/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9832143
second

I did a bit of work on Nethergundam today. Note; these are the BACKSIDE of the blades. They need a bit of editing, but essentially served as a test. The front will be done a little different. I might soften up some of the weathering, but I just feel like Nethergundam is such a loser, he won't be perfectly clean...

>>9832148
Ah, you mean the 'graphic design' piece? True, that is Gio's writing. But with the conventions he has been organising, I agree as well, he should not do that anymore. I think he is a good person to help out. He has a lot of connections.

>>9832171
Nice

>>9832178
Even if Nethergundam was a winner, it had spend most of its time exposed to the elements while disguised as a windmill. All the rain, dirt, sand and strong winds from the spring storms would had totally dirtied it up.

>>9832171
Nice

>>9832226
Yeah absolutely. It's a gross motherfucker.

>>9832143
OP, what would I do without you? That giant crab never saw it coming!

So who's hyped for Dutch Comic Con this weekend!!!!!

>>9832649
I'm going Saterday.
First I wanted to go a weekend. But I'm pretty tired from my exams, so I've only got the energy for one day.

>>9832649
Not really.

>>9833143
How come?

I gotta be honest, I've seen a lot of complaining on the DCC facebook page because of the guests they got

>>9833153
To me it's just a huge market where I can meet some friends.
Guests sitting behind a desk so I can pay for some picture is not my thing. Which means not much is left in the program. So, for me it is nice, but not much more.

>>9833153
>>9833160

Yeah, it's mostly looking around, chatting with friends, maybe buy something and leave. I think it's a good thing its only from 10 until 6 / 5

Thanks op for reminding me to do my taxes. Would be nice if I get money back this year. Aliexpress sales are making me want to spend more than I should.

I just saw Tomo posting this in their events... What is this even supposed to be? Is this supposed to be serious?

>>9833204
yet another reason why I stopped going since 2016. Tomo is a joke, a payed get together. It's fun for younger (read teenaged) cosplayers. I don'doubt that. But I mean come on....

>>9833204
Probably the panel they held with all characters was a succes. Simone her makeup is 90% of the time that bad. I'm suprised nobody told her.

>>9832649
DCC is just a market with a heap of bootleg and a collection of celebs with varying degrees of washed-outness. Unless someone shoves a ticket my way, I'm not planning on going.

>>9833204
The one on the left reminds me of rugrats..but crossed over with rocket power.

>>9833204
This is super cringey.. Whats up with the left chick?

>>9833204
Graphic Design is my Passion Part 2: TomoBoogaloo

>>9833401
>>9833434
It's mostly a side-effect of them not properly scaling and/or cropping their shit. The picture on the left is compressed vertically which greatly enhances the somewhat derpy expression she makes. Oddly enough she has a better picture of her in that outfit online so why they used this one is beyond me. Meanwhile the picture on the right is stretched out horizontally which makes her look a bit off as well. Finally we have a busy background and stretched out text which only makes this announcement look more chaotic.

>>9833518
Still looks terrible though.

>>9833541
Still better than the one tomo posted. Makes me wonder if tomo previewed this to them beforehand...

>>9833204
Those are two different people? They look like inbred siblings.

>>9833551
I believe they have to hand their documents over themselves?? I don't think Tomo editted it but the girls themselves. They gave it to Tomo so they could upload it.

new cosplay is done

>>9833735
It's so awesome. I love it!

>>9833773
Thanks!
Forgot my name tag but it's smoke obviously because wings

>>9833906
smoke&wings anon now

>filename

>>9834662

>>9832649
Me! *raises hand*

>>9833250
Enough people told her. She just doesn’t care.

How was The Party? Is it worth going to as a cosplayer apart from the competition?
These are the winners of the cosplay competition by the way:
1st: BuJa Cosprops (two reapers)
2nd: Alex from Roar & Clank Props (Monster Hunter)
3rd: Linny L'a Vante, Costumes (Diablo monk)

Smoke should have won at least something in my opinion.

Damn, walking on Utrecht Centraal and seeing all these cosplayers makes me wanna return to the hobby. Sucks that none of my new friends watch anime and my old friends moved on from cosplaying

>>9835462
Wait, did Linny compete with that same diablo monk cosplay again???

>>9835554

Go for it! Make some more new friends :D

>>9835558
Yes

Wasn't linny already called out for sandbagging?

>>9835657
Yup, but she made it already clear not to give a shit. So aslong as the organisation allows it, she'll do it.

>>9835657
>>9835672
Well in this case it's kind of allowed because she only won FACTS and Elfia with it apparently.

While technically allowed, I do think it's kind of bad taste to keep entering old costumes in contests. The entire point of regularly entering contests is showing off your skills and ability to make new costumes with consistency.

>>9835672
She's a cunt.

>>9835680

and dcc

>>9835688
But wasn't that with Mercy?

>>9835709

>>9835719
Oh, lame. Then it's even worse taste to enter it again.

I know it's been said that she can't make many costumes, in said time. My advice to anyone who can't make new costumes every year; don't compete until you have a new one.

>>9835721
She did commissions, I'm sure she'll be able to make a costume for herself, or like you said don't compete until you have a new one.

>>9835462
>Smoke should have won at least something in my opinion.
Thank you! Glad you like my costume. The competition however was really fierce and I think I took a bit too much hay on my fork in too little time (as usual). I was really happy with my performance though and this gives me plenty of feedback to perfect it for Animecon!

>>9836049
Do you want some cornflakes?

>>9836049
Wait you didn't? That's some grade A bullshit

>>9836366
Well, >>9836049 said it had to do with finishing? Apperently other costumes were better finished/polished?

I couldn't see the reapers up close of course, but they didn't seem that much better in terms of finishing. However, I wasn't a judge, I haven't done prejudging so I can't really say if this is true or not. I mean, something may look impressive on stage, it's the prejudging where the close ups, connections, construction and all that gets checked.
If there was prejudging, that is.

>>9835680
Elfia, Facts and DCC are all huge events.

This is what Theprty writes in their FAQ, I wonder what happened.

>>9837119
I personally don’t count Elfia as a huge contest. Yeah the event is huge, but the contest isn’t. Though they are improving.
FACTS is in Belgium, not sure how TheParty looks at that. I mean, technically it’s abroad, even if not that far.

>>9837119


The sidebar says "can I participate with a costume that I have used during another DUH- events competition"

Linny hasn't participated with her monk in another DUH- event competition right? So maybe that's why they allowed her to participate and win?

You know she's going to keep entering the costume as long as she can.

That's why we keep calling her a sandbagger.

I'm still looking for a qt Dutch girlfriend (near Leiden preferably)

Add me on discord Shadow #3658

When the number of your IQ is lower than your weight.

>>9837241

Go join DCD and ask for Linny, She loves easy wins ;)

>>9837253
Trust me, everyones IQ is lower than their weight

>>9837270
Damn anon that indeed is a good burn

>>9837270
Kek

>>9837283
>weigh 53 kg
Pretty sure if my IQ was that low I wouldn't even be able to formulate this post.

>>9833735
>>9834662
Looks great!

>>9837364
5/7 for this comeback

>>9837253
Gotta be careful not to cut on that edge.

>>9837270
Who or what is a Linny? Can someone give me some context? What happens if I try it?

>>9837534
Some sandbagger cosplay girl

>>9837253
Top tier qt3.14 on the left

Getting tired of these fake titties and botox faces, why is the dutch comm starting to look like american comic cons.

>>9837902
I'm just tired of people wearing fetish gear at conventions. Keep your fetish out of my casual cyberpunk lolita LAPR cosplay!

Judgemental much? Let people wear whatever they feel like wearing.

>>9838874

There is a time and place for everything, a comic con is not the place for you to be showing of your fetish gear.

At least furries have the decency to wear diapers/pants/clothes to cover up their fetish holes.

>>9837253
hey man, if I had 130 iq I'd still only be 131 lbs

>>9837098
Yeah there was a proper and thorough prejudging that took up the better part of the day.

>>9837119
>>9837201
>>9837207
Only international established contests and preliminaries (ecg, c4, yamato the whole animecon international compos) and previous Duh events competitions count for this rule. The rule was established because the competition is now 2 years old so previous costumes that won a prize cannot be entered again. For example my demon hunter won first place at Campzone (also their event) so it was not allowed for a prize at The Party 16.

>>9837372
Thank you!

>>9837902
Well, there are a few in the Dutch comm that have fake tits, but botox faces? Aren't you just confusing it with heavy make-up?

>>9837253
Oops, posted the wrong pic but can't delete it. This wasn't directed at B. Also I had nothing to do with FB. Sorry for the confusion!

>>9837270
Nice vendetta, maybe if you made some good cosplays you might win some compos. Stay salty hater ;^)

>>9839167
If it was an innocent mistake, just tell us in the Discord who you are.

>>9839075
That jessica rabbit girl looks like she had more done than just her tits.

>>9839203
*Good cosplay
After all you could just compete serveral times with the same outfit despite having won bigger compos with them.

>>9839203

You forgot to add your buckteeth to that emoji ;)

>>9839225
What I don't get is why people are complaining. If you know someone is participating with cosplay X, are you not at an advantage?

>>9839819
Because you're supposed to improve on your entries, sandbagging makes you seem lazy and looks like you're just trying to get an easy win.

Did anyone see ArkhamLedger at DCC?

>>9839819
Because it's a dick move to pull and shows a severe lack of dignity and common courtesy from the person in question. By winning first place in a competition you gain the recognition and praise that costume deserves. From that point on you'll have absolutely nothing to gain by competing with the same costume once more at any competition of the same or a lower level. Well, nothing except the right to brag with how amazing you must be for winning so many competitions with just two costumes. That's just pathetic really, especially from someone trying to build a brand around herself.

And what advantage? The only advantage here is how the sandbagger knows where they'll be likely to get an easy win. Or perhaps I should remind you of her stunt at DCC last year where she won in her Mercy outfit in which she had already won the WCM prelims at Animecon. But no, that little princess had no problems with it whatsoever just like she had no problems demanding FACTS to make an exception in their rules for her and getting upset when they refused.

>>9839888

It's so funny to see people be so
incredibly salty. " If she would not participate I would have won." Just level up your game, instead of dragging others down the mud.

Who is going to the tomo fair? (*enter your sarcastic comments about how great the tomo fair is below*)

>>9840159
It's a bit unfair if someone takes a year to build something and competes in every fucking compo ever with the same costume whilst others do have the common decency to make a new one or improve an old one for different competition.

The amount of time it costs and materials spend per compo is way higher in the second one. That girl is just out for cheap wins and it's pathetic as she shows no improvement at all. I do not compete myself, but as a regular visitor even I can see how much of a douchebag and entitled bitch that girl is at the moment.

>>9840213

If others are improving their cosplay they should be way better, right? So, why should it matter to them?

I don't want to be the white knight here, but how are you able to judges someone without having competed or cosplayed yourself? It's so easy to say shit like this without knowing the effort one could put into 1 cosplay. The fact that her cosplay wins even after a few years shows how much effort she put into it (probably more than other do).

What I can imagine is that is hard for beginner contestant. I totally agree on that, but for the "veterans" out there. Just be better.

>>9840257
"Not competing" does not equal "not cosplaying." Thank you for reading comprehension.
I understand what you mean, but isn't is a bit unfair to ask others to be better than her when talking about DCC? We all know this is not where the big competetors are.
Next to that, she joins a big competition and then goes for the small ones afterwards. So, she gets recognised for her work. She gets a big fucking prize and then decides it is not enough and joins the little leagues. Her competing multiple times with the same costume isn't the issue.
Her competing with the same costume in a big competition, winning said competition and going on to win multiple small ones with the same costume is.

>>9840272

Well in that case my bad about the cosplaying. But that's so inconsistent and stupid! So if any cosplayer would go from small to big it's no problem? That's just plain out dumb. Besides that, from what I have seen the competition (the level of cosplay) at the party was way higher than Facts or DCC. The event might be smaller, but the competition was certainly not.

>>9840285
If you win a no name competition like.. Tomo's or something and then decide to join Animecon's, no. The level of craftmanship is way higher then. Of course, you wouldn't expect someone with as much skills to join in the first place, so you'd be expecting someone would join with their very first handmade costume.

The level at the party is indeed higher, but that does not make it okay for her to still try and compete with the same costume for 3 years or so just to win some prizes. It does damage the image people have of her, especially the bigger people in the community (skilled cosplayers, organisers etc.)
For someone trying to make a brand it's not the best of choices. More so as she isn't even releasing new content this way.

>>9840285
In the end, it is all about respect for your fellow cosplayers. At least she is clear about how much she respects the community and organisers. Wouldn't be the first time she feels entitled to something because she thinks she's special in some way.

>>9840312

So it's technically is fine, but people are just butt hurt... and if organisation are really against it, why do they allow her to participate? Most important I think we can agree to disagree on this matter. In general I just love to look at awesome cosplayers and it makes me sad when people are beating down on an awesome cosplayer.

>>9840333

But she no longer comes across as a talented cosplayer now she keeps doing the same thing. She comes across as a one trick pony swiping for low hanging fruit, and that is not a good look.

>>9840257
>>9840333
As a veteran cosplayer and competer:
This is literally common decency and unwritten ruling worldwide. It's seen as poor taste. If you do
this, you lose respect of almost anyone who's competing in your own league. There's a good reason
why you rarely see the 'bigger' and more 'veteran' cosplayers compete at the lower leagues when
they win at Animecon. Almost every big cosplayer that won international preliminaries and/or finals
NEVER competes below that level.
There's also a reason why in the US you have the tier system.
Like, No one's going to stop her, but people will just start disliking her. That's up to her. It's seen as
disrespectful, lazy and poor taste. Period. She doesn't care, so not my problem. If she wants to be
liked and respected by the community, she needs to play different and actually produce more
cosplays.
The reason for competitions and competing regularly are that you're able to show you can make
costumes on a regular basis. If you can't do that; don't fucking compete. She won ICL(?) and ECG
once, not WCS (correcting someone above me). I have news for you; only ECG accepts the same
costume as you won with at Animecon because it's one month after. Any other competition expects
a new costume. Or new costumes in the case of WCS. WCS demands (I think) 3 NEW costumes for
the finals. So yeah. If you can't do that, don't compete.

>>9840285
To come in to your little discussion:
No, it is not stupid.
If you have proven your costume wins in a little league, you should advance to the higher ones. The other way around is not fair.
Compare it to sports: would you like it if Usain Bolt in his prime would seriously compete at your local amateur event? Or if your local third rate football club would hire a few pro's for 2 matches, so they win the championship? And then I mean not for the fans, but seriously to compete.

Instead of being happy to win, I would be ashamed. Not just because I would win something at a place i knew there was now real competition, but because that I would say that that is all I am worth. Every time I would do something below my level, I lower myself to that level. In this case, more than the sandbagging itself, I kind of pity her lack of pride and ambition and her view of herself.

>>9840386
She only won the CWM preliminary, not ICL or ECG. WCS demands two extra costumes for parades and such, but you can compete with your preliminary costume. Get your facts straight.

>>9840333
> if organisation are really against it, why do they allow her to participate?
Organisation wasn't against it. She did not break any rules so there was no problem with her competing in The Party compo, Any arguments against that would be personal opinion/individual morals of nature.

I like winning stuff, ofcourse, it helps with building more projects, but I also like to keep improving and building. I was very satisfied with my performance and outfit and I definitely already have points I want to improve on.
Ofcourse it's sad when you hear a lot of people tell you 'i wish you won a prize' but I was very satisfied with the choices of the judges and think they judged very fair.

>>9840424
She showed that she didnt know for sure if it were 3 new costumes, but they ask you to bring 2 new ones nevertheless.
Also, thank you for the correction on which competitions she won. You're like a walking, arselicking, encyclopedia of Linny la vante.

Linny aside, what’s with the amount of people having an unhealthy obsession with their cosplay page where they won’t even achieve anything with aside from sad ass virtual likes ?

>>9840505
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>>9840474
I dislike people getting credit for things they didn't do, and your point would have been stronger with correct facts. I'm glad you're so good at taking feedback and not getting defensive!

>>9840474
>>9840527
kek

>>9840505
I've seen people that literally check social media bots to see who unfollowed their social media accounts then ask in PM 'why did you unfollow my page'.
Well if I don't like your content then i'm not gonna keep up with it am I.

>>9839837
Yes. I saw him saturday. I lost him before I could get security.

>>9840505
Inb4's she's gonna get salty at her ''friends'' who disliked her page. Who cares, hunny. Your friends do not have obligations to follow/like your page...

>>9840505
>dislike
I assume she meant 'unlike'?

>>9840559
Yes and no. I do think that if it's a close friend, it makes sense that you want to support their hobby. But if it's just some "friend" you talked to two times at an anime convention, you can't really bother that person..

>>9840505
Lmao imagine being this obsessed with reaching fleeting fame

>>9840505
original post got deleted, hi esra

>>9840181
You probably mean tomocon, but no, I am not going. It is a waste of time for me.

>>9840550
..why get security? Was he banned? Did I miss something?

>>9840624
They say he got a ban from DCC. Not sure if that is true though.

>Tfw were not in the world cup

Isn't it ironic how we are all calling linny out for her sandbagging, yet ilunaneko won best costume on DCC last weekend with a costume that she has won WCS with? Let's not forget she has represented the Netherlands in ECG and Eurocos too. Linny has only won ICL so far as an international competition.

But by the end of the day it's all Linny's fault and fake boobs gets away with everything. What a beautiful world we live in.

Tfw tomo has good weather again.
I know I'm being salty.

>>9840647
>But by the end of the day it's all Linny's fault and fake boobs gets away with everything. What a beautiful world we live in.
Or you know, perhaps it's because up until now nobody called Ilunaneko out yet. Not everything has to do with having cow sized tits or not anon.

>>9840257
>but how are you able to judges someone without having competed or cosplayed yourself?

Same way I'm not a singer myself, but I can definitely hear the difference between a fantastic singer, average singer and someone who sings like crows.
Or how I never broke a bone, but know it will hurt like a motherfucker if I do.

Or how I knew back in the days that sewing can be a pain in the ass. And now that I sew, can tell my past self it can indeed be a pain in the ass.

Whole sandbagging debate aside, can we stop using this bullshit argument. Nobody lost a child here (because that's what I call unimaginable pain). It's not hard to imagine how frustrating cosplaying can be if you ever hard a decent conversation with a cosplayer.

>>9840647
>>9840652
DCC is shit at distributing information about the winners wheras TP already had video and photo material online within 6h after the competition i guess. And that there were more 'known' competitors I suppose? She also joined the TP competition with Alice (madness returns?)
I still have no idea what categories there were at DCC, and who won them.
What's with the fake boobs?

>>9840679
>Same way I'm not a singer myself, but I can definitely hear the difference between a fantastic singer, average singer and someone who sings like crows.
The fun thing between people who have a musical ear and the ones that don't, is that the ones that don't just hear something is 'off', but the ones with a musical ear know if someone is singing too sharp or flat (and give this type of feedback to singers to improve and whats not). So even if you don't have knowledge of something, it definitely helps if you do. Imagine if you had to judge singers: what good is judging them if you can't even define why they sound great or terrible? That would make a lousy judge imo.

>>9840647
Moekke her costume was new though, so i feel it is different.

Even if Ilunaneko her outfit was WCS quality, Moekke her outfit could still be shit and they woudnt have won something. (not saying it was shit, just trying to explain)

Linny her outfit won solo competitions and she keeps competing solo, so its litterly NO different.

>>9840647
calling someone out for doing this once, sure

Linny has competed like 4/5 times with her winning costume??

thats just shitty

>>9840696

"Musical ears" like you translated it is a phenomenon which is mostly used for people who are born with a musical hearing. They don't have to ever have played a instrument or have song, but still are able to hear a difference between keys, recognise flat vs. sharp etc. Doesn't mean they are more knowledged about music or give better advise. (But of course most of those people are in the music industry because of that talent, but that's a non-cgl related topic.)

But sure, some people are "more" qualified or their opions are considered more of value. Still doesn't mean the "lower" qualified can't have good opions and should be overlooked.

>>9840744

The problem with Linny is, ske keeps competing with winning costumes.
And she has been called out on the sandbagging, she reacted saying she didn't know (iirc) but then again, entered another competition with the same winning costume.

I'm guessing ashley read the comment here because she included it in her new post about entering with a costume already used before. I'm suprised how fast they managed to make anne her costume.

>>9840783
Actually its a follow up of a post on her personal facebook

>>9840783
Have to give them credit for making that costume in a month, even with 2 people

>>9840783
At least she sees that its wrong... Linny learn from that

>>9840624
I heard he was banned and he had a real metal chain with him. You can use that as a weapon and as far as I know it’s not allowed to bring something like tbat to DCC.

>>9840647
> Shitting on a cosplayer's boobjob which isn't that obvious (and she isn't showing them off that much either) whilst trying to defend someone whose boobs are very visible in most of her costumes.

Good way to show your vendetta, "Linny's friend." You know, I always thought girls don't have boob-envy as much as guys envy bigger penises.

>>9840826
You have a lot to learn about women, young padewan.

>>9840829
I am one and I have never experienced or witnessed it myself except for salty bitches on the internet. There's a market for everything tho, so medium tits and buckteeth should definitely be a fetish for someone.

>>9840839
Hmm, I'm male but I can't count the times I heard the jealous "they must be fake" and "it's all she has" comments from women about other women. So it's quite common on both sides.

>>9839837
So I just looked him up on IG and have you seen/read his story?! He's going nuts and says he punched someone. What is wrong with that dude?

>>9840992
That'd be an improvement compared to his past stories.

>>9840995
Okay well I only saw him a couple of times at some cons so I don't really know him, but damn..

>>9840992
I doubt he really did or we would've heard about it by now.

>>9832143
So you gals like surveys? Because I got one and I'm too autistic to make a thread for it or spam it too much, but I'd appreciate it if you could spare a few minutes for it. Picture unrelated.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeuXxTWm3gewaK3i5siVIp03FxPABGNOXALXCVr7F_Xzs8g7Q/viewform?usp=sf_link

Question 4, I would add a "none of the above" answer

>>9841229
You might want to inform people it’s about Lolita fashion.

>>9840826
I'm an A cup and I like mine that way. Maybe Linny cares, but not everyone, lol.

>>9841229
I really wonder what made you choose that picture for your survey.

>>9841878
Yeah, my bad. Sorry.

>>9841960
To be honest, I haven't posted it for a long time if ever after saving it, and I rarely come here anymore, so it was a good opportunity. This picture too.

So, TomoMark just anounced that he won't be organising any eventns anymoren and Gio won't ben attending anycons anymore..

>>9842428
I think you have misread TomoMark's post. Look again.

>>9842428
You're really putting this out-of-context, mate...

So... Are we excited for Tomocon?

>>9843136
Yes! Despite all the bitching here, it is a really cozy con desu. I don 't attend Tomofairs but this edition is nice.

>tfw you want to post progress but you can only phonepost.

Sorry people, I’ve been battling with4chan since the 1st of April. I can post once and then I keep getting connection errors. This only goes per board so in another board I can post again once, and then same problem. But my phone seems fine? Anyway. Progress.

>>9840992
>ArkhamLedger

That dude is a fucking retard WILL attack someone. It's only a matter of time.

>>9844103
Yeah I noticed

>>9844103
Yeah, and discussing him on a online anonymous forum is only going to push his buttons more. For the love of cats can we please stop talking about him.

>>9844103
Just stop talking about him. It's getting annoying. Like, I'd flip my shit too if all people could talk about would be me and my life.

>>9844153
>>9844156
This, by now we all know he's a degenerate basket case who will do anything for a quick fix of attention to feed that super-inflated ego of his. Just stop feeding him, let him starve and give the attention he truly deserves; none.

So Viencon posted last week, they'll have a meeting this week. Friday is here, no update as of yet. "The team is busy."

>>9844215
''We will inform you about the results of the meeting as soon as possible!''
Learn to read

>>9844266
Not the op, but...
I'm not sure in what way you are affiliated with Viencon, but judging from your responses you are pretty close and very emotional.
I like this event to succeed as well, just like most people here. Now, here is a little piece of advice. Don't be hostile, don't be agressively defensive. You are doing the name of Viencon more harm than good. If you are a known staff member, your responses would be a reason for me to avoid the event. Because if you keep snapping like this and how you did in the previous thread, I do not want to find out how you would react at the event itself when someone tells you something.

>>9844266
>>>9844215
>''We will inform you about the results of the meeting as soon as possible!''
>Learn to read

Lern to organize an event.
This is your second time already.
A Dutch saying says. An ass does not hit the same stone twice
Have you looked in the mirror yet today?

>>9844266
>>>9844215
>''We will inform you about the results of the meeting as soon as possible!''
>Learn to read


Learn to organize an event.
This is your second time already.
A Dutch saying says. An ass does not hit the same stone twice
Have you looked in the mirror yet today?

>>9844156
What did he think was gonna happen, naming the con after himself. shrugs.
The jokes on him now I suppose.

#faillietcon

>>9844450

#vienitocon

>>9844461
LoL

>>9844398
Actually the staff is my biggest turn off. On the one hand bitching that anything anyone says against Viencon is just people being salty. And at the same time bitching they don't get any good feedback.
Had this been animecon organizes pool party, I would have felt more inclined to go.

>>9844398
hahahah you think im affiliated with them? no thanks. people just have to do more research before spreading bullsh*t (rumors) on people / events

>>9845195
Oef, someone spilled the salt

I see vriendjespolitiek xiuemi is the judge of tomos dance compo. If she does it as well as she did at nishi I doubt she'll be invited as judge again. Don't purposely make your friends win you degenerate piece of excrement.

ItsACarlchannel is a pedo

>>9845257
She though she was a judge, but the person actually in charge of the judges did not invite her. That was very confusing. The actual judges did seem qualified to judge the competition tho.

>>9845388
Who? Also would you mind posting some actual proof rather than mindless shouting?

>>9845397
Do you really think I have a pic of a 16yo sucking his dick

>>9845414
No, but when one makes wild accusations such as these I do expect them to at least post something that backa their claims. Mindlessly posting "X is a pedo" isn't convincing anyone and you refusing to share any stories or proof isn't helping either.

>>9845391
Well. Not surprising. Tomo and a person in charge of something as small as lets dance irl arent two examples of anything professional. You hear enough things going wrong regarding anything Tomo. Would not be surprised if this has happened in the past.

>>9845257
> vriendjespolitiek.
You mean fat whale ginneke and her friends? I didn’t see xiuemi anywhere :’)

>>9845473
Cate wasn’t even a judge tho

>>9845257
Why are u bitchin? She wasn't even a judge. Get off

Why do you think hes not at Tomo, he wants to avoid spreading the drama in public

>>9845257
Btw none of her friends won at Nishicon either soo... Nice try bud ;)

>>9845473
That's not very kind. What did she do to you? Reject you to be a judge?

>>9845414
Also, age of consent in NL is 16.

>>9845473
That's some salt u got there. Might need that for your cafe

>>9845495
Not if he’s 20yo or smth.
Idk the tea but it all sounds shady to me queen

>>9845473
If her surname begins with t you can fuck off.

Meanwhile I'm learning my niece to knock on the door when her mom is taking a dump and saying 'little pig little pig'

>>9845257
Tbh why would she be invited as a judge? She doesn't make any of her cosplays, she joined the dance compo once? And she doesn't know a lot about acting as well. What was she even judging at Nishicon?

So does anyone know what actually happened with ItstheCarlChannel? I've heard several things and I'm not quite sure what's true anymore.

>>9845616
The lipsync compo or smth

>>9845764


> previous message got deleted
> asks again

get a hint

>>9845616
I believe I heard she used to do dance/acting performances and classes since when she was young, so I guess she has some experience in that. it wouldnt be too weird to be a dance compo judge if she actually used to take dance classes in my opinion. She was one of the judges during the lipsync battle at Nishicon. None of her friends actually won or even participated in that compo so anon is crying over nothing..

>>9846065
Ah, okay. I did not know that. I don't think having participated in dance classes somewhere in your life makes you instantly qualified, but if she has done that from a young age until now, it would be.

>>9846110
Yeah, I believe so

what did you guys think of the cafe?

>>9846217
I honestly really liked it and the fact that all the warm dishes were made fresh, especially the taiyaki. The maids were nice and helpful so I think they did a good job.

I'm not dutch, but there isn't really an european thread so I hope it isn't a huge problem if I ask here. I mean we're close enough geographically, I live in Czechia.

I finally got the gut to go to cosplay cons, but I have no idea how the scene is. What are some cons I should go to? Is there some central europe focused /cgl/ group? I'd like to meet people from here.

At least I think I would

>>9846217
Wish they'd actually wear maid outfits though? I think their uniforms look bland, but their food is good.

>>9846217
I think they did well. Little bit shy and unsure. But there food was quite good. And fresh. And the price was decent. I mean i have seen maid cafes ask for a cup of noodles 2 or 3 euros and it was the cheapest crap you can buy for 0.50 cents. The have a good chance i think

>>9846278

I dont think it is a maid cafe. The sign says cosplay cafe so it makes sense. Actually happy they werent some cringe as fuck maids who do chants. The only reason i tried it. Never liked the maid concept.

Only downside i had to wait quite a bit for my food but it was decent. Liked the fact you actually got big glasses for the drinks and a normal plate. Better than those BBQ plastic plates with breakable forks.

But what do you think of Tomo generally? I think the food was quite nice. Those crepes where very good. Same goes for the shaved ice. I think that is tomos strong point. But they suck sometimes at planning shit

>>9846275
I don’t think we can help you. The scene differs from country to country and I doubt many Dutch people have been to cons in Czechia. Have you tried making a Central Europe thread?

>>9846286

what does it say about an anime/manga/cosplay oriented con when the only good point is their food?

Does anyone have some good Tomocon stories?

>>9846293
Okay say it like this. The food is one of the things that stand out. Karaoke , gameroom and ddr are oke. But not standing out. The main stage is mostly a mess. They have a good starting maidcafe. The dealerroom was meh i missed something but i do not know what.

>>9846289
I should probably give it a shot, though I guess my main point was asking where to find cons in Europe. I assume Germany? Either way I should probably make them but the issue is that I don't really wanna make one just to help myself, it probably wouldn't be well received... Idk, worth a shot though

>>9846302


So in the end, only the food is one of the things that stand out. All of the other things you mention are "oke"

So again, what does it say about a anime/manga/cosplay con when only the food stands out (and the rest is meh)

>>9846275
In czech itself; have a look at animefest. It's by far the largest and gives you a good impression.

Google is your best friend to find cons in europe.

>>9846402
Yeah, animefest was the one I was talking about

>>9846307
I'd deffo check out German cons. France has some nice ones as well.

Any opinions about the dancecompetition at Tomo?

Anyone seen liyu at the con

>>9846505
Who's liyu

>>9846505
Man, don't bring this petty ass drama here please. Nobody posted solid proof about him and some stories just sound like solid bullshit.

Wait... Isn't he the guy who is always carrying a plushie with him, and makes photos of girls their feet?

LIYU IS AN AWFUL PERSON. HE HARASSED ME AND KEPT ASKING IF I WANTED TO DRINK WITH HIM WHEN I WAS STILL UNDERAGE. I didnt recognize him yesterday, But he regocnized me (I blocked him trom every social media) And he just hugged me leaving me pretty confused. I feel very uncomfortable around him. He kept telling how my boyfriend wasn’t good enough for me bla bla. Absolutely a creep

I should really stop watching zondag with lubach. I'm so convinced I have to delete my facebook now. But without facebook, how am I going to get updates on cosplay and lolita drama huh?

>>9846611
I only use mine for the group chat and occasional shitpost anyway.

>>9846611
The only reason I still have it is because there’s no global alternative for all my friends. And then there’s the thing that uni uses it. But if not for that, I would’ve gotten rid of Facebook already

>>9846611
Join the seagull offensive on our discord.

>>9846611
All the good stuff makes it to other platforms anyway so /cgl/, lolcow and PULL are all you need for your weekly dose of dramu. The real question is if you would also quit Instagram, WhatsApp and Oculus as they too are owned by Facebook.

>>9846618
I post something maybe once a month and aside from that FB feels more like a glorified birthday and event calendar to me. Even Messenger is only used for one international friend of mine who has no other way to be reached.

>>9846640
Even if there was a global alternative (Google+ comes close) wouldn't that mean you're just trading in one big bad corporation for another?

Anyone else saw that video from tomocon where two cosplayers were jumping on the branches of a tree? Someone told them off but there were like "no the tree is totally fine" when it was clearly being damaged. No nature freak or something, but treat your surroundings with respect man

>>9846652
i'm not really quitting facebook but at least I can kill it's cookies with privacy badger and adblock in addition to not sharing any personal photo's on the platform. but back on topic.

>>9846652
>Even if there was a global alternative (Google+ comes close) wouldn't that mean you're just trading in one big bad corporation for another?
And that's probably why there's no alternative. Even if there was, it'd be a matter of time before they'd get bought by either of the two. I love how people jump ships all the time to avoid the big boys and then the apps get popular and bought by either of them.
Like Instagram & Whatsapp. Hell Youtube used to be independent.

It won’t do anything if you quit Facebook, the current data will be kept, and it goes without saying that the numerous other social media sites pull the same things. It’s been around since forever yet people keep freaking out the moment it comes to light. Nobody is gonna use the info unless illegal activity is noted, and even then the chance will be small that anyone will bother to look at it.

>>9846652
They are owned by facebook but they can't follow us on the level Facebook does. I use telegram much more than whatsapp, but I can't delete it yet because of school.

>>9847283
>Nobody is gonna use the info
they literally use and sell the info all the time, and if you delete your account they can't use you anymore. i only used facebook for lolita, but now that there's active discord groups i don't need it anymore. i was already a lonelita anyway.

What is happening? Tomocon was fun! WTF!!??!!

>>9847604
Don't let them fool you! The Tomowarriors are trying to make it look like Tomo can be fun. It wasn't. It was the same ol' shit.

>Bags were being checked for food and drinks.
>Bouncy castles outside.
>Apparently some chick did a photoshoot in her bra at the local church.
>They gave away a lot of merchandise on the second day, but they also decided it was a good idea to hand out those party horns to every attendee.
>Workshops, foodstalls and gameroom were okay, I guess.
>Tomocamping looked awful as always.
>I overheard some volunteer talk about being treated badly.

They were sold out again. I wonder how they manage to do that every year.

>>9847620
Bouncy castle was chill! At MIA stewards removed me when I was chilling over there. Tomo doesn't care. We even played football in the bouncy castle

>>9847620
Huh? I've been to Tomo before and they never checked? Maybe only in Oss? I didn't had a bag with me and I didn't see any checks? Where did they do that? And did Tomo check the bags? Only security is allwoed to check bags, isn't it?

>>9847620
I loved the crepe's! Who was the guy selling vegan food? Any link or do you know which con he is going to attend next?

>>9847657
There was security at the entrance checking bags and throwing food away. They only did this at certain times.

>>9847671
No, they brought it to voedselbank. That's why they collected it in crates and only throwed away the opened food and drinks. The guy at the bar inside told me when I asked that.

>>9847702
wait, what?!
so they checked people on food and drinks, collected it and brought it to the "voedselbank" ?!
I don't even know how to feel about this anymore.

Why is there an abundance of (half-decent) cons at this time of the year but the space between animecon and abunai is still a almost two month void of any anime convention. Summer cons where are you at??

>>9847663
The vegan stand is called Honkies if I remember correctly. I saw them on Animecon last year as well, so maybe you're lucky and they'll be attending again this year.

>>9847710
Personally I think that's way better then throw it away, don't you think?

>>9847724
you're right. It's the initial check that is the actual problem, though. They are just confiscating others' food and giving it away.
Mind you, they didn't do this the years before. They claimed to have moved back to the original venue because the check on food was one of the problems.

>>9847620
Tomowarriors? Hahaha, I met TomoMark at Tomofair Amsterdam and I can assure you that he is not on 4chan and he didn't even knew what it was. He only said that he knew it was somekind of a "internetforum", hahaha. TomoMark is from the stoneage and doesn't know shit about anime, computers, phones, games or whatever he's is doing. He is just a teacher in somekind of prison, that's it. Tomo is just a hobby for him practising his organising skills. He has never seen a single anime.

>>9847776
I hope you realize Tomomark isn't the only person who is part of the Tomo organisation. He's the one shouting the loudest, so I understand your misunderstanding.

>>9847778
And I've met TomoWilbert, he is even worse and definitely not on 4chan. Then there is TomoBrian, but he is only TomoMark's buttslave without opinion. He is gay af and his ugly ass girlfriend never noticed. And TomoNiek is just a pain in the ass autistic guy who no one is taking seriously.

>>9847776
Hi there,
Some corrections:
Mark uses an Android Phone with a Windows Phone skin, so he knows something about Technology.
And he has seen Death Note several times.

>>9847799
TomoMark is a f*cking dinosaur! He can't even operate a Windows 10 laptop. And he only views anime together with his buttslaves to drug his minor friends and f*ck them.

What a wild ride this has become.

>>9847809
Why so much hate? TomoMark is a really nice guy! He is a bit too straight forward sometimes, but he is sweet and very caring. People who are saying this never met him in real life!

>>9847825
I only spoke about his non-interest for anime and his lack of technology skills. I know he's not bad as a person.

>>9847783
>>9847809
I'm a little confused why you post shit like this. Why do you think this is valuable info we need to know? Cause honestly i couldn't care less about a cons organization.

>>9847620
Tomo was actually fun this year, get over it

>>9848266
Tomo was really shitty desu

Like alright, gameroom was fine, food was fine, they had a 'decent' dealerroom. But that's it. Might as well call it Tomofair+.

I had to leave earlier due to getting sick, but how was the disco at tomo?

Viencon and Jeroencon, naming a con after yourself is the new cool thing to do!

>>9847620
The shaved ice was seriously great but those party horns made me want to stab myself in the ears. Please, tomo, consider your attendees' sanity next time.

>>9847776
He is a teacher in Brabant, "speciaal onderwijs" in fact, a "friend" of mine actually had him for a year or two.
Heard he was a pretty good teacher but then again... "speciaal onderwijs".

They only checked the bags of people who said yes when asked if they had food with them. Tomo was okay-ish.

>>9848890
Why are you acting like being a teacher in speciaal onderwijs is a bad thing? If anything, that's a harder job than teaching 'normal' children.

>>9848916
He works in a youth prison in Breda with youth that (attempted) murder. Those boys are 16 to 22 years old. One of his ex colleagues is my current accountant. He knows him well. TomoMark is known as a good teacher, but VERY strict and firm...

>>9849004
That makes it even harder of a job. I don't know the guy but if he's good (and strictness seems a bonus in a youth prison) then I take my hat off to him.

Doesn't mean I'll suddenly forgive Tomo and think their events are amazing.

>>9848712

Both are obnoxious shits so.. It's not a surprise.

>>9847620
>They were sold out again. I wonder how they manage to do that every year.

Giving away a lot of tickets is a big part of selling out the Tomo events. Second: the tickets are cheap. Really smart way of marketing.

Was TomoCon sold out? I really thought they didn't as I never saw anything about it.

>>9848712
Can't find anything about Jeroencon...
Is this by Jeroen W.? the photographer or is this someone else?

>>9849853
Pretty sure that ‘jeroencon’ is a joke because you recently had three Jeroens in one pic?

>>9849752
only 8% of people who got a free ticket actually go there. so give away 1000 tickets and you have 80 visitors extra. trust me the influence of free tickets is far less than you think!

Saw this on my timeline.. Did he seriously just paid for Facebook ads & promotion? It's definitely going to his head...

>>9850466
Imagine paying for an ad and misspelling 'attend'

>>9850466
Yeah I saw a different advertisement on my feed as well. I wouldn't want to even know somebody that hungry for attention.

>>9849888
It was a placeholder name and it was just a private invitation photoshoot

>>9850466
What's that picture even? His neck?

>>9850466
That's some awefully cut leather

>>9850795
You mean pleather.

Is this still dead?

>>9851984
No it's alive again.

And another Gull joins the 3D printing squad!

>>9852072

Looks pretty good for a small model.

Who's going to Elfia next week?

Elfia is a normie con

>>9852541
Not me, I might go to Castlefest just to see what the fantasy cons are all about.

I was just thinking about what I hate most on conventions. Out of everything it are the people who act like regular life norms don't apply to conventions. They are the people who go to the mangakisa, take their shoes off and start massaging their bare feet. I already feel like throwing up thinking about it.

>>9852837
Things I hate about conventions:
>That one guy who reeks like sweat but rejects any deodorant you offer.
>Overly loud and hyperactive people who constantly bump into people as they are running around and flinging their arms in the air like some spastic kind of idiot. Bonus points if they loudly start discussing inappropriate subjects such as their favourite hentai or fetishes.
>Poor ventilation, especially around the food court and event rooms.
>When a venue removes that comfy grass field in favour of sand or shitty plants.
>Only having greasy fast food and instant noodles available at the food court.
>Dark game rooms as bright screens in a dark room are a perfect way to kill your eyes.
>Opening your bank app and realising you’ll have to survive on water and instant ramen for the rest of the month.

>>9852889
>When a venue removes that comfy grass field in favour of sand or shitty plants.
hah... I know this one.

>>9852889
that one guy is usually the same guy that says 'where is my hug' and leaves his sweat on you >.<

>>9852989
Just tell them they can hug this. And them a deo.

>Only having greasy fast food and instant noodles available at the food court.

Oh man, this so much. It's doable on one day cons, but no matter how much I joke that I can life on sugar, I'll actually feel/get ill if I only eat junkfood for two (or more) days straight.

>>9853370
I tend to have a stomach ache the entire con, because stress + high sugar/fatty foods is just terrible. I usually go for a huge breakfast and then try to live off it till 5/6.

>>9853370
>>9853396
This is why I prefer to leave the con for a bit and have dinner elsewhere. Besides the food nearly always being better elsewhere I also find it a great way to recharge myself before heading back for the remainder of the evening programming.

>>9853396
>>9853441
Same. I am honestly looking forward to Saturday evening dinner in Schevenigen during Animecon. I hope the weather will be nice enough to sit on the beach.

>>9852541
Yes sunday! The weather expectations look great, I haven't been there in years so I'm looking forward to it.

>>9853441

I always do this. I never spend money to eat on the con but the little street further down. it may a bit more expensive, like 4 to 6 euro a person but you get much more and better food. Love the little italian place there.

But then again. 90% are cheap ass weebs who live of student loans or UWV so it is luckely never to crowded there if you know what time to get there.

>>9854188
I never know where to get decent food, usually follow the crowd as I'm afraid of getting lost. Any places nearby you or other anons recommend? I do love pasta.

>>9854342
I always will recommend Scheveningen because in the summer it's quite nice, and there are loads of food places along the beach. Seeing the sun set while you have dinner and some drinks is grand. There are many different kitchens on the beach, ranging from spanish, to italian, to dutch to japanese. There's also of course the standard restaurants on the boulevard. It's like 10 minutes away with the tram from the World Forum. Take tram 1 to Scheveningen Noorderstrand and get out at Kurhaus.

>>9854365
Frederick Hendrik laan has some nice dining options. Its also a 5 min walk from the Wf.

Tfw no qt Leiden cosplay girlfriend
Add me on discord Shadow#3658

>>9852889
>>That one guy who reeks like sweat but rejects any deodorant you offer.

what if that guy gets a rash from using conventional deodorant?
because seriously, when I use anything with aluminum-salts as ingredient it starts itching all over the place. Sure I have different DEO with aluin, but that doesn't work as well, and is practically useless while in a fursuit.

>>9855066
Then use said alternative deodorant? Also if you're sweating like crazy in a fursuit at least take a shower afterwards and put on some clean clothes. Letting your suit ventilate afterwards and perhaps spraying an alcohol/lemon juice mixture into it should greatly reduce the smell that lingers in your suit. Or at least it does wonders to my shoes which I'm fairly sure have been classified as a chemical weapon at this point. Just don't be that guy who doesn't shower and wears the same clothes all weekend.

>>9855066
That sucks. Especially since non aluminum-salt deodorant is indeed such crap (speaking from experience). The best to do would be shaving where possible. To be fair, for me (as a woman) shaved armpits without deodorant reek less bad than having bushy armpits with deodorant. But idk if it's just armpits for you, cause some people also reek from back sweat and whatever.

>>9855066
Ya nasty.

>>9855066
Maybe use baby wipes inbetween. I've forgotten my deo once and uses the toilet spray. Fuck that hurt,

Ran into some problems, but fixing them mostly. I also noticed something really stupid and will fix that ASAP. This might solve the problem with the blades hitting the skirt too! I say might. That's still a dragon of a problem to slay but I've already wounded it severely.

>>9856167
Good to see this progress picture! Love it!

>>9856167
Awesome!

>>9855066
I would say try enzyme cleaner for the fursuit. HG has one that does wonders. If it can get the katpee smell out of my couch it should work on your fursuit.
Also something like talcum powder. They also sell shirt patches at the kruidvat that are absorbent and kill bacteria.

>>9855066
>stewing in your own BO in a fursuit
As if I wasn't disgusted by furries already.

Cool characters to have a photoshoot with in a fort? I was thinking maybe an avenger?

>>9856304
>>9855066
you can actually wash fursuits with bleach since it's plastic and thus treated differently

>>9856928
Avenger would work; Dark souls, Skyrim, Game of Thrones are some ideas?

>>9857485
Or you could drink the bleach. Solves a lot too.

>>9856928
Define the type of fort, or which fort do you have in mind?. There are many from different time periods.

It's an actual gundam now. Will work on the Vfin this weekend probably.

>>9858504
>ore ga gundam da

Have fun at Elfia gulls and don't forget to post some pictures!

>>9859448
yes! And please stay hydrated! Alcohol doesn't count and will dehydrate you instead. Drink plenty of water or juice!

>>9859516
>Telling a bunch of legit alcoholics not to drink
Godspeed anon, for this will be your ultimate quest.

>>9859626
You can drink alcohol, as long as people drink enough water on the side with it. If not, well... their problem.

>>9859626

Who are you calling an alcoholic?

Elfia was lit
terally hot

So did anyone else at Elfia see that stand selling buttplugs and dildos right out in the open or was the heat making me hallucinate

>>9860581
I didn't go but oh god why

>>9860598
Because I would prefer one of those if all the guys on an event are sweaty nerds or furries. Makes being a lesbian sound very attractive.

>>9860598
I didn’t check them out very closely so they might’ve been ~art~ rather than actual sex toys but there were definitely glass dicks in full view of anyone taller than 80cm.

>>9860730
Nah they were definitely designed for internal use. Still, I think I'll just stick to silicone as that shit doesn't shatter into a million fragments when damaged.

>>9860581
Yeah many semi-precious stone dildo's, penisses and buttplugs.
They were pretty.

>>9859878
At least 60% of the people in the Discord

>>9860817
And a danger to your internal bacteria

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