/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

i love sweet lolita

Second for classic lolita best lolita

Where do you guys get plain lace-topped socks from? All of the ones I see for sale look really cheap and ugly.

>>9858019
Baby, love their socks.

>>9858029
Me too

Anyone else miss the release of that physical drop dress and kind of sad about it? I have post notifications turned on on instagram and still missed out, it might be time to try twitter.

>>9857990
New karami detail

>>9858019
Baby, gull.

>>9858061
Which dress, the nurse one? Reservation is open till the 30th.

>>9858092
Looks like toilet paper somehow.

is handmade ita

>>9858191
Assuming you're not a troll there's a handmade thread where they make some pretty quality stuff. Go check it out

>>9857994
>>9858005
You guys are shit. EGL revival.

>>9858102
no, the black and white one. already sold out

>>9857990
>>9858092
Can someone tell me what this is about? It's the brand Princess Doll and the release is Karami?

>>9858019
Thirding Baby, but AP and Innocent World also do decent chemical lace ones and Meta is famous for their Raschel lace ones.

Did anyone's Space Lollipop MTO charge yet from the japanese website? Do MTO's ever delay with taking money?

>>9858019
Ay pee all day

I want the baby ones but they're a little expensive imo, I think like 30$ ish

>>9858019

Just bought the IW ones from IW white and they're A+.

Also bought some ones from modcloth. I'm prepared to be disappointed but it was worth a try for $6.

Making another big batch of these in case anyone else wants to shamelessly display that they're a toxic person this con season via a pin. There are surprisingly a lot of us.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/608669963

>>9858293
>Just bought the IW ones from IW white
IWW doesn't have socks in stock at all, what do you mean?

>>9858309

Oops, I guess I meant straight IW.

>>9858298
OH MY GOD please tell me you'll have these at the convention next weekend! I need to buy one!

>>9858341
Absolutely! I'll carry the ones up in the shop but also have special defects to give out free with purchase for anyone from /cgl/. Maybe I should mention that in the Canada thread, haha. If you want it before then, I can bring it to the meet if you're in the comm.

>>9858298
Do you ship internationally? I don’t know if Etsy is auto calculating international shipping or not

>>9858343
Awesome! I'm from the next town over and taking a break from comms at the moment, but thank you for the offer. I'll be sure to stop by your booth because those pins are amazing.

>>9858019
IW, I prefer them to Baby.

>>9858298
>https://www.etsy.com/listing/608669963

>>9858239
That's two different releases

anons, I was wondering if someone would be able to help a gull out. I want to make an outfit for my friends Usakumya to match her dream dress for her birthday, but I want to do it on the sly and don't have a Usa of my own to take measurements from. I think it is a medium sized Usa about (at a guess from a glance) 30cm from foot to head. Can anyone point me in the right direction or have a collection of these little cuties that could help me out?

I would really appreciate it!

>>9858298
Are they all different?

>>9858191
If you have to ask then it probably is

>>9858235
>>9858061
Same here, anon. I follow the brand on IG but only found out about this release when someone posted it in their stories. I'm a little heartbroken :(

>>9858526
I can measure it out for you. What measurements do you need?

>>9858567
i just got the sweetie violet set, the new moitie release, and the Physical Drop nurse set so i was completely out of money when they put this up. im so sad. And you know it's highly unlikely this will pop up second hand. Kuniko Kato aesthetics is life.

uhh . . .

>>9858655
Is this supposed to look like bread? Would've been cuter without the strange braid.

>>9858567
I've got a fetish for ladder lace. This is beautiful.

>>9858526
Make it fully shirred just in case

>>9858019
Meta has some, too.

>>9858191
Depends on the skill of the seamstress. Handmade can be ita if it's done badly, but that's true of all Lolita. Except Milanoo; that's always ita.

sorry for blog post, but I recently got pic related. While it was still on a hanger, I unzipped it, but the zipper had so much trouble getting down past the waist seams that I had to pull much harder than I was comfortable with. It was even harder pulling the zipper back up.

I am several cm under the minimum bust measurement, but I couldn't even get the zipper past the waist seams when it was on. I gave up until today, and tried to zip and unzip it while it was still hanging up to loosen it up, when I noticed that a few of the side seams had loosened up to the point that a few of the gathers in the skirt closest to the zipper had loosened as well.

I can now zip and unzip the dress much more easily, on a hanger and worn, but I'm still kind of upset that it took loosening the side seams of a brand new dress to fit someone well under the minimum measurements.

Is this normal for some dresses? And do I need to sew/repair anything to keep more threads from unraveling?

>>9858784
I don't know but this dress is so pretty

>>9858546
Yep. Just slightly. You get to choose the colourway but the small detail will vary. I would love for so many people to collect them and be all like: "Oh hey, yours has roses and mine has crosses. I think mine would match your milky cross better and yours fits my coord! Wanna swap?"

>>9858784
I think it's a common construction error. hidden zippers are notoriously the bane of a lot of lolita wardrobes. try and monitor the loose threads so there isn't major damage. I'm concerned that the gathers have been affected...
Could you post pics, anon?

Can anyone help me properly identify this dress? All I know is that it’s atelier Pierrot

>>9858655
For some reason this reminds of the infamous poop brooch. Maybe because of the shape and texture?

I'm a little disappointed in Baby. I don't care for this.

>>9858848
Isn't this from last year?

>>9858202
Im attempting to sew a jsk (with some help from a family member) i have simplicity pattern 8444 that im going to alter a bit. i dont have much machine sewing experience but my family member does. just a little nervous that this is going to come out poor. pic related is serving some inspiration

>>9858849
It showed up on my Insta feed a few days ago.

>>9858848
>>9858853
it's from last year anon, they're just trying to sell it

>>9858865
I don't remember this one, but I can see why they're trying to sell it, yeesch. I think I tend to block dresses I consider ugly from my memory.

>>9858298
Awesome, I'm glad I remembered to check the general while I'm on vacation! So stoked to get mine

>>9858298
Just purchased one. This is top!

>>9858850
I don't know if someone's suggested this yet, but do a mock up first using muslin or other inexpensive fabric. You'll be able to work out any kinks and make any adjustments on it. I have the Legend of Zelda pattern from simplicity, and even though I cut my correct size it's too big with really long straps.

>>9858840
Here's the inside and outside.

>>9858926
>>9858965
Thank you! I hope you like them.

>>9858841
Hi, anon, I own this as well. I don't know the name, but I do still have the tag: TOP3009 is the item number. Hope that helps you out!

Man Wunderwelt becomes more and more expensive. Even some pieces off Lacemarket are cheaper.

>>9858298
I bought one too, these are amazing. I'm glad they're selling well and I hope you make a killing on these! Side note since I've been eyeing the portrait broaches too but I don't wear broaches that often, do you ever do rings or necklaces with the portraits?

>>9859272
I definitely could. I finally got around to taking a pic of all available frames for custom orders. The purple heart and blue rectangle in the center are suitable sizes for a ring. (but of course they can be any colour you like) Plus I have a handful of metal filligree bezels that would fit a nice oval image. The cross is my own, and made with necklaces in mind.

secrets

>>9858841
Atelier Pierrot doesn't really individually name their dresses. Chances are it's called something like "off-shoulder shirring OP" as it looks very similar (but not identical) to this one listed on cc https://www.closetchildonlineshop.com/product/168892

>>9859096
>>9859480

Would either of you happen to know what the ball park is for this piece’s sizes? I know it’s heavily shirred but have a weird body type so I’m trying to figure out the sizing. I’d ask the seller directly but I don’t want to contact her until I’ve completely decided on the purchase.

>>9859483
I don't have that specific one but based on my experience of other Atelier Pierrot shirred items you can probably get the bust up to over 110cm. If you are quite busty or have largeish shoulders/arms though, be careful with the bodice length.

Can I still buy tickets to the dream wonder tea party?

>>9859280
I love the cross one. Do you only have one or are there multiples of these?

>>9859082
Double check, but I think there's a hack where you rub wax on zippers like this and it greases them up.

>>9859084
Are you going to make more Animal Crossing ones? I'd like a cgl crest and a Marshall.

Does the lolita discord have a buy and sell channel? Only reason I want to join is because I need to check everywhere every day for my dream dress, to be able to sleep peacefully.

>>9859500
It's my own cutom mold. I can have infinite crosses, in any colour.

>>9859531
I plan to. I'm working on Muffy and Julian, but my style isn't exactly super kawaii, and Marshal might end up some abomination to people that like him.

>>9859591
Now I just want him more. Looking forward to it!

Anyone feel like Closetchild has been weak for a long time now? I feel like most of their updates are MILK or random goth/punk brands. Lolita used to be centre stage when their updates were more regular, now it feels like they hardly get in a fraction as much.

What second hand jp shops are worth watching nowadays?

>>9859631
Even their physical locations suck in variety these days. I used to be able to find a so much good classic and goth stuff there, but the good times are over I guess..

The best places to shop these days are mercari and fril and maybe grandbazaar (but you have to be fast, the good stuff usually sells instantly). Wunderwelt is shit bc of their pricing and all the other second hand shops update so irregularly, it's not not bothering with them anymore.

Does anyone know what’s going on with antique beast right now? Their site says they’re not accepting any new orders. Do they usually do that? If so how long does it usually last?
I was planning on doing an order from them.....

>>9859673
They open only a few days a month. Lurk more

>>9859673
Every couple months they open for a week, otherwise they are always closed.
Subscribe to their newsletter to learn when they open again.

>>9859651
I'm a noob so I'm sorry for asking to be spoonfed, but does fril ship internationally? Or any of these (I know cc and ww do). Hope this question isn't too dumb lol.

>>9859687
Yes this is a dumb question lol but I'll help an anon out

Fril and mercari are secondhand sales. So there are tons of different sellers. It's an app based market place. Think of it sort of similar to depop or something of that nature. They do not ship international and very few shopping service will purchase through them. Tenshi shop can though

>>9859692
Jesus christ. Ask in the dumb questions thread or lurk more. This is just sad.

>>9859692
>>9859687
Jesus christ. Ask in the dumb questions thread or lurk more. This is just sad.

>>9859695
lol
>>9859692
Thanks, I expected it to be something like this.

>>9859701
Kill yourself or lurk moar

>>9859702
I'll go to the stupid questions thread next time, I didn't mean to upset anyone lmfao, sorry.

>>9859483
I have that dress and it fits me really well at 94 bust. It would probably fit someone petite really well and likely goes up to 98 or 100ish cm bust (just an estimate, I don't have it with me this weekend to measure)

How warm are AP vs Baby vs IW coats? I live in a cooler region of the US and need a decent warm coat that holds up well against snowy days. I’d also like to know which one makes thicker coats than the others.

>>9859901
I have two long AP 2009 coats and they're not super warm. Would best suit high 40s to mid 50s degree weather imo but it depends how much you're wearing underneath. Don't know about the others.

What's the best way to whiten yellowed tulle lace? Looking to whiten a pair of wrist cuffs and a blouse

>>9859901
>>9859920
Yeah my AP coat is more for fall.


t.midwester

>>9859930
Try Oxyclean before trying bleach anon. Bleach can damage the fibers, only use it diluted and as a last resort.

>>9859901
Can recommend Baby's coats for winter, but look for a wool rather than polyester (they are both equally warm though in my experience). I've worn them in negative temperatures and been quite cozy.

>>9858642
Thank you so much for getting back to me anon, I am looking for sort of like jsk measurements i.e:

Chest, bodice length, skirt length (probably both "knee" and ankle length measurements), and strap length. and if you don't mind, arm length + wrist circumference in case I decide to make a blouse. lastly if head circumference as if I was to make a rectangle head-dress.

I really really appreciate this anon.

>>9859901
Get one that’s made of wool or angora, not polyester

>>9858841
This is from the 2018 lucky packs Atelier Pierrot released.

>>9859531
Thank you anon, I'll have to look into trying the wax.

>>9859082
Go to a trusted tailor for advice anon. From what I can see, with my moderately experienced eyes, it looks like the zipper was sewn into the seam with the fabric too close to the zipper teeth. This means that the zipper didn't have enough space to pass through the opening as fabric was blocking it's way. The result of moving the zip up and down is the stretched thread you can see as loose.

The abrasion of the zipper passing over the thread will eventually cause the stitching to break, but the good news is it won't cause any structural damage if it does and the zip isn't faulty. This is stitching error, I would suggest going to a professional to re-insert the zip which will fix the problem, and is inexpensive relative to the worth of the dress.

As for the gathering thread, it looks like one of the "top threads" of the overlocking has been pulled, probably by the zipper. This is not structurally integral, so if you were worried about the gather on the skirt falling off you need not be. The tail of the thread will just need to be secured to stop the overlocking from slowly unraveling, exposing the raw edge of the fabric and risking fraying.

These sort of things sometimes happen through no fault of anyone really. It just slipped through quality control. If you bought the dress new from Baby I would suggest politely informing them of the stitching error, as if no-one mentions it, the production manager will be under the impression that production is running smoothly.

>>9860106
Thank you so, so much, anon; this was so extremely helpful and also a relief to hear.

I will look into securing the tail of the gathering thread and consulting a tailor; I'll message Baby, too.

The dress is perfect, otherwise, and I love it so much, so I'm glad to get some resolution to the issue. Thank you so much, again!

>>9860109
As for the securing of the thread, be sure not to use liquid fray stoppers, it might sound like a good idea however on this area of the dress it might cause irritation if it rubs up against your skin and then you will hate wearing it. Glad I could help!

>>9859901
I wear both my AP and Baby in the winter, I am always warm in lolita though. The Pettis, blouses, etc trap so much heat that I don't wear a coat unless it's below freezing or I'm outside long time and it's right above freezing

>>9859631
>>9859651
Am I just searching wrong? Everyone says that Wunderwelt is so much more expensive than secondhand sellers on fril and mercari or auction but I just don't see it. Any time I'm searching on auction the only cheap listings are with the smallest photos of a crumpled up dress thats still priced just as expensive if not more expensive than the same listing on Lacemarket. Where are you all seeing this amazing cheap brand?

The OP image is so aggressively bland I keep skipping right over the thread in the catalog smdh

>>9860154
Confirmation bias, people want it to be cheaper, therefore it is.

>>9859901
I have an IW coat from 2009 and it keeps me toasty and warm, but I've yet to wear it in the snow so it may not be warm enough for your climate.

>>9860154
I think it depends on patience, tactics, and personal preferences.
Scouring mercari I've found dresses for ¥5,000 and less in great condition, and sometimes you can also ask your ss to suggest a lower price to sellers and they'll accept so you can get a better deal.
WW does have good deals sometimes but I find that their pieces are often overpriced, especially for their condition; might be a personal preference thing but I'm not too comfy paying ¥8,000+ for a dress with visible flaws.

>>9860254
I just got one of my dream dresses off wunderwelt for about ¥7000, and its going for that price or more on auction sites. but the dress from wunderwelt is practically perfect, id rather pay a few dollars more for the convenience of clear photos of the item desu

>>9860254
I agree with this anon. I find WW to be over priced. It is cheaper than the western second hand market but a pinch more expensive than CC. prices don't really drop much below 8,000 yen even when the dress is 12+ years old with damages, wrinkles and missing parts. Unless they are on sale at which point it is probably an unpopular item to boot.

I don't think I will ever buy bags off WW as they are often just too expensive for the damages, when I can find the same bag in a similar or cheaper condition with less damage. I have spent a lot of money at WW, but I've never felt like I've gotten a bargain when the item arrives in the post.

Frill on the other hand, I have gotten heaps of great bargains from sellers who have items that are in great condition but sell cheaply because they are just closet clearing.

If you are patient you can get some really great pieces off Japanese secondhand sales sites.

>>9860154
Wunderwelt sells a lot of clothes in bad condition without properly mentioning it. They list semi-rare items or items that were popular 5-10 years ago for beyond of what they are worth these days. On the other hand they sell a lot of cheap basics, but those are usually out of style clothes that nobody wears anymore, so the are sitting for months and months on their page until they finally do a discount for 1000 yen. And if you compare closetchild to wunderwelt pricing you will see that closetchild on average is 1000-2000 yen cheaper for cheaper for wardrobe fillers and main pieces can be even more cheap on CC compared to WW.

It's been a month since VM put forth anything new. I'm getting nervous...

>>9860353
Rococo Bouquets should be being delivered soonish and hopefully they'll announce more reservations afterwards. I have at least five items on their rerelease survey that I still want to get from them before they go under.

>>9860267
>Frill on the other hand, I have gotten heaps of great bargains from sellers who have items that are in great condition but sell cheaply because they are just closet clearing.
How? Everything nice or cheap I see on fril sells out within hours and my SS are always too slow. Did I miss some secret technique?

>>9860366
be friends with people in Japan to buy for you lol

>>9860367
If I had friends I wouldn't spend my time here anon.

>>9860366
I think you need a better Shopping Service. Mine never has a problem getting them.

>>9860373
Which one do you use?

>>9860375
jpshopping.jp

While sending a dress out for shipment the other day I thought about how convenient it would be if we could vacuum pack clothes for shipment. I did some googling to see if this was a thing and found a post by a seller on eBay who apparently saves a lot of money by doing this, though though they use a foodsaver machine. Their pics:
https://m.imgur.com/a/77G5Y

Is this tacky or not a completely terrible idea? How would people feel if they started getting vacuum sealed burando in the mail?

>>9860508
I honestly love the idea. You can fit it into smaller packages, and keep it watertight so that it doesn't arrive damaged. If I was on the recieving end, I would be pleased.

>>9860508
As long as the item won't get damaged in the process I wouldn't mind, especially if it helps reduce shipping costs. Just make sure to warn the buyers beforehand.

>>9860503
Are you just memeing or is that a serious suggestion? Their website looks like a scam.

>>9860530
nayrt theyre not a scam I used them twice but they were pretty slow getting my items. it took a few days

I apologize if this might belong in the stupid questions thread, but can anyone help me with a question about Usakumya?

I really want to buy the one that fits in the little outfits Baby releases for it, but I am confused about which is the proper size to get? (Also what other colors it comes in with that particular size?) Thank you!

>>9860154
It also depends on what you wear. I wear a lot of oldschool and plain older releases so I'm looking for those out of style clothes >>9860327 mentioned - in my case, WW is a great option because I can pick up skirts for 4000 yen and older blouses for reasonable prices too. But if you wear prints or newer releases, WW is very expensive.

I do remember WW being a lot cheaper a few years ago however, and I still prefer to buy from CC.

>>9860609
I’ve never spent over $10,000 yen on a piece from wunderwelt. Maybe it’s just the style I like? Closet child to me is very expensive and they rarely carry any pieces older than 5 years and they rarely have solids.

>>9860541
So why did it only take a few hours for that anon?

>>9860508
I would love that, as long as it's still easy to open the package without damaging anything

>>9860639
>CC
>rarely have solids
What? CC stock plenty of solids and unless they're very new (i.e. released a year or two ago) they're usually quite affordable, if not straight up cheap.

>>9860646
I have no idea

>>9860661
nayrt but in my experience CC's stock is usually newer pieces (2014+) while WW's stock has a wider range of release. obviously there are exceptions but that's usually been the case for me

Any other gull ever felt confused about what they wanted to do in lolita?
I'm just at this point where I don't really know what kind of dress I want anymore and I haven't bought anything in months and barely wears it anymore.
I still love the fashion but I'm just having this feeling of "confusion" like I don't know what I like anymore.
Help me

>>9860661
They never seem to have any solid JSKs for angelic pretty or baby when I look.

>>9860673
Does your wardrobe already reflect which colours and cuts are most flattering with your skintone and body type? Don't you have a favourite brand that you can always look forward to their new releases?

>>9860675
You might need to look more often; solid AP isn't very common but solid Baby comes up fairly often, as does solid Meta, and if you like older pieces, Cornet comes up too.

>>9860677
Yup. I used to love Baby and AP but I don't like anything they released since years now

>>9860673
This is quite similar to how I feel. There are few releases I look forward to, and the brands I was loving have closed or slow on releasing new items. I'm trying to wear it more often but it isn't practical for work or majority of my study time.

>>9860673
Maybe you will figure it out by wearing it

>>9860639
>$10,000 yen
I know what you mean, but please proofread next time.

Does anyone know what dress this is?
https://youtu.be/6Jw7qmYLXvE

>>9860725
Tiara Rose OP in Pink

>>9860673
So much this. I tried to make a wishlist to figure out what direction should I take, but now I just have a list of dresses with no distinctive theme. I don't want to buy things to try them once or just put them into my closet collecting dust. It doesn't help that I'm a total lonelita and only leave my house for work or some necessary visits. Need to say, I don't want to wear lolita at work for various reasons. Maybe that's the point where I should just drop it all.

>>9860738
I fele you so much.
I'm also a lonelita who can't wear lolita daily for various reasons and I just don't feel like making myself pretty (aka putting some makeup on) to just stay at home.
If you still love the fashion you shouldn't drop,just take a break? I haven't worn it in a few months and have been looking up stuff online from the "lifestyle" era and it's inspiring me more and more!

>>9858019
Aliexpress

>>9860758
ntayrt but got any links? i've looked multiple times and can't find any decent ones

>>9860154
It is though? I buy blouses and cardigans on ww for 50-90 that you can find on auction for 30-45 if you are patient. But I love accessories and tops

why the fuck is the cgl tag on Instagram full of ddlg shit?

>>9860751
There is no lifestyle era, just a few special snowflakes who took things too seriously

>>9860859
Cgl=caregiver/little

>>9860859
because it stands for "care giver little" in their degenerate fetish

>>9860863
nah,by that i meant it was more of a daily fashion for the most part and less of a "special event" wear like it tends to be nowadays

>>9860859
I too made this horrifying discovery the other day.

>>9860867
>"special event" wear
this is a meme desu most lolitas wear it like normal clothes, they just don't wear it to work and such

>make an aucfan premium account
>are now able to see yahoo auctions back to 2008
I want to cry gulls. Moitie in 2008 was so fucking cheap, we truly ruined the market.

>>9858298
how hefty are they?

Any suggestions for nice wigs suitable for lolita? Dreamholic has an iffy rep and imo Maple wigs look incredibly fake and shiny, so not interested in those.

Also, does anyone know how true Cyperous' colours are on their site to real life? I want to get some clip in bangs but I have ginger hair so it's hard to match.

>>9861086
Brightlele is pretty much my go-to at the moment. The wig caps are a bit on the smaller side but I find they're alright if you stretch them out a bit and just don't use the elastics to tighten them (in fact I just cut them off bc fat american head). I think they're very nice for the price point with a pretty color selection, interesting + cute styles, and they look pretty realistic. Not too shiny, shiny enough to look like freshly washed hair. You can buy them from their Rakuten shop or from Belladonna.

I miss when Lockshop had really nice wigs. I have two that I got from them in either late 2014 or early 2015 and they're really nice, some of my best wigs. Bought a style from them in 2016 and it was shit - just thin and shiny. Not worth the price I paid even on discount from Lolita Collective.

>>9860530
Serious suggestion, I order from them like three times a month. Their website isn’t top notch, but they always buy my items within an hour and their service and fees are great.

>>9860646
It probably depends on your timezone and such, although it’s also pure random. Tenshi is fast for my friends, but not for me. This one is fast for me, but maybe not for others.

>>9860866
>>9860867
>>9860871
This makes me wonder how many kinksters find /cgl by accident because of Google.
And how many stick around?

>>9861295
So this is why our fashion is filled with ageplayers!

>>9861297
Also because of the name of our fashion, unfortunately; Nabokov's Lolita is highly romanticized by these people, and the fashion is quite widely spread, so I wouldn't be surprised if they came across "our" lolita during their searches for kink fodder.

>>9861086
This may not be the style you’re looking for given the brands you cited, but I constantly get compliments on the Diana from Epic Cosplay. I have it in several natural colors and usually wear it brushed out to slightly longer waves.

>>9861086
>>9861320
Also, as a fellow ginger: Drop the money on a HH fringe clip and have it professionally dyed to match your hair. You’ll never look back

>>9860875
Nayrt but nay I ask what kind of comm you’re in? My comm is quite large, at least 50 active lolitas, but I can only think of four who wear lolita on a regular basis and not just to meets and special events. It’s kind of depressing.

>>9860859
I found this recently too. So gross

>>9861326
I'm in the Dutch comm. But the last time I went to a meet is like two years ago. My lolita friends go like twice a year. Because there is only 1 comm in our country, for a lot of lolitas it's too far away to attend meets in Utrecht (where they usually are). I wear lolita every Sunday regardless of what I'm doing that day anyway. There are hundreds of people in the Dutch comm, and a while ago, the mods deleted non-lolitas. So all those people in the group are lolitas but they don't go to meets. I even know two lolitas who have never been in the facebook group. They don't need a special occasion to dress up. But of course, the people who are most active in a comm post to CoF and other social media about lolita, so online it looks as if they are the majority.

>>9861447
>wear lolita every Sunday regardless of what I'm doing

What a good idea! I should try it out. I always talk myself out of dressing up because 1) I rarely leave my house because I work from home 2) my work includes awful messy stuff that would absolute destroy my clothes if it were to get on them, so I never risk it

>>9861315
what i don't get is why anyone would ever romanticize a "relationship" as abusive as Humbert's and Lolita's, regardless of the age gap

but it wouldn't be the first time an abusive relationship has been romanticized, i guess

Just sent out a rare dress to a buyer and the postal office removed some of my safety wrappings before sealing the envelope "to remove air bubbles". I'm scared

>>9861451
Either people can't fucking read, or they don't bother with the book at all and go straight to the movies. I'll admit I haven't seen those but I imagine that not a single adaptation remained loyal to showing the disgusting pedo ass that Humbert is supposed to be.
So when you don't show audiences the truth, they don't understand Humbert is supposed to be an unreliable narrator, even less so because pop culture generally marketed Lolita as a "forbidden romance".

Or because Humbert's lies conveniently play into these people's kinks so they don't give a shit. In all honesty, they wouldn't be the first to romanticize it.

>>9861447
>all those people in the group are lolitas but they don't go to meets
This isn’t really true. Pretty much anyone who seemed to be interested in the fashion (and wasn’t an obvious perv) got to stay and they mostly cleared out dead accounts or accounts from people who only joined because did a school report on alternative fashion or whatever. There are still a lot of “lolita at heart” people, newbies who are still saving up for their first dress and cosplayers who have one Taobao dress to wear to Elfia with their Restyle horns and cosplay wig in the comm. Nothing against these people but I wouldn’t take the group numbers as an accurate indication of how many truly active lolitas there are in our country. It would be interesting to do a poll, actually.

Also many of the most active members in our comm don’t post to COF often if at all. Most of us just stick to IG.

>>9861520
I know people who’ve read the book and still think Dolores is a slutty girl who seduces an older man. They argued with me when I tried to explain the concept of an unreliable narrator. Some people are just retarded.

I apologize if this is the wrong thread for this (please feel free to send me elsewhere if need be) but would any of you ladies be able to help me find this dress for sale someplace?
I want to get it for my girlfriend, she saw it at an anime con we were at last year and fell in love with it but I was too broke at the time to purchase it for her but I saved enough up for it and was hoping I might still be able to get it somewhere? Any help much appreciated.

>>9862112
i did a quick look around and didn't see anything, it's an H. Naoto STEAM piece if you wanna look for something similar

>>9862131
She was in love with that particular dress so I'm afraid it has to be that one but I'll start with what you've given me and hopefully see if I can find anything, thank you very much anon.
Any other help still also appreciated.

>>9862112
This isn't a single dress. It's a cutsew, skirt, corset(s), and a harness. H.NAOTO loves layering stuff together, so it's not just a single item you can buy.

>>9860075
I'm happy to help!

chest: 33cm (measured direclty under the armpits) (though the belly is bigger: 35cm when completely stuffed)
neck circumference: 28,5cm
bodice length: 15cm
skirt length knee: 9cm
skirt length ankle: 11cm
strap length: 108cm
arm length: 10cm (7cm up to the wrists)
wrist circumfence: 11cm
length rectangle headdress: 15cm if it should go over the ears; otherwise space between the ears is 9cm

>>9861723
>I know people who’ve read the book and still think Dolores is a slutty girl who seduces an older man.
Yeah, unfortunately like I said, some people just can't fucking read.

>>9861723
>It would be interesting to do a poll, actually.
It wouldn't, because a lot of people (me) don't see the posts on their feed and don't care enough to go to the group to check every week. Maybe I'm biased because most lolitas I know are not active in the comm.

Anyone else ever feel like they're stuck in a rut with their wardrobe?

I keep doing wardrobe clearouts to buy new stuff that I think I want, but then when I look in I always go back to the same few dresses. I end up barely wearing the new stuff, so I do a wardrobe clearout to get stuff I think I'd want instead, rinse and repeat.

I think I have a problem really figuring out what I like and sticking to it. I occasionally impulse buy a dress or other piece that I've never even seen before, and then end up never wearing it and sell it.

Sorry for rant, I guess. I just get so jealous of people who have gorgeous, cohesive wardrobes, I just feel like I can't commit to a theme or even a dream dress list. All my coord end up looking so bland too because my accessories barely match any new shit I get, and by the time I've bothered getting stuff to match, I don't even want to wear the new stuff anymore.

>>9858658
Yes it's supposed to look like bread. And it successfully does. And it's weird as hell.

>>9862515
Well consider this: What do you like about these few dresses that you favor over everything else that you buy? Is it the colors, the cuts, any specific details they have? Maybe figure that out and start again from there.

>>9862226
Looks like Im fucked then, I haven't found any of the pieces so far beyond a few small accessories so maybe I'll just have to tell her I tried and offer to let her choose something else; bummer, but thank you and the other anon for your help.

>>9862546
You're a good boyfriend and you should feel good.

is rainies on lm rainedragon from lj?

>>9862515
if you have only a few dresses you will stick to, why not buy accessories that will match them so you can do multiple coordinates with those looks?

>>9862553
No

>>9860608
Those outfits generally fit the middle sized pochette bags (around 30 cm long). They should fit both usakumya and kumakumya.
Usakumya is only available in white brand new right now, but if you look on the used market you can sometimes find them in black and pink from older releases. Also, if you go to a convention where Baby is a guest, they often have limited edition usakumyas for sale. They're usually still white, but often are accesorized slightly differently than the standard lace collar and pink bows.
Usakumyas are delightful and I love it when people dress them up to match their coords. I hope you find the perfect one!

>>9859930
hot water+baking soda all over yellowed areas, keep it moist for a couple hours, then let dry and sit for few more hours. add sunlight for especially stubborn yellowing

never ever bleach

>>9860361
speaking of the survey: what did VM decide to release? did the results come out yet?

New Meta release! This is the Vintage Fruit series, the OP costs 31800

>>9862685
Pink colourway

Anyone know what this dress is/have photos of it worn?

>>9862685
ok this is classy. wow Meta! that ribbon was such a good choice too, really elevates this

>>9862688
I forget the name, but it's a btssb dress

>>9862688
https://lolibrary.org/items/btssb-petit-water-drop-scallop-jsk

>>9862553
Rainies was rainies on livejournal iirc

Not sure if dumb question or not, but I forgot to tell my SS to mark down about $1300 of secondhand stuff from fril and mercari. I live in burgerland, so how much should I expect to pay in customs fees?

>>9862753
like zero. I think burger customs start much higher like 3k to 5k but I could be wrong

>>9862753
>>9862756
Customs start at $800 for luggage when travelling back into the country, dunno if that applies to mail though.

>>9862753
If they declared your items as "worn clothing", then you pay 0

>>9862763
My SS usually declares things as "secondhand clothing", does that count? Also do bags/shoes/jewelry also fall under that category?

>>9862756
>>9862763
Fuck you guys don't even know how good you have it. Meanwhile I had to pay 23 Euro customs for a package that was only worth 11 Euro today.

>>9862685
The back of this reminds me of those traditional Mexican dresses in a good way.

>>9862753
I've had $80 of custom fees for ~$800 worth of stuff. But it was brand new so I'm sure it differs based on the customs codes they enter on the package.

Official Moitie Sakuracon event report up!
https://moi-meme-moitie.com/?tid=5&mode=f17

>>9862686
The jsk, which costs 32800

>>9862882
In red

>>9862800
I got charged £12 on less than £30 of pins, makes buying from the US hardest as I get items marked down from everywhere else

>>9862546
psst
>https://hnaoto.shop/catalogsearch/result/index/?p=1&q=steam
you might not be able to find the EXACT pieces in this coordinate but theres 200+ pieces of h.naoto's steampunk stuff, you can find something similar
there's even sets you can buy to take the work out of you picking stuff

Why is the AP Paris markup so fucking huge? I might as well just risk customs fees and get it from the better stocked AP Japan store and it'd work out roughly the same price.

>>9862953
It includes customs and import fees. A lot of European Lolita’s complain about those so if they buy from that store they won’t get it again.

>>9862977
The markup is too high for just customs

>>9862861
This is so sweet

>>9862977
AP Paris shouldn't buy AP clothes from Japan for the same price we pay and add taxes to that, they should pay a much lower price as retailers.

>>9862992
Add a profit as well then? I don’t think the markup is that high, Ap USA is similar.

>>9862995
>lower price as retailers
??
Do you mean “as low a price as” or “lower price than”?

>>9862953
Paris stores have always had such a high mark-up. For Baby it was the same. It’s cheaper to use a shopping service or Japanese address and mark down the price than to order through the Paris store.

>>9861520
I've only seen the film with Jeremy Irons in, and I guess it is easy to romanticise because it is rather beautiful and doesn't really depict the rape as insidious. Even when Lolita is in turmoil due to her mothers death and, y'know, being preyed on and being driven around half of america, it kind of shows her as a petulant child having a strop rather than anything realistic (but then I guess how are you supposed to interpret an unreliable narrator). Humbert is meant to be good looking (or at least considers himself good looking) and a lot of people have a hard time equating that an attractive person can be heinously depraved, so they see the film (or read the book and get taken in by the romantic language) and think that it's the ~forbidden romance~ trope you mentioned.

10 bucks says that if humbert was portrayed by someone unattractive, it would be way less romanticised.

>Or because Humbert's lies conveniently play into these people's kinks so they don't give a shit.
Whomp, there it is. The red pill. I wish it wasn't true, but for so many people it likely is.

>>9862800
That's rough anon. I had to pay £14 for a £30 coat. Like, that's almost half of it!
>still hurt from the time I bought from AP USA 2 years ago and had to pay £89 on just a dress and a headbow. kms

>>9859970
>>9862655
Thank you very much anons

>>9863004
>>9863004
I took the new Space Lollipop JSK as an example with today's exchange rate

price in Japan = 27.864 Yen
USA = 284 $ = 31.021 Yen = 11% mark up
Paris = 310 € = 41.248 Yen = 48% mark up

Noone can tell me that the tax and customs are so much more expensice that they have to sell the dresses for such a mark up.


>>9862995
They either pay a lower retailer price or they might even don't pay one at all since they work as an overseas branch

>>9863116
Clearly you have no idea how Europe works.

>>9862861
I loved reading through this. Mana makes my heart swell

>>9863116
Idk but in my country it's 12% VAT and iirc it's the same in all EU and on top of that 14% custom fees for clothes valued over 150€. Then if rent, shipping, domain fees and salaries are added it's not that much extra anymore. And desu it's not that much cheaper to get it from AP Japan because you will need to pay for forwarding, shipping and custom fees and tax anyway.

>>9863188
But you shouldn't add all those things to the original Japanese price, because they are official AP store they don't pay the same as we do when we buy it in Japan.

>>9862771
>My SS usually declares things as "secondhand clothing", does that count?
That should be fine

>Also do bags/shoes/jewelry also fall under that category?
Unfortunately they would not but it's possible that Customs won't examine your package closely. Check out the US Harmonized Tariff Schedule to get sense of potential fees.

>>9863192
Yes, I do get that. But if the importing of the clothing potentially costs (I'm not familiar with the custom fees of France) 12%+14% of the what ever price they get the dress from AP Japan that's roughly 36% of the mark up alone which explains the difference between Paris and USA. I'm fine with paying similar price as in AP Japan because I still get it a lot easier from AP Paris. And their sales have generally been worth it atleast for me.

>>9862515
I am the same way, it doesn't help that brands release the same fucking cuts over and over. The stuff I like is very unique from a few years back. I love unusual dress cuts, they seem to look so much better

>>9863134
Nobody explained the reason for the huge difference in the mark up yet so either explain it or keep quiet.


>>9863196
Shopping Service is roughly 5% + 4% Paypal fees + around 20€ more shipping than if I would pay from Paris. Of course you have to mark down the package so you don't have to pay tax+customs (yes it depends what country+city you live but when I order through Japonica Market and mark down my package, I have 99,99% guarantee that my package slips through customs). Then it IS cheaper to buy from Japan than from Paris.

The AP Paris store DOES have its advantages but I still find it overpriced (unless someone can explain me a good reason why it's not).

>>9861099
I've always been a bit nervous about Brightele because I've seen a few claims that they're a bit thin, but I might give them a try now. Do you know if their taobao shop is legit? I'd buy from their Rakuten but I'd rather throw it into my taobao haul if it's their actual wigs.

>>9861320
>>9861322
Is epic cosplay similar to Arda quality? And thanks for the fringe idea! I just hope my hairdresser would be willing and able to match my colour.

>>9863253
Epiccosplay is very similar in quality to Arda. Their fibres are shinier and tangle less than Arda's Classic line, but I think they’re about the same as the new Silky fibres.

I'm looking for cookie/biscuit/oreo/sandwich themed bags. Any suggestions other than this Swimmer biscuit bag?

>>9858298
Idk if you'll see this, but could one request which emblem detail they'd prefer in the note box? I really want one with crosses!

>>9863405
They pop up on lacemarket pretty frequently so if you're not in a hurry just stalk LM daily.

I need that teddy bear in my life.

>>9863499
This print is fantastic and I'm upset that AP just stuck it onto their usual boring cuts

>>9863499
Kind of lackluster for a Imai Kira imo

I hate how AP put it on such boring cuts and the doll bear is really odd. The macarons, cake, and tea pot look nice but I hate that fucking bear.

>>9863499
>>9863524

>>9863499
Why can't it be a cute Imai styled girl as a doll and not whatever that bear is? I'd also love this print if it didn't have it.

>>9863528
If AP makes this into a bag I will fight all of you for it

>>9863545
So excited for this! I already reserved a spot with my SS for the lav x sax OP. What is everyone else getting?

>>9863545
Anyone wanna take a guess at how high these will resell for?

>>9863516
Me too. I'm not sure if I'll try to grab it for that reason alone. Even the lace on the bodice of the JSK looks boring.

>>9863499
I desperately want to see the stock photos for the lav and black.

>>9863557
1k

AP should make a pastel rainbow misty sky.

>>9863545
Still not as pretty as Midnight, although I dig that it came out more realistic than basic blue colorway.

>>9863569
I'd like some holographic kind of color, we need more V A P O R W A V E L O L I T A :P

>>9863253
Honestly I'm working with a brand new Arda Classic right now and I gotta say >>9863362 is incorrect

I hadn't bought an Arda since before they switched to having Silky and Classic, and back then I would have said Arda had better fibers, but now? Nope. The Epic I bought two weeks ago kicks the shit out of the Arda Classic I bought between when I posted that and now, at least in terms of styling feel/weft coverage, etc. Not sure how they stack up in photography yet and I'll still occasionally buy Arda because I have a giant head, but idk man.

>>9863596
Oh and the Arda Classic is definitely shinier than the Epic, to human eyeballs at least. We'll see about photographs

>>9863547
The bear looks like it’s supoosed to be a vintage rubber faced toy, which do tend have a creepy vibe I think.

>>9863499
so is this getting released this saturday ?

i might try and grab it just for that damn bear, but that "ivory" colorway looks a little orange, might be hard to coord

>>9863596
>>9863598
>wearing cosplay wigs with lolita
>"i-it's a fashion not a costume!!!"

>>9863621
you know people wear wigs for health reasons right?

>>9863633
The vast majority of people wearing these wigs are not doing it for "health reasons".
Stop reaching.

>>9863635
You’re the one that’s reaching.
If everybody that wears lolita says it’s a fashion you don’t have any place to tell them otherwise.

>>9863636
Ah yes, wearing costume wigs with your OTT bullshit that you wear a few times a year to cons completely and totally supports the claim that this is a fashion.
Start cosplaying instead, this subculture isn't for you.

>>9863528
This is a rushton bear you retards it’s not some weird thing Imai Kira concocted

>>9863241

Just going to mention that marking down packages is illegal.

I can see your viewpoint that it's easy to do and get away with, but AP Paris is a business. They can't just go around breaking the laws because they feel like it, or because you want them to break the law for you. So they simply do not have the option to chose not to pay customs charges.

If it's cheaper for you to buy from Japan and get your SS to lie on the customs forms, then just do it.
That's a different thing from saying that AP Paris is somehow overcharging you, when the extra money is going towards paying for customs charges that they don't have the choice to not pay.

>>9863596
>>9863598
I bought an Arda wig last year and really liked the quality of the fibers (although it did tangle easily), so this makes me pretty confident in epic cosplay's quality, thank you! And thank you >>9863362 as well.

>>9863621
Imo wearing any wig, especially synthetic, with an outfit makes me feel like I'm wearing a costume, so being from a cosplay or lolita store (which typically also sells cosplay wigs or just similar quality) doesn't change much. I hate wigs, but my hair is stubborn as hell, so wigs it is.

>polite sage for me willingly replying to bait

>>9863670
I'm this anon >>9863621 and I'll admit it was a salty response but it wasn't meant to be bait.
I don't hate wigs, they do have their benefits and can be incredibly useful in many different ways; but wearing cosplay wigs in lolita is counterproductive. If you want to wear wigs, you should invest in high quality pieces, and I think it's funny to see anons comparing one cosplay wig store to another when both are obvious costume wigs and lower the quality of your coord.

>>9863658
But where is all the other money going to? I think AP Paris is more expensive because of the location and because AP doesn't know how to do international business.

>>9863691
Basically ap is just a franchise with independent owners and I'm not sure if you know anything about franchises but it can be expensive not only are they probably paying for the right to sell ap (yes that is a thing) they are paying for the dresses and the shipping to get them into the country plus any customs fees then they have to pay for the stores rent plus they must pay there employees and they probably have to buy the cute bags that everything goes in and it's not like ap has tons and tons of products in there store so in between actual dress releases they probably don't sell much so in the end yea the mark up sucks but it keeps the store open

>>9863691
This is a rough estimate but I didn't find the exact percents for French customs but VAT is 18,5% and custom fees 5,5-17%, 5,5% being necessities so 14% would be realistic. So let's pretend both AP Paris and AP USA keep the difference between the price they paid of the dress and the price they sell it for. AP USA has a total 11% mark up, AP Paris 48%. The taxes will be roughly 32,5% of the mark up alone. That's only 16% other mark up left, idk about import fees in USA and we don't know if there is a difference in shipping so I can't take those into account so we don't know how much of the 11% and 16% goes towards those things. However, the rent is definitely one factor as you said. Another would be the fact that it's a lot more costly to have a employee in Europe than it is in USA and besides the custom fees I believe it's the biggest factor in this. Again, not sure about France but in my country the employee costs about double their salary to employer. Europe just is more costly all over, it's a fact. Anyway, it's pretty hard to be sure about where the money actually goes but I don't believe AP Paris is overcharging or making any more profit than AP USA.

>>9863678
if you arent buying character specific wigs then these places should be fine. arda’s silky line is really good

>>9863699
>it keeps the store open
I don't really understand this part because most European lolitas buy from AP Japan. Also, Innocent World and Baby don't/didn't have as big a markup. Though Innocent World doesn't have the usual store costs.

>>9863722
Do IW have stores outside of Japan?

>>9863726
They are sold at a lolita shop in the Netherlands. You pay the same or nearly the same as you would if you bought it in Japan.

>>9863739
Yea but they are not a store dedicated to only selling innocent world so there are basically only paying to get the dress they probably make more money off of other items otherwise they'd probably be in the same situation

>>9863658
Where did I wrote that I expect AP to lie to customs?? I just said why it is cheaper to order from Japan than from the Paris store.

>>9863699
AP USA has to pay the stuff too, yet the mark-up is only 11%

>>9863776
AP USA doesn't have to pay European tariffs.

>>9863764
>they probably make more money off of other items
I doubt it t b h, they sell their own indie brand but I’ve never actually seen anyone wear one of their pieces except for accessories. Every time I’ve ordered from them it was for IW.

>>9863795
How high are the USA import tariffs?

>>9863821
Man I love moitie but I honestly want to slap wunderwelt in the face. Why do they keep rereleasing print main pieces that barely sell second hand? Give us our fucking socks already. I received a second hand pair with cotton lace topping and velveteen bows yesterday and I almost cried because the fabric was so sturdy yet comfy.

>>9863819
I'm looking it up now and it's so complicated compared to EU, they even list men/boys and women/girls clothes separately

>>9863825
What does wunderwelt have to do with it? Moitie and wunderwelt are both separate companies, with their own separate management.

>>9863819
>>9863827
If I got it right, it's 11.5% for cotton dresses.

>>9863825

Tanaqro.

I just imagine they had the files for this print easily found on whatever disk drives got handed over, while something like Iron Gate might have been deleted by accident or even purged on purpose years ago because it's old and they don't "need" it anymore. Anyway, apparently they're getting my money, because this print actually managed to sell out on reservation in some cuts and colours and the only one left was some colour I didn't want, by the time I figured out what the real sizing is.

Moitie stuff is beautiful but I'm really looking forward to having actual measurements instead of everything being an arbitrary "size 2".

>>9863833
Thank you! I tried to look it up myself but I couldn't find it. I also looked up the VAT and apparently it's 7,25-10,25% in California.

So 18,75% in the USA vs. 32,5% in France is indeed a considerable difference.

>>9863833
I don't understand why there are three categories but I'm seeing 14-65%

>>9863834
It's not like tamaqro completely manages moitie now, it's just one of many companies they own

>>9863833
>>9863840
So what is pic related?

>>9863840
I think France's might be closer to 40%. IIRC their VAT for non-essential products was something like 20%

>>9863828
I don't think you're right.

>>9863850
What indicates that wunderwelt and moitie are the same company besides some ignorant anons thinking tamaqro=wunderwelt

>>9863847
It's probably higher for wool/animal hair. Which lolita dresses rarely contain.

>>9858277
I was charged

>>9863848
Wtf? I pay 3% plus 21%, I thought it was around the same in all EU countries.

>>9863854
Okay but am I looking at the right document? 'Cause there's no 11.5%

>>9863860
I looked at this, but idk if the crotcheded/knitted thing matters - I'm not a native English speaker so this might be off otherwise too.

>>9863848
VAT France is 20%, EU customs for textiles is 12%

>>9863872
I always though textiles was 15-17% for some reason, never mind.

>>9863844

True, but there's some obvious and visible changes, such as starting up an FB and using polls to ask what customers really wanted. And listing real measurements, which like I said is the biggest deal for me.

Tamaqro might not be micromanaging the new Moitie, but I think these are all signs that after the buyout Tamaqro did at least shift some things around at the top management level. And just before the ownership change was announced some anon said Moitie was looking for a new designer as well, so it's possible nothing of old Moitie remains except Mana. I'm not making the mistake of equating new Moitie as Wunderwelt Gothic with Mana mascot, but there has been some visible changes, it's not quite same old business as usual for the brand.

So far I'm liking the new management -- they asked what we wanted, and they provided real measurements. Sleeping Garden was weird, but neo gothic arch did sell out in some cuts and colours, so the decision isn't as arbitrary as anons make it out to be. Now we just need to wait for a new release to see if their new designers can maintain the old Moitie style that we've loved from old Moitie.

>>9863828
>>9863834
I write wunderwelt because I didn't remember taqusgffjdfbg's name and everyone understands who I'm talking about anyway.

>>9863853
Because tamaqro IS Wunderwelt you dingus.

>>9863834
At the Q&A at Sak they said they lost the original files for Iron Gate so they can't rerelease it.

>>9863889
That mission statement makes me happy, I don't really like prints but I'm going to get this release to support them

Plus it's not like moitie is trendy and goes out of style

>>9863909

Ah, that sucks. I wonder if they could make a neo iron gate that's more similar to the original iron gate. Like the same way neo gothic arch was more similar to the original gothic arch.

Royal gate was just a completely different thing so it never really felt like it could fill iron gate's shoes.

>>9863853
>>9863889
I've just bought some things from them and the PayPal invoice came with "Tanaqro" (タナクロ) signature.

>>9863889
And Unilever IS Magnum, PepsiCo IS Doritos, Inditex IS Zara, etc.

>>9863889
>>9864017
Saying Moitie is managed by Wunderwelt is more like saying Bershka is managed by Zara

>>9863924
I think Royal Gate was supposed to be the neo Iron Gate

>>9863878
it's 0-12% to be exact

>>9863880
I think they kept the same staff but Moitie had been understaffed for a few years, and Mana always spend more time on his music than on Moitie. I've seen job ads for designer, graphic designer and pattern maker a long time before the take-over.

>>9863880
They don't have any designers at present and are still looking for one. That's why there's a lot of re-releases.

>>9864022
The first part of your comment made me laugh, his fans have been waiting years for a new CD. Moitié releases more stuff than Moi dix Mois plays concerts/releases songs.
But yeah, I think most staff members remained the same as well and those job adds have been up for a long time.
I only have the feeling that all the people in marketing are new/from wunderwelt. They have English speaking staff now, who are also very active on social media. (Just as like the staff from Wunderwelt and Alice Holic.) Which is a big change with how it was, also a positive one in my opinion.

>>9864062
Moitie hasn't released anything new for a long time, last time were those solids with a cross on the bodice if I remember correctly

>>9863545
Is that Aqua Symphony color? Looks cute tho.

>>9864128
That's from the original release, midnight.

>>9864136
>>9864128
diffanon but that looks a lot like lavender and not navy. I am inclined to think it's the newer release, lav to sax gradient

>>9864150
Let the confusion begin!

>>9864150
The ribbon at the collar is navy

>>9864150
I feel by looking at the collar it is the midnight colorway. The collar is more sheer white than the sheer blue. Also this photo was probably taken around the time Halloween treats was released, and the new gradients were probably made just recently. Just my 2c though.

>>9863657
It’s still fucking ugly

>>9864173
>>9864128
I don't know who she is or when halloween treats was released, but it's possible that she is wearing a sample that could have been available much earlier, with a slightly different colour or different colour ribbon. But I don't know if she has access to samples.

>>9864180
Yeah that solid navy ribbon is not the same as the original though.
But midnight colorway does look less navy than the photos irl, epically with filters and such.

>>9864183
I love their headdresses, they're so unpopular in my comm

>>9864150
It literally looks nothing like the new one. On the new one the lav and sax are about the same brightness, on this one it really obviously goes from dark to light

>>9863545
I actually prefer this new lav-sax one more than midnight, I love the softer gradient

It looks like it has dwarfism or is collecting fluid in it's head.