/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9850775
I think plastic surgery is fine, but lying about it is not. I'd like to have fillers for my top lip, forhead, and nasolabial folds, and that "non surgical" nose job where they use fillers to straighten out a nose. I'm in my early 20's though, and I feel like there isn't much point in me getting these done now since they wear off so fast. I'll probably do it as a 30th birthday present.

>>9850775
My face is kind of ugly, but I would never change anything about it. It makes me happy that my face starts to look more like my mothers as I get older. I want to have bigger boobs but I'm too frightened of that surgery, having silicones in my body, and the maintenance. I only want it so I can fit some burando better, so I can also just use a padded bra.

I get 40ccs of botox one a year ($350), to help with any wrinkles.
I am getting under eye filler ($600) as I am 30 now, and I have lost some fat under my eyes and my circles are hollowed out looking.
I am a cosplayer.
(pic is not me)

>>9850775
why do people want plastic surgery before they're like 50

is plastering your face with makeup not enough lies for you?

Plastic surgery cheapens the value of good genetics.

>>9850786
How did you get started on Botox? I understand fillers at 30 but Botox seems more heavy duty to me. I guess I associate it with older people than you.

>>9850798
I want to look cute without makeup too anon.

>>9850785
Gods looking like my mother is my worst nightmare. She's cute and barely wrinkly at 60, but she has a massive double chin despite being average weight. I can already see myself starting to get one and it terrifies me.

>>9850782
Are fillers a cure for nasolabial lines? How long does it last? I have suffered with them my entire life and while I'm nearing 25 I feel I look at least 30 because of them. I'm really self conscious about them and avoid lighting that shows them at all costs.

If there was a permanent way to get rid of them I'd shell out.

>>9850804
My mother has an ugly/average face too, but family is the most important thing in the world and I find it very interesting to watch the passage of time as I start to get wrinkles in exactly the same places.

>>9850801
I have wrinkles on my forehead and crows feet forming. So I get Botox once a year~ it instantly smoothes them out and relaxes the muscles.
Its controversial~ but they say it helps prevent wrinkles, as it keeps your muscles from developing the deep grooves over the years. Once you get it done once, its wonderful!
I know its not for everyone--but I love a yearly touch up!
I actually dont really wear makeup daily, I just wear makeup on the weekend.

>>9850799
people may buy replicas of gucci but the real thing is still extremely worshipped.

>>9850786
>>9850815
What country are you anons in? $350 to smooth out your face once a year seems cheap. I’m >>9850808 so nearing 25, is getting Botox at that age laughable or

>>9850808
>nasolabial lines
yes anon! Juvederm is what you should look into. It lasts from1 to 1.5 years.
And can cost around $500-$700. depending on where you live and how much is needed.
Just look up before and after photos.

>>9850786
>>9850815
You gulls have convinced me. I have fine lines on my forehead that annoy me to no end. I think I might go for botox or at the least, fillers. Does anyone recommend one over the other?

>>9850824
Jesus that's expensive though... Why can't any of these things last longer?

>>9850823
I live in the US. I know many anons aren't into this~ but for those of you nervous about getting anything simple like Botox and fillers (its so simple, doesn't really hurt<<fillers can make you a little sore for a couple days) and you actually get results.
If its something that really has made you self conscious and feel horrible for many years, I'd recommend it.
More people get it than it seems. Its just talked down about so much--its like your guilt tripped for it.

>>9850828
Botox for wrinkles. Juvederm for filler.
Forehead winkles and crows feet>>Botox.
Under eye circles,

>>9850832
**under eye circles and nasolabial lines>>Juvederm, aka fillers.
I didnt mean to post that early.

>>9850831
I'm US too, so I'm going to look into it. Thanks anon! I want these things gone. I have granny cheeks at the age of 24. Not kawaii

I heard Misako get's Botox. she never ages. kek

>>9850830
NAYRT, but most of these things have payment plans. You often don't have to pay the whole cost up front. Think of it as a subscription fee to stay pretty.

>>9850840
try Groupon for Juvaderm. I know that sounds weird. but it'll save you some money, and you can read reviews on the med spa you go to. I've never had a bad experience from using it!

I know Koreans are obsessed with plastic surgery. I think they lengths they go with it--is too much.
they look like a different person when they are done.

>>9850855
I bet that ad is two completely different people though.

>>9850855
Yeah, they all end up with the same tiny generic K-pop face.

>>9850855
>>9850871
It makes me sad because the kpop idols I loved as a teen are really ugly now from too much plastic surgery. One of them even lost his smile dimples. I'm not an expert but there are things that can make you look worse after a few years.

I know my mom aged poorly through the years. I think it's more of a symptom of working night shifts for 20 years. It seems my lil bro and I still have a very youthful appearance despite our ages. I would be open to getting Botox since some of you gulls have pointed out how afforable it is. However I think having a good sleep schedule is a big part on how someone ages, but for a lot of people that's something they can't help.

>>9850883
Really, who? I only got into kpop 5 years ago, and while I’d be obsessed with songs I wouldn’t follow idols themselves, so I haven’t gotten to see them age...

Getting a nose job was the best decision I've made in a long time. If there's something you don't like about yourself, you should change it.

>>9850775
I've had my nose done and I am really happy about that. A lot of people are afraid about the recovery and pain but my experience was pretty smooth and lots of people I talked to experienced close to no pain. Bruising was bad though and being clogged and dizzy from the meds for one week is annoying. Still totally worth it.

I think having flaws makes you more approachable. If only it was possible to make my shoulder width smaller.. so I could fit into MILK.

>Do any of you get plastic surgery?
Undereye fillers, masseter and frown/forehead line botox. Probably not gonna get the fillers again, I had 2cc restylane and a lot of trouble with movement since I sleep on my face. Botox was awesome though and I want to get it again.
>What hobby are you in- lolita or cosplay?
Lolita
>What have you had done, and how much have you paid out to improve your look?
As above, it was about $800 all up but I was in Taiwan which is much cheaper. I'd pay for botox again 100%
>Do you think plastic surgery is ok, or a definite no.
Risk of GA and complications definitely puts me off actual surgery, but I'd consider it depending on what I'm bothered by

>>9850801
yeah but
why go through the lie in the first place
Imagine if robots went through plastic surgery en masse
you'd probably be strangely put off, too.

>>9850957
as in it's just fake.

>>9850775
Somewhat off topic, but I had a look again at koti’s insta after almost 2 years and she looks completely different.

Did she get plastic surgery? Did she admitted to it? Do we know what she had done exactly?

>>9851060
She changed the way that she did her photoshop and make up

>>9851064
Have tastes in glorious nippon changed from doe-eyed Lolita to edgy elf?

>>9850775
Anyone know a cream to make my face a little lighter or white? I have an area on my right side by nose thats red. Looks like sunspots and I can't get it to go away.

>>9850775
It's okay if you're ugly to get surgery, but I think average looking people should just learn to love themselves more.

>>9850897
How bad was your nose?

>>9851060
She has serious body image issues. You can see her real face in some videos. Just lurk PULL a bit.

I desperately need a breast reduction and lift. I've considered getting fillers in my top lip.
I would also consider getting lipo or some sort of sculpting procedure (i know nothing about that area of plastic surgery) to deal with a certain fat deposit area. It's not the size that bothers me because I can lose weight, but its the actual shape of my body. Can't change it with excercise.

I want a boob job but I want them to look and feel natural

where the fuck do I even?

I am so flat chested that wearing a bra is pointless

>>9851220
Accept you glorious chest.

>>9851220
I have the opposite problem. Take some of my boob fat and put it in yours. Share the wealth.

>>9851220
But having small boobs is nice.

I had a boob reduction because I was tired of having to have my lolita dresses altered to fit my bust. Went from a DD to a C cup. Fells soo much better to be able to buy a jsk that isn’t almost all shirred and not have back pain any more. Best decision of my life.

Has anyone ever gotten lipo/kybella/whatever else there might be to help with a genetic fatty underchin or double chin? It's a minor thing that sounds like it's expensive to get done relative to how overall it's not that bad of a facial problem compared to others. I'm of a healthy skinny weight but just have that hereditary under chin fat and excess skin around my neck. It drives me crazy sometimes how I have to carefully angle my face in pictures to avoid the double chin or the fullness poking out, how it makes my face look even longer and fat, how I don't have that cute slender chin. If anyone has gotten it done did it boost your confidence and last?

>>9851263
FWIW anon you can mitigate this both temporarily (by putting your tongue against the roof of your mouth for pics) and long term (by getting a neckline exerciser) without surgery, but that assumes it's not super severe.

>>9851269
The tongue trick does move up some fat in the junction of my jaw to the neck, but it doesn't help with the actual fat under my chin unfortunately. But huh, neck excersise actually works? I always assumed it was one of those tricks that relies on placebo and doesn't actually work, like those chin strap things from Asia, maybe I'll give it more of a look then.

>>9851273
Related to this, does anyone know face exercises that are proven to work for them? Maybe that would reduce my granny cheeks.

>>9851201
After seeing some of the selfposts on here and tumblr, I think some people should learn to love themselves less and love honest objectivity more.

>>9851220
There's a jvlogger with implants who got natural looking ones that I like. Check out Bronwyn from biibiibeauty.

I have small boobs, and while I like mine for the most part, I wouldn't mind maybe a little bigger since I have trouble filling out some of my JSKs. But having small boobs is lovely for sack dresses and I'm pretty small overall.

Other than that, I'd like a chin implant. I read that you can also try getting fillers for a better profile. Anyone know about that? I try contacting my local place who does fillers and such but they never got back to me. I'd LOVE to get fillers in my chin to see if I like the look before committing to any surgery.

>>9851283
>tfw using flattering angles and SNOW to make myself prettier

I don't really look like that, sorry anon.

>>9851286
Literally no idea what you're talking about, but you sound very triggered for someone who ~~loves themselves~~

>>9851302
Are you fucking retarded
It's pretty obvious >>9851286 and >>9851201 aren't the same person

>>9851303
Take a xanax and stop embarrassing yourself Quasimodo-chan

>>9851312
>tfw that was my first post in the thread and I'm objectively pretty
No need to project. I can understand though, it must suck being both ugly and mentally ill

>>9850918
>shoulder shrinking
I wouldn’t mind that at all being tall, below avg weight, and megashoulders. I just wanna wear cute clothes

>>9851370
>objectively pretty
That’s what they all say.

>>9851378
Not using the superior image
>t.crossboarder

>>9851381
I’m not a lolitafag but saving anyways, ty anon

Been thinking about getting my front teeth shaved/contoured. I always knew they were a little bigger than normal and one of them sits in a slight angle so in pictures they look kinda weird. The bottom of the front teeth are also not "smooth". It never really bothered me too much until I recently decided to do a quick rough edit oh an app after taking a photo and wow they look so much better just shortening evening out the bottom. I looked into it online and apparently it's a pretty simple procedure that doesn't cost too much.

Anybody with experience in cosmetic dental surgeries?
My teeth were never bad enough to need braces or anything so anything beyond getting my teeth cleaned and cavities filled is pretty new to me.

>>9851430
Are you this girl?

>>9850855
>Yumi King
this bitch needs a psych eval, not plastic surgery.

>>9851454
Why tho

>>9851430
the smell of getting your teeth shaved is one of the worst smells

>>9851445
No, either her front teeth are bigger than mine or the rest of my teeth are bigger than the rest of her teeth. Basically our front teeth to other teeth proportions are different.

She also looks like she has more of an overbite? I don't really have that.

1.) Yes
2.) Both lolita and cosplay
3.) Two double eyelid surgeries (second was a correction, different surgery), total around $10,000 USD
4.) It is OK. It is a lot like make up but permanent. I see nothing wrong with it.

>>9851497
Where did you get your surgery done and what was recovery like for you? Did you have fatty eyelids? I've been on a research marathon, so I'd love to know a gull's account

I'm a lolita, I'd like to get lipo on my gut and upper arms, but I probably never will. I understand surgery to remove things from the body (jaw shaving, nose job, lipo, etc) but will never get how people can be comfortable with foreign objects being put in them (boob jobs, lip fillers, etc). I've heard so many horror stories and honestly the thought of walking around with that under my skin creeps me out so much. Also the thought of having to pay every year for maintenance terrifies me.

>>9850775
Saving for SRS, FFS, VFS. I will probably need some $50~80k. Being born intersex sucks, but at least I can be grateful for not having much harm done to me while I was younger. Gotta be thankful to transgirls for being a training material for surgeons.
>Do you think plastic surgery is ok, or a definite no.
As long as it's corrective, it's fine. Putting silicon/implants anywhere in the body is a no for me, though. Obsessing over one's appearance is a mental disorder, when your looks do not affect your life in overly negative way.

I'm not a huge fan of plastic surgery, but if I were given a bunch of money I'd get some loose skin fixed up - I ballooned from 50kg to 90kg when I hit puberty and back down to 60kg in the span of 18 months.. So I have a bit of loose skin under my arms, boobs, stomach and chin/jowls. The only parts that really annoy me at the underarms and neck/jowls, because I know that they will get much worse with age.

I'm only 23 and a lot of people are confused by my age - apparently people assume that I'm 30+ and just look extremely young because of the way that I carry myself. I don't know how to feel about that one to be desu.

>>9851430
Also interested in this. My front teeth are pretty big but still within a normal range but they're really prone to chipping... When I switched dentists the first thing the new one asked me was if I'd ever been in an accident lmao. The bottom edge is all fucked up and I'd like to have them smoothed out.

>>9851463
I feel this. Had to get lots of dental work and drilling done over the years.

>>9850775
Yep, I plan on getting double eyelid surgery and a rhinoplasty (want my bulbous tip reduced and nostrils closed), something like pic related

Is there a way to gain fat in the under eye area? I lost a lot of weight, and now my eye sockets look a bit sunken in. Do they do fat transfers there?

Theonly cosmetics work i want done is to fix my teeth. Im losing 5 right now and im only 24 so yeah. Its a real point of self hate for me.
>>9850891
Alot of idols. One ofmy favorite Luna got it so much it fucking ruined her face to me.
Its pretty easy to see who got work done as they all look like OP's pic.

>>9851445
I think her bunny teeth are adorable

>>9851220
They will never feel natural

>>9851558
Don't fat injections achieve a pretty natural softness/shape ?

>>9851533
Yup you can do fat transfer there. Depending on how close to your actual eye is you could try fillers first...

>>9851508
They have a new noninvasive liposuction now anon. It's much cheaper than the traditional surgery.

>>9851263
I looked into kybella. It is kinda pricey but it does work. Also it can take a couple treatments. I have been doing lower jaw exercises and it helps.

I’ve had a few small things done to my eyes and lids but it’s probably the only surgical thing I’ll do until I shit out some kids.

Gonna get some filler in my vermillion line next month tho and I’m super excited. I don’t think I need bigger or fuller lips but I wanna see how it looks and it’s not permanent Incase I hate it.

>>9851533
I'm getting fillers done today under my eyes anon. I will post before and after photos in a couple days after the swelling subsides.

>>9851527
I can understand double eyelid surgery, but the girl in the pic's nose looked so much better before...

I always thinked that unless it was corrective plastic surgery from accident/ loose skin after weight lose plastic surgery or breast reduction, it was not the answer.

I remember a girl who told that she believed she was adopted until her mom confess to her later that she had a nose job . Thinking that my children/ other younger members of my family will feel weird/ ugly because they don't look like me/ have the "ugly" things I had . Even for wrinkles or aging traits ,

I don't want my friends to feel less young than me because they didn't had surgery and feel pressured to have one, and I prefer to use skincare to not risk to have shitty side effect ( migration of product ) or allergie, trying to age " gracefully".

As a cosplayer it also mean not being as versatile as I like. As a child I always wanted to have a breast implants and a nose job but for crossplay it just make thing impossible/ more difficult .

>>9851460
literally watch any of her youtube videos. she needs serious help.

>>9851612
Honestly while money is one reason, seeing people like Momokun has really scared me out of it. Her body is totally deformed and her proportions are freakish because of her lipo, I'm so scared that would be me.

>>9851788
Momokun looks lumpy and deformed because she gets lipo every 3 months, which is far more often than she or any other person should be getting a procedure like that.

>>9851612
Yeah, it’s called go exercise and diet.

>>9851508
Coolsculpt isn't too bad, you can't go as dramatic as you can with lipo but definitely seen reasonably fit/active friends who did well with it for the "stubborn"fat

>>9851513
My dentists had never mentioned anything about them that I thought they were pretty normal and I thought they would for reason even out by themselves somehow lol. Now that I'm in my 20s I realize this will never happen so I'm thinking of inquiring about it at my next trip to the dentist.

I had a rhinoplasty and chin implant a month ago, it was 7 grand GBP. I'm a LOT happier with my face now, I don't look like Angelina jolie but i look normal and feel not ashamed going outside.

Personally I think if you want a change that badly and there's nothing else you can do, go for it. You have one life so why live it hating yourself. I agree with other anons that you shouldn't lie about it though

>>9851986
What kind of rhinoplasty did you have?
How was the recovery?

>>9851988
He filed down the hump, reshaped the tip, reduced the projection and raised the tip. In a perfect world he'd make it a tiny little button nose but that's extremely unrealistic because I had a very large nose before. The recovery for my nose was pretty much fine, just like having a cold. It was my chin that caused me to have a kinda shitty recovery.

>>9851986
Had a rhinoplasty a few years ago and I feel the same way. I never liked my hooked nose, and now I'm much happier with my face. It's made a pretty big difference in my life.

So many people try to force self-acceptance, but it's really not anyone's business but yours (and they've probably already made up their mind to be against it). Why spend your whole life unhappy with how you look if making a simple change can help you? It's a good thing and a non-issue to me if you're doing it for yourself.

>>9851988
Chiming in if you're interested: I had the hump shaved down and the bridge made narrower. It was uncomfortable the first couple days (pain and trouble breathing through my nose). I felt pretty good within a week, and the bruising was gone within two.

>>9850775
Both jaws broken and corrected for a severe bite. Lolita and cosplay. Paid nothing because it was so severe the government did it. Thinking of getting botox and skin resurfacing It's okay. Just do what you want - your body, your money. Just be prepared, as mentioned already, to explain to your future children.

I don't particularly like my face, but it can look surprisingly pretty in some angles and photos, so I don't want to risk fucking it up.
That said, I desperately need a breast lift. I'd gladly take the surgery scars over what I have now.
Also, not surgery, but I'm considering taking glutathione pills or IV shots to make my skin paler. I actually like my golden brown skin, but I really want to wear pastel pinks without my skintone clashing. I'm just scared it could make me too pale, I don't want to be Casper-tier.

>>9852028
Do the pills first, that way you can see how much effect it has on you.

>>9852019
I totally agree, I'm glad your rhinoplasty also changed your life. I feel like some people's opposition to surgery is just projecting their own insecurities.

>>9852028
Be careful anon, I've heard lots of bad things about pills changing your skin colour. Have you tried wearing 50spf on your skin? I had much darker olive skin a few years ago but I've been wearing sunblock and it's much paler. Still olive but lighter in shade. Also, I don't think pastel pinks clash with golden skin, if anything it compliments it.

If I had the money I would definitely get a nosejob and some sort of arms reduction. Even if I'm avarerage pretty and my nose seems not to call that much of other people's attention I've hated the shape of it since always and my family has this fat arms issue while even if I'm thin, my arms looks like those of a slightly overweight person and it both looks ugly and makes fitting in some lolita OP's and blouses a big pain in the ass.

When I was younger I 100% would have said yes to plastic surgery, but getting a little older has made me like myself a little more. I also look at plastic surgery more realistically - I think a lot of people look at plastic surgery as magic, but it really isn't. There are limits to what you can achieve with your face. I had to accept even with plastic surgery I still wouldn't have the "kind" of face I wanted (a cute button nose just wouldn't work on me) so I started to try liking mine more.

That being said, I'd never begrudge someone for surgery and I think it can be an amazing thing. Maybe one day if I have the money I'll get fillers lol but I'm trying to prevent as much damage as possible by loading up on daily sunscreen.

>>9850775
I feel like when people think of Korean plastic surgery they think of girls like pic related. or OP's pic. That kind of look may have been a trend in Korea in the past, but now it's more about looking as natural as possible, which also means it's more of enhancing features than changing them entirely.

I actually just got back from getting my eyes and nose done in Gangnam a few weeks ago. I cosplay and it's made putting on makeup and feeling cute a lot easier. My results came out completely natural to the point where even my close friends couldn't tell exactly what I had done.

>>9850855
>Koreans are soo obsessed with surgery they always look completely different!
I always hear people say this. Surgery is common in Korea, but what people don't realize is that the stats also include skin treatments which contributes to the high percentage. Most Koreans are only getting double eyelid surgery, not changing their whole face. Looking at the drastic changes like the TV show in your pic are a novelty in Korea, which is why it's a show in the first place. Actually, most of the girls in Korea who were getting a lot of work done and wanted big changes were Chinese medical tourists kek

I have a jaw surgery coming up in a week and a half to fix a serious underbite. The bottom is the main part getting fixed but the top might have to get moved as well, unfortunately, braces couldn’t fix the problem I had so it was recommended that I get this done.

I’ve been waiting for this for years now but now that I have a date set, I’m a bit nervous and praying that recovery won’t be too harsh.

>>9850804
No one will care what you look like at 60 unless you get world class surgery that actually can make you look good at that age.

>>9851220
I feel you anon. I've been stuck buying ugly bras from the juniors section for years. I'm not sure it's worth it, though since I'd only want to go up to a b cup.

Is it ever a good idea to opt for plastic surgery when you have BDD? I’ve been going outside in medical masks for the past year and a half, finally decided to save up and try fillers this summer to see how it affects me mentally. I’m afraid major changes in my facial structure might make things worse.

>>9852207
I have BDD too and I've tried my best to avoid it because I know i'll end up wanting to tweak literally everything and I don't want to be addicted to plastic surgery and look like d versace

>>9851990
>>9852019
Thanks anons! I’m considering getting my tip lifted and reshaped, and possibly getting the alars reduced by a couple mm off each side. This helps a lot!

>>9850798
Well for me, I don’t normally wear makeup besides sunscreen/brow tint, but have gotten 2 nose jobs.
>Had hump in my nose starting in ~4th grade
>now post-college working as a chemist
>Start passing out from pressure of safety goggles on my nose
>Spend an assload of time trying to convince doctors there’s something wrong
>Agree to just call it a nose job
>Doctor finds superball-sized tumor under my nasal bone
>spends all the time for nosejob removing tumor/keeping me from bleeding to death
>still claims he performed complete nose job and my nose was “just swollen”
>Subjected to monthly cortisone shots/needle scrapings to “remove scar tissue”
>7 months in, realize there’s a dime-sized septal perforation in my nose
>”Scar Tissue” was actually my nose collapsing
>Dr refuses to fix it, claim nose is fine
>Go find Dr that specializes in perforations
>Absolute sweetheart, immediately sees what’s wrong with my nose
>~8hr surgery to repair my nose, needed cartilage grafts from my scalp
>Dr#2 mentions Dr #1 didn’t even fix my bone that was misaligned due to the tumor, probably the reason I was still in pain
> Now ~1yr after surgery #2, nose looks perfect; comparable to the nose I would have had sans-tumor
>$14k later and 2 years of my life later

Trust your gut, gulls

>>9852236
Blog-posting aside, yeah having my nose done both possibly saved my life and has completely changed my life. I feel a lot more at peace now with my face. And if my future children start showing signs of a hump I’m getting that shit fixed fast so they don’t have to go through what I did:it’s comparable to braces for me in a social contex.
Tl;Dr my hatred of my nose was actually justified

Surprised this thread is still up, these have almost always been deleted in the past.

Anyway, I'm 100% for plastic surgery and fillers. If it makes you happier with your face and appearance and you got the funds, then do it.
I've hated my nose ever since I was a child, it's not super bad but it has a slight hump on the bridge. Getting a nose job is my dream, but I've decided to try fillers first to straighten it up first. I'm doing my masters atm and once I graduate and get a permanent job the fillers are the first thing I'm getting. If the results are good I'm probably getting my lips filled up a bit just to balance my face out.

I think some surgeries and fillers are fine to get while you're young, like nose fillers or others that alter the shape of your features. If you're unhappy with something in yourself, why wait until a certain age and suffer with poor self-esteem? Wrinkle-reduction, face-lifts and other anti-aging procedures obviously come later on.

i dont get why people would want bigger boobs, its already a pain and struggle to dance and jump around in them, let alone bend over to pick something up. plus now adays there's a bunch of tutorials on how to make your boobs look big for cosplays

>>9852207
Backing up what other anon said. Don't go for it, you will get addicted, even if you promise to do this one thing only.
Accept yourself the way you are, that you are imperfect.
Once you get over your BDD, live with yourself happily for a while, you can consider surgery to improve your life.

I might have BDD, but I won't be getting any surgeries until I get done with other things with my life. And even then, I want to change as little as possible to improve my quality of life. I have Roman nose and it gives me a lot of insecurity, so I know for sure it's something I will get done at some point in time.

>>9852319
They like how bigger boobs look.

>>9852028
I feel this. Other people think my nose/ face is weird, but I have started to like it as I get older. If/when I get work done, I would want to keep the bump on my nose and relatively large size, it has character and looks refined and cool to me. Just wish it were straighter, I definitely look bad in some angles and cute in others

>>9850775
I've considered a chin implant because I have a weak chin, but I don't want to accidentally end up looking too masculine. Since losing weight I don't have the threat of double chin looming, so I might just deal.

I am considering coolsculpting or lipo on my thighs.

>>9852319
You could have the chest of a 10 year old boy. Cleavage without having to tape my tits together would be nice

Fillers seem like a bad idea, they can shift position and can even cause blindness if in the eye areas.

At least thats what a doctor in my office said.

>>9852560
I've had a chin implant because I had a very weak chin. You WILL look more masculine, it's just what happens when you increase anyone's chin size. But that will balance out your face, should you have a weak chin. I'm not saying have it done, surgery is a last resort, but lots of people don't realise that the "masculinity" a larger chin brings is unavoidable. You won't necessarily look like a man, but you would have to come to terms with the fact that it's bigger. So many people get them, expect to look better but not more manly, and get freaked out that their chin is in fact.. bigger. Look at the most "beautiful" women in the world though, almost all have actually quite prominent chins. Bordering on "masculine" sometimes.

>>9852861
>>9852560
I came off kinda preachy here but I didn't mean to. I also know that feel of having a weak chin lmao, I've just seen lots of people believing an implant makes you manly.

>>9852231
No problem anon, I hope it all goes well for you.

>>9852560
>>9852861
Just from a different perspective, the chin implant hasn't actually made my face more masculine. My doctor used a smaller implant so my chin is still a little weak and not as far up as my upper lip, but that made it so it didn't look manly and it's not really prominent.

>Do any of you get plastic surgery?
I'm considering a breast reduction or augmentation of some kind, while I'm only 20 and probably a b cup on one boob, the other is closer to a d cup, and frankly it stressed me out.
>What hobby are you in- lolita or cosplay?
Cosplay and some general jfashion dailywear like himekaji and mori, I have a few lolita pieces but it isn't my main hobby.
>Do you think plastic surgery is ok, or a definite no.
I think it's fine if you don't lie about it when asked, but at the same time I can somewhat understand why people don't bring up specific surgeries + what work theyve gotten done

>>9852985
Yeah, a small implant and fillers won't make much difference. I suppose I see it a lot more in large implants, like mine. I had a very weak chin, and a large implant. It looks fine now but it took some getting used to. I more mean that upping the size of your chin by nature is just strange and can be jarring. Even though it still could be considered a small chin, I still catch glimpses of myself in shop windows and think .. weird

How do you all feel about more invasive surgery like jaw/chin shaving? I've hated my chin my whole life, and I have small lips, so the combination makes the bottom half of my face weird and ugly. has anyone done it?

>Do any of you get plastic surgery?
Haven't gotten any yet, but definitely interested.
>What hobby are you in- lolita or cosplay?
I used to cosplay more, but now it's more lolita. I still try to keep up with both.
>What have you had done, and how much have you paid out to improve your look?
$0.00
>Do you think plastic surgery is ok, or a definite no.
Yeah it's ok. Why wouldn't it be? I don't care. I worry about the pressure some people who make money off their image feel about whether or not to change their looks, but at the end of the day, it's their decision.
I'm so glad that people are discussing chin implants in here. I've got a sort of weak chin and I wish my forehead were smoother, so I have been considering fillers since I don't need a drastic change. Has anyone else gotten fillers? How did you feel about your results?

Also, for people in western countries, did you encounter any differences in aesthetic preference when dealing with a western aesthetician? (for example, I want more of a V-line, but I don't know if people in my country would know wtf I mean.)

I want big fat fake tits and I hope to get them this year. I don't think other plastic surgery is a bad idea at all, especially skin treatments and stuff like botox. Thanks to money you don't have to be ugly or older-looking, I'd say that's a fair trade and nothing to be ashamed of.

Yes, I have plastic surgery; non-incision double eyelid surgery, and ptosis correction (which actually made a bigger difference since I went with a more subtle fold. It fixed my 'sleepy' looking eyes, made them look bigger and more alert, and allowed me to keep my fold small).
I'm into both lolita and cosplay.
My eye stuff cost maybe around $2000 or a little less ($1800?). South Korea procedure was so inexpensive! The same stuff would have been around 4-5k PER EYE in the US.
Plastic surgery is a-ok. It's your life, do what you want. Pay for your own surgery and remember that most is not reversible. Omission is fine, but try not to lie directly about it if anyone asks and you decide to share.

I want to get my weak chin aligned and jaw shaving done too, and my quote was only like $10,000, which is so much less than the states. I keep swinging back and forth on deciding if surgery that major will help my enjoyment of life or not. I think I look fine from the front, it's just my side profile that's sort of ugly. :(

>>9851430
I've also gone through a round of orthodontics. I have big front teeth (thanks dad) and my orthodontist did just a little bit of 'aesthetic shaping' on my last visit. Definitely helped balance out my face a lot when they did, and they only took off maybe a mm or less and rounded out the edges just a smidge. They still look just like my own teeth, but just more balanced!

If you've got a tooth at an angle though, I'd probably recommend a round of orthodontics to align everything before you get any shaping done.

>>9852147
I threw up the night I woke up from the blood going into my stomach. Just make sure you don't move around too much after. The swelling is crazy but honestly worth it. Jelly, custard and lots of ice packs are your friends.

>>9852861
> " you WILL look more masculin "
now I'm visualizing girl waking up with funky cops chins

I just found out the other day that’s Danielle Baloo has had work done. Love or hate her, you gotta respect that she’s at least not lying about it.

>>9852566
I have really small tits ( less than A cup ), probably like you, and I bought a really high quality uplift bra ( pic related ) and it make a cleavage like I never had ! The brand I have is Piege lingerie . Honestly if you never tried those type of bra, I would recommend it.

>>9852130
Me and my mom have the arm stuff you have, when my mom did gym 3 time per week she didn't had them, I'm trying to get rid of them by doing sport. If you want to have a arm reductions, please choose a good surgeon ( even if it's the same for every surgery )

>>9852566
I got implants to go from an AA cup didn't-even-have-enough-to-tape-together to a C and they looked great. After a few years I started feeling really self-conscious about them and had them removed. It was an interesting experiment though and it was fun to have boobs for a few years.

>>9855208
Wouldn't pads be better?

Small tiddy Fat ass > Small ass Big tiddy

>>9855159
That's honestly how I felt after having a chin implant. It looks normal to me now but it was really strange looking at myself at first lol.

>>9855220
It's not what you have, it's how you use them!

>>9855229
>it's not what you have
Unless what you have is a fat ass then hmu

>>9855136
Vomiting is one of my worst fears but my doctor said they were going to give me anti-nausea medicine and I figured I’d be too out of it to want to move out of bed.

I’m dreading the swelling but I’m going to try to ice as much as possible and walk around the house so I’m not a major couch potato. Any foods you can recommend that I could blend up and eat easily?

>t-minus one week from surgery and not so nervous anymore

Just fyi, my sister got cool sculpting and she said it was horrifically painful, like the worst thing she’s ever felt. I don’t know if that’s the general consensus or not, that’s just her experience. Saw a lot of anons considering it and thought I’d give a heads up.

got under eye filler done--it did not hurt at all. It was laughable actually. (but my Dr did a technique where they insert the filler right by my eye--like photo.|) I had zero bruising, and I will definitely get it again! I highly recommend it. it made my under eye bags disappear and I look younger.

>>9855216
I got sick of looking in the mirror and seeing a prepubescent girl who was pushing 30. It had nothing to do with how I looked to other people.

Has anyone ever gotten fillers for nasobial folds?

i've always wanted lip injections, but when/if i ever make it, i want to go to korea for a plastic surgery consultation. my goal is for them to tell me what is wrong with my face and i'll basically get whatever they say if i agree.

>>9855915
Are you Korean? I wouldn't take a non-asian face to an Asian surgeon who only ever worked on Asians.

>>9854917
How did you find your surgeon anon? I'm not sure of what Dr finder to use but I'd like to have my nose straightened in Korea as I've heard the price differences are worth the journey.

>>9851535
>no specifics
post a pic or shut the fuck up

I'm terrified of doctors but I've considered a chin reduction (chin is a bit bulb-y, family genetics) or a nose reduction (button/irish nose but I'd like it narrow and slim if possible, like the french nose), I'd probably go to a korean doctor if I decided to because US plastic surgery looks terrible.
I've also had a lot of moles removed including one from my face and I regret nothing. There's a small white scar but it's fading (year later) and my skin is so pale it's hard to see anyway. Still 10000x better than a mole. I used to have a lot of skin tags as well (like miniature moles) and I snipped them all off myself with some sterilized nail clippers. Found one on my armpit the other day and snipped it off. I'm at high risk for skin cancer probably, fucking genetics.
I have eyesight so terrible that even slim-material glasses still end up really thick, and I can't wear contacts (just too bad of eyesight.) I don't think there's actually anything that can be done about it; even surgeries are only recommended for under a certain correction and I'm well over the safe limit. I hate wearing glasses but I don't see a choice.
>>9851430
One of my front teeth is longer than the other. It's annoying but not super noticeable at least. Didn't know this was a thing. I hate dentists but man might be worth it. I had discoloration (brown streaks, my teeth are chemically fucked up from medication I had as a child) and I managed to scrape it off myself using metal tweezers, patience, and daring. Zero regrets, fuck enamel. Now I need to grab those whitening strips because I have bleach white splotches on my teeth (also due to the medication) that can only be hidden by making the rest of my teeth whiter. I guess it isn't surgery, but my teeth are already really sensitive so it will be hell.

>>9857126
>I guess it isn't surgery, but my teeth are already really sensitive so it will be hell.

No points as to guessing why, jfc you could have really wrecked your teeth.

>>9857128
Scraping the brown stuff off? well they were already sensitive before that. I went as lightly as possible. But man it's just, I had to. It's only on my front teeth. They still feel glossy so I think the enamel is okay, I also use special enamel building tooth care products that might help restore it. What else could I do, walk around with brown stains on my front teeth the rest of my life?

GULLS please do not jump right into spending an assload on fillers and shit. It's not hard for them to fuck up and make you look fucking weird.

Honestly I recommend everyone in their early 20s add a prescription strength retinoid to their skincare routine. This will take care of fine lines and prevent more from appearing. Even Differin, which is sold OTC in the US now, can help with fine lines (though not nearly as well as retin-a).

>>9857160
>What else could I do, walk around with brown stains on my front teeth the rest of my life?

Uhm... Get caps? Go see a fucking dentist? Your teeth are gonna look like shit all over again really soon if you seriously scraped off a bunch of enamel and sensitized your teeth. Honestly don't even THINK about whitening. You're going to experience immense discomfort and destroy what's left of the enamel.

>>9857180
>Honestly don't even THINK about whitening. You're going to experience immense discomfort and destroy what's left of the enamel.
Not sure if want. A dentistanon on another board told me what I did was essentially microabrasion (I think was the word) which is something dentists do sometimes perform. I mean, when you go to the dentist they have a pick they use to scrape off the plaque do they not? Same concept.
But...I think I'll put off whitening strips for a while. Don't want. Fucking teeth mang. But if the brown stuff comes back it's getting the scrapey scrape again.
>caps
So instead of me scraping off some of the enamel, the dentist removes all the fucking enamel and shaves the teeth surface down a measurable width to glue fake surface on top of. Yeah? Half the shit dentists do hurts you more than helps.

>>9857260
>when you go to the dentist they have a pick they use to scrape off the plaque do they not
Except they're trained professionals and you're not. You (hopefully) wouldn't go in and perform surgical stitches on yourself even though the concept is the same as sewing. Also stains on your teeth aren't the same as plaque.

>>9857266
I mean, I've done minor surgery like draining a cyst or cleaning a deep wound on myself. When in doubt dump rubbing alcohol on it, if it hurts that's a good sign. I was gentle and only took off what was needed. It's been about two months and the stains haven't come back. I am using a remineralizing agent (calcium carbonate) daily.
If you had ugly stains on your teeth but couldn't afford a dentist wouldn't you do the same? Man it was embarrassing. I'll skip the whitening strips until I learn more about potential effects, but as far as scrapey scrape I regret nothing.

>>9850785
Anon if you'd like, there's a type of Japanese surgery where they add fat instead of silicones. Maybe look into that?

>>9857271
you've gotta be a dude to be this confidently reckless

>>9850959
"robots" why r u here

>>9857271
10/10 foolish male who does things with no regards to potential consequences

>>9857180
Not from US so wouldn't be able to get it OTC. However I'm 24 now and keen to get started. What age did you get prescribed, and did your doctor make it difficult for you to get it?
I've been to docs for other superficial concerns (acne, mild hirsutism) and they just wave me away and tell me I'm being too self conscious without prescribing me for anything that I actually have visibly occuring to me...

>>9857469
>>9857275
I'm female.

>>9851220
Look at fat transfer to your breasts. The results are great.

>>9852236
Anon that sounds like medical negligence on the doctor's part...

I want a nose job so bad, I have a jewish potato nose and I hate it. I also have a weak chin but having surgery on that scares me more. No idea how i'd afford it though and my parents would be against it so I guess I'll just hate myself forever.

My face is really square and manly(I am not a man). I'd really like to get some kind of cheekbone/jaw reduction so I can have a soft round face but the idea of having my skull shaved is kind of terrifying.
I also need a boob job. I lost 100 pounds and now my tits are all sad and saggy and deflated. But I'm not sure if I should just get a lift or some kind of implant too.

>>9850798
They want to be IG famous anon.

>>9851201
most normies don't care about appearances that much, it's only social media addicts, Kpop fans and C/EGL users who are obsessed.

And I agree with >>9851510

But I will say this, before anyone like >>9853807 try anything super invasive, I recommend you try botox first to see the effect on your chin, because it can make it look smaller and so your face will be more oval/heartshaped, if that's what you're after.

>>9850798
>>9860187
go back to your board

I get lip fillers done every so often. So far I have spent £1000 over the course of a couple of years on lip fillers. They do look fantastic though, and that's not me being deluded. I wouldn't recommend them if you have a bad lip shape though as it will only be accentuated.
I'd like to have liposuction on my arms one day, and fillers in my forehead in a few years.

>>9860314
Might as well add a picture. First is 2 years ago before I got any fillers.

>>9860317
Your original lips had a cuter shape imo, but to each their own.

>>9860317
your original lip is soft and maiden looking
Your lip filler is channeling more western trends (instagram thot)

>>9860325
I can still make it look more like the original and softer with different makeup, although it's nice to not have to overdraw them at other times.

If I get sick of them it's not like it's stuck like that forever too.

>>9860331
you're aging your lips a lot by stretching the skin. if you don't keep up with your fillers they'll look like shit as you get older. congrats on fucking your lips up for a trend

i've gotten double eyelid (ptosis correction) surgery
i'm very happy, i look a looot better, but when the topic of plastic surgery is brought up i just can't bring myself to mention 'oh yea i've had work done'
gulls: how open are you about it? do you talk about it with your friends/peers?
i can't help but feel fake and like im hiding when i dont mention my surgery.

>>9860335
If someone asked me directly I would mention it, but I wouldn't just in a passing conversation. It's like your medical history; you're not obligated to share whether you've had surgery with someone if you don't feel like it.

>>9860334
Lips are incredibly elastic compared to other skin, actually. And I do plan on keeping up with fillers as I get older as lips do get thinner as you get older. It's not like I went for like 3ml or anything either. It's only been a ml each time. I doubt I'm in any danger of having fucked up my face.

Hey gulls, I wish I could spoiler this image to soare you all from this horrific image but I can’t. Looking for advice.

Got braces as a kid to fix teeth that looked like a minefield, but they didn’t fix the overbite. For as long as I can remember I haven’t been able to keep my mouth closed/lips shut naturally, either because of the hulking huge front teeth I have, or the overbite and how my jaw developed after, or both. I consciously force it closed, but it looks really weird and there’s a lot of visible tension around the chin area, like I’m gritting my teeth. It looks really, really bad in photos, and I’ve only been getting by by covering the chin/mouth area entirely or angles and plentiful shoop. The dentists I’ve spoken to said that corrective jaw surgeries have a miniscule success rate and often end up being botched and even uglier than successful, but my other option is to remove like 5+ adult teeth over the course of at least a year, which I can’t feasibly do due to travelling for school. What do, gulls? Or am I cursed to have this horrific mongoloid chin and profile forever doomed to be ugly? Pretty sure this cursed jaw/chin/mouth issue is also responsible for long term health issues I’ve suffered like consistent mouth ulcers. >>9852147
What do you recommend, and where did you go for your underbite surgery?

Also not as important as chin thing but what the fuck is my nose, how do I even describe it, and how do I fix it? where do I even begin?

>>9860502
Sage for samefag and blogposting but it’s bad enough to the point where normal people will actually bring it up with me like “do you have some kind of issue with your mouth?” and “why is your mouth open all the time?” and it really fucks with m self esteem. The nose thing to a lesser extent, but without angles I look like a pig and it looks like a horrible pig snout.

I’m desperate to fix my trainwreck of a face but I don’t even know where to look.

Also someone mentioned upthread about shaving the length of their front teeth- me too, mine are a good 2.5-3 mm longer than the ones next to it and I want the death, thanks.

>>9860502
Anon I think you look cute and I want your nose. You also have beautiful lips.

>>9860502
Your nose is honestly fine. I really don't see any problem with it at all. I know this is kind of a quick fix, and a rushed photoshop job, but I think it's possible you could benefit from a chin implant. I'm chin implant anon from further up the thread, and I also have a slight overbite. You have a very weak chin, I know it's because of your jaw and overbite, but this would be easier than a huge jaw surgery or having loads of teeth removed. Anyway, I'm not a surgeon and you'd need to ask a surgeons advice. You can post your question and those pictures on RealSelf and get some advice quite easily from doctors. I can post my chin before and after too if you'd like.

>>9860603
Thank you for the kindness, though I will have to disagree, especially on the lips thing. tfw no upper lip

>>9860612
Yes, that sounds like it’d help for sure. Like other anons in this thread, I’m pretty anxious about getting things like implants in my body, rather than corrective measures for what I already have, but I can imagine the risk factor is way lower. Before/after pics would be super cool, yeah! Thank you for the direction to RealSelf, I’ll check that out.

>>9860692
no problem. I know intimately how it feels to not like your appearance. Chin implants are silicone, and can be screwed in. Mine has pretty much 0 chance of moving, it's screwed onto my jaw in two places and feels like a normal chin, and with modern healthcare there's not much of your body just rejecting it.

left is before, right is after. I have a dimple in my chin, that's not some weird mistake in the surgery.

>>9860703
That’s amazing, wow. How long has it been since you got it done?

>>9860763
thank you! I'm glad it looks okay. I'm very happy with it. I look at old pictures and feel like i look like a deformed alien. It's been a month and a bit, but those pictures were taken just a couple of weeks after. The middle right picture was just 1 week after.

>>9860502
You are a mouth breather, anon. All of your dental issues are a result of this. Any good dentist should have intervened when you were a kid and not now, because that's when it still can be fixed (as the skull is still in development). It can usually be fixed by changing diet, changing your swallow pattern, tongue posture and breathing exercises. If you are past 18 those exercises will do little to no change to your skull. But giving it a try anyway won't hurt I guess.

Dental health is really important to your general health, if I were you I'd consider surgery even if it were risky.

>>9850841
Home girl needs a nose job and something else to fix her frog eyes. Outside of that she’s pretty cute!

>>9850855
that and they end up looking the same since everyone wants the same v-line face

>>9850841
Well yeah, no shit

She still looks really good for her age. The botox likely is just for fine lines. Her skin is still quite nice from raw images I've seen.

>>9851527
I get why some people want the double lid surgery, but I feel like a lot of Asian girls look better with the monolid.

>>9855231
>this is a japanese middle weight

>>9855410
Does it help to takeaway the discoloration?
My undereye area is a little hallow(always has been, genetic) so I always look tired, so I've been really wanting to get this done

>>9860783
If I was ever a mouth breather at any point, it would still be past tense, although I can’t remember having long term periods of mouth breathing (used to have really bad allergies especially around winter months which lead to constant nasal issues and consequent mouth breathing, but it wasn’t a permanent fixture, I think) as a kid. Also >If you are past 18
>You must be 18 or older to post
Really gets the noggin a-joggin.

>If I were you, I’d consider surgery
You don’t say. Pardon my sarcasm, but it’s almost as if I’m asking what kind of surgery would be best for this problem in the plastic surgery thread. I have been considering legitimate corrective surgery for years, though it’s extremely pricey and warned against by my dentists. The high fail rate and high follow-up long term pain rate scare me off a bit though, hence I’m here looking for any more advice, esp from anons who have already gotten surgery for similar things like underbite anon above.

>>9861193
Honestly anon, don't get your nose done.

Get your chin done if it bothers you that much, but if you do, it can dramatically change the look of your face. So if you got it, you might decide your nose is fine after all (which I think it is)

>>9855410
This is the only cosmetic change I'd really consider because I've got pretty bad sunken tear troughs and it's the one thing that really bothers me about my appearance that I can't change by exercise/makeup/etc. I read up about it and got scared by the one in 10,000 chance to go blind if your doctor fucks up somehow. How do you get over stuff like that? It seems like getting undereye fillers should be a pretty minor and not scary operation.

>>9860317
Your lips looked way better in the first photo, and they likely better suited your face.

I'm so pissed off by how many of you get cosmetic surgery

>>9852319
>i dont get why people would want bigger boobs

I'm tall, thin. flat chested. I'm not ugly and do paid modeling gigs on occasion. I recieved a lot of transphobia when I lived in the south, daily harassment every time I left the house by complete strangers telling me trannies shouldn't wear dresses, so on. This all *magically* dissapeared when I put on a pushup bra. the harassment stopped entirely. I had to wear padding in order to not receive harassment.

constant harassment on my chest size since I was 12, constantly told that I might as well be a man. I have body dysphoria, which is weird for someone who models for a living. Clothes don't fit me properly, whenever I wear something with "boob cups" there's nothing to fit into them.

I don't want giant tits that will make it difficult for me to fit into clothing, or cause me back pain. I just want to be able to properly fit into clothes and to not feel like less of a woman.

Not fitting into clothes is the biggest issue honestly, I already feel like shit because I'm tall and into Japanese fashion, but no surgery can "fix" my height.

>>9861368
Good, stay mad uggo

>>9860502
Go to an actual maxillofacial surgeon, not a dentist. Often noses become less of an issue once jaws are fixed, although that's usually with underbite surgery rather than overbite...one of my friends honestly looked like she'd had her nose done but actually they'd just shaved her mandible back (or maybe cut out some bone in the middle, not sure) and put in some metal to distract her maxilla. Overbite is technically very tricky from what I've heard. I think it's because the mandible being distracted forward, so you're trying to do more to the mobile half of the jaw. Regardless, breathing issues is a good indication for it and it may well have been something you were genetically doomed to have regardless of mouth breathing or whatever exercises supposedly miraculously cure a bad genetic lottery.

>>9851220
Flat is justice

>>9850804
you can get kybella injections to dissolve the doouble chin

I'm interested in facial fillers. One thing that turned me off botox was that it seems like it can make you begin aging more poorly in like 20 years if you start early. Do fillers have similar risks?

>>9861377
I'm actually quite pretty without plastic surgery. Have fun creating fucked up looking children

>>9865204
>reproducing

>>9865204
>i'm actually quite pretty
confirmed for uggo

>>9865225
And I bet you're one of those vendetta chans in the COF threads.

>>9861368
>Caring what other people do with their faces and money
>>9865226
>Still replying

Uggos like you are why we can't have nice things.

I cosplay and wear lolita. Had jaw surgery and my eyes done for around $3500 usd. Best decision of my life. My jaw used to be super square and now it's more feminine and oval. Boosted my confidence and popularity.

>>9861026
>they all look the same
Do people really believe this? The extreme dorito chin v was a thing when the gangnam unni park bom face was popular years ago but that's long over anons, keep up.

>>9865226
are you sure you know what a vendetta is, uggo?

>>9865330
all these white gulls have hard asian envy/racism ingrained in them; if they don't tell themselves "all asians look the same!! plastic surgery!! xDDD" they'll vomit blood

>>9865332
Yes, thanks for proving my point. I meant anons who cry shoop whenever a pretty lolita is posted, as if it couldn't be possible that cute girls exist irl.

>>9865330
imagine getting full on-plastic surgery and it ending up horribly out of fashion, never to return. That's yo face son, jeezus.

>>9851209
Breast reduction was the best thing I ever did. It does take a long recovery time

>>9850957
fillers and plastic surgery yield different results

>>9865623
that's not a vendetta lmfao, glad you're proving you have no idea what you're talking about

>>9865623
Anon pls

>>9850897
Am definitely getting one too first time i get money to spare for it. And maybe a small boob job

I have a crooked nose from an accident, it also has a small bump and the tip is too round and big. With good lightning and angles it looks okay, but I wish I didn't have to worry about it... still not bad enough for me to get surgery. I don't think the possible improvement is worth the money, risk and pain.

Currently I'm considering fillers and botox, I'm in my early 20's and got REALLY bad smile lines, mostly from my shitty genetics. Also laser because I want flawless skin.

>>9865201
What, where did you read that? Never heard that before and the doctor at the place I went said the opposite... About fillers, I have read people mention that skin can stretch but also others deny it and say that fillers actually promote collagen production etc... I don't know what to think, that's why I haven't done it already :/

>>9860317
I like the second photo. Good choice anon

>>9860317
i like the fillers better desu

Want chin implant, rhinoplasty to fix how bulbous my nose can be and there's a small hump in it. Then I need maxillofacial surgery because my entire jaw isn't aligned correctly. I forcefully align it by putting my jaw in an unnatural sitting position so my face doesn't look asymmetrical but fuck it hurts.

Beauty is pain.

I had a couple birth marks removed (laser) from my face because it was off balance, the largest one (1.7 cm) was the focal point of my face and nothing else was noticeable. My insurance covered it as they also biopsied the birthmarks for cancer because I am at massive skin cancer risk because of how many I have. (Thankfully cancer free)

I think plastic surgery is okay, as long as you make sure to understand that you will always find things you want to fix and not get addicted. It was so easy and mostly painless that there are a ton more things I want to do so I'm holding off for at least 10 years after I had my last so I don't get too much done.

I'd like a double chin reduction, small amount lip fillers, and something to get rid of my dark circles.

Cosplayer here. I’ve had Botox in my masseter muscles to slim down my jaw. Initially I was looking into a full surgical jaw reduction, but the injections seemed to work well - it came up nicely in photos. I should be getting another round soon actually.

I also had lip fillers, but I only got one ml because my mum scared me into thinking I’d look like a trout lol, so it didn’t make enough of a difference. I’ll be getting another round of fillers soon too.

There’s actually a shitload of procedures I want to get done. I’ve had chronic eczema and it’s aged my face so badly, so i’m hoping to get my smile lines taken care of. I’m 24 and I look at least in my 30s.

>>9866551
Oh shit I didn't even realize you could do that. How much does it cost and how long does it last?

I've been really self conscious about my jaw/neck area, I have a roundish/squarish face and a thicker shorter neck, and I feel like it makes me look chubby, even though I'm pretty thin. I want a more defined jaw and slimmer face. As I've gotten older it's started to bother me more (I'm 27) and I have looked into cosmetic surgery, but I'm realistically never going to be able to afford it. Is this a good way to add jaw definition? What other options might I have?

>>9866572
to give my input, i only got botox in my jaw muscles done once. i saw a slight difference and i think i would have gotten a more noticeable change if i got more done. but unfortunately, i got a weird lump in my face after the injections. i think it was scar tissue or something.

>>9866572

As far as surgical options go, neck lift or lower face lift could work, depending on the nature of the thickness. They would remove fat and tighten the skin at the crease of your jawline.

For non surgical, the botox could work, especially if the thickness in your lower face is due to enlarged lower jaw muscles. This is common in habitual gum chewers.

>>9866572
I don’t remember the exact cost, but it was around AU$600 I believe? They use a lot of botox for it. I never knew about it until i started researching jaw reductions, because the people who normally get this procedure are people who grind their teeth and overwork their jaws.

It’s supposed to only last around four months due to how much you use your masseters, but mine lasted six!

It does give you a sharper jaw I think. Mine was definitely rounded out a lot because of how big the muscles were, and it actually blew me away seeing my jaw look... like....... flat lmao. I would definitely recommend a consultation at least, if you think it could help. I felt so much better after mine.

>>9866161
>>9865868
begone thots

>>9861376
My cousin had the same issue, not even pregnancy gave her breasts. She finally took the plunge and got an augmentation up to a B cup, and she finally feels like a woman.

>>9866572
Mine was $300 but I was in Taipei at the time, so getting botox is way cheaper. Results lasted 3 months for me, I am a really bad grinder/jaw clencher and it didn't break the cycle completely so I think the fact that I was still trying to use those muscles meant that it didn't last as long. Results depend on how much of your jawline is muscle and how much is bone/fat. For me the most obvious change was that I didn't feel like I had to find a better angle to make my face not look big in selfies

>>9855410
how much did it cost? which filler did you use? i bruised from botox so the lady who did that for me said i'd be bruised a month with this kind of filler.

>>9850775
Got jaw and teeth argumentation (still working on it, second surgery soon, it'll be doing my upper and lower jaw both at once). Got most of it payed by my insurance, but honestly appearance is just as much reason I wanted it as health lol.

I also would love to remove eye-bag (bad genes + a lot of stress for many years starting at a very young age), and I wish for bigger breast. But I have D cups already (want F or G) and my biggest reason to doubt is fitting burando.

I think plastic surgery is ok, to me it's like any permanent body modification (like tattoos and stuff). You have to think it trough, only do it for yourself and not for others (if they leave you still have it), be fully grown in the part it's done, do it professionally/well, and don't lie about it.

>>9861026
>they end up looking the same
Honestly, these two look very different to me. The left girl has a more oval shape face ending in a soft point at her chin, while the right girl has a more defined jaw line with strong angles for her V-line.

Really love the right shape most by far haha. But her duckface looks horrible, and eyes are too big in proportion. Should be slightly smaller like left face.

>>9867486
Both their eyes are horribly oversized compared to their faces, and that's the work of photo editing not surgery. There's probably as much filtering at work here as there is surgery. Similar nose, lip shape, aegyo sal, double lids and the exact same damn makeup contributes heavily to the sameface.

>>9850786
>>9850801
>>9850823
>>9850828
Idk what that first anon is talking about, once a year is not how you do botox.

In your 30s, every 4 months is recommended (6 if money is a problem). The stuff wears off in three or so and you'll actually have much worse wrinkles in the long run if you perpetually let your atrophied face muscles regrow in those interim year periods.

I do botox (fillers are not for every face, and they're really easy to do badly, so... watch out) and I wish someone had talked me into it in my 20s. The younger you start, the less you'll pay lifetime. Starting it in your 40s/50s means the creases are basically permanent and you'll need surgery to really fix anything; starting in your 20s/early 30s is the way to do it. I encourage literally everyone to get started now if it's at all a thing you think you might care about later. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure in this case.

Is there anything you can do about small lips? I don't mean thin lips, but to make them longer horizontally, I guess. Is there a name for such a thing? I've been able to accept everything but my tiny mouth.

>>9867563
I think if it helps you remember not to frown/raise your eyebrows etc. and gets you out of the habit of particular facial expressions then you're less likely to have the muscles and wrinkles re-develop. There isn't any evidence about getting worse wrinkles as far as I'm aware - my cosmetic doctor said that's usually something that people get told so that they feel like they need to come more often, although the effects do wear off after 3-4 months and the natural ageing that you were gonna get anyway doesn't exactly stop just because botox, it's just that the contrast is more apparent because you went from partly-smoothed with the botox to not.

>>9867627
please don't ruin yourself anon, you're fine the way you are

>>9860703
that looks good

>>9855410
seconding the coloration issue, I need fillers but my under eyes are also darker

>>9850775
I want to get a nose job but maybe a nostril reduction will work? Are nostril reductions as bad with complications and price?

>>9867806
Are you really giving “don’t express emotions” as advice for not developing wrinkles? You sound insane.

>>9869204
Your nose looks fine.

>>9869204
why? your nose looks fine and you can probably achieve what you want with contour

>>9869469

nayrt. Botox works by paralysing your face muscles, so that they aren't pulling on the skin, which is what reduces wrinkles. Botox doesn't affect the skin itself at all, it's all about not moving the muscles so you don't move the skin.

So the logical conclusion, given that Botox only works because it restricts facial expressions, is to restrict facial expressions yourself without Botox.

It still sounds like an unreasonable habit to pick up, which I guess is why doctors still recommend women do ongoing treatment more frequently instead of recommending you not show emotions.

>tfw cursed with ugly pancake farmer face
Any gulls get nose jobs for flat noses/faces? Do those “temporary no surgery” filler jobs work on these noses? Tell me anything.

>>9860502
Hey anon, where do you live that your doctors said that? Mine had a pretty high success rate and said that most of his patients end up happier after the corrective surgery.

I go to a oral surgeon in Wilkes Barre and he brought up having surgery once he saw that my teeth weren’t the main issue, now that they’re straight you can see how fucked up my jaw is. Just make sure your insurance will cover it and you won’t have any issues with them not wanting to pay for it.

>tfw you should be a week post-surgery but it got cancelled because insurance says there’s no prior proof that I actually need it despite years of consultations

>>9867627
Overlining might help to make your mouth look slightly wider. I think small mouths are cute, though.

>>9850775
Yeah
Born with putrid eyes that have a negative canthal tilt and are close set, so I got two surgeries, one to address the tilt and achieve a neutral one, and the other one to conceal the low IPD.
Also had jaw implants to tackle my disgusting lower third and am looking to somehow address my zygos since my overall facial width is below the 30th percentile for men. Having a small skull is comical. A higher nose bridge wouldn't be bad, too.

I don't regret it. I actually get attention from women, now, and don't feel like killing myself whenever I see my face in the mirror.

>>9860502
I'm
>>9872736
I've known guys who ended up with amazing life-changing results here in LA after years of mouth-breathing and poor dental health, but they paid a pretty penny.
Chin implants are also an option.

As for your nose, it is in fact a bit too bulbous, that is, your nostrils are fleshy, and judging from the picture, you have a low nose bridge, too. Generally, with your nose:

>want the widest part of your nose to match your inner canthus width
>want the radix, or portion where the nose starts sloping down to align with the center of your eye, any lower is a low radix
>want your lip length to be ~1.34 times your nose width

thankfully you have a good philtrum so your nose isn't much of an issue. nose isn't that important in all honesty, except in the more egregious cases. eye area (the king) and facial length and width proportions/bone growth are the most important factors for physical attractiveness.

>>9869567
You can't get the same dramatic results as a rhinoplasty but it definitely can lift the bridge of your nose and improve the side profile. . You can also get filler placed in your cheeks for definition if needed

>>9850811
I can relate a bit to that. I have a big nose, but so does my dad and mom. It's the family nose and I would never touch it. I do how ever already have more hollowness under my eyes then even my mom does and it bothers me... Considering getting under eye fillers.

>>9851193
There are tons of cream. Check Korean product. But creams aren't permanent. Need to reaply.

There is a way of whitening permanent with hospital, but it's expansive and it sounds like you need spot removal instead.

>>9851220
They can make them natural looking. I have no clue why the fake balloony ones are so popular in the west, because we had natural looking ones for ages and they cost the same.

If you have a decent amount of breast tissue, they can feel quite natural because your fat covers it. The bigger the breast the better. Placing behind the muscle also helps. But if you have no breast it'll be impossible to have them feel natural.

>>9851510
>Obsessing over one's appearance is a mental disorder, when your looks do not affect your life in overly negative way.

Actually. Although you can archive most things while looking bad, looking good can make them more easy. While in other things, it can make it harder. The way you look defiantly affects your life. People make their first impression and assumptions on them. And let's be honest, people do act on those impressions and assumptions as well.

Next to that, not everyone who get's surgery is obsessing. Some people might just have the money and luxury to worry about it, because it's the worst of their problems.

>>9851193
Tolymoly has a good whitening cream

>>9850775
I’ve had Botox and lip fillers and I start Kybella treatments next week. I wear lolita and gyaru.
No actual plastic surgery yet, but most of my insecurities can be fixed with injectables which are much cheaper anyway.

>>9850786
Lol time to stop cosplaying, grandma

>>9851209
Look into coolsculpting

>>9851220
Fat + stem cell transfer

>>9851511
Go check out fasting threads on /fit/, you'd be amazed how much it can do for loose skin.

Maybe not necessarily plastic surgery, but are there any treatments for aging skin? I'm not sleeping well and don't have enough time to take care of it properly (I do when I can, but it's not as often as I'd like), so I'm worried about premature ageing.

>>9876531
Retinoids, acids, niacinamide, sunscreen in terms of skincare
Laser resurfacing, PRP, injectables for heavier duty cosmetic treatments

just be born prettier guys

>>9877111
Thanks, I'll look into this.

>>9877245
Man, I wish I could spin the genetic lottery wheel over and over until I win.

>>9850786
>30
lol better have had some kiddos and got yourself a man or you are going to die covered in cat piss

>>9878903
>Dad is overweight, ugly, short but a multimillionaire partner at a law firm
>Mom is a former model who married my dad for his money
>One life to live, and I'm the only one of my 4 siblings that looks like my dad

Are these :3 - face lips natural or is it all just a dermal filler to push up the ends of the lip?

>>9879828
I'm married anon. Psh, never having kids. who has kids now a days. I want a fun life with money

>>9855410
Mind elaborating more on how much it cost and whether there was any recovery time involved? My eye bags have been super bad from not sleeping so I've been wanting them

>>9865330
>around $3500
Where did you go anon?

>>9879988
>Mom has natural oval shape and cute chin
>Get dad's square man jaw
I LOOK LIKE A ROBLOX PERSON AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>9879988
You're rich get survey to look like your siblings, wouldn't be unbelievable either

>>9857126
>I have eyesight so terrible that even slim-material glasses still end up really thick, and I can't wear contacts (just too bad of eyesight.) I don't think there's actually anything that can be done about it; even surgeries are only recommended for under a certain correction and I'm well over the safe limit. I hate wearing glasses but I don't see a choice.

You might not qualify for Lasik, but you might still be able to get PRK. I just recently did despite being severely nearsighted, and my prescription was OD 8.5 and OS 10.5 diopters.

Has anyone here gotten a BBL? I don't think I've even seen it mentioned but I've been debating between that and just straight up lipo/cool sculpt. Any pros or cons?
Also, does cool sculpt tighten up your skin as well or do you end up flabby after the fat has gone away?
I'm not overweight but definitely chubby and have not been able to work out in a bit, but have always been pretty potato shaped even when I did work out due to holding weight in my upper arms and stomach.

>cosplayer mainly
>Nothing done yet
>do want you want its your fucking body

>>9885762
recovery was nonexistent. although my Dr was super gentle, and she just did the small injections by my circle area.
I was a little sore for a day or two. NO bruising, just a little sore. It looks 100% natural, my circles are just basically filled in and less dark.
100% recommend it anon. I look much younger and less tired

>>9850855
she doesn't need surgery, she just needs to stop sticking her fingers down her throat

>>9885840
>mom has round asian face
>dad has blocky american face
>end up with weird blocky squircle face
a-at least I got my mom's button nose

>>9850804
Just get lipo on your chin or something.

>>9876335
People like you usually mentally suffer the most when you reach milestone ages like 30, 40,and 50. Don't let karma bite you in the ass.

>>9876503
Yeah, I used to think fasting would turn me into a ghoul but apparently this is the secret to youth and beauty. Probably why it's so discouraged, since it will lose a lot of people money.

>>9880924
I see a lot of european women (don't know what part of europe tho) who have lips like these naturally. I think they're slavic maybe? I dunno. But it's a really interesting look.

>>9861026
What is going to happen in a few years when the v line face trend is over but all of these people still are permanently stuck with it? I feel really sad thinking about it.

Never get a surgery to conform to a fad. Fads are temporary by nature.

>>9852071
>I've heard lots of bad things about pills changing your skin colour
In what way is it changing the color?

>>9852207
>Is it ever a good idea to opt for plastic surgery when you have BDD.
No.

>>9852861
>Look at the most "beautiful" women in the world though, almost all have actually quite prominent chins.
This made me think of Ariana Grande. She has quite a prominent chin but no one would accuse her of looking like a man.

>>9865333
Maybe it feels weird for them to be part of a scene where their features aren't considered the gold standard of beauty.

>>9866551
What are you getting for chronic eczema scars/aged skin??

I got surgery multiple times for my face and I want to tell others that once you start it's a slippery slope and you keep wanting more. Be careful gulls

>>9890126
She's not a very good example to use; she got her jaw shaved down.

Do I need insurance to get plastic surgery?

>>9890891
no, not unless it's for a truly medical purpose.

>>9890892
Yay! Guess I'll start saving up for Juvaderm.

>>9852028
Glutathione etc doesn't change your undertones, so you will still need to make sure that you're careful with choosing either warm or cool toned pastel pinks depending on what suits you...

>>9890185
No she didn't.

>>9890185
Nah she just lost quite a bit of weight when she went vegan in her teens and started being a hardcore exercise junkie. Her jaw shape is the same, but she's just skinnier.

I recently had major sinus surgery and got my deviated septum fixed.
Even though it wasn't supposed to change how I look, I now suddenly have a much slimmer face and smoother brow line, due to how swollen and bloated my face was for years because of constant infection.

My nosebridge is also a lot slimmer now. On top of that, a lot of my skin issues, mainly red and dry patches on and around my nose and cheeks, have vanished.

I never would have thought so many of my facial issues were due to health problems.

Now that I had an accidental taste of doctors fixing my face, I'm really wondering if I should save up to get lip fillers and fix my fat grandma arms.

>>9891264
>>9892045
kek, she clearly got her nose and jaw done; your face doesn’t drastically change shape from weight loss.

21, cosplayer, no surgeries. But I’d like to get a lip lift or gum filler to make my upper lip taller, and a small nose job to straighten it out cause it’s very crooked from a gymnastics accident as a kid
My lips are shaped very similar to my dads side of the family where it’s pointy on the bottom of my top lip, we call it “bird lip”, and the older they get the worse it looks, so I want to pull my lip up so it stops doing that. Pic related, it does that shape but my lips aren’t that thin.

>>9850775
Nope.

Face exercises work well for me. Muscles keep you young and pretty.

>>9895300
Anon that's just the power of makeup and a shitload of photoshop/lighting/ideal angles. She has the same face as always. I used to be an unbeliever too but I had to admit I was wrong eventually.

https://youtu.be/J1Cazzj9HWE?t=4m41s

This is from the BTS of her most recent music video. She looks just like she did on Nickelodeon when her makeup isn't done and she isn't insta-posing.

>>9895627
What kind of face exercises? I keep getting paranoid that flexing my face a lot will give me wrinkles, but apparently a lot of models do it so I don't know.

I haven't had anything done yet, but I really want a hyaluronic acid injection to straighten out my nosebridge so my gyaru nosehighlight/contour looks better.
Also maybe some to fill out my undereye/cheeks, since you see the line between my muscles there.
But since I'm only 20 I want to wait just a bit.

>>9895627
What exercises?

I am underweight but have a tragically fat face thanks to shitty genes. Been considering lipo and jaw reduction surgery. I just want to be cute...

>>9850775
I considered a boob job at some point, very briefly, but then I started training hardcore and found that I quite like having small boobs. I don't need to wear a bra at all, not even for running, and they never get in the way, don't have to worry about not looking professional, etc.
My face is already pretty cute and I have a nice, perky ass so no wasting money in plastic surgery.

>>9875050
> looking good can make them more easy.
Literally said no one but hookers and golddiggers. I've seen professional women complain about being conventionally attractive because it means men will be more likely to harass them or not take them seriously, and even have promotions witheld from them because people above want to save face (and not get accussed of dishing out a promotion for a blowjob).

I work as a VP partner in an international bank, and none of the senior VPs are good looking women. Sadly, in the real world, you need to work your ass off and network, and that's how you get ahead in life.

>>9887908
what kind of filler?

>>9851445

>>9903230
I feel like it's one of these lines you walk between being too attractive/not attractive enough. If you are confirmed fat and ugly then you know it will have to be all be hard work and networking, but often while you're working your way up you need to be seen to be making the effort to look presentable, so being just on the slightly better side of average face wise without having a "hot body" seems to be the optimal combo.

>>9903318
juvaderm

How well does fat injections in the hips work?
If I was ever to get plastic surgery I think it would be to take some of my neck and stomach and inject it into my hips, ass, and thighs to even things out.

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