/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

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>>9842093
>Do you think it's okay to wear to (big) meets?
I think it's like any other kind of social gathering; you wouldn't wear jeans and a t shirt to a fancy event, so you probably shouldn't wear a simple skirt and a cutsew to a fancy tea party. You can do it, no one will kick you out, but you'll look very underdressed and generally look like you missed the point of the event.

I do love casual lolita though; it's kind of a must for daily wear, but at the same time it's got its own charm, like it looks more "natural" and a little more like "real" clothes compared to fancier stuff, if that makes sense.
Not a fan of the strange perception that some people have of it though, that you supposedly can look like shit wearing frumpy/ill fitting things and get away with it because it's a casual coord. I'm not even sure where this came from, it's as if people got so used to fancy OTT coords that they forgot how (or never even tried) to dress simply, and that kind of makes me sad.

>>9842144
Last time I went to a big lolita event , there was someone wearing a cutsew dress. It was very cute and didn't look out of place at all. Casual lolita isn't comparable to wearing jeans to a fancy place imo. The point of big meets/events isn't to dress OTT, it's to meet special guests and stuff.

>>9842162
You really saying you'd wear the same kind of coord to a fancy tea party as you would hanging out with friends in lolita?

>>9842168
Yes

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>>9842169
Idk what to tell you anon. Most people have the knowledge that that's not really socially acceptable and you dress based on the occasion.

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I actually prefer casual lolita to more ott styles. Ott is nice and looks good, and it's fun to put together an elaborate coord for a tea party or something, but I often see people who only wear ott lolita and don't know how to wear or coord it as an everyday fashion. Lolita fashion is so versatile and beautiful and I think it's a shame it isn't worn more as an everyday fashion. There's a lot of pressure within the lolita community to have the biggest poof or hat or the most ostentatious coord, and the coords that get the most likes on CoF are usually the big ott coords, so I think newbies see this and think that ott is the only way to wear lolita, which is just so sad to me.

>>9842186
If casual lolita to a big meet is like wearing jeans to a fancy club, wearing OTT is like wearing a huge ballgown

>>9842191
No offense but how do you know they don't wear more toned-down lolita outside meets, and that they don't see it as an everyday fashion?

>>9842162
You can still look cute in casual, but I disagree that it doesn't look out of place at a fancy event.

>>9842199
Nayrt, but it's pretty obvious when they don't dress according to the meet. Like you're going somewhere casual and they still dress in OTT.

>>9842194
Not a good comparison; wearing a huge ballgown in an event where others are also wearing huge ballgowns is perfectly acceptable.

>>9842199
It's not always the case of course but it's fairly common to see. You even see this
>lolita isn't an everyday fashion lol who would wear this every day??
sort of view being spouted by people outside of lolita too, whose only impression of the fashion is its current OTT incarnation.

>>9842194
Yeah, but I'd say going to a major brand event is like the number one occasion when it IS appropriate to wear OTT. Because it's as fancy of an event as you get with lolita. Wearing casual to it is fine if you want to, but like everyone else is saying it's out of place.

>>9842206
I guess my comm is just much less OTT than yours

casual doesn't equal toned-down, you can still look nice wearing more comfy fabrics
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>>9842213
Do you not know what the word casual means?

>>9842162
It was so relaxing for my eyes to see this after all the stuffy outfits from UTS event. I still consider this as the most memorable outfit from there.

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>>9842217
If I saw someone wearing these to a larger tea party event I'd assume they lack social awareness/are sloppy

>>9842098
that's a dude

>>9842093
>casual
>lolita
pick one and only one

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>>9842223
bait
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>>9842210
Nope, my comm is actually pretty outdated as far as style goes and many girls dress rather simply, especially compared to coords you often see on social media. Most of them don't wear lolita outside of meets though, either because their jobs won't allow it or they're not confident enough for it, by their own admission.

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>>9842213
>casual doesn't equal toned-down
lmao what? That's exactly what casual means.

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>>9842218
Sorry, I'm a non-native speaker and I thought it meant more discrete, solid main-pieces. I wouldn't have called these casual coords with busy main-pieces toned-down myself.
>>9842235

It's hilarious how much better a fit looks when the ugly face is covered up. Casual doesn't mean visually repulsive, by the way.

>>9842239
harsh but true

>>9842238
>discreet, solid main pieces
Casual can mean that, solid pieces are certainly easier to wear casually both because of their appearance and because they're easier to take care of; but prints can be worn casually too. The coords you've posted are good examples.

>>9842219
a lot of the UTS coords were shit. Literally shit.

>>9842093
>Do you think it's okay to wear to (big) meets?
Yeah, I think something like >>9842096 or pic related wouldn't look weird in my comm. But only a minority of girls in my comm wear OTT (including to events or fancy meets). Wearing old-school would look more out of place in my comm but of course it would also be accepted.
To normies it all looks equally weird so whatever, you should wear the lolita style you love the most. If you prefer casual lolita, why force yourself to dress OTT for a meet?

>>9842253
I was talking about what I thought toned-down means

>>9842239
>fit
opinion discarded /fa/ baitposter

contributing one of my all-time favs

>>9842286
This is so cute but I feel if she had a small red bow in her hair it'd tie it all in and make this a 10/10

>>9842312
I don't know, anything more would lean more towards normal coord, and not casual

>>9842325
I'm not talking about a large one, but maybe like a smaller clip. It just feels off to me this way. She doesn't seem to have any other accessories so I don't think an extra hair clip would push it out of casual territory

>>9842325
She is already wearing a big bow anyway. I don't think hair accessories decide if it's casual lolita, the important thing is wearing a cutsew or cardigan instead of a blouse.

>>9842225
>country of sweets print
>perfume bottle purse
>shoehorned blue
>the color of those shoes

Holy shit if it were a western she'd already be on the ita thread

>>9842220
Her cardigan says Baby?? I'm surprised

>>9842354
I post good and bad coords. I think it's more fun to discuss them that way and thinking of improvements can also inspire you.

>>9842360
I think they're customers, not staff?

With every new Casual Lolita thread the line between casual and just normal non-ott lolita keeps getting more and more blurry.
To me like at least a third of coords posted here are not casual, they're just lolita coords. There's nothing casual about >>9842219 or >>9842216 (they're a bit plain because there's only so much you can do with a long-sleeved OP, but plain coords are not inherently casual).

>the important thing is wearing a cutsew or cardigan instead of a blouse
>wearing a cardigan instead of a blouse
What if you wear a cardigan OVER a blouse like >>9842144 or >>9842286 because it's cold outside? Again, a simple but well-balanced and polished coord does not automatically become casual if you slap a cardigan onto it. I'd agree about other types of outerwear, like hoodies or biker jackets, but there's nothing inherently casual about cardigans.
This is all just my opinion, of course, feel free to disagree. It just saddens me that, while the general trends have been shifting from OTT to a more normal, "traditional" wearable style, said wearable style continues to be lumped in with casual, which I think it is not.

>>9842337
incorrect. you can coord a cutsew in a fancy way.
if you accessorize too much it's no longer casual. it's about the feel. it has to look comfortable and chill imo.

>>9842373
I think it's because there is no differentiation between business casual, smart casual, and casual. It's all labeled casual or lolita.

>>9842373
This is a cutsew >>9842216

>>9842375
Casual lolita is about using casual clothes like hoodies. You can wear a hoodie with a busy glitter print and it's still casual lolita even though it's kind of OTT for normies.

>>9842373
Did you prefer the casual threads that were just full of old-school re-posts? Maybe you just don't like what lolita has become in general (more prints and accessories)? Cutsew sack dresses are the new casual lolita imo.

>>9842378
>business casual, smart casual, and casual
?? we're not talking about normie distinctions. Casual Lolita is a legit substyle.
>>9842382
that's true, I agree. items like hoodies, salopettes, mini skirts, trainers and such more often than not indicate casual. but you can also coord with other items and still be casual.
like shortsleeve blouse, no petti, sandals, and barette instead of KC.

>>9842396
dumping

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>>9842416

So what specifically makes a coord a "casual lolita" coord and not just a normal wearable coord? Some people in this thread are saying that coords with cutsews, flat/comfy shoes, and minimal accessories are the tenets of casual lolita. However, I've seen coords like Fanny Rosie's coords or pic related that are described as casual.
Is it the overall "feel" of a coord, or the specific clothing items used (skirt, cardigan/bolero, cutsew, etc) that make it "casual lolita?"
Perhaps the definition of casual lolita has changed somewhat with the rise of OTT, since less fancy/more wearable everyday coordinates seem casual in comparison to OTT.

>>9842396
I know? But that's why people think casual lolita is all over the place. Because sometimes it is really casual and other times it's borderline.

>>9842429
>coords like Fanny Rosie's coords or pic related that are described as casual.
I don't see anyone describe them like that. Are you looking at the tags? People like her wil tag with anything as long as they think people are looking at those tags. There are apps that show you which tags your target group uses, that's why there are Japanese shops that tag with stuff like ''eglcommunity''.

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>>9842434
These are definitely not casual lolita. They're just lolita. When people disagree about casual lolita, it's usually with coords such as >>9842412 and >>9842404, where nothing really makes it casual lolita (imo), but that anon probably posted them because they broke the ''rule'' of not wearing legwear.

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>>9842206
There are a lot of girls in my comm who bristle at the idea of doing anything in lolita aside from sit around drinking tea or pose for pictures. They’re not lifestylers, they actually think that doing everyday things in brand (like pop by the store or feed your cat) is for edgelords or that people must be lying about doing those things in brand, because when they get home they immediately change into something more comfortable. I think they forget that not all brand is covered in layers of delicate chiffon ruffles, because I don’t see how going to the store wearing something like >>9842144 could be considered edgy or unreasonable.

>>9842429
This isn't casual it's 'wearable' as in, it's cohesive and breaks that magical barrier between 'I can see myself wearing this in daily wear' and '..only for events'

>>9842380
It doesn't matter to me, I agree with >>9842375 just using a certain type of item (cutsew, cutsew OP, cardigan) automatically makes a coord casual. I agree with what >>9842382 and >>9842396 say, it becomes casual if you pair lolita with comfy non-lolita items like hoodies, T-shirts, comfy shoes, etc.
Cutsews I think can't be 100% categorized as either a casual or non-casual item, because some cutsews look more like a blouse with a fancy collar and sleeves, and some look like straight up burando T-shirts. Also cutsews can look very different with a JSK and a skirt.
IDK man, I just think it's wrong to try and define casual lolita with a set of check boxes, like does it have a cutsew? Does it have a cardigan? Because things like that are highly debatable.
I think >>9842396 came up with the closest definition of what items make a coord casual that I agree with.

>>9842389
Naw, I'm more of a newfag so I don't associate casual lolita with oldschool. I think you can very easily wear a cutsew OP in a casual way (for example with sandals or cute slip-ons), but as stated above I don't agree that a cutsew OP is inherently casual - you can take it and dress it up or down.
Like I said, it's just how I feel about calling specific things casual, not saying everyone has to agree.

Obligatory self post because I primarily wear casual to school / work

>>9842457
you know people going to have a negative reaction to this right? i'd delete while i still could, but i'm a very insecure person so that's just me

>>9842373
While I agree with you, I would wager that everyone has at least a few regular/plain non OTT coords tucked in their casual folder.
All of this is very nebulous.

About the coords that get posted here mistakenly.
They aren't casual, they're lolita for sure, but they are more wearable than most of the rest of the fashion.
They just look comfortable and you can imagine they'd be more accepted when worn out.
Regardless of the initial punk intent to stand out, 'casual lolita' I think fits that niche of wanting to wear lolita clothes, look put together, but worry less about negative attention.

We have this gripe every thread, we discuss it every thread, is there really anything else to discuss?

>>9842458
It's either a vendetta or she's here to troll, either way rip thread.

>>9842457
at least tuck in your sweater or something, this looks frumpy af

>>9842464
Damn I was really looking forward to a nice casual thread. Whether it was hoodies with skirts or burando you could wear to the office, I love these kinds of threads (because that's pretty much what I wear).

>>9842463
I think you're projecting when you assume we worry about negative attention

>>9842457
everything about you is gross.

>>9842457
Oh honey...

>>9842475
Maybe so, goes back to the 'nebulous' part.
As many reasons behind it as there are ways casual branches out.

>>9842489
but it's not that nebulous. most coords posted in this thread are casual lolita, only a few of them aren't and they've already been pointed out. there are more newfags posting the wrong thing in this thread compared to threads for other substyles, because they get less exposure to casual lolita compared to other substyles. that's because people don't tend to post their casual lolita coords online.

>>9842502
But what makes them casual is different, it's not formulaic.
I'm not disagreeing with you, maybe I'm just not on the right wavelength.

>>9842463
>We have this gripe every thread, we discuss it every thread, is there really anything else to discuss?

I mean, I've already admitted to being on the newfag side, so I guess sorry for wanting to discuss something that's been discussed before?
Culture shapes the mind and then the mind shapes the culture, so the distinction between "casual coords & comfortable coords that can be worn casually" is interesting for me to discuss, like >>9842389 said, the perception of what is casual lolita is changing over time, and, among other things, these threads affect that perception and how it shifts.
I know some people come to threads like this to look at pic dumps, but that's not as interesting to me, I can google some images at any moment, if a thread is interesting to me I like to talk about stuff.
It's more fun to me than just idly watching the dumps slide by until all of it inevitably drowns in someone's vendetta.

>>9842506
nothing in lolita is formulaic when you think about it like that. you see the same type of arguments with newfags arguing about all black sweet coords in the gothic thread.

>>9842507
Imo cutsew dresses are now included in casual lolita, but the standard look is still skirt + t-shirt/cutsew. It just changed to include more things, just like all other lolita substyles have evolged with new fabrics and prints.
>I can google some images at any moment
A lot of people tag their coords with casual lolita even though it isn't.

>>9842507
Imo cutsew dresses are now included in casual lolita, but the standard look is still skirt + t-shirt/cutsew. It just changed to include more things, just like all other lolita substyles have evolved with new fabrics and prints.
>I can google some images at any moment
A lot of people tag their coords with casual lolita even though it isn't.

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>>9842184
I love this

>>9842529
I love the schoolgirl shoes, they're very trendy right now. And lol for not giving a fuck about her bag not matching because she just wants to carry her husbando.

>>9842464
Sigh, you are probably right.
Dunnoif it's really her but omeone is definintely trolling.
Every time stoner-chan, Voldie or Ophelia get posted (or selfpost?) the thread turns into shitstorm central 9 out of 10 times.

>>9842536
It can still be saved

>>9842311

This is my all time favorite causal coord too, anon.

It is also what I think of when I hear 'casual' in regards to lolita. It still looks lolita, but it looks comfy and easy to wear. Quite a few of the things in this thread don't even look lolita, despite having a lolita brand piece. I wouldn't call that casual lolita at all. It still has to be lolita to be casual lolita.

>>9842542
that's because you care more about your old perception of what casual lolita is supposed to be according to the handbook or whatever you read when you first started, and you forget to consider what brands actually release nowadays.

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>>9842557
This girl makes a lot of really cute casual coords imo

>>9842529
That Gintoki itabag is A+++, she has good taste in husbandos

>>9842560
I know this one isn't very strict on the lolita rules but honestly, that denim jacket looks really cute.

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>>9842563
>the lolita rules

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>>9842213
I love this! While I probably wouldn't wear it to a meet (gotta bring out my poof game to assert dominance over all the other lolitas) this is pretty much what I aim for in casual attire. I would love to see more coords incorporating brand parkas!

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>>9842565
Delete this from your casual lolita folder

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>>9842098
>black bra
There's casual, and then there's sloppy.

>>9842439
Is >>9842223 a member of your community?

I came here to post some more experimental coords but I'm thinking y'all aren't ready

>>9842213
I love this! While I probably wouldn't wear it to a meet (gotta bring out my poof game to assert dominance over all the other lolitas) this is pretty much what I aim for in casual attire. I would love to see more coords incorporating brand parkas!

>>9842599
dude.. >>9842572

>>9842457
i know she lurks here and acts like a dolt here but i think this must be a troll, even she can't be enough of a dingbat to selfpost like this

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>>9842563

Honestly, these are ita to me

>>9842511
I would argue that while it's a similar scenario, there are elements that distinguish sweet in black from gothic, and the elements of casual are less distinct.
It's like one outfit over another feels like it's casual and as long as other people agree then it is.

>>9842600
Yeah man idk what happened, I pressed post, and then went to do something else and somehow in the interim my browser decided that double posts are a fun trick

>>sage for misbehaving technology

>>9842606
I don't see how it's hard to understand that a normal lolita coord with a blouse is not casual lolita

>>9842596
Post a couple, test the water
I like seeing new shit even if it isn't good

>>9842608
Huh?

>>9842596
Do itttt

>>9842457
...... I've said this already: you have SO many awesome older sisters in your comm. PLEASE ask them for advice and stop posting on CGL, girl. They will ALL tell you to STAY AWAY. Sincerely, ex-comm member who's already learned her lesson

>>9842596
DO IT, I WAS BORN READY

>>9842457
less petti and tuck your sweater in would be a good start, still ugly tho

>>9842098
Gross.

>>9842566
I love her coords.

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>>9842790
I hate this. looks like one of those fake geek grils trying to be lolita.

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>>9842829

The majority of this thread is just regular lolita coords, they aren’t casual and they aren’t OTT. Just like what you would wear to a normal comm meet up or hanging out with friends.

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>>9842841
end dump

>>9842843
why does she always look so unhappy and hunched over

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>>9842582
how about delete its existence

>>9842883

How did we forget what casual lolita was in the transition between Livejournal and Facebook? I remember on egl/daily_lolita, casual lolita was never a hot button issue. Mininal accesories, flat shoes, a simple hairstyle or natural colored wig, presence of a cardigan or cutsew instead of a blouse, usually skirts or JSKs instead of OPs, light makeup, a bit less "polished" than a perfect coordinate. I also would say proper casual lolita isn't going to be heavy with pints either. Like this: >>9842096 seems more busy than >>9842107 because of the formers use of printed tights. I think the actual design of the dress or skirt needs to come into factor as well. There are some dresses that just cannot be worn in a casual way because of all the extra frills and bows and lace tacked onto it.

A lot of the outfits in this thread, imo, are either straight up lolita (like >>9842229, which is an example of a dress too busy to wear casually) or lolita items worn in a non lolita context (like >>9842184)

From a 2006 post on egl
>Casual Loli in my eyes is about keeping the essential aesthetics of the fashion itself but being slightly more relaxed on certain points! Things like Petticoats, Bloomers, Knee High Socks, Headdress etc... Are not be worried about, but it's still really important to keep the overall shape of the fashion, like you said, certain things can be altered to suit your daily routine, like having T-Shirts instead of full blown blouses but the correct length of skirts & such like are still to be kept in mind…

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>>9842213
I have this skirt and parka. Nice to know some one considers it lolita.

>>9842937

What the fuck is this thread? Literally most of this isn't casual its just lolita

>>9842831
Why don't you contribute? I think it's interesting someone else thinks the stuff in this thread is barely recognizable as lolita

>>9842930
Lolita has changed since the old-school days. If AP's most popular cut is high-waisted OPs (to the point they don't even release skirts anymore) it's only logical that pic related is meant as casual lolita. Even their cutsews often have chiffon parts now and they don't release t-shirts and parkas anymore.

>>9842981
So would you wear this to a big meet? Excluding the coords with blouses

>>9843045
Nayrt but yes.

>>9842981
More than half of the girls in this thread are wearing a cutsew/t-shirt/parka. Please point out which ones aren't casual lolita? I made a start but I might've missed a couple.

>>9842144
>>9842184 not lolita
>>9842200
>>9842219 but wasn't posted as casual lolita
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>>9842429 but newfag with genuine questions
>>9842434 same newfag
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>>9842953

>inb4 everything that looks too busy/gaudy isn't casual lolita
Lolita stands out no matter what, and most of us don't buy old-school, so prints, chiffon and ruffles it is.

>>9842181
not lolita.

>>9843104
Sauce on that amazing dress?

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>>9842843
This isn't casual at all, but it's still cute!

>>9847269
To be honest, I wouldn't call it lolita at all. The only lolita thing here is skirt with a good shape. It's too little even for a casual lolita.
It will be better to add bows on twin tails, wear detachable round collar instead of choker and change shoes to more appropriate. So little effort to make it good for a casual look.

>>9847385
What if it's casual punk lolita

Baby has some really comfy and cute cutsew dresses in stock

>>9842790
I really like red and navy with chocolate stuff, but from the neck up and the knees down this looks awful. Her hair looks fried and wtf is that sock length and shoe choice

>>9847393
Then shoes are ok.

>>9843070
gosh what a babe. she's so cute here

>>9842851
Because she's bulimic

I love that there are people in this thread who complain this is not casual enough, and at the same time there are people who complain that it's too casual and therefor not lolita anymore.

>>9847265
I love daring outfits like this.

>>9842930
I'm with you anon, an out of touch oldie that still pretty much defines casual lolita this way. I actually love cutsews in lolita and miss some of the goth and punkier screen print designs you used to see - they added interest to the simplicity and kept everything cohesive.

When it comes to t-shirt / cutsew print design the possibilities are endless, yet you see so few around.

>>9852897
Agreed. Printed cutsews need a renaissance.

>>9842543
Not everything a brand release is lolita

>>9857440
How is this casual?

>>9857567
It isn't, anon probably left in shame after posting that

>>9842093
>Do you think it's okay to wear to (big) meets?
Yes, I think it's totally fine. It bothers me more when someone's coord isn't weather appropriate.

Casual lolita means you integrade non-lolita casual fashion pieces into your coord, not non-OTT. Majority of the outfit's wouldn't be called casual lolita in Japan, only plain.

>>9858555
>Casual lolita means you integrade non-lolita casual fashion pieces into your coord
What the fuck? Says who? You can wear all brand and still be casual.

>>9842563
I will always love this so much.

>>9858555
This reply is wrong and you should feel bad about it.

>>9847385
Bottom half looks fine, the shoes work if you are inspired by old school or punk. Agree that the top needs more ruffles. Two pink hair ties from BABY or similar and a fake collar (or even just a necklace with ribbon/s like image) would have made this coord a really cool casual. I'd nitpick the length of the shirt, but it is fitted to not interfere with the silhouette so I'll let it slide.

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>>9866220

I'm a gothic lolita, and imo, it's so much more difficult to do casual gothic. A big part of casual, for me, is using solids instead of prints, and gothic already tends to focus more on construction and structure, so even the less dressy stuff is going to be pretty fancy to normies.

>>9842416
She really can't dress herself when she's not copying old school snaps.

>>9866333
>to normies
Normie standards aren't really relevant here, to be fair.
It depends a lot on what kind of gothic lolita you wear, but Moitie has released plenty of cutsews, and some old brand cutsews feature gothic designs... and you can also wear something like pic related and it's perfectly fine for casual gothic.

>>9866333
I'm also a gothic lolita. I mainly dress casual, because I often wear it as daily clothes (don't want too much trouble dressing in the morning, or doing chores all day). It's imho quite easy. Friend of mine same story, she even wears it to work. Works as retail seller for expansive clothing brands like Armani, and it's casual enough that they're fine with it.

>>9866338
sauce?

>>9866500
https://lolibrary.org/items/iw-tea-party-of-the-wonderland-op

>>9866333
what's with all the ophelia hate lately? that casual outfit is just as good as any other in this thread

>>9866333
It doesn't matter what normies think. Casual lolita is when you wear cutsew or tshirts instead of a blouse. Prints can still be casual lolita. In Japan (where lolita is from) lolita prints aren't that showy compared to kimono prints.

>>9842851
Because's physically weak and she leans against the wall to make her legs look longer

>>9867086
Can you newfags stop pulling the, "well, in JAPAN," card as if it gives your bullshit any more credibility.

Japanese casual lolita =/= Western casual lolita

>>9866686
Look at the wrinkly untucked tshirt, the distractingly fancy wristcuffs in an otherwise unembellished coord, the awful ponytails that look like what every little black girl wears to kindergarten when it's her dad's turn to do her hair... I don't hate Ophelia at all but this outfit is really bad.

>>9866504
This is so beautiful and I never would have even looked at it with the collar and cuffs on. Why did IW hide such a great design with those tacky things?

>>9867124
I think my comm is more similar to Japanese lolitas than American lolitas.

>>9866333
>>9867124
you are the only person I've ever come across who thinks solids=casual lolita

>>9867128
I'm honestly fine with the collar and cuffs, it's the embroidery on the collar that I don't like. Having said that, I think it's always good to have OPs with removable parts like this, especially if you wear lolita often, it makes creating diverse looks a lot easier.
This OP was actually on sale for a while, and if IW doesn't bring it back to their next sale, it'll probably be in their next round of lucky packs.

>>9866686
Whenever anyone get's really popular really fast they get shit on right after until it normalizes. Same thing happened to HD anon on here.

>>9867384
HD anon and ophelia both put themselves in the spotlight

>>9867124
I mean a cutsew + a printed skirt looks a lot more casual than a blouse under a solid jsk

>>9867388
By posting? Ok.

>>9867397
She posts herself everywhere, makes videos about herself, makes blog posts about herself etc.

>>9867409
Which one in particular?
Ophelia is trying to make it as a witch house artist, and putting out a lot of content could only help with that. I get really inspired by HD's content, so I've been encouraging her to post more, maybe it's a combination of 'this is fun for me' and 'people want me to post more'
Is there something inherently wrong with any of that?

>>9867429
did anyone say it's wrong? i'm just saying that if you put yourself out there so much, people who are not interested will also see it and some of those people may eventually get annoyed by it.

>>9867451
I don't agree.
It's not because they post too often, it's just that mediocre girls trying really hard for years don't like seeing people successfully take off in the community when they're new to the scene.
I'm just waiting for when it happens to that Pr***illa girl too.

>>9842812
whats the name of this skirt?

>>9867487
priscilla?

>>9867487
Neither of them are new

>>9852897
The lilac Cinema Cat cutsew in your collage is the biggest PITA to coord casually. The ruffle finishes at the hip which makes it look plain odd with anything except low-waisted skirts, and as you can see from the stock photo it doesn't actually match any of the AP lavender shades, it's really blue.

>>9867857
Ophelia came back hard then, because it was wham, wall of content
HD anon totally got shit on when she was starting out, she hadn't been in the fashion a year before she became a popular face.

>>9842184
This is not casual Lolita or even lolita. It's just a dress. There's no petticoat or lolita styling. Just a dress doesn't make the Lolita fashion

>>9868506
Who is HD anon? I am so out of the loop

>>9868555
Hospitality Doll anon, KL

>>9868531
Wow you really brought a new insight to the thread

what is the equivalent of this stuff for men? I remember reading it here but I can't remember what it is called

>>9874512
Ouji. Supposedly aristocrat style (or what Moi Meme Moitie sells under this label) can also be quite casual. Check out the boystyle thread for more info >>9715254

>>9874523
this stuff kind of just looks silly.. I don't think I could never wear this

>>9874639
so wear lolita

>>9874649
I'm a man

>>9874650
as long as you dont look like a man and style yourself decently it doesnt matter. see this post:
>>9842812

>>9874650
Uh, wear lolita

>>9842787
Her Instagram is the epitome casual Lolita

>>9867126
tbf I got that photo from a years's old D_L post...
I still think it's fine for casual. it's very chill and I'm glad she chose to wear wristcuffs since the skirt has much lace.

>>9847421
Yes please

>>9874639
Ouji and aristo can be very elegant, what's posted in the thread isn't the end all be all of of these styles; but an alternative that you can check out is Victorian inspired dandy, pic related. Just keep in mind that it's not jfash, it's certainly not casual (so OT to this thread), it can borderline on historical reenactment which is not what you want, and not every comm accepts this as part of the dress code for meets.

>>9874672
>>9874679
no. I'm a man , a manly man! I was interested to get into something /cgl/ related so that I can be welcome here. I'll just start trying to make cosplay instead

>>9875157
I never understood people like you.
Why would you want to be welcome to a group thet doesn't offer anything you like?
It's quite pathetic.

>>9875157
>I'm a man , a manly man!
And you're terrified of frills, how sad.

>>9875172
I like it a lot, I'm just not a girl.

>>9875179

You sound like yr tryna stir shit up gtfo

>>9875180
I don't know what you mean

>>9875172
Because there are a lot of NEETs on 4chan and sometimes they get bored of the other boards

>>9842205
>go to upscale place
>at least 4 girls out of 12 wear toned down casual
Why even go to a fancy establishment if you're not gonna dress up? What about those who over dress to coffee shops.
It's almost like you can't control what others do.

>>9842609
You just want something to shit on

>>9875008
I'm sorry but I gotta say it:
Daaaamn I never thought a guy would look so hot in victorian era clothes!

>>9875200
Most lolita meets are not at a fancy establishment are they?

>>9875222
You don't need to be sorry for stating the truth. :^)

I have a question.
If someone wanted to dress in ouji fashion would it be possible to make it look casual but still look like ouji at the same time?

>>9875225
My comm has half n half for sure. We either go to fancy tea expensive hotel meets or bar or coffee cafes.
They also do outdoor meets but I never go to those cause they usually happen in the summer and I hate the heat.

>>9875222
Never watched period dramas? Lolitas love that shit

>>9875240
Never heard of period dramas. What are they?

>>9875246
Honestly, anon,
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=period+dramas

>>9875230
Nothing unusual is ever good enough for cgl, especially ouji coords. Js.

>>9875253
Sometimes I think to myself wondering why I'm so stupid.

>>9875230
Probably not, if you're a guy then anything remotely ouji is way fancier than the normal casual and if you're a girl then menswear inspired stuff is generally more formal looking and suit-inspired anyway rather than drawn from "casual"

>>9883400
This coord isn't very good imo. Not sure if it's the color balance, the hat, the hair, the unflattering way the belt is cinching her waist... but something about it looks off. She normally looks incredibly elegant, but I suppose it's true that nothing and no one is perfect, and sometimes experienced lolitas stumble too.

>>9885729
this looks so awkward imo, it's like the clothes are wearing her and not the other way around. it honestly looks like a lolita told her normie sister to raid her lolita closet and this is what the sister came up with.

>>9885906
I think it's the cardigan and scarf together with that pose and picture quality. It looks like something that would've been posted on myspace. It's not bad and it's even cute in a nostalgic way imo, but it looks super outdated.

>>9885912
The simple tank top(?) isn't helping, either.

>>9884225
I think it's a mix of the analogous color scheme and using a combination of black and white accent pieces? I don't hate it, but I think it could be improved.

>>9886142
She's not wearing anything black or white, just brown and some beige.

>>9886149
It's probably the monitor I'm using. Still not an overall fan, but that makes it seem better.

>>9866213
i want to hate this, but it's honestly pretty cute.

It saddens me that more than half of this thread is just regular non OTT lolita, not casual lolita..

>>9890850
People have different ideas of what constitutes as casual; someone who's used to wearing OTT would see regular, basic lolita coords as casual because they don't incorporate giant hair accessories/veils/underskirts etc., whereas someone who wears lolita regularly might think that the cutsew+skirt combination is what casual is.
In the same vein, normies can look at an actual casual lolita coord and think it's dressed up and fancy. It's a matter of perspective, really. If you have pics of coords that you find casual, you're free to post them.

>>9890850
Regular lolita coords have a blouse

>>9842093

>>9892447
How do you make your hair so big