/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I like dancing in jfash, especially lolita, because it makes me feel cute. I love Paida’s aesthetic, too, it’s very uchuu-kei and adorable. But as long as people color coordinate and at least dress up a little, I’m good with whatever. Just don’t wear crappy wigs.

Not much to contribute as I don't give a rats ass about net idols, but I have net Paida at a few cons in Texas. Super sweet girl and genuinely nice.

Yakko (of Q'ulle, formerly Danceroid) uploaded a behind the scenes type video of her and Ikura (also from Q'ulle in case anyone lives under a rock) filming ニア.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65d3tIL__fY

There's a lot that they do that a lot of newer or less experienced odottemita or net-idols don't even bother with. Things like:
>filming a whole practice shot for lighting, background, and to make sure you're centered
>RE-WATCHING those shots so you can actually see what you look like on camera
>practicing interactions with your partner like hand holding, hugging, etc
>make sure your outfit(s) match well with the song and area
I'm not sure who it was, I think it was Wata(?), but she said she would film herself at home practicing whatever dance she was working on in a few different outfits to see what those clothes look like on camera, make sure they're not distracting, and move well with the choreography.

Also don't let your frustrations show. Everyone messes up, even these girls who have been dancing for a while. Keep trying and if you feel like you really can't get a good shot, there's no shame in packing up and practicing more at home. These are just small little things but they can improve the quality of a dance by margins.

Here's the finished product so you can see how much there hard work paid off!
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPk0Qj6pSQk

And here's some other favorites from both of them where you can also see the detail to editing, emotion, and location:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC5YfPFfau4
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8SsiC-vMs0

>>9809834
Definitely going to keep some of that stuff in mind for future filmings, a dance shot for my group was supposed to come out last summer but was ruined by really bad lighting

Wow... wow.....
This is so.. special.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzl-eee7yAc

>>9810564
Wow!

>>9810564
>that weird background that makes me dizzy
>weak voices
>weird lyrics
>wow

This is supposed to be cute? Because is fucking creepy.

I just don't understand how there are so many of these groups and none of them see how terrible they are.

I just don't get the whole pretending to be idols when all you do is buy cosplay from taobao and record badly choreographed dance and call it a day.

And I don't even want to touch the ones who attempt to sing.

And then they all want to try and be guests a conventions like they bring something if value?

Learn to dance, learn to sing, work your ass off a few years then maybe try to impress someone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeP2TGJpKAA

Lot of cuts but Chika nailed the backflip.

>>9810764
That was actually really good. I can excuse the cuts since most of them followed the anime. I hope i can see them perform this live one day.

>>9810764
it was good at the begining but i feel it escalated quickly; their synch started to be really off early

>>9810651

This comes up in every thread. The answer is that most of them are just doing it for fun, as a sort of hobby-you-take-seriously. It doesn't make them immune from criticism, but it's not the same as trying to be a real idol. At least to me, part of what I enjoy about this community is seeing people start off with awkward performances and work their way up. It's inspiring to see them making progress.

>>9809610
So this is kinda the only place i can ever discuss idol anime without it turning into creepy waifu discussions

So has anyone see WUG Next Chapter and what was your opinion? Are they going to do more?

I enjoyed it a lot. It lost some of the darker feel from the first season though and the animation is prettier which also took away from the fact the girls are meant to be more average away but i still liked it. Run, Girls, Run was cute but i didn't think the show necessarily needed them at all.


I also watched Perfect Blue finally after putting it off forever and holy shit. Wish I'd known the guy who did paranoia agent and paprika did this one because it would've prepared me for some of what I saw. Enjoyed it a lot but man some of it was hard hitting. Did she really get raped or was it just a really intense scene she had to act through because they kind of blurred that line a bit?


I still want to be an idol but my birthday is coming up and i'll be 27...probably too old but maybe i'm still cute enough desu?

>>9810979
I enjoyed the new WUG a lot. I agree on Run, Girls, Run.. wasn’t a huge fan of them.

Glad you enjoyed Perfect Blue! It’s really horrifying but such a good watch.

Since we’re talking about WUG, here’s a bad dance cover.
https://youtu.be/XDxnEYMVrhs

>>9811005
what's bad about it exactly? it's isn't the greatest I've seen but it isn't worth the hate.

>>9811005
I think the cover's okay it's just kinda bad because even if you didn't know what WUG was this is so obviously a song that needs more dancers and it's always kinda sad to see people doing these dances alone imo (which is why I won't do one hahahaha)

>>9811008
I just don’t think it looks appropriate as a solo dance. Also, her outfit makes her look frumpy, but based on her other videos she’s just.. not cute as it is.

>>9810979

You know, a less serious/horror version of Perfect Blue would have been a cool idea. An idol transitioning to a professional musician life in a RomCom plot would be interesting to see. But the Japanese Audience really isn't into hard hitting stuff in terms of idols which felt like why WUG toned down the darker stuff

>>9810764
I was kinda let down by the "backflip" desu after all the hyping up of it they did (plus I thought their Chika had cheerleading experience? Am I thinking of another group?) Certainly the best one I've seen thus far but I was expecting a full on handspring and it was just a walkover

>>9810651
>>9810859
maybe this is unrealistic but for once I want to see an idol group that have any fundamental performance skills.

None of these "net idols" look like they have ever taken a singing, dancing, or theatre class.

You don't need to be pro kpop level to have even a small shred of performing arts talent.

When I was involved in performing arts there was talent everywhere, but all the people were boring. When I'm with interesting people who are into idol shit... none of them are talented? Where's the middle?

>>9811161

Money. Pure and simple, you cant do a net idol act justice without an income to fibance your hobby. Unless your parents are rich or you have an above minwage job it is difficult to be a good netidol act

>>9811161
That’s why I’m hoping Citresse isn’t dead, since the girls (at least one of them? Too lazy to check) have stated they have previous musical theatre experience.

Does anyone else have groups in their comm like this that feel personally attacked by all the love live groups that are around? I just find it funny because the group in question I would say is just as equal if not slightly worse in comparison to the top 4 groups in the area. Just because you don't dance love live, unfortunately that doesn't mean you are instantly more polished, have more variety, and do more complex things.

They seem to be a bit out of touch as well since almost half of our local groups do things over than love live (boy idol stuff, idolmaster, akb etc) so they definitely aren't the sole non-love live group in a sea of muse and aquors.

>>9811606
Wait, what was the original post? Did they comment this on another group’s post? Unless someone was asking specifically for recommendations this is in poor taste and reflects badly on the group they’re promoting

It was a post in a local group;

"Hi!!! I'm 17 and looking for some anime watching, cosplay, or dancing buddies!! If you're interested pls comment and we can be friends I'd love to meet more of you guys!"

And somebody commented linking to their love live group mentioning that they were scouting for new members if OP was interested in dancing... then a couple comments later was the comment in the screenshot.

I thought the same thing, if I was OP and I saw that comment, I would think, "well there's a group I wouldn't want to join they don't seem very inclusive or friendly if they're creating competition when there doesn't need to be any."

>>9811639
meant to reply to >>9811617

>>9811158
you're thinking of sunrise

>>9811606
hello, apparently we're in the same comm

yeah, idk what it is with this group, i haven't seen anything new from them in a while. there are other groups that do lovelive AND non-lovelive. and the im@s and boy groups do well too. maybe they're desperate for new members idk.

It was funny when i saw paida attending utsa the other day

I'm really a fan of super shiny sparkly costumes, specially for stage performances, what does everyone think? I wish more groups did them

>>9812558
I LOVE them!! I’m in the same boat as you, I really do wish more groups would wear/make them. That’s why I liked Sunrise’s Koi Ni Naritai Aquarium, the costumes were so pretty!

>>9812558
You're not a real idol group imo if you either
>a
Only wear cosplay
>b
Don't wear special costumes LIKE A DAMN IDOL

>>9811146
Yeah, however there is a little more push for anime to be acknowledged in the NA ( bad phrasing, short example: anime airing in the US first then in Japan) so maybe one day we'll get what i'm really craving: A series on the realistic side of idols while still showing why it's okay to like them or want to be one since there is something special about it.

Plus the ones that acknowledge that most fans are men give it a more realistic push too on it's own.

I get why it's rare but it doesn't mean I can't still hold out hope for more like it.

>>9809610
>What sort of outfits do you like to see groups and solo idols use? Casual and fashionable clothes, or frills and poofy idol skirts? What are your thoughts on "member color" outfits?

Depend on what style of music they primarily perform. For example, these outfits are cute but are more what I would expect to see for an upbeat cutesy pop song cover, not a slow mature romantic one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_AIRpoHVcY

I love Fairies' outfits for this performance, but I couldn't imagine covers of songs like START:DASH!! or Let's Aikatsu! in similar attire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44sPh9o5t9g

I like casual outfits when it's not just everyone in the group wearing the same basic t-shirt and skirt or plain dress, and if they're well coordinated among all the group members.

To me, unique member colors for outfits only seem necessary when there's enough group members that they're hard to tell apart, and/or the members having individual personalities is a significant aspect of the group.

why do fat girls even try to be net-idols?

>>9812558
I adore them, I’m a big fan of Wasuta’s holographic looking outfit they wore recently.

As far as net idol groups go, I like the outfits at 11:30
https://youtu.be/LaiBwQgWMtE

>>9811606
I believe we're also from the same comm.. Curious what group this was, can't find the comment now.

>>9812580
So.. you want Wake Up Girls? Your craving is Wake Up Girls.

>>9812583
Good god that first video.... Why is the purple chick wearing that, it's so horrendously unflattering.

>>9812580
Is this b8? You literally just described Wake Up Girls.

>>9812558
Stage costumes should be super sparkly and floofy- It's the same principle as theatre costumes, you need to be colourful and bright to make you stand out on stage for the audience.
In terms of just videos/photoshoots I don't think the costumes need to be too OTT, but I don't mind if they are. Idol costumes should be fun.

It also depends on the theme/style of your group though- I wouldn't expect something like pic related on a more "mature' group.

>>9810764
I liked it! One of the rare good ones

https://youtu.be/4Dsr6NBho4Y

fresh cringe

>>9813615
The Chika and Ruby are the only good ones, wow

>>9813615
How did they mess up syncing the music to the dance this badly?? Their video is like three beats ahead of the music...

How do you politely push for a group to be better from the inside? Like, I desperately just want to do everyone in my groups makeup and hair it would help so much, but don't know how to insist on it without sounding like a jerk.

Has anyone checked this out? https://www.melancholiaah.club/ it's velveetaah if anyone remembers her dance covers. She's an idol now I guess?

>>9813840
She is (was?) a member of SHEawase. She's been around for awhile technicality and has been on multiple CDs

>>9813823
Get excited, and say something like “hey guys, I found a really cute makeup tutorial and would love to see how it looks on all of you!” or “Do you guys want me to be your makeup artist for the next video?”

This girl's channel is a goldmine of cringe. Her dancing is as sloppy as her makeup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkfJWFrBHNU

Like how does one manage to fuck up Koisuru Fortune Cookie this badly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mq91WSMzRk

>>9806663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6RQaynMkG0
Well, this is one of One Wish's better performances in terms of synchronization and energy but half of the girls still have this look on their face like they'd rather be anywhere but here.

>>9815268
the dancing in the first two is hilariously tragic but I'm stuck on the creepy ass close-up shots of her face that take up the first and last like 15 seconds of the videos, like you know you can edit and trim those parts out, right?

>>9815272
There's a cut in the second video before the actual dancing starts. She left the creepy up close shots in on purpose, she probably thinks they're cute.

Anyone know any cute UK Idols? I wanna support some locals lol

>>9816004
There are none. We're all ugly & shit.

>>9815268
I thought KFC was unfuckupable, my god

>>9816013

Truth.

>>9816004
all UK idols ("idols" and idol cosplayers) i've seen are really ugly and can't dance. would love to see some cute ones too

What is everyone’s opinion on idol costumes being inspired/based off existing costumes? Not like “I like this costumes I’ll just change the color” but making alterations so the concept is the same but they don’t look identical. I saw this one Love Live costume that was used in one of the non-main duo sets and had started thinking of ways to alternate into a cuter costume but this question popped into my head (as well as if anyone would claim copy).

>>9816634
As long as they’re not being used for original songs, I see no problem with that!

>>9816605
second this. the UK idol scene is utter shit. no one can dance (especially not in time) most of the cosplays look awful and the majority are bitches irl

>>9816013
>>9816605

It's not that they're all ugly it's just that some of themn dont know how to dance or put a little show for their followers.

and anyways what would you guys call cute "idols"/idol cosplayers?

>>9816721

I kinda agree, they sometimes talk shit about other idol cosplayers and idols... but I'm sure some groups in general does this

>>9816724
pretty much anyone who dont have excessive body fat or fetal alcohol syndrome could be a cute idol, and that's asking a lot

i feel a little silly asking this, but does anyone have advice for looking for a composer for a net idol group? my group and i have everything else covered - lyrics, costumes, choreography, but none of us are particularly talented with garageband. it just feels daunting when i don't even know where to start?

>>9816831
Mondai Society has made some really good stuff, and they’re really decently priced! Don’t know if commissions are open or not, though. Or, you can join up with SSR Society and get some help there (which is what I’m doing, you deal with a ton of weebs but it’s pretty good and well organized overall).

>>9816634
I really love them for dancing songs of the group that is inspired from, but if they do original songs with them I'm a bit iffy

>>9816637
>>9816896
Just to be clear, I’m not talking about u’s or Aqours. I mean the side school girls like Shion, Seiran, etc. which don’t have their own songs. I also do mean both cosplay and original but not lifting the design straight off and changing one or two minor things. For example (not one I thought of using but I saw it before), this card but having a similar outfit based on the design but still not the same (things like structure, color, patterns, etc. being changed).

>>9816895
Do you have any links for SSR Society?

>>9816954
Then I don't think no one will even notice? And to be fair the mayority of idol costumes have a ton of similarities like sailor collars, tartan fabric, pleated skirts, neck ties, berets, etc

>>9816963
@ssr.agency on Instagram, they have a linktree you can follow there! Just prepare yourself for some weeb roleplayers doing the whole “IM SO GAY OwO XD” thing

>>9816954
The fashion world in general is built on taking inspiration from other designers. I don’t see any problems with what you’re proposing at all!

>>9817116
As someone who has been in SSR, the majority of them are like that. I immidetly left after seeing they allowed roleplayers. There really not worth looking into considering they value roleplayers and actual talented idols the same.

Please look into Mondai Society. She does amazing work and is looking for people to be under her lable.

Here is her new website: https://mondaisociety.wixsite.com/agency

>>9817145
Thanks for this link. I’ve been trying to figure out the right word for the domain because the tk site is horrible on mobile.

Looks like another shitty muse group popped up in the Vancouver area

>>9817145
Can you give me some tips on how to leave gracefully? I actually want to leave now, and don’t know how to tell my admin, since I just got in like three or four days ago. After going through a whole “create your persona” type deal, I was like “yeah, no. Not the kind of thing I want to be involved in.”

>>9817628
NTAYRT. To be fair, a lot of real idols do have personas of some sort but knowing the context, I’m almost certain they meant something like an OC didnt they? Honestly there is no way to leave gracefully when you just joined. The best thing to say is to say sorry and that you don’t want to be apart of it anymore becuase it’s not what you thought it would be and it’s not something you want to be apart of.

>>9817746
Majority of idols don't really have a "persona". There are a few like Pikarin and Hanako-san but thats like their whole gimmick. Theres a difference between a persona and a gimmick. Idols are suppose to be the average girl next door type of person so it wouldn't make sense to slap a persona ontop when its meant to be natural and real.

>>9817892
But that’s exactly what they do? You’re right that a gimmick and persona are different but the literal definition of a persona:

>the aspect of someone's character that is presented to or perceived by others

A persona can be a gimmick and many idols have or had them that are in non-alternative idol culture. Momoko from Berryz had Momochi but dropped it. Risako from Berryz and Haruka Shimazaki from AKB48 have the “serious”/“rbf” kind of persona. There are idols who have a sexy or shy or boyish persona by are totally different off stage than on. Even the “girl next door” type is a persona. The difference is they learn how to make it natural and some do it really well (Sayumi from Momusu) and some don’t (Masaki from Momusu). Like I said though, in the context of the situation I understand what you mean. Average girl next door doesn’t always mean cute sweet innocent girl although it can be that.

>>9817746
Love live recolor mary su OC = / = persona

I agree with >>9817892 that personas and gimmicks are different. The while thing with idol personas is that most of them are done jokingly (like the things >>9818054 said) and emphasize they are also a normal person behind their persona joke. Persona's are also not required to be an idol. Theres lots of idols who already are bitchy or serious and thats how they truly are. I don't think its right to pressure people to give off a persona while being an idol.

However, recolored love live cards with a uwu unique tragic back story is not a idol persona. Its a roleplay character. Idol roleplayers like that should not be valued the same as actual idols with presentable talent like >>9817628 said. SSR and other instagram idol agencies should not be taken serious if they value them the same.

>>9817628
Omg I'm so glad I'm not the only one who is tired of SSR. They lied to me initially about what it would be so I'm a bit angry about that. Also I thought it had just died and my problem was solved but suddenly they're back and still as bad as ever if not worse. They don't even offer decent constructive criticism and it's just a general "oh you're great" when I want to know what specifically was great, what wasn't great, etc.

>>9817746
I think what I’m going to do is stay until I find out if I can be under Mondai Society’s management. Then I’ll apologize and say a better opportunity came along.

>>9818083
I already have fan girls from my group, so a lot of them are just going “aaaaaa I love you/ Stan *insert group name here*”. It’s super annoying. Since I’m a “real life idol” according to them, I don’t think I’ll get any feedback that isn’t “OMG YOURE AMAZING!!”

>>9818099
Oh, my group did discuss how Stellure is overrated and they aren’t strong singers/Mimi is generally not good. So it hasn’t been all bad.

>>9818099
I hate it when k-pop fans use their lingo with j-pop idols. Its the cringiest thing ever.

>>9818104
The ironic thing is that it’s not even kpop lingo.

>>9818070
Yeah I’m both >>9817746 and >>9818054. I never said they were required but rather they exist and aren’t solely from Instagram roleplayer culture. And from what I’ve seen, the whole recolor is associated with a persona that they’re playing. It’s dumb but they tend to use it interchangeably (again this is from what I’ve personally seen). But I also agree that they shouldn’t be taken in the same regard as Mondai Society or really any group/person actually trying to be idols.

>>9818197
I'm >>9818104 i didn't realized i replied to you i'm sorry lol

I hate when I’m trying to find idol uniforms for design inspiration on google and all I get is a million love love pictures. Like, no, Jesus Christ.

>>9818222
AKB48 has their own costume book for sale. Ive seen some scans from it floating around too so try searching AKB48 costumes or costume book?

Any idol songs about chocolate that ISNT Gimme Chocolate? Lol

>>9818241
I’m assuming Chocolate Disco is a no go too?

>>9818241
Chocolate Kiss - AKB48
Bitter & Sweet - AKB48
Kuchi Utsui no Chocolate - French Kiss
Chocolate Damashii - Matsuura Aya

Not an idol song but there is also Hello Mr. Chocolate by Taa-P.

>>9818251
unsure if idol but there's chococo by gugudan too

>>9818272
Don’t forget SKE’s Choco no dorei

>>9818332
It’s kpop but legit one of my fave songs ever I love it so much, was already planning on that one haha

>>9818376
>>9818272
Thank you sm !!

>>9818083
I tried applying to be an admin/mod before, gave them my full idol/dance/performance history and experience (which not to brag, but is over 18 years long with both idol and competitive dance experience) and they were like “oh we aren’t actually needing anyone else right now! Sorry!!” Even though they were advertising on their insta that applications were still open. I guess I didn’t give off the love live knock off role play OC vibe like they wanted.

It just really sucks because I wanted to be able to give advice and critiques that are more than just “it’s great” like you said. I know people out there are looking for that kind of thing, it’s just hard to give without some sort of name/organization backing you.

>>9818390
I thought about applying as an admin too, desu, but I didn't because I didn't want to have to help out roleplayers. :/

Luna's new design is pretty cute

>>9818470

Thank fuck for that

>>9818470

I love it. I mean I still wish they'd all go with natural hair but if they insist on using bright wigs, this is definitely an improvement over the choco mint. Although I hope the green they use for her member uniforms is more minty green than warm green or it'll clash.

>>9818470
Oh, thank the Lord in heaven. This is so much better. (Although she looks a bit like Ruby to me)

>>9818840
She took a vote in her story about the new wig/design for that exact reason. She was super worried about being seen as a Ruby clone

Speaking of Stellure, they're going to have a recording session tomorrow. I'm assuming vocal only, since they said they wanted to start releasing more songs and only making PVs for some of them.

>>9818840
>>9818848
I was bothered that the first character to even come to mind was Ruby because frankly, it doesn’t even remind me of Ruby and twin tails like that aren’t exactly uncommon. I guess I can see why because Love Live and all that but... Nico...

>>9818865
A few? I wonder if they’ll release like a typical J-Pop single (2+ songs) or just stock pile vocals to mixing and later release.

>>9818901
Ruby is her fave LL character and she’s been posting about her a lot recently so I guess that’s where the concern came from?

>>9818865
Quantity I’ve quality again?

>>9818848
I don't think she has to worry about that. They're both small and sweet characters, but Ruby's got the "super shy loli moeblob" persona and Luna is more of a laid back tomboy with a quiet but bawdy sense of humor.

Stupid question, but is there a way to make solo dances not to look awkward? I'd like to get into dancing again but I live in the middle of nowhere to have a partner.

>>9819012
As in making a group dance solo or just performing a solo in general

>>9819043
A bit of both. I like some love live dances, but when someone solos one they end up looking awkward. General tips are also welcome.

>>9819012
Try to find dances that were made for solo like vocaloid dances. If you don’t like the voices there are loads of good vocal colors.

>>9819062
*covers
Like reol, jubyphonic, other utaite

>>9819051
So for me, it’s whichever part is more interesting. If the background dancing is more interesting to watch than the center; DO THE BACKGROUND PART. And vice versa, is everyone is sitting in a position waiting for their next part and the soloist is doing something interesting; DO THAT PART. Don’t focus on learning a persons part, look at the parts of the dance individually. It’s also a good idea to dance something you are confident in, if you’re hesitant or unpracticed; your video will suffer a lot

Aquaria has just released a new PV. They've really improved, compared to their first one.

facebook com/Aquariacos/videos/1810125942623025/

https://youtu.be/hG9pgcrGAhw?t=1m55s

she's...actually good?? crappy speaking audio in the beginning aside.

>>9819575
She seems shy but her dancing is really good. If Natalie lets her into the group, I feel like she’d be the most popular out of current members + her. She has a good dance energy and I looked at her channel. She’s a pretty versatile singer. I feel her talent will be wasted in flusay.

>>9819579
she has potential, she'll definitely be wasted in flusay. If she does decide to stay though, maybe she could help the others learn how to hold a tune.

She is really cute and I like her energy so I do feel like she'd be the only good member in Flusay

>>9819575
>>9819579
>>9819676
>>9819763
Be careful about speaking high of her because natalie will feel threatened and won't accept her. Natalie doesn't like people who are better than her.

>>9819786
it's probably for the best then

>>9819786
Then why does flusay even exist.

>>9820013
i mean.... natalie is probably the best they have atm upon yaima leaving.

>>9819062
>>9819092
Thank you for the tips

>>9819327
I think they did pretty good. Cool that they had the full group but why didnt they choose another dance to record with all 9??

>>9820444
It’s literally in the description of the video (on Facebook and YouTube).

>>9820234
Bear in mind she’s only an auditionee though

>>9820552
Her audition number is 4 though. Is it fair to say there are other auditionees that just havent sent in their video?

>>9820734
Just kidding i read that wrong sorry anon

>>9810564

>literally no rhyming scheme
>singing out of time with the song
>singing out of time with each other
>literally one beat the whole way through with no variation
>why are they whispering
>what the hell is that bridge
>thats not how harmonies work
>wow

who listened to this mix and though "yeah that sounds fine"

Some fresh cringe https://youtu.be/zijwMCM9LAk

>>9820979
This is actually good and I give her props for filmimg in an actual aquarium. She could work on not over-doing her movements. Your vendetta is showing anon

>>9820979
oof

>>9820979
why do people keep posting actually good stuff saying it's cringe-

>>9820993

If I was doing a final round of a dance contest I wouldn't pick this dance, or at least I wouldn't just use one part because it's too boring otherwise.

>>9821086

It's not quite at cringe level, it's just mediocre really.

>>9821088
I joined the same dance contest on Instagram, the host of the dance contest specifically asked for them not to combine parts and it was Love Live only. All Love Live dances are boring anyway so go figure

>>9821088
Sounds like you got picked over her in this contest and salty about it

>>9820734
Idk, I’m just saying people are already talking as if she’s already in the group.
Remember that Natalie doesn’t like people being better than her. Given that people in here are saying she’s more talented than her, I assume if she sees it she won’t pick her out of spite or jealousy.
I’m not saying what everyone’s saying isn’t tru, I’m just saying be aware that she’s not actually in the group yet.

>>9821145
What I’m curious about is why is Natalie posting their auditions? Normally you don’t see this kind of stuff unless later on you’ll be voting. To me, it seems more like “this person is closer to joining than someone else.”

>>9821112

No I just didn't know about the conditions of the contest which anon above you has specified. Which probably means all of the entries ended up being mediocre by default if they are forced into doing one role. About 90% is just filler movement because of this choice.

>>9820979
just seems like she's too energetic and it makes the dance look a bit sloppy, but she is FAR from cringy...she's having fun. She's got a great costume. She's cute. Her moves just need some sharpening and cleaning up, but she has the majority down.

I do, however, have a thing about entering "PVs" in DANCE contests...but I know nothing about this one and I know some do have PV challenges.

https://youtu.be/paf_5a0LOUg

Not necessarily net idol or cringe, but Seishun Youth Academy has their debut.

>>9821207
imo if the one that did the contest dont sprecificly ask for PVs you shouldnt enter one.
I often saw pv winning because theyre more ''wow'' than a regular entry in term of aesthetic but it should be based on dance skills alone I think

>>9821332
I believe the theme was actually PV style... look up @jpopdubber on Instagram for all the rules... although I don't think she is a good enough dancer to be hosting her own dance comp

https://youtu.be/Eer2pWKHeK0

Don’t know if this has been posted before but oh my word, this is terrible. I feel sorry for everyone involved.

>>9821318
Pretty dang cute!

>>9821415
Oh my God

>>9821415

Is this what apoptosis sounds like

Did they just play it over discord voice chat and sing along and call it a day? I feel like thats what they did

>>9821794
Exact thing what I though about it. They sound like they're singing this for the first time since they can't get through the fast parts.

>>9821415
My poor ears why would anyone think this is good enough to post

>>9821318
I really liked the Message song but, what was that kiss at 18:44?? Is that a typical thing in idols songs to have?

>>9821944
Lol no. But fan service. It’s a super rare occurance. I’ve only ever seen straight up lesbian imagery from like 3 or 4 groups and they’re pretty much all small time except one. And that’s just in music video b-rolls, not the actual choreography.

Noob question, why do odottemita usually have a plushie in the background of their videos?

>>9822126

Usually because they're cute, but sometimes you'll get them in front to serve as markers for camera angles. Dancing wherever and however is one thing, but if you're doing it in front of the camera it needs to be within shot.

>>9821913
Not only that, they’re getting complimented for it!! With groups like these, it’s easy to see why the most famous ones are so mediocre.

>>9822308

Wait what? How can anyone listen to that and think its ok?

Are there people out there that genuinely listen to covers like these and think 'yea, what a banger, putting that on the ipod'

>>9822405
They’ve got comments on Insta saying “OMG LITERALLY PRECIOUS” and stuff like that, it’s crazy. Weebs latch onto any group that can sing at minimum terrible karaoke.

>>9821944
it's not typical but it does happen, like in the beginning of this song. Other times i've seen it were playful moments in concerts, so fanservice pretty much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzhK2S5b-lo

Outfits are pretty
Could have been more in sync

https://youtu.be/HOiJ9elG58M

Lol this was the same group that gave the texas idol fest organizer shit for not letting them perform at the festival

https://youtu.be/gIXZcnbdmsE

>>9822862
Are... are Umi and Hanayo not wearing shoes? What is even going on here

>>9822862

>why are two of them not in costume
>why are two of them not wearing shoes

Also has anyone noticed how the bigger girls in dance groups don't smile/look like they're enjoying themselves? At least as much as actual idols try to.

They seem to always be either avoiding eye contact, looking like they want to die, or they look disproportionately smug.

New Stellure song announced- Says they just recorded vocals, but Vega isn't in it because she was sick.

Good to see Mimi taking a step back from the centre here.

>>9823068
Is it just me, or is the art worse than before?

>>9823068
>>9823099
I'm actually wondering if Mimi drew it, it doesn't entirely look like her style, the colours are a lot muddier. But then again, maybe she's more used to drawing girls standing against white/otherwise uniform background and the whole composition for this made her get lazy with other parts.

I'm also noticing Titania actually looks overweight in this, when her introduction picture only gave her slightly thick calves.

>>9822728

>When Kanata literally cannot bend over for her life.

This dance annoys me in particular because it's so easy and yet nobody can be bothered to polish it to 100%

>>9822728

Sweet baby Jesus I've just noticed Chieri's wig in the ponytail. It looks like it's been crimped and the 90's want it back.

>>9823068
>>9823103

Mimi just can't draw more complex poses in perspective, maybe she was also using less references, that's all.

>>9823068
It’d be nice if the costumes had some kind of light mechanism like the art suggests but I don’t think it will. Maybe super shiny fabric?

>>9823163

I foresee EL wire in our future.

>>9823068
Mimi forget how to draw or she's just lazy?

Look who just won’t give up.

>>9823306

>watch her bloom into a rose on her idol journey.


Oh barf

>>9823340
Rose? more like a dandelion weed.

>>9823068
Why tf couldn’t they wait to record so Vega could be in it? What’s the point of making a 9 person group if all 9 are never together wtf

>>9823358
I understand what you’re saying but from the looks of her Instagram, Vega’s been sick for the past few days. She also posted about having 2 autoimmune diseases so that could be a contributing factor. It’s still kind of sad that the only official full group song was right before the new members joined. Hopefully Unwritten contains all the members.

>>9823306
Have you seen her awful Japanese on her Insta? She uses exclusively hiragana, and then follows every word with the romaji. It’s terrible.

>>9823358
i feel so bad for her, she doesnt even get to be in the art

>>9823504
If she’s not in the song, why would she be in the art?

>>9823491
Oh my god. That is horrifying.

>>9822862
why would they even do sub unit songs with people missing, at least have a different girl fill in.

>>9809610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3ZFPfnJH5Y&ab_channel=SoleilStars

can they please wear shoes, especially in a public space

>>9823844
They...they all have shoes. Even the Ruby, you can see the buckles in some of the traveling shots. Props to some of them for wearing jazz shoes, but please rescue Mari from her wig and Kanan from that skirt.

>>9823861
Mari is just in socks..

>>9823864
She is, whoops. I was too focused on Ruby and Chika to notice her!

>>9823872
I agree with the wig and skirt situation though, Maris moves are a little awkward and Ruby is lost...

>>9823844
Why are they dressed like that? Chika looks like she's wearing boxing gloves. And why is Dia in work pants???

>>9823913
I feel like out of everyone in Aquors, Dia would be the one to show up in work pants, haha. It seems like the leader just told the girls to wear any black bottoms of their choice.

>>9823913
that chika looks like she just took a rin wig and hoped no one would notice.
also the random zooms on the side are weird as hell, especially when it zooms on yoshiko and hanamaru, who both look like they want to go home the whole time.

>>9823844
why does you look like shes ready to burst into tears at any moment

>>9823844

God that was awkward and cringy.

Need something to cleanse the palate.

https://youtu.be/fdX2_Na6Qhk

You have hit peak odottemita when you can do an impersonation of the seiyuu as someone mention how the Kanan resembles Nanaka Suwa

Props to You for keeping her timing more or less spot on. If the centre falls apart usually the others do to. The only thing she needs to work on is her facial expressions, it looks like she's over thinking it.

There is no saving Chika however.

>>9824370
maybe they couldnt find a kanan so they just hired suwawa herself

>>9824370
why can't all LL groups be at least a fraction of this quality

I want to make a live version of an idol outfit but the confetti dot fabric that I see in most local fabric stores are shit or the good stuff costs an arm and a leg.
I know a few gulls here have either made or are planning to make some and use sparkly fabrics to do it from taobao, where do you go for them in particular or what sort of search terms do you use to find them?

>>9824370
I love the guy screaming what sounds like “Arisa” at the end

>>9824370
I'd love to see more (good) natural-hair LL "cosplays". They definitely resemble the seiyuu here more than the anime characters, and it's refreshing.

>>9824449

That would require effort for some of the more cringy cases like >>9823844
And >>9822862. Asian group tend to avoid that because they have way more invested to the hobby than some of the LL wannabe groups

>>9824480

Natural hair for a cover group that emulate seiyuus as seen here is also a litmus test to see how well you take care of your looks.Plus all the hair dye only thins out the hair and and they really do need the wigs.

A group that can emulate the seiyuu hairstyles shows they can maintain a good physical image.

>>9824449
most don't care about quality and just want to do the most songs in some convention's hallway

>>9823844
The superior LL cosplayers in the front row looking uninterested the whole time really bring it all home.

>>9824480
>>9824493
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the point of a cosplay to resemble the characters and not the people who play them? It may be refreshing but (at least to me) it takes away from an actual cosplay. Sure it’s great to see, but even if people copy the hair styles of the seiyuus, they’ll still get shat on for not wearing wigs.

Also, >>9824493 nothing you said makes any sense to me. Being able to do the seiyuus styles doesn’t test how well you take care of your looks nor that you can maintain a good physical image. It means you know how to style your hair. That hair dye comment doesn’t fit in anywhere either. Is that a dig at people who dye their hair or what?

>>9824307
I mean she isn't bad but the fact she looks like she is going to cry almost worries me. If she had more expression she would stand out (and not because she is centre)

>>9824743
That's kinda why I put "cosplay" in quotes. I guess it depends on how seriously your LL group is weighing the cosplay vs the dance stuff. There are tons of Love Live groups that focus almost entirely on cosplay and honestly? it gets old seeing the same shit. I'm willing to overlook things like not having wigs, or groups that go with plainer clothes and unofficial cosplays/uniforms, if the dances are good. I would rather see Love Live groups nailing the dances than getting their cosplays perfect, unless they specifically market themselves as a cosplay group.

>>9823844
The thin girl looks like a stick next to all those beasts... What if one fell and broke her?

Kayechii (posted last thread, recently began making covers) released a dance cover of Shocking Party.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkpSdEbbmL0

I would like to see her tackle some tougher dances, since the ones she's done so far have been somewhat simple. It's not that she's a boring or bad dancer, but she's doing simple dances. She has a good sense of timing so I think she could handle some more exciting and difficult dances. I like that her lipsyncing is accurate and her facial expressions are good.

>>9824480
maybe some of them dont have dark natural hair like that, like my hair is naturally curly so i know i wont ever be able to pull off that look.

>>9824910
yeah she looks really good and in sync with her dancing but she is doing simple dances that most people should be able to do.

>>9824933
What is a hair straightener and hair spray?

>have personally owned recording/production studio
>think to self "oh net idols might be cool"
>see nothing but cringe and lack of talent
>know that even with my best efforts there is no way anything good could ever be made
>tfw you will never be producer-san

>>9824975
You know, there’s always the chance. The issue with net idol groups (on and off instagram) is that they pretty much never set any kind of standard for themselves. It’s always “haha yeah if we like you you’re in.” Nothing vocally or otherwise is required of them. If you require something of the people who you want in the group, you’ll get talent. You’ll get less people interested but the ones who are will be pretty honest and willing to work.

>>9824940
I don't have that kind of hair.... even with hair straighteners and hair spray my hair will turn back to fizzy very easily....

>>9825152
Then wear a wig?

>>9825152
What are you talking about? Any kind of hair can be styled or just put a wig on it. I have very thick and curly hair that I thought was impossible to style until I learned how to.

Don't be lazy and learn how to style for your hair type. Giving excuses like that won't solve your issue.

>>9825293
That’s their point anon. She’s saying she can’t pull off the ‘natural hair’ seiyuu style and she has to wear a wig because of her hair if she wants to replicate it, thus getting rid of the whole ‘natural hair’ aspect of it lol

>>9825304
Right. I get that, I just don't get why they're trying to make it sound like an argument haha. My original comment was just expressing appreciation of the natural-hair look, I didn't say it was necessary or that everyone should do it. So I don't totally understand why this one anon took it personally and started a discussion about how she'll never be able to do it. If you don't think you can pull off natural hair, then just wear a wig, it's nbd.

>>9825304
>>9825676
I will wear a wig then. Thank you anon for explaining and sorry for making this sound like an argument, I just wanted to say that not everyone can pull off a seiyuu style but i do agree with you, its nice to see some people who can pull it off

>>9825301
I did say that i tried to straighten it but i'm not that desperate to waste a lot of money onto my hair just so i can look like a seiyuu.That's where id rather have the dance moves perfected than the whole look perfected since dancing doesn't cost money (it just cost time)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWSQuD3gSus

>>9824370
cute! but some of them look dead and a lot of their formations are meh. Love the real hair though!

>>9826242
reasons why dress rehearsals are essential
especially if your costume has a lot of pieces

>>9826242

I was honestly expecting her top to fall off at any moment

>>9826242
fuck that is a shame... she looks like she has a lot of energy and is having fun. For sure, dress rehearsals are a must, especially if you are normally just a cosplayer not used to dancing in your costumes.

>>9826242
The expressions and lipsynch are fantastic here though

>>9826242
It's nice seeing more deremas songs being done other than like, Onegai! Cinderella and anything by NewGen, but the choreograph for this song is meant to be really smooth and fluffy/flowy, the amount of sharp shortcuts she made is bothering me

>>9815268
Can someone please gif .38-.45? This shit has me in stitches.

>>9820979
Don't know what all you anons are talking about. This is super cute and it makes me happy. Post more actual cringe if you're gonna call it cringe.

>>9824935
maybe that's all she can physically handle right now.

>>9827056
Maybe! But part of what I enjoy about the net-idol community is seeing people push to improve themselves. She seems like a good dancer, so as time goes on I hope she will challenge herself with more difficult dances even if they're out of her reach right now.

>>9826242
God her friend screaming is infuritating, have some respect for the people around you. You could see the girl next to her at the start looking uncomfortable because of her shrieking. If I was filming a friend I wouldn't want to ruin the recording by screaming into the mic.

Props to the dancer for embracing the crown falling off though. Always good to see people making mistakes work!

>>9826350
>>9826450

The sad thing is she's performed in this outfit before at Manchester, so she's not really learned from past mistakes.

>>9827046
>all you anons
don't know if you can read or not, but the OP is the only one who called it cringe.

https://youtu.be/GTfqLF843dU
This is so super cute ;A;

Just no
https://youtu.be/cL_2-3dQtkM

https://youtu.be/IlxGdzWA3og
This was from a while ago
Kind of nice to watch a decent muse group, seeing as everyone only does Aqours now

>>9827740
the song itself isn't terrible..still screams cringe for other reasons though.

>>9826242
I've actually performed this song as well and it's... kinda hard to watch her knowingly do the wrong moves in place of actually learning the dance. there's a part near the beginning where the girls do a hand movement that looks confusing the first time you see it, but it's genuinely very very easy. she just replaced it with something entirely different instead of at least trying to learn the real thing. It's littered throughout the entire runtime.

>>9827740
I didn't think it was that bad. She has a lot of room to improve for sure, but compared to a lot of the other stuff posted here (like Flusay Girls) it's okay.

>>9827933
umi lol

>>9827740

Kinda sounds like a generic royalty free song. Its not bad, just bland.

Credit where it's due, she's the first person I've seen in this thread that can sing vocal harmonies properly

Does anyone else have a hard time finding where they belong in their local idol community? I have a lot of friends who are in ll cover groups, but I don't like cosplaying anymore. Unfortunately, there's no non-ll idol groups where I live. I want to sing and dance real idol songs and dress as myself but I'm a little too shy to go solo... Any advice?

>>9828477
Start reaching out online instead of locally. Theres lots of online communities specifically for non-cosplay idols and maybe you might meet someone from your area who you never thought existed

>>9828477

Go solo anyway?

There's nothing physically stopping you, and if you get grilled for what you put out, so what? Use the advice to get better.

The biggest sin people posted here commit is not listening to the criticism and using it to improve. Would you be willing to listen to it or would you be pig-headed like Stellure and try to truck on with a formula that obviously isn't working?

Also if you went solo you could create your own deadlines, persona, aesthetic and filming style and decide what everything else would entail without having cringey weeblets wanting to fulfil their own LL RP fantasies.

>>9827933
giant nico is just so off putting

This is the entry that got first place. The one you posted got 4th.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BgZacGfH2yb/

>>9829914
I meant to quote
>>9820979
Here is second place
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bgj_FUyh1dZ/

>>9829914
>https://www.instagram.com/p/BgZacGfH2yb/

cuute

>>9829914

>that terrible lispyncing immediately off the bat

>>9829914

>is that a fucking garden centre

>>9830112

It amazes me how people get away with shit like this.

>>9829914
>>9829917
wow. those were both....not great
the girl who was posted should have won over them desu...yes her dancing was not sharp but it was miles better than these

Stellure’s latest venture
“We’ve run out of costume and theme ideas so help us out by designing our costumes for us. You get exposure if you win. No money, no free merch. Just your design poorly made and show on the internet.”

>>9830314
>that fucking drawing

>>9830314
You're right, but it looks like everyone in the comments is super excited and loves it, and that actually warms my heart a bit. Still think they should give at least free merch though.

>>9830180
I feel hanayo's dancing was better than her. minus the akward pv. The 2nd tho eh

>>9830314
well llsif costumes contest give less, only your design is exposed but no real exposure of the artist.

>>9830314
Somebody create a costume based around the Cousinfuckers rant, it’d be amazing

From this, we can assume there’ll be no music videos for these songs right?

>>9831894

Is Titania an actual fatty? Every piece of art I see of her neglects giving her an actual waistline - a corset is meant to cinch it in, not have it almost be the same size as her huge knockers.

>>9831896
wait.. I don't think they have ever shown a photo of Titania.. all the rest but not her

>>9831899

She'd better have backfat for days or Mimi is going to have some questions to answer to.

Maybe Titania is the new dog to kick after people felt bad for Luna getting the short straw for so long.

>>9831896
>>9831899
>>9831904
This is her with Tauri from this year

>>9831910
And her with Stella, Mimi, and Tauri in early 2017

>>9831894
>hey, We announce a new song, while the others 3 still aren't finished!

Stellure focus, stop doing new things when the past projects aren't finished.

I don’t believe they’ve posted any performance vids yet but Peachy Parade just performed a like debuting their new members and new outfits at an event called Kira Kira Pop. They always improve with each performances I’ve seen. I hope they keep doing well.

>>9832072
their outfits are super cute!!

>>9810764
>>9811158
I agree, the backflip wasnt anything much, it didnt have the energy in it

>>9832159
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vpzifkoZHI

Around 1:48 (the girl going across the screen), that's more of what I imagine Chika does. It's a fairly basic cheer move, but you do need to train for it. And you need a spotter/someone to help you for sure.

>>9832189
agreed

I'm in a group where a couple of the girls don't really wear much makeup. They have nice skin and aren't ugly but like, wearing eyeliner is a big deal for them.
This makes them look frumpy in photos though. How can I ask them to put on makeup without sounding like a dick?

>>9832519
It will be time consuming but offer to do their makeup for your next event. Tell them tips and how you learned how to do makeup while doing theirs. Showing them its easy/doable will encourage them to try it out on their own next time.

I don't remember if it was already mentioned here or in a past thread, but another anon said to show excitement while them youtube tutorials for makeup.

>>9832189
yeah i can totally see it looking like that irl though realistically i dont think she would be that good if she hasn't been practicing the move for that long. But still i love seeing that bounce from that backflip.

>>9832519
Just be a dick about it.
You don't have to say "You're both ugly without makeup" but instead, "Sorry to bring this up, but x and x would it be possible for you both to try some sort of cosplay style makeup for next event? It's really easy to drown your features out when wearing these costumes/wigs, I think it'll make you both stand out more and look really pretty."

Anyone know what happened to Teya? I thought she was in Japan trying to make it big but now she's back in the US it looks like, did she give up already?

>>9831911
Oh my god, I can't believe I didn't recognize that that was Mimi. I remember watching the vlog of them in those cosplays and I was like, 'god why is the Cyan so fucking awkward?"

>>9828072

Beckero?

>>9832072
They have a couple up on their Youtube, theyre not super new though

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0qQtyld9aCKkIVAi35M3yA

check this out, give us some advice if possible!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SESYglCzqbA&t=31s

>>9833911
Aw, what happened? That’s so young.

>>9833996
My advice is stop contributing to the oversaturation of love live and expand your tastes

>>9833997
Rachel's friend and fellow group member here. Rei passed on Monday at the hands of her abuser and former boyfriend. You can probably Google her name and read the news stories if you want more details, but it's awful, fair warning.

>>9834001
for example? vocaloid is saturated too and there isnt much more else to do as a group

>>9834013
You can't be this serious. You do know Love Live is not the only idol anime? Theres alot of non-anime idol groups. Hell, even male groups. I won't spoonfeed you when you can do the most basic of research yourself. It doesn't take much to expand from Love Live unless your lazy or refuse to expand your shit taste.

>>9834013
>isnt much else to do as a group

I'm not the first poster but there are dozens of jpop idol groups to choose from. All the 48/46g, a bunch of hello project groups, camellia factory, Gem, passpo etc etc

>>9834002
Oh my god, that is horrible! Incomprehensible is right. I was thinking it was a car accident or something.

>>9834020
i was talking about doing it in cosplay, it's not very funny when you do a dance cover of a professional group which is basically 100 times better as you will ever be

>>9834027
You must be new

>>9834030
...yes

>>9833996
>>9834013
>>9834027
>>9834031
You must 18+ to be on here

>>9833996
Don't act innocent lol

>>9834002

Were you the one in the feels thread? If so I'm so sorry.

>>9833996
The editing is REALLY distracting

>>9834059
Yeah sorry. There hasn't been much to do except hang out on my phone, and everyone irl is already in a lot of pain. So I just keep refreshing /cgl/ and thinking about it.

>>9834057
oof

>>9833996
oh god i thought they were ok until i saw their intros. this is so cringy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqh_e4SrqvA

Hello guys, I'm one of the members of the video that's been shared here and I'm so sorry of reading all these comments. No one of our members shared that link here also because we didn't know about 4chan until a few minutes ago, so I'm really sorry if it makes you any troubles (?). I think you can feel good now, but bullying people it's not a good thing. We are all adults so we don't really care if you find our videos bad or cringy, we will get better. Thank you for being rude like this and have a good day~

>>9834127
>doesn't care if we find their video cringy
>has to tell us that they don't care by posting here

>>9833996
>>9834132
I don't think they self posted themselves.
The English in the OG post is too good compared to the comments

i have a question i would really appreciate some advice on. whenever you see groups of any kind at con doing hallway dances do you ever stop and watch? if you dont, what could they do different to get you to stop and watch?
i'm starting something kind of different right now and our groups looking for more members to fill it up, we're already in a small area and we need to get attention from possible local future members (as well as support hopefully)

>>9834145
Try and find an indoor spot that has a nice sitting area for people to stop by and chill for a while to watch you. Having a sign with your group name and flyers to hand out will make you seem more legitimate. And make sure your dancing is energetic and your music is loud. Too many hallway dance groups get ignored for being lackluster and not exciting.

>>9833911
I didn't personally know her, but I did get the chance to see her perform with MiraiWish last year, and she seemed like such a sweet person. I'm genuinely sorry for anyone affected by her loss. I have no words. My condolences to her family and friends.

>>9834002
Oh wow, I'm so so so so sorry? This isn't the type of news I expect to hear from this community. Sending positive vibes to you all, they won't do much but I hope you will all be able to properly mourn and feel better soon <3.

>>9834199
Ntp but adding to this, try to attract some wotagei! They’ll always make a performance seem bigger.

>>9833996
I really like their Maki, actually. She could do her makeup/wig a little differently, but she captures the character super well!

>>9833996
the quality and location is really nice, but as said above there's a bit too much going on with the editing. The cuts are so fast and going from very different kinds of angles it's kind of hard to follow along. The few moments I could see the dancing i noticed some synch problems and some people lazing out some of the moves. Great start though, just keep improving.

>>9834027
...you do know those love live dances are made by professionals just like any other dance. There's hardly any difference besides one being anime based, so that point makes no sense.

>>9834145
Just make sure there's enough space to not to clog the pathways, it's irritating when there's a performance in hallway and you can't get past them. Stopping to watch would make the situation worse.

Also everyone should remember the choreography. I really like to see dancing but if it's off-sync and few dancers seem lost I just leave.

>>9834090

Don't be sorry, I can't imagine what it must be like losing a teammate and friend like that. O hope that you and the others will be ok though.

>>9834001
>>9834013
They could do some idolm@ster dances. I honestly wanted to do lots of idolmaster dances before love live was a thing.

>>9834105
at least their Japanese sounds much better than most non-Japanese people/ weebs trying to speak Japanese.

>>9833996
I think it looks really good too and the only problem is those camera angles (especially the ones where its at a lower angle and seeing under their skirts) but then again their skirts are short anyways.

>>9833996
Its a shame because this is such a high quality shoot.
Overtime I see LL cosplayers wearing CHEONGSAM outfits dancing to KAGUYA my heart breaks a little... you do realise that Kaguya is referring to Japanese Culture and History. It's just wrong doing that dance in those outfits.... you couldn't have gone with another outfit??? It would've made your group much more unique.

Also you need a bigger location, it looks so tight and uncomfortable in that small room.. At least try to back the camera up to stop cutting off your feet...

What was with all the weird bum/thigh shots????

Two entries from the Overseas Idol Competition that were uploaded recently
https://youtu.be/2_HjlY_EEAg
https://youtu.be/zvwgTW1F3SM

Will Love Live groups ever die? I'm sick of seeing carbon copies of the same thing. It got old for me a long time ago. Not many of these groups are even good. In all honesty, I think Love Live killed any originality that the idol/odottemita community previously had.

>>9835834
Well, there was a vocaloid over saturation before LL came along, and I bet there’ll be something else that comes along after it.

>>9835851
Vocaloid isn't as bad though. There's thousands upon thousands of songs, more still coming out to this day and will come out, and there's way less people doing the same songs because there is way more variety. You also aren't looking at the same attempt at 9 anime character over and over again

>>9835834

That would require Bamco giving a shit about foreign fans for their other franchises, Japan not being a deliberately outdated country in terms of what is deemed as good exposure and fans doing their part.

Number three is done but number one and two is beyond our control

>>9835834
>>9835851

So I'm in an LL group that came along recently (last year).

I lurk in this thread more than I care to admit, and I see anons say pretty frequently how they're bored of LL groups.

Anons, what do you think makes an LL group stand out? How do you think a group could make itself stand out and get people interested? My mind goes to making original choreography for songs that don't have official choreography, but I can't think of anything past that.

>>9837577
Be professional and care about the quality of the work/group image. Something that always makes me lose interest is when a group doesn't keep their image clean and appears to be run by children.
Focus on cleaning and perfecting dances. A performance with only 3 songs done perfectly is much more interesting/captivating than a performance with 10 songs all done poorly.

>>9837647
Agreed all the way. Quality is ALWAYS better than quantity.

>>9835429
god, twin tails look so ugly when they dont have bangs. how can she think thats cute?

>>9837577
The thing is, net idols like.. net idol stuff? Singing and dancing to originals or songs made by idols and anime. There's vocaloid, idolm@ster, akb, perfume, passpo, dempagumi, hello project, wasuta, and PLENTY others. Being a love love group kind of restricts you to just being a love live group..? Which doesn't necessarily make you net idols or a dance group, you're cosplayers who occasionally dance. And when there are SO many and it floods our feeds for the past couple of years with the same restricted number of songs, it gets incredibly old incredibly fast. There are so many LL songs I can't even stand and won't give the time of day anymore.
My advice is, do whatever you really want to do. But if you REALLY want to stand out, you're going to have to put in some effort.
-Have stellar recording and editing quality
-Honestly try to avoid the crappy convention or awkward stage locations, find somewhere pretty to record that makes sense with the song
-try to be uniform? Have the cosplay outfits made by the same person or try to order them from the same place, even if the quality isn't 100%
-have ENERGY, facial expressions that match the song, lip syncing while you dance
-there's no harm in extra practice

And I don't really want to say it but it really helps to have a group that's overall attractive and around the same size. All those points aren't requirements but I'm sure they'd help your chances. But like I said, do what you want to do. Don't worry too much about what other people think?

>>9838575
Example: this is one of 864787554385431 Kaguya covers. They're super spread out, they aren't always lit, members look awkward and confused, and they are outdoors at some event? Looks sloppy and boring.

>>9838586
Another example: here is another of Kaguya, but actually makes me want to watch. The video is super hype and creative. It's MV style which isn't a MUST but certainly helps, as the same static shot of goes dancing gets pretty boring pretty fast. It helps to make things interesting, like in the beginning with the people with light sticks in the bg and then switching to actual lights after a bit. They don't look confused or nervous, which REALLY helps

>>9838311
It's not horrible, but yeah, definitly cuter with bangs. I prefer her hairstyle in their new intro video.