/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Why does this group exist? Please tell me you're not a member, OP.

>>9760616
Op here, good lord no, I became aware of the group when I found out that Dev had been copying people's coords for her art (including my own), so I'd messaged her to ask her to stop since it creeped me out given her past behaviour. The cap on the bottom right shows the screen so she sent me to prove that she credited me to the art, but with the group name seeming a little off I searched for it and that's what I found. I was stupid enough to not remember to get a cap to show that she owns the group, but at the least these caps show that she's part of it. And more than half of the members seemed to be underage.

>>9760613
This just proves that D is the worst and justifies my hate for her.

This is one of the reasons I stay far far away from lolita cosplayers. They will look all nice and stuff in person but holy shit some of the backstory I've heard of what they do online and their cliques makes me never give a shit.

Yeah I know all groups/cliques have them, but lolita groups seem to have the creepiest/disturbing shit.

>>9760744
>"lolita cosplayers"
Go back to the cosplay section of the board m8

>>9760744
Lolita is not cosplay. Please stay out of the community until you understand the difference between the two.

>>9760613
>>9760613
I don't have enough reaction pics to convey my utter disgust. I hope that one day the general community's reputation of being elitist kink-shaming bitches becomes so strong and prevalent that it keeps these asswipes out.

>>9760628
>her past behaviour
What would that be? From their posts I genuinely am confused about if they are male or female.

>>9760901
She throws fits and continuously forces the fakeboi act on others, she was banned off amino for posting shitty furry porn and gore art. On amino she would have a horrible attitude towards people, especially the mods after they implemented the no art rule, and if she was called out for her shit she’d pull the transphobia card to make her the victim.

>>9760928
>furry porn
When you think it can't get any worse...
I wish people would stop pulling the transphobia card when they are just shitty individuals.

>>9760928
Are they even active in the community beyond facebook?

>>9760886
Agreed. I see literally zero downside to having a reputation as a kinkshaming group because the only people scared off by that are people you don’t want in your group anyway.

>>9760935
As another anon said, she was active on a couple different lolita aminos before being banned from one and flouncing from the other after being called out for plugging her kink group there.

>>9760886
Me too anon, I can't wait till the age player in the comm who's been digging her own grave lately to leave the fashion. I hate edgy teenagers in comms

>>9761023
which one? the only outed one I know is Agnes and she seems to have taken it pretty gracefully/keeps it out from the comm beyond just acknowledging and confirming it when it came out (though being an ageplayer while also being a schoolteacher is questionable af to me)

>>9760735
'she' is a cis man. said it so herself.

>>9761044
I thought the ageplayer was mintyfrills? Damn, I really liked Agnes, but ageplay goes against every fibre in my body. Made me look at her in a new light.

>>9761044
Nah, not in the EU comms. Claimed that I "discriminated" her when i talked about not liking sissies. Wish i can say more but i've probably outed myself already.

>>9761048
She is a delusional kid who feels a need to play victim. She threw a fit at me when i called her out for linking her public kink and furriness to lolita

>>9761051
Didn't she have a phone case shaped like a baby bottle or was that someone else?

>>9761044
How do you know Agnes is an ageplayer?

>>9761044
Where did she out herself as an age player? I follow her on multiple platforms and havnt once seen her post about being into age play. And being a teacher into the fashion isn’t really that weird. A lot of lolitas are teachers. I need receipts to this claim of her being an age player. This reeks of false claims. Prove me wrong anon, I want to see.

>>9761189
It's not the fashion that would be questionable in combination with a job involving children, it's the ageplay. Idk if that's really true, though.

>>9761044
As far as I know this hasn't been mentioned since 2015, and it was only written in Swedish. who dis

>>9761203
Not only Swedish people can read Swedish.

Is there any worthwhile group for discussion/making friends anymore?

>>9760934
She's also supposedly a devout muslim, which begs the question, how halal is furry porn and gore? Devanee? Anyone?

>>9761208
How many non-Swedes are members of Lolita Sverige though?

>>9761203
>>9761345
Why does it matter if that anon is part of the Swedish comm or not? Do lolita communities have some kind of intra-comm confidentiality regarding kinks?

what's wrong with ageplaying? the modern pedo hysteria is retarded when they criticise and even try to outlaw stuff which has nothing to do with real children (drawing, apparently acting)

>>9761357
Really I'm just curious who's the two-faced bitch who name dropped two Stockholm girls within 7 minutes in reply to a pretty generic post about teenagers, especially since both Agnes and Jen are closer to 30 and thus impossibly could be whom the anon referred to

>>9761362
You seriously don't see what's creepy about pretending to be a child for the sexual pleasure of yourself or someone else?

>>9761362
Ageplayers won't shut the fuck up about their uwu kinks and it makes everyone else who just wants to wear their frilly dresses in peace look like fetishists. If you keep your kinks to yourself like you should no one will complain about you being an ageplayer because no one will know. As it should be.

>>9761179
She did but that doesn’t actually confirm anything.

>>9761376
i am probably very amoral but i see nothing morally wrong in any fetish that doesn't harm anybody

>>9761388
Good for you? Most of us just ask that kinks be kept private, it reflects badly on the community when we have public age players that mix their kink with the fashion, our clothes are already seen as a fetish, it really doesn't help us to have people in the community that can't just keep their kinks inside the bedroom.

BMT? just go away? Please?

>>9761388
A major part of BDSM (and anything related to sex really) is consent. If you broadcast your fetish to the general public, you're basically throwing consent out the window and deserve every bit of "kink shaming" that comes your way.

>>9761373
I'm not a Swede nor can I read the language but I've heard the rumor that these two girls were ageplayers; idk if it's true or not and frankly I don't care as long as they don't share it publicly.

>>9761362
So roleplaying as a child so your bf can fuck you because he can’t get it up any other way is totally okay? You don’t think people who were sexually abused as kids would be totally okay with people romanticising their abuse?

>>9761486
I was with you until you started to approach that slippery slope you're on. The 'what would abused people think?' argument casts a net that's way too wide and can be applied to a lot of things that you would probably think are fine. Spankings, whippings, bondage, and other power exchange scenarios can be called abuse, but with consent, they're okay. Same goes for ageplay. I don't like it, but I don't tell happy, consenting adults what they can't do either though. If a girl wants to be gross with her partner in private, w/e. Once it leaks out into my field of vision though, that's when I'll bring out my wagging finger of disapproval. That's BDSM though, it belongs behind closed doors, or else it's breaking it's own rule of consent. Easy, right?

>>9761466
iirc Jen hasn't been confirmed as an age player and I have never seen Agnes even mention it.

>>9761584
Please excuse my overuse of 'though', maybe I should proofread before I post?

>>9761203
>>9761345
>>9761373
I have no idea who Jen is, and yes I speak/read Swedish without being Swedish - the caps were posted on here. I just authentically don't know anyone else who'd be considered significant in the online comm and has had serious/confirmed allegations against them so I threw a random guess out, sorry for brewing a storm in a teacup - I thought it was common knowledge on cgl though considering how long ago I heard of it

https://discord.gg/zD4sVx

The vetting discord

>>9761649
Thank you. I was able to get on this time. ;)

You folks don't vet really well, but thanks for trying. I'll just lurk in the chat and not say anything.

>>9761656
Lying like this and needlessly trying to start shit is exactly why people don't want you there. Remember this next time you whine and try to play the victim.

>>9761210
She claims she’s a male college student on amino when last I heard she was only 16, and I’ve seen her claims to be Muslim yet I remember dev being posted on BTB for posting pics of her in nothing but a bra(or shirt blouse?) and some bloomers. She is still a minor I’m pretty damn sure.

>>9761924
Don't forget her claim in RC that she's been wearing the fashion for "4 years" even though she said she was new to the fashion when she was on amino.

>>9760613
Just all the more reason to hate Dev desu, I'm also getting really tired of her backseat modding in a lot of online fb groups, she got called out by the mods for doing it in RC and she just kept going.

>>9762009
That’s cause when she has her own amino (even though literally anyone can make one) she feels like she has the authority. IM a Mod TOO!!

Also found the secret on her, what a devout Muslim

>>9762009
You missed a name, anon.

Not a lolita comm, but the worldwide party kei facebook group admins are having some serious meltdowns right now. Pixielocks has actually left the group. Many keks

>>9762028
its wild that she would lie about being biologically male with pictures like this circulating

>>9762028
well, male muslims are not supposed to wear burka

not sure if there exists a fatwa about furry pron

>>9760628
wait, is people drawing clothes and outfits they found somewhere else not allowed?

I’m disgusted the more I find out about D tho, I just thought she was annoying because I stg she has to comment on every single post in every single lolita group and it’s fucking irritating.

>>9762427
one of her posts was talking about how she was male but looked so female that people would drag her into the girls toilets, men would tell her to get out of the mens toilets etc.
yeah dev, that's because you're not a biological man.

>>9762453
Merry capmas, I physically cringe every time D talks about being a "brolita", she's biologically female and chooses to wear a hyper feminine fashion, her story reads as fake but even if it were true it'd make sense since she's never made any effort to present as male.

I really wish I could find those old caps she posted to LA of her hairy Sasquatch legs, it was horrific.

>>9762476
> "my comm forgets I'm a guy"
Rampant delusion is not kawaii

>>9761656
Christ you're an autistic piece of shit

>>9762476
If the only thing giving you away as a man is your voice, why the fuck are you talking in the restroom?
What is the truth, D. Who are you talking to?

>>9762520
what's so interesting in a ladies' restroom? i was in one once by mistake because it had no sign (no ladies were there, i realized my mistake later) and i can assure you there was nothing especially interesting or fascinating there to want to visit it again

>>9761451
agree
I fuckin hate the cunt
she must be thick or something to ask so many absolutely ridiculous questions

>>9762548
I was talkinng about the mens restroom, since she says it makes it awkward when she walks into the restroom. I'm guessing she's rping as if she goes into the mens room.

Also who the fuck is pulling her into the restroom? Like, are people trying to pee with you or something?
>come with me little girl, I want to pee on you
>no! wrong restroom! only men can pee on me since I am a man!

>>9762476
I remember that anon...
>vomitchan.jpg

>>9762574

>>9762574
wh y

also what comm is she in so I can avoid her forever

>>9762609
pretty sure its MD iirc. I just know shes closer than I'm ok with.

>>9762574
shaving legs is gay after all

>>9762621
MD??

>>9762427
She's inconsistent as FUCK. I think she made a poll asking about if it was ok to keep her legs unshaved since it made her less dysphoric,or something like that. A legit trans person wouldn't ask.

>>9762621
>>9762686
Maryland

The amino group she made is also a straight up mess
>"kodomo"
>"I dunno why my comm forgets I'm a guy"
If it looks like a fake boi and talks like a fake boi it's probably a fujoshi

>>9761044
woah anon throwing out info like that and treating it like it's common knowledge, and then providing zero receipts when multiple people ask for them for the remainder of the thread is shady as fuck.
I follow Agnes and she talks very openly about herself and her personal life, relationships and being bi, and never even once did I hear anything that would so much as hint at being into ageplay. She really doesn't come off as a person who would go out of their way to hide it.
Either serve some proof or come forward and admit you may be wrong or remembering something incorrectly, there are already people here making assumptions based on nothing but some rumors, and I think that's pretty shitty.

>>9762374
caps?
the group seems to have vanished

>>9762574
That’s definitely feminine leg hair.

>>9764235
> kodomo
As in children?? That's the only meaning it has

>>9765393
She's meant "kodona" boystyle

>>9765391
btw, have you seen pics how a girl who doesn't shave her legs looks like?

also the image caption is kind of funny:
>Yasmin says that she will shave on rare occasions a such as going on holiday or if she plans to have sex

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3099412/This-reality-woman-Student-stopped-shaving-legs-age-11-says-s-proud-hair-covering-body-plucks-eyebrows.html

>>9765398
You can still tell the difference between a man’s leg hair and a woman who just up and started not shaving them for the last few years or whatever. Plus men have more coarse leg hair, almost like the texture of facial hair.

Btw I’m a girl that does not shave her legs.

There’s a new discord. I don’t think this needs any words.

http://tvmoney.club/9591768283271/

>>9766303
link?

>>9766335
It’s on reddit

https://discord.gg/kBGXcA
vetting server, new link

>>9766303
>usage of the word "ita" is strictly condemned
For what purpose?
It's not a slur, you can say "that lace is kinda ita" and not be mean.

>>9766593
There are people who take everything personally and consider anything not 100% positive to be mean. A few friends and I were laughing at a particularly bad Milanoo monstrosity and a girl got offended on behalf of the dress, not because she owned it or anything else from Milanoo, just because we were joking about how ugly an inanimate object was. People like this really do see ita as a slur. She even got angry when I mentioned my own ita phase.

>>9766601
How do people like this even live? I'm not saying "hurr durr the world is cruel get used to it", but having paper-thin skin is incredibly unhealthy for one's self esteem. How do they not get tired feeling offended by everything?

>>9766610
I have no fucking clue. Most of them are 20+ and in college. I think that they just suck it up in their regular life because how else are they able to leave their house, hold a job, etc.? They must hold fandoms and niche interests like lolita to a different standard. Geek social fallacies?

I’ve also been yelled at because I said that I avoid certain cuts because they are unflattering on me. I don’t say anything about anyone else, but apparently any opinion other than “everyone always looks great in everything UwU” is body-shaming.

Tfw you try to correct your boobloaf via rope

>>9766620
Can we please leave the shibari to the thotplayers?

https://youtu.be/n3_v3d1wUw8

>>9766620
this rope thingy looks as if it was added to her dress so she could be safely lifted with a crane

>>9766620
At least use a matching rope

>>9767687
It's pretty transparent why she's making this video. I wonder if she's under contract to be pally with the Leighs. hmm.

"omg how wholesome!"

>>9767966
my god this is creepy

>>9767701
Wings and sceptres are so 2016. The must-have accessory in 2018 is a harness and crane that allow you to fly around the meetup!

>>9767966
What the fuck? If I were the prospective buyer I’d probably no longer want it.

>>9767687
>Cyberbullying is damaging
Not as damaging as publicly endorsing a known sex perv and selling the entire fashion community you're a part of. Shame on you, Cat. I have 0 sympathy for you.

>>9767966
If I were the buyer I'd back out immediately upon seeing this. What the fuck

>>9767966
You could tell me this dress was $5 and I'd still probably not buy it after seeing this.

>>9761362
Frankly I don't care what others do with their lives either. But, I don't want to hear about it publicly in my own lolita comm. This comm isn't mine but I'm just speaking generally. It brings a negative view from others and it's just easier if people keep their sexual kinks privately segregated from their public fashion.

That said, free speech blah blah blah but I still don't want that shit in meetups

>>9767966
is this real life? i'm fucking dying holy shit

>>9768039
I always wonder why people shit on Cathy Cat so much.
If your employer or rather a business partner of your employer is a creep, not towards you but to others in the past, are you supposed to quit your job and deal with the consequences of breacking a contract? Even though this job gives you a visa for the country you’re living in?
Are people expecting this?
I personally wouldn’t do that either, just because some strangers somewhere on this globe want me to do that. After all I would have to deal with the consequences and not them and why should I even want to please them. I won’t meet ya‘ll anyway.

>>9768772
She's not in Japan on a visa sponsored by AM, so what's your point exactly?
Yes, you will be judged for your associations with shitty people, especially when it's clearly a cash grab.

>>9768021
>>9768039
>>9768059
apparently the man who tried the dress on request of his daughter marred it in some way with his touch :^)

>>9768773
Um so how exactly do you know who sponsors her visa?

>>9768772
Do people shit on her? I've only seen people trying to warn her about who she's working with, and SS's video never attacked her directly, which is fair imo.

>>9768776
Yes.

>>9768772
i think they envy her
i have just read a forum where the first post was like "she has 30k subscribes, let's find something dirty about her" and then in several months they had found something

she just should tell them to fuck off, it's not a business of theirs whatsoever and in any way it's not even related to her, we are not responsible for the actions of others and are not supposed to take any personal stance on them

>>9766624
>art form
>let the con thots desecrate it
How about they all suck on tailpipes?

>>9768834
>people criticizing a popular youtuber for supporting a creeper
>must be jealousy!

>>9768838
Yeah but isn’t the ‚supporting‘ bit more a part of her job she is required to do?

>>9768838
by "supporting" you mean not ostracizing?
her relationships with her acquaintances is not your business, you could only be mad if she actively supported some forbidden behavior on her channel

>>9768809
Have you ever considered that some people actually know Cathy? I myself have been unfortunate enough to be used for fodder in her videos. And either way, it's very clear that AM/Shop in Wonderland has no connection to her visa IN JAPAN.
The only "shitting" people have done over the years is say they think she's an ita or has an annoying voice.
If you don't understand why a lot of people in the jfashion community, which is predominately female, would be upset that she partnered with someone who is a guaranteed thief and an accused sexual predator, I don't know what else to say.
She had nothing to lose besides money/media by cutting ties with John Leigh after the issues were brought to her attention. Instead of standing up, she screams "cyberbullies!!" and fraudulently claims copyright infringement against the people trying to bring the issue out into the open.

>>9768844
>trying to bring a personal matter of hers into the open

fixed it for you

>>9768855
It's not personal when it involves the international niche fashion community she's a part of.

>>9768844
But if she is required by her job to NOT cut the ties with them she would very much get in trouble.

>>9768855
In what capacity is it a personal matter? She participated in a professional relationship with Shop in Wonderland. which she then publicly advertised. People are calling her out on that.

>>9768870
she is criticized for refusing to take a stance against her acquaintance/friend which she is in no way supposed to do, it's not your business to demand it. personally i rather like her loyalty to her friend

if you dislike the guy criticize him directly, don't try to make other people turn on him, but i bet you don't give a shit about that guy and what he's done when she is not affected

>>9768878
>her acquaintance/friend
If this is your attempt at defending her you're doing her a disservice, because if she's befriended a pervert (rather than just a business associate she's tied to because of her profession) then it speaks volumes about her as a person, and frankly makes the situation worse and the criticism all the more justified.

>>9768878
She can stand by the Leighs all she wants, but she'll suffer the consequences, just like any other public figure would.
I couldn't care less about Cathy desu, the only reason I've even thought about her in the last year is because of this drama. There's no excuse for defending creeps and thieves.

>>9768866
Wouldn’t her job also not want anything to do with a man who’s a thief and harasser? But she’s just feeding the sob story that she’s being bullied. Hope she is happy with being ostracized from the worldwide lolita community.

sometimes i think that thought police from "1984" is getting real, nowadays you are actually told what you are supposed to think and they try to punish those who refuse to comply

>>9768911
True, like when a media channels with hundred thousand of subscribers want people to think that shoddy businesses like AM and SiW are valid and genuine, while putting young women and actual genuine businesses like fashion brands and artists at risk, and then threatening to sue when people try to spread the truth. Funny how that works.

>>9768911
Sorry you got called out on your bullshit and *triggered*

>>9768902
Actually yes they would. Japanese companies do not care about such stories too much.

What's with that EGL's Controversial Court thing? It just looks like a more heavily moderated RCU...
>Also lol at how they are all trying to avoid discussing /cgl/

The sissy on reddit has kept me entertained today.

>>9769568
This fucking fetishist probably can't even name one dress or brand

>>9761051
Nah, mintyfrills is just an enormous shit stirrer.

>>9769568
Njoying, is he...

Sorry, but what?

>>9768878
>i bet you don't give a shit about that guy and what he's done when she is not affected
Thanks for confirming that you haven’t been paying attention to anything that’s going on at all.

>>9770344
I’ve lost all patience with itas who constantly ignore all the genuine advice they get and just spout “you hate me because I’m not rich!!”. You’d have to be deliberately obtuse to not get this. Having money for new brand helps, but I know so many well dressed and popular lolitas who wear secondhand, Taobao, handmade and other less expensive options who have never been shit on for not wearing $600 (bitch, where) AP dresses. People like this don’t want to acknowledge this, they just want to put their fingers in their ears and scream about all of us being snobby bitches. Okay, fine, go find a different hobby if you’re so insistent on hating us no matter what. And maybe stop hanging around and spreading lies, because that’s just pathetic.

Is there even a definite guide on the style? Since this board is full of lolita I can't help not to notice that no definite source is ever brought up when somebody is called on misusing the term/wearing wrong stuff etc.

>>9770352
There are tons of tips and handbooks out there. If you’re somehow incapable of googling things yourself, the /cgl/ sticky links to a few of them even if it is outdated.

We really need to get hellolace out of there at some point.

>>9770349
Plus wasn’t this girl a troll? Anne frank or something

>>9770344
Sorry left off the bottom bit

>>9770344
>>9770362
Let me guess, someone can't even coord Bodyline.

>>9770447
I considered responding, but then I looked at the blog and they are a stereotype SJW blog.
Someone pointed out how the video is a joke and they just responded that they are autistic and therefore can't understand sarcasm.

>>9770449
>doesn't understand joke
>still stands by what they said

Why complain about the price of lolita when you don't even wear it though? You could probably post a picture of some old Bodyline and they'd claim it retailed for $300 or something just to 'prove' their point.

>>9770352
Google is your friend

That's funny you say we need to grow up when you're a member of a little kink community.

How dumb and attention-seeking do you have to be? Her instagram is right there, you just want to seem like a super kind and lovely uwu person for spreading positivity.
Not everything has to be public, pm your compliment and go. Nice to know she literally hasn't changed and is stull playing the community like a fiddle.

>>9770667
dropped pic like a dumbass

>>9770511
oh my god gulls, she's right! We've done been called out, time to pack up and leave

>>9770668
>>9770667
Clearly she meant "who is she on FB". Hating on her for every little thing is such a tired meme

And in b4 you claim that I'm her - an even more exhausted meme

>>9770667
k8 h8? gr8 b8 m8

>>9770684
I maintain that she could have pmed the girl on instagram instead of doing a public show about it. It's disingenuous.

Anyways, I really want to like her, but she's doing what we all predicted - she came back when the drama died down with a different style and an even bigger boner for efame. All her current instagram posts seem to be reaching for it, you can't deny. She chucked out all her million underskirt dresses and now dresses in that 2010 sweet that anons here were saying they miss. She's got a formula for it.

Maybe you too had to pm that bdsm-looking girl instead on posting her in the ita thread, where is the difference here?

>>9770344
But this is so obviously a joke. Why are people legitimately angry over this? I could make this exact same video back in collage with my roommates because we all had the same macbook. Why are people this stupid?

>>9770687
This is a board for adults, anon

>>9770719
Some people just want to feel oppressed and victimised by everything and if believing that some other girl has five MacBooks and wears $600 dresses helps maintain that mentality, they’ll fool themselves into believing it.

>>9770719
It reminds me that "think different" pic with about a hundred people in an auditorium with macbooks, students of some American uni. It is hilarious how much burgers love macbooks and iphones. Typing it on my android xiaomi redmi 4x from aliexpress btw

>>9770668
> SO FRESH AND SICKENING WOW IM JUST DECEASED

when you watch rupaul's drag race for the first time

>>9770730
The unfortunate thing is I went to a big name US art collage and they literally forced us to buy and use macbooks because Apple was a huge donator. The cost was automatically included in our first year tuition and there was no way to take it out. Worst computer I've ever had t b h.

>>9770762
>collage

>>9770730
I went to a Jap art uni and everyone was forced to buy a macbook, as they are supposedly the best for design and such. The worst £2k I've ever spent in my life, I wish I could have kept using my £500 superior hp

>>9770780
My macbook ended up dying 2/3 of the way through and I just bought an HP instead of getting it repaired. Anyone that says Apple is superior for art and design programs has no idea what they're talking about. I ended up building my own PC after -college- and it's 1000x better then any mac I've used.

As a lolita living a BDSM lifestyle (not ageplay) with her gf jfc just keep it SEPARATE and PRIVATE it's not that difficult. Why do they feel the need to plaster it everywhere? Aren't they embarassed?

>>9770886
>As a lolita living a BDSM lifestyle
>jfc just keep it SEPARATE and PRIVATE
>Why do they feel the need to plaster it everywhere?
Are you being ironic?

>>9770892
It's an anonymous board, litteraly nobody knows who i am and i didn't go into details either. Was just saying that as someone that is into "that" kind of stuff, it's not that fucking difficult to keep it private. There are websites for it if you wanna talk about it but there's litteraly no need to out yourself to your local comm or on social media.

>>9768834
But we can and should oppose people who support sexual predators.

>k8 posts deleted
Back at it again with being bffs with the janitors

>>9770344
>checks this person's Tumblr
>they are transracial
>reads their definition

Damn, guess I'm transracial too

>>9764484
maybe calm down and stop blindly whiteknighting..? it's been at least a solid 2 years if not longer, that's what I remember from the discussion, and clearly >>9761203 also knows what I was referring to - it was some kind of in-comm cap that was also shared somewhere on /cgl/ and discussed both in Swedish and English, but my archive search skills are failing me and I don't save every image I ever come across on 4chan. I seriously thought it was common knowledge on /cgl/ but maybe I'm more of an oldfag than I thought I was. I did find reference to when she was using a baby bottle phone case which is already weird as fuck in itself, but no caps from me, sorry (as that image has also magically vanished, it seems).

like, if she happens to be reading this, sorry for 'outing' you here, and I do actually respect the way you've dealt with it as it was exemplarily done - addressing, confirming and clearly stating it's part of your private life and something you refuse to put out into the public is the way to go, regardless of the exact kink and community involved.

>>9770886
I feel the same, anon. I’m in the bdsm community as well but it’s the last thing I’d talk about at a meet or anywhere else outside of my bedroom and specific sites. I want to keep my sexual life private and I don’t want to know what others do, no matter if it’s vanilla or not.

>>9768844
It's obvious she only cares about herself and her dreams of being famous, or else she'd have severed ties. You can't say to your fans, "hey, fuck all of you, i'm keeping my job bitchesss!" so that's why she had to block and ignore the ~cyberbullies~, most of whom were trying to warn her that her reputation would be destroyed if she didn't do something about it. She should follow her own advice and pick a new hobby cause we have no use for her anymore.

>>9770779
They did say it was an art school

Has anyone heard of the group Frilly Feminists? Its a toxic shit hole, full of snowflakes and tumblr fucks. The person from that ruffle chat thread about non-binary lolitas runs it, and its a fucking cesspool.

I had to leave it because of the toxicity but its worth it to join just to see how fucked up these peoples views actually are.

>>9771676
What sort of views do they hold?

>>9771676
>run by a non-binary “feminist”
A toxic shithole you say? What a surprise.

>>9771680
tumblr snowflake views. They only want to hear their POV, and anyone elses is wrong.

>>9771639
>we have no use for hervanympre

As if she ever needed us. As if she cares about the lolita community.
Her fanbase is mostly weebs.

>>9771680
this was the groups admin in the rufflechat group, and she went on a rant how that straight people shouldn't be allowed to be a part of the discussion, and then screen capped it and posted it for ass pats in her toxic group.

>>9771698
sorry, I meant that the frilly feminist's group admin said this, not the rufflechat admin, just for clarification.

>>9771693
But what are their actual views?

>>9771707
Go look for yourself? I'm not in their group any more so I couldn't tell you.

From my perspective, their view is very narrow, and they haven't really defined their "Views" apart from ostracizing straight people.

>>9771612
>Cgl can keep trying to force negative implications with words like whiteknighting and hugbox onto the concept of human decency, but that's not gonna stop me.

So standing up for others is seen as a bad thing, but discussing their private matters and making statements based on nothing but years-old hearsay and far reaching (a bottle phone case? Really?) is perfectly acceptable.
"That person clearly stated that it's something they refuse to put out into the public -- so I'm gonna do it for them" -- how much of an asshole are you, really.

>>9771612
don't mention it unless you have proof.
I mean, it's that simple.
>I heard you were into scat, anon, but I don't have the caps
>darn my terrible google-fu! but here's this other anon comment to back me up!!

judging you.

Is there a facebook group that isn't BSOL, that would help with coords? For example, pictures of people wearing a certain dress? I hope that makes sense. I know we have those threads on here, but sometimes things get over looked, or get smart ass comments lol

>>9762476
>>9762483
D's comm has only met D a handful of times and they never mentioned anything about being misgendered. Say something in person if it bugs you so much don't expect everyone else in the comm to know you think you're male when you dress and sound like a girl. D also doesn't seem to understand how meetups work and likes to mass post on event pages. I don't need tons of notifications 3 hours before the event because you can't make a plan on where to get dinner.

>>9772678
If not it would be cool to make one, like a general "lolita coord help and crit" group. I really enjoy giving and getting feedback myself.

>>9772678
Just search for the print name on insta and tumblr.

>>9772706
She's now claiming on RC to be an EMT and in medical school (like finished undergraduate). Is she even 18?!?! This person is so damn delusional.

>>9772906
Yeah okay so which one is true Dev? You're a medical student now? They posted this not even a month ago in another thread about profession.

Oh god why.

>>9772920

>>9772920
Lord, what amino was this posted in?

>>9772910
I recall her saying in amino before she flounced that she was 16, there's no way she's in med school lmao

>>9772910
>>9772906
Which one of you bitches is this? Doing the lords work you are.

>>9773187
Well it looks like someone called her out on her shit in the STEM thread. Wonder if she'll respond or just delete it?

>>9761376
yea, how awful!!!!

well, enough /cgl/ for me today, going to go play GTA V and pretend to murder people. I'm so glad murder is socially acceptable.

>>9773339
Oh no. They're still trying to defend their lies. Now they're saying they'll complete medical school at 20 years old! Someone call Guinness World records!

>>9773358
hi stefan

>>9773425
What prompted this?

>>9773439
Probably being called out about in the Rufflechat STEM thread about for totally finishing Med school by the age of 20.

>>9773442
Caps?

>>9773444
Sorry for the watermark

>>9773444
Oops wrong cap

>>9772920
why would you use the sigma as an o...

>>9773425
If they're bullies shouldn't they be called bullitas?

>>9773448
I'm starting to think shes stretching things to seem cooler. There are junior EMT programs that require parent permission, but theyre like extra curriculars; you dont get paid for them. you still have to apply to be an actual EMT afterwords and get REAL training. "med school" might refer to the training programs for paramedics which are about 24 months long.

i still think shes talking out of her ass entirely since its pretty solid shes under 18, but i guess this could be one way to break it down? I can say I've never seen a kid working in my hospital.

>>9773456
Are they definitely US? You could start a medical college course in the UK at sixteen, but our college =/= uni.

And we don't say EMT in the UK so...

>>9773459
Yes, I'm fairly certain shes in a comm near me actually (i've seen her post in the groups). And in the USA you cant be an EMT under the age of 18. "med school" is generally referring to a 4 year undergrad program with god knows how many years post grad, but then theres basically med trade school that lasts roughly 24 months for things like phlebotomists, techs, paramedics, etc.

>>9773448
>med school
Odds are she's an early college student at the local community college and her 'med school' is the nursing area with the dummies.

>>9771689
Ugh. This pisses me off. Feminist groups should be run by women. I'm including trans women who are genuinely transitioning and can no longer benefit from male privilege, they don't bother me, but I would hate to be part of a feminist group whose leaders hate femininity so much that they're trying to check out from it.

>>9773186
Lolita amino. It got removed within 20 mins of being up.

>>9773466
Now she’s on Lolita 101 Amino ranting about meanie weenie lolis.

>>9773801
From what ruffles my petti

>>9773456
>>9773459
>>9773466
According to her FB she lives in Maryland. In MD you can get the EMT cert at 16 or 16 with parental permission. That said, I highly doubt anyone would actually hire a minor to be and EMT and it's a long shot away from "med school".

>>9773807
16 or 17* god dammit I can't fucking type

>>9773806
did you even try to block out that name anon

>>9773811
Of course.

>>9773806
The Mod and D are just so gay for each other.

>>9773807
They may be eligible to take the test by some weird state loop hole, but the national certification to be hired can not be obtained until one is 18. So it's basically useless until then.

>>9773807
You can't be a certified EMT if you're under 18 in Virginia, but iirc that applies to all states, as well as Canada. With the certification taking 24+ months, she'd have to be at least 20 to be able to work as an EMT. You can start the application process and some course load prior to being 18, but there's no way that she's a licensed EMT at this point, but with her backpedalling it looks like she's no longer claiming to be an EMT yet.

>>9772678
there's lolita mentors/mentoring (idr) also

>>9773425
>tfw so ~innocent and pure~ I don’t even know that cgl is part of 4chan UwU
Before you condemn a large group of people for posting here, maybe first double check what you’re taking about? Acting confused about something so simple doesn’t make you look like a nicer person, it makes you look like an idiot.

>>9773456
>I'm starting to think shes stretching things to seem cooler
lol ya think

>>9773807
>>9773817
>>9773819
She pretty much admitted that her “EMT training” is literally just ridealongs, which she considers training. By that logic I was training as both a police officer and aircraft engineer at 16.

>>9773832
Yeah what I dislike about that group is that only official "mentors" are allowed to advise anyone, so it can be quite slow.
A more freeform version where anyone can contribute would be more active and beneficial imo

>>9773870
Wow! It's so amazing that at sixteen you were a student, lolita, online forum commenter, police officer, and an aircraft engineer! You're my hero!

(but seriously, if she saw this it'd really ruffle her pettis knowing someone else did more than what she's claiming to do)


What strikes me as really amusing about D is that she's like the living embodiment of the trick you do for resumes. The whole "Help a kid with their math homework for ten minutes? You have tutoring experience." trick to make your resume look better for employers.

Ride along in an ambulance with some paramedics? EMT trainee!
Your dog pregnant? Dog whelper!
Take recreational classes on CPR? Medical student on an accelerated course!

>>9773914
Well actually my dad is an aircraft engineer and took me to work when I was little so really I've been in training as an aircraft engineer since I was a toddler! Oh and yeah we had CPR classes in elementary school so I've also been in training as a first responder since I was 10. Not to mention a lolita from birth, of course.

How old is this girl currently? 16? That's a bit old to still be a pathological liar since most kids grow out of it at 13 or 14, but there's still time for her to grow up. I hope she does and then feels super embarrassed about all of this later. I'm glad all of my dumb teenage shenanigans were limited to Gaiaonline instead of Facebook and I never posted any photos or my real name.

>>9773920
Yeah, we're definitely lucky we were kids/teens before FB because all our bullshit was contained to game forums under usernames. Now you've got people like Momokun (cosplayer, but still) who sperged out on Twitter and stuff as a teen saying all this racist and generally dumb shit that's still available years later and linked to her name.

>>9773806

>>9773448
"chemicals in the lab" yeah she has no idea what she's talking about

>>9773920
>>9773922
facebook really became a force/the leading social network around the time I was 12 or 13, and I'm eternally grateful that my kid ass at least realised to keep my real name and my online identity separate/under an alias

>>9773938
good, stop, you're embarrassing yourself further every time you post

>>9773938
Maybe now she'll leave for a while

I'm pretty sure D's on here and was posting all over the ita thread. Outbursts are in that writing style they post all over RC and ... and ... and ... and Uhhh?? What was it? Face book?

>>9773979
Caps?

>>9773448
does she even own any lolita?

>>9774086
Surprisingly enough she does, and shes not an awful dresser. Shes just intolerable as a human being.

>>9773938
Is this the one who called an indie designer a bitch when the designer tried to explain that gluing a bow on a replica purse doesn't make it okay to bring to a brand event?

>>9774205
>gluing a bow on a replica purse doesn't make it okay to bring to a brand event
I swear I miss out the best shit that happens on FB.

>>9774205
>>9774207
1/3

>>9774220
2/3

>>9774223
Forgot to mention the context of BMT's original question which was something along the lines of wanting to know if there were any non brand star purses that weren't replicas because she wanted to be able to bring it to a brand tea party. People gave her options and for some reason she decided she wanted to buy a replica after all and this was the result

3/3

>>9774220
I mean shit, if you want to buy a knockoff a redecorate it, fine, that can totally work! But just don't take it with you to the brand meetup? That's literally all you have to do.

>>9774226
>calls everyone trying to help her a bitch
>"I'm new I'm still learning!!1"
How about you learn how to be a decent human being first? Holy shit, the attitude on this girl.

>>9773938
Is she saying she herself is autistic or is she calling the ‘haters’ autistic?

>>9774227
Pretty much what everyone told her (there were a lot of comments) but somehow that turned into lolitas are bitches attacking her for a shape. Then when she found out one of the comments was an indie brand designer (the one in purple I think) she started furiously backpedaling and crying about her autisms

>>9774226
>People gave her options and for some reason she decided she wanted to buy a replica after all and this was the result

This is one of the weirder things about itas, they seem to get into these self-bullying tracks where they'll find out exactly what other people dislike and go full steam and do it, then cry later that nobody likes them/their outfit.

Is it some kind of teenager brain hormonal activity that makes them try to seek out being unique or something? Some kind of latent BDSM urges in denial? Some sort of boundary-pushing instinct to see how strong the group rules are?

I mean I'm not saying you should be a doormat and do what other people say, but if you already know most people don't like a thing, either you do it quietly and live with the disapproval, or the approval matters to you and you don't. Why go ahead and do the one thing people seem to dislike, then turn around and try to gain approval from the same group when you already know they don't like the thing you want to do?

>>9774223
>>9774226
>asks for opinions
>gets opinions
>”please leave me alone”
Why did she ask at all?

>>9774240
I think most teenagers (and immature twenty-somethings) need something to rebel against to establish their identity, but instead of rebelling against something real which might actually affect their life in some way, these types find some online group and go in with a contrary, combative attitude. Then when people there react as expected they act like they’re being violently oppressed by a dictatorial regime. All the self-righteous fury with none of the risk.

>>9774261
She’s not a teenager, she’s an adult in her 20’s

All LH posts go through mods, can someone explain what the hell this is?

>>9773456
either way that's like saying you've got a doctorate when you're an undergrad. Not the same at all, it's still a lie.

>>9773938
she can't go one post without mentioning her autism can she

>>9774576
What the fuck?

>>9761649
I get what vetting is, but what are you vetting for exactly?

>>9774576
It sounds like some rando called her princess peach and she doesn't understand why with her bear ear hairstyle. The first part sounds like it's supposed to be sarcastic (I hereby call myself princess peach).

>>9773448
I go to classes in the medical school on campus, am I in med school too? Or do people other than those studying medicine also count as 'med students' in the US?

>tfw comm keeps making events on weekdays
>tfw meets are also at times like 3-5pm
>tfw meets are also usually an hour from where I live
>tfw comm makes rule where if people don't attend a certain amount of meets they'll be kicked
I mean I get the reasoning for the rule but why the fuck do they keep planning meets on weekday afternoons?

>>9774270
>(and immature twenty-somethings)

>>9775388
Why not host your own meets?

>>9775375
Lol no. "Med school" is explicitly MD or DO school or beyond into a specialty. Not even PAs, Nurses, or Med Techs call school "medical school" even though they know a lot more than an EMT.

>>9771676
they let an autogynophile who doesnt even wear lolita post there even after people complained to the mod gurl

>>9768776
I don’t get these people. What’s so dirty about this particular man? The girls complaining are probably straight too so you can’t say they just find men in general gross

Michigan comm I am so sorry.

>>9775793
What?? Why does she need permission from the community to wear a petticoat under some random skirt?

>>9775388
My comm plans their meets on weekends, typically Saturdays at around noon. I work as a Dispatch operator from 6 pm to 6 am. Usually don’t get to bed till like 9 or 10 am. So If I want to go to a meet, I have to sacrifice my sleep in order to attend. But my comm also doesn’t boot you for not attending meets as long as you are active on the community page. At least they understand that some people are not able to attend middle of the day meets.

>>9775793
When/where is this from, because it wasn't posted to that group recently?

This twat has messaged me privately and a few of my well dressed friends about this. Like I get it, your house burned down. But asking for free hand outs from complete strangers because “ Lolita is expensive” isn’t a priority after a fire. This is obviously not a “ I need help my house burned down” situation if you are asking anyone who has a obvious closet of brand for free hand outs. That’s not how this works. Get you damned house together and all that shit before you start wanting to recover the things that are not critical to living. And when you get to that point, don’t ask for free shit by playing your sad violin. Save up and buy it your damned self.

>>9775972
>Lolita merch
Probably doesn't even wear the fashion desu

>>9775883
Posted Saturday night but it's deleted now.
Damn I couldn't cap fast enough but it turned into her posting pictures of lolita skirts from Amazon in the comments but I didn't see the fallout after.

>>9775972
>A lot of lolita stuff

Her "lolita stuff" was actually 1 pair of shoes and supposedly a dress her grandma made. She was asking for real dresses people paid for and accessories, blouses, socks, etc. She got called out for essentially being a scam and cried to the mods about it

>>9776059
Deets! Caps! Share!

>>9773801
That's a dude anon

>>9775972
I hate scammy fucks like this.
Even if their house burnt down, which I doubt is actually true, I'm not going to give them a penny.
Should have insured your home and belongings like the rest of us bitch.

>>9776062
She eventually left the chat after being called out

>>9776066
Sorry to break it to you D, but you're a girl. We all know you're a girl, stop being so delusional you think you can convince anyone else.

>>9776073
Actually,it's Pettyful.

>>9776071
Anon you didn't show the dress that was a replica of a replica.

>>9776062

>>9776092
Was it this hell. If itnwas, that fire did everyone a favor. Also why is it always “ my grandma made it then she died” their go to story? I mean your first sob story didn’t convince me so you choose the “ my Grandma died” route? I don’t care if you will die tomorrow, I’m not giving you free shit because you think you’re entitled to it.

>>9776101
No, that's the dress that made an iron commit suicide, not grandma's last gift.

>>9776097
You need to do Artsian-chan.

>>9776105
And another piece of cringe for their drama

>>9776104
What if grams committed suicide with an iron for making that horrible monstrosity.

>>9776105
You know, I remember this. Ok I'll have get up after I'm done with Cathycat.

>>9776115
Need any more deets? Because she claims she’s starting HRT next week.

>>9776116
Sure. It all helps.

>>9776116
Do you have separate pictures anon or do you only have the collage?

>>9776123
I have some but not all on that collage. I saved them from the archives

>>9776145

>>9776147

>>9776106
>a group of people who absolutely will not invalidate your gender

>>9776149

Cuntycat is up.

>>9776071
The anime icon somehow makes it worse. Filthy weeb.

>>9775162
vetting discord = you need to show evidence you're an actual lolita to get in, as opposed to the other discords that are open to random sissies and creeps

>>9776206
you do realise literally nobody cares, right? if you want to actually be helpful or raise awareness of the LWLN/Leighs situation, learn to write, stop name-calling just for the sake of it and stop whoring yourself out for attention. you're being just as cringy as the people you're trying to drag.

>>9776206
This is the edgiest thing I've ever seen, and I am a very edgy person myself. You're just giving Leighs and Cathy proof for the internet bullying

>>9776206
Shape up. You could've been so much classier about this instead of acting like an edgy teen

>>9776206
And people were saying Cathy was lying about rape and death threats when people like this exist.

>>9775972
9/10 says thats not even her picture. Probably lying to get free shit

>>9776322
oh yeah, also.
My house burned down too. To the fucking ground. I lost everything I had. I didnt even have a pair of shoes. All I had was my pajamas and socks on. An I never begged for a fucking thing.

>>9776206
Is this your work anon? It is absolute cringe.

>>9776322
It was. In the chat last night someone found the pic on google.

>>9768842
These allegations aren't new. She's had the option to not even do business with them in the first place.

>>9774226
This BMT girl has such a weird attitude in any online community I've seen her, I'm almost sure she's the same person who told someone to sell a dress that was sent to them by accident instead of sending it back or even telling the seller. Definitely shady.

>>9776284
>>9776288
>>9776298
>>9776309
>>9776328

Cuntycat is that you?

>>9775525
Thanks, I wondered if it was a country difference. I'm studying dentistry and don't say I'm in med school so I wondered how 'loose' it was in that girl's country

>>9776429
you need to stop.

>>9776429
anon I dislike cathycat as much as the next person but this is really embarrassing. this is the shit that keeps people feeling bad for her because you're genuinely being an edgelord

>>9761051
Mintyfrills is an age player too

>>9776145
I'm glad that this ask I sent resulted in such an iconic response lol

>>9776429
Probably is her. Because all the others being posted where for a good laugh, but now that this one was made. All of a sudden you’re and “ edge lord” and “cringe”. Some people just don’t know how to not defend themselves making it harder for shit to blow over into oblivion.

>>9774220
this bitch posted in the coord help thread so she comes here

>>9776689
you have to be 18 or older to use 4chan

>>9776707
Sorry you can handle being posted cuntycat. Stop trying.

>>9776737
Literally no, and for someone trying to criticize others you need to learn how to take criticism, you are SO embarrassing right now.
The situation with cathy supporting a sexual predator and promoting him to her fanbase of underaged girls could be outlined and explained in a concise way that just states the facts in a way she cannot refute, like Tyler did.
XDD what a dumb cunt XDDDD im so edgy and funny XDDDDDDD Just gives her more fuel to say "See? I'm being bullied here is proof!" Because you made yourself look like a fucking retard. And now you're butthurt because you can dish it but you can't take it.

>>9776787
>bitches about poor behavior
>flys off the handle with poor behavior like a child.

Yup, that’s how you do it. Sure tough me a lesson.

>>9776851
dude you're really digging yourself into a hole you should stop.

>>9776851

>>9776900
>>9776902
I’m curious. Why is this one worth commenting about and the others are not? That amino has been making profiles for itas for the past week and no ones said any thing. But now that Cathy cat is being posted there’s a shit storm of “ stop doing this, it’s proving you’re a bully to her”. You know how this board runs. You comment on things and start this whole “stop bullying” garbage only gets people to hackle you more and more to see you post. I don’t think your Cathy cat, but I do know you’re a troll trying to keep this steam train running. I simply want to know why if it’s not to intentionally derail the thread

>>9776689
The others were cringy too, but not as high profile as CC. Taking petty potshots at CC is a bad idea right now because it helps to invalidate legitimate criticism against her and the Leighs by supporting their claim that lolitas are just drama-hungry bullies who can’t be believed. I dislike her as much as the next gull but in this situation it’s best to only come at her with objective criticism and not outright bullying which this amino is.

>>9776962
Thank you for having a more thought out answer then shitty “ you must be 18 to use this site” memes. It’s better to just give the answer then to add to the cringe.

>>9776429

>>9777000
Because proxy posting is totally not a thing. This proves nothing. Learn how this board works.

>>9776983
Like three people said the exact same thing to you though and you became defensive and butthurt instead.
>>9777071
Ohh my god you are so embarrassing.
More than one person has enough maturity to understand why what you posted actually benefits CC, and no one is obligated to be nice to you so acting like "oh thanks for being nice I don't listen to people if they aren't considerate of mg fragile feelings" is so ridiculous.
Congrats on thoroughly discrediting petty frills.

>>9777079
Im>>9776983 and I always thank people for actually taking time to have a proper answer and not edgelord comments like yours. People should be thanked for being civil people and informing others. People who sperg out and and saying “ your fee fees got hurt faggot” shouldn’t be thanked for being faggots.

>>9773700
90% of Frilly Feminists are tumblrina's and probably didn't get enough attention from mommy and daddy.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were against mens rights in that toxic waste dump.

Many people have left because of their double standards.

>>9776097
not even Mr Yan wants her

>>9776206
Anon, can you do one on naturally racist chan next please?

>>9777252
Naturally racist chan? Pics?

>>9777113
Except that when a lot of people said "wow, this is pretty cringy and edgy and doesn't really help" her response was XDDDDDD cuntycat is dat u XD no one else would call me edgy?!???
Even when people did explain it civilly. She did not listen. Until you coddled her. Which goes to show she probably should not be running a crit amino if she cannot take criticism, lashes out like a child when she receives it, kicks and screams and covers her ears when people explain it unless she gets coddled and spoken to """nicely""" are you kidding.

>>9777113
Also it doesn't really matter if I'm an edgy faggot, I'm not the one running and amino pretending I have any room to criticize other people. I love the idea of petty frills but its retarded for someone so cringy to pretend she has any room to speak about others like that.

>>9777379
Honestly you're starting to get almost as cringey as edgelord-chan. Calm down.

>>9777566
This.

>>9770344
lol this is OP

>>9760613
new thread?

>>9776206
>messily
anon, did you mean to use measly there?