/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Nobody at San Japan has anything to do with the boycott accounts on fb/instagram/Twitter/tumblr. If they’re organizing a physical protest it’s unrelated to the boycott.

>>9786667
:doubt:

So apparently they keep deleting posts and making comments disabled to anything regarding the boycott or anyones opinions on the whole john scandal.

https://twitter.com/zachcallison/status/963925380313661440

>>9786692
You can doubt all you want but all it means is that you're fishing for an excuse to shit on the boycott because you can't be irked to care more about other human beings than you do your greasy weeb habits.

Something’s missing

Hmmm

>>9786727
You could've just posted this cap and said "SU's biggest VA left out Matsuri on his con schedule", geez

To the anon acting like they stumbled on to some -big thing- with the SJ chair's comments, stop.

His post was clearly for informational purposes and a nudge in a more productive direction for anyone who may be compelled to speak out. It's a far cry from a call to action and he's not trying to arrange or organize anything anti-AM. As much as I hate to say it this way, it's pretty obvious that he barely cares enough about SJ to keep doing what he does...you really think he wants to try and take malicious action against a con that has effectively been an extremely expensive midlife crisis for two people who are desperate to keep the thing glued together?

Have some common sense and stop grasping at straws. Also if you're dumb enough to think that a group or business shouldn't have an opinion on this kind of thing either...then I don't know what else to say except maybe get some help. Or take a social studies class.

>>9786751

Hi dave

>>9786727
Website error

>>9786779
moshi moshi
beito d e s u

I remember I think in 2014 when they had the rave upstairs, being able to feel the floor bounce slightly because everyone was jumping/dancing, I wasn't on there for long fuck that.

I’d pay money to see Daniela’s face right now. I wonder if John warns his employees that another cancellation is coming or if they have to find out from CGL or the boycott page.

They announced SU guests back in July so maybe they just forgot they were coming... or the contracts aren't done yet... or..

Ok maybe it was a premature announcement that was never actually set in stone.

>>9786877
No they cancelled. They’re going to claim “work-related conflicts”

>>9786892
The Steven Universe fanboys are going to be so bummed. What about the other VA’s ? Did they cancel too?

>>9786711
Page doesn’t exist?

>>9786897
Unsure, but from what I understand the two other VAs were more worried about rep damage than Zach so probably.

I can't imagine Cartoon Network wanting any of their VAs sticking it out at the con Cosplay Deviants didn't want to associate with.

>>9786899
He deleted the original tweet because it had a photo of him holding a gun and apparently that's insensitive today.

https://twitter.com/ZachCallison/status/963930768035561472

>>9786902
Isn't Cartoon Network having a booth there, however? I wonder if CN as a whole is pulling out. I've seen nothing about it thus far, however, so we'll see?

>>9786877
If this doesn't enrage AM fanatics enough to destroy the convention's reputation forever, then I dunno what will, honestly.

Wonder what this is about

>>9786877
>>9787100
I wonder if there are going to be any American voice actors at all considering most of them bailed out on AM

>>9787293
Either their announcing some guest or that the Steven Universe VA’s aren’t coming

>>9787340
Yeah, I've been wondering about Johnny Yong Bosch and whatnot, since he's said absolutely nothing on this matter. I've been wondering about him in particular since the Overwatch VAs pulled out.

>>9787343
>Overwatch VAs
>pulled out
They were never going to be there in the first place. They announced they were coming, then said it was premature, and then will probably say some bullshit like "conflicts" when in reality they never called them to begin with.

>>9787350
That's what I meant to say, but regardless, I've wondered what he's thought about on the manner, or if he's going to withdraw (or possibly he was never scheduled to come at all, again).

>>9787293
Looks like they’re announcing Hibiki Yoshizaki for something. Damn John, lock down your website better.

>>9787350
Incorrect, they did contact the VAs. I don’t know if they were still in negotiations or already signed, but there was contact. The VAs backed out either because they were pissed about the premature announcement or because they realized heroes never diddle children.

>>9787371
Yeah, I did notice that thumbnail when I sent the link to a friend. Recognized it immediately. I guess we'll continue waiting for an official statement from the SU voice actors, if there will be one at all.

>>9787376
>>9786968
>>9786903
>>9786902
>>9786897

Someone could just...ask him. Comment on the fb post or tweet at him. Link him to the AM bio

>>9787386
People have asked and he hasn’t responded. If they have some formal announcement planned, he wouldn’t talk about it on SM.

Surely the guy who voiced Goku in the Mexican dub of DBZ will be an acceptable replacement for the Steven Universe voice actors.

Also, what's with this J-fashion makeover shit that costs essentially $230 extra to get a $300 dress and makeup? Are they just throwing in whatever they can to appease people after all the Overwatch (and possibly SU) bullshit?

>>9787530

If it's the school, isn't it likely they will just send over rando students to do the makeover? I can't imagine sending certified professional teachers.

So weird that AM managed to update their guest page to add the rando Mexican VA, but forgot to remove Zach Callison.

>>9787572
This could easily be an absolute rip off
>>9787628
I don't think he's made an official statement, even though the tweet was very dubious. Again, we'll have to see!

>>9787642
Like the year John was going on about how the fashion show was sponsored by Dior makeup (or some other prestige brand) but he had really just hired a mall counter girl to do faces?

>>9787645
Like Dior would even want to touch an anime convention

>>9787645
He actually did that? Cringe.

>>9787572
They’re already dredging the depths of local Facebook groups trying to find people who can do “anime makeup”

It’s going to be fucking hilarious

>>9787572
They’re already dredging the depths of local Facebook groups trying to find people who can do “anime makeup”

It’s going to be fucking hilarious

>>9787668
Is that really the "Living Anime Girl" on the upper right? Oh dear god, I don't want to see them emulate that with just makeup, Jesus....

>>9787663
Yeah I knew one of the girls who did the shot and it was just a counter service for Dior. They have swindled so many MUAs and hair stylist over the years I am surprised none of come forward.

>>9787293
I decided to check on this after all day today, since I saw it here this morning, and it's STILL password protected. The thumbnail is still Hibiki Yoshizaki, though, so Thursday announcement, my ass, I guess.

>>9787645
>>9787659
>>9787663
The makeup counter Dior staff didn't show up to the fashion show because they weren't getting paid. They never pay their makeup artists.

Jesus christ is there anything at AM that doesn't cost 40 fucking dollars to do? Does your $75 badge get you into the vendor hall or do you have to pay for that too?

>>9787738
If you want to get in before everyone. Then yes.

>>9787744
How do kids afford this shit? When I was a young weeaboo I had like $50 to get me through the entire con weekend.

>>9787738
AM is really starting to get fucking expensive for what it is. This is the last time I'm going due to only hearing about the scandals late this past fall, and I've been a superpass holder from 2016 until now. In comparison to the years beforehand, there's all the typical extra stuff that was free back then that AM is making superpass holders pay for now *on top* of prices staying the same for these passes. I'm pretty fucking angry about it, honestly, because access to cut the line by itself is not worth $100 extra in comparison to the normal pass. Thank god an unknowing family friend gave me the money to buy this pass as a present, so I didn't actually have to spend my own money, but that was back in the end of May, and refunds for my purchase block are long over.

Honestly, on another note, no wonder superpasses are still for sale. They always sell out by October or November, but they're still on sale somehow. I know they sell the same amount every year unless they announce more because of high demand to meet a Japanese guest, according to a friend of mine who used to work for John until the end of AM 2017.

Tl;dr: this is all fucking ridiculous, and I wish I could've used that money on something that wasn't this much of a rip-off, for fuck's sake.

>>9787500
Good one anon.

>>9787774
If it makes you feel any better, John Leigh will use your family friend's money to buy weird lingerie from China and then spend the next year trying to get teenage girls to model it for him in his store.

>>9787668
>>9787680
Someone please take pictures of this shitshow when it happens. I’m in need of a giggle.

>>9787790
Oh I'm well-aware that's a serious possibility, and it makes me really frustrated that I didn't have a clue about this sooner.

>>9787738
Bet that they’re making everything cost extra since alot of their previous customers now know about his bad practices and aren’t stepping anywhere near AM. Got to make up in the cash somehow. Oh, if only they knew that that’s not going to work.

>>9787800
I do know other superpass holders, like >>9787774 was mentioning, who aren't going back due to the sexual assault allegations, and THEY say they know other previous superpass holders who aren't going anymore for the same reason. That's a decent amount of money to be lost, since I've always heard there's ~500 superpass holders at max.

I can't wait to watch this con die in a fire either this year or within the next two years. I can't fucking wait.

>>9787800
They're copying the AX model without being as high level as AX. I mean, Marc Perez is there after all so he probably convinced John it'd work

>>9787805
Speaking of him, did Marc get fired from AX? Or did AM offer him more pay, or something along those lines?

>>9787817
>>9787805
From what I hear, Marc doesn’t do a damn thing at AM except collect a paycheck. I feel like it’s less Marc convincing John to do AX stuff and more John nabbed Marc for his collection of “shit I’ve ripped off from anime expo”

>>9787817
I think it's the latter. He left in 2016 saying "time to move on" and a month later was announced at Anime Matsuri

>>9787803
Wonder what the next new big anime con will be.

>>9787803
Wonder what the next new Houston anime convention will be.

>>9787826
Have we learned nothing

>>9787865
Elaborate

>>9787945
Anime was a mistake

Fucking LOL

>>9788066
Damn John stop having your porn buddies write blog posts for your website.

What's up with the push for Mexicans? Can you not get Texans to show up anymore John so you gotta import your attendees?

>>9788146
I do know Daniela did an advertising campaign towards people in Mexico, along with her friends there spreading the word about it and whatnot.

I honestly bet that the advertising campaign was just her friends convincing people to go, though, honestly.

>>9788156
Because god knows Mexican men are known for their unwavering support of people who chronically abuse women and underage girls.

The hell? Isn’t this image from when the Mexican kids took over a high school in California to protest immigration reform? Pretty sure that ended with the American flag flying upside down and a bunch of Mexicans getting arrested.

>>9788187
Looks like Daniela is on board

>>9788194
She sounds incredibly out of touch with what the image really stands for. God, that's so disappointing.

>>9788156
>implying Daniela has any friends left in Mexico

Somebody needs to tip off ICE that this con is being run by illegal Mexican nationalists or some shit. Hell it might even be true.

>>9788204
Is this the picture she commented on (minus the edited AM logo)? Because I fucking hope not.

>>9788217
No she commented on >>9788187

>>9788204 is the other photo taken at the same event.

>>9788187
>evangelion store and sailor moon store at AM

kek what does that have to do with mexicans

>>9788194
God Daniela is such an embarrassment. Didn't she also take photos in BTSSB that clearly have no photo signs and say she can be trashy because Mexican? Way to be the ultimate stereotype kek

>>9788233
I saw that, holy shit.

Here's the post. Blocking obvious name because rules and whatever.

Mexican Lolita here. Daniela's image here was shit waaaaay before she started working with AM. It all culminated when she killed MLS and started defending John. and now no one that matters wants to be associated with her, it is social suicide to continue to support her.

As far as I know she is just as bad as the Leigh's. She is just looking for things to exploite for her own gain.

>>9788268

She's not even good at lolita shit

>>9788268
What does she even think of the victims, including those she may know personally, if there's any in that category? Does she just ignore them or what?

>>9788280
As far as I remember she used to defend john to hell and back and would get into arguments defending his honor and side of story and how the victims are exaggerating.

For her, John and His wife are the victims and the girls are the awful, evil bullies.

>>9788318
I wonder if Deneice ever comes home to Daniela trying on her clothes and trying to get their kids to call her "mommy".

Also, I think it's important to say that most of the Mexican Lolita scene is well aware of the AM drama, and the majority is disgusted with Daniela's support of the Leigh's and this whole drama.

>>9788327
That's good, I had faith they knew, but since I'm not in the community itself, it's good to know from an outside source.

>>9788318
This is incredibly true. I used to be friends with Daniela, and after I tried to tell her that John touched me, she immediately told me I was "one of them" and blocked me on the spot.

>>9788332
Have you talked to the Boycott facebook people yet?

>>9788332
Yep! Already shared with them over twitter.

>>9788326
There used to be rumors a few years ago, before she moved to the us, because she used to say things like john was the man that was making her dreams com true and was straight up fanatical defending him when the first allegations started to come up. It was brushed up as rumors of jealous girls, but now I'm not so sure their relationship is strictly platonic.

>>9788280
She blocked me when I made my experience known. Daniela made a vague passive aggressive status calling me a liar and preaching Anime Matsuri was the greatest thing ever. That was when she was still in Mexico. When she moved to Houston, she tried to send me friend requests multiple times. Fake bitch.

>>9788208
Wow

The people in the AM Facebook group are literally some of the dumbest human beings I've ever had the misfortune of encountering.

Who the fuck DOUBLES DOWN on supporting sexual harassment? Does everyone in that group just think women are lying whores who want nothing more than to take away their animes?

>>9788521
this is what happens when you form your entire identity around being a weeb. everything that remotely complicates the utopia of conventions is seen as an attack on your identity.

Lol @ AM only getting foreign guests because nobody in the US will work with them

>>9787293
what was the password out of curiosity?

Anyone else enjoying the meltdown of people asking why they are charging for the rave?

>>9789278
The weebs are revolting!

>>9789279
I find it funny that paying $5 cover for a rave is what pisses weebs off, but not a myriad of sexual assault allegations that are, for the most part, obviously true.

God, I fucking hate weebs.

>>9789278
In the AM group? Post caps.

>>9789393
You can view posts in the group without being a member, Anon.

>>9789278
The only thing better than watching the attendees melt down in that group is watching the employees melt down in that group. Idk why I’m surprised that a group of people who would enthusiastically work for an admitted pervert for free also happen to be morons.

Anyone have any questions for Deneice? She's doing a facebook live Q&A in half an hour, it's sure to be a shitshow.

Screenshot censored because I have no idea what the rules are here. Can I link to a public post on Facebook?

Video was lagging...all I got from it was Bosch not coming and so are SU VAs.

Who the fuck is this person censored in red? I wasn't watching to stream, but a friend sent me this, and it feels off.

>>9790251
A highly autistic 40 year old dude who is usually found sperging all over the AM facebook group.

>>9790253
Is he like that one coast guard vet, in the sense that the only con that he's ever been to is AM? I would not be surprised if that was the case.

>>9790251
Dude is just a very big fan of pedophilia

>>9790270
Just saw all this, and found his profile. He even looks like a fucking pedo; I'm not surprised, yet still disappointed.

Do they honestly think that ANYONE is buying this shit?

>>9790297
>work related issues
Yea fucking right

>>9790270
Tfw not even the weebs will have you

Someone FINALLY said it.

Already purged. Only screencaps can prove the heartbreaks.

>>9790251
Hi, I'm Deneice from Anime Matsuri.

>>9790302
Their guest page is getting smaller by the day.

Steven Universe VA's cancellation is gonna hurt, you don't want to disappoint those fans

>>9790358
haha George from space city con is a big heaping pile of garbage. John is a big heaping pile of garbage with fleshlights and anime pillows.

The things that the staff have posted before and after the livestream last night are terrible distractions at best.

Also, why does the AM Facebook group love this dead meme? Like honestly why??

Friend of mine spotted this. I knew the "webmaster" talk was bullshit, but even a staff member has even stated that as a fact.

Real time meltdown in the AM Facebook group.

Sexual harassment = ok, not getting your funko pops signed by the voice of Steven Universe = FUCKING RIOT

>>9790950
I also find it interesting that among the riot, there are so many people trying to sell their passes, along with people selling superpasses, as well. This is a meltdown beyond any proportion that I've seen so far. I'm honestly shocked that the Overwatch VAs cancelling/pulling out/never being confirmed never made this much of an outcry, to be honest.

Awwww, look at who's trying to cover their tracks. It's totally not SJ behind BAM

>>9791103
I'm neither pro nor anti boycott, yet it seems like he's just trying to avoid all the flac he's received for simply not accepting what John and Deneice have done to attendees and guests as acceptable or okay in any circumstance. I've heard from a lot of folks that he's being deliberately attacked by AM staff and fanboys for that one long post he made, and not even in relation to the face that he could possibly be running BAM. I definitely think he's just trying to stay on the down-low for a brief time to avoid said flac, just like many of John's victims have been doing for the past 3+ years for similar, if not worse reasons.

It's funny that Leigh outright says they've been promoting these voice actors for months, yet he's trying to pass the dropouts as simple "scheduling conflicts".

What's even more pathetic is that people believe that bullshit over them pulling out because the Leighs are perverted trash.

>>9791114
Wait hold up, where have the staff openly attacked Henkin?

>>9791148
I've heard via DM. It could easily be a rumor, it's all I heard.

>>9791184
<has DM, doesn't want to share

>>9791103
Fuck off, stop giving Dave credit for our work.

>>9791211
Oh, my apologies

>>9791220
Nobody has had to work this hard to fuck someone since the time John Leigh found out Girl Scout camps are chaperoned.

>people sad about SU VAs
>Western cartoons at an anime convention
>good

That show is still going? People actually like SU unironically? Lol o k a y

>>9791211

This. Dave isn't exactly sunshine and rainbows either. He's done shit behind the scenes that are questionable too. He's just better at not getting caught.

It probably helps he tries to keep somewhat of a low profile, but he's he's far from a good person.


He's the next competition to AM. AM going down is good for his business. That's the bottom line.

>>9791264
Dude is most likely losing sleep over the fact people believe he's behind BAM.

Speaking of which, I wouldn't be surprised if he secretly full on sexually assaulted someone.

Sure is trying to project AM's shortcomings onto Dave in here.

>>9791205
I haven't seen the DM personally. I heard from someone else about the DMs he received, which is why I said it's probably a rumor.

>>9791308
That's rich, do you actually think AM is the only con with baggage? Get yer head out of your ass, anon

>>9791254
This, absolutely this. I know a lot of weebs like it, but I still feel like it has a place in an anime convention whatsoever.

Not including AM, what's the biggest convention in Houston behind Comicpalooza?

>>9791352
Space City Comic Con!!!

I can’t even keep my face straight while typing that.

BAM inbox message of the day

>>9791422
you missed blocking his name at the top

>>9791445
He missed the "I'm not nine, I'm eleven! Fuck you!" at the end.

>>9791445
Fuck

>>9791422
3 edgy 5 me.

Reupload, I’ve challenged him to katanas at dawn and am waiting on a reply

>fan compares AM scandal to Harvey
>Denise compares herself to Elon Musk

Well then.

What the fuck is with these soulless weebs and using hurricane Harvey as an excuse to buy their tiny resin figurines of anime girls taking a shit at the ONE shitty con in town?

Update: not interested in a duel.

>>9791469
fuck niggah that's some hardcore shit
anime philosophy

>>9791469
This is definitely the most I've cringed today. Is this person a teenager or something?

>>9791458
What did she say in regards to Elon Musk? Holy shit what the fuck?

>>9791487
That he's successful but he's had to have failed thousands of times to be successful. That he and people like him are who she looks to for inspiration or something. The whole video was like a decent into madness

>>9791469
>sexual assault victims are victims of the people they rant to and not the people who assaulted them

what the flying fuck is this person on?

>>9791490
Messing up rocket launches on its own is one thing, but sexually assaulting over a dozen people, calling those events "mistakes", and trying to simply erase those events from everyone's memory is COMPLETELY different. One is a business mistake, and one is a felony that could easily put someone in jail for a long time.

I've never seen leaps in logic so vast in a long time. The entire pro-AM community is absolutely guilty in regard to that fact, not even just the Leighs and their staff. But this Elon Musk bullshit is over the fucking top, when I thought they'd gone over the top with their asinine comments over the years of AM's existence.

>>9791331
And too bad for you this isn't a "cons with baggage" thread.
Trying to rope Dave in on the AM topic in any capacity beyond what he has explicitly said is stupid because he is very clearly not involved and people are grasping at straws to point fingers in any direction other than at John and Deneice. If you wanna make a thread about dumb shit Dave has done go right ahead, but don't expect anything posted there to overlap with anything relevant to this thread. They are not affiliated, the cons are not at war, and taking Dave's post this far out of context to try and paint him as some kind of con-killing mastermind is getting really ridiculous.

>>9791503
Don't you think making a full blown boycott harassing people left and right is getting really ridiculous? Check yourself before you shrek yourself

>>9791455
>kill it if you have to

No shit, that’s what the boycott is for you coconut


Also
>taking life advice from emo adam driver

>>9791530
Lmfao no. A full-blown boycott is still handling this issue with kid gloves imo.

>>9791530
We are still waiting for one example of a boycotter “harassing” a guest or a vendor.

John Leigh has somehow managed to convince a bunch of idiots to actively work to hide his history of groping teenage girls and my question is why is this man not currently doing psyops for the US government

>>9791557
TIL the mass spamming, asking for donations, and telling complete lies at times towards AM supporters is not considered harassment.

>>9791562
>mass spamming
Let's be real anon, you'd be whining if you'd heard even a single person talking ill about AM so your definition of anything beyond that is clearly "spamming".
>asking for donations
literally where, unless you're talking about people encouraging others to donate to charities that benefit abuse victims? because if you have a problem with that in any capacity I don't know what to tell you other than sit down and take a closer look at yourself anon.
>telling complete lies
misinformation is moving around on both sides but there's enough information to support the overall claims that John and Deneice are exploitative and predatory, unless you're ready to accuse former con guests and employees as liars too? it's not just attendees that are angry, you know.

>>9791562
Hi, John. Or Daniela, Stefan, Deneice, whichever of you. Nice to see you here.

>>9791469
“I get your philosophy I watched attack on titan”

IM FUCKING DYING

>>9791562
Mass spamming as in telling individual fans how they can contact the guests and give their opinions? I guess you think people emailing their congressman is spam too?

Donations are for ads. We’ve gotten about half of what we’ve spent already donated via ko-fi. Also lol @ an AM fanboy complaining about being charged for something, enjoy paying a cover to get into a fucking anime con rave full of the retards you see in the AM Facebook group.

Let’s see one example of a lie that’s been told by the boycott page. I’ll wait.

>>9791103
Dave is not clever enough to run the boycott page, and the fact that he would publically comment on it all as a con chair kind of proves it. He is really not good at what he does.
>>9791211
This.

Jesus fucking Christ

>>9791808
Sorry I'd love to put John in jail for assaulting me, because sexual assault is actually a fucking felony, no matter what a bunch of stupid weeaboos think.

>>9791827
Show me on the doll where John touched you

Holy shit that Armon dude in the AM Facebook is like the most autistic person on earth. “Is it just me or did the group just get more lit?” No you dumb fucker you’ve just been spamming it for 12 hours straight.

They’re claiming they’re going to announce 5 more “big” voice actors....smells like bullshit. No American VA with a big following would come to this shitshow voluntarily.

>>9791989
I'm betting they're getting Dick Mangina out of desperation

>>9791890
>not showing the backside
I love to mark it for you, but I can't do that accurately. \_(ツ)_/

>>9791890
>not showing the backside
I'd love to mark it for you, but I can't do that accurately. \_(ツ)_/

>tfw wasn't planning on attending this year after being overall disappointed last year
>someone bought me a pass

rip, I honestly hope their is mad drama at the actual con.

>>9792108
I'm honestly curious about how rampantly autistic the pro-Matsuri folks are going to be at people boycotting the convention in person. I need to hang out in Discovery Green just to see.

>>9792192
>boycotting the event in person

Google “boycott”

>>9792221
Oh I know, I've just heard there's going to be a protest in person. I side with the boycott, but these protestors are separate.

>>9791827
I dare you to take the black man to the police

>>9792269
I love how he suddenly gives a fuck about africa after literally years of trying to ignore his heritage, because he thinks being black will silence the "SJWs" who are "attacking" him.

>>9792269
Black man in his ali express lunar new year outfit. That bag creased white sack is the mark of a man with a deep respect for Japanese culture.

>>9792283
I hope you know that's an African dashiki. Racist.

>>9792290
It's not ironed, so he's not wearing it with pride.

GOTTEM

>>9792269
>>9792273
I've always found that odd. He's never spoken about his heritage, or anything related to that at all, until now. Regardless of how he's trying to play the race card (if he is at all or whatever), I just want to know why he basically ignored it for so damn long,

>>9792454
Probably embarrassed. He's not super religious but his parents are, probably just trying to distance himself from them in every way he can.

>>9792454
>>9792462
I thought he was Romanian or something, not black?

>>9791254
I still like it, I find it's a cute and kinda relaxing to put on after a shitty day. But I agree, it shouldn't be at an anime convention.

>>9791827

would be willing to bet you don't know what assault it. if you did, and John did assault you, the cops would be involved.


idk, I used to be on board with the boycott, but the further I looked into it and especially seeing how fucking vicious and smug the boycott facebook has gotten, I no longer feel im on the "right" side by supporting them. I decided im going to AM. There has been no other accusations past 2015, the problem seems to be fixed, the guy apologized (and actually seemed heartfelt) and the convention is fun. I dont know what more any reasonable person wants.

I'd rather support a convention with no existing allegations rather than a group of bullies that hold hands and tells each other that what they're doing isn't totally worse. I'm not down for echo chamber sjw shit.
See yall at AM, since I know half you guys are gonna be there anyway, peace

>>9792919
>t. Russian spy

>>9790754
disgusting

>>9792919
Stole this from the Boycott twitter, there has been accusations past 2015, and I know someone else personally who was also attacked by John at this same event. His initial apology was absolute bullshit, and I honestly think he barely paid attention to the course, if he took it at all, which I know some think that certificate was forged.

>>9792919
Anon, I agree the the Boycott Facebook is full of itself and it's 99% likely they had very little to do with the guests backing out. What's much more likely is that news travels and AM is notorious for making announcements before contracts are signed. Their terrible business practices are just finally catching up to them and the timing is just too good.

I mean does anyone else wonder why they have no US voice tallent or why the anime company in Houston wasn't even planning on being there? It's because they know AM is run worse than a first year con.

>>9792919
tfw you know the butthurt snowflakes don't have a good comeback to this one. You're an American hero!

>>9792919
Have you considered that since I'm lower income, that I can't afford a lawyer, and that I fear that I won't be taken seriously because I am a woman? The only reason I've been able to speak out now is that people are now speaking out en masse, and that a lot of those folks are also minorities like myself, so I feel safe to speak out, and to possibly take legal action in the coming months (if I raise enough money by then).

>>9793016
Did you send a message to the boycott twitter? Even if nothing comes of it legally at least they can add your story to the list.

Guys. If you have stories dm boycott am. They'll keep it anonymous! We need more!

>>9793050
I did. I'm the victim of the story that >>9793000 posted here.

>>9793053
That's the thing, you dumdums! There hasn't been any new "incidents" that hasn't already been made public and settled way back when. At this point, you're just fishing to stay alive as a boycott.

>>9793066
Did you even look at >>9793000 ?

>>9793016

yeah then you totally should. You dont need a lawyer to sue people. all a lawyer does is talk FOR you, it's not difficult to explain what he did in a court setting. a jury will side with a victim 10 out of 10 times, as long as it's *actual* assault. You're anon, just tell us what he did that're calling "assault" because that's a big word.

If its anything like what's described in >>9793000
then that's not assault, and you'll lose that one quick.

Not to victim blame or anything, but that screenshot is obviously nothing. It sounds like a youtuber describing the situation where he accidentally touched her, while passing her in a crowded room, as dramatic as possible.

Also, obviously some people just like highlighting things.

>>"OH HIS SKIN TOUCHED MINE BRIEFLY AND I RESPONDED IN A WAY WHERE NO ONE COULD HEAR OR CONFIRM ME. PEDO! PEDO!"

oh shut up, be an adult please. if he ASSAULTED you or actually harassed you, try being an adult and handling it like an adult.

This entire boycott is trivializing ACTUAL fucking victims of ACTUAL fucking assault and harassment. Recognize when the issue is solved, and move on to the next asshat that decides to make a move on someone.

I imagine the boycott as 14-year olds holding pitchforks. I'd be back on board with the boycott again if you guys learned how to speak professionally or recognize *existing* issues. otherwise fuck off. your cult of the 100 same people spouting the same 2 stories over and over again aren't cute.

>>9793068

I couldn't said better than >>9793071 myself

>>9793071
>it’s just words! Who gives a shit??
>nothing since 2015! Who gives a shit??
>sticking your hand down the back of someone’s dress isn’t serious enough! Who gives a shit??

Who is trivializing harassment victims again?

Fuck off back to restocking the shelves at Shop In Wonderland. You gave it a good try though, maybe John will even feed you this week.

>>9793085
>misses the entire point about the highlighting
>misses the entire point about the appropriate actions one must take if John did actually assaulted you, instead messages on lol4chan crying wolf as an actual sexual assault victim

Well idk guys. This is a tough one

>>9793103

You sure make it look tough. keep trying and you might come up with an entire thought.
see you at AM :)

>can’t get anyone from the US on board so they announce a literal who Japanese voice actor for an upcoming anime with under 2k followers

Why is anyone even set on attending this shitshow of a con? It’s funny to see spergs defending a for-profit con with awful owners that could give less of a shit about the community
and more about how they can line their pockets with your money.

>>9793107
Yeah see you there! I'll bring you some cake

>>9793103
Does John pay you time and a half to white knight him on 4chan? Or are you paid in movie tickets and jizz stained burando like the rest of his employees?

>>9793114
Lmao not even their dick sucking Facebook group could manage enthusiasm for today’s announcement. The comments are all staff and volunteers. Fucking RIP

>>9793121

haha someone spent too much time with their pants down writing this.

>>someone says the boycott is shit, must be sucking johns dick or getting movie tickets.

If those mental gymnastics are normal for you, you have a rough life ahead of you, haha.

No one is defending john, baitchan. Point is, and has been, that this entire thing has been blown out of proportion because lolitas have too much spare time. turns out buying shit on lacemarket takes like 20 minutes, and leaves the rest of the day to themselves. its not healthy

>>9793071
Hi Daniela, thanks for shutting down victims as liars, as you normally do.

People have different lines that shouldn't be crossed, and touching someone underneath their dress multiple times is probably a line that most people don't want crossed.

Regardless whether this is sexual harassment or not, this was still unwarranted. Whether she can speak about it legally or not, this is still something that John should not have done under any circumstance, especially since this is someone he didn't really know at all in any capacity.

>>9793132
Please, if Daniela was on here, there would be Knuckles spamming on here left and right.

>>9793114
Honestly, who is this Yuru Akiba person? She's got no history online or anything, other than the one role in LiveRevolt she has.

>>9793127
>I'm not defending john, I'm just defending sexual harassment as a whole

>>9793136
That's something very true that I cannot deny. AM's focus on that shitty meme is something beyond explanation.

>>9793136
Daniela is trotting out her as a MEXICAN bullshit on social media again, another Mexican guest must be threatening to cancel.

>>9793140
i know you're bait, but since it's not said enough, literally on one supports sexual harassment.

>>9793132
>>thanks for shutting down victims as liars

oooooo a lolita is in the room! this is where the thread goes from bad to worse, everyone <3
I know you probably feel like a saint or a martyr for defending the unspoken and "damaged" but unforunately you've brought to light how nothing has happened in a long time and the problem you want to shed light on has been fixed. I'm not daniela, as you see there are zero uganda knuckles memes attached to this reply.

I'm not here to convince anon otherwise. just know that you're an idiot and shifting focus to this "big bad man" doesn't hide that.
on that note, see ya at AM which we all know you'll be at anyway, because deep down....everyone knows that its safe despite your fantasy that you have to run from a bald dude just to get to the dealer room. Your biggest worry is a neck beard not knowing when a conversation is over, like at any other convention.

>>9793085
>restocking the shelves
>implying people actually buy things at SiW

>>9793147
Screencaps?

>>9793158
> <3
get out

>>9793158
>literally no one supports sexual harassment, but a man reaching into a girl's dress is just an innocent mistake

>>9793160
I think the only time I've ever seen anyone buy shit at SiW is when stuff goes on super clearance. The last time I walked by there, I saw a bunch of teenagers running around in what looked like Boz, and there was no employee in sight. And the last time I went in there at all, a lot of their dresses were clearly damaged from use, and were still being sold at about retail, if not exactly retail, or even a little more. It's mindblowing that they still sell damaged dresses, or even have a "you damage it, you buy it" policy that's actually enforced.

>>9793000
There's an important detail that isn't presented in this picture that should be known, after expressing the undesired touching did John continue or did he stop?

>>9793181
He attempted to touch one more time. I dunno why it was cut out, but he did attempt a second time (or possibly third, if the first touch was his or not). I did tell him to explicitly stop under my breath, and he skittered off to the other side of the room as a result.

>>9793181

lol there are a lot of important details not shared

>>9793173
>>anon takes anon sharing anon screenshot of another anon as fact.

your stupidity knows no bounds. I'm not even mad, I'm amazed.

>>9793190
>john's dicksleeve take john admitting to previous harassment as proof that he will never do it ever again

your loyalty knows no bounds, I'm not even mad, I'm amazed

>>9793196

hey! that's what I said! no fair :D Sick burn yo

No I just like the convention, past years have been great and its simply not a threat and an immature boycott page isn't going to change that.

Stay mad <3 never change.
#boycottanimematsuribecausecontextisnotimportantandnothingwillmakeushappy

not the catchiest hashtag, ill adimt

>>9793202
Rwumper? Is that you?

>>9793202

>>9793066
I've had multiple people tell me personal stories that they don't feel comfortable sharing, even anonymously, due to businesses or people involved. There's more stories out there
>>9793158
>>9793202
You're really digging yourself deeper here

>>9793202
>sick burn yo
>elongated hashtags
Hello, Lauren Kutterfly, how are you? How's buying all the AM passes going?

>>9793222
MULTIPLE ANON told ANON things?
No way...

That's it, I'm boycotting. Say no more.

>>9793202
>implying being immature isn’t spending all your time on the internet stalking twitter mentions and defending a con that doesn’t give a single shit about you besides your money, and has proved it by constantly sabotaging other cons in the area

But ”muh community!! muh amazing con! Muh fun!” Good luck with that Fate meetup I guess

>>9793236

I feel like you just described San Japan. but see, that's the con drama i couldn't care less about. It has never affected my experience at either con. I go to San Japan every year and I go to AM every year. No one can pretend like "sabotage" has ever mattered to anyone, other than those who work at the convention.

I didnt even know there was a Fate meet, but since you're obviously following it, I'll wish you a good time at it!

>/cgl/ getting killed at their own game
This feels so good.

>>9793204
>>9793225
whoa there, arguing is one thing, but calling someone a retarded uggo is just uncalled for

>>9793258
I guess you have a different definition than the rest of the world

>>9793266

>>9793202
rwumper go back to self publishing your shitty YA novels

“No”

>>9793287
I think this was even funnier

>>9793188
I'm sorry this happened to you, anon. Did this happen at the recent anime ball?

>>9793305
Happened at a brand reveal in fall 2016. It was a while ago.

Ain’t no boycott fags gonna slow my roll

>>9793393

>>9792826
His mom is Romanian, his dad is Nigerian.
He's always just told people about the Romanian side because he wasn't scrambling for a social justice shield.

>>9793393

>>9793353
Nice try anon, but do your basic research. There was no brand reveal hosted at Shop in Wonderland in fall 2016

>>9793142
I'm here bitches!

>>9793520
Daniella if you’re going to make shit up you should scrub the SiW Facebook page better first. There’s a ton of public photos of the event in question.

>>9793520
I think she probably meant fall semester. There was this event, you should have cleaned your Facebook page of all the evidence, you moron.