/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Was selling at the AA. Made only $544 this time around. Paid for my table but offered to share it with a friend for free. All my merch is outdated too though. Shame on me. Next year I’ll probs go just for fun.

First time splurging so much over one goddamn figure. The Persona 5 1/8 figure was $135. Kirito and the Fairy Tail plushies are for my nieces

Waiting for the photo dump

Woke up to find a rat had shit on the sleeping bag/blanket setup we had going on and told the staff. They walked in, picked it up, and said "that isn't rat poop you tracked that in from outside" and left. We argued with them some more at the front desk and they insisted that there are no rats at the hotel but also insisted that it wasn't something that involved them since it was a "building problem." We moved rooms since they basically told us it was move rooms or check out and saw rats running around the parking lot from our 3rd story window.

They're gonna get a fun call tomorrow.

How the fuck have they gotten this much worse? Staying at the Azure from now on and using the Rachetgate for when I feel like shitting on the floor.

#metoo

Does anyone know about that guy who butt chugged a tidepod and had the ambulance called?

On a scale of 1 to 10, how activated were you by Momokun's Roadhog cosplay?

>>9768884
You mean the person that got hauled off I’m the ambulance?

>>9768887
It was a cosplay that fit her body-type for once so I can’t complain.

>>9768887
Very

>>9768800
I saw a really cute girl who was selling her art but i was shy also I didn't have any money, but i would have fucked the shit out of her btw

>>9768861
Skaven do not exist, citizen

Since this was my first year, what was up with those ribbons?

>>9768792
>sleep with a Trap cosplayerbecause I was curious
>their dick was bigger than mine
Is this normal?
>tfw we cuddled afterwards and they were the small spoon but I couldnt get my mind off it

>>9768899
Which art anon? Do you recall the booth #?

I want to see photos of the cosplay deviant party. How was it? How was that contest?

>>9768949
Start training your asshole because your dick is useless.

>>9768920
Its an ALA tradition. People make and hand out and trade ribbons for quizes, mini games, inside jokes, cosplay, etc lot of ALA attendees try to collect as many as they can. Just check on instagram/twitter. It can get pretty nits and its one of ALAs charms.

Had a good time, finally got to meet Wendee Lee, now have enough okay cosplays to lazily go to pretty much any con

>Go to gathering in cosplay

>Posing for photoshoot with fellow cosplayers

>Someone ends up bringing out this ginormous plushie for the shoot

>They end up having me pose by having me hold it up with my foot

>Trying not to die because in heels

>Hours later I hear from my friend that the owner of the plushie wanted to talk to me

>Apparently he went on an autismo stupido screeching rampage because I had my foot on his precious $1k plushie

>Same dude always forces his shit into the fucking middle of the photo shoots he shows up to

>He had no qualms back then when people were tripping and stepping on his shit when no one wanted it there

Majority of the girls in this fandom don't even show up to the gatherings because of shit like this and I am about ready to peace the fuck out along with them.

> Buy artbook
> Bring home
> There's a tear
> [External swearing]

>cosplaying as mukuro ikusaba imposing as Junko
>My friend sees Jenzo and started to take pictures but Jenzo wasn't pointing to the camera but was crossing his arms at me.
>I didn't get it
>My friend began LOLing
>I stood dumbfounded and I kinda waved back at the Jenzo then I left
>Friend chased me explaining the Meta joke about Jenzo being anti-traps
>Tfw felt like a retarded normie. I still feel bad for not understanding & playing along even after the con ended

>some guy asks to take professional pictures of my cosplay
>Do it because he seemed like a nice guy and had a nice camera and gear
>Standing with my arms spread for hours because that's my characters pose
>Finally get done
>guys gives me his card for all his social media where he will share those photos
>mfw he hasn't updated any of his webpages in over a year and a half.

>>9769170
That's pretty common though.

>yfw ALA is now over and the post con depression is kicking in

>>9769208
Only 6 more months until AX tho

I didn't go this year. I heard the con was overall meh. What I didn't know was that someone I know on FB said that someone on here threatened to shoot up the place and it was windy af on the last day.

Look like they found a car full on ammos and two guns near Ontario airport.
https://latimes.com/local/ontarion/ontarion_police_found_anbandoned_vehicle_fulls_of_ammos_two_weapon

>>9769014
Saw these two on the stripper pole in one of the convention center rooms

>>9769258
Were they good?

>>9769228
>tfw fearing for AX now

>>9769283
AX has actual LAPD on the scene. Not sure what security ALA had this year since I didn't go.

>>9769228
cool fake link

>>9769285
They had some cops and metal detector+bag checks outside the main building. Much more security than the last year which had nothing pretty much.

>>9769285
Not very much. I have pepper spray attached to my keys that I forgot about and they didn't even notice it when they checked my bag.

>>9769262
They mostly walked in circles around the pole while flipping people off

>>9769317
even better

>>9768982
I was at the cosplay meet up and know who you are talking about. He was sperging hard. I loved your Marisa cosplay btw!

>>9768982
>>9769381
I need pics

Cosplay meetups this year were meh, but the stuff for sale was pretty great at AA and the exhibit hall. Not as many shit cosplays as I expected.

>>9768887

I need pictures!! Pictures of cosplayers!

>>9769424
How do you feel about slavs

Don't be sad because it's over
Smile because it happened
I do wish Cons could last longer
but I hate starving myself ;__:

>>9768887
Man I already discussed this shit

Gross as fuck. Looks like she crammed her saggy flop flops into a b cup bra.

>>9768960
CosDev parties are never worth it. They’re sausage tests trying to fuck the 4 celeb girls, except worse because all the sausages are weebs.

>>9769220
We don’t go for the con we go for the ghetto ass parties.

>>9769448
Oh yeah Slav squad pics
I haven’t seen any yet

>>9769614
>> We don’t go for the con we go for the ghetto ass parties.

Then go to actual ghetto ass parties

>>9768887
i didnt even recognize her. i thought it was some fujoshi cow in an overwatch cosplay

>>9769629
It’s the eyes.

I saw a Mei and made a moomoo joke and she turned in my general direction and I was like holy fuck lmao it is her. Same with roadham. I made a moomoo joke based on gross it was with the side boob scrunchied up in the too small band, saw her eyes and laughed again that it was her.

Amazing con as always. Was super scared at debuting Raiden here since it technically isn't finished but I had so much fun in it. Great to see a lot of faces again and even though the Radison is no more, there was still so much fun and crazy stuff going on.

Still super upset I couldn't complete in CWF this time, but hopefully I'll make a comeback at Fanime depending on how things play out.

>got home yesterday
>parents told me my grandpa is sick, might not make it
>they told me he wanted to see me get married before he pass away
>they probably want children too
This is it. I might do it and will probably be my last con comes fanime and AX.

>>9769691
>not taking your wife and kids to cons with you to cons

Sorry about your grandpa, but there's no reason you have to give up a hobby once you have a family.

>>9769691
How fucking sick is he if you have time to start a family before he dies

>>9769711

So is it moving next year or was that just a possible consideration they’re talking about

I heard Anaheim

>>9769720
>agreeing with Adachi on anything ever

You fucked up.

Wasn't the masquerade any good this year? I heard ALA has nice backstage so I wanted to try it out next year.

>>9769728
*was

My bad. My autocorrect tends to change my words to random things if I type too fast.

i saw so many babies at this convention. it's like they're trying to get their kids sick AND have a shitty time at best. I don't understand why they don't hire sitters if they reserved hotel rooms the year before.

>>9768887
Activation level almonds

The "Tentcon" freakout and similar worries seem to all have been qualmed and I have to give massive props to the new management for making that happen

Anyone got pics of the Yoko with big tits?

>>9769801
Really? Every artist I've talked to is not coming back for next year due to the AA

>>9769807
The bimbo looking one with the one piece body?

Man I fucking wish.

I never take pics but I think I’m gonna get a good camera to have a photo day on last day

>>9768966
I gotta find a ribbon company that gives no shits about what's printed on them.

The one I went with last minute said they couldn't put the picture I wanted on there, and it was either cancel order or ship it with just text.

Anyone have good suggestions what online store to get ribbons made by?

>>9769812
You talked to some bitch baby artists. AA was fucking stellar and huge. The only thing they should have done was add more walking space between aisles since it was so open in the back.

>>9769170
A lot of photogs send stuff personally to cosplayers, or have moved to posting on fb/Insta. They sort of "set and forget" their websites nowadays. It's not like the 90's and early 2000's, where the only way to find your pics was google/yahoo search for people's album sites.

>>9769212
Fuck that piece of shit spiritually dead convention.

>>9769807
I don't think so
I found this one on twitter

>>9769825
I’m doing it next year but the websites I’ve seen that everyone uses is ribbons galore

>>9769826
NAYRT but you don't really know what the artists went through since you were an attendee. On Sunday, the winds were so bad that the entire tent was shaking (including the metal beams) and everything attached to the beams (the lights, the signage, etc). Artists were seriously discussing what to do if things fell from overhead and telling each other to duck and cover. I saw at least 3-4 displays that were knocked over due to the wind.

Even other than the shitty wind, the tent was fucking burning during the day since it's essentially a greenhouse and freezing as soon as the sun went down around 5 PM. If you're just browsing as an attendee, you probably wouldn't notice these things but when you have to sit in the tent for fucking 10 hours... it wasn't ideal.

Sales were down for everyone I've talked to as well (15+ artists in person as well as all the anons in the AA thread and the /cgl/ AA discord). Most people are reporting that they made around half of what they did last year since ALA doubled the number of artists. Artists have been passing around the feedback form online to tell the organizers that they're unhappy.

Literally the only people who are coming back are local artists. All the out of state artists I've talked to say they won't come back.

>>9769826
I can see AA being better for congoers than artists. Most of the artists I talked to said sales were slower this year in previous years (and ALA isn't an especially "spendy" con to begin with since it's way more of a hangout/party con) which is pretty typical when you expand the number of booths so suddenly with no significant increase in attendees to necessitate the move. On top of that, though, I heard some artists' displays fell over to the wind, most people were pretty worried about the constant creaking and moving of the tent in the high wind, no food policy, and the dramatic temperature/lighting change at the end of the day made it pretty uncomfortable for artists.

Obviously none of those are an issue if you're an attendee who can walk around and leave the tent if you want to, but it sounded like the physical experience for artists was overall pretty negative. The general LA artist community has also had to experience a fair amount of grief from AA conditions over the last couple of years (i.e garagecon AX) so I'm not surprised that the move was taken so poorly by them.

>>9769837
You know what

Those are valid points.

I didn’t even think of the wind on Sunday.

>>9769837
>Most people are reporting that they made around half of what they did last year since ALA doubled the number of artists

Oh no, I guess people are going to have to try harder next year on making stuff worth buying instead of relying on ugly Tumblr style art of FOTM ships and memes

>>9769825
I want in on this, where can I learn more about this "ribbon culture"?

>>9769855
It’s an ALA thing, some cons try to bring it over but it doesn’t last.

You basically just order custom ribbons and have qualifications to give them out.

Check ALA Facebook you’ll see examples of it.

Can we all agree that Werewolves was the best part of the entire con?

>>9769290
With all the people hanging around outside an attacker wouldn't even need to go through the metal detector. The cordon only protects those inside and that assumes the attacker can't just smash through the cordon ie shoot his way in

>>9769881
The people running the tabletop gaming are all cool peeps.

But I'm from /tg/, so I'm a bit biased.

>>9769881
Astolfo pls go

>>9769881
I like werewolves and all but ALA is not my con scene for that.

Colossal is though.

ALA was fun
There's some regrets, but mostly I feel like I was
exhausted the entire time (I've been in accidents a lot) and I've been resting on one/two knees every 10 minutes. I felt like an aut, but at the same time I couldn't help it.

There were a few ribbons I wanted.
I was looking for the squidward with googly eyes
also, the "Begone Thot" Ribbon.

Eating Denny's every night made me feel like crap since all of my roommates stayed up until 5AM.

What were some of your regrets Anons?

>>9770024
I regret not doing more panels, but that's about it. Honestly I had an amazing time.

>>9770024
I wanted to find the "Commoners Do Not Interact" ribbon so badly, but I never ended up getting one.

>>9769381
T-thanks senpai. Tfw cosplay was nothing like I wanted it to be.
>>9769395
I don't have pics of myself but the guy who runs the YouTube channel AccessAccess will probably upload a video of the gathering.

>>9770027
Yeah I agree
I was more busy with trading the "This is bait ribbon" mostly everyone enjoyed it
>>9770031
I couldn't find that one either!

Why are cosplay girls so tall this year? Like I'm 6'1 but there are girls that tower me and alot of them aren't wearing boots or high heels

>>9770050
They might not be girls, Anon
> :^)

>>9770050
>tfw ur 5’5 so u don’t even notice these amazons u just accept it and love it

>>9769867
Huh, I assumed you have to get them approved by the con or something.

>>9769837
>Artists have been passing around the feedback form online to tell the organizers that they're unhappy
You know staff do not give a flying fuck what is on those forms, right? Con feedback to ALA is like writing your grievances and tossing them in the trash bin

>>9770024
My regret is not taking more photos when I had the chance.

>>9770024
I regret not putting more time into the little details on my costume.
I'm used to Fanime's ten thousand rules that I didn't bother with anything borderline. Turns out ALA doesn't give a fuck.

I also regret even coming back on Saturday night. The dumb hentai panel got cancelled, and the Cosplay Deviants event had the enthusiasm of a strip club on Tuesday morning.

>>9770080
It’s a cosdev party what did you expect.

>>9768982
>>9769395
Sorry for the late reply here is the pic.

>>9770037
Just posted the said pic. Did you make the Hakkero yourself? It looked really well made

What are the opinions on masquerade? It and AMV both felt pretty meh like the rest of the con. Only a few good gems and I left halfway through both cuz it was just that dull.

>>9770037
> tfw u know one of these dudes as an old annoying college acquaintance and have seen that outfit up close in all its shit glory
dammit man i thought i had wiped this cosplay from my memory

>>9768982
I didn't get this story.

So he asked you to hold the plushie with your foot and then sperged about it after you already left the scene?

Why didn't he sperg immediately when he saw what you were doing?

Why did you agree to hold it?

That's if he asked you, if you stepped on his plushie without his permission then why are you mad the guy got upset, you are in wrong there?

>>9770121
The Hakkero is made by TheScarletImpaler on Etsy. He's the Jedi style Byakuren Hijiri from the gathering.
>>9770135
Lemme guess... It's the Miko cosplayer?

>>9770146
Are you retarded

>>9770061
No, there is a facebook group run by staff of ALA
Just announce your ribbon and challenge
if it's NSFW then you can't trade with staff just people who want the ribbon
But there are a lot of kids, so I'd recommend keeping them discrete.
>>9770065
Feelsbadman.wav
I feel the same way I was more focused on
trading and buying off the artist gallery
I spent all of my money on enamel pins

>>9770158
maybe you should get better at storytelling, other people don't know little details you think are obvious to you

>>9770153
Oh, I forgot to grab a business card from him. Gonna check out his Etsy now. Thanks.

>>9769832
shes hot

>>9770146
Someone else brought it out, it was falling over on the ground on it's own so they had me hold it up with my foot.
He chose not to remove it despite his apparent anger later.
I merely shared a story for shits and giggles, if you're gonna delve into the detailed psychology of a spur of the moment photoshoot you'll need to consult someone else.

>>9770090
No clue. Never been to one before.

>>9769283
why are you afraid of guns? I'm a 4chan shit poster and hav a few AR-15's just chilling on my bed right now and im a perfectly normal dude

>>9770153
What gave it away?

>>9770173
I kinda understand him getting pissy, but it is his own fault.

>>9770163
I didn’t tell the story I just know how to read one.

>>9770161
You don’t even have to announce it. Word spreads.

>>9770186

>>9770090
Girls who actually know how to pole dance and not just gyrate around it.

>>9770113
>touhou
wew lad there are many horrors lurking in /jp/ that should not leave their rooms

>>9770024
Regret not having more cosplay ready, not showing up friday, not seeing enough panels, and not making more than one set of ribbons.

Had a great time overall, however. But not having a hotel and having to drive back and forth between there and OC sucked.

>>9770113
>autist complains about you stomping on his $1000 plush, even though he set it down on the filthy ground.

That dudes a fuckin moron.

>>9769691
that is the worlds worst reason to get married

>>9768982
cali touhou cosplayers are the most autistic fucks. i refuse to go to touhou meets when i go down there now despite always wearing a touhou cosplay

>>9769720
Shut up anon

>>9768887
But did anyone get a video of those people by the food trucks calling her a thot

>>9769691
>life altering decision
>let's some dying guy make it who won't live to see how miserable it will eventually make you
>stuck with spouse and kids and no fun
>no money because you didn't plan for any of this or want it
>divorces spouse
>no money, sometimes kids
>meet sexy, fantastic spouse material
>spouse material you want won't date you because you have kids
>miserable and alone
>croaks feeblily on deathbed that your grandkid must follow the same path because the cycle of anguish must continue
>die

>>9770260
Wow, I can't imagine how much of a pain that is. I'm from Alhambra and underestimated how long it would take me to get to Ontario.

>>9770271
MILK is a qt though.

>>9770050
I saw a really tall Kotori cosplayer, she was super cute!

>>9769844
Artist here - I really hated the wind, it was really strong and pretty alarming on Sunday. I did stay the whole time so luckily there wasn't any issues but it was definitely pretty off-putting.

I am local-ish (I live 1.5hrs away, but still need a hotel), and it was my first time tabling. I walked away with a decent profit but I don't think I'd like to come back to table at AA again. The hours were really intensely long.. is that normal? Like, the AA was open from 10AM til 7PM. I'm used to like AX's being open from like 11-6 or something, so by the end of the first day I was already beat. Plus they started enforcing a no-food policy unless you bought a $14 food truck sandwich lol.

It wasn't a huge problem but at some points they enforced that artists couldn't even enter thru the side/back entrances and some people were unloading still and had to go through security (although, for me I just followed some exhibitors thru the loading dock area instead). That was pretty annoying and I felt bad for people who were severely inconvenienced by it.

I talked to some of my friends who said it was a very slow con. Being in the back rows, I definitely noticed a big difference in foot traffic because of how big the space was. It's a double edged sword -- I very much appreciated how large the aisles were, there was a ton of space behind tables and to walk/browse without feeling in the way, but I felt bad for artist who were located super remotely.

Overall I had a kinda-mixed bag of good experiences overall and I think the change was all right, I just personally don't see myself coming back because of how exhausting it was & I don't feel that the merch I had was appropriate for the audience (it was niche fandom stuff and not prints-based). I do give props for the actual AA staff for handling things well though, and appreciated the water and making the rounds to artists.

this was my first ala, i consider myself and my roommates lucky at the raddison. we didn’t have any problems with our room other than us having to go to the front desk to get towels since we had the do not disturb sign on. i also missed all of the cosplay meets i wanted to go to because of sleep, got about 90 ribbons and had a lot of fun with that. I got good final fantasy merch from the AA, made me wonder how many people actually played/ watched things they drew. not that i really care, still bought merch anyways kek. only bought from one or two booths from vendors.
i regret not taking more photos and not getting specific ribbons i wanted, also not exploring more, but it was still fun.

>>9770024
not holding anyone's hand

>>9770306
How much do the hotels run?

>>9769688
>raiddison no more

Man are you wrong

>>9770312
About $130-$150 a night.

To be honest, it's sorta expensive for Ontario of all places.

>>9770306
I only make merch for stuff I've watched or played, it's too difficult for me to make something interesting otherwise. This is why I still don't have anything fucking Overwatch on my table.

>>9769721
>>9769721
No, we will be back in Ontario next year. Anaheim might be a possibility in the future.

>>9770024
I regret not holding on to my spaghetti when talking to someone

I heard 4chan made an attack threat on ALA and thats why we had wands and mega bag checks. Is this true? wtf guys

>>9770184
Most people haven't seen a gun in their life. It's not like it used to be where people were more comfortable at the thought of a gun. Kids used to bring them to school and store them in their lockers so they could go shoot some cans or hunt after school. Nowadays guns are those scary things you only see in movies and video games.

>>9770355
you do realize that this is 4chan and anyone can post.

>>9770361
oh yeah of course, I shouldnt have made it sound like I was mad that it was posted to 4chan. I'm just annoyed that it happened in general. But the security wasn't a big deal and didn't cause any problems for me. If anything it limited ghosting

>>9770024
I only went Saturday and didn't get a chance to see AA.

>>9770355
I dont think it was because of that. They were probably putting it into place as a general security measure because of uh, America in general.

>>9770371
Yeah, I feel like they had the wands going on before the threat was even made

>>9770064
>Am on staff
>Am close to department head that runs AA

Nigga we read those LMAO the fuck???
Get your head on straight cause despite what you think, every department cares for what they run. You can blame Alec for not notifying AA earlier about tent con. That was literally his call. If anything send Alec direct emails next time instead but AA cares and we do read them

>>9770371
I hate bag checks/wands in general just because of how easy it is to get past them. Some guy getting paid minimum wage isn't going to be very thorough after checking person #999 for the day.

>>9770381
at least the police were inside for the majority of the day

>>9770135
>opinions on masquerade
Average except for at the masters level. At masters you get a some good cosplayers but they try to sweep the competition and think that they'll automatically win because it's a smaller con though.

>>9770386
Masquerade was shit because they forced 4 other programs into it
>idol singers
>choir
>dance group
>AMV winners

Now sure, all of these were good shows, but they didn't belong as a 2.5 hour "well the judges deliberate" event. like wtf?

>actual masquerade part was good tho

>>9770388
The idols weren't even that great. They were cute for a couple songs but their offkey singing and lackluster dancing ruined it for me.

>>9770386
>>9770388
>>9770391
Who won best of show in the masq this year?

>>9770064
I think you're getting ALA confused with AX lol

ALA is a medium sized con so they would care more. AX is so big and industry focused now that they only care about money

>>9770393
BOTW group

>>9770391
My god those idols sucked ass... the one on stage right was good and could sing but the other one sucked so bad I felt bad for them.. at least have good idols

>>9770300
Staff guy here. We wanted to continue to let artist in though the back door of aa, but the security for the Ontario convention center enforced keeping it shut (especially last day). A lot of the problems you guys had were due to miscommunication regarding building security. Sorry if you had to buy overpriced food truck stuff on Sunday = /.

>Spent the past four ALA's going in with a checklist of events I wanted to get to, as well as hopes that I could eventually get a room party in and do cosplay and hold onto at least three categories of ribbons and (insert additional headache dispensers 1-9)
>On average get about 20% of my desires done, with every single one of them either being half-assed or half-hearted
>Oftentimes can't see any of my friends because I kept treating it like AX

>This year at ALA
>No plans, no cosplay, no ribbons, no goals, no dreams, no laws, no kings, didn't even know the people I was rooming with
>Wound up snagging around 42 ribbons, my friend supplied me with an impromptu closet cosplay that worked (poorly of course, but it worked) for the little snug Delinquent gathering (which was pretty much forced off to the side because the RWBY gathering ignored our time slot) and made a few friends from it
>Made even more friends at complete random because of my tendency to just socialize with randos and my actual friends kept showing me even more new people (I love hearing about new s/o's and other cute friendships that spawn)
>Still got to go overboard drinking with my bros
>Still got to see my favorite panels without getting impeded too much
>Bought more from AA than any year prior (In fact I'm going to feel like dying until I get my next check) and happy with all of my purchases
>Gateway to Hell wasn't absolutely terrible like I was worried it would be, mostly because my roomies were super accommodating and extremely friendly and since I didn't bring a damn thing other than clothes and storage, I didn't have to worry about my stuff getting stolen

I can guarantee I had a better ALA than anybody here, and I attribute all of it to how unhinged my experience was. I'm going to stick to this next year, and I hope I can see at least one of you on the fly.

>>9770380
>>9770442
Im curious as to who you (guys??) are. I'm a staffer too and I've been telling everyone I know to blame Alec for every issue cause literally every problem that popped up was stemmed from his poor decision making.

Also fuck that guy cause I've talked to at least 4 other departments that suffered because of him.

>made amazing profit in AA this year
>expect similar experiences from other artists
>NOPE
>most whining and threatening not to grace ALA next year with their presence

good, more money for me. I felt like tentcon weeded out the weak ones.

>>9770483
If you weren't selling FOTM like every other booth I saw in AA then good, I hope you made a lot of profit! I got tired of seeing shitty tumblr style art of BNHA, P5 and Overwatch after the first ten tables in the first row.

>>9769837
see
>>9769852

Most of the art sucked. Maybe 5 people total with anything worthwhile. Entire rows of garbage tumblrnose and overpriced memes.

>>9770476
Alec is in charge now?? No wonder! That guy's a clueless sleaze who has no business running any event. You staffers need to bring him down

>>9770380
>> every department cares for what they run

You sure? Pic's from ALA's staff member FB post. Would you like to guess which department that was from?

Anyone else getting hit hard by con plague?

>>9770483
What did you sell?

>>9770483
Lmao what's your definition of "amazing" though? We have this convo in the AA thread all the time. What's "amazing" for one person might be terrible for another person. Even in the AA thread alone there's a variety numbers re: ALA.

Some people make $500 and think a con is really good but that's nothing to people who make $3k. And $3k is nothing to people who make $10k.

Also artists who ended up on any of the far edges got absolutely fucked by lighting. And I say this as someone who was smack dab in the middle of the room and got a shitton of traffic and wasn't affected by the direct sunlight. Quit acting like other artists are complaining for no reason.

>>9770519
And? If you're upset about quality, ask ALA to do a jury system instead of first come first serve.

>>9770476
Tell everyone, including your staff, to fill out that feedback survey. Since attendance was up (and I bet food sales were up too since you were stuck buying con center food inside) I'm worried they're gonna say "everything went fine, we don't have to make major changes" and not bother improving anything.

>>9770763
What's a good solution for AA? Clearly the tent sucked (not as bad as artists feared tho) with the wind, lighting problems, temperature (non)control and the location being hard to access. Put AA and dealers back together inside the building? Put AA somewhere else where they can sneak in food (e.g. AA in a hotel) but possibly harder to draw people there? Make AA smaller so less competition (lol not happening)?

>>9770442
Thanks for trying! The volunteers at the doors were really apologetic. I actually wasn't let through the back doors on any of the days except for during load in and load out. I heard artists who showed up earlier in the mornings managed to get in through the back door and sneak food in though.

>>9770476
As former staffer, it's been known that promotions department stands behind Alec because they've been buddy buddies for long time now.

I get the feeling y'all bout to have your own civil war

>>9770766
I don't really understand why they had to double the size of the AA in the first place? ALA isn't that big of a con. Basic economics means that there was just less money to go around. Honestly, it kind of felt like a cash grab from the con stuffing in as many artists/vendors as possible without regard to their profit margins.

I'd like to see AA back in with the dealers but that seems unrealistic because then ALA would need to cut down on the number of dealer booths as well.

An artist in the /cgl/ discord suggested giving the tent to the fashion show and putting AA in the fashion show room instead? Which seems like a pretty good solution! I'm not too worried about AA being in a different room than dealers (although generally sales are better if we tend to be in the same room) because back when we were at the LAX Marriott, we were separate from the dealers and the artists still did pretty well.

Re: food - I think vendors/artists should.... just be allowed to bring food in if that's something that could be negotiated with the venue? If not, at the very least have clear communication with the security that food truck food is allowed inside. I was told that we couldn't even bring the food truck food in and it was miserable.

If the bag checks are going to be the same next year, I would recommend having an "exhibitors" line for dealers and artists so we can actually get to our tables/booths and sell. A lot of us were stuck waiting in lines with general attendees which probably lost people some sales since they couldn't get to their tables on time. I'm sure the con wants us to open on time as well considering that we tend to be one of the main attractions.

For the record, I still pulled in several k this weekend. It was just less than last year so comparatively it was disappointing but it wasn't a bad con for me by any stretch. I just think that artist concerns this year are all valid regardless of how well or not well they did.

>>9770781
If AA is small, artists complain that they can't get in. If AA is large, artists complain about competition. Even at 2x capacity compared to last year, AA sold out in ~10 minutes. So clearly the demand from artists is there. I wonder how much of anyone's decreased profit this year is due to -tent location being new & weird -security hassle meaning people just stayed outside more -actual competition from other booths.

As a non artist I'd rather have more artists there so there's more shopping options. I spent more at AA this year than I ever do at ALA, because there was plenty of variety (even with all the FOTM stuff).

Re: food. Bad news - the convention center has ALWAYS had a "no outside food" rule. It was not well advertised although it is written on all the building doors, and plenty of people skated around it because no one was checking bags before. The food truck food was "ok" because the trucks were negotiated by the con center. Communication about it sucked all around.

>>9770799
The demand from artists is there because AA is becoming super saturated as of late. People who have been doing AA for years are still doing AA while new artists are also starting AA by the droves so AA's that sell tables via FCFS are selling out in record time.

But the thing is there also has to be a demand on the consumer side or it's not a very worthwhile venture for artists. Generally speaking, any con that increases AA size when the attendee demand doesn't proportionally increase means a bad time for artists. This is a proven rule for pretty much every con. It's happened at MegaCon, LACC, A-Kon, etc, etc. For example, it was well known that a decent number artists made 10k+ at MegaCon and then they decided to double the AA and everyone's sales absolutely tanked - even the ones pulling in 10k. It doesn't matter how good you are as an artist, if AA increases when the consumer demand stays the same, your margins will take a hit. It might not be a huge hit depending on your popularity and skill level but a hit nonetheless. (Again that goes back to degrees of what's "amazing" profit for someone.)

All the artists I've personally talked to IRL have seen an overall growth in their profit margins at other cons since last year's ALA. They brought new prints/merch and expanded their merch lines for variety. They SHOULD have made more at this year's ALA than last year's considering their track record at other cons. A lot of people are trying to paint the artists who are complaining as bad at art/uncreative but the people I've talked to have done everything to bring new content to this year's con and still did worse than expected despite bringing in several thousand dollars at other cons. That's really not on the artists.

>>9770799
Artists complain about not getting in because they're bummed about not getting in, not because they want more slots open to do so. The amount of people vying for a table has increased ten fold, and even the tiniest of conventions will sell out in a few minutes. ALA selling out in 10 minutes is absolutely nothing special when AB, SJ, and A-Kon have sold out in under a min. It's what happens when more and more people turn to AA for a living. However, the demand for tables is not the relevant factor. The demand for art by the customers is the relevant factor. If attendees increase, by all means, increase the alley. But every con is now being pummeled with artists desperate to get into every con that they can, and increasing the tables based on that only hurts the artists.

I feel like cons think that because they get a lot of apps, that their con is just an exceptionally desired con for artists and thus should increase their supply. But I'd say you'd be damn hard pressed to find a con that DOESNT have that demand; even shitty college cons fill up AA quickly. It's not a good determinator of how many tables you should have. Base your tables off your attendees demand, not your artists.

>>9770825
How do you determine that demand? Do you ask the attendees if they were satisfied with the AA or the artists? Cause I'm pretty sure regular attendees are going to be happier with a larger AA even if the artists want it smaller.

Attendance at the con has increased even if it's not the same ratio of attendee::artist as last year. Perhaps the ratio was skewed in the past where a small AA (and smaller # of dealers) at a 10,000 person con meant that artists/dealers were shooting fish in a barrel. I know this year I went from spending $0 to dropping nearly all my cash.

>>9768792
Any of you already planned their ribbons for ALA2019?

>>9770867
As a regular attendee my view is the AA was too large for that size of a con and especially for the traffic I saw going through. AA the size of AX for example is way too big even for the attendance it gets. When walking through the aisles feels like a hassle and a race against the clock before con ends or your next event starts that’s a good clue it’s time to downsize. At the very least put artists back in the damn con center and not outside in a “climate controlled” tent. The heat and climate inside honestly made me not even want to bother.

>>9770876
Yep already have plans for two new ones to add to my current three

>>9770867
A lot of my friends who were normal attendees that I spoke to didn't even make it through the alley, or gave up halfway through, and a lot of others noted that it often felt empty. So no, I don't think the general consensus will always be to have "more".

ALA is approaching Fanime amounts of tables though, which is a 30,000-40,000 attendee con. The ratio before was fine as it was before; it was already doubled from 50 from two years prior, and most artists were already doing meh at this con anyhow. Comparatively to other cons of its size and attendance, the previous ALA AA could even be considered larger than average.

>>9770895
Lolwut. I walked through the whole artist alley in half a day. The aisles were wide enough that you could actually get through quickly and not get stuck behind people's conversations and cosplayer photos.

It was only hot on Sunday - every other day and especially after sunset it was fine or even a little cold. But hey, now I can tell you only went in on Sunday when it was warm so no surprise you were racing against the clock.

>>9770876
I'm only gonna do two.

Hero's Party (Ten.): Go and make a group of four individuals (preferrably new people you aren't already friends with) and invite them to your party for a quest. You can say how you typically play and everything, but I need to be privy to this discussion. The more detailed, the more likely I'm willing to give the ribbon. If you are bound by time or just can't find anybody who wants to join you, I'll also accept some basic non-specific RPG trivia.

F.O.E: Give me your best field boss story you can. If it impresses me, I'll give you a ribbon. Also for any fans of Etrian Odyssey, most especially cosplayers.

>>9770905
Maybe we have different ideas of what doing a full run through AA entails. Last year I had plenty of time to go through each booth with a fine-toothed comb and look at everything they had. This year I only got a good look at a few tables and had to skim through the rest to have time for panels, gatherings, dealers, and ribbons, probably missing some merch or commissions I would have been genuinely interested in. I went every day and the weather felt either stuffy or cold each time. But if you want better opinions on the climate inside ask the ones who were in there all day.

>Cosplayed as Okada and took alot of pictures with Mimorin voiced characters

>>9770913
>>9770895
How many should I make? 150 for each ribbon I make?

>>9770876
What is also a great website to print these ribbons?

>>9769831
Better than a convention in California that’s actually dead

>>9770961
I usually go 100 each especially with ones that are easier to earn. I had about 50 remaining for a particular ribbon out of the 350 I had total so keep that in mind for the ones you plan to use for trading.

>>9770963
I use Marco Productions for mine. They’re a bit pricier but their customer service is worth it. One of the designs I sent in would have printed on too thick and lost details and they emailed me about it and asked if i wanted to change it and even offered to have their design team take a look and clean it up.

>>9770968
You have a photoshoptemplate for these ribbons?

>>9770184
>> I'm a 4chan shit poster who's gonna hide in a trash can, tossing away my AR-15, crying and fearing for my life when I encounter actual firefight

fixed that for you

>>9770876
I'm doing three.

One's an "exclusive" and one I'm making two versions of.

>>9770963
Apparently ribbonsgalore is the main one people use. Friend did his two there and they came out fine.

Just don't be that asshole that makes short ribbons.

>>9771028
Short ribbons?

>>9771030
I don't have one but one style people get done is they're not wide enough.

It just throws off the whole flow.

ALSO DON'T BE THIS ASSHOLE.

>with friend and her bf
>he goes to get a seat while we get food
>cucked him super hard lol nice bro
>jk
>go back to table
>they sit together, im next to him
>it's obvious we're a group
>missed out on how it started but they're talking to someone and they pull out ribbons
>like a fucking LOT
>REALLY GOOD ONES TOO
>they get 10-15 each and I'm ignored despite being there with them and part of the conversation

I was more upset about like the rudeness of it if that makes sense. I've never been about the whole excluding someone from the group thing, like when you get the three hot magical girls together and leave out the DUFF Himora despite her being with them for a pic.

Granted I probably could/should have just asked.

>>9770113
That's one big ass fumo

I heard a certain male Cirno was spotted at ALA again

Is there any way to cure post con depression?

>>9771259
There's only one way anon

>>9771193
He was. I heard he was very fun at the parties.

>>9770876
>Join the Empire today!
Have a cosplay related to space empires
>Freedom is the right of all Sentient Beings
Have a cosplay related to Democracy or Freedom (so be the rebels, AMERICA,etc)
>LONG LENS IS LONG
Have anything longer than 135mm (it will be the infamous canon 1200mm
Finally
> Space Fleet
Have anything related to space

>>9771259
One of the best ways to get over it is to have a girlfriend.

>>9770024
Only real regret is not getting a hotel early enough and having to stay at the Motel 6. I didn’t realize some of those were franchises and holy shit is the Ontario one dirty and disgusting, and the walls were so thin we could hear someone popping popcorn. Plus one of you inconsiderate jackasses was smoking out 24/7 in the room next to us, my roommate with asthma had to leave the con early to survive.

This is my first time at the Ontario location, and I’m probably not coming back to this con until it moves somewhere that isn’t the devil’s armpit. Can’t stand the climate there.

>>9771277
who this

There was a really good Yuri Katsuki cosplayer during the gala and he was such a good dancer.

But he was wearing tights instead of pants and mostly dancing with the same 1-2 dudes over and over again. Pretty sure he's gay.

>>9771193
He was so autistic at the fakku panel

>>9771456
Like how?

>>9771193
>>9771456
I'm a little out of the loop about this but what's so special about this male Cirno person?

>>9771475
Nothing. He just posts about himself pretending to be someone else. That's just about it.

>>9770443
Thank you for posting a pic of the delinquents, I missed that meet..
>>9770905
I didn’t have any trouble looking at all the booths in the AA, it took about an hour and I look at everything a booth is selling, but I know I’m a fast shopper. A friend I met there said she wasn’t able to get in the AA at ALA but was able to get into AX just fine.

>>9771453
I think I know that guy because he posted about just dancing with dudes on his facebook

>>9771453
>guy cosplays from a fotm yaoi series
>spends the entire night dancing with other guys
>p sure he gay idk tho
Your deduction skills are astounding.

>>9771445
Sounds like your fault.

>>9771814
Pretty clear since it’s a regret, anon

Try to read

>>9771445
Were there prostitutes and druggies hanging around?

>>9771475
The less you know the better

Why is Wondercon so fucking expensive

>>9772002
Because people have proven they'll pay for it. See sdcc. Badges are $265 or thereabouts

>>9772002
Badge prices include mailing

>>9771453
Assume that most men who attend anime cons are gay or bisexual.

>>9771844
i mean there were cosplayers, so...

>>9772076
Mailing is cheap

Source: I run a warehouse and shipping things is part of it

>>9772123
I think anon might have meant the man-hours that go into preparing the little badge boxes, not the cost of shipping itself. For a convention, paying people is one of the costlier figures.

>>9772123
>>9772139
(Not that WC isn’t expensive, just... there’s a cost there that some cons don’t incur. It costs a lot because it’s a con people want to go to and people will pay it.)

>>9772002
Go to famine instead

Where are the photos reeeeee

>>9772237
>Where are the photos reeeeee
we were all too drunk to take any

>tfw you met with the legendary boner robin

>>9768806
Cute Gravity Falls bag!

>>9770286
Deets?

>>9772139
The process can be largely automated. Even small companies can have automatic address importation linked up with the proper packages and zebra label printers so a larger one has access to even bettter stuff. Slap them in bubble mailers (SDCC does that) and all you do is verify contents, verify address, seal it. No need for tape because the bubble mailers will have glue on them.

Holy shit is just me or was the amount of autistic spergburgers at this con through the roof?

>>9772643
such is life when things get possible. more and more people who you don't want to see keep coming.

>>9772650
what the actual fuck did you just say

>>9772657
shit, i meant popular, not possible. that post should make a lot more sense with that one word switch.

>>9771625
I mean that looks like his outfit. But his selfie game is so bad.

>>9772659
Ah, alright. Can't exactly disagree. I try to stick with people I know because of shit like that.

>>9772643
>an anime con
>autists are at an ANIME con

....they've always been here anon

>>9772675
Yeah I know but it seemed like every time I turned around there was some weirdo. I blame the ribbons.

>>9772535
Don't encourage shitty itabags.

>>9772754
>Hating it's bags.
C'mon. Whay are you 10.

God bless Metalslimer

>>9773182
I love him

>>9772934
I love itabags. I don't like shitty ones.

>>9768831
RAD

>>9769446
this is good. v good

>>9770443
Oh man, I gotta do this gathering next year. I have soft spot for delinquent characters.

I hope everyone was as drunk as I was and no one remembers what happened in that room

>>9773374
What happens at ALA, stays in ALA.

What do you guys do when you want to run a table but at the same time want to explore?

>>9773403
Have a friend take over said table in shifts.

Past that, you are boned unless you want to pack everything up.

>>9768899
Better not be the cute one I saw, she's a treasure and must be protected.

>>9771625
>>9772660
He says he's not gay btw

Since I know you're reading this I was thinking "ok I actually don't know if he's gay to properly respond to this inquiry"

>>9772643
First con?

>>9772684
>I blame the ribbons
What the fuck is you first ALA

>>9771447
Shes a streamer and cosplayer but is it against the rules to post cosplay pages or no?

>>9773643
Bro it’s cgl. We don’t care about rules. There’s a reason we were /drama/ for a while.

Discord really killed off these threads. What a fucking shame.

>>9773643
Didn't realize that was ever a problem.

>>9769688

CIA again?

>>9773834
i stopped going on it after a bunch of annoying spergloids joined.. it was so comfy before that

>>9773915
I imagined it was just full of thirsty dudes.

>>9770763
Who the fuck is making 10k at ALA!?? Are they selling drugs??

>>9773919
it's full of thirsty annoying spergs

>>9773834
Lol

>>9773919
>>9774225
who even publicly posted the discord?

>>9774035
I made like $6k+ at last year's ALA and I'm just a mid-tier artist.

A lot of artists break $10k at cons? Unless you're surprised about it being at ALA specifically?

Anyway the POINT was that anon's claims that they did "amazing" means fucking nothing unless they put numbers out there.

>went to a gathering
>feel like i embarrassed myself and left early to avoid conversing with anyone afterwards

why do i keep going to these
i don't care THAT much about being at a gathering where i'll probably never see pics anyway, but i always try to show up ;_;

>>9774573
Maybe compiling a list of how much ALA artists made this year compared to lasts. I should as the AA thread

>>9774584
I got booed at the BNHA gathering, how bad did you do?

>>9773850
>>9773643
She is tomatera9 on instagram and twitter

>>9774573
$6k? What did you sell?

What’s your ribbon tally this year?
54 overall this year at ALA.

>>9773856
I haven't done CIA in a while, but maybe. Depends on what's going on at Fanime. I don't really have the money to make new cosplay for it.

>>9776203
54 and nothing impressive.

>>9776203

...502

Never going that hard again.

>>9777009
what the fuck

>>9769844
>>9769837
The hassle with security and trying to get in is also a factor

>>9777009
>never going that hard again

Well fuck. I managed to get 587 but I was staffing so I wasn't really trying too hard compared to past years

>>9777009
How many of those did you own/spend money to get from the ribbon station?

>>9777072
>587
>wasn’t really trying
the fuck..? i got 90 and I WAS trying..

>>9777009
>>9777072
I'd love to see some pictures of some of your favourites.

>>9777118

I owned 9 of them, and I spent absolutely zero money at the gacha/plinko stations. Everything was earned or through trades. Mostly trades.

But I was also the one with the Longcat ribbon.

>>9777608
I don’t go hardcore hunting for me it’s just a bonus. I got a bunch from doing my Send Nudes magic trick at a room party and others given to me by criteria

>>9777705
Wrong respond fuck. Message is there tho

>>9777208
Couldn't get them all to fit into the layout but these were some of my top. A lot of people went all out with their designs this year.

>>9777849
Does the Odin Sphere ribbon indicate there was an OS cosplayer?

>>9777870
Yeah! The person giving them out cosplayed as Gwendolyn in her ball gown and she was giving it to other OS cosplayers or trivia for the normies

>>9777896
Awww, didn't get to see it.

>>9777897
heres a pic of a non ball gown gwendolyn at ALA. does anyone have a picture of the other gwendolyn or was it the same girl?

>>9768829
I eavesdropped on some girls bitching about Ugandan Knuckles being racist. Fucking con THOTs I tell ya.

>>9777937

THE BIRD

C U T E

>>9777937
Definitely a different girl, but damn this girl looks amazing!

>>9777937
ayy I know her!

>>9772643
I always avoid ALA because of this reason.
>Went three years, ran into a bunch of loud autists every time
>Finally just left after some stupid Homestuck cosplayers kept running up and down the bathroom stalls, opening and shutting doors while laughing and screaming like toddlers
>But muh alcohol!!!

nope.jpg

>>9779634
Like I needed another reason to avoid Homestuck.

>>9779634
>implying autists don’t go to every con

Okay fag

>>9777937
Is that a boy?

>>9781037
no anon... get your eyes checked...

>>9781065
Not that anon, but while the cosplay is good that physique is easy to mistake as male.

> two weeks
> only 50 images
Let's fix this. I only went Saturday but I'll upload any requests you may have. I got stuff I currently got to do at the moment so have a Bob Ross.

Here’s my friends producer

>>9783591
Shouldn't Bob Ross be painting happy trees and not bad cosplayers?

Only just got around to running through my photos. I'll post a few of my favorites.

>>9784781

>>9784806

>>9784808

>>9784815

>>9784822

>>9784825

>>9784828

>>9784822

FML since I realized awhile ago that I lost about 10ribbons on my badge,but only now realized most of them were my /cgl/ meet up ribbons and one of my favorites

>>9784781
>Sabrina
Ugh

>>9785078
The good one or the one full of newfags that kept unsuccessfully trying to start a party and then crash other parties

>>9784825
Wow, an actual Saiyuki group in this day and age. Amazing.

I live in northridge and I'm brand new to the world of Cosplay and cons, I went to comicaze once and that was it. Didn't make it to Anime LA but hoping to go to wondercon this year in Anaheim

>>9786750
The good one. Whatever ribbons gulls were giving out there I'm missing them all. Made it out this Ala with a good amount of ribbons but now I only have half that. Going to make it a habit next year to always duct tape the back of my ribbons after each day

>>9789478
I’ve never handed out ribbons and am sad about it, I’m finally ordering like five