/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9829638

>>9829642
another view

>>9829646

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>>9829663
>Rococo Power Couple #1

>>9829668
maybe this is more Baroque

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>>9829710
>bat-a-rouji

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>>9829717
alternate view of >>9829647

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>>9829742

Are hime and pirate lolita not special snowflake enough for you?

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>>9829762
there is overlap, since many hime and pirate coords draw on 18th century styles for inspiration. however, much of what i have sorted into a hime inspo folder would not be suitable here, and vice versa

>>9829787
end for now, i hope none have been repeats from the old thread

>>9811735
I am actually really happy with Baroque their quality, especially of the lace! Most of their print dresses are polyester though and it also feels really polyesterish on your skin. (Personally like cotton/more cottony fabrics qua feeling.)
The dresses are also very Tall Lolita friendly.

>>9829638
OP is @Toe_Cocotte on Twitter.

pic and video related

>https://mobile.twitter.com/mutyumu/status/975369557052243968/video/1

>>9829846
the dude is @Guiggles

i am trying hard not to spam images of them to this thread. i just stumbled upon their act on Twitter and it is giving me life.

>>9829860
last photo. check @toecocotte's Twitter for more ghastly Rococo weirdness.

Do any of you actually wear this oppulent style of lolita? I wear toned down classic in my daily life, but these threads always make me want to take my daily style a step further without being overly costumish. Is there a happy medium or do you only bust out your fancy hats at conventions and meetups.(i wish i still lived in an area with a community)

>>9829907
yep, plus we have reenactors and indie brand designers who visit the thread. it does not have to be so opulent, i suppose, but finding casual inspo can be difficult.

>>9832501
Does anyone happen to have any casual/daily wearable inspo? I imagine wearing dresses in a design similar to pic related with vintage hats and bonnets maybe?

>>9832605
Yes this is my favorite style of dress. Just wear a savave hat. They all think we're wearing costumes anyways.

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>>9832689
Ending my mini dump of my favorite hats

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>>9832605
Someone tell Gropey there is a new thread.

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>>9832685
Those hats are Victorian at earliest. Wrong thread.

>>9832900
Sorry just dring to dump some fancy hat ideas for more historical lolita coords. Why don't you contribute yourself instead of telling other people off?

>>9832935
Some more fancy hat porn for anon

>>9832937
Fuck dropped my image

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>>9832946
Ending with this for the night before bed. Anybody have any good hair tutorials? Im wearing an ott classic coord to a famous old historic mansion next weekend with a hat similar to this and im having a hard time getting my hair to look right.

>>9832935
Because I contributed everything I had in the last two threads.

How about actually following the thread theme rather than being a salty cunt?

>>9832950
You're litterally the only one being a salty cunt hun. Christ who pissed on your burando?

>>9832977
More photos here: http://freshfrippery.com/2013/01/24/robe-a-la-francaise-18th-century-lolita-dress-project/
I miss the old monthly egl themes

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>>9832990
This girl's hair is goals af

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>>9833006
>that back detail

Japanese indie brand A Closet of Alice (pic related) partnered with Blauer vogel, the brand name of the woman who made the exquisite dress from the last thread, at Romantic a la Mode recently.

>>9833242
here is said exquisite dress, on the RomaAla runway. i am not sure what the extent of their partnership is, but they may have had a booth together.

>>9833245
left, A Closet of Alice; right, Blauer vogel skips ahead a century

>>9833246
their models (back row) and if i interpret correctly, designers in front?

here is BV's web shop, if you want to watch for cool things: https://blauervogel.stores.jp

nothing much good in stock, but based on progress photos shared in the last thread, there may be promise.

>>9833242
Too bad about the satin, not that it's bad quality, just it makes it harder to wear compared to say chiffon or a nice quality cotton
>>9833245
love is this one planned to be sold?
>>9833246
not loving the fabrics for this one honestly, but maybe it's the photo?

@krm0320 on Twitter does simple elegant coords, sometimes inspired by this period

>>9833253
i am not sure if it will be sold! the designer wore it to a wedding, so i think it may just be a showcase.

here is the back of the 2nd ACoA dress

speaking of hats, why don't we bring back these caps

>>9833262
Mob caps? Probably because to modern eyes they look like fancy shower caps.

>>9832977
Not that anon, but the whole point of this thread is very specifically themed on 18th century clothing. Victorian Lolita styles are very well established, and it bogs down the thread to post the wrong stuff.

And to be very honest about it, you were the one that got butt hurt when it got pointed out.

>>9833004
Still annoyed at myself for not getting this dress! I always meant to do so then by the time I saved money she was inactive.

I swear I'm cursed to never get chemise lolita dresses. I also wanted to get the one from Lilith et Adalia, but it sold out in less than a minute and they never did end up offering these, or their other 18th century designs, for sale.

>>9833924
er, posted the back of the dress by accident

>>9833262
I never understood where the "shower cap" mob cap look came from.

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>>9833004
>Years and years of research

But what is this thread? I haven't been to cgl in a while and these pictures are beautiful. Is this a new style of lolita?

A lot of really good stuff in this thread! I'll have to read through more later.

>>9834060
The round cut mobcap is fairly common, but wearing it that far forward is only really for when you're working. Its usually worn farther back otherwise.

>>9834064
Not new, just seems to have garnered more attention lately. I can't complain, as now I have use in discussion of 18thC historic fashion, which I wear for a living and greatly enjoy.

I just found out this existed, and I'm in love! Is there a good tutorial for beginners?

>>9834695
Tutorial for historical fashion? Your local library. Tutorial for jfashion? Google. Experimentally combining the two? Extensive knowledge of both.

>>9834104
looking forward to your comments

>>9834064
no, it is a style that many people have done, but without a unified label. from what i remember, these threads began in /ouG/ with discussion of Macaroni and related styles, which had much in common with ouji: short pants, wigs, tiny hats, etc.

in that vein, here is an old school macarouji

>>9835079
and some contemporary ouji coords, because i am too sleepy to hunt down more old school versions

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>>9835125
top right lol

>>9834104
I've never seen any portraits where mob caps were worn towards the back like that, but maybe I've just missed them. Do you have any portrait examples?

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>>9834716
I can make one for 18thC general men's fashion, perhaps

>>9835079
I really have to sit down on a computer, to get a better look at these photos.

>>9836537
What do you mean? Farther on the back of the head, it's kind of the default for both round and fitted mob caps.

>>9836576
Forgot my trip.

>>9836576
I mean like this >>9833262 since you said

>The round cut mobcap is fairly common, but wearing it that far forward is only really for when you're working. Its usually worn farther back otherwise.

>>9836776
Those paintings are of caps being worn on the back of the head. I still don't get what you mean. Do you mean you want images of the mobcaps being worn forwards, where it encircles the crown of the lady's head?

>>9837189
I mean that since commented that I didn't know where this >9833262 style of mobcap came from and you said it common, just not worn "that far forward" except when working. But the examples you posted don't look like the shower cap being worn here >>9833262

>>9838571
While those are clearly tightly cinched round mobcaps, I think it would be easier to just dump these for your perusal.

Larsdatter, and The 18thC Material Culture resource center, are your new best friends.

http://www.larsdatter.com/18c/womens-caps.html

http://www.larsdatter.com/18c/bonnets.html

https://www.scribd.com/document/160363795/Female-Dress-Hats-Caps

>>9829638
I love Rose de Reficul & Guiggles

>>9834064
It's just re-labelling of lolita coords and adding some costumes but it looks nice

>>9838695
>Dem sources <3

>>9838695
So they didn't wear them like that back then?

>>9839343
Looks like there are a few in those paintings, but they are all in the background and in the middle of working. Wearing the cap forward is like rolling up your sleeves I guess.

>>9838899
>costumes
it's garb, you heathen!

actually, the line blurs with some of these Japanese sewists. i have examples from one who specifies they do not make costumes, but their customers tag the stuff they get/commission as cosplay, but they also sometimes call them coords instead.

here is their work in a street snap with a lolita.

>>9839408
here it is in a more costumey/reenactment scenario.

>>9839412
better photo for the ouji(?) style they do.

it also seems like they do commissions for customized or original characters.

>>9839414
wig and makeup here look like anime rather than street fashion.

>>9839416
they refer to this themselves as costumes, but do not say what it is of, so i lean maybe more towards them doing garb/roleplay clothes rather than cosplay.

>>9839429
their shop is via Mbok: https://www.mbok.jp/_l?u=4077284

some items are listed as "original," some as cosplay (the Sakizo ones are obvious). but are these macarouji items clothes or costumes? i do not know. the fabric choices for whatever-this-is are interesting, though

>>9839429
This looks like a reverse harem anime

>>9839466
doesn't it?

none of the promo materials mention any character names or series title though, and people like >>9839408 wear it as street fashion.

with more investigating, i found the old listing for >>9839416 called the OP "lolita" but the boystyle "original". idk. Rococo wa-lolita is my jam though.

>>9838695
This is great! Thank you.

Angelic Pretty is good for OTT 18th century stuff with sweet flavor

handmade/indie brand Rosalie de chambre had an "Antoinette" dress exhibited at Romantic a la Mode's market. could years of research have gone into it?

>>9843926
pardon, this is their Antoinette OP.

>>9843930
bodice detail

indie hat maker Bloody Rose makes fantastic hats.

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>>9845233
visual macarouji kei

>>9845234
Akira in Bloody Rose tricorn with Triple Fortune rococo jacket

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>>9845245
rococo vkei > rococo punk

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>>9845245
Nice INNOCENT cosplay. INNOCENT and INNOCENT ROUGE is a historical manga drawn by a vkei fan that takes place around the french revolution. He incorporates vkei and lolita influences to the otherwise accurate clothing (Axel von Fersen have been given a himecut and some clothing have BtSSB laces). Each panel is intricately drawn and in itself stunning, his social media accounts on twitter and ig are @14mountain

>>9845698
thanks for the info! sounds awesome

>insta: @byakuya_a

this is truly the spirit of macarouji fashion. a wig would make it next level.

winning Tekko coord from tea party

>>9849770
Disgusting.

>>9847021
a challenger appears! this hair is fab

>insta: @himeladyai

>>9849779
at least she beat K8

>>9839400
>Wearing the cap forward is like rolling up your sleeves
Exactly.

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>>9845253
These are lovely.

>>9843085
The guy's clothing looks baggy and untailored, but salvageable.

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>>9845233
Eh. These are a little too rat-nest rather than detailed.

>>9845237
Meh

>>9845252
Mourning dress and bad wigs are visual Kei now?

>>9845698
I'll have to look this up.

>>9849785
FUCK YES. This is excellent, if only for the proper pipe curl lockes. I wish I had more time to get my hair properly dressed.

>>9845698
I love his work so much, the detail he puts in his fabrics is insane

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>>9851288
> I wish I had more time to get my hair properly dressed.
What do you typically do to your hair for work?

>>9852143
Typically a simple braid or doubled club. Today we got fancy and did french braids.

Nothing as manly as soldiers sitting around and braiding each other's hair.

>>9852233
Ugggh. Seeing this on a comp (posted from phone) in full res after wearing a hat in the VA sun... Looks horrid.

>>9852233
>Nothing as manly as soldiers sitting around and braiding each other's hair.
I'd like to thank /cgl and Gropey for giving me yet one more oddly specific fetish.

>>9834104
Gropey!! <3

also not got much to contribute sorry - have some Amadeus aesthetics and that.

>>9845698
I'm so glad my friends told me to read this manga, it was great.

>>9852803
You're welcome.

>>9852955
I know this movie is so woefully fictional, but just like Quills, the costumes, aesthetics and general tone of the film are perfection.

>>9839462
This is a Kagamine Rin/Len cosplay.

who are they

>>9854953
middle girls face is terrifying. everyone else is cute though.

>>9852233
>Nothing as manly as soldiers sitting around and braiding each other's hair.
damn straight.

thanks for all the commentary, Gropey! you asked last thread why people keep wearing sashes around their waists in these coords, so when i encountered pic related i thought of you. the "sash belt" look seems inspired by these sort of military outfits.

>>9856184
sashes around the waist then seem to disappear for half a century. i am unsure because i am new to such research! at the very end of the 18th century i find pic related. maybe, like jeans under skirts, this is one of those things that popped back after a period of disfavor?

>>9856186
Those trousers look painfully tight
>a portrait artist in the 18c spent time and resources on a detailed shadowing of that guys groin

>>9856184
>>9856186
Inspired maybe, but way off. It looks more like they're wearing tea doilies vaugely pinned on, rather than a proper wrapped sash.

>>9856432
>a portrait artist in the 18c spent time and resources on a detailed shadowing of that guys groin

Welcome to 18th/early 19thC art.

>>9852233
>Nothing as manly as soldiers sitting around and braiding each other's hair.
Such brotherly bonding <3

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>>9856859
Why do you do this to me, clown? Post 18thC bulge plz?

>>9839400
I honestly can't find a single painting where someone is wearing a cap that looks like this shower cap style >>9833262

>>9858098
You mean round caps?

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>>9858339
Can someone explain the neck ribbon thing?

>>9858717
It's decorative, chokers come and go in fashion trends just as they do today

>>9858720
>Thou art a thot!

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>>9858345
But none of these are worn like >>9858098 or look like shower caps. I understand that round caps existed, but they didn't look like >>9858098 nor were they worn in the same way.

>>9859689
There were two in those links with women in the background doing laundry and shit. I doubt you'd have a portrait of them being worn like that, when it's a working class thing.

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>>9859824
Well...

>>9836576
I'm sure many people would appreciate that tutorial if you made it. I'm trying to put a historical-inspired outfit together to wear with my girlfriend when she's in lolita and I'm struggling with how different everything is. I'm looking for ouji/aristo more than specifically 18th century, but I'll take any help I can get.
>Also I'm over 6 foot and a fat fuck so Japanese clothes will never fit

>>9861037
Mind that the only advice I can give is based on historic fashion of the 18th century, and my own taste in goth/punk aesthetic, and I'll be happy to help. As a big guy™ myself, I understand the struggle.

The first question is what kind of look are you aiming for? Any "theme" or pallet you wish to work with? Goth, aristocrat, militant, punk, macaroni etc.

The second is, are you willing to post a pic of yourself? It's easier to suggest styles if I know what shape I'm working with.

Finally, are you sewing or buying?

>>9859829
just a note, that's not a contemporary illustration, it's from 1907

Bump!

>>9872661
Thread still going?

>>9874290
PUPPY!

How does this thread exist without nicolasderascole?? He's the most extra person in the best way possible
will do a mini dump

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>>9874290
Is that your dog?

Are there particular brands one would recommend for starting in this fashion?

>>9874290
Puppy <3 that looks like my girl when she was small ;_; you always make my day Gropey

>>9858337
mR B e N n E t HaVe yOu No COMPassSIOn fOr mY p00R N E R V E S

>>9874290
You glorious bastard. Is that a picture of you at work?

>>9876225
I wish. Just a local who was walking her dogs, and had to show her new pupper. Tiny Australian floof!

>>9876410
Why ";_;"?

>>9876960
Yep, on my way to the 18thC coffee house for my morning constitutional.

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>>9882128
From R. Turner Wilcox's "The Mode in Hats and Headdress: A historical survey with 198 plates".

>>9882128
I've been looking for these, thank you!

>>9877626
Thats a lovely neckerchief (cravat? ascot?). Do you have a better picture? Where to cop?

>>9863259
Different guy, but I was told to seek you out. I'm interested in Military and Aristocrat styles, probably mostly the later. I'm 6'1 and I can provide a pic of my build. Clothes or lewd?

>>9882592
Gropey can set you right, but if you're cute then we need lewds here now.

>>9882641
I can't spoiler for shit, ever, apparently
I would say handsome, maybe not so much cute...I'm also black

>>9882647
Kill yourself nigger, the Klan is watching you

Rococouji Neko

the biggest creamiest puffiest cake dress poof

Go Big Or Go Home

>>9876145
because he was dumped last thread, desu

others said he was more Baroque than Rococo, i think. which imo is fine

Where fore art thou, Gropalope?

>>9829642
Are these musicians by any chance? Kinda remind me of Lacroix Despheres.

>>9891068
no, but the dude on the left goes by twitter handle "kamijo_mana" or something fanboyish like that

>>9876412
i chuckled

>>9892020
Cute!

Is the Venitian Carnival aesthetic an influence of this style? Is that stupid of me to ask? It seems like you guys would enjoy it.

>>9892303
Yes. We talk about it every thread.

mentioned in /ouG/ as well: Ike Ude has some wild rococo-adjacent looks

>>9892367
I've never been in one of these threads before so I'm happy I caught on to something.

check out Midori going full Versailles

>>9893097
welcome, friend

Triple Fortune coat detail

white x gold is not a good colorway for me, but this looks so good.

Surface Spell via Wunderwelt

>>9898600
detail

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>>9902721
wrong file

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>>9902724
more hair like this please

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>>9902730
this is good hair too

>>9835079
Vidoll, nice!
Have some Versailles.

What about these from f+f and what about some tips for building street length rococolita coords?

>>9835118
What dress is this? It looks almost like AP's Soap Bubbles, but not quire...

>>9908992
i think it might be Maxicimam but i am talking out my frilly ass

>coord unrelated