/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9831931
Trevor Brown's art is so creepy. If it was just about sexualizing cute shit then fine, whatever, but he outright sexualizes children.

Sweetie Violet is getting a re-release.

Can anyone identify this dress? I love it but I can't find its name

>>9832061
>but he outright sexualizes children.
Shouldn't be surprising considering his japanese wife was 14 when he married her with like 30+

>>9832097
search on lolibrary. you have the brand.

>>9832123
That can't be legal.

>>9832129
I don't know anything about this person, but it is legal. Welcome to planet Earth outside of the West. In the US there are a handful of states that allow this too, but even Americans within the country don't even realize that. Not to go on a rant, but I find it really weird how people are always looking for causes to fight for and often age of consent within your own country is not taken into consideration.

>>9832071
Oh sweet goodness, finally! I hope they do a dove-grey colorway.

>>9832147
Doesn't matter. Still creepy. Half your age plus seven years and no younger.

>>9832097
It's called lace fabric bust JSK on lolibrary. It was on the first page, after I typed in the tags. I'm happy to help, but man, do people not know how to use lolibrary anymore? I know some people say they have issues with it, but it works fine for me every single time.

>>9832147
>30+ year old marrying a literal child
>t-the age of consent means nothing!!
It's messed up regardless of laws.

>>9832150
So a 38 year old man could date a 26 year old no problem, but a 25 year old is going to far? This rule is stupid.

>>9832150 >>9832156
Oh, I whole-heartedly agree it's creepy and wrong and laws should be changed. I'm just stating that it is, in fact, legal and until people decide it's concerning enough of an issue to tackle it will remain legal and you will continue to see it happening.

>>9832153
I run into similar issues when trying to help girls get into Lolita. I think it has something to do with social media encouraging people to do things "socially" instead of as an isolated individual opening up a search engine tab.

>>9832163
>comparing people in their mid 20s and 30s to a 30 year old and an underage teenager

nice logic there

Does anyone know if the Atlanta comm is any good? Or if Charleston or Jacksonville is anything special? I moved to Savannah months ago and the comm absolutely sucks, so I'm looking to see if there's anywhere worth a drive.

>>9832071

Colours are pink, ice mint, lavender and navy and yet I'd swear the jsk behind the lavender looks mint mint and the skirt looks sax blue instead of being the same colour. Doubly disturbing because I like the "mint" and not the "blue".

>>9832071
Shopping addiction all the way. SV is really low priority item in my wishlist, but now I can get it brand new for less. Ugh...

>>9832175
Anon to me the "sax" and mint look similar enough it doesn't make that big a difference. Also I'd say the real color is in between, look up worn pictures

>>9832170
According to anons rule it's "creepy."

>>9832175
Too bad they didn't add some different cuts. JSK looks too plain and OP is basically just another dress with high waist and long sleeves we've seen a lot.

>>9832188
The JSK isn't "too plain." What are you on about?

>>9832200
It's a bit ruffled tank top with skirt attached, anon. It's plain af.

>>9832202
People like you are the reason we can't have nice things.

>>9832202
You're new to lolita, aren't you? Because this cut is basically an AP staple

>>9832202
I own it and I need to agree. It’s pretty plain but this makes it so easy to wear casually.

>>9832185
i don't think the rule is definite if it's one or two years but if it's 10 like the one you're defending then yeah, it's creepy

>>9832188
The cuts are nice. Not everything has to be flashy unless you're a conlita.

>>9832223
>like the one you're defending

I wasn't defending that one, its gross when it involves minors. I was using an example of this rule applied to older people to show how it's retarded. Learn to read.

>>9832182

Maybe just a wishful hallucination on my side thinking it'd look better in mint. I'll go look up owner photos, thanks for the idea.

>>9832061
It's social commentary anon, you're supposed to feel uncomfortable

>>9832245
Lolicon is profound social commentary now?

>>9832175
>>9832182
The "mint" colorway IS sax/blue.

>>9832071
> Delivery schedule November 2018

>>9832223
I guess my parents are way creepy since my mom is 54 and my dad is 73

>>9832276
Just in time to store it away with your summer wardrobe, yay!

>>9832166
>The laws of an entirely different country with a different culture should be changed because they're icky
Grow up

everyone who's heard about the "half your age plus seven" rule knows that it's a helpful guide for when you're between 18 and like 30, and you don't have to worry at all if both you and your potential partner are over 21. your brains are fully formed and you *should* be able to make good decisions about who to play with/date

I get some people haven't heard of this but it helps a lot of people, mainly guys, who don't take into account that they are in fact aging, whether or not they are maturing at the same rate. You'd be surprised how many people are like emotionally stunted to high school and continue to look for the same people they were attracted to in school. they're delusional and it can be gross.

Just in time for Easter!
If you're in Japan.

>>9832320
ooooo the polka dots are different colors!
this is what I expect from AP, details and choices like this.
>glad they released a brooch because the flower on the hd is so big it sticks out compared to the tiny ones on everything else
>I also don't know how I feel about the shade of the flower. hard to tell from these photos if it matches well

that apron skirt tho

>>9832290
Why is it not "icky"?

>>9832320
That yellow makes my eyes bleed

>>9832324
They're not polka dots, they're flowers.

>>9832320
>like the blouse
>don't think it would match anything in my wardrobe
D-damn it AP...

>>9832290
>not thinking child marriage should be illegal

>>9832350
Please project your values into your own country's politics, thank you.

>>9832246
It’s ~art~, us plebs wouldn’t understand.

>>9832123
Lol where did you even get this from?

>>9832061
Idc, I love the skirt and I love Dangerous Nude

I'm in the process of putting together a "Lolita 101" panel for a local con.

Would anybody be able to suggest some photos of coords (preferably floordinates?) with nice colour balancing to use in my Powerpoint? I want some simple, but well balanced examples to give beginners. If you have photo credits as well, that would be excellent! I've been scrolling through CoF but nothing has caught my eye yet.

>>9832123
>his japanese wife was 14 when he married her with like 30+
Source?

>>9832373
Maybe you can make a floordinates thread for this instead?

>>9832373
I would look at magazines like kerastyle. They have some really basic coords. I think it's more useful to show worn coords to show the petticoats and length.

Does anyone know what this piece is called or of anything similar

>>9832358
It's ~punk~

>>9832279
Are you fucking retarded? Do you know how to do math? For that age the "rule" says anything over 43.5 is fine

>>9832320
This looks like something a sissy would wear, what the fuck. Or a literal baby's dress from Target.

>>9832486
Do you even like lolita?

>>9832486
<------------------------------ That way to /biz/
Get out if you don't like cute shit you drone.

>>9832383
Good idea, will do
>>9832384
True. I hadn't thought of that. That'll help tie into the topic of having the right petticoat shape and volume

Is it wrong that I want LWLN to call out these Lolita Instagram influencers for undisclosed sponsorships? Because she would be a great whistleblower for that.

>>9832491
I do and am a lolita, but that doesn't mean I can't criticize something that I think looks bad.
>>9832493
>not even knowing how to link the board
No need to get so triggered, newfag.

>>9832529
yes it's wrong. influencers are a thing everywhere. are you super old? is it very hard to accept new things from the internet for you

>>9832543
>not familiar with the arrows being a thing
Ah, I see it is you who is the newfag.

>>9832549
>>>/biz/ <---

nayrt but this is the "arrows thing" you troglodyte. you link it.

>>9832547

She's talking about undisclosed sponsorships, not sponsorships in general. Undisclosed sponsorships are generally frowned upon even in the makeup community, why shouldn't they be here? Not disclosing your sponsorship is quite frankly dishonest.

>>9832559
shit happens
should celebs stop doing it too? do you think they wearing those expensive clothes and going to those exclusive resorts was their own idea? they literally get sponsored by entire islands

>>9832129
13 was the legal age of consent in Japan until very recently. The west has indoctrinated you from childhood to find this icky ickybad evil but really it isn't that big of a deal. I live in Spain, which also has a low age of conscent. My mother and father met when she was 13 and he was in his late 20's. They're still together.

>>9832568
Unless you can come with some proof that Trevor Brown married a child, this is off-topic and you need to move on

>>9832564
In the US at least, not disclosing something is an ad is illegal and can get you fined by the FTC. The Kardashians have gotten in trouble multiple times for this.

I am also pretty sure it's illegal in the UK and EU as well.

>>9832583
you should sue hollywood in its entirety, good luck

>>9832583
>the UK and EU as well

>>9832584
Hahahaha are you dumb? Influencers should be honest about their sponsorships big or small. Especially in such a small niche community.

>>9832592
do you also think the likes of sophie turner and bobby brown should be reported to the police

>>9832584
It is in fact illegal.

Hollywood had lobbyists give them an exception, because movies are 'art', but youtube and video games 'aren't'.

>>9832290
>respecting all cultures

>>9832373
Anything Shelby cloud wears shows balance

>>9832393
Pinafore apron

>>9832564
it’s illegal you retard, clearly you don’t know how sponsorships work with your sub 1k follows lmfao

>>9832529
No, I'd like to see it too. Fuck those money hungry attention whores. They are morally no better than scalpers.

>>9832353

No, we should respect incest in West Virginia because it's their culture, you disgusting racist.

>>9832393
pinafore or apron skirt

>>9832908
How the fuck is that racist you goal post moving twit.
How about you take that self righteousness and direct it at those kin fuckers that are in our country than directing shit at another country?
Social change happens from within, which is something that has been actively hurting movements in Japan itself to make those changes, since it's always gaijin with the problem, and gaijin with the solution.

In Japan, it's also very normal to send 5 year olds out by themselves to run errands, they teach self reliance and personal responsibility from the craddle.
Tag that in with how physically, a lot of 14 yo girls don't develop much more until after their 20, so if she chooses to do so and if the parents have assessed the partner, where is the harm to others?
What I'm getting down to, is that different cultures will get to making big leaps, but only in a way best suitable for that culture. It's like you've never bothered learning about anthropology.

>>9832714
Tell that to Risa Nakamura lol

>>9833132
Risa doesn't live in the EU or US you fucking retard.

>>9833089
It's scientifically proven that 14 year old brains are far from maturing. All the~errands~ and ~self reliance~ isn't going to change jack shit about your actual biology, stupid.
>w-well your PARENTS say it's ok so WHAT'S THE HARM
Yes, because everything parents ever decide for their children is 100% okay. Nice try, shithead.

>>9833136
Does that stop it from triggering you?

>>9833138
Stfu. Nobody married a 14 year old. It's bait.

>>9833089
>Tag that in with how physically, a lot of 14 yo girls don't develop much more until after their 20
“If there’s grass on the field, play ball” amirite? Who cares about emotional development?

Well, we had 1 nice slow thread. I guess that's all a gull deserves.

VM's having a press room closing sale and they've also put up some new items for reservation for this occasion.

They're releasing for reservation:
Classical Doll Puff Sleeve Dress (Rococo Black · Rococo peach · Rococo Blue)

Antique Rose Puff Sleeve Dress (Rococo Pink · Rococo Blue · Gray)

Classical Lace Rococo Doll Hat (Rococo Blue)

Reservation priority is given to those who reserve at the press room.

https://www.instagram.com/guiqchaq/
So this store is apparently still open, but it's not a store anymore? How does it work? They used to sell BPN and other gothic lolita brands and even some gyaru.

>>9832279
Yeah that is actually pretty weird though

>>9832279
No, under the guideline being discussed (half ur age plus seven = around the youngest you should date) ur parents’ age difference is fine.

>>9833136
>>9832583
The EU (btw, the UK is in the EU) does not have this kind of regulation. There are several countries in the EU where it's legal, especially when it comes to microblogging.

The anon that was asking about the IW white quality, my sailor dress shipped today so I might get it on Saturday or Sunday. I’ll post pics

>>9833221
Thank you, anon. I am looking forward to it!

>>9832486
You ever seen sweet lolita, newfag?

>>9833189
Fwiw I used to get chewed out by an English friend for lumping the UK with the European Union so that was why I made the distinction.

Also I wasn't aware. I thought I had read something a while ago where some YouTuber got in trouble with the UK government for not disclosing a sponsorship.

>>9833238
KH on cof did a mini review of IW White on her last post.
She's seen the line in person if you maybe want to ask her specific questions.

>>9833397
Again, the EU does not have this kind of regulation. You can do something that illegal in the UK, and it's still legal in Belgium. There are a lot of English unionists who don't know shit about their own country or what the EU does.

>>9833397
You can do something that's illegal in the UK, and it's still legal in Belgium. There are a lot of English unionists who don't know shit about their own country or what the EU does.

>>9833462
Who is KH?

>>9833462
Ok. I think I did remember seeing someone who posted in cof a while back that they saw the line in person, so I will keep it in mind. Thanks, anon!

Which companies do summer lucky packs? Meta and IW?

>>9833189
the uk left the eu lmfao are you living under a rock

>>9833141
>gets btfo
>y-you're TRIGGERED
nice1, retard

>>9833956
Lurk more newfag

>>9833959
>In a referendum on 23 June 2016, 51.9% of the participating UK electorate voted to leave the EU, out of a turnout of 72.2%. On 29 March 2017, the UK government invoked Article 50 of the Treaty on the European Union. The UK is thus due to leave the EU on 29 March 2019.
walnut

>>9833968
stop being a piece of shit just for the heck of it, that is a legitimate question
not everyone watches each and every japanese brand with hawk eyes, I love hearing about brands I'm not familiar with having lucky packs

>>9833985
lurk more newfag

>>9833959
>>9832714
I think I see what is happening here. You're hella stupid and you feel better by calling other people stupid.

>>9833968
Fukubukuro is something that could change every year newfag

>>9834008
lurk more newfag

>>9834008
lurk more newfag

>>9834005
NAYRT but undisclosed sponsorships for promoting products are illegal in most countries. Its an easy fix and people who aren't doing it should be called the fuck out.

>>9834005
>>9833985
>having to samefag after getting btfo'd
sorry your kawaii idorus are doing illegal shit and are getting called out for it; maybe if you had more followers you'd know the laws for sponsorships too

Moitie's re-releasing their Lace Cross JSK in BlackxBlue and BlackxWhite on 1st April.

>https://twitter.com/moitie_official/status/979553861647196160

Help me gulls I can't decide which shoes look the best with this dress- Bows, Lace, or White/pinkbot shose

I think I'm leaning more towards the top shoes/bows..?

>>9834316
This isn't lolita

>>9834316

>>9753001

>>9832547
Not adding #ad or disclosing sponsors is illegal in the us according to the fcc.

>>9834325
fug thank you gulls my b

>>9833956

Meta is the one that does a special print set for summer for about 3 or 5 years running now.

They both do random lucky packs throughout the year though. IW does small blind bags for occasions like Golden Week, Halloween, etc. Meta will sometimes pop out random skirt LPs.

>>9833263
>newfag
Just because someone doesn't like what you like doesn't make them a newfag. I know gulls have struggled with this concept for years, but it's a thing to dislike something. Not all sweet lolita looks like sissy wear or age play shit. Are there prints that do, yes (looking at Toy Parade and Dreamy Baby Room)? All of it though? No.

>>9834076
It's legal in my country

>>9834076
>>9834327
It's legal in my country

>>9834314
Ugh I wish they went back to their old photographs

Does anyone know what happened to tsu_? Did she leave lolita? She was my favourite poupee friend

I just want to bitch about AP bags for a second. I love AP but jesus christ their bag quality. I've had two of their brand new bags basically fall apart on me the first time using them. The pleather flakes off immediately. My WEGO bags are better quality and more than half the price. My SWIMMER bags are nicer and were way cheaper.

I just cant justify the price for their quality anymore

>>9834491
I'm not trying to discredit you at all anon, but I'm wondering what the difference is between your situation and mine. I own more than a dozen of AP's bags of various ages that I've purchased at varying levels of use (from BNWT directly from AP all the way down to "I'll trade you a pair of socks for it") and I've never had any major issues, especially with flaking pleather. The most damaged bag I have has a pretty major stain on the inside from a pen the previous owner kept inside of it, but obviously that's not on AP and the exterior of the bag is still in great shape. I also use them fairly often both in and out of lolita...so what gives? Would you be willing to talk more about how you store them, what your local climate is like, etc?

>>9834076
>everyone who disagrees with me must be a samefag!
my dude, I don't actually even know what you're talking about I just saw someone factually wrong about brexit and felt the need to tell them off
now that I look back, there's defo been backlash in the UK about ads not being presented as ads following the Oreo campaign that people got pissy about for not clearly stating it's an ad, but I don't know of an European blanket ban on it

>>9834314
>Everyone trying to find Moitie's plain long sleeved shirring OPs in the dream dresses thread
>They keep releasing/ rereleasing prints no one wants in cuts that suit very few people

Okay

>>9834491

Also not trying to discredit you either, but my experience is closer to >>9834494 as well. I own less than a dozen though, most were bought secondhand 3 or more years ago, if that makes a difference.

>>9834491
I've had the same problem; never again. I had to use one of my AP bags for classes for like a week, and just the act of putting it on tables or chairs has caused the pleather on the bottom to flake off.

>>9834585
I'm guessing you guys are buying the newer bags made of soft pleather. They've been going with softer and more delicate materials for everything lately, I don't know why you're surprised it doesn't hold up. Buy their older bags of harder pleather secondhand or look for other brands like Jane Marple for daily use.

>>9834621
>I don't know why you're surprised it doesn't hold up.
Because as much money as I'm spending on these damn bags, I'd like to get more than a week's use out of them before they start falling apart.

>>9834631
>>9834585
I honestly think you're just really rough with your items and you don't know it. I'm a daily lolita and it takes far longer than a week for my AP bags to get roughed up.

>>9834491
Lmao, AP is nothing. Did you ever own a pleather IW bag?

>>9834509
>Everyone trying to find Moitie's socks and accessoires
>They keep releasing/rereleasing main pieces
This is the real problem. Fatties begone

>>9834639
AP and IW are on par in my experience. Both are quite terrible. I only stick to btssb an aatp brand bags now. Otherwise I've never had a bad quality experience with IW.

>>9831931
Have any of you seen this? I'm conflicted about this collection... It looks too Meta to be AP.

>>9834585
Are you sure it's not due humidy or too much weight? Pleather doesn't handle moisture very well and the bags are not made to carry a lot in them. I have several brand bags and all have been fine so it's either a change in current materials or improper use.

>>9834646
Did they switch designers? Are they having an affair?

>>9834635
I'd believe that if the wear were anywhere but the bottom of the bags, where I sit them down. I'm particularly gentle with my bags because I've had this experience several times. I thought it was just a shitty run the first few times, but when it continues to happen, I just had to accept that the bags weren't that great.
>>9834649
The most I put in my bags is my wallet and maybe a couple of notebooks or a paperback. Moisture could be a big contributing factor, since I do live in the south, but I've never had a problem with other pleather stuff flaking before.

>>9834646
I'm freaking out right now. I'm not into this collab because I'm not that crazy about TS, but I really hope this spurs a trend of cow prints. pleeeease!! I've waited so long. Kawaii brand cow print pls

>>9834661
The revival of country lolita.

>>9834661
inb4 fatty-chans gravitate to cow prints like they do to chocolate prints

>>9834491
One AP bag I bought BNWT immediately started to fall apart upon taking it out of the shipping box. It was awful. Since then I've only bought one other pleather bag from them (which has held out). I suspect different bags hold up differently, for whatever reason.

>>9834657
Idk what to tell you other than some people are a lot rougher with their bags than they realize because every single AP bag I've owned(and it's a lot) has taken months to a year to rough up.

>>9834646
The Pixar collabs were always highly doubtable. Disney collabs in general are hit or miss for both AP and BtSSB. So I am not surprised.

>>9834677
Hey, as long as you like them and they hold up, more power to you. Your experiences aren't mine, and mine aren't yours, and that's fine. I have bags that I love that I'm sure other lolitas have had awful experiences with.

>>9832583
US here, who polices this? How do you know when someone isn't disclosing some thing?

>>9832320
I love the apron skirt so much

>>9834689
The FTC.

https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/ftcs-endorsement-guides-what-people-are-asking

However it's pretty much up to individuals to report it since generally the FTC doesn't have people trolling the internet looking for violations. The only way to get on their radar without someone reporting you is to be Kardashian levels of famous.

>>9834646
Does anyone know generally what the hip sizing is like on these kinds of dresses? I want this but my bubble butt often keeps me from fitting salopettes properly.

>>9834491
I have mixedfeelings about this. I've owned 11 AP bags now and every one was fine, like you would expect. But one that was apparently from a Lucky Pack, oh boy, it was flaky as fuck. It bare withstood a gust of wind.
I guess it really depends on which material they used.

>>9834491
Pics?

>>9834644
I'd probably buy 2 of each colourway if they did another rerelease of the thorn knee socks

>>9834675
that's too self aware, there's no way

>>9834733
I'm >>9834661 and also fat. I unironically really want a cow print to wear. I like the organic shape of the spots, and white x black always looks kecka good.

>>9832486
I actually have to agree with this anon. At least the OP looks very much like a baby's Easter dress.

>>9832320
Cute but I hate the colors. I wish it came in white.

>>9834786
There is going to be a white colorway. See you at the bloodbath.

>>9834791
Fuck, I didn't realize. See you then too

>>9834763
>fatty-chan unironically wants there to be cow prints to wear

I'm not trying to shit on you for being fat, in fact my best friend is fat and I don't really have a problem with fat people. But I do have to ask where your sense of dignity is with this one? I mean, wear what you like but how can you honestly be okay with wearing a cow print if you're that large? It seems so self depreciating.

>>9834813
>my best friend is black and I don't really have a problem with black people but..
Lol, do you see that there, that thing I did? Sounds pretty racist.
I think maybe you just don't like the fact that some self aware fat people prefer to make on the nose jokes for the sake of supporting something they like.

>>9834813
I said it pretty plainly. I like the look of black on white cow spots.
I'm a human being, not a cow so...

I don't have a disorder that makes me feel bad about myself. I'm a giantess so I'm gonna be large no matter what. I dress up, eat delicious foods, and have fun. my life's pretty good!

>would be better with cow print brand tho

>>9834698
>However it's pretty much up to individuals to report it since generally the FTC doesn't have people trolling the internet looking for violations. The only way to get on their radar without someone reporting you is to be Kardashian levels of famous
That's what I figured.

Seems like some thing you could easily report someone for just because you don't like them.

>>9834875
Just because you're tall doesn't mean you have to be fat

>>9834866
Being fat is a choice, being black isn't. They aren't the same at all.

>>9834929
Hiding behind the 'fat best friend' doesn't lend any additional credibility to what they're saying.

>>9834866
>comparing race to obesity
the wonders of delusional fatties will never cease

>>9834491
How rough are you with your bags ?

>>9834933
They were making it clear what they were saying wasn't a blatant attack on fat people. If you weren't so irritable maybe you'd be able to read correctly.

>>9834866
you don't really think those are in any way the same right ? this is just b8 right...?

>>9833089
we get it, either you want to fuck kids, you're a kid who thinks you're a Big Girl or you were pedoed on and want to justify it.
Grow up, either way. Culture can't just accelerate brain development to that of an adult because you say so.

>it's good because it's always been this way!!
ohhhhhhhh, you're a moronic weeb. I getchu. If it was some village in africa you'd be grossed out because it's not your grorious nippon!!!1!

>>9834866
You can stop being a disgusting landwhale but you can't stop being black. Did the fat get to your brain too?

>a non self-hating fatty comes into the thread
the level of triggered non-fatties is....just too much. Do fat people have to bend over and flaggelate themselves, and only then are they allowed to post here? Let people fucking exist. She's not forcing you to be fat, so why do you care?

>inb4 hurr triggered fatty
not fat, and if that's your argument then I've already won.

>>9833175
>https://www.instagram.com/guiqchaq/
Their pictures are years and years old, see:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bg8BpKzBPX0/?taken-by=guiqchaq : Marie, old kawaii leader - not into Jfash anymore
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bg76UyzB47T/?taken-by=guiqchaq : Princesse Pudding

They haven't been open for like, 2 years?

>>9834954
You're clearly projecting your own issues onto everyone else. Anon said they had a genuine question and didn't have anything against large people, and then on the other hand there's you you coming in here race b8ing to get (you)s.

>>9834936
They were saying it to make themselves feel better about being a biased person, I just called them out for it.
Am I fat? No, actually, I'm not. But proving that will do nothing to stop the 'triggered fatty' comments, so why bother?

>>9834958
Don't forget anon, you're talking to multiple people, it's not like you're in a one on one argument to prove you know everything about everyone.

>>9834963
>Am I fat? No
Then why are you so upset over such an inoffensive comment senpai?

>>9834964
>prove you know everything about everyone

Where did I even remotely try and say this or imply it? Are you actually retarded?

Where is everyone buying their wigs these days? I definitely don't want to buy from lockshop but I'm kinda lost

>>9834955
They are still open. Those pictures are old but they're obviously still active on social media. Also, they posted on Facebook that they are still open.

>>9834509
Mana knows white people can't fit the shoulder measurements of his OPs and pic related is much more flattering than full shirring

>>9834955
They just made an insta account a couple of days ago

>>9834975
>Where is your sense of dignity?
>Why would you wear a cow print if you're large?
>It's so self depreciating
That's a lot of assumptions made in one post, not everyone is as obsessed with their weight to where they can't enjoy prints they like.
When the whale dress came out there was nothing but the same bull then when big girls were wearing it.
Yes, we get it, you don't like that fat people like things.

Go shit on someone else's shit, it'll prove you're dominant and give you something better to do with your time.

>>9835062
t. fatty

>>9835025
yes but it's still sized super small. the cut itself could easily be tailored to fit women with larger breasts, since that particular style w/ the princess seams and flared hemline is actually very flattering for women who aren't y'know, flat as a board.

Fuck. I was stupid and got rust stains on one of my favorite JSKs which are next to impossible to remove. Does anyone have any tips I could use to remove them?

>>9835156
Have you tried soaking in an oxyclean solution? That's usually go-to treatment number one

>>9835150
why would you size things for fat and ugly gaiins instead of your main customer base

>>9835171
Fat and ugly gaijins are the customer base.

>>9835175
This is where you're wrong amerifag the world doesn't revolve around you.

>>9835175
>japanese brand based in japan
>fat and ugly gajins are the main customer base
KEEEEEEK

>>9834866
>self aware fat people prefer to make on the nose jokes for the sake of supporting something they like.
So you want to end up like Chris Farley?

>>9832202
I like it regardless the simpleness would make it easier to wear out.

>>9834509
>>9835025
I dunno about you, but I think this is stunning. I'm not fat, but not skinny either and Moitie said on FB that the L size goes up to 94cm bust, which more than covers me. I'm 100% buying this. I love princess seamed dresses, I wish there were more.

>>9833653
I’m assuming thingsweneverdid since her name is KH.

>>9835549
Wrong image of her

>>9835150
Excuse me? Just because most people don't have cow tits doesn't make them flat

>>9835549
Does anyone know what wig this is? it's so beautiful.

>>9835150
>sized super small
>flat as a board
>94 cm
sounds like we got a fatty on the hook here

>>9835570
It's probably one of those lazy people who didn't bother to check and never intended to buy anything from moitie anyway

>>9835158
I’ve tried soaking it overnight but it did nothing for the stain. I just ordered a rust remover so fingers crossed it works.

Because of "favourable reception" (as translated by bing), VM is extending their Underskirt Series reservation till April 10 (Tuesday), 12:00 pm JST.

>>9835017
Okay, no. They posted at the end of 2016 that their physical shop was closing; they said they'd be holding pop up shops but that never happened. Now they seem to do some direct selling via FB (very few pieces) but they are not a "store" anymore.

>>9834779

I think it's supposed to, they make it quite clear that it's for Easter.

Sometimes I think people forget that Japan and China are foreign countries that don't celebrate Christian stuff and don't have shitty sissies/ageplayers getting off on exhibiting their fetishes. Most of them probably can't tell a baby's Easter dress if it hit them in the face, or maybe they know what it is and it looks cute. I don't think they design it with the same background of trying to avoid kinkplayers the way Western lolitas get so worked up over it.

Is anyone actually deleting Facebook with all the scandals going on or know any lolita that is? Where is Lacebook when we need it? I really want to be off the platform altogether but lolita is so Facebook centric right now.

>>9835647
What scandals? They've been Facebook scandals for years and years

>>9835647
I really want to but like you said, the lolita community is too FB-centric. I could easily do without RC and COF and probably even LU (maybe I’ll make a twitter) but my local comm only exists on FB and if you’re not in that private group, there is no way to find out about events or swap meets. There is a “lolita fashion lovers” group for my region on Amino but it’s full of 12-year-olds who don’t actually wear lolita.

>>9835653
The only reason I have a Facebook is to know about swap meets and brand tea-parties. But there's no reason to have the apps on your phone. I check Facebook once a week and then I make sure to log out.

>>9835649
Mark Zuckerberg tried to colonise the Hawaiian beach.

>>9835570
Some people have a more masculine sized ribcage you know

>>9835520
94cm would actually fit me but I still prefer their plain dresses that are more about the lace trims. This one is just too edgy. I don't see it being very popular because of that

>>9831931
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeuXxTWm3gewaK3i5siVIp03FxPABGNOXALXCVr7F_Xzs8g7Q/viewform?usp=sf_link

tl;dr I'm an artist/designer thinking about starting a little business, so this is a bit of market research. Will probably take 5 minutes max to answer. I'll post this in a few other generals but other than that I'm really not sure where to go with this, I don't have a tumblr appropriate for posting this. S-so I'd appreciate it greatly if you answered and shared it somewhere. All the results of course are sent to the university of Tel Aviv etc.

>>9835730
Done! Hope you get a good number of replies anon

>>9835736
Thank you very much, fäm

>>9835730
>Would you be interested in buying clothing inspired by j-fashion from a shop in Europe?
>Europe
>university of Tel Aviv
wat

>>9835745
It was a joke about how people assume anyone that wants any sort of info on mageboards is a datamining jew.

>>9835749
Ah yes, of course, I forgot antisemitism was cool.

>>9835750
I'm one of the three /pol/-/cgl/ crossboarders and I laughed at anons joke. I'm also a jew.

>>9835750
But it was anti-antisemitic if anything.

>>9834314
I love Moitie but I probably won't buy this. I already have one of their cross JSKs and I'm not really in the market for another. Plus the cross arch lace on the original release is much nicer.

I'd be facinated to find out if it was made in Japan or China though. Same goes for the Sleeping Garden rerelease.

>>9835784
I asked on their fb page about Sleeping Garden, production was in Japan

>>9835581
I'd be careful with that anon. It may discolor the fabric.
>http://remove-stain.com/remove-rust-stains-from-clothes

>>9835647
I already deleted mine last year with my friend. But I was an active comm member before so other comm members email me and her about reservations for meets and I can get all the event dates from a placeholder account. I put it in our g+group and we have quite a few members who use it since it integrates with Google calenders. After blocking all tracking from social media icons and only logging in when needed in private mode, it's been working for me.

>>9835729
I have another dress with a cross like that and people don't even realize it's a cross

>>9835754
surejan.jpg

>>9835784
>I'd be facinated to find out if it was made in Japan or China
Why? I know people have been wary of dresses not made in Japan, but that's mostly because AP keeps changing manufacturers which makes their quality inconsistent

>>9835814
Oh that's awesome to hear, thanks.

>>9835861
It isn't exactly a quality concern, although that's a part of it. I fully recognize that Chia is perfectly capable of producing quality garments. However Moitie has always made a point of producing at least their garments in Japan (I can't be certain with accessories as they aren't labeled like clothing items are). This would be a huge departure from their normal operations, thus would have all the associated growing pains. Factory delays, missprints, miscommunications, quality inconsistency, you name it. Same as AP and other brands have experienced.


Another factor is simply the price. Part of the cost associated with Moitie is the fact that it's made in Japan. If they're outsourcing to China the most likely reason is to save money on production while still charging the customer the usual amount so as to increase their margins. To me if it were being made in China suddenly after all these years it would look like a shameless money grab.

Maybe I'm overly wary but I'm watching this revival closely. If they can bring Moitie back from the dead in 2018 without giving up the things that make it Moitie I will be the happiest goddamn goth ever, and if they fuck it up my heart will break. Sorry for the blogpost, I just have a lot of Moitie feels.

>>9835900
They've posted on facebook that their accessories are also made in Japan by their own staff. No offense but are you going to question if it's made in China with every new release of theirs?

>>9835784
>the cross arch lace on the original release is much nicer.
I actually like the new lace better. It has tiny M's!

>>9835900
VM did it all in Japan, but they had talked about how hard it is. Apparently a lot of places are closing down, it’s hard to source Japanese fabric and labor now, etc. And maybe part of that effort was great but if it costed them a lot then was it worth it? It’s hard to know what it’s really costing them to keep it in Japan.

Sleeping garden has Japanese tags, quality is good. The new jsk they mention a type of lace they are using on it which is different from the old version of it. But it’s still custom lace. So it sounds like it is going well.

>>9835900
I don't think it's fair to say it's to increase margins. Production costs in Japan have gone up for a few years. Other brands that are still produced in Japan, e.g. ETC, have made changes like making less cuts and colours than before. Anyway, this topic comes up every time Moitie releases something new, even though everything they've released after the Tamaqro take-over is also made in Japan.

>>9835900
>Same as AP and other brands have experienced.
AP is a special case because they've changed manufacturers many times in the past couple of years, and according to some people they're producing in several different countries now (including Myanmar). Other lolita brands are not like that. That being said, I haven't heard of any production issues with AP.

>>9835998
>I haven't heard of any production issues with AP.
Really? I recall complaints about some of their pieces being a bit wonky, particularly the lace not showing evenly because the lining it was sewn on was lopsided. Iirc Dolly Cat was one of the prints that had this issue but I may be remembering wrong.

>>9835727
>94 cm
>r-rib cage!!
kek fatties

>>9836004

Was that what it was? I thought anons just said the lace tended to shift with the lining because it was sewn to the lining. I don't think they said it was sewn crooked, it's just hard to keep the lace straight when it's on a seperate layer, just look at the number of girls who have issues with underskirts and peeking petticoats.

>>9836004
There was something with Holy Lanterns latest rerelease as well, like very sloppy sewing and bad zips.

>>9834948
You either completely ignored or just blandly missed the point that change happens from within, and the last thing Japan will do is give to social pressures from gaijin.
In addition, people are just so concerned with other countries sociopolitical issues yet they have no inclination to correct or improve what's happening on their homefront.
I've said it many times now, so if you don't understand then there is no helping you.

>>9835064

>>9836107
>the last thing Japan will do is give to social pressures from gaijin
loooooooooooooool

Can anyone give me a review of baby's long bloomers? Sizing, quality, etc?

Can anyone help me ID this dress? I think it's AP, and after looking through lolibrary, I see similar dress designs, but not this. Maybe from a lucky pack? Most of the dresses have shirred shoulder straps (this does not) and the lace under the corset lacing is vertical instead of horizontal.

Funny as I just spent hours going through lolibrary trying to find it, then opened my lolita wishlist folder and it was the first image there... sadly, I don't know where I saved it from, and it was before I actually started naming files correctly. Shoot me.

A weird question.

If someone I've blocked on other social media contacts me via Lacemarket (makes an account just do so) and does not disclose who they are to me, should I report the account to Lacemarket admins or just not worry about it and move on? (They did not want to purchase the item from me btw.)

>>9836192
Could be Maxicimam

>>9836308
Now that I think about it, I think you are right anon. Thanks, I'll check that.

>>9836303
I'd honestly report it

>>9836192
For some reason I feel like it could be Cornet. Dunno why though.

>>9836192
AP, from a lucky pack iirc. There was also pink & blue

>>9836039
They were probably referring to the large amount of brolitas on this board.

>>9836367
>tfw you're just a tall girl with a 34 inch rib cage and 36 inch bust

>>9836398
Same, anon... I hate being tall

Sorry if the general is not the right place to post this, but I think I might be fucked.
I ordered a dress Oct. 6, 2017 through eBay. I live in Canada and post has been delayed to hell, so when it took several months to show up, I didn't think anything was amiss - especially because another item from a different seller I ordered at the same time didn't arrive either.
It's now been almost 6 months so I decided to message the seller, only to get no response back as of a few weeks now.
Am I screwed because I waited so long? I try to be patient and wait out the delays because I don't want sellers to be punished because of my shit country, but now I think it's come back to bite me. (And the other seller's item I ordered at the same time didn't arrive either, go figure.)

>>9836480
Anon why the fuck didn't you file a PayPal claim? Did they ship with tracking?

>>9836480
Did they not have tracking?

>>9836480
Was it attached to your cc? Call your bank

>>9836398
you're probably just fat, my ribcage measurement shrank when I lost weight because of the excess fat that left the area and i actually have a large ribcage- i have several tall (5"8+) friends with ribcages smaller than mine

>>9836501
Because shipping in Canada has been majorly delayed, so it's normal for things to take at least 3 - 5 months to get to me.

>>9836503
It had tracking but I wasn't able to get it to work.

>>9836504
No, I paid with a debit card through PayPal.

>>9836507
6 feet tall and 135, it's definitely not fat.

>>9836511
You can still try your bank, but you're probably fucked.
Always use your cc.

>>9836512
damn wasn't imagining that height, that sucks then. my b

...secrets...

rolling for team

>>9836625
>peanut butter
Best team.

TEAM MINI BITCHES, ONLY THE MINIEST HATS

Rolling for Chocolate

I better not be Mini I hate mint colourways.

rolling team

>>9832568
>13 was the legal age of consent in Japan until very recently.
You're a dumbass. 13 is the absolute legal minimum. Most prefectures have the age of consent at 16.

>>9836512
>>9836398
Well then the issue is you being too big for the dress, not the company making generally small dresses.

>>9836480
You should still be able to file a paypal claim, the limit is 180 days.

>>9836757
oh, I understand and I wasn't even talking about this dress, nor have I been interested. Just mfw a tall lolita.

>>9836764
Oh my god I can! Thank you, anon!

Okay, I'd hate to bring this up, but did anyone at all who ordered a dress through some means at the Juliette et Justine party in Shanghai, Oct 6 2017, get their dress?

I'm specifically looking at the Robe de Celadon, but any feedback from the tea party would do.

>>9835647

I ragequit FB ages ago and am watching proceedings with popcorn in hand. It wasn't even the privacy issue that irked me, the scrambled feed meant that lolitaupdates stopped being any use at all because I only saw the same 5 dresses that itas are creaming themselves over while the actually nice new dresses don't even show up, not even when I'm on the lolitaupdates page itself. FB was also not showing my posts to other people because apparently I'm not popular enough. I don't know if they just didn't think it through, because when irl friends say they don't even see me post on FB, then it really drives home that anything I post on FB dissappears into a black hole that will never be seen by anyone, ever, so why should I even post anything on there.

My addiction to cgl has just grown with that, though. Much thanks for those who repost stuff from the groups onto this board. I also use the amino app if I need a lolita comm fix.

Rolling for team pls mana sama dont give me chocolate anything but chocolate

>>9837046
Thank you mana sama
Will you bless me for a future lucky pack as well?

>>9836367
By brolitas do you mean the dudes role-playing as lolitas?

>>9837031
I recommend twitter for brand updates. You might have to change the settings to see things in chronological order though.

>>9837065

That's what I use now, also helps that that's what Japanese brands and artists actually use the most too, so the news is even fresher than the FB group. The only thing not covered is taobao updates, but if you really want a non-FB source of that, lolita wardrobe on tumblr always posts what's up for preorder, and then you can work backwards to figure out the taobao shop. There's also Shellolita.com, but last I heard the site admin was having issue keeping the site going.

Kind of wish that we'd stayed in the era of blog posts. I had feedly all set up with different categories so I can quickly get my burando news, but these days twitter is much faster and more reliable with burando news, a lot of them hardly even post to their own ameblo/yaplog anymore.

Test

>>9832071

Okay, who else is mildly peeved that the socks only come in white?

What team
>Wildcats

>>9837031
Same here. My own mother and I don’t even see each other’s posts but it does show me all the inane horoscope quiz results posted by random itas in my comm whose posts I never even like or comment on? What the hell, Facebook.
I also use twitter for brand updates and the only reason I still have FB is to keep in touch with my local comm, who won’t even entertain the idea of moving somewhere else. It’s pretty frustrating.

>>9837157
Team motherflipping p e e p ayy

Reminder all teams are good and we should love each other and accomplish things together

rolling for choco

>>9837143
>>9837157
>>9837212
My condolences anons, but at least we’re all in this teacup together.

>>9836398
>tfw a tall girl but with a 21" bust, small ribcage and tiny ass waist
Lol sucks to be you

>>9837280
Hell yeah team choco

>>9837280
>tall girl but with a 21" bust
Sucks to be you

>>9837159

That's really odd, at least in my case everyone I added was a "friend" and not a family member. I wonder if FB was trying to hide posts to/from family members to reduce family drama?

Either that or the rumours were true, maybe it's a social engineering experiment to see whether forcing you to interact with people you normally don't will "like" somehow force you to start liking them out of sheer boredom? idk, that's a pretty big fuckup on their algo to only show you posts from people you don't particularly like.

>>9837284
;)
Keep telling yourself that, anon. And good luck on your bursting Lovely Bunny blouse

>>9837284
Lol Im actually a c-cup. I was surprised bc I was certain I would only fit like a-cup, but it turns out I just have a very small ribcage.

>>9837280
>>9837281
>>9837297
>>9837305
Team choco ftw

Threadly reminder that team choco and team PB have formed an alliance

>>9837280
>>9837284
>>9837305
I meANT TO TYPE 31" ABORT ABORT

>>9837315
PB with Chocolate is disgusting

>>9837335
>not recognizing the holy alliance of sacred Aztec bean and delicious Mayan innovation

PEEP FOR THE WIN. OUR COLOR IS KAWAII. SUCK MY PENIS.

>>9837338
I still hate PB + Chocolate but I love your response

>>9837347
>ewww it's a sissy

>>9837358
>not knowing that every single girl on cgl including yourself is a rping r9ker looking for a cgl gf
>ewww it's team chocolate

>>9837366
>Not understanding my greentext was a parody of generic lolita responses to gross old men in 'lolita' outfits
>Peeps are cute but they taste bad

>>9837366

>>9837159
I'm seriously considering starting a comm on a different platform. Only thing is that I've never modded before.

>>9837433
ahahaha ty for that fresh OC anon

I want to submit an application to model at a brand tea party, but I'm not sure if I fit JetJ size 1 properly. I spent ages on lolibrary today and I'm close but within the measurements for most of their dresses, but I'm a tiny bit over a few of them. Do they have a standard "size 1" that I can compare my measurements to? Is it worth submitting an application?

>>9837497
What platform would you use anon?

>>9837280
Are you a child? Because 21 inches on your bust means you won’t fit into any adult stuff.

>>9837387
>Not understanding that I got the joke and am just posting because ewww different team
>Team chocolate? More like team POOP

>>9837031
>am watching proceedings with popcorn in hand
where are you reading about this? I'm not seeing anyone else talking about this...

>>9837497
we tried to run an online comm on google+ once but that flopped and died real quick. I wish you luck but at the same time I don't really expect it to work out for you or anyone else who tries

>>9837031
so are you a lonelita or what? cause all comms live exclusively on facebook as far as I've seen

>>9836004
I have a minor fault with my dolly dot op, it took me a while to notice because it wasn't obvious at first. But the lace at the hem has been caught up in the stitching underneath and so the lace doesn't fall uniformly- there's an awkward gap. The label says it was made in china. I haven't experienced any issues with my earlier ap from 2009-2014 personally.

>>9837519
read above, anon misspelled 31

>>9837522
Team peep > team poop amirite

>>9837566
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in Culinary School, and I've been involved in numerous secret cooking competition shows on Food Network, and I have over 300 confirmed recipes. I am trained in chocolate curing and I'm the top chocolate sculptor in the entire US Culinary School graduates. You are nothing to me be just another shitty Halloween candy. I will wipe you the fuck out with candy-making skills the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking whisk. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, sugary motherfucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of chocolate bunnies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the microwave, Peep. The microwave that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking mallow-creme, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can dragée you over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed praline making, but I have access to the entire stockroom of the Cupcake Wars Baking Pantry and I will use it to its full extend to wipe your miserable sugar-coated ass off the face of the continent, you little Peepsqueak. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking cluck. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit ganache all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking microwaved, kiddo.

>>9837570
I bet you don’t even drink peep tea, weakling.

>>9837549
>so are you a lonelita or what? cause all comms live exclusively on facebook as far as I've seen
I wish cgl was more of a comm that you could be apart of. Some anons here even set up a discord to have meets a few times.

>>9837504
They have a size 2 so you're fine.

new thread >>9837615

>>9837584
Doesn’t mean anything. If this is the Paris one, they only want size 1 ppl.

>>9837570
tip kekek