there are many minors. Even having sexually compromising materials of a minor falls in a different category, and that is a road that should not have to be explained.

>>9937994
>Taking a compromising picture with permission and spread it without permission to one person with clear instructions to keep it to him/herself, weirdly enough, is not a crime.

Oh good, no problem with taking upskirts then. If there even was a risk of being 'caught'.

>>9938005
Only if the person is a willing participant. Otherwise, there are many problems.
And, again, spreading it in a private whatsapp group is counted as publication.

Too bad it takes me this many posts to have to explain law to you.

>>9937959
Are you interested anon~~

>>9938071
Imagine if this saga actually ended with Shadow getting a girlfriend. what a wonderful world that would be.

>>9938014
I'm pretty sure Anon is just baiting you by playing dumb.

>>9936906
Yes they can. One convention has the following "Disruption of public order, safety and morals." this is pretty solid and reason for removal and possible (perma) ban in the future.

Refusal to be removed and/or even resisting (both verbal and physical) to removal is a serious matter, police will get involved because you are tresspassing (Article 138). And that is a crime for wich charges can be pressed.

>>9937864
Creep anon getting uncomfortable knowing that he committed a criminal offense which he could get sued for. Kek.

>>9937864
saw a zoophile whatsapp group getting arrested so yea, 'private' whatsapp doesn't give you a free pass for shit.

>>9938071
I don't live in Leiden, I'm sorry.

>>9938089
>Refusal to be removed

Like I said, the event can deny you entry. They cannot simply arrest you, but if you force your way in then yes the police will come, obviously.

>>9938106
>>9938138
These pictures do not break the law lmao. You must be absolutely delusional, here is your (you), I'll be at home checking out the new pics I took at El Mundo.

>>9937075
They/he ? Pretty sure the person I talked to has a vagina. But now I know why I didn't get an answer to my questions, like how the sword was made...

>>9938278
They claim to be trans these days. Ftm so... 'he' I guess. But considering all other lies I'll go with 'they'.

>>9938269
I'm >>9938106, but not >>9938138, nor any of the other anons. Just keep calling us delusional and deny stuff yourself.

>>9937922
I haven't participated in the whole convo.

Just pointing out that prived Whatsapps don't exist.

>>9938269
It's funny how you cling to straws. I am really sure bestiality Is illegal. But if that floats....

>>9938269
Why not just get a girlfriend and get to look at titties whenever you want. This seems like a ton of effort for very little payoff.

>>9936968
My sides
Omg I needed a good laugh.

Actual law fag here.
If you’re in a public place all betts are off.
No one made you dress up in a certain way, you voluntarily dressed like that in public, so “decimation of character” is no longer on the table.
And AW. ART 21.
This is only when someone was hired and paid for a photo shoot and wants to make private pics public, also does not work in public places. Due to the fact that it would limit photographers to any one owning a car building etc
(For good international reference the case of the monkey that made a selfie, the monkey made the photo so it holds the rights)
> international law > national law> regional/province law.
> when reffering yo laws at least do it like you fucking should
Also a WhatsApp group is being shared in a private group and not public, so shame decimation of character and loss of revenue is not possible to be sued over.
Also they can’t “sue” or “press charges” on anyone over breaking house rules, they can kick you out but that’s it at most, seeing no actual laws set by a court are broken, you have no legal right to “sue” and can only press charges when laws are broken.
Seriously stop googling laws to fit your narrative, cause you have no idea on how to actually use jurisprudence, or how laws are meant to be used or read.
(And if you have ANY sort of degree in law, sue your school cause they let a moron graduate, you’re like the the kid that heard mommy and daddy use a fancy word and can’t keep themselves from repeating it over and over.

>>9939030
>Actual law fag here.
>If you’re in a public place all betts are off.
This is what you get when you have a sudden 4chan degree. You start spouting nonsense.

I wonder why people always graduate from 4chan university at night?

>>9939090
Fontys hogeschool Tilburg, hbo rechten alumni 2009
But yeah... overnight

Wow, you guys make a long discussion, which can be really short.
A convention has many minors. An upskirt shot of a minor is child porn.
Spreading it in a private whatsapp group is still spreading it.
Creep anon is an idiot and I hope he will get caught, banned and name will be known so he will be shunned from the community.
And having studied law really doesn't mean shit. I can say I'm a mathematician, but no matter how hard I say 1+1 = 3, it is still wrong.

>>9939030
The guy has a point.

More fine reading on this subject can be found in AnimeCon's photography rules.

You have to read a bit between the lines, but what they basically say is that the area in front of the venue is public, municipal territory. Animecon doesn't have anything tosay about that (don't know how that will be at Ahoy), so any photographers that roam there, might not have the best intentions, and while animecon want to know about them, there's not much they can do. As soon as you're on festival grounds, it's their rules and they can do something about pervy picturetakers.

Can this discussion end already. God...

>>9938071
You don't have to
Pls add me on discord

I hear Tomo is gonna run Abunai as well.

>>9939687
Nice

>>9939687
Just when you think Abunai can't get worse... >:)

>>9939687
Come on anon, if you're going to shitpost at least put some effort into it.

>>9939720
But uh MGC is really run by Tomo right?

>>9939724
Totally, that is if you're being sarcastic.

Why is this thread the most normalfag thread on this entire website.

>>9939884
This is the funniest post in the thread

>>9940439
This is the most pointless post of this thread. Or may that is this one.

>>9940439
Because it's actually true :v)

I don't get why people that have zero thing to do with momokun share drama about her. Witch hunting is almost the new trend, like the dude that got kicked out of the suicide squad.

>>9939884
We'll one thread had to be the most normalfag one.

>>9939884
lol no

>>9939884
Basically there are two types of Dutch 4chan users. Us, and the 12 year old boys at /int/.

>>9940944
I legit read whale hunting instead of witch hunting the first time I saw this post.

Anthea congratulations on your engagement!

>>9941808
Why not just tell her directly? I don't think most people know who she is or care. And it's more fun of it comes direct from someone and not through an anonymous imageboard.

>>9941808
Who?

>>9941808
What?

>>9938278
Which sword are you actually talking about here? The one "they" used for gladio or that sephiroth?

>>9942231
Gladio

There is no better way to cover up a nip slip with a led light right?

>>9942465
Nah pretty sure it's a nipple sticker. Should have used fashion tape. Why does her skin look like she's wearing a dead person suit?

Maybe she is dead

Rest in peace nipple chick

>>9942465
Bigger question, what on earth is going on with that ear. Why is it folded like that? Why does her wig look like a birds nest. Why did she think that dress was a good idea? This is Bad Cosplay-thread quality.

>>9942465

Who the hell did this photo. This pose with this angle is just horrible and don't do fairy lights when you cant edit ( well ).

And this girl. I know everyone cant be perfect but this has alot of horrible flaws.

Unpopular opinion: I think she's a good cosplayer. People shouldnt be so mean.

>>9942966
You must have pretty low standards then.

>>9942966
I don't know who she is and maybe she's a good cosplayer normally, but that particular picture is just bad. Her wig looks like something nested in it, the "ear" looks like a shrivelled up piece of chicken skin sprouting from her temple, her nipple pasty is peeling off and on full display, the gold trim on her top looks lumpy and cheap and the photography is terrible. Everyone has bad days but if I were her I wouldn't have wanted this posted online anywhere.

When you paint foam, aside from a primer and paint on top of it, do you add a top coat? Trying to buy all my supplies at once to avoid paying for shipping multiple times.

>>9942970
God damn it anon I can't look at chicken the same way again

>>9943063
Usually yeah, either spray varnish or hexflex clear. Or clear plastidip if you're going for plastidip primer anyhow

>>9943063
I only add a top coat to my armour whenever it's really cold outside. These ones work wonders keeping you warm and can also be worn with your regular clothes.

>>9943099
aylmao

>>9943063
I use hexflex clear or theatre grade varnish. However, I've found it's not always necessary as acrylic paint in itself is waterproof, whereas some clear topcoats aren't.. I'm debating not topcoating my next project, to see how that works out.

Do you use a brush on or a spray version for the topcoat? Or is there no difference for finishes

I want y'all to have this

>>9943147

>POSTS MADE IN DUTCH ARE AGAINST SITE-WIDE RULES AND WILL BE DELETED!

Krijg kanker, kale koppen niet te stoppen!

>>9943149
Me next sunday.

>>9943168
For a second I thought you where referring to the post above you lol

>>9943144
It doesnt matter but often enough sprays dont come as matte varnish. Spray is much easier but may not provide complete protection against wet spots in your paint if it gets wet.

>>9943257

Any recommendations for a matte one? only found gloss ones so far

>>9943208
I am now.

>>9940944
Well if you harass people it's fair enough. She was overrated anyway, so I'm gonna enjoy her cosplays being spammed less from now on.

Indeed glad its being spammed way less now.

Also didnt she make an apology in her instagram page while she said make a video? makes no sense

>>9943799
Damn it anon, have you not read >>9935238's post explaining about how to reply to someone?

>>9943720
I just said they mostly don't come as matte haha. I haven't found one yet in the netherlands, so i do shiny stuff with regular gloss spray and the rest by hand with matte varnish in a bottle (from Action). In the USA I found some Rustoleum matte varnish spray.

>>9943720
Other anon here, both Liquitex and Edding have matte spray finishes. The one by Edding (sold at Pipoos) doesn't play nice with all paints, but it has to be the most durable spray stuff I've ever seen. A few coats will protect your stuff from heavy rain and drops as if it's nothing. In fact it hold sup nicely on a bird house despite two years of direct sunlight and heavy rain. It does however have a barely noticeable shine to it, especially when you apply several layers, and the smell is unbearable when used indoors.

The one made by Liquitex plays nice with most paints but can be a bit harder to come by. I can't vouch for its durability, but I do know it gives a true clear coat. It also comes as a satin (Dutch: zijdeglans) finish which is nice if you want to have that soft dark IKEA furniture shine added to whatever you're covering. As for smell, there is none making it perfect for indoors use or when you're planning on wielding that prop the next day and don't want it to stink up the place. Both cost roughly the same, although you'll get more content with the Liquitex spray.

>>9943988
I'd just like to add that 'Winsor and Newton' also has a matte spray that's easy to work with and makes miracles happen. Sticks clean to wood/foam/paint/primer and usually only needs one layer to give a clean matte finish.

I'd say literally every spray art product is best used outside, even if they're not super smelly not all fumes carry scent so better safe than sorry.

So, it it just me or is discord acting weird right now. Can't see any servers & all my friends are supposedly offline.

don't know if this has been said before. but isn't red dot commerce just a money laundering scam from tomo? as they are a "stichting" and all.

>>9944255
Yeah that happens every now and than, mostly when Discord is doing maintenance or adding new features. The only thing you can do when it happens is to sit back, maybe check status.discordapp.com and wait for it to come back.

>>9944256
Several people have speculated things may not be 100% kosher about Tomo/RDC and I wouldn't be too surprised if they are correct. The thing is however that without any proof all that speculation will remain exactly that.

>>9944264
No it isn't in my opinion. Otherwise Whoops/MGC would be the same. Also Fakemonster and Nippon foundation and the porn girl who ownes Special Edition also has her own foundation. Red Dot is owned by Dave alone. Look at kvk.nl. Tomo is "owned" by TomoMark. The real money launderer is someone who is chairman at a major con who lives only from "ww-uitkering" and travels four times a year to Japan on expense of the foundation. And that's the real reason a lot of core staff left!

>>9944286
That's some dark shade, you got a source on that info?

>>9944736
What part of 'without any proof all that speculation will remain exactly that' did you not understand?

>>9944286
What part of 'without any proof all that speculation will remain exactly that' did you not understand?

>>9944256
A stichting doesn't say much. Hospitals are stichtings too.
Tomo is not an ANBI so its not a tax deductable for RD.A stichting still pays taxes.
Cash money on the other hand is hard to trace.

>>9944286
So basically you are jealous animecon actually has good contacts for cosplay events.
And who better to send to an events outside of the country than some without a job. I mean the rest of the core works full-time. Not everyone has nothing better to do than organize Tomo-fail events.
Also Karlijn, Jeroen and Akuma have been sent to other countries for them as well.
Stop being so but hurt, its not animecon fault your event sucks.

>>9945039
Thanks for replying. I'm not related to Tomo at all, but thank for the confirmation that it's true. I knew it already from former staff member BD and some others who confirmed it.

>>9945052
Cool!

>>9944256
I think that it was even a joke for a while...

>>9945052
How is that different from any other event world wide sending an assistant for a cosplay Compo? Even abunai used to send someone to ECC/ECG ?

You have obviously never been to a backstage during an international compo. EVERYONE has a chaperone. And all there travel is paid by the event that sent them.

>>9945052
Only two people can be this butt hurt about animecons finances.
An ex stafflid who quit when he demanded to get paid for his vrijwilligers werk. Or his shallow girlfriend.

>>9945039
You shouldnt be on 4chan woman. You promised not to.

>>9945039
Those names mean something?

>>9945264
Probably the organisators/hosts of anime

>>9944286
>>9945081
I don't know what might have played between this anon and Animecon about staff payment but..
>The real money launderer is someone who is chairman at a major con who lives only from "ww-uitkering" and travels four times a year to Japan on expense of the foundation.
It's called a business trip. Do you really think it would be a good idea for the contestants to go to Japan without him?! They're gonna have no idea what to do! Maybe they can rotate more between the staff, but it seems they 1) already do, 2) the Japanese staff might prefer to discuss things with him rather than other staff members. Like come on now, have a bit of common sense.

>>9945059
Difference between abunai and animecon:

the assistent they send you from animecon will help you
the assistent from abunai will not even say hello to you lol

>>9945918
Brb applying for a position at Abunai, I hate having to be social while on vacation.

>>9945918
Perhaps that is why they don't host any international competitions this year? Or am I just to quick to come to that conclusion?

>>9945982
Eurocos, it was AnimeCon's turn this year, so no surprises there.
Other competitions: from what I heard the organisors of the finals were not happy with abunai.

>>9945982
IIRC Abunai simply failed to deliver when it comes to organising their competitions. It's surprisingly hard to find people who are skilled and dedicated enough to organise a big compo year after year as well as to find the right people to assist them. When another con had these people in place I can't really blame any international competition from choosing them over Abunai (or Acon for what matters).

>>9946011
Eurocos wasnt happy with what i heard as well, so i woudnt be surprised if abunai wont get anything anymore

>>9945163
Which woman might you be speaking of? I'm highly interested

>>9946132
Don’t get your hopes up. There are no women on 4chan.

>>9946132
A qt leidse gf

>>9945803
He does seem to buy a lot of whisky from the convention money, too. Maybe it's not the best idea to let a person run on ww-uitkering handle the con finances.

>>9946312
>Maybe it's not the best idea to let a person run on ww-uitkering handle the con finances.
Please, do explain how this works. Who does what and why they should not. Because, like most regulars, I'm having a laugh.

>>9946312
lol lol lol lol lol
Indeed, >>9946355

If you have a "ww uitkering", you learn to deal with money, as you get not that much money for a month to pay for everything. So? I am also waiting for the explanation. Thanks!

>>9946312
Well he is not the treasurer but the chairman, two different functions run by different persons. But even then, Animecon is a pretty large organisation with dito cashflow under the watchfull eyes of the tax office, do you really think that they would be this stupid to lower themselfes to money laundering?

All this salt to other cons just because one Anon is wondering if Tomo could be using RDC for some shady business, totally not suspicious at all...

>>9946680
All this salt because one anon gave away knowledge that only people close to animecon staff know. Now THAT'S suspicious.

>>9946688
Oh I think I smell a rat...

>>9946688
What information would only be known to their staff?
Nothing here sounds that secretive. Plus like how much staff do they have, ex staff, Facebook friends.
Sounds like someone is doing some serious stalking.

I know actually more about animecon staff and how it works there than any other con, and I am not particularly close with any staff member of any convention. I'm not sure this one anon is so salty, but he starts looking like someone with some vested interest in trash talking other conventions than his own, and uses a lot of fake news to do so.

>>9946763
But do you see that as a bad thing?
Or is it better to have a organization that is secretive and covered in a cloud of smoke.
I mean if i compare animecon and abunai. animecon being open and honest about good and bad, and abunai that is quicker to take out the ban hammer than admit it did something wrong.
I much prefer the first. Knowing the human side of it makes me feel more involved and I honestly appreciate all the work they do, because I know that they are working so hard to make it better.
Abunai is mostly busy tooting it's own horn, and tomo only cares about having more editions.
Any other event doesn't even matter really.

>>9946787
I meant it as a positive, but I can see how you would interpret it differently. We are on the same page.

>>9946787
Acon: We're serious business when it comes to organising things and not afraid to take a risk.
Abunai: We know we're not perfect. Anyway, here are some dank memes about things our visitors always complain about.
Tomo, especially the TomoAnon squad: Criticism? I don't know what that is, but I sure as hell am taking everything that is being said personal!
Nishi: Better stay out of the spotlight, the last thing we want is community exposure and have people know we actually exist.
Viencon: "Kom je ook naar Viencon?"
ACC/RCC: Look at all of our celebrity guests! We've got celebrity guests, some of which even are celebrities and you can spend 5 seconds with one of these celebrities for the low price price of only €40!
DCC: Look at all the celebrities guests who will cancel last minute!
Elfia: Why isn't anyone complaining about us?
Castlefest: Why isn't anyone complaining about us either?
CosplayNL: What is moderating and why is everyone expecting me to do that as an admin?

>>9946725
Her chinese zodiac is a rat I think so yes, I do smell a rat. Her karma will follow soon.

>>9946856
>Year of the rat: 1924, 1936, 1948, 1960, 1972, 1984, 1996, 2008, 2020
Stupid salty time travelers born in 2020 talking shit in 2018. Go back to your own time!

>>9946856
Who is 'she'? I thought this rat/salty anon was a certain 'he' born in another Chinese zodiac year.

Oh well, the power of 4chan is that you'll never truly know who wrote what, I guess.

>>9946957
Some make it obvious enough. This one probably doesn't.

>>9946787
>Animecon being open and honest about good and bad, and abunai that is quicker to take out the ban hammer than admit it did something wrong.
I don't really care for either but your bias is gross and greasy anon. Abunai may not have the 'professional' image like Acon does but your statement doesn't hold up. Provide proof.

Remember when mr.chairman got so personally offended by a cosplayer criticizing Reika that he made a point to comment
with his personal account that the cosplayer would nevur evur be invited to animecon?

No one is perfect and everyone says dumb shit every now and then. Acon's organizing isn't flawless but they make
sure it doesn't kill the visitors their fun. Who cares if anyone is on WW, who cares whatever the staff gets as
reimbursement for their work. This is the way they work and so long as the convention keeps up it's quality I'll keep visiting.

>>9947001
I never said anything about professional. I am talking about Honesty in the sens of actually telling people when shit happens, and not leaving people in the dark.
See animecon apologizeing for the gala vs Abunais ph we fucked up with the hotel rooms again, stop bitching.

>>9947007
If anything this year the hotel reservations went smoothly and without any hickups whatsoever. Besides didn't NH Hotels took back the whole booking process 2 or 3 years ago?

>>9947028
Magic word : Thus year.
Look at all the years it didn't go right.
I remember taking up two girls in my room after abunai (back when they organized the rooms) fucked up. And their only solution was "Zoek het maar zelf uit". Or the multiple time Cinny flipped on someone. And I have a ton more of these.
Also shouldn't you be working on Abunais program of booklet C?

>>9947044
Cheers, I've got nothing to do with any of these posts/replies pal. I haven't posted here in a long time, till now of course.

I'm working on the schedule/map and booklet though(amongst many other tasks), with a bit of luck the schedule
will be up online next week or so.

>>9946680
Ha, this joke came from Tomo itself.

>>9947028
Not everyone with a sharp eye is affiliated to a con Anon. And even then the "magic word" doesn't mean shot considering NH Hotels has been responsible for the hotel reservations for the past 2 or 3 years. What's next, blaming Novotel for reservation fuckups at precious Acon editions?

>>9946957
It's also possible that it's the "he" you mentioned. I'm suspecting someone myself but I will see if she takes the bait.

And no I will not make it obvious. I enjoy it much more to see her stress because I know she will read this.

I can’t wait for this thread to sage so we can have a yamato bitching edition.

>>9947156
Okay.

>>9947156
Fucking Yamato and their lack of a website making it impossible to find where the damned competition is held, let alone find a live stream if there even is any!

So if you had to cosplay a train, which would you pick and why is it a NS VIRM-IV? Also would you go with a gijinka, casual VIRM-IV or mascot suit for this? I'm totally not asking this to get Prop-Anon to do another silly cosplay by the way.

is this the moment I can post random seagulls to make the thread sage?

>>9947343
I would and you fucking know it.

>>9947332
World Pop Festival. The competition is Sunday, 22:30 NL time.

>>9947462
No you won't. See, I'm daring you because I know dares are the perfect bait to make you do silly things such as dressing up as a VIRM-IV, despite the FLIRT being highly superior. Now allow me to increase the bait by simply dropping 3 words I know you won't be able to resist;

NS Train Megazord.

>>9947475
No.

>>9947477
No you won't do a NS Megazord but you will do a VIRM-IV cosplay? How wonderful, you just got yourself a deal!

>>9947343
>>9947462
also is this the moment we can make prop-anon promise to make a VIRM cosplay if she wins at yamato?

>>9939090
lol literally no expectation of privacy on public property, can film and photograph anything if its on public property, not even a lawfag this is just common knowledge. con grounds are not public property though and can ban any making of film or photos, i do not necessarily agree with it but they can do this, no charges can be made though as its not a written law but you have signed an agreement when you order your tickets. i dont know if you could get charged for breach of contract on this but if it could it would be way too much hassle to do it.

>>9947718
And what about general local regulations? There are municipalities in the Netherlands that strictly forbid upskirt and secret photography and filming in public space. And congrounds are still seen as areas accesible by the public.

Those general local regulations are most of the time firmly tested in courts so you won't have a leg to stand on if you get caught and handed over the local police who will act in accoordance with those general local regulations.

So no matter how you try to word it, explain it, the organisation can press charges, the owners of the venue can press charges and the local authorities can press charges, and it all has been tried and tested before all the way up to the supreme court. Don't be such a smug because you will get your ass fried over it.

>>9947764
Why are we still talking about this

It's the most boring discussion ever. Y'all idiots, stop.

>>9947788
Only if all the nonregulars stop coming here to post drama about people they don't like or stop pretending to be people they are not. It's too obvious.

And we like this discussion, mind you. You are the idiot.

>>9947925
Honestly, no one cares about the legal questions about fucking creep shots. Just be a decent human being, don't take them. There, discussion over.

>>9947925

Newsflash: The actual regulars are fucking tired of this discussion.

Anyhow, who's excited for sunday? Can't wait to see that windmill win <3

What's with these cosplayers suddenly buying shitloads of likes?

>>9948314
That rock you've been sleeping under must've been cozy.

The stupid thing is, you can buy a few decent costumes, do multiple shoots in m, buy likes and if you look popular enough you can get invited to cons.

>>9948612
That's the insane part. I always wonder why they have to buy them. It's as if those likes are some sort of validation for them.

I’ll never understand why people would support some mediocre looking girl with bought taobao cosplays and likes. I’d support people like team paraluna over kimu or something.

>>9948620
I think you are missing the point. 20K likes get invited to cons. 2 Likes get's you a pat on the back and the number to a self help service.

>>9948630
Same

>>9948630
If she had a fun and bubbly personality I'd still support someone, regardless their bought taobao cosplays. But even that's shit imo.

>>9948612

isnt that the thing alot of them try to do? Grow and make it their job.

That is something i laugh so hard at. They think buying likes gets them somewhere. In the end you still have to spend money as a starter if you want a booth or whatever.

It's just funny since almost not a single dutch cosplayer knows shit about social networking, PR, approaching or know how to get into them outside of their little dutch coscom cause 99% are social akward fucks who cant get shit done but cry when others like paraluna, syrup etc get a bit more "big" or "well known" ( regardless of PR or luck ).

>>9948690
They try so hard
And don’t get faaaar
But in the end, it doesn’t even matter
They had to buy
To gain it all
But in the end, it doesn’t even matter

Attention Gulls, we will now be conducting a gull migration experiment. Please participate in our little experiment by flying over to the new thread >>9948721


(New thread >>9948721)

>>9948697

They want to ride all the hype,
They want to ride it all.
They try to be sexy and hot,
They try to do boudoir~~

You say its cos, i say thot, you say its boudoir, i say whore, you say its for fun, i say its just for the likes cause you are need of attention and validation ~~~

Bicycle... Bicycle....

Since some people can't seem to behave like grown ups, here's a new thread after the other one got removed due to vendetta posting. Naturally I'd recommend keeping your vendetta's to yourself this time around.
>>9951659