/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

-Stellure releases "One Step Ahead of the Game"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KQqEqta9fs

-Interlunium debut with "Intergalactic Disco" in English, Japanese and Korean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0QEN4qF_vU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYaH-b5Gs7Y

-Aurora Idols debut with "Midnight Strike"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAQ2yCYGDM0

-Honey Hime releases "WE WANNA HAVE IT ALL" which doesn't have a music video yet but is available for purchase on iTunes (first song on the album)
https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/super-eurobeat-vol-246/1321232717

-Aeonia Idols debut with "KIRAKIRA CHRISTMAS"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRV-LZP_eug

-Flusay Girls release "Brand New Day"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=733yiPgmRAc

>>9750015
Interlunium raised my expectations way too high to compare to the other groups. Out of curiosity, how old is the girl (boy?) from Aeonia? They look very young

reposting from old thread:
can someone explain to me the popularity of love live over idolmaster? I don't watch either anime but the music, design, and games seem better in idolmaster's case in many ways, yet no one covers them

>>9750730
Love Live is newer and has been releasing new content for the past several years, where as I haven't heard much new from Imas. Love Live also carries the theme of making yourself on your own, since the idols in LL are basically self created - the characters write their own music, make their own costumes, and manage themselves, which is appealing to a lot of younger idol enthusiasts who want to do the same. It has more of a fantasy charm than being hired into an agency like in Imas. But its been discussed here a lot how that's also the downfall of Love Live - that it shows such a naive idealistic portrayal of idols that it's getting fans into idol culture without any idea of the actual work involved in being a performer.

>>9750737
that actually makes a lot more sense, thanks

>>9750737
The other factor being that the games play a huge part in Love Live's popularity. It's available world wide and I believe at least for the moment, you would need a proxy to play starlight stage or million live, making it harder to have the reach that Love Live has. I'm a fan of both, but I definitely love the fact that SS and ML have high quality cg's of dances that are not only pretty to look at but also great for learning dances.

>>9750753
I haven’t opened any of my IM@S game’s in a few months, but as far as I remember you don’t necessarily need a proxy. You just need a way to create a Japanese account on your App or Play Store and use that to download.

>>9750758
It's easier to use QooApp. Does the overrides for you so you don't have to log in and out of accounts.

>>9750753
Most love live only fans are too lazy to look up guides and learn how to play foreign games. They'd rather be spoon fed lovelive than actually put in effort to get something better.

>>9750008
Have any of you heard of MeseMoa? They're a Japanese all male idol/odorite group and I love them so much
They actually started out doing a lot of Morning Musume covers, which is where their name came from (they used to be called Musumen)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXwTgmRBvss
(This is one of my favorite dance covers they've done)

And because I know you all want cringe, I found this goldmine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K55c6wGABDw


They've done dance covers but have also released their own songs

>>9750843
Idk how the formatting got messed up but that last part is about MeseMoa not that cover group thank god

>>9750737

> Love Live is newer and has been releasing new content for the past several years, where as I haven't heard much new from Imas

There's been two new ps4 games in the last two years, a brand new app for million live, several concerts and an anime for Side M with an app.

I'm going to overlook this ignorance because I can hardly blame you, it's not heavily advertised and there's not a big enough western crowd to spread the word.

>>9750870
There's some sort of licensing fuckery with Idolmaster too, I thought. Which is why none of the games will ever come out in English. If there were, it'd be a lot easier for young weebs to get into it like they can with LL (which has a really active EN server on the mobile game).

>>9750898

Yeah there is, they only localised one of the games on IOS and it cost a silly amount so I just emulated them onto my PSP.
Regardless I still buy the console games because There's no region locking on the console games because they're very easy to pick up (aside from 2, Chihaya is a miserable bitch) and vending machines are satan. The only thing you lose out on is the communication with the girls which admittedly I don't really play it for.

Despite everything that makes the games -difficult- to access, the lives are there on Nyaa to get, the phone apps aren't too shabby and the anime/movie are simple enough to get to. So the only thing I can put it down to is laziness and people like to be spoonfed. I honestly wish that the original girls had something like the Cinderella Girls game instead of cameos in Million Live because they'd possibly get more appreciation that way.

>>9750730
Love Live! is probably the most easily accessible to newcomers of idol franchises and idol culture.
>mobile game is available in English so there's no need to refer to fan-translated guides to navigate through it
>smaller cast of characters to get invested in
>pre-made cosplays of practically every outfit and costume are plentiful and affordable
>most dances are extremely basic and easy for beginners and amateurs to learn
>anime makes being a performer seem a lot simpler than it really is, convincing a lot of young weebs that they can do the same (e.g. Stellure)

>>9750051
>Interlunium raised my expectations way too high to compare to the other groups
If you don't mind Eurobeat, I'd say Honey Hime's song is on par with Interlunium's! The rest of them though... I get what you mean.

New to this thread and odottemita in general, so sorry in advance if this a stupid spoon-feeding type would f question, but I was wondering if anyone could give me some remmendations for people to follow that I could try to dance along to? I can’t play in my Kinect anymore, but like dancing for exercise.

>>9751014

Depends on what sort of covers you're looking for. To be honest you're better off browsing on a song-by-song basis because one group may be fantastic at a lot, but then totally suck at one. From experience if the dancer you're copying sucks then you're more likely to suck too.

>>9751017
Well, that’s part of the problem, anon, I don’t know any songs either

>>9751021

In which case I recommend checking out the spreadsheet in the OP (the first one) they have dances for different numbers of people, you may find something you like there - just make sure it's mirrored before downloading!

>>9750015
That Aurora Idols one is YIKES

How do people not realise that they sound bad??

>>9751076
believe me,

we have

>>9750843
Ive been waiting for someone to mention MeseMoa! They’ve made a good niche for themselves, especially since they’re the main “boy idol” group of their kind right now I think?

>>9750015
Interlunium sounds really good, especially their Korean group. It's a great debut.

Aeonia has um... spirit?

How much attention do you think Bandori will get now that an English release is coming for the app?

>>9750843
I don't know what's worse about that song cover, how out of sync it is or how they all sound half asleep

>>9750920
>>9750898
Out of curiosity, what's the restriction their licensing has on localization for their mobile games?

Hoshi Teruko back at it again

>>9750730
LoveLive is smart enough to push the fanchise worldwide. Almost all idol (an anime based) groups don't want to expand out of Japan. LoveLive don't have any competence out of Japan and rules the foreinger idol movement.

>>9751260
When Bandori EN server will be release? I'm waiting like when they announced

Is anyone else doing anything for 問題xSociety’s Overseas Idol Competition? I know I’m pretty excited to be entering! Don’t think I’ll win, but hopefully I gain a bit of exposure from it, haha.

>>9751260
Hopefully a lot? But as someone who’s accidentally stumbled upon Bandori and really likes rock music, I can really see either nobody liking them or only liking Pastel Palettes or Poppin’ Party and completely ignoring the rest.

>>9751327
Why does their logo look like TOP? Also a username would’ve been nice. It took me far too long to even find this.

>>9751407
I’m tempted to say this is only half true. I honestly don’t think it’s not that they don’t WANT to. It’s that they can’t see why they SHOULD. If IM@AS, WUG, or even AKB0048 had the same fast traction overseas as LL got for some odd reason, they definitely would. But there’s no gaurentee that it’d be successful so they don’t. LL in my opinion didn’t push anything. They just took a straight up chance. For example, if Bandori doesn’t get a lot of players or people stop playing after a time then I can see it being pulled all together.


So Interlunium. Can we talk about them? As great as they are for a virtual idol group, people should remember they aren’t like normal groups. They’ve been singing for a while (especially online) and have probably taken lessons. I love praising them but let’s not act like they’re just people coming together randomly to sing like most of these groups because that’s what I love best about them.

>>9751408
I think all they have said so far is this spring.

>>9751446

That’s what I like about interlunium, the fact that they seem way more professional and experienced.

https://youtu.be/bAhRqnrpxHk
This video was posted a couple days ago talking about how the creator came up with the idea and the whole process of getting a group like this together and making music.

Guys, I think I’m going to try and infiltrate Flusay Girls...should I do it?

>>9750008
These girls need a bootcamp instead of costumes.
Damn fattys

>>9751446


>I’m tempted to say this is only half true. I honestly don’t think it’s not that they don’t WANT to. It’s that they can’t see why they SHOULD. If IM@AS, WUG, or even AKB0048 had the same fast traction overseas as LL got for some odd reason, they definitely would. But there’s no gaurentee that it’d be successful so they don’t. LL in my opinion didn’t push anything. They just took a straight up chance. For example, if Bandori doesn’t get a lot of players or people stop playing after a time then I can see it being pulled all together.


The problem with the other idol anime is the years of bad rep without pr damage control was the horrors of the industry (look at any Japantimes article on idols). Wherever it is the skeeviness of the gravure business, or the extreme fans who have no understanding of social norms or whats hip, or how its rivals top 40 and kpop is trendier and doesnt beat around the bush when it comes to sex apleal. And it makes a lot of money in spite of the constant criticism

Ll! Has none of that. It was designed to be as wholesome as it can be about a glee club. It has a less biased demographic as well because of it. Still has plenty of male fans but LL knows when to sweep them under the rug to avoid bad stereotypes

>>9751685
Yes. Then spill every bit of drama.

>>9751697
It’s a sad moment when people immediately judge size before talent. I looked into them when the thread was started they’re really not that big. Second, I like them becuase they actually sing and dance and are on a higher level than most. I really don’t condone body shaming but if you’re gonna shame them, at least look at their talent first.

https://youtu.be/wwiWdrN7qpE

>>9751756
I would love to blow the other members clear out of the water, and then split off and work on a solo “career.”

>>9751407

After seeing weebs flock to LL I don't think I want them to ruin im@s for me. I'm kind of glad it's remained safe. I don't mind having to work a bit harder to find the content and new releases.

>>9751786
> I think I’m going to try and infiltrate Flusay Girls...should I do it?
>I would love to blow the other members clear out of the water, and then split off and work on a solo “career.”
As much as I would love to see that, wouldn't it just be a waste of time on your part? Rather than you outshining the rest of Flusay Girls, won't they just be dragging you down to their level?
If you have a good voice, Nanami's overkill autotuning will distort it. If you're a good dancer, your video might be edited alongside videos of other members dancing sloppily in their dumpy pajamas.

Do you really want to be associated with a group that makes shit like this, especially if you're planning on branching off into solo work later on?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxI2ljqRyoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1nmYuItX7E

>>9751076
>How do people not realise that they sound bad??
Delusion nurtured by ass-kissing.

>>9751898
I agree. If having less im@s content means that there are less weebs all over it (with the exception of some CG weebs), then I'm okay with that.

>>9751962
Ooh, true... yeah, I’d better not. I was thinking earlier that I also have another group I’m already a part of that’s planning on releasing (good) original content, so I don’t think I want that association.

>>9751410
What's this about? I've been out of the loop lately.

>>9752031
Juliane, Milky Kitty, 問題xSociety (Marble), and a few others started kind of network for overseas idols called Overseas Idol Collection. The contest is the first of its kind and its meant for net idols and general overseas idols (like Paida). The contest is for soloists and they have to send in a video of the singing and dancing to any song in Japanese or English. Everything has to be done by them too so they can’t get help with mixing or video editing or anything like that. The prize is some nice higher end software that would help an idol or idol group startup and not be shit if they learn how to use it. My favorite thing about it is that it completely ignores the shitty Instagram roleplay groups. They can’t apply becuase 99% of them don’t even show their faces.

>>9752041
Is there a link of some sort?

>>9752119
https://youtu.be/M7ptFv0YL1E

RIP my only YouTube subscriber is Natalie Davey

>>9752002
Ok, I’m going to go through and be a part of the audition process, but I’m going to bow out with an excuse at some point so I don’t end up in the group. The auditionees have to complete tasks, so I’m guessing it’ll be a fun little time killer until I find a way out.

I was going through one of net idol news pages a minute ago and say this group and listened to the small instrumental snippet. For the love of god don’t write a song or its title in another language if you don’t even know what’s the right word or particle to use.

>>9753288
It’s Zukiana, the “net idol” who’s in about every RP group there is...what do you expect?

>>9753469
I don’t follow these people by name I just know of the groups. Please elaborate.

>>9753539
Look up Zukiana on Instagram, and then look at any established RP group’s members, and you’ll probably see her there. She’s one of the ones on top, and thinks she’s a great singer. She’s really not. Not bad, but super mediocre.

Honey Hime and Crystal Rose appeared on Jmelo

>>9754059
Crystal Rose? I saw that Honey Hime won. I hope Crystal Rose did not send in that atrocious flower water.

>>9754059
Did they really send in that old ass song? Not that anything they would send would even be good but wow.

>>9754059
It feels like they had to find something nice to say about Crystal Rose

>>9754059
Here's the video. Honey Hime won an award for "Honey Hype!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2GCJ3rmv4g

Is anyone familiar with how the J-Melo awards work? Are the contestants selected by J-Melo staff, nominated by fans, or do they have to submit their own songs? If they submit themselves, I imagine Honey Hime's success might lead to more net idols or net idol groups participating, wanting to be acknowledged on a Japanese music show.

>>9754088
Yeah, while Honey Hime and Allison Mae's songs clearly impressed them, all they could say about Crystal Rose is that "they look like they're having fun."

>>9754114
Contestants in all cateogries submit their entries on the J-Melo website. They should be starting up 2018 entries soon and at the beginning of next year, they will select the submitted entries fot 2018. I will post a link to the 2018 submissioms when they open.

What makes her think that if she didn’t do good at J-Pop and was constantly shat on that she’s do good at K-Pop? The other two members are black and unless they’re people she dragged into this without them knowing anything of K-Pop, they’re probably far better than her.

>>9754438
This will probably last no longer than a month. Someone should warn those members about her past group failiures and the second hand embarrassment they will get onlinr being associated with her alone. If they suck at dancing, it will be worse.

>>9754545
Actually, the leader of the group was in Rebel Symphony before so I'm sure that she might know and her dancing is slightly better than Hoshi's but it's ultimately mediocre at best. I don't know why they made Hoshi "Lead Dancer".

>>9754598
At least she's not "Main Dancer"

Hayrii’s kicked her YouTube channel back up after she made a big deal about deleting her Facebook page.. What happened to that?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8oi2WI9vF4g

>>9754769
Okay but can we just talk about the prints on the wall in the background and that conveniently placed plushie

>>9754769
She looks haggard af, the hangover makeup does nothing for her.

>>9754769

This is even funnier to watch when muted.

>>9754874
Conveniently is an understatement.

>>9754769
i'm not familar with this girl, but just looking at this video is giving me flashbacks to the era of wannabe akiba idols with imouto / "eternal teenager" gimmicks who would wear twin tails, seifukus with randoseru or maid dresses, and dance in their pink anime-merch-filled bedrooms...

>>9755012
did u just describe abipop or

>>9755012

The fucking Otaku Owls, if any brits remember them.

>>9755012
Ah, I'll give you a rough rundown then..

>20-something years old
>Former /b/ camwhore under alias dwarfchan
>Has had at least 3 trips to Japan funded for her either by gofundme's or winning rigged contests
>Notorious for talking shit in Atlanta community
>Bullied Amina/Aminyan and then tried to ride her coattails

and most recently

>Made a big deal about deleting her idol page but then suddenly gained almost 2000 likes

>>9755050
(not the same anon you just replied to, but thanks for the info) isn't she also a member of danzoo dash? or is that someone else?

>>9755073
Yeah that's her, she was also briefly a member of Dansu to Pantsu.

oof guys. this is....pretty normiecore as far as it goes but i was just recently rejected from a cosplay dance group, and i'm not sure where i wanna go from here. Anybody else been rejected? what did you do?

>>9755171
Go solo, show them what they’re missing out on! Also, practice a lot and find another group to audition for. Don’t feel bad about yourself, don’t even give yourself room to feel dejected. Drink some hot chocolate!

>>9755171
If you feel strongly about joining that specific cosplay dance group, don't be afraid to keep up with them even if it's simply commenting or liking their content on social media. Cosplay dance groups go through a pretty high turnover rate and it could be that they had to limit the number of people they could take this round. In the meantime, keep practicing as you have the freedom to choose songs and dances you like. Good luck!

Dumb question from a newbie: What do you call those concert light sticks that change colors via LED (or more specifically, what keywords do I use to buy one online)? My friend had a nice one that pre-showed the LED color in a little inch wide window before you could push a button and tell it to light up completely in that color. I tried 'light stick', 'concert light stick', 'japanese concert stick', etc. but I'm not quite getting the same results?

>>9755310
They are called penlights! My favourite ones are the Lumica Lumiace ones, they run about 3,000 yen each.

>>9755310
>>9755320
I wouldn't recommend looking up terms like "light stick" or "penlights" by itself since it brings up different things majoirty of the time. Add a brand name like Lumica and King Blade to your search for more refined searches that will also give you better recommendations too.

>>9755320
>>9755322
Ugh thank you two, adding a "Lumica" got me the exact thing I wanted!

Idol Academy is a scam. Don't fall for this.

>>9755352
Vague information doesn’t do shit but be vague.

>>9755310
Search penlight in aliexpress, you can find some simple, good ones by 5$ I have one and it's nice

>>9755429

NTAYRT but I tried that just now and I'm just coming up with flashlights/torches?

>>9754120
Thanks for the info! I'm interested to see what sort of entries we'll see this year.

>>9755367
I looked into and apparently it's "professional dance and vocal training" specifically geared towards aspiring (convention?) idols.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncBeSJ1vGhc
https://idolacademyreg.wixsite.com/home/

>With our professional instructors guiding you on developing vocal and dancing skills and even creating a stage presence, with hard work in class you just might find yourself performing at your very own live at the end of the course!
>Idol Academy has a very special offer for those that complete the course - a chance to perform on a live stage! As a reward for all the hard work that students put into finishing the course, Idol Academy will offer a chance for course graduates to perform their course songs, on stage, at a Southern California Japanese festival!

I like the concept... I don't suspect that it's a scam (depending on the pricing, whether or not they're adequate teachers, etc.), but is this really offering anything special that I couldn't just take any other dance and/or vocal lessons, practice some J-pop covers of my choice, and apply to perform at a con or festival myself?

>>9755585
I see. That’s a good point about whether or not it’s worth it. I do think the difference between paying for your own classes and this is that it may be one lump fee (vs 2 or 3 or more for those separate classes) and it’s sepcifically geared to idols instead of general hip hop or pop or jazz dance for example. As far as the con thing goes, maybe they provide entrance to the con as well? Most places make you pay your own way but they could have something planned with the con(s) where you don’t have to buy a ticket if you’re with them. I don’t really think it’s more of a scam than H!P’s training though (which you have to pay for even if you pass an audition which makes no sense).

>>9755603
>I don’t really think it’s more of a scam than H!P’s training though (which you have to pay for even if you pass an audition which makes no sense).

H!P is a credited company with a long history in the Japanese music and idol industry. They know how to create successful idols and talents that go on to do well and constantly get jobs in the Japanese entertainment industry. This "Idol Academy" has no background, the mentors have no background (other than performing with Maidreamin for a weekend), has a free wix website, and probably doesn't even have a legal entity to represent them, so they're probably running their business illegally. They have no Japanese entertainment industry experience. It's no different from a random person creating a class, teaching, and taking money for it, just for them to teach you some Japanese dances from the internet and throw you up on a community event stage which is free to perform on anyways.

Why can people not see that this is an obvious scam straight from the get go. If you actually want to become an "idol", diet, exercise, dance, sing, and work on your looks by yourself. You don't need to pay someone to tell you what to do, you need self-motivation.

Who remembers Teya Berri from Berri group and the black weeb girl who called Amina racial slurs, posted on PULL about her and ended up making a “diss” saying she’d take Amina’s career. She went to Japan to try and become an idol in December and already in January she’s tweeting “I give up. Like I thought becoming an idol is impossible”
kek. This is just one horror story of weebs going to Japan thinking they’ll have it easy. It was easier for Keekihime and Aminyan because they can speak decent Japanese. My advice? Stay doing quality uploads on YouTube and performing locally like Peachy Parade does. There’s too many weebs in JP and idol companies aren’t out to help you with your dreams. They want cash.

>>9755670
Also...don’t be this girl. This girl came from Italy and thought she could be an idol and was on Why did you come to Japan and they made a huge joke of her. She appeared again and announced that she was “graduating” and “wanted to return to the life of a normal girl” despite being a no name joke on Japanese TV. If you want to Irl role play Love Live then stay in your own countries and work on your own skills. It’s kind of becoming a dangerous trend of foreigners who don’t stand a damn chance (fatties, people who can’t speak Japanese, Himezawa) going to Tokyo and making a fool out of themselves. Stop lol.

>>9755585
This looks like a total scam. Back in five years ago there was a company called World Otaku Mate which scouted girls from the weeb idol community to do nico lives for them and after Aminyan became their bread and butter, they asked her to move to Japan. According to her twitter they took a large part of her money from shows and didn’t invest in her(no dance classes, we all remember Amina only doing shows from empty basements in akiba). Just be aware there’s a ton of scams out there because the girls in this community are young and desperate for fame. >>9755585

>>9755484
fuck, well, here I brought mine
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Brightness-LED-concert-penlight-15-colors-Magic-Party-Concert-Light-Sticks-with-color-change/32804147620.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.9zf7su

Nobody is talking here about Momoka from Momoiro Clover Z graduation?
It seems she's tired from entertainment industry and only wants to be a normal person.
Now Momoclo will stay in a group of 4 girls or maybe they will scout new idols? Recently Dempagumi scout 2 new girls so it's possible.

>>9755725
>>>>/jp/

>>9755665
>>9755686
I'm >>9755585 and I see what you mean now. I did find quite a few things about Idol Academy off-putting especially the free Wix website, but I just interpreted it as a sort of introductory crash course for beginners aiming to perform at local conventions and small-scale events like that, not a gateway to becoming a professional idol in Japan.

>>9755670
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't feeling a bit smug about Teya failing to become an idol. Her personality and attitude are repulsive.

>>9755729
It’s karma desu. She fucked over a lot of girls in her local dance community and thought she was hot shit. She even lied about being haafu for a while and ironically enough even moving to Japan specifically for one audition, she fails in less than one month of moving.

Hilariously enough BerriTeam Victory, the group Teya was a “manager” for has been fully defunct since June of last year. I remember them buying 8k Facebook likes yet their twitter has under 100 followers still

>>9755729
That’s what I got at first too but only because that’s how it presents itself. It’s only 8 weeks (or a month since they have 2) and at the end they perform at a con. It’s not like they promise to become an idol.

>>9755670
Damn. She gave up that quick, when people who can’t even get an audition don’t get selected period? She should shut up.

>>9755742
I find it funny how she even landed an audition. It would have had to be some small company becuase as someone who’s tried and has Asian friends who have applied for auditions, they’re really picky even if you can pick up and go right after sending an audition form.

>>9755749
A shame. Good photography, mostly pretty girls who just needed some training. Wasted thanks to her.

>>9755722

Thanks anon!

Would you guys be interested in an anonymous YouTube channel that reviews original offshore idol content and compares it to better content out there? I’m considering starting one up, to hopefully encourage some of the mediocre groups to get better.

>>9755814
I would but it’d more than likely do nothing more than get your videos disliked by those people and get slammed with comments like “you’ve never done it it’s hard so shut up”

>>9755829
True, but that comes with any kind of critique video, really. Solar Sands, Ralphthemoviemaker, I Hate Everything...they all get tons of hate, and I’d expect no different for this sort of channel. I’d be prepared for it.

>>9755833
Well yeah but these are 13-17 year olds who think they’re always right. And it’s less of a critique video if you’re comparing to other people and not like... critiquing.

>>9755835
Oh, I’d be critiquing! What I meant by comparing is going and saying “x group could have done y thing more like z group, who did it like this.”

>>9755835
>>9755841
Also, you should look at the comments on Solar Sands’ channel, they’re the same type of kids who go on and on about “but haaaaaaard!” and “it’s my styyyyyyyyyle!”

>>9754114
.............. the first singer was clearly the best of them all, what the hell?

>>9755033
I'm friends with one of the other members, and I'm so glad that she grew out of this stuff lol

>>9756049
Yeah she is but I think it has to do with the fact that J-Melo is geared more towards J-Pop and idols. If it was a straight talent contest, she definitely would’ve won but Honey Hime is more “idol” than the rest and it’s also a lot more “fun” so that’s that.

>>9755814
Eh, I don’t think you can really do that anonymously. Anytime anyone gives their opinion about something I immediately want to know their credentials (professionally trained dancer or singer, someone super involved with the idol industry), otherwise I won’t listen to them because for all I know they’re just another teenager. I think if you did it not anonymously I would definitely be interested if you were qualified. That’s just my personal opinion though

>>9756691
Don't you think that's somewhat close minded though? I feel like as long as that person knows what they are talking about, their feedback is just as important. It doesn't take a genius or an expert to tell if someone's dancing is off rhythm or if someone's singing is out of pitch. Observing is easy, executing is difficult.

>>9756691
I’ve done musical theatre since I was ten, so I have a bit of a platform to stand on
>>9756716
Agreed. You don’t need to be über professional to offer concrit, and critiquing others is always easier than critiquing yourself.

>>9756716
>>9756722
I don’t necessarily think anon meant that they had to be a mega professional but generally, people would rather hear dance critique and instruction from someone who’s taken a dance class than from someone who’s only watched idol lives with no clear camera focus on dance. Wouldn’t you prefer to learn a song or dance from someone who is familiar with it than from someone who has seen it two or three times? It’s the same concept and not close minded at all. If you’re critiquing someone in a specific area, it’s better for that person to know what they’re talking about. You wouldn’t ask a math major to review your science essay.

>>9756809
Ah, I see!

>>9756716
>>9756722
Same anon here. I think offering concrit and making a YouTube channel offering concrit are completely different things. I think like you said a majority of people could notice those things, but that’s exactly why I think a person making a YouTube account should have more experience than the average person. If a majority of people can see when someone is off, why should I listen to you in particular and why are your opinions important enough for a YouTube channel? What makes your voice more special than anyone else that has a little dance experience? If you’re going to give concrit in a very public sphere, and on a platform that asks people to subscribe to you to hear your opinion, I think you need to have a reason why people should listen to you. Anon is a fellow musical theater nerd so I’m sure they know what they’re talking about, but I think it would be important to present the channel as feedback from an “expert” (I obviously don’t know anons experiences) rather than feedback from some rando on the internet.

>>9756809
Thank you for helping me to explain what I meant!

Ahhh, man, Start Splash is doing tryouts for a new Chika. I thought the old Chika was cute, sad to see her go

>>9757754
If anything, i'm surpsied how long their Yoshiko has lasted. She cannot handle criticism at all and overall has a ugly attitude if none sides or agrees with her.

>>9757764
I had to block her on Facebook because she kept on posting the same picture of her Umi in Love Live groups trying to get likes on her page on a near daily basis, so that doesn’t surprise me. It’s a shame the DFW love live groups are so toxic

>>9757764
And how exactly do you know this? I can't find anything in past threads or public posts to support that.

Does anyone know about the person who runs the Velvet Kitsune coalition? I was looking at her website and she is holding a lot of auditions for multiple groups. I don't get this. If one group looks dead, what makes it a good idea to make more inactive groups? It seems like she has no direction. And it doesn't look like she has prior experience at all either. People shouldn't be leading groups unless they have dealt with the hardships of being in a group beforehand. Period.

velvetkitsune com/audition-2017/

>>9758506
As far as the main group, Velvet Kitsune which is in NYC, goes, this is probably the third time in a year she’s opened auditions becuase literally no one has ever auditioned. It is probably be due to her lack of experience and to lack of actual promotion.

As far as Friday Rockets and Beta (and I guess Idol Avenue even though that’s a blogger thing), she should give up on that too. First off, Beta was a wreck with that drama they tried to do last year and even more they lost pretty much everyone but one girl in 2-3 months. That new solo girl was added right before two left. Second, Friday Rockets is bound to fail because she just assumes people will find her groups and audition. That’s not how that works at all.

AFAIK, those are the only 3 she plans to keep around and two are net idol. The big issue is the actual talented people doesn’t care and for net idols most are tied to one group or just don’t care about it. She just needs to give up already because it’s realistically been more than 2-3 years.

instagram com/p/BeL8uYGhtLT/

This is depressing.

>>9759116
The dancing is awful, but she has a decent voice!

>>9759116
She's a street performer? I wonder if she actually makes anything from it/if she's got a different job full time

>>9757981
Literally anyone who talks to her for a few days knows this. She's extremely sensitive and also loves starting drama (but claims to be against it). I kinda feel bad for her. She needs professional help, not internet attention.

>>9758506
Yes she's kind of terrible to work with desu. Without giving too much away she has unrealistic ideas about her own talent and how people should be when they work with her.

oh god...Mimi posted a teaser for "Stellure's First Live" on her story...

Don't they have like 3 songs? The new members aren't even in those, and with the new full-group song that's still only 4 songs

I can't wait to see this trainwreck evolve

>>9754769
>sagiri daki
ABSOLUTELY disgusting

>>9761469
It reminds me of what Citresse did a while back, but Citresse actually had a decent lineup of covers that they performed.

>>9761469
I wouldn’t be surprised if they were gonna pull a minty pop and actually had more songs than people thought.

This is the creator of Velvet Kitsune and honestly BETA sunk because only about two people really cared and the rest had relentless excuses on why they couldn’t send lines in on time(even for covers). If terrible to work with means having deadlines then I guess I am terrible to work with. Telling a person the day of you can’t send in lines while also complaining you want to sing when there was a cover assignment you totally ignored or “forgot about”. Also, I don’t think I’m super talented but know I have a lot to work on and was open to collab from all my group members. At this point the focus is VK, Idol Ave and BETA. Idol Avenue is behind because my BF got into medical school(yay) and I’m working around her at this point. I honestly don’t see why I should “give up” when BETA(Emi) is recording the first single.

>>9762088
If your current life is getting in the way of managing these groups, wouldn't it be wise to cut down? Wouldn't it be easier to have one group with one goal and theme versus multiples? I understand you have many ideas but you look overwhelmed and confused about the goals of each group. You obviously have important things going on but you priorities are messed up. Whats more important, your boyfriends medical school career (that somehow effects you?) or a group thats not taking off or have any success after 5+ years in existance? Take some time to think about it.

>>9761469
>Don't they have like 3 songs? The new members aren't even in those, and with the new full-group song that's still only 4 songs
They're going to be performing an entirely new song with all 9 members during the masquerade. Hopefully it'll be a bit more lively than their previous songs (Imagine how absolutely underwhelming a live performance of Let's Go Baby would be).

Sorry for my stupid question, but do masquerades require all the audio to be prerecorded? I'm wondering if Stellure has the option to sing live or if they're required to lip sync.

BF as in best friend, she writes for Idol Avenue so it is work related.

>>9762122
Did Mimi trace over a picture of Honoka for her pose in the drawing?

>>9762122
I was planning on going to the masquerade, now I gotta to see how this pans out

>>9762122
It’d be so funny if “Unwritten” referred to the status of the song at the moment

>>9762122
My question is are they competing or are they a half time show?

>>9762592
more than likely competing, as confirmations have been sent out recently

>>9762088
One thing to go off from is that I haven't seen any past content from you at all. There is an obvious lack of experience and focus here so maybe that's one of the reasons why people are saying you should give up. It makes no sense to me why someone would overload themselves with the responsibility of a group because of those factors.

This is (for the most part) probably the reason why your members (or anyone looking) just doesn't take Velvet Kitsune seriously or prioritize the group. You have been doing this for a long time and things haven't really taken off because there is nothing of substance or quality being brought to the table. Sorry this might sound rude, but if I were to put myself in the shoes of another member in your group, IMO I doubt I would not be excited working with you it because this all just comes across like any other same typical net idol group out there. Another thing to add is that as I listen to your first EP, the instrumental is in loops and doesn't fit the vocals, the singing is really flat, and the lyrics are boring. Not to mention that there is no promotion for these things or a sign of networking at all.

With all being said and done, I'm not telling you to give up on being an idol, persistence is important, but maybe leading a group isn't the right thing for you to do at the moment. Change your perspective on how you are doing things right now, >>9762111 has good advice to follow. If you want to have original music, learn music theory first or find someone who can commission work. Take vocal and dance classes. Go to those outside your group that are experienced to help you and give you advice.

I feel as though I should set the record straight that VK(AMP at that point) began as a college Japanese culture club that was successful and one of the biggest on campus for the culture and “just for fun clubs” while I was a student there. So no, it hasn’t been 5 years. It’s been 3 years of a Japanese culture club and 1 one-shot deal kind of single in 2016. There even is an A.M.P section on the website(beyond the homepage). Just club members that liked to talk about J-pop and listen to each others covers. I do not claim to know everything, that assumption is just made of me. Content has always been on the site since I opened it. [Star] gazer took me 6 months to put together but according to an anon it is bland and bad and not even an inkling of my capabilities. It’s incredibly unfair to hold up something, especially someone’s ardent attempt at a beginning and just toss it and say “there’s nothing”.
I have stuff just not a lot of stuff but I’m always working on new and better things behind the scenes. VK hasn’t gotten the dignity of actual criticism that I can actually use until this thread and trust me I’ve put it use in the last 24 hours. Like VK could be worse. I could literally have just an empty Facebook page and no songs or instrumentals. I’m currently working on a new song atm. It’s totally unfair to expect me to be polished right off the bat or think the stuff I’m currently working on will be no better than what I’ve done in the past and totally discount everything I’ve ever done being a total failure. I have taken the advice from yesterday and paired down what I had and now it is only VK and Idol Avenue(blogging). All auditions to all groups have been canceled so I’m focused on only music and content for VK. And I will be visiting my music professor at my alma matter to put the final touches on the first VK single at the school’s recording studio.

>>9763665
tl;dr:
>"waahh i worked ~SO HARD~ and none is defending me i deserve praise uwu"

Different anon but quit putting things into peoples mouth and twisting words. None is saying to give up but to rethink your priorities and the quality of content you are producing. Who wants to be in a generic net idol group with low quality content and a "leader" who responds to fair criticism like you did? Your giving nothing but excuses. What does a shitty weeb club have to do with your group? Please stop and get your priorities straightened out. I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt and see if you would be mature about the criticism (like what >>9763556 and >>9762111
said) but it's obvious now that you aren't.

Dear god I literally just took all the advice given to me and make changes to be more focused in the coming months. Do I not have a right to defend myself or provide some clarification about what I have been doing? Seriously?

VK has origins in the “weeb” club. So it is relevant(the first gen was formed in the club). You don’t have to care about that. It’s literally a side note.

>>9763753
>>9763770
Stop posting and go improve yourself.

instagram com/p/BeWJtk4goPS/

This isn’t good (more like mediocre) but I can tell that with Hoshi around, whatever they do will go to straight shit no matter how okay or good their dance is.

>>9762088

Hey Anna,
I want to start by saying I think you have a lot of potential. The music you compose is pretty good and upbeat; you have a good ear for arranging loops and chords together in a way that has strong highs and lows. I also think your graphic design and website skills are strong, and I've seen a high level of professionalism with most things you've put out. If you plan to continue with your projects (which I think you should), I agree with the posters saying you should condense them. I have kinda of a tough time keeping up with them all so correct me if I'm wrong, but BETA was meant to be for worldwide trainees while VK was the "real"idol unit based in NYC, right? I don't see the appeal of wanting to join a trainee unit when you have no intent to go to NYC and graduate to Velvet Kitsune, so that may have been a part of why the members of BETA weren't into it. It's a lot easier to just be immediately accepted into a full local group, especially now that so many are popping up. And to be honest I don't even know what Idol Avenue is about - a news site? I think you'd be able to keep up with everything better if you condensed your efforts.

I also never really saw you do much promoting beyond the Net-Idol facebook page. I know the community for net idols is really small and spread out, and there really aren't many people on that facebook page who aren't already in their own group. I would recommend branching out to Insta if you haven't already, making good use of the netidol tags as well as promoting at local conventions. NYC is probably one of the easier places in the States to appeal to weebs, and I know idols like Juliane are already making use of local support to gain traction all over the internet.

WHEW. Sorry for rambling. tl;dr you're talented, but you need to market it better and stop trying to do everything at once. Good luck to you two in the future and I'm looking forward to your debut single in February.

>>9762853
How can they compete with original characters? That's pretty much not allowed in any cosplay contest ever. Even if they entered as 'love live original designs' or whatever I don't think it would work.

>>9765181
For most masquerades you can choose to compete in craftsmanship catagories, performance, both or not at all. Don't know about the one they're entering though.

Any recommendations for audio mixing tutorials? I just started out and I want to post vocal as well as dance covers. I have an ok mic but I cant seem to get the audio to....mesh? like the backtrack and vocal track sound seperate no matter what I do, I'm not sure how to describe it

>>9765181
>>9765195
anon above is right. you also don't have to do a canon costume, it could be something completely original as long as it's themed correctly (japanese media/video game/etc) and they have reference photos for what they were aiming for when making the costumes. At least that's how it is in a quite a number of masquerades. I haven't read through katsucon's.

>>9755684
uh where can i watch this clip lol

>>9765514
seconding this

>>9755050
>winning rigged contests
Could you expand on that?

Did anyone go to any of the dance panels at Ohayocon? How were they?

>>9765514
>>9766591
I did some searching and found this.
https://youtu.be/fPVWC-sF1e8?t=4m13s
And this
https://twitter(.)com/iko922/status/952859388556922881/video/1

https://youtu.be/JEA7idStDgM

Ice Qream’s new cover is up. Although they were never really “amazing” in some aspects, I wish they would’ve at least tried to add more into the dance because it looks boring without all the extra shots like Buono had (it was much more lively with a band and the original dance shot is so boring). I can say that I am happy they didn’t complegely butcher the high notes though.

>>9766888
Thanks anon!
Jesus... It's hard enough for black/dark-skinned girls to make it into the idol industry, but she really thought she could make it with that body and that hair? Why didn't she lose the 30kg (~66 pounds) BEFORE traveling to Japan to make a fool of herself? Her referring to the girls at Akihabara Backstage Pass as "her rivals" (11:00) and shoveling heaps of noodles into her mouth while the audience laughs (12:40) are especially embarrassing.
Are there any videos of her singing or dancing anywhere? I would imagine she performs as good as she looks.

>>9764377
They need a lot of work, but they have potential. For their sake, I hope Hoshi spent her break actually trying to improve.

>>9766736
Not sure on the legitimacy, I had a few people tell me they saw the post before it was deleted, but it got written off at photoshop. She was barred from participating, but her best friend won instead.

>>9766888
As a black girl, this girl really makes me not to want to be an idol anymore. I mean it’s stupid on its own but this added element. Not to mention there are probably already hundreds of people who think foreigners of any kind trying to be an J-idol is weird. I really hope she saw this and learned from it.

>>9766888
God this would of been so much less cringy if she had put really any effort into her appearance. Weight is one thing but come on, at least do your hair and makeup....

>>9766888
I did some digging and found her (mostly) inactive twitter @reina_arisa. She must’ve actualy seen the show as she’s seen one of the Backstage girls tweet about it.

More so, this is from last year as she’s tweeted about it too:
dailymotion(.)com/video/x5pcozx

She sang Love Machine. She does dance like she looks. Her voice isn’t horrible but that’s way too much vibrato.

>>9767312
Forgot time stamp. Her segment is 9:50

>>9767222
Same. It sucks that there aren't many good black net idols. Amina is the only one I can think of.

Does anyone happen to know where to get custom kingblades like IchigoKitty had at her wedding?

>>9767406
you're joking right

>>9767497
Oh, Paida too. Can't forget about her.

Name some more for me, perhaps? (I'm being serious.) I'm talking about more prominent ones.

>>9767406
I think calling amina good is a stretch. While she’s not anything like what’s usially posted here, she’s still not all that great however that’s probably based more in personal preference. But honestly, besides her and Paida, I don’t know any others either.

>>9767430
I may be wrong but it's possible that she got custom designs for a plastic kingblade wrapper rather than custom kingblades?

>>9767540
Ohh that makes a lot of sense! Would you happen to know where I could get one?

>>9767566
Recently Aquarius, a LL group from Socal, had a friend help make custom kingblade wrappers for their anniversary live performance. Unfortunately, they only posted info about selling wrappers including credits to the friend who helped make the wrappers in their Instagram story so I can't find info about it anymore. You could try asking them!

Can more people please enter this competition for Tekko-con?! I want to see all the amazing dancers and groups!
http://www.teamtekko.us/dance/

>two months since miracle wave came out
>only one dance cover
it's hilarious how all these cookie cutter ll cover groups jump like flies to shit on every new song but no one's even touching that one.

>>9768273
They know their limits apparently. Can you link to that cover?

>>9768279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH7xrcRkSqA

There's definitely room for improvement but it's not bad at all.

>inb4 "we don't have our cosplays ready!"
i've seen groups do five day old dance covers in boring school uniforms just so they can be the first one's to do it

>>9768365

Nice triple cartwheel. No surprise seeing an Asian group pull this off

>>9768273

>Actual gymnastic skills required. Ninja skills optional

Gee I wonder

>>9767312
That link was deleted. After a lot of attempts I found one that works. Her part starts at 13:00.
http://www.dailymotion(.)com/video/x5pcekg

>>9763665
Didn't you legit try and sell your bland services to kids stupid enough to try and commission you? Maybe, i don't know, learn to make good music before trying to scam kids? On a side note, you're really coming off insufferable.

>>9764571
>The music you compose is pretty good and upbeat; you have a good ear for arranging loops and chords together in a way that has strong highs and lows.
Uhhh... that's very generous.
https://allyvk.bandcamp.com/track/together-entwined
https://allyvk.bandcamp.com/track/but-me-not-you
This singing and composition is almost on par with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAQ2yCYGDM0

>>9762122
I just realized Mimi has around 3 weeks to finish all nine costumes for the performance. That's worrying.

It’s obsessive to consistently attack a group currently working on improving. It’s also odd to never mention the four other instrumentals, which I think the other anon was referring to(count down~Zero and [Star]gazer) They are also on band camp and SoundCloud and what people listened to prior to paying me for the literally 2 I did. If I’m up front about where I am at then it’s the clients on discretion. If you dug deep enough in the Net-Idol group you’d see I linked my music and didn’t fabricate my limits.

>>9768365
the stunt is wrong but thats an okay replacement

>>9750898
This always makes me so sad because I'm a fan of the im@s animes and live shows and I'd love to get more invested in the franchise.

>>9751260
I was really excited when the anime for this aired but I ended up hating it. I still really like the design and music though so I might give it a try when it's released for EN.

Interlunium has started a kickstarter. It's at a goal of 10k which really makes me wonder how much they spent on their first single, and how much they sold. I want to support them, but I also don't feel super motivated to donate for some reason.

>>9769352
The prospect alone has me a little sketched out.

https://www.kickstarter . com/projects/interlunium/interluniums-second-single-campaign

I do appreciate the idea of extra funds going to the next single, but 10k feels like a lot to produce one song...

>>9769372
From what I know about song production, songs can cost anywhere from $1,500-$5,000 alone to produce. It looks like they have a pie chart showing where all the money individually goes, and a majority of that is to the artist and composers. The rest is going to pay other people on the project, it seems. Honestly, it seems pretty reasonable for what they're trying to produce.

>>9769352
They got ~130,000 views total on their first single, but I imagine the sales were significantly less than that. $10,000 seems like a reasonable goal to produce their next song, but I think the likelihood of them making that is pretty low.

The main reason I'm not super into Interlunium is that they're just music+art. I know they have a problem in that their members are spread out, but I really wish they had like MVs and costumes/live shows--those are an integral part of idol culture for me and Interlunium isn't hitting that mark.

>>9769445
I agree with this statement completely. It’s just repackaged vocaloid chorus videos with an original song which is impressive but not necessarily an idol group

>>9769372
Those reward tiers are pretty lackluster. A glow-in-the-dark bracelet for ~$35... A self-portrait, a "thank you" video, a bracelet and special privileges in a Discord server for $1,500... They'll be lucky to reach their goal.

I don't know why more net idols don't utilize websites like Redbubble or Society6 to sell merch without having to risk investing in manufacturing and shipping the merch themselves.

>>9769352
>>9769434
I always had a really weird feeling about Interlunium. I heard rumors on Tumblr that it was created by the two really popular YouTubers because they saw the popularity of the idol trend and wanted to take advantage of it. Since there was no hard proof, I didn’t necessarily believe it, but when I saw that the video wasn’t really that idol-y but rather more anime-y I started to wonder. This definitely gives me a bad taste in my mouth.
To create a super high end song, yes it takes $10,000. That’s like professional level production costs for names we would easily recognize. My issue is that Interlunium is nowhere near that popularity level yet. They’ve only had one song out and they’re already asking for a lot of money.
I’ve had friends produce songs for as low as $500. I’ve had people produce songs of Galaxy Disco’s quality for like $1000. I’ve been a part of a group that produced singles for young artists that asked for $10,000 and were able to fund 8 different artists with that money. When you are not making millions off of your song, you need to be careful about your budget. While I know a song could easily cost $10,000, I also know it could just as easily cost $3,000 for a slight difference in quality. So I don’t know if this is a budgeting issue or not.
I do believe that people should be properly compensated for their work. If Interluniums single had millions of views and sold a lot of copies, I would not be criticizing them. Or if they asked for a lower amount to produce another song to build their reputation. Apparently one girl funded their first single; while she shouldn’t have to do that I doubt she had ten thousand dollars lying around. They should stick to the quality they have right now and budget to build their reputation.

>>9769512
I just wanted to add that these estimates were used assuming that they record at a home studio since they’re YouTube singers and regularly produce content on their personal channels.

>>9769352
My biggest issue with this isn’t that they’re asking for money. It’s the way they’re asking for it. Even if they aren’t super popular, they should’ve done something like Patreon instead of Kickstarter (which people have suggested in their discord). They can ask for money but I’d rather support them long term instead of something so short. Even with documenting where this money goes, $10,000 in a 30 days with only 4koma is less than desirable. They have said before that they’re going to realease more content but they still haven’t. I personally am someone who’s very for fighting what’s conventional but even then, it’d be nice to have a website with more info and such. It would’ve been more fun to see something like an animated 4koma. I don’t think they’ll reach their goal and they made it an all or nothing.

>>9769352
>>9769541 here again. I just realized that they get paid for streams on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Music, and also from actual sales on iTunes and the like. I forget how many, but they said if they got a total of I think 200,000 on Spotify alone, they could fund their next single. Where’s that money going that they’re getting from these streams? I doubt they got people to agree to payment AFTER the single was released and Lilypichu gets money from her videos (not like mad money but still). So why do they need a $10k Kickstarter when they should still have a somewhat steady stream coming in?

>>9769541
Junko addressed that concern in the discord just now. Though when she said "we'll be able to make our album" I thought this was a single and not an album? Where was it mentioned that multiple songs were going to be made?

I want to support Interlunium but I agree that asking for that amount of money when they just started is crazy to me. They should take the time to develop as a group instead of jumping the gun for a new single right away.

>>9769327

Considering you're in that deep, you're doing pretty well. Most other people don't get that far.

>>9769574
Looks like she made a typo. Was just meant to be single.

>>9769372
It's kind of ridiculous in my personal opinion.
I know people who will can and will produce songs for others for $100-300, sure that doesn't include mixing or anything else, but for just a music track they don't need that much money.. Especially not for one song. I'd feel better if this was at least going towards several songs.

>>9769713
Well, to be fair, only 3k goes to the song. Plus, for 3 languages, 3 separate mixes (mixing 11 singers 3 times, timing and tuning is usually $80-$150 alone, mixing is around the same.) Most composers I know charge at least $1,000, usually more, especially for good quality and real instruments.

>>9769713
Most professional composers will charge a lot more. It also will be mixed and recorded 3 different times in 3 different languages like the previous single, I believe. It's a bit of a stretch considering the new fanbase, though.

>>9757754
They just introduced the new Chika. She looks pretty cute, I'd be okay with the replacement

Interlunium has already raised over 1k, revealing a new idol... voiced by the Rin/Hanamaru in Project:Starlight who is an actual Funimation Voice Actress

>>9769764
She's adorable!

Anyone have any new cringe to share?

facebook com/DanzooDash/videos/957206784418206/

>>9751697
calm down ana-chan

>>9771392

It never ceases to amaze me when people manage to butcher dances with very simple choreography.

>>9771392
>>9771622
The tiger is the same girl who butchered Let’s Aikatsu, one of the simplest songs ever. She just can’t dance.

>>9772070

Oh no. I'm having flashbacks to Nam. I actually remember that cover.
Also high waisted shorts are not her friend

>>9761469
BRO HOW FUCKING LONG HAS IT BEEN THEIR "FIRST LIVE"

>>9772219
Have a good Let’s Aikatsu cover to bleach your brain
https://youtu.be/Kpd4dDOCHKg

Interlunium has hit 7k on their kickstarter already, I’m kind of in awe. I’m excited for the new music

>>9772431
Me too, even if I'm really shocked and don't understand how they did it/why they needed 10k in the first place.

The more Interlunium talks about the new idols, the less interested I am in them. The original 7 weren’t any special anyway, but the added 4 (three of which have been revealed) just seem so cookie cuter and it’s boring now.

>>9768273

It takes practice, but it can be done.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av18904065/

>>9769787
Yikes

>>9773242
Yeah, it would have been much better to give people time to get to know the current ones first. I think they are cute but I couldn't tell you anything about any of the girls and yet 4 new ones right away? Nah

>>9773270
i wish they had the happy energy they had during the end bit for the video but this was nice; they're just a little stiff is all.

>>9772325
it's a good dance but is it so hard to lay the song over the video?

>>9768273
At Anime Los Angles I saw a group of Americans pull it off, but they are hardcore lovers.

>>9774026
I saw pics of a dance group in the miracle wave outfits on instagram but i've yet to find a video of their performance.

>>9774825

Aquarius?

>>9768273
Someone posted a clip of a group doing it and the Chika did gymnastics on their instagram story but I don't know what group it was

>>9774828
Yeah, that one.

So Interlunium reached their goal and are currently sitting at $11,021USD. The campaign doesn’t even end until the end of February so let’s see where they get to by then. I can’t believe there’s people who actually pledged to give them more than $100... I also feel like this would be a recurring thing (kickstarters to fund their singles).

>>9775556
God, I hope not. They can't just ask for 10k every time, that's crazy. If they had this kinda fanbase, I'm surprised they didn't make 10k in profit. This better go to more things than just one song.

>>9775556
I think MOM0KI stated somewhere that they wouldn't do anymore kickstarters after this and just do patreon at a later time?

Kind of OT but the leader of the flusay girls commented on one of my youtube videos and it's just confirming the idea that my main demographic is weeaboos.

>>9775556
man i wish life was that easy for me

>>9775880
It could be if you're a good singer and get popular doing anime covers.

Only tangentially related, but I figure Vocaloid has to do with the __-mita comm so welp.

I was never into the idol comm, although I was into Vocaloid. Now that I'm older and trying to do Vocaloid utattemita covers again, I realize that all the songs I know are all outdated.

Any other Vocaloid utattemita/odottemita gulls here?

>>9776129
I’m trying to learn Tricolor Airline right now! Not usually one for vocaloid stuff, but it’s too cute. I love airport/flight attendant styled music, it’s why I love PASSPO so much.

>>9776354
Awesome, anon! Would you or anyone else want to share Discord or contact info? It would be fun to collab!

Also, why is everyone so surprised by Interlunium's success? I just looked at their members, and professional VAs? Lilypichu? Big-name (weeb) Youtube singers/Youtaite? All these singers already have large followings individually, so I'm not surprised that altogether they managed to reach their goal, though I still think it's a bad precedent to set.

>>9776449
Because it is.

>>9776354
Ahh another Passpo fan, bless. They are so underrated

I have a terrible feeling Interlunium will reach $100,000 before the end of the month.

>>9776600
Yes!! I can’t wait to see their sister group perform at the Tokyo Olympics.

>>9776449
I’m Lady Sandwich#8192! Don’t have a good mic though, so I’m stuck with text chatting for now.

On a related note, would y’all want to start a /cgl/ idol Discord?

>>9776777
Not the previous anon, but I would love that!

Do you think we could organize covers and stuff too?

>>9776793
That would be great! One big resource for -ttemita and net idols, far from the Instagram idol RP groups.

>>9776777
>>9776793
>>9776839
A discors like this already exists! If you join a facebook group called Overseas Idol Collection, the admins have a link to the discord pinned to the group.

>>9776887
Ah crap, I don’t have a Facebook.

Why is there a middle age woman doing LL covers?

https://www facebook com/celestialidolsny/videos/848234548669255/

>>9777932
>https://www facebook com/celestialidolsny/videos/848234548669255/
I think this was already posed before.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQLYs9le_F8wB8Tns0i6rrw

Chilean Anime con's idolfest

https://youtu.be/CHmoY29Veuc
I love this except for the dark colored bloomers

There are so many good new dances I want to learn, but I'm slowly losing my motivation to be an odorite. Part of me would love to be as active as I used to be, I'd love for dancing to make me as happy as it used to-- I'd love to be able to express my love for my favorite idol groups through dance covers like before, but I just haven't been feeling it lately.

Perhaps I'll take some time to assess myself as a dancer, and I'll come back to doing it (even stronger than before) when I'm ready.

For anyone else in the same boat as me, just remember-- taking a break when you need to is a good idea. Especially when you feel as if you aren't where you'd like to be as a net idol, or you feel like it isn't enjoyable anymore. I wouldn't tell you to quit completely; just take breaks when necessary.

In the meantime, I wish all of the dancers (and net idols), whether new or old, luck in their endeavors. I hope to watch you grow as I grow as well.

>>9778285
looks like they're all just wearing random shorts under their skirts, not bloomers
everything else is so cute and matchy-matchy you'd think they would've atleast coordinated the colors of their undershorts

>>9776129
look into q'ulle/Manako and penta choreography, They still do new and updated vocaloid dances.

UK Idols! Currently hosting auditions for a new group~
Email chocolateboxidols@gmail.com for more information!

>>9781278

Do you have a page or anything like that or is it just through emails where you can get the info?

>>9781296
So far just the email~
But will be setting up an Instagram account and a Facebook page tonight. Would prefer emails though, to keep all in one place for now!

>>9781334

I'll drop you a message regarding where the group is based and what materials you'll be planning to cover and we'll go from there

>>9781336
Brilliant~!

Instagram for Chocolate Box Idols is up!
@chocolateboxidols

The profile picture is temporary until I’ve got an official logo~

Heard from inside source Sugar Stars has disbanded, apparently the girls had a disagreement and they haven’t spoken since November

I wonder what the disagreement was about...

>>9781818
It was just location issues there’s no milk here

>>9781818
>>9781825
That’s not what I heard...
I heard that they had a disagreement over one of the members lack of uploads or the fact they couldn’t film or something. I know my friend was super upset because one of the members unfriended her on Facebook and Instagram and stuff without talking things through

>>9781825
A simple location issue doesn’t sound like something you’d stop talking to your friends for months because of.

>>9781843

That makes sense, only two actually bothered so I figured it'd be that or the other two getting pissed at one hogging the limelight.

>>9782173
>>9781843
>>9781818
>>9782137
Ok so hi it’s Crystal (the yellow member) here. I don’t post in here often but I just wanted to clear some things about Sugar Stars as I noticed someone saying one of us ‘didn’t bother’ and i know it’s directed to me as I never got anything uploaded in the end.
1st off I have nothing against Hari or Ruu and I love them dearly. Just wanna make it clear.
There were loacation issues yes. The reason I was upset was due to the fact I made it a CLEAR requirement before AND after auditions that rehearsals at my place (I provided them with a postcode to look at distances) would be absolutely necessary once a month. From spring time till November l not ONE rehearsal was at my place. When we struggled for filming locations for Sekaichii, suggested the dance studio in my local gym. Both girls said it was too far for them. This frustrated me, as I stated, this was meant to be a requirement, and I was totally fine with meeting in Bath for rehearsals, I was flexible with that, but when it came down to it they both refused to meet the groups requirements.
Now, when it comes to my lack of uploads: it was NOT due to me not trying. I actually tried pretty hard to get stuff filmed, but on one occasion my camera died halfway through filming and we were in the middle of the woods lol (cont. in next post)

>>9782217
>>9782173
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>>9781818
>>9782137 and on the second, when I had something to go up for Halloween, the girls got frightened of getting a copyright strike, even though our editor said he found a clear way past it, and they wouldn’t let me upload it.
I then discovered that they had met up for filming days without me, which really hurt, as they were aware that me and my partner had split and I was relying on him for help filming, and was no longer able to film as I had nobody to help me, and minimal equipment (legit just a camera, no tripod or anything)
In the end we struggled to meet due to ALL of us having work, uni interviews, family engagements, ect, and we stopped talking after a while of trying to find a time to rehearse for a Christmas video.
Ruth at some point unfriended and unfollowed me on all social media. This hurts a lot still. I feel like she blames me solely for the groups downfall, which I think is unfair. But I just miss my friend really.
I just wanted to clear stuff up.
I have no beef with the girls, I’m not mad or angry
I’m just Really upset and saddened by the way things have gone.

>>9782219
If the girls want to make their sides of the story public then that’s totally up to them,, I just didn’t want people getting the wrong impressions of me ‘not bothering’ as this group is something i loves so so dearly and worked so hard to create. Me and Ruth have been through a lot together, and I would never want anything this silly to come between us.
(me and Ruth were two of the girls from the Original MintyPop who came up with the names and logos who got dumped by Phil to then make ‘MintyPop Girls’ , so we struggled through that together)

>>9781278
>>9781788
This isn't the place to be self-posting about your group.

>>9782361
?? I see others self posting all the time haha,,, I know this is a very central place for idol stuff, and actually received a lot of emails from people on this site :) I don’t see it as a problem, and I don’t think many other people do either~ sorry if you don’t like it though lol ,,

Can we get some idol outfit inspo?

sunrise's newest video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBBVzY2fmis

>>9782467
>Still didn't get rid of that ugly fat Mari

Research question as I’m designing uniforms rn: Would you prefer
-All idols wearing exact same outfit
Or
-All wearing similar outfit w slight differences (e.g. different bow placements)

>>9782511
Honestly, I like both. The biggest reason why is because I enjoyed it when idols would have costumes (either exactly the same or with slight differences) in their own colors. I know for smaller groups that’s not entirely possible but it is worth giving it a try. Maybe do both but with elements that can easily be attached/removed to make them the same or slightly different.

>>9782505
I have no issue with members who are fat, ugly, or both being in the/a group as long as they are hot shit. The group is about equal in terms of talent and I didn’t see any reason why Mari should be specifically ousted so.... They have no reason to remove her?

>>9782561
Thank you for your help~!!!

>>9782511
For me, I like slight differences but still pretty much the same(in there idol colors).
even if it just one idol wearing shorts with long sleeves and the other is a tank and shorts.

>>9762122
>A week until the performance and the song isn't mixed yet
Typical. Can't imagine much progress has been made with the choreography either.

>>9772325
Here's a comparison since I haven't made one of these in a while. Austin's dancing is miles better but she could use a better quality camera or edit the video to get rid of the black bars.
https://viewsync.net/watch?v=hPmUEMzASi4&t=2&v=Kpd4dDOCHKg&t=0

>>9782730
>we can offer some things in return for your hard work
You just know that "some things" are going to be bullshit like a drawing by Mimi or a thank you video.

>>9782563
she sticks out like a sore thumb anon

>>9782897
Becuase you think she’s fat... Literally didn't make a difference anon.

>>9782940

> you think she's fat
> think

Let's not beat around the bush. She's fat and doesn't look good. It's honestly worse when they try to palm off the chubby girls onto the characters who are busty as though boobs = chub. It doesn't.
They're usually OK in slower dances but they could potentially be holding back the rest of the group for more active ones because of their lack of fitness - the one with the ridiculous stunts for example.
Someone with flabby arms doing faster dances and arm movements just isn't going to look good and brings the others down.

>>9782951
I mean she's not bad anon. Tbh, no one really stands out in the video. You're only calling her out cuz she's fat/heavier than the rest of them, you don't have much of an argument otherwise. I'm sure there's another board on here if you wanna just fatshame people?

>>9782951
I mistyped. What I meant to say was “you think that because she’s fat.” >>9782961 is right when they say no one stands out. I would be concerned if everyone was super amazing and then there’s her. Get over it anon.

>>9782505
And who should they replace with? You? Lmao.

I watched it and it's not glaringly obvious as you're making it out to be. You sound like a bitter biddy who's mad because the fatty gets to be part of it and you don't, and how dare that should happen.

Found the fatties/other group members.

>>9782991
>less than 180lbs
>5’10
>not in any group
You sure?

How do fatties even watch love live? some girls in the anime got shamed for being fat and they werent even visibly so.

>>9783003
Anon, are you okay? I’m legit worried because it seems like you’re harboring some internalized hate.

>>9783005
I've sent only one message to this thread, are you okay?

>>9782993

You can claim to be whatever you want, but it doesn't change anything. You probably have your own mushroom farm growing in those rolls.

>>9783005
>>9783006

Some of y’all really over where arguing about who is and isn’t fat when this girl is right going unspoken of.

https://instagram.com/p/Be-y4-4BiQm/

>>9783016

Who the hell is this?
And why are they dancing in pajamas?

>>9783019
Don’t worry it gets worse. That’s not her final video. But this is one of her two.

https://youtu.be/-0THUkgTV4Q

I don't think it's right to shame a fat person for dancing. If that is their way of being active and trying to stay fit, then so be it.

>>9782951
it could look good, but what most don't realize is that the bigger you are the more energetic you have to be. The mari isn't energetic enough which is what makes her stand out. Granted a number of the members aren't energetic, but her size sticks her out more.

>>9783365
agreed, would you guys rather they sit on a couch and do nothing? They're being active.

>>9783424
>bigger you are the more energetic you have to be
What. Honestly confused at that.

>>9782467 this group reminds me of this image if zuramaru was replaced with mari

Any fresh cringe?

>>9783023
actually... it's kinda cute? the dance is really easy tho, which makes it a little boring to watch. at least, she's very good at making expressions, which a lot of people struggle with unless the song just requires smiling vacantly

>>9783705
One could put the same energy as someone half their size and look like they aren't doing much. They're moving more weight around, so they have to put more force into it. Just like if you're pushing a heavy weight, you have to put more into it than pushing a 5 pound one. This is also coming from someone who has lost weight over time, so I've seen the difference.

>>9783890
I thought the same thing!

>>9783890
Agreed, I looked at the original dance and it's just genuinely a boring song to cover. I don't think this one is that bad, just a bad choice.

Guess we’ll have to wait to see how Titania does for an official music video.

>>9784487

>>9784487
So they have time to find/teach an understudy, but not to make sure the music sounds good. Got it.

>>9776887
This group is neat, and I just followed a bunch of people! But is there something for people looking for like minded people to just do song (maybe dance) collaborations?

>>9784747
I use casting call club, it's probably not quite what you're looking for nor is it guaranteed, probably not the best resource, but I've done a few covers with people thanks to it so it's pretty fun.

Poptepipic covers are rolling in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZWvZEOdZZs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmdgo-_fTkQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRyZnfdbkpQ

>>9784747
I actually use the OIP discord to connect and make collaborations with other idols. I've seen lots of other collaborations happen because of it too so maybe try getting into their discord?

>>9784880
The first one is really cute oh my god. Both the Chinese ones are cute but the skit from the beginning was the cutest.

I’ve been thinking of covering the OP but I need to work out some kinks in it first.

https://youtu.be/hkXdZAp1ZE4
She must be giving her "agency" money to stay in there at this point. Also ended up buying likes on facebook.

>>9785581
What the fuck is with the random Japanese?

>>9785581
should've linked the "music video" for maximum cringe

while i'm talking i didn't drop the link lul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x5TcoboLcI

New Thread >>9788054