/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9822150

>>9822150
ha ha boner

>>9822150
I want this but I'm broke af. I love black x brown.

I really like this dress. I think it's interesting, with the cut and use of lace being clearly old school inspired but then the print and fabric being so modern and the length being kind of its own thing. The print itself looks like an old school busy floral from a distance but up close it's AATP's typical photoshop nonsense. It's almost like looking into an alternate Lolita history where the trends just evolved differently?

Sorry blogpost. tl;dr this dress is cool.

I wish lolita these days were a little more creative with their cords. The OTT pastel vomit fad is slowly dying out, thank God. However this matchy-matchy mentality is bound to kill the fashion.

>>9822181
It looks too big on the model. I thought so about the OP as well. Not just because they're longer than usual.

>>9822196
The olden days are over, these street snap days won’t come back. Lolita like you know it is dead. Suck it up and live the old style yourself.

>>9822196
Nothing kills the fashion. Nothing happens when you don't wear matching clothes. Just do it. The rules aren't even necessary anymore. Like if all US lolita comms collectively decided to stop wearing petticoats, lolita brands would still continue to do their thing like nothing changed.

>>9822150
>>9822152
this collage style of print really grabs me. it reminds me of the early 90s tendency of mixing stylized illustration with edited photos. this is so nostalgic I love it!!

>>9822196
you think matching is trivial but find me an old school snap of a coord with mismatched lace, type or color.
I'll wait.

>>9822271
What do you mean? Brands use different types and colours of lace on the same main-piece all the time.

>>9822196
It's just kill on what gets posted online, not people wearing it - you just don't know about it because no one is sharing out.

>>9822196
>>9822387
If all of the people complaining about this would post to daily-lolita instead of CoF, they'd solve their own problem. On CoF, you only post one picture so of course you are going to post your best coord. On daily-lolita you can post your experimental coords and lazy coords alongside your best one.
>inb4 livejournal is dead
There are a lot of active comms, and there are still people posting to daily-lolita (more than to egl)

>>9822395
Cgl killed the daily experimental Lolita group though. People just started making threads for that group like CoF to criticize and many people were posted to the ita thread.

I wear lolita every weekend, often just for myself, and I wouldn't mind posting daily stuff but I just don't want to deal with the bullshit and negativity of this place.

That's why I never even post on CoF because I am aware that anything public is a free for all, and I'm sure most daily lolita feel the same. Most of the active members of my comm wear daily lolita but never post. We just want to enjoy our fucking clothes. People are whining that no one posts daily outfits? Well too bad, it's your own fault.

Did buyee get DDoS'ed?

>>9822418
Absolutely correct, and also reading this made me feel really sad. At least people seem to post daily coords on Instagram?

>>9822418
This. Instagram is better but to be honest the casual lolita tag is still mostly swamped with put-together "casual" outfits rather than actual daily wear for most people. I also don't take photos if I'm just throwing something on - the other night I chucked on an OP without a petti & sandals to go out to dinner but I had literally done nothing to my hair and makeup, so I wasn't going to take photos

>>9822455
Yes, or something similar. I get errors for two days now.

>>9822112
Alright, let's start with the most obvious one.

So is this outside of Drag Con then? Because I'm not super into drag, or at least not enough to go to a drag convention, but ive always thought Kaya was so beautiful and had a lot of fun music.

>>9822418
They only did that like a couple of times. Just don't look at the ita thread. Anyway, this convo isn't really about daily/casual coords, it's about seeing less creativity now. Imo if people can put several coords in the same post, they're more likely to throw in an experimental one.

>>9822181
N A T U R A L K E I

>>9822536
Kaya is not a drag queen. He has addressed it several times.

>>9822547
nobody says he is, she's just asking if the tea-party is part of the con he is attending

>>9822547
I know Kaya isnt a drag queen, but he will be attending DragCon and apparently doing a signing there, which is why im asking if his tea party is a part of the con and i have to buy a damn ticket to both, or if it is seperate and i only have to buy a tea party ticket.

Ew, which one of y'all nasties bought that zit-stained Romantic Cat

>>9822537
They did that a couple of times because everyone stopped posting and the group basically died. There are no more threads because the group is dead not because cgl saw the light.

I know people were talking about creative coords but it's seriously the same issue as with casual. People get torn apart. There are plenty of interesting and creative coords on Instagram.

Yeah I could post and just not look at the threads but why should I post? I think that's the line of thinking a lot of girls have. I don't care what people think of me or my coords but that doesn't mean I'm okay with giving content to talk about. There just isn't any benefit for people here..

>>9822637
Somebody with the most basic knowledge of how to clean a dress, clearly.

>>9822643
>thinking a set body fluid stain is going to clean nicely
kek

>>9822570
I dont think its part of the con anon. I think details haven't been announced yet.

>>9822648
That's what im hoping! Im over due for a vacation, and it would be a full day's trip, so i hope they release details soon so I can make some over-night arangements to go!

>>9822644
do you know what soap is

>>9822658
yeah, next time you pop your zits on a thin white material you let that sit for a few weeks and then scrub it with soap. let me know how it goes.

>>9822637
W-what?

>>9822695
From the last general
>>9821386

Are brand socks worth the price? I'm specifically wondering about baby torchon lace-topped socks.

>>9822756
Baby and MmM lace-topped socks (plus anything from iw) are definitely worth it.

>>9822395
Name one person who is still active on livejournal

>>9822726

>>9822756
Can confirm >>9822766
I don't own any MMM socks but IW, Baby, and Meta are all fantastic and definitely worth it.

>>9822766
>>9822808
Thanks anons.

>>9822547
I'm 90% sure it's a separate event, but you can message the Fakestar USA people and ask

Btw, since we're talking about scalpers, I'm wondering what if I refuse from selling my stuff to person, who's known as scalper? Am I going to get some other scoldings besides negative feedback?

>>9822756
My 2003 MmM socks look better than my 2017 H&M socks and take a guess which ones I've used the most

>>9822899
I'd be petty and leave negative feedback saying I refuse to sell to a known scalper. I always check to see what a negative feedback is before buying something anyway. So if I saw that I'd immediately back off that seller.

>>9822941
I mean, the scalper who's trying to buy from me may leave the negative feedback. Although I still think not selling them is right thing to do.

>>9822899

Ideally you'd be able to say in your terms of sale that you can refuse a sale to anyone for any reason, and then PM an LM mod to get the negative removed as well. The LM mods have a rep for being not very responsive though, so maybe that negative is something you'd have to live with.

As for other repercussions, it's the same with any other vendetta. They might try to post your photo in other places and rant about you, and if it's someone in your own comm they might start shit with other members.

If you live a very public life on social media, they might even be able to stalk you online, track down where you live, set some shit up, contact your employers/school/your family/etc, or harass you some other way. Which is why need to lock these down in the first place, blur out friends' faces in your selfies, turn off location, post infrequently and not immediately, etc etc. If all of this is already out there I'd worry more about finding some way to delete your online trail instead of focusing on outing the scalpers, it's way too much info that others can use to harm you.

>>9822950
nayrt, but why would someone put so many effort instead of just not treating people like shit

>>9822953

A lot of dysfunctional reasons. Some 4chan guys have said they stalk some girls simply because they were unemployed and bored, the info was there and the girl made it easy by putting so much info out there.

Others are apparently just psychopaths with animal brains.

Lots of crazy people in the world who don't know how to behave. I'd like to think most scalpers are just people who don't see anything wrong with being paid for scouring sites for cheap stuff and taking the effort to resell them with better photos and descriptions. But who knows, some of them might be nuts. You just want to make sure you minimise your own risks, even though none of this shitty behaviour is your fault at all.

>>9822756
I just bought a pair of the baby torchon lace-topped socks and wore them tonight. SUPER COMFY. The lace is really nice. And they stayed up all night-- definitely recommend.

How does grandbazaar's lolita section always completely sell out in a matter of minutes? Do they have another website other than yahoo, rakuten and their homepage?

>>9822418
I don’t understand why people who make these complaints don’t just stay out of the ita threads. You realise that whenever you leave the house in lolita, there’s a good chance normies are taking pictures of you to talk shit about you behind your back too, right? I have cousins who are part of a Facebook group dedicated to laughing at goths and emos photographed in the street and I wouldn’t be surprised if there have been lolitas posted there, too. It’s part of wearing alternative fashion and it’s never going to go away, so it’s best you learn to deal with it. As long as they’re not coming onto your post to insult you, they’re easy to ignore. I haven’t looked at an ita thread in over a year and asked my friends not to notify me if I’ve been posted and it has improved my enjoyment of the fashion tremendously. More than sitting around complaining, for sure.

>>9822787
amy tasukada
tho she's a bit annoying

>>9822787
lindafishes8
susandennis
ravena_kade
meneleth

>>9822670
Oxiclean covers a multitude of sins

>>9823136
Unintentional typo or not, I still lol'd.

>>9822196
Just wear what you like jackass.

>>9822570
Seperate event, but more details still have to be announched. He decided to do more events when he is overseas and this is one of them.

>>9823066
Because they send a twitter update and some people immedtiately start buying after the update. Same goes for Violet Blue. But, they also both have a physical store, I just don’t know how those are connected to the shop.

>>9823215
Now that I think about it, it's kind of bitter that brand shops are closing down but secondhand shops can afford to stay. I think in all the years only one CC shop closed.

>>9823256
it sucks but it makes sense

>>9823256
>>9823258
A lot of secondhand shops have closed. There used to be way more outside Tokyo too.

Thanks to the anons who answered my question about brand socks. I have been on the fence about ordering them for so long due to the price. I know that brand is generally very nice quality and worth the price, but they are just socks.... I got to the point where I think lesser quality items show (at least to me, and I'm honestly dressing for myself and not others), so we'll see how it goes. Thanks again.

>>9823524
You're going to love them, anon! I've had Bodyline lace topped socks for years and I can't bring myself to wear them after getting some pairs from IW.
>inb4 brandwhore lel
The difference in quality does show, and it does matter.

Anyone getting anything from this series?

>>9823666
I want everything from that series.

>brb, robbing bank

>>9823666
I want the cutsew dress in navy but my wallet said no

>>9823527
Yeah, that's basically how I feel right now. Putting on my shitty bodyline socks with my nice coord just feels off. The lace is bad and doesn't match the quality of the lace (or anything else) in the rest of my outfit and it (to me) sticks out like a sore thumb. I'm excited!

VM's underskirt reservations are up!

Is anyone getting anything? I think I shall get both underskirts in ivory.

>>9822655
I'm going to go and I'll wear either ouji or Lolita, i can't decide which.

>>9823984
I need to stop looking at the comments on lolita updates regarding any VM update, going to give myself a goddamn aneurysm at this rate.

>>9824048
What're they saying? Is it complaints about sizing again?

so a seller on LM of 3 years and 17 positive feedback just tried to charge me for the PayPal fees on a purchase..? cant tell if they seriously have been doing this or they thought i wouldn’t know, since my account is less than a year old lol..

>>9824064
Nayrt, but here's what they are saying. Nothing too bad, imho.

Do moitie's blue prints, like Iron Gate and Cathedral, fade? I bought a moitie bolero to match one of those, and the lace on the bolero is a much brighter blue than the print. They don't match at all...

>>9824206
Why would a lace and print be exactly the same? Diff fabrics and stuff. Moitie lace is different every year too.

>>9824207
I guess I was just naive and assumed the same brand would probably try to match their colours. Good to know there's probably nothing wrong with my dress though! I'll just coord it with something else...

>>9824206
I just sold a bolero like you described so I'm assuming you're the buyer, MmM blues work the same way as AP lavendels does except it doesn't show nearly as much on photo. I'll try take a picture compiled with different MmM blue items and see if my camera picks it up

>>9824212
8 shades of MmM reflex blue

>>9824212
Yes, I'm almost certainly that person, haha. This >>9824217 is incredible, I truly appreciate it. Thank you so much!

>>9824206
When you produce dye, it isn't always exactly the same every year. And it obviously looks different depending on the fabric as others have pointed out.

>>9824217
>>9824230
It looks like it photographs fine and are similar in tone. I think you could still coord them together. It's not like they'll be right next to each other like in anons pic.

>>9824159
Yeah like I said, it's on me to stop reading the comments because that first comment about the waist stretch was enough for me to be #triggered and as you say, it's not nearly as stupid or asinine as some of the other comments that have been said before.

Can anyone with an older and newer (2015) MM antoinette fleur confirm if the older releases are smaller than the newer ones? The listed measurements are the same from 2009, but I remember reading a while ago that they've gotten bigger.

>>9823718
I actually got the cutsew op, hope I can snatch the headbow by the end of the week!

>>9823666
I also love it. But I'll probably have to settle for either the jsk or skirt and maybe a blouse. But if I could I'd buy it all.

Why are there two releases in one week? Can you like calm down AP?

>>9824945
I know taobao is a meme by this point but this seriously looks like a diamond honey dress

>>9822756
I have a pair of the torchon lace-topped socks and while they're nice I think my Meta lace topped socks are much nicer, but I think that may be a difference in style.

>>9824945
AP keeps putting out these berry prints that are shitty compared to the berry prints they did 5 or 6 years ago. Why would anyone buy these new ones

Question:

What would be the basics of a good punk lolita coord? I love the clashing of styles and the edge desu, but I know it's a style that many do wrong.

What makes a punk coord punk? Examples would be great if you don't mind!

>>9824963
These are my favorite punk coords from CoF! Same lolita-- I think she gets the balance right

>>9824963

>>9824963
what i can think of is
>keeps lolita silhouette. that's important.
>allowed to use certain non lolita punk elements, but in a way that suits the fashion. garters, jackets, etc.
>metal, chains, crosses, necklaces, wristwear all very punk
>tartan is popular
>asymmetry is popular

another question here on coordinating.
is it a general no-no to wear a rosary with your coord?

I'm not very religious myself, but I worry about being very offensive to someone else.

>>9824978
Don't wear a real rosary, wear a rosary inspired necklace. Look up what constitutes a real rosary. Brand 'rosary' necklaces aren't real rosaries.

>>9824978
Catholic here and I don't really care, though there's a difference between costumey "rosaries" and actual blessed tools of worship.

>>9824982
>>9824985
I have a real rosary and I usually I would not consider but the color goes perfectly with my dress, at the same time that is my concern that it would be inappropriate.

>>9824945
that headdress is everything
but why no pastel yellow colourway? I need another one of APs yellowxred strawberry beauties

is it just me or does the skirt circum seem smaller than usual for AP?

>>9824958
Milky berry the best

>>9825007
agreed~

>>9824945
This looks so cheap holy shit, I've seen taobao that looks better.

>>9824978
>>9824994

You should really be looking at where you’re going and who you’ll be meeting. In most bigger cities, there’s enough different races with different religions, most people don’t care if you’re wearing a real rosary (and a lot will simply assume you’re wearing China-made rosary jewellery instead of a real one). In which case it’ll be fine as no one will bother getting annoyed. However, some areas have very religious people who will take offence, or if you have someone coming to the meetup who is religious, it’s better to avoid wearing it.

You should also consider what you’d do if someone does ask if you’re Christian. If it doesn’t bother you to explain that you’re wearing something cool you found in a thrift store, and the other person might start talking about Christianity to you, then go ahead and wear it. If you’re going to feel embarrassed or bored talking about it, you know you can easily avoid that by not wearing it.

Finally, if you’re handy, you can also consider taking apart the rosary, remove the religious symbols and then put it together as a necklace. It’s really just a set of beads put together in a strict formula after all, and you said you only wanted it for the colour. I’m mentioning this as an option because you said you’re not religious yourself (so you don’t have any use for a rosary yourself), and I assume the rest of your outfit is not religious-themed (since you only asked about the rosary.)

Going to make my first cross state trade. Wish me luck!

>>9824949
Majikayo.

>>9824958
I want it because it comes in the rare black color and the black highlights the stripe look and gold accents of the dress. That's something I have never seen.

Anyone have anything from Amavel? How's the quality, etc.?

>>9824965
Not punk at all, looks like a cosplay. Punks do use buttons, but not that many accessories otherwise. Punk has more to do with the materials and details of your pieces. Zippers, buckles, simple and edgy

>>9825104
It's ok. It's not Baby or AP, but it's fine for casual wear.

>>9824966
>>9824965
One of the most difficult parts of punk lolita is how it should look natural in the person. Although this girl's coords are usually very good, she's missed the mark here, in part because of her choices of headwear and hair not fitting the punk feel. She'd probably be able to pull off punk lolita better with her natural hair, which is short and coloured.
Also, >>9825137 is right, it's too much. On some people, that can look right. Like Nana Kitade, who often looked a bit too much but it suited her aesthetic. But unless your hair matches too... It won't work.

>>9825145
More Nana Kitade

I guess this pic seems to illustrate the difference for me. This girl recently posted on IG asking if people liked the outfit that leaned towards sweet or the one that leaned towards punk more. The "punk" outfit obviously won, because it looks like it belongs on her, not like a lolita costume she put on. Sure, this doesn't have the direct punk references Spiro's coords have, but it looks less like a costume and more like a casual outfit with some punk (desu maybe more post-punk) influence. Like >>9825137 said, it's all in the details.

>>9825137
please understand that there's a difference between punk and punk lolita. why are you judging her based on trends in western punk fashion?
I see it as ott punk and I think both coords upthread are very fun and interesting.

someone make a punk lolita thread for further discussion and inspo!!!

>>9825144
Thanks, anon!

>>9825198
I am judging it based on punk lolita, do you know anything about it yourself? Are you even familiar with the jp punk brands? If so, you'd know why I hate that coord so much. It is literally just edgy OTT sweet lolita, nothing punk at all about it. Like when people call holy lantern gothic.

You can't just throw on a pile of accessories and call something what it isn't. I love gothic and punk lolita and hate how unpopular the brands are, but it makes sense when people think this is what punk is

>>9825233
>>9825198
>>9825155
>>9825148
>>9825145
>>9825137
>>9824966
>>9824965
>>9824963
Here you all go! >>9825235

>>9824965
I love this so much. The dress should be longer though and i'm not a fan of the headwear. It's a bit too OTT (the extra necklaces,bracelets and pins)

>>9825236
>how to kill a conversation

>>9824217
Lots of those have faded though. I own some of those pieces and they look much more vibrant.

>>9825318
Look at the picture this way, you see the very light upper left corner? That's my true black bedspread, this photo is sans cropping unedited. While the two cotton blouses are faded the others are a true black, the rest is shitty lighting

>>9825287
are you...dumb?

>>9824048
>>9824348
Same. I keep getting reminded of all the fat AP and Taobao girls in my comm who practically gloated about VM going under when the announcement was first made, then kept rubbing salt in the wound by showing fake interest and fake disappointment every time a release of theirs was brought up.
>I’m assuming this doesn’t go up to a 110cm bust? Shame, I would have loved to give them my money if this came in my size~ UwU
Bitch no you wouldn’t, you only wear bright pastel cat and pony prints.

Sometimes the shit youtube recommends to me is just baffling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_DYt_Wp7LY
Sorry gulls but if I have to suffer so do you.

>>9825593
okay, so far the delayed intro and the freaking remixed traditional music are making me want to shoot something...

>>9825593
>that goth chick says she's 23
>looks 38

Damn now I don't feel so bad for being an oldfag lolita. I look closer to her age than she looks.

>>9825664
The one in the beginning? I don't think she looks THAT old, maybe late 20s. Her styling is just sort of bad.

>>9825593
>that title
>too much focus on "omg it's not a fetish you guise!!!1"
>not enough focus on the actual fucking fashion
>almost no shots that show the actual clothes
>terrible pronunciation of simple words
>everyone including the normie "interviewer" looks mediocre to ita
>obligatory hideous brolita
It's like they used a terrible lolita documentary bingo card as reference.

>>9825593
Wasn't as bad as I expected. Everyone seemed decently dressed minus the 3 months old brolita. The interviewer had a sensitive and respectful approach.

>>9825464
Look at the new 'Punk Lolita' thread, and see that it is barren.

Has anyone else received a message on insta from @lolita__princess02 asking to be their friend? I'm getting creeper vibes from them.

>>9825593
That brolita is so bad, jesus

>>9825714
>princess josh
>possibly underage
Yeah I'm good.

>>9825675
The scene where they are just sitting there talking and eating was really awkward.

>>9825039
Thanks so much for the thoughtful reply.
Defiantly thinking about things I've not thought of.

Your idea of modifying the rosary is great, I would not have thought of that.
Think I will try that.

>>9825664
>looks 38
I think you're kind of projecting, anon. She looks around the age she said to me. Her hair is just a bit bad and her face is angular.

>>9824958
They obviously sell and berry prints are iconic to sweet. I personally like seeing the variations and some people outright collect berry prints.

>>9825593
That brolita makes me sad, he seems enthusiastic about the fashion but looks awful. He could be decent and fit in better if he learned about wigs and makeup, I hope he improves

>JetJ doing rerelease MTO
>Almost 700 USD for this print with no other detail
>No custom sizing
https://juliette-et-justine.com/products/detail.php?product_id=1126

>>9826250
So fucking ugly for that much

>>9826250
that model looks a lot like beescuit...

>>9826250
I don't understand how a brand like JetJ can make stunning high detailed solid pieces and also beautiful printed pieces (like dragon-chan) but also overpriced gaudy fuggo prints like this.
I love this brand but sometimes they confuse me.

>>9826265
She does look a bit like her.
Bee was cuter though.

>>9826254
J&J has never been exactly pretty to begin with ever since they started those awful prints.
They used to make decent things before

>>9826250
The first release had so many problems with construction. You can see the puckered hem even in the photo

>>9825957
Different anon but I'd agree on 38, it's the angular face.

>>9826250
I honestly love this print but they’re getting ridiculous with pricing.

>>9825148
God I love her style.

>>9826250

Chinese lolitas voted for this to be re-released. The poll was on weibo for months. Western lolitas are obviously not interested in JetJ, otherwise they would have flooded weibo with their vote to change the outcome.

There was also a pre-selection poll where you could vote for everything and the most popular designs would then compete against each other in the final voting, but of course with Chinese tastes only the most tacky designs ended up in the end round.
http://vote.weibo.com/poll/138587979

I found a plaster in my mcdick's fries. What's the likelihood they're gonna pay me the big bucks (and will I be able to buy my dream dress with the payout?)

>>9826299
WHY OH WHY won't they rerelease the god damn unicorn print.
>not that I have money for jetj anyways

>>9826299
I'm glad. Amerifags would've voted for random solids they'd never buy because they don't fit.

>>9826250
I personally love this print, but the quality issues are a no from me dog.

>>9826325
I just saw that comment on facebook... Almost $700 for that hemline? girl...

>>9826308
Ew.
But also took me a second to realize what you were saying. Some anons might not realize plaster = bandaid/bandage.

>canadafag, I think plaster sound cuter than bandaid

>>9826322
Well, not everyone is a Amerifat. I'd buy solid dresses like Robe de Celadon or Tenderesse in a heartbeat if they had re-released them instead.

Posted in the feels thread, but it got buried by shitposting:

I've been feeling pretty uninspired by my wardrobe lately. I have 75+ main pieces, and I like them all individually, but when I go to coord them, I'm at a loss. Maybe it's my mood (I want to make a bunch of pastel vomit coords for spring, bUT most of my stuff is darker) or maybe I need more blouses/shoes/accessories, I don't know. I see girls on instagram wearing amazingly creative coords and I feel very cookie cutter in comparison. I want to make interesting coordinates, but I don't seem to have any good ideas. Have other gulls had this problem? What have you done to fix it?
I'm not looking to sell my dresses, just for ways to be more inspired by what I have.

>>9826722
I think focusing on things like blouses, legwear, and accessories can make it feel like you have an entire new wardrobe. Do you have many skirts? Skirts are incredibly versatile, and you can make tons of different coords just by changing the blouse.

>>9826722
Could you make a collage of which pieces you have trouble creating interesting coords with.
You obviously don't have to post your entire wardrobe.
There is also a coord help thread you should probably post in, to ask for advice instead of the general?

>>9826722
Sometimes when I have nothing to do on a day off I take everything out of my wardrobe and lay a bunch of new coords out on my bed, then photograph the ones that looked nice for future reference. I only have 20 main pieces though.

This anon >>9826731 has good advice on skirts, and if you wear gothic or classic it wouldn't be a bad idea to invest in some bustiers and vests if you do have many skirts, it's like mix and matching to make your own JSKs.

>>9826536
Try getting more blouses and accessories, you can make a pretty dark main piece look spring-y if you coord it right.
>>9826250
Man, J&J is my favorite brand but these prints are killing me.

>>9824958
lies, RBB master race

>>9825714
I've gotten messages from two other accounts they've had and I got the same kind of vibes. They say they're some 16 year old, but I wouldn't count out a sissy rping.

>>9826722

I don’t know if it got buried. It’s hard to comment on that when the issue itself is so vague. Is it a wardrobe problem or a feelings problem, seems to me like you gotta sort that out first before trying to figure out how to fix things.

As for your wardrobe, all we really know is you have enough main pieces. But do you also have enough supporting pieces? Is everything one substyle and you’re bored of that substyle, or is everything different substyles and therefore the closet is fragmented and difficult to match?

You should be able to pull at least 3 coords out of each main piece (even the OPs can go under a cardigan or over an underskirt or something) so if you don’t already have that down, that’s a good place to start looking critically at your wardrobe. If you’re just bored of the pieces or the substyle, do consider doing a cull and transitioning to a different style, first sign of being a hoarder is being unable to let go of physical objects because of blocked feelings.

When you say “creative”, do you mean you want to dress like that, or do you feel you can’t keep up? If the former, then creating an inspiration or mood board will help. If the latter, then take time to reflect on what you really want out of lolita, when and where do you want to wear it, and realise that it’s okay not to be creative. Life isn’t a beauty pageant, you’re not dressing for creativity marks from the internet.

Or maybe it has to do with lolita itself? Do you have enough places to wear outfits to, and does your wardrobe match the occasions? Are you just getting bored of lolita? There’s no shame in it if you are, again, don’t hoard dresses just because you feel a particular way.

- If it’s just wanting to make pastel spring coords but all your stuff is much darker, I’d take that as a coord challenge to make a spring coord from darker elements. Could be as simple as adding flowers to a dark coord, or pairing it with pastel blouses/bolero.

>>9825714
They claim to be 15/16 but I'm doubtful of it and their multiple pages give me sissy vibes, they messaged me a while back asking to be friends, but there's really something off with them.

>>9826850
>>9826873
Especially when they mentioned genderqueer, I'm wary of a sissy. They did vote on a poll in my insta story today though.

Has anyone ever opened up the pintucks on the back of a [baby, in this case] blouse to get a bit of extra bust room? Just curious because I recently bought a blouse that should have fit with a few cm to spare but the seller was totally off with measurements, and while I can button the blouse up without the buttons popping off or gaping open, it's a little too tight for comfort. having looked at the blouse, there is quite a few cm taken up by pintucks and I'm pretty sure opening one on each side [because symmetry, I think one would be enough] would work, but before I do so I was curious if anyone else has done something similar? did it work?

>>9826966
You might be better off asking this in the sewing thread as well.

How much of a sin would it be to just remove the sheer over skirt layer from an Angelic Pretty Celstial JSK? And if I ever sell it again, how much would it be still worth?

>>9826974
You'd probably have to take a big loss on it because it would be missing a major piece.

>>9826974
Your dress, you bought it, do what you like. Yeah it would dent the resale value significantly, but who cares if it means you get more wear out of it.

Resale value should not be the primary concern of this fashion, getting enjoyment out of the clothes should be.

>>9826974
People might think it's some custom replica though.

>>9826974
I mean if altering the dress means you'll wear and enjoy it more then alter it and to hell with the resale value. Honestly the resale value shouldn't be a factor in your decision making process.

>>9826974
Why not go for the skirt or OP instead?

>>9822766
>>9822808
>>9822924
Thanks anons! I got my baby socks today and I love them! I definitely think they are worth the price (I paid 28 dollars for them) and would pay that for them again.. it was the 15 bucks shipping that I think is outrageous. lol.

Regardless, they are really nice socks and I'm glad I took the plunge. But a total of 43 dollars for one pair of socks is a bit insane since they were only coming from one state away. WTF baby SF. why such crazy shipping?

>>9827087
I would buy from Baby more frequently if their shipping wasn't so ridiculous. I'd much rather buy socks or barettes or other small accessories new from Baby over having to scour secondhand to avoid paying over $40 for a pair of socks

>>9827132
I honestly just pretended like I was buying from overseas to justify the insane shipping. The socks are definitely nice and worth 28 bucks, but not worth 43 when they were in the same country... seriously their shipping is insane. I saw something in the faq about small refunds if the shipping was less than estimated, but I must not have been lucky.

>>9827005
>>9827020
My plan was to transform it into a detachable piece with a small button, so it still can be worn.

>>9827022
I see what you mean. I would probably really enjoy it more, as the overlay is sucking away so much of the print, especially in bad lighting this cheap organza overshines it completely

>>9827033
The style of the OP is not really speaking to me and I don't like Lolita skirts on me. So the JSK it is.

Let's talk about lolita dreams.
Last night I dreamed I was at the japanese AP store and they were releasing a secret print that they would only show in real life and not online.
So I'm going there,they have a curtain on, they announce the name of the print being "Melty Princess Love" and drop the curtain to reveal a sweet lolita/princess actually melting. Her body,her face and her facial features,her hair,... everything was melting. And she was screaming/crying in pain in a disturbingly low voice as she reached her melty hand into the crowd.
Then I woke up.

>>9827256
If you're good at sewing, I'd say go for it. But I also hate the organza overlays to death, they ruin every dress AP puts them on. Making it detachable is a great option for the buyer and I don't think it'd lose a lot of value were you to resell it.

>>9827343
Whatever

>>9827343
that’s pretty great, some indie company should make a print like that.
i once had a dream i was going to a big tea party but I forgot something and was freaking out.. that was a nightmare!

>>9827343
Man, today is a day for weird/uncomfortable dreams. I posted mine in the feels thread earlier... >>9827232
Your dream sounds like a good premise for a tabletop rpg or something though!

Have any of you bought the Sheglit kimono dress??

>>9827343
I once had a dream that there was supposedly an angelic pretty store in the middle of my town but you could only go by walking to it. It turned out to be in the back of a weird laundromat and it only had bodyline. But I was still happy even though I didn't buy anything. Dreams are weird

>>9824978
>>9825948
Wearing stained glass related jewelry is another way of coordinating on theme and easily recognizable as religious without offending.

>>9826966
Not baby, but I’ve done this on the seams of a few IW blouses I never intend to sell just to make things cozier: as long as you keep it symmetrical, it works wonders. I would much rather adjust the seams on something than have to deal with the fabric pulling and eventually thinning out.
I’ve also found that wearing the right bra works wonders. TShirt bras that just squish down your bust kinda just add mass everywhere; instead opt for sheer structured bras that lift your bust up and out. You’d be amazed how much nicer things look on you.
t.30G

Kinda a blog post, but I finally achieved all the colors of MM’s Angelica and VM’s French Marine Ribbon that I care about, it’s fulfilling to look at my closet and see them all staring back at me! Does anyone else collect multiple colorways of dresses they really like?

>>9827343
Is it bad that I want you to post this in the draw thread? I'd love to see what some of our artist anons come up with.

>>9827343
I remember having a dream about scamming someone online in order to get a Meta OP for free. Then I was thinking "see, brand is really easy to afford if you scam people!"

>>9827390
Related, I just got my first ever MM dress and while I’m just a 28C and under the listed bust measurement, when I tried it on with a t-shirt bra about a quarter of my boobs sat squished underneath the bust line. I’ve never had any problems with my boobs sitting particularly low before. Is this a common fit issue with MM and what kind of bra would help with this? I’ve never seen a lifting bra that didn’t have some kind of padding, which isn’t really what I need here.

>>9826974
Iirc the special sets don't have the overskirt

>>9827493
Afaik MM's waist generally sits pretty high in comparison to other brands' natural waist cuts; it's not necessarily a high waist cut like AP has been releasing, just how they draft their cuts in general, if that makes sense. I might be wrong but I don't think a specific kind of bra can really help in this case.

>>9827493
I’m >>9827390
Since it seems like you have an even rarer size than me, a bralette might work for you. If you try a sister size, you might be able to find no-padded freya underwire bras. Best of luck!

My friend found this, but there is no price, just best offer. What is a fair price for it?

>>9827760
By the wording on that post she seems like she's expecting 200+ because it's a "rare and popular print" like, literally every other listing on LM.

>>9827760
You can search through the completed auctions on LaceMarket. Seems like it's anywhere between $120 to $150, so maybe start with the lower one?

>>9827760
$60

>>9827760
100 at most, skirt prices have tanked and those dropped waist skirts tend to sell cheaper anyways.

>>9827493
That's weird. I'm also a 28C-D (bust 31.5"-32", underbust 27.5) and have never had that issue at all, in fact I often wear push up with MM because it fills the bust area out better. Are you particularly tall or long in the torso?

I know this is old news but why did Romantic Cat have to be such a disappointment? I love the print but some of the design choices/flaws about it are just...

Is it the worst quality AP release in the past few years?

I might join the Atlanta lolita comm soon (am from germany,moving to the US for husbando)
How is it there?

>>9828261
I only wanted it cause it came in grey and the print was kinda cute...

secrets

>>9825714
Yeah, called them out for messaging every lolita with their copypasta, and told them to fuck off and blocked them.

>>9828166
> dropped waist skirts tend to sell cheaper anyways.

And thank god for that, because I fucking love dropped waste skirts

>>9828332
>dropped waste
Thanks for the laugh, anon

>>9828334
kek that's what I get for posting on /cgl/ without finishing my coffee. Sorry for the unintentional shitpost.

>>9828308
Third one is just bizzare.

>>9828095
>>9828097
>>9828161
>>9828166
Thank you so much anons!

>>9828261
What did you dislike about it in particular anon? I can definitely think of other releases that are poor in quality from AP, but I wouldn't have put Romantic Cat in that list.

Not that anyone other than me cares, Baby Ponytail released images for their next set. (V small dump incoming)

>>9828424

>>9828424
>>9828426

>>9828413
different anon, but the bodice of the jsk was incredibly short and small and even when my friend who is quite small and petite, the way the bodice was designed it looked way too small even for her. i wish that the border print was scaled down a bit smaller, and i wish the lace was attached to the hem and not the underskirt so it would show better and not ride up when worn. the button holes on the straps were also too small for the buttons and the buttons had to be cut off because they wouldn't fit through the loops.
all these complaints i've also heard from many other people who got it, and some of the complaints were even worse.

Speaking of dropped-waist skirts, I own pic related (AP chess emblem skirt) and it has fairly generous waist shirring. Does anyone know of other skirts like this that stretch to over 80 cm?

>>9828424
Nobody cares

>>9828453
Great reading skills buddy. Either that or your comedy sucks

>>9828424
>>9828426
>>9828428
It looks cheap and ugly

>>9828413
OP here. I really love the print and I think the colors and lace choices are beautiful. but like the other anon (>>9828289) said, I dislike how the bottom lace is sewn to the underskirt/lining instead of the hem, as it makes the lace poke out unevenly from the bottom of the skirt when the dress is worn. Another thing that irked me is that the tails of the front waist bow aren't even in length. Also, while I didn't have to detach the buttons for the shoulder straps like the other anon, it's still very difficult to fasten and unfasten them.

I feel like the design elements and details of my other AP pieces seem a lot more intentional. I think I'm just more disappointed by the dress because I do like it, I just wanted to really love it.

What releases would you put on the list?

>>9828538
ugh, sorry, i meant >>9828448

>>9828424
I really love this release and i want it but im not very tall. Barely 5'3" and im woried it will make me look shorter and stumpuer then I allready am. I love most of their releases but the legnth always holds me back from buying anything.

>I also wish I was ballsy enough to wear fancy ott historical inspired lolita in my day to day life but im only ballsy enough to wear toned down gothic and classic in my day-to-day life.

>>9828284
I’m so sorry

>>9828543
>Holy shit another BP fan
Bless you anon.
I'm on the other side of the fence for the dress length: at 5'9 its pretty hard to find sweeter lolita dresses that wouldn't make me look like I'm wearing children's clothes(looking @ you, AP), so im pretty happy with the length

>>9828336
2 for 2, anon.

I've sold a blouse which came with a removable accessory, unfortunately I've misplaced it somewhere in my flat (the place where I live is very small so I will find it, eventually). I've apologised to the buyer, let her know that I'm looking for it and offered to cancel the sale if she prefers that to not keep her waiting. She asked me if she can just have the blouse without the accessory for a discount. What would you do, anons? Should I go for it or decline her offer and eventually sell the full set when I do find it?

>>9828657
Go for it. But don’t make much of a discount. If she doesn’t like the discount then say too bad. You made a generous offer to her.

Just saying no isn’t BAD persay but you already initiated with this buyer

>>9828657
Well, you already sold the blouse, didn't you? It's not irrational of the buyer to ask for a discount in that case.
If you really want, I suggest keeping in mind when your buyer messaged you (24 hours ago or less?) and searching your flat thoroughly one more time, based on that. If you have time to search and you find it, let the buyer know and keep the price you initially asked for. Otherwise, give the buyer a discount. If you find said accessory later, sellers typically send the newly found pieces to the buyers on their expense. It kinda sucks but so does receiving a blouse that's missing a piece.

>>9828424
>>9828426
>>9828428
These are hideous

What's the Atlanta comm like? Moving there bready soon

>>9828698
I live a hour away from Atlanta and because of this haven't attended any meets (due to school/work interfering with the time I'd need to drive there) but I am in the Facebook group. I got tired of being a lonelita for the past 5 years because dead comm in my city, so I just took the bullet and joined the group in hopes that my schedule would line up with a meet.
It seems a little ... dead based on the Facebook page. There's not a whole lot of activity. Meets are planned every once in a while but it doesn't seem often. I honestly don't know how much activity a comm should have but despite being a very large city, I think it has less activity than other large cities. I think part of it is that not many people are planning meets and don't take the initiative.
Not as bad as the comm where I live, though. I'll probably be attending meets over the summer and I'll be new to the comm, so I guess I'll find out if it's as RIP as I'm afraid it is. I guess it's better than having no activity at all, though.

>>9827493
Soma has a lifting bra without padding but I'm not sure they'll carry your size

>>9828676
Get over yourself

>>9828428
I kinda like these, but is Baby Ponytail really from the UK? It has that taobao aesthetic.

>>9828424
>>9828426
>>9828428
Hm. I don't mind the ivory and the blue colourways, but the print on the mustard-coloured one seemes to busy with all the contrasts

>>9828795
The designer and company are based in england but the stuff is made and shipped from china. So I guess that's why. I really like their prints, though. They have an interesting aesthetic.

>not quite taobao

>>9828426
I really like the white JSK (but why is there a doll pinned to her blouse???)
Idk. Might buy.

>>9827343
wow great timing for this post because I had a weird one last night.
I was at some sleepover event at my old school's campus and an ex-friend of mine who I fell out with was there. she was wearing one of my beloved DDs and a Moitie coat which I apparently lent to her before we stopped being friends. she wouldn't talk to me and just kept flaunting that coord which she clearly wasn't intending to return. I felt so helpless but kept trying to stay calm and cut my losses.

it's funny I had this dream. haven't seen that girl in over 2 years and I couldn't fit an MMM coat if I tried...but I'd treasure the everloving heck out of a Moitie coat that could fit my shoulders etc. I think that came from a very anxious place in me. valuing my stuff so much and being worried that my normie friends would take or ruin my things. I currently have a friend who likes to dress up in lolita with me but she's not knowledgeable at all about the fashion. she doesn't even try to look into it and learn about it. I always have to explain everything and I start to feel self-conscious and over the top with how much I love this hobby. we made a date to dress up, which was really fun, and I was looking forward to picking out a coord for her. but she wanted to wear one of my most fragile dresses. everything ended up okay and I didn't want her to take offense by trying to get her to wear a different one of my mains...but apparently my brain was still freaking out about potential damage since I had that weird stress dream.

I don't think I'm going to share my pieces with a non-lolita ever again. it's just stressful and not worth it. my wardrobe means so much to me. though it's fun to have a dress up partner I can't teach someone how valuable and special these old dresses are overnight. I don't even want to imagine having to replace one and how long that could take.

Anyone snag the ATELIER PIERROT Baroque x Sakizo “Antique Frame and Royal Jewelry” OP?

>>9828538
>the bottom lace is sewn to the underskirt/lining
I thought that was quite common for the polyester dresses?

I've always had problems undoing the buttons if they are a irregular shape like stars /shells /roses, so I'm not sure it's really abnormal. They are probably worried about it slipping off and really if you're unbuttoning it, you're probably doing so to move the button.
The tails being uneven, I honestly didn't even notice so it seems to be a design element as it is consistant with my dress as well. I also really wanted to love it, but I knew it wouldn't happen because of the polyester.

>>9828448
Huh, I'm kinda petite, but a little busty for my size, but it seemed like a reasonable length to me? It was similar to a few other dresses I own in length of bodice. Though I don't think this is a quality issue, more of a design element.

Releases I would say were pretty low quality were Aquarium Carnival, a special set (not surprising), and Twinkle Sky maybe for lack of detail. My best quality ones seem to be made either in Japan or the Philippines and worst in China and Myanmar (though I do have one good one made in China).

>>9828261
Not sure if it counts as low quality, more like lower quality but many of the newer AP dresses don't have a small petticoat built in anymore, which is kind of disappointing. It's not like it can hold up the dress on it it's own but it keeps it sturdier and looking nicer with a petti.
Also when I bought Fancy Whip (also had no built in petti) directly from AP it didn't come with a spare fabric swatch. I feel like AP is cutting corners lately..

is bttsb cheaper than angelic pretty

>>9829313
Lol

Didn't see a local com thread. Is there any sort of lolita presence in idaho or is salt lake my closest bet for events? The facebook pages are dead.

anyone buy from ebay for secondhand dresses?


also is there a downfall on replicas?

>>9829317

Not in Idaho but a neighboring state. The closest comm to me is like 6 hours away. Not quite as far, but it isn't quite worth it for a local tea party so I know your frustration. I just fly out for larger events now and am known as that strange lonelita haha.

>mfw I know the local weebs go to Idaho because that's the nearest convention center

>>9829294
They don't have built in pettis because everything is polyester and chiffon. It would ruin the softer look. The cotton prints still have built in pettis. Also the fabric swatch thing seems random as I get it with some dresses, but not others.

>>9829317
If your north ID
There is a comm in Spokane
and kind of one in CDA.

>>9829317
I've seen some questionable lolitas walking around in Pullman WA but I don't know if there's a comm if you're in the Lewiston/Clarkston area

>>9829294

I think they took the built-in petti out because polyester fabric is usually much thinner and more drapey. The line where the tulle is sewn in would have shown up as a bump going all the way around the dress because the fabric is so drapey. Same reason the bodice on these dresses are made with funky raw edges in weird shapes, so that there's no bumps from serged or folded fabric showing on the chest side.

I can confirm that Whip Factory at least still has the built-in petticoat, it puzzled me that a special set would have it but not a regular release, until someone mentioned the thing about leaving raw edges in the bodice.

The sample fabric swatch is a bit of a mystery to me too, but to be honest I think it's something people mostly throw away instead of using it to test laundry methods, so I wouldn't be surprised if they nixed it because they saw it as added cost without much added value.

>>9829321
Yes, I managed to get the black OP of twinkle sky for £120 from Japan on eBay.

>>9829313
>>9829321
I'll recommend not using ebay if you don't know what you're looking for, it's not a good place for a newbie to shop. And please lurk more, you sound very new.

>>9829395
Whoa I had no idea that's what the swatch was for. I just followed the instructions on the tags and hoped for the best. Now I'm sad that isn't a thing anymore.

>>9827455
Seconding this

I asked someone on LM to leave me feedback about a week ago. They read the message, and they still haven't left feedback.
What am I supposed to do? I really would appreciate feedback on my profile, but I don't want to be annoying to them.. but they're almost refusing to give me any.

>>9822150
Recently I have received pms in LM with people asking me for free shipping or wanting reduced prices, I wonder if my prices are too high or what. I'm not in a hurry to sell, but I wonder...

Could anyone who ordered from the IW White series comment on the quality of any of the items? I kind of want to order the sailor dress so I was curious.

>>9829800
It's called haggling.
Sometimes I'll ask for like, 20% off or to have shipping included if that might feasibly be more than what a seller would reduce it by.
I think asking out and out for any more than that is just rude.
Likely, the people messaging you want what you have enough to wait for you to start reducing it on your own, but would rather not have to bid war to get it.

>>9829800
If you dont like their offer why not send a counter offer? Somewhere between what they offer and your asking price. I mean you dont have to if you dont want to or dont need the money, but sometimes id prefer someone to try to haggle with me just because im tired of having an unused item hanging in my closet.

>>9829933
Asking for 20% off is pretty rude, too.

>>9829985
Not really, unless you don't have "make me an offer listed". If you don't like it just give a counter offer or don't reply.

Can anyone who owns the regular Cosmic JSK (not the sailor one) please confirm the length for me? On lolibrary it says 82cm but on an old CC listing it says 93cm whereas Tokyo Alice listed it as 88cm.
I'd really appreciate it, thank you so much.

>>9829985
I have stated a percentage mark in my terms of sale of what I wont consider rude and what I will consider rude

>>9829395
Yeah I guess I can see the reasoning on that, I was just a tad disappointed that my new dress was missing things I thought we're standard features. I miss the old study cotton releases.

This makes me curious though, do the chiffon prints hold the color better overtime compared to the cotton?

>>9829395
I had one of AP's recent non-chiffon releases -- Retro Dots to be exact, which I believe is broadcloth -- and that also didn't have a built-in petticoat.

>>9829985
Asking at any less percentage is just wasting the sellers time.
>10% on 100usd is 10usd
Why would you pester someone over less than the cost to ship it?
Why wouldn't you just buy it at that price anyway?
20% is both reasonable and worth the time to ask, and isn't generally a steeper cut than what the seller would make on their own.

Gonna dye my hair in a very light shade of pink pretty soon but I principally wear old school when it comes to lolita (black and white is one of my fave combo) and I was wondering if I was going to be fucked and look like an ita because of it not matching all of my coords or making it look "too pink" when i wear sweet.
Should I just wear a wig?

>>9830106
Black, white, and light pink hair? Sounds like a disaster, personally. It's fine when you have lots of money to upkeep it like your pic attached but most gulls never do. It needs to look silky and smooth instead of frizzy thick dyed hair.

>>9830060
I'm getting about 87 from the top of the strap to the hem. But there's about 5 extra cm of strap, so you can make it longer/shorter by moving the button, I'd think.

>>9830138
Thank you so much anon, you're the best!

>>9830066
Polyester does hold color well and won't fade like cotton, but it's prone to oil stains and isn't a breathable material (because it's really just plastic).

>>9830140
No problem anon, glad to help!

>>9830103
Because money is money and that shit adds up? I hate wasting money on shipping.

>>9830076
To be fair that release cost a bit less than a normal release iirc

>>9830114
Yeah that's what I thought too. Going to go for a wig if I wear a black and white combo. I wear sweet mainly though so it'll probably be alright for most coords.
>tfw hair is ressembling a rhapsody style wig and will never be as smooth and straight as pic related
It's painful honestly. Ah well, it can't be helped.

>>9830161
Your hair is never going to be as smooth or as straight as a wig, especially if it's been bleached light enough to take up pastels.

>>9829264
No never even heard of it

>>9829800
Your prices are too high

>>9829985
It's normal and common

>>9830106
That's a lacefront wig, anon

>>9830181
Heh, it's not fried or anything like that and i'm naturally light to begin with. I take good care of it too but yeah i just got naturally wavy and frizzy hair

>>9830154
Then ask for free shipping. That other anon was saying asking for that is 'too much' and 'rude'

Anyone else order Teur et Ruban? I've seen AtPie posting pics on their insta but no shipping email yet :/

>>9829769
I feel the same. I'm asking politely and waiting weeks and weeks, too. I'm a new user so I need the feedback but I guess the people I'm buying from are kind of flighty.

>>9829913
It should be in stock in early April, if no one posts a review I'll post one of mine.

>>9830114
Not really? If anything, a pop of color against black and white can add an interesting, personal flare to the coord, assuming anon's hair is well kept and styled nicely.

>>9829769
This happened to me a few times, and it is very annoying.

>>9830441
Thanks, anon! I really appreciate it!

Hey Americans - did USPS change their international mailing offerings? A couple years ago I remember being able to mail a JSK in a padded envelope as registered mail but now it seems like that's not an option anymore, they just have priority flat rates now? (Which isn't like, entirely a problem but I'm just trying to figuring out if I'm doing something wrong because I don't want to calculate the wrong shipping price for a buyer)

>>9830601
They have first class international, check PayPal shipping for all the options.

>>9830610
Okay that's what I thought, am I just being an idiot then? I was checking the shipping calculator on their website and it wasn't showing me that option.

>>9830612
I think the website is just hard to navigate. It's easier to just go to the post office and tell them what you want or to ship through PayPal if you can print.

>>9830616
Yeah I checked on paypal just now and it seems to show me the first class rate. Thanks anon!

Is there a USA shopping service that will mark packages down/mark as gifts?
I want to buy Lily of the Valley's mushroom dress but recently customs have been hitting all my packages from the USA
>im located in canada

>>9830696
If you want anon, I can buy and ship it for you. Just shoot me an email.

>>9828698
>>9828712
Atlanta com is mostly nice, just avoid AB or she'll suck you into some awful event planning. It used to be more active but it looks like only a few people plan meets nowadays despite there being a lot of members.

I think it may have also gone a little NYC, with friends planning more tiny get togethers than meets

What are some brands that you didn't expect to still be in business? For example Princess Doll and Funny Fairy. They've been around for ages but were never very well known in the West, whereas more well-known brands like Putumayo and Heart E are dead. I took a break from lolita for a few years and it feels odd to come back to this.

Where can I get cheap yet decent white lace topped OTKs?

>>9831270
Lolitabutiken

If the lolita general is always going to be this dead I also want to join the discord

>>9831017
Marble and Visible

>>9831309
If you're in EU

>>9831346
To lurk more? I hope you've actually been contributing to the thread.

>>9831270
You can always buy some torchon lace or whatever you want and sew some lace sock toppers. they're super easy to make and you can find all sorts of tutorials for it. Plus, that way you can use them with any pair of socks. I have lace topped meta and baby socks and desu I can buy higher quality socks for cheaper and make my own toppers. It's hard to find good quality cheap lace topped socks. I'd recommend just buying brand if you don't want to make your own sock toppers. I have found quite a few new pairs on LM, you just have to wait a while.

anyone own any ap rings? i kinda want to buy one cause they r cheap atm

>>9831608
I own a lot, they are great. I love tacky plastic jewelry so much. they also look much better irl than in photos. You can really see the difference in quality between ap and cheap kids plastic jewellery, and the designs are all adorable. So I'd say they are super worth it! My only problem is that the ones on a plastic band are all the same size, which only fits my 2 ring fingers super well, and I often want to wear more than 2 at once.

>>9831608
I own a lot, they're worth it imo. especially if you get them secondhand for like $15-25.

>>9831696
Yeah, I don't understand why people say AP jewelry is cheap like Claire's.

>>9831696
Agreed, I love plastic sweet brand jewelry. Just wish there were more of the ones like baby makes with the adjustable metal bases. That way you can wear them on more than just the ring finger

>>9831198
I just need baby to re-release hawase doll now, but I can die pretty damn happy with Love Airmail in navy as it stands.

>>9831601
I have, what a negative assumption to make about a stranger

>Saw an absolutely adorable Asian girl in a beautiful pink/white coord in the middle of suburban Sydney
>Stare the entire time as I'm driving past to make sure it's real and not a hallucination

S-she was so cute.

Is anyone having problems with the AP Japan website? In chrome and other browsers I get alarms of insecurity. If you browse the website sometimes appears a system.angelicpretty-onlineshop.com
Is AP being hacked?
Or their website is just plain stupid

Sweetie Violet Rerelease!!

http://www.angelicpretty.com/newarrival/sweetie_violet2018/index_.htm

Sweetie Violet Rerelease!!

http://www.angelicpretty.com/newarrival/sweetie_violet2018/index_.htm

>>9831903
Holy shit

>>9831903
Skirts

>>9831696
RESIN NOT PLASTIC

new thread >>9831931