/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9758592
>Group of chavs
Britfag?

>>9758600
Yesu

>>9758592
>be 15
>CoF
holy shit has closet of frills been around for three years already?

>>9758611
Was this Midlands or North? Please tell me what comm this is.

>>9758645
My first post on CoF was in 2015 so it’s been around for at least 4

>>9758592
I think I know what com you're talking about. There was one woman who really stuck out but her name escapes me - was it Mary? Fat woman with awful pigtails.

>>9758654
There is a woman who is fat with the last name Mary (first name begins with the letter V) who is fat, but I believe she currently has shortish hair. They recently had a picinic meet infront of the prison, and she didn't wear lolita, if you follow the comm

>>9758646
North, I don't think their meets are usually this disastrous though, but still cringey

>>9758659
>a picnic meet infront of the prison
A what in front of the what now?

>Be me 3 years ago
>Be lonelita but no one's a dick about it really
>Nice quiet life, honestly living the ideal
>Go grocery shopping
>See cousin I haven't seen outside of family events for like five years
>"Hey anon what are you wearing?"
>It's not even anything that attention seeking, just a classic jsk with a cutsew underneath because I'm just running errands who cares
>Just joke "uh clothes lol" and try to ask about how his job is
>"Is it like a fetish thing? Is it a joke?"
>I brush him off and try to leave as nicely as I can
>This continues really loudly for like eight minutes
>He follows me around the store
>People are staring
>A lot
>Meanwhile I'm rushing to leave with as few groceries as I can
>Finally actually able to say goodbye and gtfo
>Find out later that night he's posting on facebook about it with pics of me I didn't know he took
He still brings up my "weird fetish clothes" every single time we're forced to interact since, even when I'm in normie garb. All in all I'd probably be fine with it if he was like his brother and this was all because he's a mouth breather shut-in who can't socialize but no he's just a dick.

>>9758666
why didn't you just tell him it's alt fashion?

>>9758666
>nice trips
Maybe instead of brushing him off, try to actually put him in his place.
>Fetish clothes? What are you talking about? It's just a dress, I don't understand. What sort of things have you been looking at? Please don't discuss your personal matters with me.
Acting like you have no idea what he means will lead him to look like a massive pervert - And if this is his first association, he likely is.

>>9758659
Maybe that's who I'm thinking of. I remember she was around when I first started and would try to doxx people and cause people grief.

>>9758674
I did, a few times actually, but I was dumb enough to mention it's japanese because I forgot most people's stereotypes about japan are less than favorable when you're trying to convince them it's not a sex thing.

>>9758677
I'll try that next time someone acts like that thank you.

>>9758645
Lel. OP is a fucking tard as per usual.

Anyone else here never have shit like this happen?

Also if anyone, and I mean anyone, is rude to me, I'm just gonna be rude back. Why is this so hard for the people posting here?

>>9758739
I don't like being rude or mean, even toward strangers who are rude to me in the first place.

>>9758695
It works better if you raise your voice a bit, enough for people nearby to hear you.
>Why are you talking to me about sex? Please stop bothering me!
I've had security approach me to ask what was going on when I did something similar, and the guy bolted immediately.

>>9758740
I don't like being mean or rude either but I came to the realization that some people deserve it.

wearing a pink x white btssb coord just minding my own business waiting at a red light to cross the street
from nowhere a middle aged woman comes up with her phone camera ready, says "you poor thing" while shaking her head, takes a picture and walks away
i was so shocked about her behaviour i just yelled "NO YOU'RE THE POOR THING WHO HAS NO MANNERS YOU BITCH"
seriously what makes people think that just because you have unusual clothing they are entitled to be that disrespectful?

> go to a meeting
> cosplay noob from the comm walks around and stalks others quietly
> waits till we're standing alone
> cosplay noob put hands in front of face like "shy kawaii animu character
> noob looks at me and suddenly puts hands a bit like Yuno Gasai and says with tilted head "YOUR OUTFIT IS SO CUTE" as the volume lowers throughout the sentence.
> what the...
> "ehr.. thanks"
> noob acting all desu shy again
> noob walks off and does it to 3 other people on the meeting

>Few years ago, a college student doing part-time jobs during evenings
>One winter night, coming home from work by bus
>10pm-ish, already pitch black outside, phone running out of battery
>Get off at my stop, sort of suburban area, no-one else usually gets off on that stop
>See that a dude has followed me out of the bus
>Walk faster but he catches up to me
>"Hey, I finally caught you. I've been seeing you around for months"
>Goes into detail how my fashion interest him, how he sees me every morning in the bus going to school and how he's been watching me
>I'm a very petite girl, he is older and bigger than me and a foreigner, doesn't speak good English
>I'm freaked out, alone in the dark with a random dude and my phone almost out of battery
>Tell him that I'd like to get home
>He doesn't leave me alone and absolutely wants to talk, asks for my phone number and name, asks me come to his place
>Tell him no every time but too scared to be rude since I'm pretty much defenceless
>He eventually leaves
>I think it's over, but it's not
>About a week later the same happens again: it's night again, I'm coming home from work, the dude is in the same bus
>This time he tries to follow me home, tries to talk me into going out with him and wants to know my info
>Still not interested, lead him up to a wrong street saying it's where I live and get him to leave again
>Scared as fuck at this point, he clearly knows which time I get off of work, which college I go to and which buses I use
>Don't want to risk anything anymore, start using different bus-routes even tho they take more time and frantically check my street every time I go out
>See him a few times near my college but he never notices me
>Technically he didn't do anything illegal and I didn't know his name so I really couldn't report anything to the police

Could have been worse, but still freaks me out. You really shouldn't open a conversation with someone saying that you've been watching them for months.

>>9758739
I don’t think it’s always that it’s hard, I think sometimes there is really no point in being rude or mean. It doesn’t make them rethink they’re actions, it doesn’t do anything but invite them to further escalate the situation. Sometimes the best thing to do is just to not engage.

>>9758828
It’s hard to imagine that some people are so clueless as to not realize that when you are a big strange man and follow a woman around after dark, you are genuinely making her think she might be about to get murdered. I mean, if he saw you in the morning would it be so hard to approach you in broad daylight, around other people?
>asks me to come to his place
Oh. Fuck, I hadn’t read this part. I don’t think he was just clueless. Glad you got the hell away anon.

>>9758828
Show your deodorant and hold up a lighter. "Fuck off right now."
Done.

Anyone else had a terrible first meeting? At my first meet up I think only two people in total tried to make conversation with me. I wasn't ita but not very polished either. I ended up sitting with girls who were older and they were really close friends. I was very shy and I couldn't force myself in to any of their conversations. The lunch lasted two hours and I mostly sat there in silence looking at my phone. I left immediately after and skipped the pictures because of how emotionally draining it was to feel like I didn't exist. I didn't have the courage to go to another meet up till I made a friend who went with me. I made friends with two of the girls later and of them referenced that meet up to me without realizing I was there. I was even wearing the same jsk I wore to that meet up. I thought about bringing it up but that meet was very awkward and I just want to forget about it.

>All dressed up quite OTT and on our way home from a tea-party
>Some guys standing in front of the venue with their car
>They start asking us questions
>No one replies but a friend tells them to fuck off
>They start following us with their cars, saying things to us and continue with their questions.
We lost them after we went entered the tube.

Other thing that was more annoying and only slightly scary was a guy, who only was a few meters away, who kept screaming inappropriate things to us on how we were sex dolls and asking us how much we cost. We ignored him, but he literally kept going on for 30 minutes! Ignoring him didn’t help at all, but he luckily never walked towards us, which was something we were afraid of. The stupid bus took so long!nWe were both wearing quite toned down Classic outfits.
Two years later we had a meet at the same location and the same guys was there again. He did the same, but this time we only had to wait for a few minutes before the bus arrived.

>>9758592
>pretty much everyone is 30-40 years old

I would trade your older group for mine in a heartbeat. Then maybe our community could go for a wine tasting or something without the usual complaining about including everyone.

>>9758739
you either have a boyfriend/friends around 24/7 or you just live in a nice area

this happens all the goddamn time

>>9758832
>this only works if you still use old fashioned aerosol deodorant anon.

>>9758895
You need to try to get over your shyness. If you don't talk to other people, they won't talk to you. Especially if you're sitting there staring at your phone, it gives off a "dont bother me" vibe.
And I'm really not trying to be mean, but saying it was so emotionally draining to to feel like you didn't exist comes off as dramatic and special snowflakey. It's not other people's job to coddle you and make you feel accepted. You have to talk to them. The reason people don't remember you is because you didn't talk.
I know it's hard, but you really have to have more confidence, even if you have to fake it. Stop waiting for other people to give you confidence, or rely on being with friends. Go out by yourself more, become more independent. Its so important desu.

>>9758920
I live in a ghetto area, and I go out by myself in lolita all the time. I rarely deal with rude comments. But I also try to have assertive and confident body language and look people in the eye when they're staring at me.

>>9758935
Usually I am fine with approaching people but the girls I sat with didn't even spare me a glance which made it really hard to to even introduce myself. I would have had to tap them on the shoulder or awkwardly interrupt them while they are talking about their private lives in order to join the conversation. I think they talked about their birth control at one point. And after a certain amount of time has passed it becomes even more difficult to join in. You can't really say "Hey, I know it's been 30 minutes but I am x and you are ignoring me". And I later found out others had similar experiences with those that sat around me. I don't think they ever had any interest in getting to know me and when I encountered them at other meet ups they stayed in their clique and ignored other girls.

>>9759124

My comm is like that too, I just never attend meetups anymore. It's just a waste of money and time to spend with people who ignore you

>>9759124
I had a similar first meet up. My comm already has a lot of strong established friendships, and it was very hard to get anyone to even engage with me, much less try to have a conversation, since they were all busy with their friends and not really looking to make more.
I also had one girl and her friend act really weird when I complimented her OP (that I had in a different color), and the whole thing put such a bad taste in my mouth that I didn't attend another meet up for almost a year.

Eventually I started going to meets that were very event organized, like trips to the theater or zoo, where I could enjoy myself even if I ended up on my own. Showing up frequently led to people talking to me, and after a time I actually made a friend or two.

You're bound to have a few bad experiences, and I think it's worse in the beginning. Try to go to something that's less conversation/chill time based.

And event organizers, it is almost always a good idea to have some dumb ice breaker/game at the beginning of a meet up so everyone can at least know one another's names and shake any jitters they have.

>>9758931
They won't know

>>9759135
I disagree to this. It depends on the community. The Dutch community for example was very welcoming to me and never had a bad feeling about it. I wish more communities were like that.

>>9759146
what do you disagree with? I'm not saying all comms are bad (or that even experiences like my own are indicative of a bad comm), just saying that you're very likely to have a bad experience here or there, as you would in any community or hobby. Even if you don't have a bad experience with your first comm, chances are you're not going to live in the exact same place for the rest of your life. I've been active in three comms in three countries now, and I've had mixed experiences with all of them.

>>9759135
Every thing is fine now. I have plenty of friends in my comm and get along with most members. I just ended up sitting with girls who were cliqueish. It was just a bad experience and I am glad the rest of my comm isn't like that.

What the fuck is wrong with normies?
I honestly admire people who can stay mature and collected at all times in those kind of situations. Personally, at some point the disrespect is pissing me off too much and I get as bitchy, rude and cold as possible to make them leave.

>>9758832
>>9758931
Why not hairspray? Use your killer fashion sense Buffy.

>>9759241
Who has either of those things on their person when out though?

>>9758829
this x 10,000

>>9758895
Yep. My experience was a little better than yours because I was able to make a bit of small talk with the girl beside me for a couple minutes. But as soon as the whole group showed up they started talking/gossiping about other members, and obviously I couldn't join in because I had no idea who tf these people are. It doesn't help that my local comm is small so the cliques were really strong and established.

They had an anonymous survey asking what they could do better as a comm and to recruit new members, and I mentioned discussing topics that the newbie could partake in, actively including them in the conversation etc. They didn't mention my suggestion when they went over the survey results :/

>at train station with friend, on our way back from getting tea in the city
>minding our own business, waiting quietly
>rando walks up to us from across the station
>"is that a fetish?"
>friend pretends to be unable to understand English
>rando gets embarrassed and leaves

It could have been worse, but seriously, why do people think it's appropriate to ask that sort of thing to a complete stranger?

>>9758664
>a picinic meet infront of the prison,
sissies tryna get some prison sex?

>>9758666
expose him as the weird cousin who's sexually harassing you and possibly dangerous

>>9758677
this

>>9758686
this is your cue to thoroughly doxx her beetus ass

>>9758828
I would have reported him to your college anyway. He was stalking and harassing you.

>>9759434
>sissies tryna get some prison sex?
do you think the inmates emerge from the prison to engage them

>>9759373
most likely because he thought you did it to attract attention so he gave you the attention that you supposedly wanted

>finally obtain dream dress
>go to first meet in over two years
>pretty much new comm minus the mods due to people moving to otome and gal style
>new girls I haven’t really met other then in brief conversation on the comm page
>wear dream dress to our ILD meet
>girl in modified bodyline dress approaches me
>I smile to be nice
> she questions my authenticity of my dress because it’s in a “odd color”
>tell her it was a special edition color
>she proceeded to argue over how that color doesn’t exist.
>starts causing a scene at the high tea venue pulling her phone up and huffing about how it’s not on lolibrary in that color
> other people starting to stare as they enjoy their afternoon tea with their grandmas and mothers.
>I’m embarrassed that she’s focusing the aggression on me since I don’t like undesired attention.
>mod steps in and silences her saying that it was a special release
>girl argues with mod that it’s not on lolibrary
>mod pulls up lolibrary on her phone and shows her that it has it own listing becuase “special set”
>girl starts crying about how mean we are to her for being new.
>rest of tea is awkward
Then later
>take train home from whole debacle
>sit down and start reading on my kindle since it’s a hour and a half train ride to my town.
> “ I saw you today at the tea house”
> I look up and see a woman about mid 30s talking to me
>”I-uh yeah, Sorry about the girl that got loud”
> “no problem anon, but I have to ask, why do you guys roleplay as marie antonette in public?”
> I politely explain it’s not roleplay but a fashion style from Japan and that there’s communities around the world that plan meets
> “ oh soo it’s just a fetish thing you do in public. I get it now. I used to be into viberating underwear when I was your age.”
>she sees I’m reading on my kindle
> “oh you ever read 50 shades of gray? It’s a great book about fetishes”
> I grab my things and go to the next car.

>>9759449
Normies are the worst fucking degenerates.

>>9758828
that guy certainly was a creep but as for your question, "to see somebody around for months" isn't stalking if you both habitually share the same bus ride every day, if he didn't do it solely to see you of course

>>9758829
>to not engage
Sorry. Where I come from, if you do not engage someone who is obviously trying to talk to you, it's considered rude.

>>9758920
I'm the anon you actually replied to.

And no. In fact people come up to me all the time where I live even if I'm wearing normie clothes.

I'm just used to not giving a fuck about people on the street around me. Who cares what a stranger on the street is saying to you?

>>9759135
>I also had one girl and her friend act really weird when I complimented her OP
what was weird about it?

>>9759449
>I don’t like undesired attention.
hahah why the fuck did you phrase it like this? who does?

>>9759449
Why are people like this

>>9759897
that woman probably felt lonely and thought she found somebody who shared her interests in sexy stuff and wouldn't mind to speak about them

>>9759544
There’s a point where attention is desired and not desired. When you desire attention, you do things that draws peoples attention by your actions. When you don’t want it, you try to mind your own business and not bother other people as much as possible. It is weird to say it with this fashion, but makes since since most people are trying to just interact with people of their own interests and not everyone around them who didn’t sign up for the ruffles and lace party.

>>9759536
Ignoring people who are purposely being rude to you is not rude.

>>9759908
Who talks to complete strangers about sex or fetishes? It's fine if you're at a fetish party or something but randomly on the train?

>>9759961
i didn't justify her i merely answered the question. the woman probably assumed that since the girl wears what she thought was a fetish dress she would be ok to talk about fetishes

>be me
>casual sweet loli
>walking in street
>see older group of men
>they walk to me
>get nervous
>men walk toward me
>I walk faster
>men get louder
>men get angry
>they grab my arm
>I freak out and stab them with a pocket knife
>Stabbed the guy in the vein
>guy bleeds out
>no blood gets on bruando
feelsgood.jpeg

>>9761688
>things that never happened.

>>9761688
this is why I carry a gun. am woman, will march, alone.

>>9759961
The person you are purposely ignoring is going to think it's rude.

There's a reason why the homeless guy on the street waves to you and then starts yelling when he didn't get the acknowledgement he thought he was going to. He feels ignored. Regardless of if you felt you weren't being rude to him.

>>9763066
I realize this, but that doesn't validate these people's actions. If a complete stranger approaches me to mockingly ask about my "costume", my refusal to humor their middle school-tier behavior is the mature thing to do.

>>9763080
>reasons why headphones are a godsend

>>9763088
Agreed. Some people still go out of their way to bother me even when I have earphones in, but at least that way it's much easier to ignore them.

>>9763090
I wear giant sound cancelling headphones everywhere I go and take them off when I go inside public places. People attempt to talk to me all the time and I never engage regardless of if I am wearing lolita or not.

>>9763097
do headphones look good with lolita?

>>9763098
I used to have matching ones but they broke fairly quick so I got more expensive quality ones instead- my hands full of shopping bags from normie stores also don't match my coords but that doesn't stop me from carrying them around.

>>9758592
Ah I have one from last year.
Nothing too horrible, but definitely a bad experience

my comm is in a very big city while I live 1 hour away by train in a slightly smaller city
>waiting for my train to meet up with my friends
>have done this so many times before, even commuted 4 years to my univerity in the same city like this
>feel very safe and look really sweet
>coincidentally a big japan-themed event is in the same city so I expect to see some weebs in my train but that's okay
>suddenly many police officers at the train station
>enter my train and see loads of drunk soccer fans on their way to a big game
>police officers on every entrance
>a frilly pastel girl standing in the midst of drunken bastards, no seats open and people constantly squeezing past me to get to the toilets
>I go stand next to the exit and the police officers in case anything happens
>next station is 10 minutes away
>in these 10 minutes I get harassed verbally many times and 2 dudes almost spilled beer on me
>police officers don't care about me, give me an "Why are you even here, don't complain" look whenever I look at them
>leave the train at the next possible station and almost cry
>never felt that unsafe or harassed in my otherwise rather safe country
>take next train which is almost empty aside from a few weebs, which I took as a blessing at this point
>day is basically over for me and I leave my meet early
In fact I even ghosted at them, because none of my close friends made it to the meet and I was exhausted. I claimed I got lost in the commotion of the japanese event.

still not over these shitty police officers though
US gulls might think this is nothing, but I have never felt not safe in my country and could always 100% trust the police so I was shocked in this situation.

>>9758691
I always cringe a bit when girls in my comm introduce lolita to normies as Japan street fashion because in my experience, a lot of people our age associate Japan with hypersexualised anime and other pop culture. One time a guy literally said "Oh like schoolgirl tentacle porn?" in response to me saying I was going to see a Japanese animated movie. I said no no, like Spirited Away, but he ignored me and started talking about this creepy cartoon sex music video he saw on Facebook. I think he was talking about MeMeMe but pretended I had no idea what he meant, because if I admitted to that knowledge it would just have confirmed the ideas he already had.

I've also been asked if I sell my panties in vending machines "like they do over there" and other stuff like that. Modern Japanese culture does NOT have a good rep in my area. At least one girl in my college class has heard of lolita fashion and she's utterly convinced that Japanese women wear it to appeal to pedophiles. It doesn't help that a lot of local tv programmes are low-budget low-effort "look at these freaks" type garbage and they have a new Japan Is So Weird! episode every year.

>>9758831
Some guys really are that obtuse, and even get offended when you try to explain how scary that is for a woman because apparently we should be able to read their minds and magically know that they're good people. I've actually fallen out with friends from college because one guy felt I was insulting him and accusing him of terrible things with no evidence!!1 when I was trying to explain why following a girl around campus for half an hour hoping to corner her when she's alone in an alley is a terrible idea. Like dude I get that you feel intimidated when she's surrounded by friends but that's no excuse to scare the shit out of her. But no, women are unreasonably paranoid and we should suppress all our instincts just in case the guy stalking us like prey is actually a really nice guy who's just socially awkward.

>>9763138
I'm sorry you went through that, anon. Cops can really be garbage. At least you weren't physically attacked.

>>9763189
i didn't get what police was supposed to do there, she wasn't attacked or something, verbal harassment from the passer bys if it's not a pestering from the same person for a while isn't a reason for them to interrupt too

i suppose she thinks police is supposed to find her a place to sit in an overcrowded train so people with beer wouldn't squeeze past her because she is so special

>>9763138
Anon, are you from the UK? Sounds like one of my experiences.

>>9763199
>woman is being targeted and harassed by a group of grown, publicly intoxicated men throwing beer around
>police don't even warn the men doing the harassing or give them a look
>if the situation escalated, they probably would've dragged their feet to stop it because "Well it's her fault for dressing funny"
Are you the same guy who thought women carry hairspray around 24/7 because of their "amazing fashion sense"?

>>9763138
It's not that the police officers didn't care, but they're there to make sure the situation didn't escalate. I mean, since so many police officers were there, they would've stepped in if any of those men began to physically harass you. Technically, speaking negative to people and 'almost' spilling beer is not a crime. (I'm assuming carrying alcohol in public is not a crime in your country. Here in the U.S., they'll stop you if you're carrying alcohol in public.)

At the end of the day, the police are just happy if no fights break out and nobody is trying to touch another without permission. With that many police, they didn't step in because they were fairly certain the situation wouldn't escalate too far. Understand for the police, stepping in before any crime has happened could actually get them in trouble.

>>9763205
I can't speak for other countries, but in my own country that technically isn't a crime unless the remarks become highly sexually charged or touching occurs.

>>9763205

i am sorry but it is not her story

she simply got into an overcrowded train with a rude crowd that mostly didn't get a shit about her, squeezed to the toilet, drank beer, i guess she got a couple of rude remarks which she considered a verbal harassment

she was perfectly safe with a lot of police around (and i bet she would have been safe without police too) but since she had had a pampered life (which is a good thing, all the experiences that you lose with that life are not pleasant ones) she considered herself in danger and thought that police was have to do something to save her from danger. she is also sounds at least a bit narcissistic

finally, note that most of the complaints in her post it's: a) she didn't get a seat; b) they squeezed past her; c) they drank beer around her i.e. basically natural things one expects in a large rowdy crowd, verbal harassment is only a by-the-way complaint. she is not a professional victim like i suppose you are, otherwise verbal harassment would be the very key of her story with some colorful details and stuff

>>9763208
Just because it wasn't a crime "yet" doesn't mean they couldn't have warned the men to knock it off to dissuade them from trying anything.
If they're bold enough to yell abuse at a woman who's standing right next to some cops, who knows what else they might try? Drunk people don't behave rationally, point blank.
I strongly doubt they would've "gotten in trouble" if one of them had simply said something to diffuse the behavior. They just didn't give a fuck, and probably blamed her for getting verbally abused.

>>9763214
The fuck? Why are you trying to rewrite that anon's story and making all these weird conjectures on how it wasn't a big deal and she must've been perfectly safe when you weren't even there?
Also, why are you calling me a "professional victim" for simply understanding that the officers could have done something?

>>9763215
officer, that guy a minute ago said something mean about my clothes when he squeezed to the toilets, pls find him and tell him he shouldn't do it again!

>>9763218
sure thing, being in a car with police at the entrance is so dangerous

also i know how a group of soccer fans behave

>>9763214
>pampered life
the "im so tiny and cute uguu~" shouldve tipped you off that shes got mental issues

>>9763219
You're getting extremely salty about this for some reason.
The point remains: Drunk people can be dangerous. When drunk people accost a random passerby and start slinging their alcohol, even before they start throwing punches, it's not out of a cop's line of duty to step in with the most appropriate course of action (which can range from a simple nasty look, to a "Pack it in", to escalated action if they get out of control). Disorderly conduct is against the law in quite a few countries (though I don't know where that anon is).
It's shitty that the officers did absolutely nothing and just glared at that anon as this was happening. That's all I'm saying.

>>9763222
>>9763223
>>9763219
>>9763199
>>9763214
You can tell that the bulk of these posts are by the same person by the lack of capitalization and run-on sentences. It went from "The cops dindu nuffin" to "The anon who had the bad experience must have mental issues!". I wonder who shat in their cereal.
Anyway, that sucks for you, possibly-UK anon. It's why I try to avoid public transportation if possible.

>>9763225
squeezing past you with a bottle of beer isn't disorderly conduct if drinking is permitted on the train

she has said she almost was soaked with beer, not that they intentionally tried to spill the beer at her or even that they spilled it at all i. e. in fact they simply were with bear near her and nothing more

mind you, if she had been really harassed by a group of guys, like they got around her, spilled beer, asked questions, made rude remarks, tried to touch her dress etc, w/e you imagined, 100% it would have been the key part of her story and police would have interrupted it.

she wasn't harassed she simply was in a rowdy crowd that didn't treat her as a princess and got scared

>>9763225
youre taking everything shes saying at face value despite the clues. she was freaking out over literally nothing and the cops ignored her for being annoying
>conjecture!
its called reading between the lines. do less "listen and believe" and do more "dont be retarded". some girls have been genuinely dangerous situations or dealt with horrible people, but a lot of them are bullshit sob stories that didnt happen like that. instantly falling for it takes away the seriousness of the real threats. ever hear the story of the girl who cried wolf?

>>9763231
>everyone i disagree with is the same person
>multiple people couldnt possibly think im dumb
your next move is to say we're all men

>>9763231
the post about mental issues isn't mine, i merely said she was a bit self-centered and had a pampered life

>>9763218
>Why didn't the police try to intimidate a belligerent drunk?
Drunks aren't good at deescalating with police. The officer actually interfering could have easily caused more issues. Shitty situation, but at least the officer would have stepped in should anything worse have happened. Feeling safe and being safe aren't always the same thing.

However, in a situation like this, the police are basically only there to stop drunken brawls from occurring and getting out of control. To apprehend and write up someone for rude comments when they're trying to keep those same idiots from beating each other half to death probably wasn't in anyone's best interest.

>>9763233
>>9763234
You're not reading between the lines, you're inserting your own opinion, presenting it as fact and focusing on one part ("squeezing past with a bottle of beer") as evidence to extrapolate on the nature of the situation itself without any real reason. "If she had really [x], then she would've [y]" is a silly argument, too, because it's not like you have ample prior knowledge on that anon's personality or what they focus on when recounting life experiences. This is an anonymous board.
I'm not sure what's gotten you so emotionally invested in this, or why you're so bent on discrediting that anon's story, but there's no point in insisting someone on 4chan must be lying about a story they're anonymously telling unless you were actually there and have proof that they're bullshitting.
If it's true and happened as the anon said it, the cops are definitely pretty shitty for ignoring that behavior. They would not have gotten in trouble for a simple warning, it wasn't "literally nothing", and it sucks that she was made to feel unsafe and distraught in what should be a safe public channel. If it's not true, oh well. This is 4chan. End of story.

Phew, OP here. I didn't think my story would be discussion worthy? Maybe I'll reply to some posts now I guess.

>>9763203
I'm from Germany actually!

>>9763223
Huh, I actually wanted to sound sarcastic about that. I just wanted to convey how awfully misplaced a girl in pastel dresses is in a crowds of soccer fans, lol.

Also I have a pampered life, I'll gladly admit that, even my husband tell me this so often, haha.


To clarify some points about my story:

The 'shocking' aspect of this story to me where
>suddenly being in a crown of drunk soccer fans, because this train is usually so chill I was taken aback
>the police officers not saying or doing anything when they usually do/say something in other situations
I'm used to police officers at least saying something to me or the person in question. I know I wasn't in actual danger with them around, but I felt highly uncomfortable and usually the police do something to make women feel more safe (even if it's just something small like "Come and stand next to me for now.".

Also, as for the 'harassment' happening, I had quite some people shout at me through the whole train and hollering insults/cat-calls. Especially in this case usually the police officers would say something. Like, usually they do.

>>9763237
no, i simply take what she said by its face value. she didn't get a seat. they squeezed past her to the toilets. she got some rude remarks. she was scared. she thought they might spill bear at her but they didn't. police watched after her, she even exchanged glances with them, but it wasn't enough for her. it is the facts

>>9763243
You're ignoring the verbal abuse and harassment parts because in your opinion it couldn't have happened because ____. Not the facts.

>>9763245
i mentioned rude remarks

as i had said she was not a professional victim yet and didn't center her story around them

>>9763251
what even is a professional victim anon?

>>9763256
a particularly annoying and sometimes dangerous kind of feminist

>>9763088
>Tfw you wear headphones constantly so you won't be approached in public
>Tfw your city is filled with degenerates who touch you and pry your headphones off so they have your attention

Inb4 things that never hapened, I've had in ear headphones ripped off me when on the train because someone wanted to know where I'd gotten my bag while in normie garb and they didn't think I'd hear them ask.

>>9763258
So, wanting police to do their jobs makes one a "particularly annoying and dangerous kind of feminist". Got it.

>>9763303
That's disgusting, anon. Where do you live that this happens? If that happened to me I would probably freak out and cause a scene.

I wore pic related to a family outing once. My sisters bf asked me why I showed up in my nightgown and if I didn't feel ashamed of myself. I grew a thick skin after this incident but still..

>ftw even the plainest dress in existence isn't safe from rude comments

>>9763303
I've had this happen, too! It's such an unpleasant sensation even without the annoying stranger trying to talk to you afterwards. Just tap me on the shoulder or wave or something ffs, my music's not even loud. Also fun is when the person trying to get my attention just assumes my music must be super loud and starts SCREAMING without even checking if maybe I'd notice them at a more acceptable volume.

>>9763337
That sucks. I wear a lot of IW too and my family keeps referring to it as a costume even if I'm wearing something super normie like pic related with a cardigan. I regret ever showing them that meetup photo because now they seem to view even normal dresses as "anon's Japanese doll costumes that she wears to meet up with the other costume girls".

>>9763337
Plain dresses unexpectedly get me a shit, people will sometimes give me pity looks or glares because they think I'm some kind of fundamentalist. People have asked me if I'm Amish or Mennonite in Innocent world dresses. Have they seen super traditional Christians? A bunch of lace is a big no-no in plain dress and they certainly don't wear petticoats. Plus, so what if I was a conservative Christian anyway?

>>9763303
What do you do when this happens?

>>9763373
Oh man same. I was wearing a dark green book print JSK with a boater hat and my hair in braids and my in-laws didn’t want to be seen with me because they thought I looked like a fundamentalist Mormon. What the heck? There aren’t even any Mormons in our country.

>>9763401
Why does your family hate Mormons so much?

>>9763256
professional means they're getting paid to be a victim? you might want to re-think your phrasing.

>>9763500
Nayrt but a dipshit if you don’t understand this phrasing.

>>9759923
ntayrt, but you could have said you "dislike attention" or "dislike unsolicited attention".... but "undesired attention" is always... um... undesirable.

>>9763373
I'm glad I don't live in Murica, so I don't get the fundamentalist comments but I'm living in a liberal hellhole and when I'm wearing my plain IW dresses some people apparently think I'm dressed like a 50s housewife and I get comments like "who forced you to wear that" or "you know we're living in 2017, right" or "are you an anti-feminist or something?". Apparently wearing conservative looking dresses is a sign of oppression in my country.

>be me
>going grocery shopping, hop out of the car in a fair sweet but toned down coord
>am walking toward the store when I'm stopped by a really enthusiastic older lady, maybe 50 years old
"Oh anon what is this? It's amazing"
>thank her and try to be on my way
"Oh what's holding your skirt up? Is it one of those crinoline things?"
> lady pulls up my skirt, thank mana I remembered bloomers before leaving the house
>tug down skirt and leave

Why are people like this

>>9763245
Rude comments and verbal abuse/harassment are two very different things.

>>9763630
That sucks but liberal America is actually pretty good about fashion. I never get comments like that.

>>9763405
I don’t think they know enough about them to hate them. They don’t even know what they look like. I think it was a case of people seeing something they consider weird and going with the first association their brain could come up with, only in this case it was religious fundamentalists rather than Bo Peep. I suspect they were actually thinking of Hasidic Jews with the hat and the two curly braid-y things on the sides of my head. Of course only male Hasidic Jews wear those and they don’t wear knee-length frilly dresses so who knows.

>>9763630
I don’t live in ‘Murica either but the assumption is still Christian housewife rather than anti-feminist or whatever. Actually the only outspoken anti-feminist women I’ve ever met dressed more sexily than average. Conservative religious communities still exist here, they just tend to be in smaller villages rather than the cities.

All things considered, I prefer people thinking I’m a fundie over people thinking I’m a kinkster.

>>9763643
orly? any kind of unwanted comment is a "verbal harassment" nowadays

>>9763242
From germany as well, and soccer fans in trains are the absolute worst.
They are drunk, old, smelly men who piss literally everywhere (had once a guy who just pee'd in one of those trash bins in the trains)
Surprised the police officers didn't do anything - usually they are super nice here.

>>9763728
Yeah that surprised me as well, because they usually are very nice, especially to girls and young women.
But I guess they were a little annoyed at me taking the train that time. Like, they already were busy watching the drunk crowd and then a girl comes in and needs protection. They were probably hoping I would take the next train which I ended up doing.

Who knows, the train was heading towards cologne and the drunken soccer fans were from my (neighboring) city, so maybe the police was happy they weren't acting even worse?

>>9763630
I guess it's kind of the same thing, getting the assumption you're being forced by either men or religion. I've gotten the same comments, "does your boyfriend make you wear that?" on campus. People assume I'm really conservative or a prude, which is funny considering I'm a lesbian. It was especially funny one day I went museum hopping in the city with my twin brother, who does dress like a typical conservative man and people thought we were a Mormon couple.

>>9763751
just out of curiosity, could you explain what kind of protection the german police "very nice, especially to girls and young women" was supposed to give to you? in detail please, what do you think they had to do? find you a seat forcing somebody from their? send an officer to stand near you? send an officer to warn people around you that they wouldn't dare to approach you?

>>9763787
For example telling people who shout at me to shut up or to stop bothering starngers. Or telling people passing me that open drinks are prohibited because they could stain other people's belongings. Or approaching me/ speaking to me and calm me down and ask me when my station comes or if I could consider taking another train for my own safety.
Like, just not completely ignore me and the situation?

Not saying they are 100% required to do this in their job description, but this is the usual behavior our policemen show, so seeing them behave so coldly was odd to me.

>>9763805
>Or approaching me/ speaking to me and calm me down
kek
well i guess i got it correctly what kind of person you are

>>9763728
Brit here, i've had similar experiences. Though luckily just pre-game drinking... not full on ready to riot sloshed people on a train.

>>9763819
I think you are missing the point, are you?

This is the way they usually act. So no matter what kind of person I am, I expect them to behave like they always do. When I told my relatives and friends about it, they were really surprised as well. Simply because this is expected.

Sorry you are living in a country where police doesn't tend to you, I guess.

>>9763831
Once I was about to get on a train with rioting folks on them. The police didn't even let me enter that time and they said the train would be non-stop to their destination that time.
It's so annoying how they have to cater to them. Especially when you don't keep up with the soccer game schedule.

>>9763835
Don't let that anon get you. It was to be expected for police officers to call out such rude behavior.

>>9758895
god my first meetup was horrible.
I wasn't allowed the internet at home in HS, so most of my knowledge of lolita came from Manga. I bought some overpriced bodyline outfits at an anime convention, and through reccomendations, found a lolita meetup. I joined and everyone was dressed so nicely, in brand, everything. They constantly made side comments about how its "not that hard to afford brand, just stop buying crap and save up" and kept critisizing my outfit. I knew my knowledge was limited, So I asked some of the girls to teach me, since I geniunely wanted to learn. We exchanged numbers with the promise of helping teaching, and they blew me off constantly. Once I got my own computer a year later I found out they were posting me to Ita threads. I became a lone lita after that, but since then I did learn how to properly dress and manage to buy quite a bit of brand.

TL;DR version
>go to comm for first time
>dress like shit since I have no internet to learn about the fashion
>everyone gives me crap for dressing like shit
>promises to teach me
>blows me off and just posts me to ita threads

>>9763337
It does look kinda like a nightgown because of the shape.

>>9763819
Sorry you're from a shit tier country, anon.

>>9763787
Nayrt but I'm American, our cops get shit but if people are getting too rowdy on public transport they tell them to pipe down. They're supposed to keep the peace after all. Though I do find it funny that you're allowed to drink alcohol in public in Europe though, anyone drunk on public transport would be arrested here. You seem to be looking for something to get upset about, though.

>>9763865
aw, im glad that you’ve improved anon! im sure your coordinates are lovely now

>>9763904
That is so typical of an American. Your cops kill people for fun so if course it's strange to imagine them helping. Here, our cops hold themselves to a higher regard. Like it was said earlier, they usually would put a stop to foolishness.

Honestly I cannot even get how one would want to be approached by a pig and even comforted by a pig, unless they are in a real (not imaginary) danger, then pigs might be good for a tiny portion of their existence. Was myself questioned by police about three criminal affairs and dislike them with a passion.

>>9763941
Lel, I said the cops in my area would help stop them, did you read past the American part? I thought it was funny to have such a problem with drunk people because it's illegal to drink in public or to have open bottles of alcohol on public transport in America. Stop believing everything sensationalist news tells you, and pull the bloomers out of your ass.

>>9763948
>Was myself questioned by police about three criminal affairs and dislike them with a passion.

You must be shady or involved with bad people for this to happen. The only unpleasant police experience I've ever had was just some grumpy old cop giving kids tickets because he was pissy, and we all got them dismissed.

>>9763303
I would roid rage, that shit fucking HURTS.

>>9763835
I am from Germany as well. Its been a while but i got in a fight between police and hooligans due to the reason a policeman told them to leave the young woman alone. The problem is always the high and drunken atmosphere of the soccer fans. Its to risky to say something. BUT gurl if you know the law they come and help you if there is a "Tatbestand". There are not your safe spot. We need to fucking close soccer clubs and there aggressive fans and not blaming our police. I know the feel but if nothing happens policeman are not allowed to risk trouble by talking to those drunk shits.

>>9764367
I know, if it would have gotten physical they would have done something.
But if you are in the situation I was, you still feel bad about it. It was simply a bad experience.

>>9763941
Do you just masturbate to anything the news tells you? Hilarious.

>>9763819
Lmao, you're the same angry cunt that insisted anon must be a professional victim and the cops did nothing wrong for not having basic human courtesy.
Either you're a salty cop who knows he's done shitty things in his career, or like >>9763900 said, you live in some shit-tier country and are so used to piss-poor treatment that you start getting buttblasted whenever anyone even hints at normally getting slightly better service or a non-crap police culture.

>>9764396
Sorry, no one admires America's police. It's third world-tier, most of your rapists and child molesters walk free after a year (but somehow shoplifting like $5 worth of food from a grocery store or possessing a bit of weed can land you in deep shit, especially if you're not white) and everyone knows your prisons are just glorified slavery mills.
Please don't push your collective, patriotic delusion about everything being okay in the US of A on the rest of us.

>>9764400
it is kind of funny how people can misread plain text so much. i have said that anon was not a professional victim yet and now i am reading that i have said that anon was a professional victim. it is hilarious, probably intentional though

>>9764367
>We need to fucking close soccer clubs
matriarchal society would be a truly creepy place to live, thanks for the insight. i bet there would be second class/cargo cars for men though like a certain famous feminist self-proclaimed sjw sci fi author dreams, huh

>>9764408
Theft under $1,000 alone is a felony misdemeanor friendo. No jail unless other crimes are tacked on, like evasion, resisting, etc. You get a fine and a court date. Weed is a misdemeanor in most major metros now, which is ~$150 fine and no court date.

What lands black people in jail for small amounts of pot is that they lie, hide it, are rude to officers and resists pat downs which are procedural if drugs are found even a small amount of pot. If you comply and are polite, regardless of skin color, many cops won't even bother with the ticket/fine.

Polite sage for OT.

>>9764421
ah so you are a guy

>>9764423
i thought it was obvious?

>>9764422
I strongly doubt 90% of non-white people who have ever been charged for possession of marijuana must have been lying, hid it and resisted pat downs, or at least not any more than a white possessor would (especially since by sheer population count, there would have to be more white people doing those things).
Also, as far as I know, being rude to officers is not a crime. It's shitty, but not a crime. A civilized country's court would tell cops to suck it up (rudeness from perps comes with the territory), and look at the actual meat of the situation.
I mean, even aside from that, some people from your country literally aren't even allowed become police officers if it's determined that their IQs are "too high".
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/court-police-departments-refuse-hire-smart/
What kind of insanity is this?

>>9764426
So, when you said "your next move is to say [we're] men", it wouldn't even have been wrong if they said that?

>>9764422
sure thing mate, google for the cases where you jailed a few people for life for stuff like shoplifting socks (and not resisting), stealing bycicles etc. three strikes law

usa has some of the toughest and most hilarious laws in the world and i think the highest prison population because of that

>>9764429
i didn't say it, it was another anon

This isn't a horror story. Just an odd situation. I still have no idea what a babydoll girl is. I assume it's some sort of fetish? I got the impression that this lady just wanted to take a photograph of us so that she could show it to her group of fellow parents and laugh at our expense.

>taking the train back home after a long meetup
>lady with a pram is eyeballing group of friends and I
>pram lady tries to take a sneaky photo
>people in the way of her shot
>pram lady walks over to us and asks whether we're "babydoll girls"
>what
>explain the fashion to her
>woman gives us blank stare and asks for photograph of us
>get the impression that she's just ignored everything we just said
>politely decline
>train arrives just in the for us to make our excuses and escape

>>9764434
if it had been a man asking you if you were "babydolls" you would likely claim it was verbal harassment

>>9764441
No silly, we would claim we were raped!

>>9764428
Stop talking like you know everything about a country you don't live in and you know nothing about. What a lot of you don't understand is how massive America is, and how much things vary by state and city, it's not fucking Mad Max wasteland out here. I've dealt with my police myself, and while theren are problems with them, opening the door and getting shot is one in hundreds of millions. I don't talk like I know everything about your country so do the same, you're embarrassing yourself.

>>9764434
Maybe she thought it was a costume? Like you were dressing up as babydoll? Though that reaction is always funny, if you correct them they just argue with you or creepily shut down and stare while saying nothing. Wearing lolita is asking like an ongoing social experiment, I want to study why people do things like this.

>>9764455
I didn't talk like I knew "everything", but I and the rest of the world know enough to understand that your police are pretty shitty by first world standards. That's literally what happens when you make the entire world your business and make a habit of inflating yourself as "the best" on a regular basis. People see the ugliness in your society, too. Your anecdotes might be fine, but numbers, confirmed hiring practices (smart people apparently can't be cops, lmao, arrest/ticket quotas, trigger-happy behavior, etc) just don't lie. Your country might not be a Mad Max wasteland yet, but your police certainly like to behave like it is more often than pretty much anywhere that's not a shithole. As such, no one envies you.

>>9764443
ok, you are cool, i give you that

>>9764466
So what perfect, utopian society do you live in so that we may compare?

>>9764526
Nearly ever other first world country's police is better. And that doesn't make them perfect utopias, just nowhere near as much of a shitstain as yours.
Get better, or deal with the banter.

>>9764466
>your police are pretty shitty by first world standards
Oh noes the best place still isn't perfect!!
Lets ignore places where they still cut people's hands off for stealing and the Chinese government.

Did you know that people in China go missing when they break the law sometimes? They don't go to jail - they just fucking vanish.

There's no such thing as an amazing place to live. If you stay some where long enough you'll realize there are fucked up things going on around you.

>>9763314
NYC. Which is pretty expectant, no one in the city has fucking manners.

>>9763343
I usually keep my volume to mid blast so I can hear my stop coming up. It also helps me be aware of local hoodlums being loud so I can avoid that too.
>>9763392
Well since gravity knives are illegal to carry hear I usually just give them a death stare and change cars or tell them to fuck off. There's not much you can really do in that situation because to the cops, you weren't assulted and had no reason to defend yourself. It's a really shitty city to plead self defense in.band I will be fanned if I'm spending the night in jail wearing Baby.

And yeah no, city cops in Murrica are fucking abysmal. If you're not white and dying, you're shit out of luck. If you're alternative "lolita, gay, goth, dyed hair, etc) they pull the "you deserve this" card real quick.

>>9764572
>Oh noes the best place still isn't perfect!!
The "best place", lmao. There's that American delusion again. Don't even get me started on other reasons why your country is trash, this thread is derailed enough.
I like how in order to make yourselves look better, you have to be compared to China, a much larger, even shittier country. Pathetic.

>>9764587
You seriously hate America and I can't see why. Like you don't have to love it, but your hatred for it is fucking insane and unsettling. Are you a mudslime, per chance? :^]

>>9764593
Understanding that a country is not a good place despite the fact that it continually inflates its sovereignty does not equate to hating it, but I guess a delusionally patriotic mind can't understand such nuances.
And no, I'm not Muslim, but good guess. I'm opposed to all religion.

>>976458

You're so racist right now it's almost a caricature. Hell, at least some racists understand some truths of the country they hate. You just hate America for completely made up reasons and you absolutely cannot be reasoned with. What kind of ass backwards "utopia" as another anon jokingly put it do you live in? Clearly the brainwashing is working.

Also
>let's stop derailing thread
>immediately continues

Pathetic attempt getting the last word.

>>9764601
>I'm opposed to all religion

Well, there's the first red flag. It's a mug atheism.

>>9764572
I'm from the US and I'm just curious what makes you say we're the best. Our dollar isn't the strongest, our education scores are lower than many, other countries besides ours have freedom (and in some cases more)...other than our military being the best funded, what claim do we have to being the best?

>>9764608
>>9764611
>"Hey, things are not very good in this country based on not only news reports, but published data on practices in this country."
>"Yeah but we're still the best"
>"But you're n-"
>"WOW, what the fuck. You just hate the country for absolutely FAKE, made-up reasons! Fake news! I bet you must live in a perfect utopia, huh? You're so racist! You just wanted the last word, pathetic! I bet you're a mudslime! Oh, you're not? Atheism is *such* a red flag! baka"
Okay.

>>9764621
I'm really hoping this person is baiting. Though they really are an accurate caricature of what passes for patriotism these days.

>>9764587
>>9764618
That was sarcasm based on the comment I replied to which said
>make a habit of inflating yourself as "the best" on a regular basis.

>>9764621
I never said America was the best. I'm just calling you an idiot because you're because saying it's the worst. You live in a black and white world with that.

Also, being an atheist isn't a red flag in of itself, you autist. It's going around saying "ackshually I oppose all relijon". I don't believe either, but now you only know because it became relevant. I dont loudly proclaim how much of a narrow minded, cynical cunt I am at every turn to try and look smart.

>>9764624
I wasn't even born here.

>>9764621
So where is the best place to live?

>>9764629
>you're because saying it's the worst.
Point out where I said that, exactly. You can't, because I didn't and you just freaked out at anyone pointing out anything bad about the place.
And you're upset because I said I don't like religion after someone asked if I was a "mudslime"? Yeah, okay. Makes perfect sense.
If this kind of sperging is common, I'm really glad I don't live in America or around plenty of Americans.

>>9764634
Forgot to add: So, someone uses a bigoted, actual racist term to describe people who practice a religion, and yet the person who simply says "I oppose all religion" is the "narrow-minded, cynical cunt" and the "racist" in your eyes.
Wew. Must be something in the water.

>>9764634
>I don't live in America or around plenty of Americans

All Muslims are shit. Im glad I don't live in the Middle East or anywhere around Muslims.

I'm dropping this. You're legitimately retarded. Like a 15 y/o who just figured out what "Politics" means in the dictionary.

>>9764628
Yeah, I was talking to you about who you were replying to, not about you. Sorry for being unclear.

>>9764641
>All Muslims are shit. Im glad I don't live in the Middle East or anywhere around Muslims.
Cool. Your bigotry doesn't affect me because I'm neither Middle Eastern or Muslim, no matter how much you want to believe. Still wondering how I'm the one who's "racist" here because I dared to criticize America's police system.
Hope you get that Murrica-branded stick out of your ass one day and get a chance to see the world. If you actually do end up attempting the latter, try not to be that stereotypical fat, annoying American tourist. They tend to mar beautiful places.

>>9764643
Were you both of those comments I replied to? They had different tones so I thought it was two different anons...

So. What is the best country to live in?

>>9764629
>I wasn't even born here.
So you came from one shitty place and are staunchly devoted to defending another shitty place out of some sort of denial? I guess that makes sense.

>>9764629
>Oh noes the best place still isn't perfect!!
>I never said America was the best
Dude, you're being deliberately stupid now. As someone who was born here, I'm not looking at our country through these crazy idealized glasses. We have some serious faults in our education system and our ability to accept criticism and change. It seems like no one is willing or able to even have open dialogue anymore. Blind patriotism is not an asset to this country.

>>9764650
That wasn't me..

Welcome to anon.

>>9764646
You're really dense. I'm trying to display how retarded talking so aggressively about a country you've never lived in or slandering people you've never met is. Sadly, your skull is too thick to actually perform comparisons.

>>9764651
>W-Wasn't me
Sure.
inb4 I'm now a muslim

>>9764651
Ahh, gotcha. Am still newfag and it feels like I'm talking to the same person.

>>9764655
I mean it wasn't. I arrived well after the person who said it was the best (also they apparently said so sarcastically, since scrolling up reveals the condescending cunt started this all up by saying that).

That said, if you're not convinced then... okay? I mean, not much I can do aside from saying I wasn't me.

>>9764652
>"I'm dropping this."
>comes back to post again
What were you saying about the last word? Regardless, forgive me if your "mudslime" comment didn't exactly give me high hopes on what you think of Muslims. So long and goodnight, burger-chan.

>>9764659
Are you still hung up on that word? Is that seriously what you're focused on?

>weh you said a racist word that's most prevalent on this site so now you're always wrong!

Nigger nigger nigger mudslime spic nigger etc.

>>9764658
I'm the anon who said it was sarcasm- I did not start this discussion

>>9764657
It's an inherent flaw with any real discussion here. Don't get me wrong, I love anonymity, but it does cross the wires a whole lot.

>>9764664
No, the guy before you I'm saying said it. Or are you that guy? Wew.

>>9764662
I mean, I'm not the one who was crying about "racism". It just seems a little hypocritical on your end is all.
Then again, you're the same person who accused me of saying America was the "worst" and that actual reports are "made-up". You're probably incapable of self-reflection.
>Nigger nigger nigger
I rest my case.

>>9764658
>I wasn't me.
Great Freudian slip

>>9764673
Or a rogue phone autocorrect? But sure. Freud can do it.

>>9764676
Ok.

>>9764648
None of them. They all have issues. Buy a small island and start your own country. Then you can name it whatever you want.

>>9764630
sweden is pretty chill :) and everyones welcome

we /int/ now

>>9764682
pls, no, i have a strong urge to post that captain sweden meme pic... ok, i will post a harmless pic instead. btw i have just found captain sweden "cosplay" but it's of a way too bad quality... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi5u-dAbu3U

Mt. Yan please fly your glorious plane into this derailed thread- you're our only hope....

I hate threads that get so far derailed from the point just because of a couple of autists mad because they'll never convince the other party that the opinion is the right opinion.

Shut up already.

not a "horror" story per se but left a bad taste in my mouth

>selling artwork at con with bf
>wearing pastel pink AP jsk with corresponding light, natural makeup, sheer lipgloss
>awkward old man photographer lurks around table, mainly when bf is not there.
>ohboy.jpg
>always speaks so softly that i can't hear him over the congoers, gets irked when he has to repeat himself, asks me if i have deafened myself using earbuds like all us young'uns like to do
>stands at table talking forever, doesn't buy anything
>asks to take pics of me, say yes so maybe he will go away
>won't take one with me standing behind the table, wants to take fullbody shot
>tells me "i know what i'm doing" when i do a basic lolita pose
>when finished taking pictures, i can't manage to slip back around my table, he keeps mumbling at me, getting so close i can feel his breath
>boyfriend comes back, oldman stands there talking for like 5 more minutes before finally leaving
>next day at con, i see him wandering around with his wife and grandkid. He only comes back to my table when they aren't around
>he asks why i'm not wearing "that dress" again
>wants to email me the pictures he took, say sure so he will go away
>later when checking email, see pictures
>he has photoshopped my face and added dark makeup to my lips and eyes
>print on dress is out of focus, colors and whole vibe of picture is just weird
>...ew.jpg

my friends and i actually saw the same guy earlier that year when i was in cosplay at a different con, he was just so awkward and kind of rude and just utterly failing to understand when people were done having a conversation with him

>>9758592
>Lolita Horror Stories
This thread

>>9764932
What the fuck that's absolutely a horror story. I'm sorry that happened to you, anon.

>>9764932
>>he has photoshopped my face and added dark makeup to my lips and eyes
>>print on dress is out of focus, colors and whole vibe of picture is just weird

that's where i smiled

>>9763208
>>9763904
In the US you can drink on trains. Amtrak has beer and wine available for passengers, at least.

>>9764932
Post it anon

>>9764682
I'm sure no crimes are ever committed there.

>>9764713
I get a kick out of reading arguments as discussions. I don't even watch tv anymore

>>9764539
>be European
>make post of facebook complaining about muslim raping my friend
>5 minutes later, police show up at my door
>get thrown in jail for racism

wow what a great police force you got there

>>9763865
You weren't allowed internet.
What the heck.

>>9765060
I grew up as a Jehovah witness and was not allowed internet.

>>9765153
I grew up as a JW too, I used the internet but my dad watched me like a hawk when I used it. It was my only connection to the outside world since I couldn't have non JW friends and wasn't allowed to go to public school. Growing up as a JW sucks.

>>9765153
>>9765060
Not Jehovah witness, but I also wasn't allowed internet growing up. Some parents just don't like their kids going online, I think.

>>9765169
>It was my only connection to the outside world since I couldn't have non JW friends and wasn't allowed to go to public school. Growing up as a JW sucks
Same. Only my mom was the JW so I only got online at my dads.

>>9765060
Back when dial-up was a thing the only time I was allowed to use the internet was around 6 am when no one would be trying to call the house. There was also a limit to how long it could be used every month before we would get charged for going over. My sister hid a spare cord because our parents would take the one attatched to the computer or cut it to punish us.

>>9765220
>the only time I was allowed to use the internet was around 6 am
really

>>9765225

>>9765153
>>9765169
>>9765215

Hello fellow JW children. It really did suck growing up didn't it? I got to go to public school though but that came with its own set of problems.

I had the internet, but I may be a bit older than some of you? I got the internet when I was 10 in the mid 90s- my mom was a JW in name only so I pretty much got to use it unsupervised. The other half of my family, the much MUCH more involved half, got it when I was 13 but it was such a new and shiny thing more or less at that point that they didn't know what they really had and so I still got to use it unsupervised. It was my ticket to social freedom and probably one of the most incredible things that ever happened to young me. My much younger half brother does not have the luxury of freedom with the internet that I did, sadly.

>>9758592

Let's see, horror story. It's not really a HORROR story, but it's pretty gross.

>Had a guy hit on me while I was wearing some plain/casual sweet years ago while I was at work
>He REALLY liked my outfit
>Gently tried to let him down by mentioning that I was engaged (my fiance was actually out of state at the time because his father had very suddenly died and I was unable to go with him).
>He was pretty polite and cool about it, and we chatted for a bit about a "Victorian society" one of the local universities ran.
>Offered to put me on their mailing list since he was a member
>I'm a fucking idiot because I'm not in the best of emotional states at the time. Could be fun? There's no local lolita comms around here so I'm desperate for anything close to one.
>Give him one of my email addresses.
>Get the most incredible goddamn email from him later that day, included how he's a poet for a magazine, engaged isn't married, wants me to be his muse, fiance doesn't have to know
>STILL TRY TO POLITELY LET HIM DOWN
>Is nice about it
>Find out later he's married

>>9765153
>>9765169
>>9765275
Also ex-JW here, small world huh? I was allowed internet for the fact that it was so new, I think. But when I was an older teenager we were forbidden from MySpace and similar social media platforms (I think someone even gave a talk about the evils of MySpace lol)

It’s so weird how now they have like embraced technology with their televangelism and iPads during meetings and shit

sage for unrelated. I am lucky not to have any bad experiences in this fashion thanks to America not really having public transit I guess

>>9764977
Amtrak is not the same as, say, the NYC subway.

Via Rail in Canada also serves wine and beer, but you'd get shit drinking on buses, street cars, or the subway.

>>9764682
Yeah minus the white nationalists that praise Hitler and shit all over foreigners.

>>9764704
dat file name tho

>>9758592
McMenu
https://youtu.be/U705EAx70Cw

>>9764396
I've seen the videos, man.

>>9764932
What do you class as horror if this doesn't qualify?

>>9765465
Those are fake anti-American propaganda, don't ya know.
If you disagree, you're a racist Muslim Atheist who hates America.

>>9765282
>small world huh
Not really- JWs are world wide unfortunately.

>It’s so weird how now they have like embraced technology with their televangelism and iPads during meetings and shit
They used to be against doing things like that. I wonder why they gave in.

>>9765487
At least we don't cut off people's heads.

>>9765503
Me neither. Some of us are from civilized countries where we don't trade one type of barbarism for another, anon, maybe you can't relate.

>>9765508
Pretty sure people get brutally murdered everywhere.

>>9765529
It's more common in some places than others, especially when it comes to people who are meant to be protecting the citizens doing it.

>>9765487
>All America is the same

>>9764937
thanks, anon. and >>9765470 I just guess it didn't seem that bad to me after reading some of the others where dudes followed/harrassed other gulls/stalked them for months; my encounter was creepy, sure, but it ended fairly quickly and i wasn't afraid of getting harmed

>>9764973
i was just kind of dumbfounded desu. made me feel unclean

>>9764978
in the grand scheme of things, i know no one really cares, but i still don't wanna post a pic of my face here, man. sorry

>>9763242
>>9763728
1, 2 polizei

>>9765501
I just meant that I’ve never met any other exJW lolitas. I know there are loads of exJWs in general.

Yea it’s teally strange. My mom recently started going back to them and she was like begging my siblings to buy her an iPad for meetings bc everyone else had one. It was really bizarre.

>>9766240
>I’ve never met any other exJW lolitas
Ah good point. Me either.

Sorry about your mom. That sounds weird as fuck.

>>9765538
The other board I frequent is /x/ and I've read an insane amount of missing people stories. My friends lived in China for a while and actually met people that vanished and they just never heard from them after hanging out for awhile. Like sometimes they would try to befriend people that suddenly they could no longer get a hold of.

Theres no such thing as a safe place on earth. I don't care how great your police force is.

>>9763214
fuck you anon you've obviously never had to use public transport after a major sporting event. Even in a normie disguise that shit is pretty horrid.

>>9765503
Nah, you guys just rape and torture anything brown before killing them off.

>>9764682
nah i never said were perfect, just that its THE BETS PLACE TO LIVE!! or no i think those goddamn norwegian beat us in every poll/measurement of happiness/safety etc. hate them cheerful sporty bitches. im gonna move there.

>>9766549
>rape and torture is worse than murder
>not just as bad
Lol ok normie. I think its retarded to not lump all those things into the same category. Sorry but there are awful evil people all around you and you probably don't even realize it.

I bet you live in a place that's lenient on paedophilia.

>>9766956
>I bet you live in a place that's lenient on paedophilia.
Like America, where it took 150 victims before an actual child molester was imprisoned for life? Where your producers and directors are known child predators and get off scott free (Dan Schneider, Woody Allen, Victor Salva)? Where no one bats an eye at the fact that one of your former presidents went on a plane nicknamed "The Lolita Express" and visited an island to molest underage people?

>>9766964
Shoo. No one cares about your poorly phrased and half researched antics here. Go share your tumblr politics on a proper board like r9k or your tumblr blog called “cishethaterfeministrevolution”

>>9767014
Tumblr people don't talk about any of the things I mentioned, but keep trying.

>>9767014
>tumblr politics
You have no idea what /pol/ is, do you?

>>9767212
>tfw /pol/ and /cgl/ crossboarder

Sometimes I feel like the only one.

>>9766964
Yeah. My point stands. Literally everywhere is shitty.

>>9767339
I'm ready for nazi lolita coords, kinda historically accurate too~!

Just came back from a small local con and had an awkward experience with an ita elitist.

For some background, this con has maybe 1000 people tops, and I usually go for merch and to see old friends, so I didn't put on a coord or dress up: just normie clothes basically.

So, my friends and I decide to go into a 'Ita or Lolita' panel for some good laughs, and it was a steaming hot mess. We sit near the front, there's one nice looking girl in some AP dress I can't name and a few other misc people. It takes the host a full ten minutes to show up, and she looked a HOT MESS. She has on a cheap pink wig, a SUPER ill fitting AP x Disney (the Ariel OP), no petti, cheap Hot Topic cosmic patterned tights, and no makeup. Her boyfriend is also dressed up in some Bodyline piece and looks better than her desu, but they set it up and ask for volunteers for the game show.

I go up, but FIRST, the host makes it clear that I should have some knowledge of Lolita - I just nod and say that I do and she goes with it. Nice AP girl goes up, and a Tohru cosplayer volunteers too and the games start. This girl's knowledge is literally limited to basic Tumblr Lolita - at one point, she said OTT sweet was ita because she was more into classic herself, and put herself and one of her youtuber fans as one of the ~notable faces~ of lolita. About halfway through, nice AP girl and I were so fed up because of the bullshit questions, including shitty lolita puns and answers that make no sense - example: what is the meaning of Lolita? Answer: anything but the book - that we start pounding through the questions so we can leave sooner.

So at the end, me and nice girl are tied and the girl has no clue what to do for a tie breaker, so she makes us list our favorite meme. I win (crying pizza cat vs Mr. yan on a horse), and lo and behold, my prize bag has a shitty handmade bow and some hard candy. I left not too long after she started talking about how to do Lolita on a budget, and just holy shit.

>>9759449
>“ oh soo it’s just a fetish thing you do in public. I get it now. I used to be into viberating underwear when I was your age.”

>>9758592
what country is that in op pic?

>>9767339
Gross.

>>9759449
> It's a fashion statement from Japan
> Oh I get it, it's a sex thing
You have to wonder if people do shit like that on purpose just piss you off or if they are actually that inept at communicating.

>>9767599
They most likely decide for themselves that it's a sex thing even before they ask us what it is, and they don't want to accept any other explanation.

>>9767601
I've only been a lolita for 2 n half years and I never encountered anyone confusing the name for the movie until recently my uber drive asked me what I was wearing and sure enough, she was confused and asked about the movie.

>>9767623
what movie

Would you be/ are you freaked out if a strange woman came up to you and really autistically complimented your outfit? If I ever saw a lolita out in normieland I wouldn't be intrusive but I probably couldn't keep my sperginess to myself

>>9767633
lolita you fucking youngfag.

>>9767623
It's not necessarily the name as it is the appearance of the fashion. You'd be surprised to know how many normies think you're probably some sex perv if you wear frills and bows and you're older than 8.

>>9767637
Not at all, compliments are nice, even if you're shy about it. As long as you don't say something weird, but that's just common sense.

>>9767339
You're not alone anon, except 4/pol is shit please transcend to glorious 8ch... although i do like a few good old shitposting threads around there
I hope there are more closet right-wingers in the community.

>>9767637
I've had fellow lolitas who were dressed in normie clothes come to me for directions/help etc. It's not weird, I really like it when someone compliments what I'm wearing and knows about lolita.

>>9763242
germany here, my city gives 40 euro fines if you have open containers and/or spill on the train. Ive seen people get bitched at for carrying a cone of pommes with sauce on it the point they basically were forced out of the train.. I think its only normally the train workers who give out the fines. Isnt this usually everywhere ? I guess with soccer games and carnival they cant really control or fine 100s of people breaking the rules.

>>9767733
>8ch
Pedo spotted

>>9767637
If you use words like jsk or coord than lolitas would recognize you as one of their own and not a random normie.

>>9766401
>in china the police are the ones making people disappear.
I hear your chances are better with whatever lurks in the woods.

>>9767733
you're sick. Get out.

Like actually mentally ill. Go get on medication and enter into group therapy for those friends you so desperately seek.

>>9763258
I mean I know you told that anon earlier about calling you a man but come the fuck on, dude. Back to /r9k/ with you.

>>9768574
what. i think you mistake two different anons for one because i am a man and never denied it. i'm also not a robot

>>9768129
damn, triggered? anon barely even said shit besides "8ch" and somehow that warrants "youre mentally ill and are desperate for friends"

you look like a nutcase while anon is carrying out a conversation, think before you type cause all youre saying is redundant baseless garbage

>>9759449
i hope she was embarrassed, thats rude as fuck and im getting pissed just picturing all the newbies saying "aaaah she didnt know dont bully!!!""

fucking spergs

>>9765577
not that anon but cover your face obvi, or blur it

>>9768901
how do we see the shoppled makeup then

>>9765060
OP here, the real story is
>age 12
>stayed up till 1am learning coding on internet
>banned from internet
I was only really allowed it for school projects while heavily monitored.

Shitty controlling home life honestly, glad I moved the fuck out

>>9767985
H-have you ever been to /pol/ on 8 c h? They literally have multiple threads are about ratting out pedo rings, it's probably the most anti-degeneracy board I can think of. It's also highly informative, although sure there is a fair amount of conspiracy that I think goes way too far. On the whole they're very good about facts and sources though.

>>9768129
What about 8pol is bad enough to warrant calling me mentally ill? I go there for the traditionalism and alternative news, sure there are a few things i disagree on but I think if you want to talk actual politics and happenings then 4/pol/ (home of disgusting REKT and gore threads, general shitposting from underage edgelords, nigger hate and feminism hate threads) is not a very good place, since 4chan is overrun by normies and 15 year olds anyway. I dont know about other 8 channel boards though

Holy shit, the fuck happened to this thread

>>9768963
Some tumblrina shat her bloomers over someone disagreeing with her.

>Be 23
>Heading home from evening class in sweet lolita
>Tired and just want to catch my train
>Train is of course delayed so waiting at the station looking pissed off
>Random guy in his 30s starts 10 minute one-sided conversation with me
>plsno.jpg
>Guy insists I look like some tv character I'd never heard of
>Train arrives
>Excuse myself and get home
>Get a text message that night
>"If you see me at (station name) again don't be a stranger ;)"

What the actual fuck.

>>9768909
>They literally have multiple threads are about ratting out pedo rings
What about the other boards there that definitely have child porn on them?

>>9768975
Pretty sure 8ch/4ch rivalry has nothing to do with tumblr.

>>9769082
It's the 8ch /pol/ poster strawmanning everyone disagreeing with them as Tumblr.

>>9769073
>Get a text message that night
Oh shit, how

>>9769114
I've never included my number in any social media accounts, so I suspect he had a connection in the community and it was passed along to him.

>>9768909
Are you aware that you just confirmed that you are indeed an 8ch?

>>9769080
Did you even read my post? I dont know about other boards, if they do then that's fucked up but its not my problem, nor will not visiting 8ch/pol/ really be any kind of effective boycotting. I dont even think 8 ch is even better on a whole ( >>9769082 heres your you) - i just dont take anyone who browses pol on 4chan seriously and suggested they should look elsewhere for better information.

>>9769139
Yes? Are you retarded?

Sorry for mad derailing, this is extremely OT.

>>9770078
>its not my problem
Wow yea you sure are helping.

If you praise an image board you're a fucking retard.

>>9759961
>Who talks to complete strangers about sex or fetishes?
Vanilla people who just found out about fetishes through 50 Shades and don't even know munches/clubs are a real thing. Have had several people start very awkward conversations with me about kink and its swung upwards dramatically when the first movie came out. It might be because I wear corporate goth type stuff to work but its still awkward as fuck because its both coworkers and clients and I really don't want to know this stuff about people I have to be professional around.

>>9769073
Anon please tell me you have a baseball bat or cast iron skillet or something heavy to hit people with because if he seriously got your number it'd be crazy to not consider he also knows where you live

Since we're mentioning fetish stuff:

>into kink but avoid mixing it with lolita (not into ageplay and don't want anyone to assume for personal reasons)
>had a fetflife profile
>handful of pics, no face, just to establish body type and that I'm an actual person
>be checking messages a bit after a lolita meetup
>long ass detailed message about how my outfit that day was too tempting and very graphic descriptions of what they'd do
>when i say detailed i mean they fucking knew my coord and some of the things were location-specific
>their profile had no actual photos, just drawings and memes
>i send a very firm message saying I would really prefer to keep the two separate and asking if they're also a member of the comm
>no response
>similar message after next meetup
>block account
>emptied my own account a few months ago because its a fuckin shit show on there anyway but kept it active for browsing events etc
>haven't checked it in several weeks
>new message from a different profile
>offering to buy my ticket for a kink event if I wear a certain OP and participate
>no pics again but lots of ddlg/nymph memes and has blocked profile listed as their dom
>some fucker tryna build a lolita harem in my comm??

>>9779070
>the kink community has no sense of boundaries whatsoever
Unbelievable, who would have thought

>>9764422
>felony misdemeanor
I don't think you understand.

>>9758592
Manchester?

>>9765037
>police arrest you for trolling online while migrants get away with rape
>tfw his isn’t even a joke.
>this is reality

My boyfriend fucked a girl who was in the same comm as me.

>>9784960
Hot, you into cuckquening too? Or did this end in disaster?

not that bad but very awkward so i figured id contribute
>going to the store in a pretty casual sweet coord
>jsk with white blouse and knee socks (you get the idea)
>get all my things, it was a small trip so i used self check out
>old man (probably 60 years old) walks up to me
>keep in mind that I look like a teenager
>"if you weren't so young I'd take you out on a date"
>i smiled and said thanks to be polite but desu i was kinda creeped out
>he goes on about how pretty I look for a minute
>make an excuse to leave
like i said it wasn't that bad, but if someone is obviously way too young for you, just say they look nice or something instead of saying you would date them, just left a bad taste in my mouth

>>9787902
He was very obviously asking you out on a date, but wanted to hide it under the rhetorical so it would come off as less creepy if you weren't into it but also give you an opening to correct him if you were.

Pretty smart on his part, to be honest. He knows how to play the game.

>>9787904
To elaborate a bit:
Scenario 1
>You don't like him
>You play it off exactly how you did
>Walk away without thinking about it too much other than feeling he was weird in how he complimented you
>Only have a hint of "was he hitting on me?" on the back of your mind but because of the way he worded it you can't take it too seriously

Scenario 2
>You're interested in him as well
>You correct him with "Actually, I like older guys" (as he hopes)
>He continues to lay on more moves and eventually gets in your petti

Either way, it's zero risk to him. He probably had the wrong idea that you were signaling you want old men with your outfit because pervy old men, would see it as a fetish outfit.

>>9787908
I hate old men

>>9787908

Discussion in feels thread made me think about this. What's the grossest thing you ever found in your lolita purchase?

>>9764682
>compares a country the size of California to the entire United States

>>9787930
>In b4 ancient orange peel incident

>>9787930

I found a dead cockroach in one of the pockets once.

>>9787930
>bought ~12 year old red dress
>wash it first, figured out one color catcher will be enough, it surely has been washed multiple times already
>take it out of the washing machine
>it's all pink
>poor color catcher is all red
>dresa was probably never washed before
And it's not the only one I have gotten that clearly was not either washed at all or very few times during like more than ten years. I find it extremely disgusting, no one would wear normal clothing that wasn't washed in years but yet it's normal in lolita apparently.

>>9787902
>keep in mind that I look like a teenager
Unnecessary tidbit to your story considering the guy is in his 60s. You sound naive or you're exaggerating on behalf of the old guys taste when clearly he was just exhibiting typical old man creeper behavior.

Was this your first time out in a big city or what?

This is my first time telling this story to anyone.
Be me
>2015
>17 turning 18 in 2 months
>Posting up some photoshoots i've done recently
>Some guy message me
>A known photographer wants some shoot
>Asking in a flirty way (have no idea at the time)
>Wants private shoot, only us on some grand hotel he currently staying in.
>Suggesting my sweet ero lolita
>He wants 2 sets. Dress and nudes
>Wtf no. No nudes
>He accepts. Sets time and date
>Be there as early i can be
>Tries to greet me with a kiss
>Dodged it, landed in the cheek
>Ignores this and discuss some pose and ideas.
>Be getting ready at the bathroom
>Messy me forgot to put my normal clothes in my back.
>Im ready. He want to use the bathroom first
>Realized my clothes are still there
>After he's done, i can tell someone dig into it.
>Wtf, my discharge stained panty is wet and the stain was gone
Continue?

>>9788576
Pls continue, i want to see how far your naivete takes you

>>9788385
Are you a fucking tard. Dry cleaning exists for a reason, you degenerate.

If it's red and an older piece it's always safer to dry clean.

>>9788576
wtf. were you retarded?

>>9788576
inb4 he licc the panty

>>9788576
I think this is fake, but continue.

>>9767599
Is there even a good response to this? I am considering saying "Actually, I'm asexual" but I am not sure that will have the effect I want.

>>9788528
No I go to town quite a bit but this was the only time an actual old man ever hit on me, maybe because I’m usually not by myself

>>9767599
You can always just ask them.

I love being snarky to people I don't know who think they need to ask me questions.

I live in a pretty safe area tho.

>>9788930
The only good retort is something even crazier, an even more moronic generalization/stereotype about east asia. They ask if it's a sex thing? Tell them

>No, it has nothing to do with sex. It's an eating dogs thing.

>>9758592
>They start harassing us, calling us names, making gang signs (?), the usual, but just more aggressively
>Tard starts crying
>God why

Never understood this, if you're going to go in public dressed specifically to get attention, why would you then get upset that you're getting attention?

>be shy teenager at first meet
>knew enough basics to not be ita, but cheaped out on shoes
>they seem a little tight but i figure whatever they're cute
>get lost on way to meetup, walk half a mile out of my way
>shoes begin to dig more little by little
>finally make it to meet, trying to walk normal because I'm not in guro
>everyone is already friends
>everyone is visibly older and better-dressed than i am
>people compliment me with an "i looked much worse at your age"
>attempt small talk with adults
>they're nice to me but clearly more interested in talking about fields of work and people they all know
>i leave a little early, now unapologetically limping
>get home and take off shoes
>back of each heel skinned, blood on shoes and tights
>I am now a lonelita