/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9773021
FIRST!!!!!!111111

Do stories related to monstering but where I wasn't the monster count?

FELLOW AMERICANS.
The time has come for us to man the fuck up. How many of you want to larp, but are faced with this kind of shit? What is keeping us from actually holding ourselves to a high standard of costuming? I used to do a lot of boffer fighting when I was a kid, and wanted to get into larp, but I can't stand how little effort everyone puts into costuming! After searching around, one larp group promoted themselves as having a "high standard of costuming", only for THIS to be their standard! What the fuck is wrong with us? I just want to crossbow some nerds for their gold!

>>9773058
If it involves playing a monster its welcome.

>>9773072
Why is water wet? Why do we exist? Why US larps sucks big time?
These are question that might be never be fully answered

>>9773021
I fondly remember monstering for the first time when I was twelve and new to larping. It was a cheap local one-day larp with maybe twenty-five attendants, held in a single gym hall. It wasn't a larp for kids, but there were two or three more running around. Being an annoying twelve-year-old, I got typecast into the perfect role: playing an imp meant to annoy the fuck out of the players. Basically, me and two others were sent in to try and delay the players in solving a riddle for as long as possible. This, however, was slightly hindered by the fact we had pictographic clues to the riddle written on our foreheads.

The GMs had realized beforehand that the very first thing the players would do was try to kill us, and (because fuck game balance) we were given the ability to reflect literally everything used against us. After the first few players were injured and they were looking for a different solution, some dude who hadn't been paying attention came walking up. He was some important wizardly dude, so he tried to use one of his most powerful spell effects to be rid of me:

Paralyze.

After seeing his smug smile VERY quickly fade away after he realized what he had just done, we spent the rest of the spell duration dancing circles around him, poking him, and pelting him with scraps of paper and other small objects. The rest of the playerbase just kinda dropped what they were doing to witness the spectacle. Then, the second the spell wore off, we ran off. Still holding his spellbook, of course.

It isn't really an epic story, but I think that experience is why I'm still in the hobby eight years later.

>>9773281
To be fair, we do have a prettu good reenactment community, and our SCA guys put a lot of effort forth, but none od that seems to carry over to larp.

>>9772958
You slavsquat on film, you better be damn sure you're ready for the repercussions

>>9773021
I haven't monstered in years. I got a ton of saved pics of good costumes though.

>>9773072
....Thats higher standard than most, sadly.

I play in a game with enforced dress requirements. We are small due to being "elitist".

>>9773369
Because larp is still seen negatively in the US. Whats worse, is that there have been several times when myself and friends have rolled up to larps in our recreation kit, and had people bitch we're over dressed.

>>9773383
It's frustrating. I just want to attend Drachenfest or Conquest once. Also >>9773072 is probably one of the better costumes that group runs, primarily because it is provided by the organizers. The requirement for Orcs is to just smear some green on your face. It ends up looking like the player took an Ogreload.

>>9773383
Where is your group based out of, by the way? Please say somewhere in the pacific northwest.

>>9773072
This picture makes me sad.
Because as an Amerilarper, thats better costumes than a lot of monsters and honestly some players at my game. The fact that they are all wearing leather boots and no khakis makes them better.
Im sad
>>9773383
Its very negative. I find the people in charge are very adamant against change. They like their awful games with shit costumes and bad rules. The issue is in my area, its over saturated. Its hard to make new games.

Forgot my trip
>It ends up looking like the player took an Ogreload.
Fuuuuuck that. Discount halloween stuff is not pricey.

>>9773410
Virginia. Sorry anon.

>>9773417
"How dare you make other people feel self conscious by dressing like that!"

>>9773283
Neato

My first larp I mostly spent being a Gondola on guard duty because there was a fuck ton of rules and no one gave me the link to it beforehand, and everyone had their own version of the rules which didnt help at all. I have no idea how people still manage to get any game progression done without a gm giving you a strike there, I guess they are only hard on newcomers.

>>9773427
Fuark that looks really good.

>>9773510
I feel that larps should have fairly minimal rules. There needs to be a sense of progression without just increasing hit points. I also feel like a lot of larps handle magic wrong. A bunch of people throwing bean bags at each other and yelling "lightning bolt!" gets to be a bit silly.

>>9773512
The game was actually minimalistic and there aint any amerilarp type of magic combat in it. The problem was that I had no idea how larp mechanics work, fags all gave their own version of the rules and cunts got triggered by wrong actions.

The only bad thing about the rulebook was that the game masters had this idea that certain races should react in certain ways to other races, and that there were 20+ races with individual skills and traits that you need to know about, which made the game very comprehensive. One example is drows vs humans, in which case humans should be very frightful in their presence and avoid confrontation, but that should have been up to my own characters choice if he wants to be a dumbass and mess with overpowerful psychopathic cunts who reports every player to the gm for not following lore concepts.

I like that campaign since the gm is chill, the game is large and has a broad and functional system. But the main appeal of it is that there are a ton of powerlarpers that are easy to trigger, and at this point my groups only focus is to make those guys quit because they are hypocritical cunts.

A mate of mine is looking for ancient Greek kit, /cgl/. Is there anywhere to get it that isn’t bespoke?

>>9773512
I've made it a bit of a thought exercise to try and come up with approaches to magic that minimize packet-pitching without getting rid of magic entirely (because there's always going to be those guys who won't play unless they can be a wizard). Best I've been able to come up with so far is casting by voice instead (do your arcane gestures and gibberish, then point at a player and call the spell effect at them), but that comes with its own baggage by increasing word soup. It's a tough thing to manage.

>>9773072
I am 100% for increasing our costuming standards. I spoke with some of my fellow larpers recently about how to do that starting with the staff side, because my main game uses colored tabards for monsters and it's the dumbest shit. The big issue we ran into is that with limited NPCs, they often need to be able to change between costumes quickly--makeup and nice layered costumes make this difficult.

So, maybe we can brainstorm common issues with costuming and how to deal with them. Are there any ways to get good-looking costumes that are durable enough to stand up to combat and can be changed into and out of quickly?

>>9773383
>you better be damn sure you're ready for the repercussions
what, you come to this country and steal my wallet while shit on the street while smell like it?

>>9773369
hey, we have a pretty good airsoft community here. Which kind of overlarps with the larping community in some places but ultimately it's not a driving force.
So pointing out the nice things you have won't change a thing.

>>9773387
>The requirement for Orcs is to just smear some green on your face. It ends up looking like the player took an Ogreload.
We went through that phase more than 10 years ago. Greenface stuff is only mentioned now as jokes (and there are maybe a handful of retard who take it seriously)

>>9773845
we can post pictures and there is one anon who put together a good greek costume but haven't seen him in ages.

Also, back to the awful monster and other kits in the US.
You know guys what is one of the saddest thing there? I mean there are at least twenty very sad thing about it but what I'm talking about is that they clearly have the money to put together a decent costume.

Back when I was only started larping the quality was similar and we would have killed for boots like the guy on the right >>9773072
had, hell most of us were young, without money and couldn't even put together stuff like the two guys on the left had.

So we had to work around it, and I'm kind of happy that we managed to get where we are.
And in the meanwhile, you guys who had ALL the possibilities, resources, shops, people, rentable places and whatnot to get even better. You guys just stayed in the shitter, non the wiser that there is a way to make things better.
THEN when the internet thing actually kicked in and you could easily share information with anyone from the world, when you were actually wiser to know that there are stuff better out there, when you knew where to look, who to ask...
Then you guys stayed in the shitter still saying "yeah, this is good enough, this will be our home"

Let's face it: US larps won't change in the forseable future

>>9773845
LARP or reenactment? The two most import things are quite easy for larp.

#1: The Chiton. Its a big rectange and two fibulea. Get some nice linen and be sure to wrap fully. Pic related. You can wear it on one, or both shoulders. If you're worried about modesty, you can sew half way up the open side to close off the skirt (I do this for my wrestling Chiton).

#2 is the Aspis. The iconic shield is super easy to make for larps, as you can get a large plastic snow-sledding disk and face it with foam/platidip. Its 90% of the defense of a Greek/Etruscan anyways, so invest in making it nice. https://www.amazon.com/Snow-Sled-Saucer-Heavy-Duty/dp/B00HGJ0UIU

After that, get a weapon. In order of importance is spear, sword and dagger. From there, invest in a helmet, then greaves and only finally body protection.

Obviously, a good pair of leather sandals is also a must.

>>9773930
Im sorry, I don't speak borscht.

>>9773848
Honestly, I think the best way to do magic is to write a system that just says what you can do, but doesn't have any restrictions on how to do it. Don't make a separate "skill tree" or whatever for magic. If you, for instance, want to craft a sword, it doesn't matter game-wise if you play out blacksmithing or spend an equal amount of time playing out transmuting rocks or having a weapon grow from a nearby tree.

>>9773427
Is that a tree with tits next to the woman?

>>9774000
Yes, probably. Dryad war-form or ent-mother maybe?

So I'm putting together a character based on early Teutonic Knights, such as pic related, and while I can sort out arms and armour, I'm unsure about softkit outside of the armour. Does anyone here know what clothes an early Teutonic knight would wear about town?

>>9774042
Wouldn't an early Teutonic knight be 12th century rather than 14th?

>>9774043
You know you're right, in my head I was thinking early, turns out I meant late, somewhere around after the norman style kite shields but a bit before the introduction of brigandine

>>9774050
Just asked a mate of mine who knows more about it. All I can guess would be rather simple tunics with some slight heraldry or decorations but nothing too far fetched.

>>9774053
Don't forget to add in gores, focus on correct usage of materials since it's all rather simplistic.

So please don't use cotton (although you would be the most likely group of people to use Arabian import fabrics) lining tunics is a great way to give them extra depth as well. Unjoined hosen and braies would be your go to pants. Maybe look into working on stuff like good footwear, nälebinding for your socks etc.

Also coifs. Please don't forget your linnen coif.

I can't stress gores enough as well. Please use gores.

>>9774042
Inverse the colours and change the cross a little and you're golden.

>>9773941
I wonder what cam be done. Clearly there exist those of us who would like to adhere to a strict costuming standard. Perhaps it's just a matter of organising and putting in place a group that actually holds itself to a high standard. There seem to be more and more good larps popping up around The US and Canada, but most of the local ganes are infested with fat women and/or furries. Pic related is from Bicolline in Quebec.

>>9774096
I would believe you if I weren't a sarcastic little fuck and if I wouldn't hear this a thousand times already

>>9774123
It's almost like it's a slow process bro. Come on.

>>9774134
yeah, in this case it's at least 20 years or more if we look at how things go

>>9774140
I don't have a great eye on how things are going right now. I'm only a Dutch fag who hears the ocassional stuff coming through over 4Chan but how credible would this be?

It's only part of the people you hear talking about it. Heck, if I'd have looked at what people we're doing 10 years ago 'round here... and even some groups still do today I'd have said we were hopeless.

But with a bit of effort, a lot of good luck everything can change. So here's hoping for the best.

>>9774143
just look at the pictures from 10 years ago and now. Yeah there will be a few good games there always are a few games. But the huge majority is still like >>9773072
The only difference is that now that you can easily order from online people have SOMETIMES latex weapons or a better accessory.
And in the meantime the rules are still as shit as ever because nobody addressed the core problems

>>9774151
I think it's partially zeitgeist as well. The current LARP mood all together is a lot less geek-nerdy and comes far closer to a lot of people bringing together their creative hobbies. Atleast, in my experience as a young LARPer. I can't speak about how it was in the olden times, although I did play with a pretty 90's styled event and it was fun as well.

It just felt a lot more like real-life DnD than anything else though.

And maybe, just maybe, this zeigeist will strike in the US as well. And if it doesn't, well I guess that means the majority of people is still having fun this way. And although I'd like to, in the end, I don't feel honest judging people having fun.

>>9774151
You are right about the core problem; shit systems. Most of these games want to reward the players by "leveling up" which means increasing their hit points, giving them new abilities and generally making them harder to kill. I also feel that most of the fantasy themed larps have a hard time deciding on a setting and sticking to it. For instance >>9773072 is from a group called "Legacies" which, reading their fluff, seems like a pretty decent setting with established races. In practice, players are allowed to created their own races which opens the flood gates to furfaggotry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ETgsC-ISjM is a documentary about them.

>>9773072
This ... looks like a team monster group? As in, random people that would normally do PC volunteer to play monsters. The things is, American very in size ... a lot. We have auschwitz mode players and we have players so fat they can barely fight for longer than 15 mins. But both of those body types need to volunteer to be monster to help us make the larp fun. The only way to have a goo costume pool for that is by having people bring plain black clothes and wear a mask ... so yeah, that is low standard for a pc but high standard for team monster.

>>9773997
I agree, more or less. My ideal magic system would be all about preserving the mysticism of it, and be drawn more from knowing things than doing things--along the lines of Gandalf or Granny Weatherwax--so a wizard or witch PC would function basically like anybody else outside of combat, and their magic itself would be very impromptu and unreliable.

The problem with that in the US is that people like their skill tree systems too much to give them up. So I'm trying to wean players off of relying on "skills" and "leveling up" gradually by making systems where stats are less and less important, rather than getting rid of them all at once. I think a lot of players like the idea of a game where real skill is more important than stats, they're just reluctant to let go of their sacred cows, so you have to trick them into realizing that those things aren't necessary to have fun.

>>9774206
>shit systems
Personally, I like the philosophy that I see getting more popular of "level up outward, not upward." If you have to have a system with leveling and skills, instead of jacking up numbers and letting PCs become gods, I think the best option is to have players learn stuff that gives them more options, more breadth of experience to draw on, rather than letting them be lazy because they have 400 hit points.
>I also feel that most of the fantasy themed larps have a hard time deciding on a setting and sticking to it.
Fucking this, all of this. It seems like the only games I can find are zombie apocalypse DR clones, or "fantasy but it's post-apocalyptic so there's also technology and robots and any mutant race you want to play" which just looks like shit because it has no unifying aesthetic.

>>9774259
People need to be in better shape. It's really not that hard to lose some weight, speaking as someone who did it. The bigger problems are visible in the youtube documentary i posted; Ogreload facepaint and furfaggotry.

>>9773410
>pacific northwest
Where exactly? /norcal/ here

>>9774311
the obsiety issue is closed tied to the core of US Larping, outcasts sticking together. even with the whole "geek is chique" push, larp is still considered weird and not socially acceptable. Most people look at you weird if you mention it. so, outcasts stick to it because they too are weird. it's dnd in the 90s. my hope is that it evolves like dnd did, where tons of normies play dnd now.

>>9774320
Seattle area.
>>9774327 another problem is that most of the people who would be interested in larping participate in boffer-combat with no role-playing, like Dagorhir. There are 4 chapters of Dagorhir in this state alone.

>>9773845
Ancient Greek and Roman are some of the easiest and most comfortable historical clothing to make. If I get back into SCA I plan on making a peplos or ionic chiton for summer events.

>>9774050
I'd suggest getting The Medieval Tailor s Assistant if your interested in making your own clothing. It should be all pretty simple patterning and sewing.

I don't have any new historical stuff to share but I recently finished a (not historically accurate) French Hood for a client and I'm pretty proud of the beadwork. Any interest?

>>9774361
I would like to see it.

>>9773950
>I do this for my wrestling Chiton
I am now imagining you covered in olive oil, grappling young men while wearing only a chiton. I am at least a little gay now.

>>9774389
.... Anon, get some help.

>>9774259
>But both of those body types need to volunteer to be monster to help us make the larp fun
and that's where you are wrong. The organizers could make the larp in a way that it wont be needed.

Also please, I'm pretty sure it's possible to put together better cloths than that if you are actually trying. I even have a few loner cloths that I could lend to nearly everyone.

>>9774206
if I never larped ever that video would make me think it's some kind of therapy session

>>9774395
It's ok, anon would have to fight that anon who wants clownfag to be her(?) Mr. Darcy.

>>9774395
>>9774413
Stop crushing my dreams.

>>9774206
>During this underground battle, a player's character of 7 years died during combat. This is something rare and tragic in the larping world and was so emotional that the players asked for it not to be filmed.

Anon... I am without words... in english. So let me introduce you a hungarian phrase:
Azt a kurva büdös bazdmeg....

I mean it's not a big surprise, we are joking about this all the time, but still kind of unexpected.

>>9774424
"Kurva" ah, I see you are a man of culture as wel.

>>9774423
No. I'm sorry, your dreams are unhealthy for a p.g. 18+ event. We don't want to harm anybody's tender heart and soul.

>>9774413
Please don't give the man any ideas. I don't want our next Drachenfest to have a mudwrestling pit over who gets to honk the Clown's horn.

>>9774361
Interested as well.
Although I'd have to say, a t-tunic hardly requires the TMTA. All you need to know is to add G O R E S.

>>9774206
And then people wonder why you usually don't feel like telling people at work that you LARP.

The problem many amerilarps have is that they try to represent too difficult things. If you don't have orc masks, don't send in orks. If you don't have the time to realistically facepaint undead, don't send in any. And ESPECIALLY don't try shit like ants or bug-people with coloured tabards.

I mean, every larp will have some armoury for monsters. It's not that hard to buy a couple of generic masks, prosthetics and stuff. You can even add a bunch of full-face helmets/masks and stuff: if a group of five people with elf ears and five people with full-face helmets come up, people see ten elves. Send in five orcs and the same five helmeted people, people see ten orcs.

>>9774430
>I don't want our next Drachenfest to have a mudwrestling pit over who gets to honk the Clown's horn.
you think those people would go to Drachenfest and then wrestle about some unimportant shit like that when they can wrestle about whether rosso verdi the best or the greatest

>"Kurva" ah, I see you are a man of culture as wel.
I would say this is the only common thing in every eastern european country, that they can use the word kurva or even build up whole sentences with it. Not even alcohol brings us that close to each other (because there would be stabbings about what counts as proper alcohol and how should you make one)

>>9774447
>because there would be stabbings
You could've stopped there desu. Just the moment alcohol is involved there will be stabbings and family feuds. And maybe a romantic kidnapping Romeo and Juliette style.

They would be cousins though. The ages would fit the play though.

>whether
How do you mean whether!? It's a common fact. What are you, a blu-marone in disguise!?

>>9774451
I mean stabbing before the drinking starts

And the rosso verdi thing was just a test if there are any blu-marone spies among us. Of course rosso verdi is the best AND the greatest

>>9774367
>>9774430
It's too match a Lolita print with a stained glass design so I tried to replicate that a bit with beads and gold lace. For those interested the reason it's not historically accurate (other then fabric and trim) is the "headband" part should wrap all the way around the head and it should have a opaque black veil or fabric lined gold hair net attached.

>>9774413
>>9774423
..... Anons stop. Such cringe

>>9774430
>Although I'd have to say, a t-tunic hardly requires the TMTA. All you need to know is to add G O R E S.
Yeah I was thinking the book would be needed more for the hose. Not adding gores.. gives me the shudders thinking of the wrinkles and binding on the armpits.

>>9774471
Sounds pretty damn good. As a man I gotta say, I've never been the craftiest kid. Quite clumsy really.

But those beads, how do you get them on in a nice pattern? Was thinking of making a simplified version of Fernando de la Cerda's cap for after my in-game knighting.

>>9774474
Thank you!

I can't really tell what's going on with the Lions and other figures but for the obvious and larger beads this is the technique I'd use. You need two needles and thread. One is attached to the fabric where you want the beads to start. String on this as many beads as needed to fill the "line" your adding. The second thread and needles is used to sew over the first thread in between each bead (called couching). You can also do this with Single needle and thread when you get better at estimating how many beads you need to fill a section.

>>9774500
Sounds like I'll need to work up some mental barriers in patience before starting on it, but a challenge nontheless!
And I love challenges. Thanks for the info, I'll post some WiP when I start. This thread could do with more WiPs.

>>9774042
You're in luck. The 12th-13th centuries are perhaps the single easiest era to portray in terms of armor and clothing. Men and women's clothing is not only high similar in structure, but equally untailored. It's loose fitting robes, supertunics, and wraps made of either rich fabrics or sporting ornate designs- depending on location, wealth, and period.

fucking phony ass geeks. Stop roleplaying you fake weeabo shitters and fight in a real war instead of playing dress up and slap boxing. have a bit of RISK in your life ffs.

Inb4 new people don't know Soup. Don't respond to Soup, don't engage in shittalking even if you think it's funny. Because you'll be a bother to the rest of us.

Be the poster HLF wants you to be. A not annoying one. (Who supports Rosso Verdi.)

>>9774527
>Rosso Verdi.
only a nerd would know who or what that is. I know you were trying to set up a joke but it fell short like you irl HAHAHA (see my joke is easily understandable). Now you try you fucking geek.

>>9774518
While I know you're a troll, a guy in my area once got his leg snapped and fully dislocated in a war once. This isn't a safe hobby, and it's why we throw down thousands of dollars on armor.

>>9774554
Tbh, as another LARPer... please stop making a fool of yourself. LARPing is in no way close to dangerous.

>>9774559
SCA is a bit different. There is certainly greater risk for injury than with foam latex weapons.

>>9774564
Yeah, and it's still not that dangerous. Please stop being a latex or rattan warrior.

>>9774559
You know what I agree with the anon on top of you. LARPING is srs business and people get hurt all the time. I suppose there is a risk involve with LARPING. Please don't call that anon a fucking retarded pos just because you don't agree with him thanks.

>>9774567
Woah there bud you calm tf down. don't be an elitist now by making fun of the outfit which he uses to LARP in. If you keep going down this road sooner or later us LARPers would be no better than those snobby lolitas... it's one thing to disagree with him, but don't bring in the gears he use to LARP in my dude.

>>9774511
well if you want to do something that needs slightly less patience but still somehow similar then you can sewing around of holes for laces. And I mean properly.
On pic: kind of properly when I was just getting the hang of it.

>>9774567
I'm with this anon. Larping isn't dangerous. Nor is Hema or reenactment if you aren't a mouth breathing moron.

>>9773845
costumes guide for making your own on a budget:

http://tutorials.abbott.me.uk/odyssey/greece

>>9774572
my dude over there knows a guy that leg snapped and fully dislocated in a war once. How can you say LARPING isn't dangerous? Does someone have to die before you consider it dangerous?

>>9774572
>I'm with this anon. Larping isn't dangerous. Nor is Hema or reenactment if you aren't a mouth breathing moron.
It is dangerous when you get several hundred/1,000+ people onto a single field and throw them at each other. Even with safety instruction, shit happens. My locale is full of stories of broken bones, dislocated joints, and again guy who got his knee bent 90 degrees in the wrong direction.

(Long story short, his foot got caught when a shieldwall clashed with another shieldwall. He couldn't move his leg, and the rank behind him shoved his first rank forward. So his leg got fucked up.

That and I'm pretty sure we hit hard enough with the clubs to actually cause serious damage if you weren't wearing armor. I sure as fuck wouldn't fight with anything less than 14 gauge.

>>9774582
Yeah, if I throw a 1000+ people onto a pitch and just tell them to run off a hill you'd be surprised by the ridiculous amounts of ways people will break their bones on mole hills or just sheer clumsiness.

Please, no one will think you're cool. Stop it.

>>9774582
it's okay anon hungarian LARPers are known in the LARPING community to be huge pussies. What we consider as LARPING is like real war to them.

>>9774582
meh, accidents happen, and a few guys out of thousands isn't really a danger in my book. I mean people get broken bones just by walking on the icy pavement during winter, that does not make walking dangerous.

>>9774592
Uh walking on icy pavement is dangerous though... baka tbqh

So the SCA community blew up today due to Nazi symbolism. So that's nice.

>>9775074
like proper nazi symbolism or "nazi" symbolism that was used more than a thousand years before them in different continents?

>>9774000
Yeah. What are you, some sort of fag who doesn't like tree tits?

>>9774096
>Perhaps it's just a matter of organising and putting in place a group that actually holds itself to a high standard.

Been doing that for years. Its like pulling teeth. You end up with small, but dedicated groups. Getting new blood is hard, as they see it as "elites", even when loaner gear and craft nights are offered.

> Pic related is from Bicolline in Quebec.
Everyone here knows Bico

>>9774361
>Ancient Greek and Roman are some of the easiest and most comfortable historical clothing to make. If I get back into SCA I plan on making a peplos or ionic chiton for summer events.

I got documentation for all sorts of social classes wearing chitons and tunics.... In 1480's Italy. Not just for carnival either, but labourers too! In Modo Antiquo strikes again!

Spent most of my last Pennsic in chitons and sandals. No regerts.

>>9774389
You can strigil the oil off me later.

>>9774395
>>9774430
Don't kinkshame anon!

>>9774424
Its autism. Pure and simple.

>>9774471
>Dat Hood
GODDAMN.

>>9774474
>>9774511
Thats a sexy hat anon. Pics will be required.

>>9774559
>>9774567
>>9774572
He's probably referring to what you'd call "scrum injury". Twisted ankles, knee injuries etc, caused by terrain, an mass-person pileups. I highly doubt he's talking ACL/HMB style injuries which is also not as common as one may think

>>9775078
It's a good deal more complicated than that.

To preface, we have a flat rule about zero tolerance or usage of swastikas, no matter the period or culture. We are a not-for-profit educational organization, and cannot risk any association whatsoever. Furthermore as of late we have been seeing a rise in our country of Neo-Nazi and fascist groups not only marching and protesting, but committing violent crimes and even killing people. In their public displays they have been carrying medieval shields and of course wearing such symbols. This has been a hard time for medieval recreation.

Several months ago, the upcoming president of a multi-state branch commissioned three meters of the 5th century Snartemo V trim. At the time of its production many people raised concerns over the fact that the design not only resembles swastika is but also contains double H designs commonly used by Neo-Nazi and fascist groups. When these concerns were mentioned the president and the Weaver made derisive comments, as well as the Weaver making a joke about "rainbow-colored genocide".

Several months later, the president and his wife at a very public event or Garb with the trim in question. There are now photos of the leadership of a branch of our club during this time, wearing swastikas and double H symbols. The event also happened to coincide with Holocaust Remembrance Day.

Obviously, this caused a bit of a public up roar. In response to this the president in question released a public statement that was a non apology about people being offended. This is what brought it to corporate attention.

What this all boils down to is not only did they handle this in a very tasteless fashion, but they knew that this was going to be a problem and continued anyways.

They have since voluntarily abdicated the leadership position.

>>9775123
man, people should really calm their tits in the US

>>9775133
When you have violent Nazis, zero tolerance is the only option.

>>9775135
I get what you're talking about, but I couldn't help but snigger about the "zero tolerance is the only option" part of your sentence.

>>9775136
Why? If you see a Nazi, you get rid of them. I got personal reasons to really dislike Nazis, and they are showing up where I live.

>>9775141
>inb4 Popper principle
But no, indicating you have zero tolerance to political freedom to an extent doesn't come across as somewhat funny?

>>9775136
Don't be that guy, anon.

>>9775142
I have zero tolerance for those who want me dead on principle and. Is that a problem?

>>9775142
Its not political freedom. Its an ideology that killed 70% of my family, and actively want to undermine our society.

>>9775145
Jew, Rom, or gay?

>>9775142
Put your name back on, Soup.

>>9775147
Gay Jew. If I was dating a black Muslim, I would get bingo.

>>9775147
Unless acted upon they deserve as much right to their opinion as you should. Stupid as it might be. Unless they actively break public law by statements the mere idea should not be illegal as not to cause a slippery slope the other way around.

I get that you have personal feelings on the subject. But denying people their right for debate, as long as it is peacefully and adhering to laws is wrong in of it self. The dude fellow with the Swastika trim was an absolute memelord and trimming him away from the organization is the only right move to do.

And even though I do not agree with them, I do allow them the same rights as any opposition party.

But let's stop on this note before this whole thread turns into /pol/ bait.

>>9775150
You win.

>>9775151
>Unless acted upon they deserve as much right to their opinion as you should.

By publicly going out and identifying you are a Nazi, protesting as a Nazi, and involving your ideology in politics and society, you are acting upon it. Nazi's lost the protection of social contract. Full stop. End of story.

>>9775135
>violent Nazis
that word is as overused as faggot on 4chan.
I mean I get it, you want to bash people why also feeling morally superior but that's what plain old racism was invented for.

>>9775154
>Nazi's lost the protection of social contract
so is communists. Should we shank every kid who wears a Che Guevara shirt?

>>9775159
>That word is as overused
No, I mean like, there is actually assaults and murders happening under the flag of the modern Alt Right and Neo Fascism.

>>9775159
>Should we shank every kid who wears a Che Guevara shirt?
Yes, but not for politics. I have yet to meet a single person who wear a Che shirt that isn't a total and utter tool.

>>9775154
Point is that the guidelines on half the Nazism claims are iffy. If this truely were the fact, then why are they allowed to protest?

On the Charlottesville picture you posted I don't see Nazi symbolism f.e.

Furthermore, what you're saying is a falsehood and I can present you the case of National Socialist Party of America vs Skokie.

>>9775161
And the same is happening under every political flag in America because you lot managed the dumbest two party system with little to no nuance.

>>9775159
It's not an exaggeration. We are actually having Nazis shoot up churches and drive cars into crowds of protesters.

>>9775161
>No, I mean like, there is actually assaults and murders happening under the flag of the modern Alt Right and Neo Fascism.
gypsies murder, rape and assault people here. Some people want to exterminate them for this.
Just saying.

>>9775168
Look, I completely understand that some people do that, I also understand that people form the political left spectrum do that too.
So it's either killing everyone or just going back to hate people on an individual basis.
I'm up for both

>>9775168
Yes and we have Lucas John Helder and James T. Hodgkins to name a few of the opposing groups criminals.

You do not stop this by outright banning and martyring their political leaders but by opening debate and fighting "fake news" and populism with factuality.

>>9775164
>Crossed Fasces
>Not a Neo Nazi symbol.
>Trying to defend Nazis

So, you're a Nazi? Got it.

>>9775173
this thread went to places...

>>9775173
I'm defending free speech of people with an opinion I don't share because denying them that right is against my political beliefs. The Popper principle is a good counter argument but to this extent, and although I don't know the full case, I dare up hold it in generality.... No. Calling people with differing opinions a Nazi seems like some low shot.

Not everybody you dislike is a Nazi. I'm a Christian Democrat, but I support their right to say things I disagree with as long they do not act on it. It is up to the high court to decide wether it was hate mongering or people voicing their opinion on things that might be wrong with the country in their eyes.

Please stop silencing people out fear, how well placed it might be. It makes you no better than them.

>>9775169
I don't know how it is in Hungary, in Czech Republic our Gypsy crime was always inflated to take blame and give people an enemy. The poverty and crime there is was caused by years of oppressing like the blacks in United States.

>>9775169
I have so many arguments and statistics about the Rom of Eastern Europe and the actual crime rate of the cultural/social group, but you don't care, and I won't waste my time.

>>9775177
If you defend people who are actively presenting themselves as Nazi's, then you by extent are at least a sympathizer. There is no moral, logical or ethical reason to ever defend Nazis.

If it honks like a goose, walks like a goose, and defends NSM/NFM/NNM, I'll call it like I see it.

>>9775178
I'm not saying other people aren't doing this, hell, probably there are more white people doing that because numbers.
Still, it's a fact that there are several people with deep hatred against gypsies. Some with a base for it, a lot without it.

>>9775179
I have statistics too, but they are in the car right now and it's raining.
Also it seems kind of funny to me how this thread was about the US larps at the begining and now the discussion is basically how I imagine US larps go.

>>9775177
It is easy to see why one would call someone who argues for Nazis a Nazi tbqh.

>>9775179
Yeah, I guess there's no coming through to a person with as strong a view as you're upholding. I just want to say that by the absolutes in which you deal you're really lowering yourself to their standards. And I completely understand why, I'm much less at a threat by their hands as you are.

I'd like you to know I'm not trying to defend the Nazi's themselves, as much as I'm trying to defend the constitutional rights I believe every human deserves. Even those who wish to deny others those.

>>9775178
>Gypsy crime was always inflated to take blame and give people an enemy.
>The poverty and crime there is was caused by years of oppressing

Yeah, its funny how that works.

>>9775180
>Some with a base for it, a lot without it.

But how much of that base is purely societal construct? Hating because you're told to hate? All the way back to Rom being alien nomads who have a different culture, and thus are a good scapegoat. This makes people lash out, which makes them have to do whatever they can to survive, which makes people lash out more and so on and so forth.

>>9775182
> I'm trying to defend the constitutional rights I believe every human deserves.

Noble, but these are people who refuse the social contact. If you refuse to participate, you do not get to benefit.

>>9775187
I understand your point. But I feel you're stroking too broadly. Freedom goes further than to those I like and dislike, and tolerance is not something you extend to those you like but rather to those you dislike. And that takes a wholly different train of thought.

You will not root out Nazism by banning them or saying they broke the social contract by their actions. Not every voice of dissent automatically breaks the unspoken bond between them and society.

Criminal activity does to an extent. But they aren't all engaged in that. Just like not all Muslims are ISIS members, and not all Roma are tourist looters.

The second problem we get is, what /is/ Nazism. When does somebody actively support the murdering of innocents based on race-politics? Is it when they're hoisting a Confederate flag?

Are they even doing so when actively wearing a swastika? The voices on all of those things dissent, and I can't give you a true answer or my answer for that matter because it's all up to nuance. In my opinion painting with broad strokes will only lead to a bigger divide.

>>9775187
>But how much of that base is purely societal construct? Hating because you're told to hate? All the way back to Rom being alien nomads who have a different culture, and thus are a good scapegoat. This makes people lash out, which makes them have to do whatever they can to survive, which makes people lash out more and so on and so forth.

you try to get very academical when a few posts about you couldn't differentiate between a symbol of fascism and a symbol of nazism.

But here is the bottom line for me: I hate people individually. Sure I have preconceptions but everyone has. And I won't care what kind of problems a certain group face if the individual is an asshole to me.
Hell, I can be pretty much be a friend with a nazi, communist, gypsy or even with a politician if the individual is a cool enough dude.

But what I see from you right now that you hate the group, not the individuals. And for that you are an idiot in my eyes.

>>9775188
>A they even doing so when actively wearing a swastika?
Not Gropey, but I know Charlottesville they were carrying Nazi flags. They we're also were giving Nazi salutes and chanting "Blood and Soil" and other Nazi party slogans.

>>9775192
The US as Fascist, Socialist, and Republic Nazi movements, Hungary-kun.

>>9775194
If you want to meddle in semantics, it's pretty much impossible to have an American Nazi party in of itself.

And if you have a Nazi party that uses Mussolini's idealism it'd be another ugly baby that should've never been born. This is just as bad as anarcho meme-i-calism and all the ugly offspring that ideolgy had.

So guys, let's talk about things that unite us (our hate for American LARPers, and actual LARPing) rather than what divides us (eveything else, including LARPing)!

How about some WiP shots? I just finished this very loose interpretation of the Skjoldehamn tunic. (A.k.a. it's a t-tunic with a fancy name.)

Made out of thick wool and a linnen lining inside it might not be the most extravagant thing but it's comfy af.

>>9775198
well, in the previous thread I posted how my waffenrock looks right now but there were a few WIP pics that I didn't posted yet.

>>9775203
nearly 5 meters of wool went into the skirt part

>>9775188
>Not every voice of dissent automatically breaks the unspoken bond between them and society.

No, but saying "We are actively trying to oppress and subjugate others, and take over the country" is pretty clear.

>Just like not all Muslims are ISIS members, and not all Roma are tourist looters.

But now you're comparing race and religion to political ideology. Thanks are good Rom and bad Rom. There are good Muslims and bad Muslims. There is only one kind of Nazi.

>The second problem we get is, what /is/ Nazism. When does somebody actively support the murdering of innocents based on race-politics?

Thankfully, it's not hard to define, because they are more than happy to let you know.

>Is it when they're hoisting a Confederate flag?

That's mostly disenfranchised, uneducated rural whites looking for someone to blame. Sadly, this is a pool that the worse groups can draw from.

>Are they even doing so when actively wearing a swastika?

Unless you got a part in "the Sound of Music", there are very few reasons to wear an actual Nazi swastika.

>>9775192
>
you try to get very academical when a few posts about you couldn't differentiate between a symbol of fascism and a symbol of nazism.

All six Nazi parties use it as a regular symbol in the US.

You've never been attacked by them. Back home, we had a building we used as an American Romani cultural center. Us and the local Jewish Temple would get defaced all the time, but eventually someone set our building on fire.

We don't have a cultural hate of Room here like you do. This was very specific and they would send anonymous letters threatening and taking credit.

I hate all Nazis. You can think it's stupid, but until you've been systematically attacked purely for your race or culture, you'll never understand.

>>9775195
>If you want to meddle in semantics, it's pretty much impossible to have an American Nazi party in of itself.

And yet it exists, along with margarine, tofurky, and other abominations.

>>9775198
>>9775203
>>9775204
Ironically, I have a bolt of emerald green wool on the way to make a waffenrock. I also ordered a few extra yards to see if we can't make matching wams happen.

Otherwise, i have recently added sea sponges, and latex maggots to me medical kit.

>>9775210
aaaand forgot my pic.

>>9775206
well, my bad on the symbole, I honestly wasn't aware of that.

And while it's true that I wasn't attacked simply because of my culture, my family was attacked plenty because of what my grandfather did. He took part in a rebellion against the soviets back in '56 and obviously the soviets and communists wasn't happy about it, even decades later, they punished every family like this, basically put a number sequence on everyone's "social security number" (well, the equivalent of that) who born to a family like that. So I think I have a slight idea.

>>9775206
I will give it to you, that you are one of the few people here to have carte blanche on the zero-nazi-tolerance stance.

>>9775213
And if the commies start rousing shit, you'll stand the fuck up and join in putting a stop to that nonsense, won't you?

>>9775218
as I said I hate people individually. I won't try to grind all of them into the Danube just because they say they are communists.
Sure i would think they are mouth-breathing retards at first, but that's not enough to start outright exterminating them all.

I'm a little upset that anyone here would argue in favor of Neo-Nazis.

>>9775240
thoughts and prayers anon

>>9775246
Too late for my family who didn't make it. Both my grandparents still have their tattoos clear as day.

>>9775240
Nazis are still humans anon. Espescially modern ones, they're more often misled than not. Stop letting your own hurt be a reason to inflict it upon others.

>>9775256
Actually, they are a form of fungus. Fuck Nazis.

>>9775259
you are thinking of orcs anon

>>9775260
No, orcs are a people horribly twisted by the foul machinations of a dark lord.

Nazis are scum.

>>9775261
wh40k orcs are a form of fungus

>>9775261
>No, orcs are a people horribly twisted by the foul machinations of a dark lord.

This sounds like a better description of nazi's than fungi....

>>9775265
Modern Nazi's choose their evil.

>>9775266
Everything is a choice and can be accounted to the individual anon. On being misled, what if the fella lost his house, lost his job, etc. and he's being told that it's the Jews their fault and he's promised riches.

It'll take the blame off of him and he can work away the cognitive dissonance that befits what's happening and his outlook on himself.

This is literally being misled.

>>9775267
>t. Nazi Apologist

>>9775267
I like to approach this from the opposite site.

When someone has blind hatred to any kind of group, be it niggers, nazis, jews, politicans, whatever they like to think that everonye who belongs to that group is the worst thing that happened since sliced bread, they are literal scums, not even human, etc.

I mean it would be hard to hate someone this much if you realize they are just like you but made different choices through their life. People really doesn't want to accept the fact that this could be them, or that they could became like this easily.

>>9775281
YOU ARE LITERALLY COMPARING NAZIS TO RACES.

>>9775284
the great race of politicians...
Although I thought jews are more of a religion and niggers aren't a race according to a lot of SJWs but good that we cleared that up.

Hey /pol/, check out these videos of our old group in Florida back in thge heyday.

https://youtu.be/6ErPnlaygUU
https://youtu.be/DRyeA-ad7JI

Those of you that make chainmail for LARP, do you bother welding or riveting the links, or do you just make butted mail? It doesn't seem that riveting is really necessary for combat with foam and latex.

>>9775366
It's not necessary safetywise. Not in the least.

Although, if you're thinking of making it and want to go through the bother of riveting it... please do.

I got my first chainmail butted and now that I'm leaning to a more accurate side of things I'm really annoyed with my earlier choices.

>>9774511
Go for it!

>>9774572
>you can sewing around of holes for laces. And I mean properly.
There is just something so satisfying about sewing proper lacing holes. Nice!

>>9775118
>I got documentation for all sorts of social classes wearing chitons and tunics.... In 1480's Italy. Not just for carnival either, but labourers too! In Modo Antiquo strikes again!
I want that documentation! If I ever make it to Pennsic I want comfy times!

>>9775198
Looks comfy

>>9775203
>>9775204
Mmm yes that full skirt! Tell me the truth Hungarian. Did you spin around and do a twirl when you first put it on? I don't think I could resist haha!

>>9775211
I appreciate the flatlay and lighting for this photo!

>The rest of this thread
Nope

>>9775422
Dropped trip

>>9775422
>Did you spin around and do a twirl when you first put it on
If he didn't I'm not sure how human he truely is.... As a small burly man who finished his Italian Ren. Houppelande not too long ago, it looks fab.

>>9775211
Thats bitchin', Gropalope. Can you give us a tour?

>>9775135
What happy days we live in. I thought I was born too late to fight for American glory, and then the Nazis want to return to play.

Great Grandad would be so happy.

>>9775422
>Mmm yes that full skirt! Tell me the truth Hungarian. Did you spin around and do a twirl when you first put it on? I don't think I could resist haha!
my girlfriend was the first with that, but yeah I did it too

>>9775486
Is your girlfriend the Trossfrau in I think blue and red you posted in the last thread? One of the only girls you posted several pictures from IIRC?

Because I saw her post on FB on the DF group. Slowly getting closer to truely fanboying you.

>>9775529
yes, she is, although I posted several pic about other girls too (they just didn't had the same outfit)

>>9775135
>people assemble to protest their genocide
>just want to make speeches and state their case
>literally beaten in the streets
>get arrested if they fight back
Your hypocrisy is almost unbelievable. Antifa starts all of the violence at these rallies. We just want to speak our message without getting bombarded with bricks and piss bottles. We literally beg for peace every time.

t. """"""""""violent Nazi"""""""""""

>>9775366
I went with butted mail because, like you said, there's no real safety concern with foam weapons, and also because I knew I was buying a cheap poorly-fitted hauberk and would need to modify it. If you're on a budget and you think that'll be good enough, butted is fine. However, if you have the cash/willpower for it, I recommend riveted. It's stronger, more historical, and nicer looking.

>>9775908
Yeah, I'd really like to have a hauberk of rivited mail, but I'm not sure how time-intensive it is. Surely punching holes in, heating wire, and pounding it flat through both sides of each ring would take forever. I have made a bit of butted mail before, and I know that I can crank that out fairly quickly. Do you have any experience with riveting mail?

>>9775895
>people assemble to protest their genocide

>>9775920
I don't, sorry. Butted is all I've worked with so far.

>>9775895

Guys, we've finally managed to get discussion back on track, be the better man and stop derailing it again.

>>9775422
>I want that documentation! If I ever make it to Pennsic I want comfy times!

Next time im on the comp, I'll send it on facebook. Not that anyone really needs it as its fine to wear ancient Greek as it is. I just like keeping in my focused time frame.

>I appreciate the flatlay and lighting for this photo!

I am a sucker for good composition.

>>9775429
>Skull
For Skull related needs.
>Bottle of white vinegar
The universal antimalignant for cleaning tools and wounds.
>Bottle of whole cloves soaked in clove oil
Mild oral analgesic
>Bottle of powdered alum
Antihemorrhagic styptic
>Gullypot of salve (covered with waxed linen)
An antibiotic ointment for minor wounds.
>Two empty gully pots
for now
>Latern
With what for seeing
>Uroscopy flask
Exactly what you think its for.
>Bowl with sea sponges
For either soaking up blood, or washing it off.
>Mirror
So I can show you whats wrong
>Slide box
For small grooming tools
>Horn Comb
>Brass tweezers
>Brass Earspoon/nail pic combo
>Brass mortar and pistil
For compounding
>Licorice roots
For tooth care
>Amputation saw
It'll cost you an arm and a leg
>Various linen bandages
>Leather strap
Many uses! In this case, usually a tourniquet.
>Shears
>Forceps
>Scalpel
>Retractor
>Probe hook
>Cautery/Blistering iron
>Notebook and quill

To be added is a jar for my latex maggots, a jar for my latex leeches, a reproduction shaving razor, an arrow spoon, and to make more period medicines.

Pic is the maggots. They are actually halloween decor that came with fake earthworms. I bought a bunch on discount for both using the maggots in my medical kit, as well as using the maggots, worms and green slime in modified cascarone (italian confetti eggs) for use as goblin magic.

>>9775895
>people assemble to protest their genocide
>We just want to speak our message
>We literally beg for peace every time.

Have you tried /not/ being a Nazi?

>>9775965
I think having actual Nazi's present in our hobby is kind of important to discuss.

>>9775920
I really would not advise a completely DIY riveted shirt to start with. It's would be a hideous amount of work to do from scratch. If you want riveted then you could buy loose rings (both solid and riveted links will save time compared to all riveted and is the more common historical design) and assemble them yourself, although depending on where you buy the rings the money you save compared to buying a complete shirt might be marginal and not worth to assembly time. I love riveted but for your first shirt, either cheap and cheerful butted or buying a complete riveted shirt and adjusting it is better. A home-made riveted hauberk can be something to work towards, starting off with test squares and then smaller items such as skirts or pizons/standards before tackling a complete shirt.

One of the big advantages of making, or at least assembling, your own mail is that you can fit and tailor properly. It's more historical, looks better, allows better range of movement in the arms and saves weight by not having unnecessary rings.

http://www.the-exiles.org/Article%20chain.htm
Tips on butted mail and tailoring advice near the bottom.

>>9776020
>using the maggots, worms and green slime in modified cascarone (italian confetti eggs) for use as goblin magic.
What game let's you do something like this? I want in.

>>9776021
Thanks, pal. Have some armor.

>>9776095
The game I started a few years back, "Lost Stories & Dark tales". We recently ditched the Not!Warhammer aesthetic, and moved it to an 18thC like setting. Still the same highly lethal fairy-tale fantasy horror as planned though.

Sadly, still extremely backburner for a lot of us. We've had about three games in as many years. Really need to expand, but a lot of the local larps are turned off by the dress requirements, latex weapons, and lack of math-based character advantage (No classes, no levels, no hitpoint, no levels).

>>9776190
Just dropping in to say you're a giant fucking fag and I have no idea why everyone on this board sucks your dick so hard.

>>9776202
He contributes to the community, unlike posters like you who simply bitch and moan.

>>9776202
To answer your question, the reason someone may enjoy sucking me off, would be the various piercings. The texture and tactile sensations are quite unique. Thanks for asking! Praise Slaanesh!

>>9776202
>>9776225
Well... Anon has an idea now.

>LARPthread: Nazis and dick-rings

So uh
Do we have a good LARP related youtube channel by now?

>>9776020
>Uroscopy flask
>Exactly what you think its for.
Something to do with pee?

>>9776534
Urine analysis was a huge part of Ye Olde medicine, to the point where in medieval art figures representing doctors are often marked by examining bottles of urine. Colour, transparency, smell, taste and so on does actually provide some useful hints for diagnosing a range of conditions.

>>9776661

Thank you! I designed the pattern myself based on some guesswork and existing patterns from Medieval Tailor's Assistant. The body part simply consists of four panels, which fit the chest circumference at the armholes but immediately start widening to make them comfortable to fence in at mid-thigh level even when fully buttoned up. The sleeves consist of two pieces each, sewn underarm and connected at mid-upper arm. The top part's upper edge connecting to the body panels' armholes are about 2.5x as long as the circumference of the armhole, folding the fabric in as you sew them together. The bottom part opens to a very wide bell, reaching down to about mid-lower arm, its width giving the illusion that it is way longer than that. The darted parts are folded back and stitched to the inner elbow with a few simple stitches to avoid it dropping down.

That's about it, the only thing I regret about that kit is that I patterned it when I was in the middle of some serious getting-into-shape: after losing about 10-15cm of waist circumference I designed the pattern to fit me because my old costumes became far too big, then went on to lose another 10cm.

>>9776202
Put your name back on, Soup.

I'm excited for the New England larp season to start up again.

>>9776225
Goddamn it Gropalope. I don't know if that's hilarious of off putting

>>9777565
By God I hope it's off putting.... (I sniggered though.)

>>9777314
Hell yeah bro! LARP season is starting again! What characters you preppin'?

>>9777097
Loving the sleeves bro.

Are memes welcome here

>>9778281
Yes. But don't do dumps, and preferably use in context.

Sewing my shawl type covering with some patterns suggested in last thread.
It's a shoulder shawl made from a dark red wool.
Originally I intended to just finish with a blind hem to polish off the edging, but now am considering a nice edge. I'm thinking bias tape (either white or yellow) Do I need to worry about adding an additional hem under the bias tape or just fixing it on is enough? I haven't really worked with wool before.

Anyone have any recommendations for NE Larp? I'm new to the scene and am looking for some standard of quality.

Finally got my new necklace for my viking kit in the mail!

>>9778509
Oh cool! I wear those at my SCA events as well! Do you wear runes and the likes with your group too?

>>9775426
>As a small burly man who finished his Italian Ren. Houppelande not too long ago, it looks fab.

Photos of it? I love Italian rennessance clothing!

>>9775486
>my girlfriend was the first with that, but yeah I did it too
Yes! I knew it!

>>9776020
>Next time im on the comp, I'll send it on facebook. Not that anyone really needs it as its fine to wear ancient Greek as it is. I just like keeping in my focused time frame.
Eagerly waiting when you get the chance! I know it's not necessary as ancient Rome and Greece is in the allowed time frame but I also would love to stick to 15th century Italy.

>>9776534
As far as I know the answer is always no.

>>9777097
It is super nice! Congrats on the weight loss. Is it too much of a hassle to tailor it?

>>9778294
If it's modern bias tape I'd say don't as it's mostly poly and looks it. If you are making your own bias tape out of wool or linen then hell yes and I approve. You shouldn't need to hem it in addition.

>>9778589
Della Francesca did a lot of art with in modo stuff iirc

>>9778589
>Yes! I knew it!
it wasn't a big surprise, is it? I mean I probably posted stuff about me doing sillier things than that.

>>9776021
I little addition to that:
http://allbeststuff.com/Chain-Mail-Armour

This site sells surprisingly good riveted chainmail with a surprisingly low price. We ordered a few bishop mantles from there and the only problem was that all of them were fuckhuge. Which mean if you have a little time you have a lot of additional links to do repairs later, or if you have a fuckton of time than order two and make three out of it

Been working on this for renfest coming up. The doublet has detachable sleeves and I’ve even made my own shoes.

>>9778674
not bad but if you want to improve it in the future change the metal rings to simple holes that are sewn around.
Also depending on your actual size the shoulder flap might be started farther in, and the waist line higher up (although those might be right, I'm not sure while it's on a doll)

>>9776366
As the gods intended.

>>9776534
As >>9776550 succinctly states. I still need to find good vector art of a urine wheel and paint it. Pic related.

>>9777097
So fucking jealous! Looks good bro.

>>9777314
What games?

>>9777565
Both. And enticing.

>>9778281
Only if they are actually funny.

>>9778509
>>9778525
Oh boy...

>>9778589
Message me off 4chan, if you got a gmail and i'll send you a google drive of goodness. You'll have to wade through lots of armour though.

>>9778598
DELLA FRANCESCA IS LIFE.
DELLA FRANCESCA IS LOVE.
ALL HAIL THE BEST 15thC MATERIAL CULTURE

>>9778606
Everyone I know is buying Allbeststuff. Its really good shit. once I have the disposable income, I am getting half sleeves and a new skirt. Maybe a standard.

>>9778674
Not bad. To add to >>9778777, you can actually cheat, and sew around the eyelets.

Got a worn pic?:

>>9778777
>>9779214
Not any good ones. But yes. Here is without sleeves.

>>9779260
And then with sleeves and laced up.

>>9779260
Well that way weird how a photo turned full upside down...

>>9779260
alright, what I said about the shoulder and the waist stands (although the waist is nearly right so whatever). Also true for the shirt shoulder.
Basically you want the torso part to end where your shoulder starts moving when you move your arm up/down/etc.
Obviously it's harder to get it right but it will make moving in the cloth easier (well, if it's a long sleeved one) and the "wrinkles" in the fabric will also look different

>>9779263
I can't say anything good about the sleeves

Also consider a ladder and other lacing methods, that also will pull together the leather in a different way.

>>9779263
Also note, the hose will be red not black. Also here are the shoes before dyeing them.

>>9779260
>>9779262
>>9779263
Its very good. My only nit pick is the modernism of the torso length. The bottom of the pigeon-breast, where the trunk meets the faulds, should end at around your belly button. You're also a little wide at the yolk of the shoulders, which shouldn't be too tight, but still pull your shoulders back.

Are your arms just tubes, or are the cut at a curve?

>>9779265
I looks like the sleeves are straight cuts rather than cut to the curvature of the arm, which throws off the shape significantly.

>>9779267
Love the shoes. A pair of poulaines are on my to-do list. Whats vague period are you going for?

>>9779271
I know what kind of sleeves he tried to mimic but the pattern isn't right and neither is the material for this.

>>9774159
If you wanna dress up, you go SCA or Renfaire in the US.

If you wanna be a hero and swing a dick at people, you go LARP.

>>9775164
>On the Charlottesville picture you posted I don't see Nazi symbolism f.e.

>Fasces
>Confederate flag

Clearly nothing but patriots and democrats here.

>>9779283
>Not being a hero and swinging a stick with hundreds of your best friends, while arrows and seige weapons fill the air, in the SCA

>>9779283
Is this how you feel it is, or a statement about the US?

We're being challenged on the Facebook group guys.

>>9780299
which group?

>>9780307
Drachenfest official group, I'm now stealing that image for pinkies, thanks.

>>9780310
feel free, I have more than enough pics from the events to diss those blu marone losers

>>9779288
Speaking of SCA, they want to make a local group where I live (We had one a few years back, then it kinda disappeared).

So far we have people who focus on feasting and stuff like that, so I want to join them and develop the battling side of it.

What would one need to know of SCA combat and how to start a group and all that? (I incline to focus on Rapier, but the rattan stuff are probably welcome as well.)

What are some of the most common creature races and monsters played in games? Things that need masks ( and gloves)

I'm making some masks for a market and want to make stock that sells or people will want customs off.

I'm thinking goblins, orcs, skaven, elementals, mutants?

>>9780391
Werewolves for all them WtA games, infernals/demons

>>9780391
Undead

>>9780391
Orcs, undead, werewolves, trolls.

In that order.

Someone make a boffer cod piece.

>>9780612
someone stop this guy before he makes a boffer codpiece

>>9780363
>Speaking of SCA, they want to make a local group where I live (We had one a few years back, then it kinda disappeared).

If you had a small group like a shire, it probably got reabsorbed by it's parent barony for lack of members. To restart it is something you won't be able to do unless you have already played for years and already be involved as an officer. Where are you? Your best bet is to contact your local barony and start from there.

>What would one need to know of SCA combat and how to start a group and all that? (I incline to focus on Rapier, but the rattan stuff are probably welcome as well.)

If its an official thing, you would need to have a marshal, and card carrying, authorized fighters, as well as someone to handle the insurance waivers.

>>9780391
Orcs/Gobbos, Skeletons, Zombies, cultists.

Honestly, baggy burlap tunics that can fit over whatever nondescript clothes they have, gloves and masks, will fit for 99% of all those.

>>9780716
Forgot my pic and trip. Burlap, old, discarded armour, and discount Halloween props are cheap and easy.

If I could find my nose, I'd do a goblin real quick. Most of my head is obscured a helmet made out a black plastic trick-or-treating bucket that looks like a cauldron, with only a $1 green rubber witch- nose poking out.

Cheap, but cool.

>>9780736
That's really not terrible for budget monster costuming. If it was longer and maybe had sleeves, it would pop more.

>>9779369
It's how the chips fall. The SCA is where the folks who like costumes and research and baton massages of the lower extremities gather.

LARP, in comparison, is basically a low effort variant of the boffer fights in American Ninja Warrior.

>>9781255
Ah, I guess to an extent SCA might actually be a reason LARP stays trashy in the US. Here (my orga, in the Netherlands) we have a lot of LARPers who start out as random fantasy and slowly grow into people who put most reenactors to shame knowledge wise. I was severely surprised that most of the older members could easily tell me all about period specific things from all over the early middle ages up to late renaissance and Golden Age.

Whereas these would've just started SCA'ing in the US, because if there is a "better" group out there that you can join and do sort of the same thing. Why would you improve what you have now?

Or am I seeing it all wrong now?

So, what would a early 14th century well off traveling merchant wear as pants?
Also, what Ado about prescription glasses? Realistically, I know glasses were uncommon except for maybe chemists/alchemists and scribes/priests, but I like being able to see at distance.

>>9781676
>So, what would a early 14th century well off traveling merchant wear as pants?
hose as everyone else, maybe joined hose but can't recall now when that started to be a thing

>Realistically, I know glasses were uncommon except for maybe chemists/alchemists and scribes/priests, but I like being able to see at distance.
fortunately you are wrong
http://www.medievalists.net/2016/03/medieval-eyeglasses-wearable-technology-of-the-thirteenth-century/

>>9781753
Your link exclusively talks about those that would be used for accounting and scribing (exactly the same uses I listed) and even says that the glasses I would use weren't until early modern. As such, I still need to know what would be used for non bookkeeping use.

I am happy to know that the use of glasses was a little more widespread than just in the few professions I listed, even if it is for the same uses.

>>9781946
>and even says that the glasses I would use weren't until early modern
well OBVIOUSLY because those are modern glasses. I thought you wanted period ones.

>Your link exclusively talks about those that would be used for accounting and scribing
And nobles and basically anyone who could buy it. I mean honestly, do you think they would sell it for just specific people?
>As time passed, glassmakers became so proficient and knowledgeable about their product that it was possible for the Duke of Milan to order 200 pairs in 1466, all of varying strengths.
that's a lot of glasses, and lot of different ones. You can see from there that it was already commonplace to get glasses.

Also look at this painting, especially the box on the lower left.

And lastly. you as a traveling merchant won't do any accounting and scribing for yourself?

>>9781946
I think the point is that for non-bookkeeping usage you might just be shit out of luck. If you're exceptionally uncaring for your glasses you just wear your scribing glasses for every day usage and get some bloke to just make more.

If the duke of Milan can order 200 of the damn things, you might as well be able to afford a second pair somewhere as well.
What's the chafing mark about your first comment is the fact you said scribes and priests, rather than just every bloke who has to pen a bit.

>>9782163
>that image
looks like Nauticalmart made their own armor for once instead of slapping a watermark on other people's stuff.

>>9778294
Wool is understatedly tough

>>9782158
Hrm, what do nobles do... Ohh wait, they have to read stuff. Every rank/class/profession mentioned all have one thing in common, needing magnification at close range for near objects.

What I'm trying to say is that according to that source, and a few others, glasses were not just regularly worn. It was more an 'Oh I need to see X, let me put on glasses'

And when I mentioned early modern, I was talking spesifically about glasses that would simi-regularly be worn to help with seeing at distance. I most definitely am wanting a period looking solution, but that would require wearing glasses at most times, which is distinctly not period, and thus is the problem.

The distraction is need based, vs regularity.

>>9773369
SCA is basically history themed LARP. Some of the people in SCA are really good as far as historical accuracy is concerned but the group as a whole... not so much.

>>9781330
This is actually an interesting theory that might be true.

>>9782884
So yes it might be that glasses for distance weren't used, I don't know because I haven't really looked into it.

Generally I think it's accepted that while modern glasses are anacronistic they are a bit of a necessary evil. If you want something that blends in a bit better then what Hungarian suggests should work.

I have heavy bangs which aren't period to my chosen era, which also doesn't have covering headgear either. So I pin then back with bobby pins. When I find a more accurate way if dealing with it I'll do so, but until I do it's a small niggle.

anyone have videos of LARP battles in Europe? All I can find on youtube rn is US battles which seem really cringey

>>9783467
?

>>9783524
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzYDt_wq7kY

>>9783467
Why should we care about somebody's slander/warning campaign?

And why is the guy looking like a Richard Hammond 2 for 1 action doll from the Lidl?

>>9783939
>>9783585
all ive found out so far is that he's an z list actor whos cosplayed as the Joker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxribF26Ldo
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3272133/

>>9783943
Cheers for the info but to be honest, this could just be giving us a ton of information on a person who might just have a vendetta with some lolita/cosplayer/LARPer and now it's going to be thrown at all of us like we should care about their drama.

Untill there's some proof of this guy's wrong doing, let's just let it die.

>>9783897
Is it always show fighting like that?

>>9784078
Yes. Drachenfest is a 365 day event, all day every day people are fighting each other. They try to die... but they just wake up in the graveyard with no memories of their death and an odd desire to bring cookies and mead to the cemetery.

Some say they are cursed, others call it Valhalla, but we call it... Drachenfest.

My gf and I are planing on a cruise soon and I was wondering if LARPING would be allowed on board the ship. We are active LARPers in our community and thought it would be cool to do it on the cruise (we want to keep practicing our LARPing skills even on vacation so that we don't get rusty). I was wondering how dangerous it would be though on a ship that wobbles back and forth. Like regular LARPing is pretty dangerous already on ground but on a ship?? I might crack my head... that'll be a cool story to bring back with us though to tell all our LARPer bros haha. We won't be bringing any of our usual gears though but we got some sick summer themed LARP gears designed (think pool noodles). Anywho any tips on LARPing on a ship?

>>9784117
>Like regular LARPing is pretty dangerous already on ground
are you for real?

>>9784078
no, it's one video from one event from one country.

>>9782884
>What I'm trying to say is that according to that source, and a few others, glasses were not just regularly worn. It was more an 'Oh I need to see X, let me put on glasses'
Then get glasses and when you need to see X you put it on. When you will encounter X all day long you will worn it all day long.
I mean, you think if someone had bad eyes and had glasses put it down for some reason?

>>9784117
I see ya anon. I see you.

>>9784161
I appreciate it and all, but can you stop it please? People don't take my questions seriously when you reply to me with your fishy pics.

>>9784157
Are you saying it's not? I don't understand your response

>>9784164
yep. I'm saying it is not dangerous, and I keep a healthy dose of skepticism for everyone who says it is dangerous.
Also from what you wrote I suspect fighting and larping is nearly the same for you.

>>9784164
You've posted the same question on three different threads, how are you not trying to bait people??

>>9784092
well excuuuuuuuse me, princess.

"Is the fighting in that video representative of the norm in LARPing?" There, that better?

Honestly, one of my biggest problems with LARP is the fighting. From what I have seen so far it falls into 2 categories:
1. Show fights (overly dramatic swings, etc.)
2. Spastic flailing.

>>9784174
This.

I do reenactment with steel weapons and even we rarely have any injuries. We get plenty of bruises, occasional broken bones, or cuts/scars but nothing serious. Wolin apparently gets some spooky injuries but they're always because someone does something stupid and gets themselves hurt.

Note, if someone is swinging a steel Dane Axe down on your head... don't look up.

>>9784905
>Wolin apparently gets some spooky injuries but they're always because someone does something stupid and gets themselves hurt.
yeah, but that's Wolin, where the manly men (tm) goes. I mean, that's the place where ass tug of war is a thing.

>>9784894
larp fighting will nearly always look shit from the outside perspective, with the possible exception when all of the combatants knowes what they are doing AND the rules are not retarded. Or when the whole thing is staged/choreographed.

But to get you a little more detailed picture:
Here is another video from Drachenfest, mainly about the orcs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGrkRpBKXUw

And from the same event but on an arena fight which have pants on head retarded special rules
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAJssOLDh44

Then here is a video from a different game, different rules, ten years earlier but still same country
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq_WJqEQpuI

And here is one that is nearly fully choreographed, from 2006. Technically not a larp just a video that was made for a larp. Still germany.

And now lets drift from germany to the checz republic,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGLuY1F4d64

Also the checz republic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0k2eBKdMH4

Sweden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxtzlQ8zgrY

Also sweden, but different game, different situation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvDI8CxfFb8

Then here is russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj51h62ewEw

Also russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALYWzOojnQI


What I'm trying to say here is that you can't watch one video and say "yeah, that's how fighting goes in the whole continent"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssofePxJg_g

Not >>9785007 but adding some UK larp battle vids
this is 2 part vid of a battle from Empire lrp
https://youtu.be/VSiEALUbXhs
https://youtu.be/bfBWMjLdq5s

the gathering lrp
https://youtu.be/WdCjLXNg9jc

and finally from Fools and heroes, a national larp group that also runs national events called summerfest every year
https://youtu.be/5fr4QIKV-_k

Just got a sweet cloak pin for my birthday, mates. What color should i do the cloak? I’m thinking blue but open to suggestions, outfit is brown and tan so goes with anything.

>>9785381
pink

>>9784117
This is literally the stupidest thing I read in the entirety of 2018. Congrats.

>>9785423
Seconding. Pink is awesome.

>>9785381
Why is your outfit brown and tan? Please don't tell me you fell for the "everything was brown" meme.

Anyway, maybe a cool pattern like a dark green or a light blue with white linnen lining. Or heck, release your inner celt and go for a cool checkered fabric. Do you have any kit pics for us?

>>9785443
>stupidest thing I read in the entirety of 2018
> still not the start of larp season
give it time Gropey - theres still time enough for the stupid to appear.

>>9785423
>>9785443
Representing the manly, pink life today.

>>9785715
Oh I am well aware

>>9785715
>> still not the start of larp season
the fuck you are talking about? It already started.

Pick a Drachenfest camp for a trash mercenary.

>>9786164
>mercenary
>but also trash
Blu Marone it is

>>9785923
>Dem claves
Moist

>>9786209
Calves on heavier people are like a big chest on a heavy chick.

It doesn't count.

>>9786172
Please don't tell people to join Blu Marone, that's not a joking matter! I wouldn't even wish Blu Marone on my worst enemies! (Which, for a matter of fact, are Blu Marones.)

>>9786072
I dont know if its a UK thing or not but it usually refers to when the big festival sized larp events are run [basically spring to summer] with early September [when itstarts to get colder] commonly considered the end of the season.
thats not to say that other smaller events or larp groups dont run event throughout the year, but they tend to be much smaller affairs or run indoors due to the colder weather.

>TL:DR Larp season is just a turn of phrase, not a literal season]

>>9786607
You fuck yourself fucked, you fucking fuck. Fuck off my husbando. I will summon the seagulls to tear you apart.

>>9786872
I never understand why people are obsessed with Tubs the Clown.
I don't hate him, just don't get the undying fans.

>>9786736
>Not larping in the winter
Winter camping is legit my favorite time of the year. Its more relaxed events and the shitters don't show up

>>9786935
Tubs the clown is completely different. He's twice the clown I am, and three times the man you are. Don't take his name in vain!

>>9785481
If you go by the merchant’s colors it’s “fawn” hose and a “blush pink,” doublet; I like how it looks with my skin but expected the pink to be pinker. Blue and white sounds pretty sweet though, thanks anon. Will post outfit when the buddy making my belt gets back to me.

>>9785423
I wish m8 but the top’s pinkish. When i get around to making another doublet i’ll do the slashes in pink just for you

>>9786736
it's a silly phrase

>>9787140
Pic related

>>9786872
No u.

>>9786935
I don't know bro, I guess those pink socks do things to a "man". You got to admit, even you felt something looking at them... r-right?

>>9787047
I had to Google those colours and I'm not sure if I feel a weird sense of pride in that or not.
Seems like a sweet a combination though, do you got any pics so we can get a better idea though?

Or heck, just to sate my sheer curiosity.

kind of bored right now because I'm sitting at home being sick so here is a little story I didn't mentioned from the last larp:

Our team was basically one very important noble and his trusted men, going around the estates of his vassals at the beginning of the new year to see if everything is okay or something is not okay.
So the team was:
1 very important noble, lots of lands very strong ties to the inquisitors of the empire, pretty big on helping them out and training troops for them
1 security expert who was the son of a watchmaker but learned at the academy but never really finished it (and also an assassin who was in retirement),
1 kind of retired soldier (me) who went trough a few battles, one serious siege, then a lot of odd jobs here and there and now served as adviser/administrator for the noble
1 pretty new and still naive monk who came with us because the older more experienced one was needed at home as the noble's wife got sick.

The story of the game was that this local vassal who had a small estate with some other stuff had a lot of happening just now and a lot of people "trapped" at his home. Us, the very important noble group, a group of tax collectors from the emperor and a bunch of merchants that were on their way when the storm happened.
Also a few murders and extensive poaching happened in the near past.


So the little story happened when we tried to do a quick search in the room of the merchants because they were suspicious as fuck for us...

>>9787328
the security expert stood guard outside of the room while I did a quick search, couldn't find anything and had to leave quick as I heard the bodyguard of the merchant's were coming back (who also shitmouthed the local religion several times).
The security expert tried to hold him up by some small talk but he seen me at their door that was being closed the moment when he seen me. This and the fact that it was at the end of a corridor gave us very little excuses, so the usual shittalk started, we denying everything and lying even the stars from the sky.
I was in the process of implying if he calls me a liar we can get this argument out to the field and settle it as civilized people, with swords.

And this was the moment when we were interrupted.
The hunter of the local vassal emerged from the servant's quarter, or rather flied, right into the face of the guy we had the argument with, and started to stab him repeatedly as long as the guy moved meanwhile calling him a heretic and stuff like that because of the previous shittalking of the gods he did.
Me and the security expert just looked at each other and started to leave and cough loudly so to mask the sound of facestabbing. That was the moment when the naive monk entered the corridor and seen the end of the facestabbing, totally frozen and shocked. It was his first time seeing an assisted suicide.
So we grabbed him, said a few calming words and left the building through the only door to get some fresh air and try to calmed him down, some breathing techniques, kind words and made sure that he is watched the door if anyone else comes out of the building.

After this me and the security expert climbed into the servant quarter of the building through the windows...

>>9787337
The hunter in the meantime dragged to the servant quarter the now corpse, and had a little mental breakdown that he again killed (he was the serial killer that did thin on religious basis) and now he was completely sure that the vassal of the estate who he loved and served now will kill him and curse him, etc so he thought that giving himself up would be the best course of action.
That was the moment when we knocked on the window and climbed in. As the experts we tried to carry the corpse out of the window but he was the kind of big guy who just flows out of your hands so while he was heavy we couldn't get a proper hold on him.
That meant it was cutting time. Put the guy over a few blankets, "cut off" the limbs and climbed out of the window with them again.

After we were out we said another few calming word for the monk and thrown one of the slightly bloodly blanket package to him so he will help carry the stuff as I went back to another quick look in the room.
The monk was obviously shocked again and on the verge of panic. Asked the security expert useless stuff like "what in the blankets?" or "why are they so wet?!" and "IS THIS BLOOD?!!!"
The answer was basically "leftover from the turkey butchering, SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

Later we finished the cleanup, and had an interesting talk with our lord, about if we have anything to do with the disappearance of that guy
"depends who is asking"
"I am asking"
"no..." while continuously nodding

>>9787349
So after we did our report and decided that this guy indeed is the serial killer as his attack method seems similar to the injuries that was found on the other dead bodies we decide to do the only sensible solution: We give him a job offer.
Purely because he did it on a religious basis and he is kind of an unpolished gem, or as the noble put it "a river that needs to be put in the right bed"

Anyway the murder then was put under the blanket so to say for quite a while until the hunter got seriously drunk and gave out everything to others.

Then there was a quick parley about what to do with this guy. Where everyone was invited except us.
Basically it went like this: the hunter was found guilty of murder but the merchants were more angry with us and one of them, I shit you not, openly tried to bribe everyone in the room so there will be a death sentence on us. After slight smirks he was informed that's not gonna happen, for various reasons (one of those things was the fact that the noble we worked for seriously outranked everyone there)
Then the merchant implied that with everyone's help they could kick the door on us and apprehend everyone. Again he was informed that this not gonna happen, and one of the reasons were
"This meeting went on now for half an out. They are right in the next room. Don't you think they are kind of prepared for something like that?"

Meanwhile in our room:
We packed out our additional weapon stashes, placed throwing daggers and various weapons in tactically important places, gave backup weapon to for the lord and the monk, and got out a repeating crossbow and a firearm we had.
Then we sit down, me and the security expert exchanged black humor, the noble picked his nails radiating ultimate calmness and the monk was again in the verge of panic.
And of course we practiced the perfect super villain poses if they indeed kick down the door...

>>9787364
Which sadly didn't happened. We admitted to be guilty of trying to clean up a corpse, paid a few silvers to the host, with an apology about ruining the blankets and the carpet.

Later because of this we had a few more complications but those aren't that interesting.
The End.

>>9784157
I need to see at all times though. Thus the issue.

>>9782192
The one on the right is Robert Macpherson's work. The man's a damn treasure.

>>9786872
>bordering on creepy
I like grope too but damn, anon.

didn't read most of the replies, but LARPing is indeed a very dangerous hobby. I don't know how most people here do their LARPing, but in my community we LARP for a week straight sometimes. Have you ever engage in the act of LARPing for so long that it starts to feel very realistic? Funny story I met my current gf while we were engage in one of these one week LARP sesh. She was the maiden of the town's governor and the town was taken over by another party who flew the banner of the red dandelion. Anyways my own LARPing party happened to stumble onto this town during the week and we had a grand LARP battle. I got hit in the legs while trying to save my gf during the battle

>>9788720
>but LARPing is indeed a very dangerous hobby
do people regularly get hospitalized with broken bones or equivalent level of injuries?

>but in my community we LARP for a week straight sometimes
Lots of places have week long larps

>Have you ever engage in the act of LARPing for so long that it starts to feel very realistic?
If done right most larps are like that, this shouldn't be an exception but the norm. At least in better places...

>Funny story I met my current gf while we were engage in one of these one week LARP sesh.
Indeed sounds very dangerous

>I got hit in the legs while trying to save my gf during the battle
My gf tried to kill me in the first larp we met. She didn't succeed though.
She did nearly broke my nose in her second hema training, so there is that.

>>9788725
You do know his tag is "Soup" spelled backwards, right?

>>9789000
and?
I mean it's kind of a slow day and I want to see where this all will go

>>9789004
Soup is the guy trying to become e-famous on /cgl/ by being a troll.

>>9789004
Soup is a weak namefag shitposter that's been around here for about a week or two, it's better to not engage them.

>>9789010
>>9789013
He isn't the first or last and while ignoring is indeed a method to deal with them I like to give it a chance to people so they can be amusing in one way or another.
He might even put as much effort into it as Hobes and burn himself the same amount.

>>9789018
On a positive note: it'll put us up at the front of the catalog. Heck, we might even draw on some cross hobbyists. (Best LARP recruits IMO.)

>>9789025
Well, I wouldn't be here on cgl if it weren't for cross board trolls, that's for sure.

What should I watch out for when making a hood/gugel I can turn into a chaperone? Mainly talking about patterns here.

>>9789916
as always: medieval tailors assistant.
Also: watch for the front part to be wide and "long" enough when you coil it up it should still fit your head.
Also about the tail part: you think if it's really long it will look silly. But it's not. You NEED it really long

>>9789946
Yeah, was defintely going to make the lirepipe run down to my back. I'm mainly worried about the weight of the thing. I got a gugel (test version) out of a thin fabric that works perfectly as a chaperone.
The worry is that I've got a different gugel, with a much wider hood which doesn't turn into a decent chaperone. It keeps toppling. I think it's because of the hood but I'm worried it might be a weight issue as well since it's made out of very thick wool.

>>9789953
hang more bells from it

Hey Gropey and other larpfags:
Just came from the inventory porn thread in /tg/ and someone was posting your pics. Do you have more stuff laid out like this >>9775211
and pic related? How about a full one with your armor?

>>9791230
Can make one tomorrow if you'd like, still building up my first kit though, still a babby LARPer

>>9791230
Sure thing. I was thinking about doing a big "adventuring kit" spread.

>>9791230
There was two times when I did anything similar, but both of it was rushed as fuck.
Here is somethgin form and and a half years ago, what I packed for a scifi larp

Any tips for making an insect like carapace

>>9791821
EVA foam

>>9792131
Won't it break after getting hit repeatedly

>>9791821
Fiberglass. Lots of work, but it can be rigid, shiny and colorful.

I'd give a link, but 4chan thinks I'm spam. Google Fiberglass armor or fiberglass costume.

>>9791821
Your options boil down to:
- Easy to make
- Inexpensive
- Durable
Pick two.

>>9792230
Almost everything gets noticeably damaged after getting wailed on enough. Unless you wanna start getting into some deep shit with molding polycarbonate or experiencing the pure rage that is fiberglass, shit's eventually gonna break when it gets hit.
Unless you're using joints/seams in whatever you're making, EVA can be surprisingly resilient, btw.

>>9788725
>do people regularly get hospitalized with broken bones or equivalent level of injuries?
Barely related, but the light-contact games I play in experience far more injuries per capita than my HEMA group.

>>9792363
>Barely related, but the light-contact games I play in experience far more injuries per capita than my HEMA group.
if it's bruises and the ocassionally bloody nose then yes, because the world is full with dangerous amateurs, and you wear little to no safety equipment.
But that's why the weapons are padded and there are safety rules.

And yet it's still far from dangerous. I mean the most dangerous part of larpin is when you run around the woods and twist your ankle, headbutt a tree or somehow manage to fall in a very unlucky way. All of these things are off chance stuff that isn't a usual happening

>>9792675
>if it's bruises and the ocassionally bloody nose then yes
Nah, I'm talking about sprains, broken noses, dislocations etc...
I think it has to with the fact that you have a lot more people with medical issues or are just really badly out of shape trying to push themselves too hard or accidentally running into people

>>9793328
>or accidentally running into people
well yeah, that could happen but that's again not making larps dangerous. That's just people being retarded.

Also here only two times I've ever even heard that dislocation happened.
One of them was with a guy who had a medical condition and basically his shoulders could pop out from literally anything.
The other one was when some dumbfuck thought that the final fight in an arena should be by he ties his hand to the other guys hand and in their OTHER hand they have daggers and this will be "awesome". Then it wasn't that awesome and the said dumbfack person even tried a throw against the other guy who weren't as cooperating as a standard mcdojo trainee...

That's in a span of slightly more of a decade

>>9793335
Oh no, I'm not saying that LARP in and of itself is a dangerous activity; I'm saying that the people at my local light-contact games are so prone to injury that it evens out somehow.

Most of the injuries in question are just people who haven't spent a lot of time outdoors and don't know better than to run full-tilt through thick underbrush. So many rogues have tried to be clever and just come out of it with a fucked up ankle.

>>9793384
then we completely agree

I made this recently for my kit. What have you made recently?

>>9795060
got nerf weapons will paint them when I have the time. But in the meaintime I getting ready tomorrow to do swordfighting stuff at a very small con and at sunday there is a cthulhu larp

>>9778606
Thanks for the link, I've been thinking about getting a riveted mail vest for cosplay and also personal protection. LARP and HEMA interest me though I haven't really tried either yet.Still, a fairly cheap riveted mail t-shirt seems like it could suit both pretty well, either as part of a costume or worn over a gambeson. Right?

>>9775135
Holy shit do I want to bully these losers.

>>9796278
>Holy shit do I want to bully these losers.
>"Plz no bully mstr race? plzkthnks bai!"

A summons for lord Gropey De La Clowne to attend the Macarouji thread >>9796351

>>9796278
Minor nitpick here, for the record the correct term would be "hauberk" (for full-length sleeves) or "haubergon" (for elbow-length).

If you're looking for actual personal protection, I feel like a better choices is to buy something light and modern. But for cosplay it's a great choice, especially if you think you may look into LARP and/or HEMA in the future.

>>9796836
truth to be told zweihander, another meme word is also wrong as fuck as the proper term is bidenhander.

But technically speaking nobody gives a fuck.

>>9796836
>>9796888
Well that certainly gives me some better terminology, thanks. I already knew the word hauberk, but I wasn’t sure about short sleeved mail tops. I have a couple questions if either of you would like to answer them. I’m looking at this one: http://allbeststuff.com/Chain-Mail-Armour/Flat-Riveted-Full-Riveted-Aluminum-Chain-Mail-T-Shirt because the price is good and it looks decent. What I need to know is how to make the measurements for the sleeve tapering and whether or not I should get a riding split in it. I’d definitely shell out for the leather trim, looks nice and I’d wager it improved durability a little.

>>9796888
Doesn't ring as good as sweihander does desu

>>9797151
Consider the following:
>doppelhander

>>9797136
I don't know enough about riveted mail to comment on this particular piece's quality or the tapering measurements, sadly. I don't think riveted mail typically has any durability issues though, so the leather trim is probably down to personal preference.

I do recommend getting the riding split, afaik those were historically pretty standard and help with range of leg movement a lot.

the guy on the left, what is that on the outmost layer?

is it leather, another (decorated) padded armor, incredibly decorated brigandine?

In this thread it always seems like no one ever larps nothing but medieval/historical/ren/viking stuff.
Do you ever larp scifi/fantasy, modern settings?

>>9797782
Guessing cooked leather or a very weird way of drawing steel armour?

>>9797789
I don't but I know there's a few people on here who do.

>>9797789
only if you just skim over the post and only watch the pictures

>>9797449
I should rename chainmail to linkshirt

>>9797802
>not already calling it knitted metal

>>9797803
>knitting
>being invented at the same as chainmail

You silly goose, it's called chainy-wainey-cuts-in-vainy.

>>9797782
Maybe it’s steel brushed with bronze and worked with intricate designs? Maybe even some inlaid gold?

>>9797449
>dopehander

>>9797802
>>9797803
>granny iron shirt

>>9797789
Fantasy and historical seem to be the most popular settings, with post-apoc coming up a pretty close second. I'd love to do more sci-fi larp if I could find some decent games.

>>9797807
>not calling mail "chainy-wainy cuts-in-vainy"
>not calling a rapier a "whippy-frippy blood-will-drippy"
>not calling crossbows "cheater slings"
>not calling a kettle helm "Wide Clyde your-head-will-hide"
>not calling a spear a "faraway, poke-all-day"

>>9797782
Its early 14th century, could be plate that has been decorated with paint. Rich fags you know.

Only source my two minute googling could find to back this:
>http://www.medievalwarfare.info/armour.htm#torso
>While some special kind of secondary protection for the breast had been worn in earlier times by the men-at-arms in addition to their mail hauberks and their cotes armed with splints and studs, it was not till the 14th century that a regular body-defence of plate can be said to have become an established component of medieval armour.

>>9798263
>studs
Be cautious of this source

meanwhile as I'm said I'm in pretty much on the hype train right now for a scifi larp that will happen at the end of may this year.
I already got two nerf weapons for it and in the process of figuring out what kind of cloths should I get and if I have time maybe some kind of armor too, although it's not that high in the priority list.

What is way higher in the priority list is however getting more Best Girls and waifu materials for the character as I want it to be low key weeaboo. (I might even get some kind of anime sticker for one of my weapons so I can melt the brains of others)

What is the best way to remove acryllic paint of armour?

>>9799174
Fire?

>>9799174
Could try any of the stripping agents mini painters use. Simple green, dettol, and brake fluid are the most common in ascending order of effectiveness.

>>9799174
how about a piece of metal applied with careful strength and willpower. Alternately sandpaper

>>9799174
Acetone.

>>9786607
Blu Marone crucifixion when though

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>>9800838
>>9800838

>>9775159
"b-b-but sometimes lefties are mean too so we HAVE to let the Nazis exist"

okay bootlicker, whatever you say