/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9841595

>>9842818
I've met a ton of them at events, particularly indie designers, and my favorite to interact with so far have been Haenuli, Voodooodolly and CloudberryLady. Haenuli in particular puts a lot of effort into being personable and remembering her fans.

Kimura-U really surprised me with how genuine and nice she is. She also personally assisted me trying something on when I stopped by her booth which was not something I've really seen any designer do. Aito-San of RPA was surprisingly cool too, though she had this vkei feel to her that made it intimidating for me to talk to her.

One AATP designer I met was interesting, and let us look at her sketchbooks, but for the most part all my interactions with baby staff/designers has felt very cardboard. Misako also felt less like a person and more like a walking advertisement. Not that there's anything wrong with wanting to keep some personal distance when you've got to interact with so many people, but it just wasn't as enjoyable as the energy Haenuli and Kimura-U put into their interactions.

>>9848601
>Kimura-U really surprised me with how genuine and nice she is
Me as well. I met her at an event and she greeted me with a hug even though I had never met her before and wasn't wearing anything from her brand. She was really friendly and insisted on hugging me even in the picture. Everyone that met her that day left with a positive experience. She's really just super sweet and even though I'm not a sweet lolita I miss seeing her model for AP.

Mana. At Sakuracon. My life is fulfilled

>>9848788
How was it, anon? Please tell us. Did he sign your brand? Was he beautiful in person as he is in pictures?

>>9842818
I've worked with quite a few models and designers over the last few years.

Midori - She is a blast to work with and is really super fun. She will also just randomly walk up to someone and hug them or lean on them if she's tired. She really loves boobs.
Akira - Really quiet behind the scenes, but is very warm and friendly when you speak to her. She also really loves boobs.
Misako - Is more a watcher vs a doer, but is nice af and waaaay more human backstage than in front of people. I've seen her chow down on ribs and a burger. My life was made after that.
Yui - SUPER SWEET AND CUTE LIKE OMG. Also, she's a demon. If she hands you a drink, don't drink it.
Yura - She was super jet lagged and slept a lot but she was nice. Kind of quiet as well.
Kimura U - She is just the definition of precious. Very energetic, but she is also incredibly professional and has a very clear idea of what she wants.
VM (I'm spacing on her name) - She was such a joy to work with! Very professional and has the cutest smile. It seriously rivals Midori's.
Chinatsu Taira - Very fun!! She laughed and smiled a lot and cracked jokes to everyone
Hasegawa - He's probably one of my favorite designers to work with. He's super nice, kind of shy, and really love Star Wars.
Maki & Asuka - Super professional, like don't bother them at all. Asuka is very serious, although I have seen her laugh a few times. Maki is adorable. They work as a really great team. They've been working together so long they really don't even communicate, it's just natural.
Shiva - Very friendly, loves to touch your shoulders and hold your hand. She gives off a very warm vibe, and it's almost some what mother-ish. She made one of my closest friends feel incredibly supported and understood, and it made my friend cry from the support.

My favorites are probably Hasegawa and Midori but all of them are amazing people, and I have never had a bad experience with any of them.

>>9848838
>Midori and Akira love boobs
Nice.

>If she hands you a drink, don't drink it.
Explain please? What does that mean?

>>9848847
If Yui hands you a drink, it typically means you are going to be on your ass after a sip or two. She mixes every alcohol available and drinks it. We had a party for the guests and I made the mistake of taking her dare to finish her cup, which was only about 2 shots full. BIG MISTAKE. I passed out on the room floor and didn't wake up until about 6am.

>>9848850
Somehow the image of models partying hard like this in their frills fills me with joy. Knocking people out with alcohol is a bit extreme but still.

...Do you think Midori and Akira are actually lesbians? Asking for a friend.

>>9848852
Drinking in lolita with lolita idols is the best and I think everyone should have that experience at least once.

I don't doubt that they are, but they never showed any kind of affection to each other past the normal hand holding or faces close to each other. I definitely think they are best friends.

>>9848850
New Lolita Life Goal: I want to accept the cup of liquid fire from her. I will met this person at all costs.

>>9848838
That’s so amazing that you’ve gotten to work with them!!!

RinRin Doll was the cutest! She was really warm and even hugged me a few times during the day. An actual angel <3

>>9848855
>normal hand holding

is it just me or is holding hands not something you do with a friend casually?

>>9848855
Even if they're just best friends they could still be lesbians. Please don't break my heart anon!

How did you get the opportunity to meet all of these people if you don't mind me asking? Do you model a lot? Could you give a general idea of what con you're in?

>>9849167
It depends on whether it's pancake or waffle style.

Met the designer of Vierge Vampur at rufflecon. She really likes cats.

>>9849167
I absolutely hold hands with close friends
>or atleast, I did
>when I had them

>>9849170
Different Anon, but sometimes I wonder. If it's any comfort, there's a fan service book involving them that I found at Kinokuniya. Sorry I don't have the title and I'm on mobile because my laptop is dying, but I recall it being wrapped up, so I can imagine some tasteful lewds involved

>>9849177
You slut.

>>9849170
Purely guessing here but it sounds like anon works for AM because most of those were guests for them and they hold exclusive parties all the time together too.

>>9848838
Begone Anime Matsuri.

>>9849167
Some cultures see hand holding amumgs girls as a friendship thing rather than a romantic thing.

I’ve so far met Maki and Asuka as well as Minori and was able to work with them. Yet I’d say Maki is my favorite of them all due to personal reasons. She was also very communicative and I talked quiet a bit with her.

The AP Chief is also pretty cool. She’s a tad bit racist though, but she’s always up for a good laugh.

Minori is a sweetheart too, but a bit boring to me.

>>9848852
I'm sure I heard somewhere Midori is married

>>9849568
She could be bi, then.

>>9848855
>>9848852
Midori is married. Akira has to do fan service and is used to doing it because of her band.

How do y'all talk with them? I've been to a few tea-parties with special guests but there isn't really any opportunity unless you get to sit at their table and are fluent in Japanese.

>>9849607
Some events have an interpreter and some guests know a bit of English, but speaking Japanese is going to be your best bet for having any meaningful conversation with a Japanese guest.

I briefly met Natsumi from Metamorphose. She's pretty nice, I didn't really spend a whole lot of time talking to her but at the Rufflecon tea party I had a chance to exchange some words with her. I let her know how much I loved Meta and she was really happy, thanked me for my support, and was REALLY EXCITED that I was wearing a dress of one of her designs.

Also interacted with Triple Fortune a bit at RC as well. They're pretty much exactly what you'd expect haha.

I'd really like to meet Haenuli, and Kuniko from Physical Drop/old meta designer.

>>9849615
Yeah, this. I've mostly interacted with guests through interpreters so you only get so much time to talk to them, you know? I was jealous of the folks I saw talking to the guests in Japanese because you could tell they were having a much more substantial conversation. It definitely made me want to try to learn more conversational Japanese.

I didn't get to interact with with her very much, but the designer of VM complimented me when she was taking photos with our table at a tea party.

She exclaimed "Oh! So beautiful!" and my soul left my body and went to heaven for one brief shining moment. I think she was just being nice, I wore a cheesy ass shiro bridal coord and my wig was way too yellow. Nevertheless it made me super happy.

Akira, as well, I expected to be super stoic much like she is in her photoshoots. She is actually very friendly, cute, and almost dorky. She was cracking jokes left and right from the guest table. I love her so much.

>>9849615
I know this is going to make me sound entitled, but it makes me sad that Japanese-speaking lolitas these days don't share their convo's and things they learn from Japanese interviews and videos and stuff. I don't even scan any magazines anymore because I know nobody is going to translate/read them anyway.

I've met Maki and Asuka, Yumi Fujiwara, Fumiko Kawamura, Misako Aoki, Kimura U, Imai Kira, and Kokusyoku Sumire.

Kokusyoku Sumire are my long-time style idols so it was a dream come true to meet them and see them perform. Also Imai Kira is very friendly and sweet, though she's generally a pretty private person she made an effort to greet and chat with everyone at the event.

I also saw Mana/MdM at AX in 2009(?) but I can't really say I "met" him other than attending a signing. It was still a cool experience though.

In the future I'd like to meet Midori, she is super cute and seems like a fun person at events.

>>9849370
>She’s a tad bit racist though
lol wut

>>9849370
>She’s a tad bit racist
What do you mean?

>>9848838
Was Misako eating ribs in lolita?

>>9849370
Is the AP chief the one with the short hair and piercings? I worked with someone representing AP before who sounds a little like that who had short bleach blonde hair but I could never remember her name.

I also worked with Misako, though the only words exchanged between us were as such

>Misako eating Chic Fil A for the first time, it’s a big ass thing of chicken nuggets
>looks at the chicken, then the sauce
>looks at me, who was just a worker in the back for a minute to grab some dresses for a customer
>”I eat this with my hands?”
>holy shit cute
>”yes”
>watches Misako eat one
>”oishi”
>try not to explode and go back to work

>>9849607
>>9849845 again, I met Sakurako at a meet and greet and we had a little huddle of girls passing a phone between us girls and Sakurako, with Google Traslate open and switching between English and Japanese keyboards. She told us the reason she got into Lolita and modeling was because of Misa Misa from Death Note, which she found extremely cute. I found THAT extremely cute.

Midori patted my head and called me kawaii at a tea party once. I also saw Akira relaxing with some of the other models (I think they were models, I was mostly focused on her) smoking in one of the lounge areas of the hotel. It was weirdly hot.

I met Misako and the Putumayo designer at the Putumayo collab tea party. Misako called me kawaii and we chatted a tiny bit about the style. The designer said that tall girls are sexy in broken english to me when I said his brand's skirts are too short for me. It was a good time. I also met Midori and she's a sweet bubbly cutie pie.

Maki was super sweet and urged me to take a photo with them when I had something signed. Asuka didn’t really speak English but was friendly and tried to communicate. Got excited when she saw what I was buying because it was one of the items she designed.
I got to model with Risa, but she was a bit cold and didn’t interact with any of the models backstage. Maybe just shy/introverted. AP chief complained about my height the whole time, saying I was too tall despite being within the requirements.

>>9850040
Risa constantly seems cold/bored at every event she goes to. I think after a point it's not just one off day, it's rudeness.

>>9849616
Ahhh you're so lucky to meet Natsumi from Meta! It's one of my dreams to meet her one day.

I met Natsumi from Meta and Kaie and Babi from Triple Fortune at Rufflecon 2017. For some reason Rufflecon didn't have interpreters to assist the Japanese guests at their booths, and so I ended up interpreting for Triple Fortune, Meta, and one other stall that sold kanzashi (I forgot the name) on Saturday and part of Sunday. It was a lot of fun.
Kaie and Babi were very professional with customers, as expected, but when it was just us they kept making jokes and chatting very casually. There was one memorable occasion where they asked me to interpret between them and an independent designer who was there (I think it was Cloudberry lady?), and they were telling her that they had seen her stuff at previous cons and were really impressed, and had been following her online. They said they thought she was very imaginative and were very supportive and kind, saying that they were looking forward to seeing how she grew as an artist, etc. She was so happy to hear that, and it was so nice to be able to interpret and be a part of that conversation.
Another memorable moment was when I showed up again on Sunday in a TF bonnet and Babi and Kaie fussed over me and adjusted it and complimented my coord. My heart was beating so fast during that time, I felt like a shojo heroine. Also Babi smelled soooo good.

>>9850225
Natsumi of Meta was really sweet, kind, and sociable. I mentioned how my favorite meta release was the pintuck jsk because it is so versatile, and she seemed very happy to hear that. She talked about how she wanted to make more "adult" and classic lolita oriented releases, as their customers are getting older and are leaning more towards mature and classical looks. She also mentioned how she tries to make every release as versatile as she can, so that it can be coordinated in a number of ways and suit many different substyles. She struck me as very serious and passionate about lolita fashion, and the amount of thought that she puts into each release is incredible. I really grew to respect her for that after talking with her.

>>9849845
Nah the one with short blonde hair is a random shop girl from Shinjuku. The Chief is an old Japanese lady, I can never remember her name though, I’m so bad at names.

Why she’s racist? Let’s say last year ppl discussed why it never or rarely happens that dark skinned girls get chosen to model for AP, well there’s a reason.

>>9850244
Wow. Glad my brown-skinned self was never particularly into AP, then.

>>9850244
>Let’s say last year ppl discussed why it never or rarely happens that dark skinned girls get chosen to model for AP, well there’s a reason.
What happened? Did the AP chief just come out and say "Dark-skinned girls aren't kawaii enough for our brand" or something? Tell the story, anon.

>>9850040
>mfw i think i modeled with you
AP chief was savage, i remember that. her japanese was very... brash? i'm not fluent but it was informal and kinda rude lol. tallitas are cute though so shove her opinion.

i smiled at risa backstage because i smile at everybody and got a blank look in the eye... but i don't think smiling is her thing so i don't hold it against her lol

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>>9849692
Is the VM designer Aya Nimura? She's the one that usually modelled for VM before she left last year.

>>9850254
I happen to be very close to her and some Japanese folks she seems to know during a fashion show. In the fashion show there was a middle eastern (I guess so) girl with slightly olive colored skin
AP Chief
>that girl is a bit dark, but it’s ok
Pointing towards a black girl in the audience (with literal disgust in her face)
>she’s not THIS dark

Has anyone here met Imai Kira? I’ve heard she’s sweet. Is she cute?

>>9850227
>>9849616
Between Natsumi and (previously) Kuniko Kato, I love how Meta always seems to have had the absolute nicest people. This is one of many reasons why they are my favourite brand, I just fucking love Meta so much.

>>9850227
I am so ready to spend all my money if/when Meta starts making more classical releases.

>>9850378
To be fair, black girls don't really fit the traditional lolita aesthetic. Or come close to what's considered beautiful in Japan.

>>9850665rr
>traditional lolita aesthetic
You mean European clothing? Because there have been black people in Europe historically, and they've been portrayed in quite a bit of art (I'd wager more than Asians were desu).
>Or come close to what's considered beautiful in Japan.
There are black models and brands dedicated to urban "aesthetics" in Japan, and black celebrities who go there are pretty well-received.
AP Chief is just racist, let it be.

>>9850675
I meant what's traditionally considered to be beautiful. Fair skin. You can't really fight that one lol. I get you're upset you think she's racist but don't be silly and ignore facts.

>>9850675
It's like you intentionally misinterpreted that post to suit your argument.

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>>9850679
This has been such a nice thread so far, it really isn't the place for this discussion... Y'all know how heated and baity it can get. Can we just agree to disagree and go back to talking about designers?

>>9850679
Discriminating people on skin color is the very definition of racism. Fair skin is preferred, but I'm pretty sure most Japanese people don't point at anyone who's not completely fair-skinned and talk about how disgusted they are, kek.
I'm sorry the word "racist" makes you upset, but facts are facts. I didn't say she's Hitler.

>>9850688
You're the one who's getting upset and reaching here. If you'd take a moment to breathe and not just reee about racism you would have been able to understand my posts. But as is you just look like you're on some witch hunt. Not one did I say "it's fine for her to do" or "lol who cares if she's racist."

She's older, from a time where this is more acceptable(especially from somewhere like japan where xenophobia is almost to be expected), and made an insensitive comment.

Is she calling people n*ggers or committing hate crimes? No. Is she enforcing her preference on the brand she oversees? Yes. Is that a bad thing? Not really. It happens all the time.

>>9850692
NAYRT, but you said "to be fair", as if she was being bullied or something and you needed to defend her. She's racist, and pretty openly rude (as another anon said she got yelled at by this same woman for being too tall, and someone else described her as savage). Most people aren't like that, so it was worth mentioning. There's no real excuse like "Oh she's from a different time". It's just how she is, and it's especially odd in a culture where politeness and not being so brash about your opinions. That doesn't make her evil or whatever, but that's that.
Now chill out.

>>9850692
>It's just how she is, and it's especially odd in a culture where politeness and not being so brash about your opinions.
Ffs, sentence got cut off. I meant:
It's especially odd in a culture where politeness and not being so brash about your opinions is the norm (whatever they are).

>>9850696
>now chill out

I suggest you take your own advice. Are people not allowed to provide different perspective in an argument? My bad. I thought that was common but according to you it's not.

Higher ups in brands are rude all the time, higher ups in brands set their preference as a standard all the time. It's like you've never really experienced working with designers or brand owners before. Model doesn't look how the designer/owner wants? Then she's out. Tough shit. It's as simple as that.

Brands don't have to pander to what you think is fair. Was it shitty of her to single out someone from the crowd? Yes. Was it shitty of her to comment on how one of the models looked? No. That's her job lol. If the model doesn't look how she wants(too tall/too fat/too old/too dark) she's free to speak up about it.

>>9850700
Calm the fuck down and get back to the thread, no one actually cares.

>>9850701
>calm the fuck down

Take your own advice senpai.

>>9850702
My post was pretty calm, but okay.

>>9850704
Mine was too, clearly you're projecting something on to me. People can have discussions without everyone throwing a fit.

>>9850692
>Is she calling people n*ggers or committing hate crimes?
I never said she was. Being racist does not make you automatically Hitler. You're really going off over one word being used to describe a personality trait of someone you don't even know. Xenophobia is common, yes, but if you've actually been to Japan or gone outside, most people don't really act as savage as she did.
No one's reee'ing here but you, typing these Reddit spaced essays. Let's just agree to disagree like >>9850687 said, this isn't the time or place.

>>9850710
>complaining about "reddit spacing"

Reeeing at its finest. This is how you know someone doesn't have an argument. Using paragraph breaks isn't "reddit spacing." How about instead of complaining about things that don't pertain to the discussion at hand you address my points and try and counter them? Unless you can't?

>>9850705
I wasn't even involved in this conversation, I can just tell it's going left. No one who clicked on this thread is interested in race discourse. Take it to Lolcow if it's so important to you.

>>9850714
Then why interject? If you really find it so distasteful wouldn't you hide/ignore the posts? Cmon now.

>>9850712
>ignores entire post to complain about me pointing out reddit spacing, then complains about me not addressing their points even though I very clearly did in the same post they're replying to
I get it now, this was an elaborate plan. These crossboarders are getting crafty. No more (You)s from this point, back to designers.

>>9850722
>can't continue on with a valid counter argument
>y-you must be b8

Classic.

>>9850723
>if I pretend not to read it, it's not there
>>>/r9k/

>>9850725
>maybe if I make more shit up it'll make me look better

Didn't you say you were going to stop responding in your last post? Wheres your conviction?

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>>9850665
This is why we can't have nice things. Shut the fuck up.

>>9850729
No u

>>9850717
Maybe not everyone wants to sift through tons of useless posts and have to hide them to get to the good stuff

>>9850732
Why are you even on 4chan then?

Stop replying to master baiters.

Anyway, anyone have experiences with Mana?

>>9849845
Did Misako say it in English?

>>9850393
I've met her but she didn't say anything and didn't allow pictures even though she looked cute

>>9850744
Darn it. I know she doesn’t allow pics, which is why I wondered if she was cute. I’ve heard it’s because she’s very shy and has anxiety but idk. I’d like to meet her a lot desu

>>9850393
I met her at a tea party. As the other anon said no pictures, but she is very sweet. She went to each table and made sure she talked to every person. She was excited seeing people wear AP and would ask questions about their coords, hair or wigs and accessories. She has a cute pink streak in her hair.
>>9850734
I got his autograph at Sakuracon but I really don't think that counts. He nodded his head at me, signed my item then shook my hand. His hands are incredibly soft and I was surprised since he plays guitar, but it was nice. Not much to share besides that though.

>>9850773
>His hands are incredibly soft
Nayrt but I'm so jealous, holy shit. What did you have him sign?

>>9850773
Did she talk to people in Japanese? She really didn't talk to anyone besides staff at the event I met her at.

>>9850776
I had him sign one of my Moitie keychains since I don't own posters of him and I only own KERA and not the GLB (which will be changing soon). He signs with Moi meme Moitie instead of his brand which is interesting and I kind of wonder why since not every one of his fans is into his brand.
>>9850794
She had a translator walk around with her and that's how she was able to communicate. Some girls that spoke japanese had conversations with her that way but I wouldn't say she gave them preference or more time.

I met the VM designer Nimu when I worked the VM booth at a con, she was so sweet and tried really hard to converse with me in English.
She also gave me umeboshi candy saying it was her favourite flavor. I didn’t realize it would be so sour and salty so you can imagine the constipated face I made trying not to grimace. She was also nice enough to follow me on instagram.
I also probably creeped out Akira when I stared at her in the lobby of a hotel while I was waiting to get my staff badge.

I've met the designers of Victorian Maiden and Juliette et Justine.

VM's designer was nice, polite but at the same time a bit reserved. She came to me and asked if she could take a picture of my outfit. She complimented me of my outfit like 10 times. I tried to ask her a few (not complicated to understand) questions but then she excused herself. She understood English quite well, but didn't talk back much (maybe she was a bit insecure about her own English skills).

JetJ's designer was hilarious, she has a really funny and outgoing personality. She also came to me and asked to take pictures of me. Her English was so-so but she was still talkative and not afraid of making mistakes and just kept going with the skills she had. We talked for a few minutes and when I left she said goodbye and gave me a short hug (which I thought was a bit unusual for a Japanese person).

>>9850759
Her nose is a little big if you’re going to get critical, but imo she’s cute.