/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9743277
>You realize people go to jail for talking to minors in a sexual manor? JUST TALKING to minors in a sexual manor. Example: How to Catch a Predator.
To be fair, the whole premise around To Catch a Predator isn't just to catalog them talking explicitly to minors, but to catch them in the act of trying to commit sex acts with them. But a lot of people seem to think that John's only MO is to invade privacy, forgetting that he actively suggests sexual encounters with both minors and people who are nonconsenting. Asking a minor "when are we having sex?" is illegal, period.

>>9743288

I mean, John had the means to meet this minor as she was a regular at Planet Zero. So, in essence, it's the same to me. Also, he coaxed her number out of her for I believe it was game coins or something. So he definitely knew what he was doing. Also, Denice(sp?)'s reply was that of what Tyler said, he has done this before and she has to defend him for the sack of saving face and not letting it know her husband is a serial harasser, or at worst, a confirmed pedophile. Which to me is sick because he has kids, and knowing he has a wife and kids while doing this and basically telling his wife and everyone "lol yeah, I ask for noods from friends, suck it up"

remember the Leighs regularly defraud customers, investors, and guests. remember they set up a false charity confirmed by Masao(?) to never exist, siphoning money from AM attendees sympathetic toward victims of a tsunami, in order to pay their own bills and fund vacations. remember they aggressively took over the Houston lolita community and got people kicked out. remember that their claim to intend to sue Tyler is part of a years-long pattern of abuse, predation, and generally fraudulent behavior.

that they are going against her this hard, but not other videos or blogs on the topic, suggests she struck a nerve they are very sensitive about.

>>9743288

finally someone who thinks logically. Thank you.

This entire pedo thing is new and WEIRD, no one has proof. just like always.

please, show the same awkward creepy messages that have been screenshotted so we can all blow it out of proportion in the name of "sexual harassment prevention".

Its a catchy and feel-good cause, but no one ever thinks "what if i'm wrong", "what if im putting FAR too much trust in rumors".

>9743297

OOOOOOO a CONFIRMED pedo, that evolved! only days ago did the word surface, and now he's confirmed. Lets see some fucking proof before we jump on that mindless bandwagon like you did.

>>9743297
>a confirmed pedophile
Can someone hack is computer to check if he has PC pics of vids saved?

>>9743300
Uhh.....you didn't read the post you're quoting at all, did you? Like, you read the first sentence and thought it was to discredit the To Catch a Predator mention?
Also I'm laughing my actual ass off at you thinking no one has called John a pedo until this week. Post less, Google more.

>>9743301
That's a horrible idea anon, incriminating files should only be obtained by law enforcement and after a warrant has been issued. If someone had probable cause they should file a police report, but you can't force shit like that.

>>9743310
In France there a website where you can anonymously report pedo behaviors seen on the Internet. Is there anything like that in the US?

>>9743300
John, is that you??

>>9743234
Say it louder for the people in the back.

>>9743300
Hi Dennice, go choke on your pedo hubby's dick
oh wait.
He doesn't like them old, does he?

>>9743300

Asking a minor for sex is not a pedo thing anymore? I'm sorry, are you one of those Pedo is a sexuality people?

Anyway, there's enough proof of John asking people sexual questions, I'm sure he wouldn't ask "hey are you 18 before i offer you my mushroom dick?"

>>9743316
It's sad seeing stuff like this and realizing how shit your country really is. Closest thing is probably the tip page on the FBI website but it's not taken seriously.

>>9743358
Yeah exactly, I'm pretty sure the FBI page is just a courtesy but not something they actually give a fuck about.

>>9743300
>expecting people to think logically on 4chan
>>9743297
I don’t get how women can stand by their perverted husbands. Maybe it’s because I’m not married, but if my future husband ever spoke to a minor inappropriately I’d be on the minor’s side 100%.

>>9743662
If my husband ever said anything inappropriate to someone, we'd have words. If he did again, I'd divorce him and site the inappropriate conduct in the divorce.

You guys think they're gonna win since they fucking sued Tyler?

>>9743711
I hope she has to sell all her brand

>>9743711
At the moment they're not suing anybody. They're just trying to scare her.

>>9743738
Good

>>9743711
>>9743733
Hi Deneice

>>9743711
If they had a leg to stand on they would have just served her the papers instead of that cease and desist notice. They have nothing and they know it

I think it's obvious that this is just a scare tactic. I mean, surely John isn't that big of an idiot that he would take Tyler to court over something with evidence like this?

>your honor, she's calling me a pedo and sexual assaulter!!
>ok why
>well she has screenshots of me.... uh...
>go on
>of me.. just.... uh.....................

>>9743744
wtf i'm not this old bitch.

>>9743738
That's what I thought. And there are plenty of victims that could witness about how John harassed them. Especially if they're underage girls and he's an adult dude. He's gonna get fucking rekt.

>>9743747
This,they got no shit lmao

>>9743711
No. I deal with assholes like this at my job. Some copyright holders are serious premadonnas. Anyway, I guys like this who threaten to sue anyone and anything never ever follow through.

>>9743885
>wtf i'm not this old bitch.
With your obvious vandatta you sure sound like her. Fuck off back to your pedo husband Deneice.

When everyone is Deneice, nobody is

Frankly the C&D letter is ridiculous and I'm glad Tyler is going to fight it by seeking council. Odds are the Leighs will back down when they realize the can't frighten someone with a piece of paper into giving them a public apology.

Batty is shit but I love this idea

>>9744029
Wrong file dammit

The Leigh’s have to prove the slander is false and what was said ruins their ‘good standing’ in the community. Strange that they aren’t threatening with loss of business as well, because that’s what I would do if I really meant it/had a competent lawyer. It’s not slander if it is a) true and b) there is evidence to back the claim (so good luck with that, John). And you firstly have to have a good standing in the community for it to impact.

The only thing they might be able to make stick would be the use of the copyright logos without permission.

>>9743926
What? I just asked if anyone thought them suing Tyler would start shit.
I think John and Deneice are fucking disgusting and nobody in their right mind should defend them so I don't understand what the fuck you're going about you walnut.

>>9743282
You didn't hear it from me (wink), but I heard from a reliable source that John Leigh eats shit out of baby diapers. He especially likes the kind of diapers with really childish cartoon characters on them.

He also commits tax fraud.

>>9744091
It's true. A Lolita cosplayer I'm friends with (mtf) was threatened by John that he would rape her if she didn't let John suck her Dick.

>>9744031
Choke said the same thing. Something about 'we dont want pedos in our fashion!' was gonna comment back saying that I agree, we don't need anyone with bad morals here...like, you know, scammers.
But I felt like it detracted from the matter at hand and she's everyone's favourite victim right now so it would have backfired on me.

>>9744099
As much as I would have loved to see that, you're right; not a good time or place. Someday, anon, I want to see you call her out in the most delicious shade-throw ever like that...

>>9744067
The whole trademark thing is only when it's used to make a profit. They don't even have that.

>>9744115
As if anyone besides John would want to uses the anime matsuri logo for money

>>9743407
>>9743358

Aw. Where's Anonymous when you need them?

i'm so excited to see the judicial system essentially tell the lolita community to shut up.
SAYING you have proof of pedophilia or sexual harassment is completely different from actually having it.

I dont like John, but only because he's kinda creepy and weird. He ain't a fucking pedo or criminal though.

By shouting the shit and holding hands, doesn't mean you actually have a case. Please consider that you're throwing this youtuber under the bus FOR you, if you try to convince her that she has a case.

Slander may be difficultt to prove but the video in question is extremely hateful and inaccurate. She's gonna have a hard time defending it, even with an attorney.

I've already seen way worse shit being said by you guys than anything ive seen John actually said.

inb4 providing an article from the Houston Press written by a self proclaimed SJW that doesnt understand context is not proof, you fucking baboons.

for those who fail to understand, im not defending a pedo, im trying to ACTUALLY SHOW that he is one. If he IS, then the fucker needs to be taken down, but literally EVERYONE has failed to prove that.

If you say im wrong, and fail to provide proof, then kindly go fuck yourself.

>>9744200
Oh it's you again. Here's your (You), now go away.

>>9744200
Where did you get your law degree?

HCC?

>>9744200
Idgt. I don't think he's a pedo, I think lolitas should stop supporting him because I've seen enough proof that he's not a trustworthy businessman and doesn't care about the people he works with. He could fuck things up for Japanese brands and models in the US.

Is Tyler a girl (male) or girl (female)?

>>9744200

>>9744207
ad hominem isn't kawaii anon

>>9744203
did you attempt to link something or am I missing something? just gotta copy and paste a URL or click Choose File to upload something. I'm here and wanting evidence so I can join your ranks, but here I am waiting.

>>9744204
you confusing basic human rationale with a law degree says more about you than it does me.

>>9744209
It's honest curiosity, I swear. I began following this and started watching some of their videos but I can't really tell. If it really matters I kind of side with them on the whole thing at this point in time.

I want remind people that Cathy Cat has been receiving rape threats ever since ScarfingScarves make these videos.

>>9744223

THIS is exactly what I'm talking about.
You guys always were, but you are ESPECIALLY so much worse.

Have. Fun. Losing. In. Court. you hate mongering pieces of shit. This is exactly what you get.

>>9744223

also, where did you see this?
I've heard this from several people I trust, but as always, proof is definitely needed for something that drastic.

>>9744223
Imma echo you here you pedo loving faggot. Waiting for proof on that or it didn't happen.

>>9744226
Cathy, please chill.

>>9744223
>rape threats
>from lolitas
OKAY.JPG

>>9744226
Have fun eating those words honey. Your pedo prince is going down.

>>9744223
>>9744226
There were no rape threats, this is a lie posted by someone who wanted to curry pity for Cathy Cat. They never posted proof of these threats, either.
>rape threats from Lolitas
Seems legit, John and Deneice.

>>9744223
Can I see them? What did they say? I would seriously love to know how a lolita goes about raping.

Weird. still not proof of anything.

Guess there's our answer!~

Thanks everyone for playing.

The only verdict we have here is that John said some weird shit to someone that was uncalled for, and then all of a sudden didn't anymore.
FB comments and messages like the ones I've seen can't unfortunately put someone in jail.

Ill repeat it since you illiterate "experts on law" seem to have missed it, but Im not defending him. If there's PROOF, I'll pay for the attorney MYSELF to bring that bastard down.

I'm just as excited for Tyler as I am sad for her that she thinks shes going into this with a loaded gun. Stop while youre ahead or fucking back up the shit you spew.

>>9744239
i second this. im curious myself.

Knowing how vindictive you people are, she probably (but obviously not confirmed) got something that said:

"I hope you get raped, so you know how it feels"

Because that is TOTALLY something you hate mongers would tell her or someone you think is" defending john"

>>9744244
>>9744239

but as we all know, rape is not at all within the picture.
a pleasant reminder that weird as shit messages or comments are not rape, molestation or pedophilia. I know that's hard to wrap your tiny heads around

This keeps getting crazier and crazier

you fbtards need to keep it on fb. stop fucking tainting and starting threads.

LURK FIRST, SHITBAGS

>>9744259
>stop posting threads on 4chan i want to see who you are

can we bring up the itasha group and how gross they really are

>>9744223
She says she does, but lol, sure ok
Totally happened

>>9744207
girl (female) afaik
>>9744209 I doubt anon was trying to be mean, I wondered if for a while too, but like I said pretty sure she's a bio-female

>>9744243
Cathy! Baby! Wow! Chill!

>>9744266
Itasha is bae, fuck off

Iirc in the video Tyler doesn't actually call him a pedophile, she calls him an alleged pedophile. If she called him a pedophile she's making a claim, but if she's calling him an alleged pedophile she's acknowledging that the accounts are not substantiated in court, it's just her opinion that he is pedophilic. The first could be considered a defamatory claim. The second is a non-actionable opinion. Tyler is fine and the Leigh's attorney is a dumbfuck.

>>9744223
You know since so many of. you AM people demand proof just to say it didn't happen. I am going to do the same. Pics or it didn't happen. She hasn't said a word and so until she does any posts like these will never be taken seriously.

If this board had poster ids I'm sure this thread would look hilarious

>>9744243
Still waiting for proof of the rape threats against Cathy Cat from you. Oh wait....you have none.

>>9744243
Spencer, shut the fuck up.

>>9744325
Don't tell me BadOuji is apart of Team John...

>>9744340
No it's just someone who seems to have a vendetta at this point and keeps trying to make him relevant.

>>9744341
probably his ex then, lol

>>9744325
>>9744340
>>9744325
Please stop slandering my name; I haven’t posted in this thread. I get it that I pissed off a mod and now they’re trying to roast me whenever they get a chance.

So if this does go to court would it be open to the public to see it happen? Could a bunch of lolitas sit in the courtroom for support?

>>9744341
>>9744358
Not his ex, just someone tired of his bullshit. It's obvious that it's him. Demanding proof of allegations that aren't quotes from facebook, bragging about throwing money around, sarcastic and condescending attitude. If it isn't him I'll be shocked

>>9744382
Nope. While this is under a civil case, this can go straight to a state case because Tyler doesn't live in the city. Only hearing this from someone who studied law. If it does go to a state case, the semantics of it sounds too much of hassle for the Leighs and Tyler to deal with. A long ardurous processing time.....

>>9744210
Wow. You're pretty dense on social cues, aren't you? Aspergers, I'm assuming?

>>9744386

>Demanding proof of allegations that aren't quotes from facebook.

Im moreso just giving you guys an idea of how the legal system works. throwing money around? no. making a point about how I WOULD be your side if there was proof of the shit youre throwing around

>>9744433
I agree. Innocent until proven guilty.

>>9744439

otherwise, shouting pedo, rapist, and whatever SERIOUS crime just becomes a sick game for this sadistic do-gooders

>>9744204
>HCC
my sides, anon

>>9744439
It’s Innocent World until proven guilty.

Wouldn't a court case be about proving or disproving whether or not Tyler's videos are defamation, slander, harassment, and copyright infringement, not about whether or not John is a pedophile? So I don't understand why people are asking for further proof of John's actions when really, Tyler is the one who would be taken to court for the above mentioned. And from what I've seen others mention on Facebook and threads here, it seems the Leigh's have a weak case for proving Tyler's videos are copyright infringement, slander, defamation, and harassment.

>>9744625
The court case is a cease and desist. If tayler doesn’t make a public apology to the Leighs, cathycat and ask Japanese by tomorrow, they will proceede with a court hearing. I’ll admit, the Leighs have some balls thinking this will work considering their argument is weaker then hers. No doubt this is them doing a scare tactic on her to force her into silence.

>>9744104
Oh man, I totally will. It really pisses me off that she has such disgusting business practises but gets away with it because she's pretty and coords well. But I could sperg about that forever. It doesn't make her story any less credible, but gosh she pisses me off.

>>9744625
Well, some of those legal definitions are contingent on whether or not the inflammatory claims made are true and whether or not there's any evidence that can be brought before the court. It would definitely need to be discussed, but whether or not John would be charged with pedophilia or solicitation would depend on a handful of things. If it happens, it probably won't happen during this particular case but this one may lead to that as the next step.

>>9744207
She's a biological woman. I don't really see what's so mannish about her face that you'd think otherwise. I guess she does have a low voice, but it's kind of low like emma stone, not low like a man. Idk.

>>9744340
badouji is cringey as fuuuuuuuuck. Who gets plates with their online handle on, just after making that handle? Weird.

>>9744629
I really don’t think it will bode well for the Leighs. The mean, Tayler is just relaying all the information we can get on our own with basic search of the internet. She’s essentially not defaming them more then they have already been defamed. It’s not going to affect their shops sales of the sales at SiW. All it’s doing is showing that Cathycat and the Leighs can’t handle negative attention. The fact that they are going to this length to cover up the information that is out there on multiple platforms in even more foul language then Tayler’s shows that they are guilty of something and they know it. It’s fishy behavior and not looking good in the least for them. M

But I’m sure they did this more as a scare tactic to Tayler more then any thing. I don’t see them going through a lengthy legal battle becuase “ she called me doodie head”. But they are pretty childish and immature, so maybe they will. All it will do is call forth witnesses to back Tayler more and probably hurt their egos more then it’s wounded now.

>>9744223
No one would ever want to rape this piece of ita trash.

>>9744634
It's not as bad as having 'Sonichu' plates.

>>9744433
I feel like quotes from John Leigh himself in a facebook chat would be enough for evidence, but I guess not. Stop trying to be the devil's advocate Spencer

>>9744634
Almost everything he does is for satire and some people fell for it.

>>9744741
Or at least I hope it’s for satire.

>>9743282
The C&D wasn't even filled out properly and was done by the Leigh's bankruptcy lawyer (who not surprisingly is just a friend of the family because they're seen tagged together in Facebook photos hanging out). They couldn't try to pull this shit with the Houston Chronicle, so they're trying to shut down the issues resurfacing again after so long.

They're trash for a million reasons other than John's disgusting sexual misconduct, so any and all bad publicity for them is a-okay by me.

>>9744765
>c&d is filled out improperly
>lawyer is their bankruptcy lawyer
>known pictures of leigh screw balls with him

Yeah that’s going to be convincing. What a piece of shit trying to pull that scare tactic. Isn’t that illegal? To forge a legal document with the intent to spread fear?

>>9743300
Don't get mad because you were late to a party to that's been going on for a good few years.

>>9744765
I messaged her about the inconsistencies in the C&D, still no response. It really seems like a friend favor, and definitely a scare tactic.
4 days is not enough time, it's supposed to be 10-15.
She's only a "part time" lawyer too.
What a hack.

>>9744685
I dont think it is enough evidence to incriminate him for his actions, but it should suffice for Tyler's defense to defamation, etc.

>>9744815
It is.

>>9744679
If the only thing it's not as bad as is CWC, then it's still pretty damn bad

>>9744630
I truly didn't mean offense but the face just seemed very masculine to me, spot on with the voice tho.

Someone who is unbiased towards both sides (or doesn't care what the outcome is) please explain this entire situation for me because I can't understand shit from the people white knighting each belligerent since they're all contradictory.

Best response option to this hack lawyer
“The letter I received is without any merit whatsoever. You’ve given us X days to X before you file a lawsuit. That’s nice of you, but let’s not drag this out. Go ahead and file the suit tomorrow if that’s in your client’s best interest. But if I receive any more communication from your office beyond that this matter is dropped, I will sue your client and sue you personally for malicious prosecution according to Texas Civil Procedure Sec. 9.011”

Because this clearly falls under (2) groundless and brought for the purpose of harassment and maybe a bit of (1) groundless and brought forth in bad faith

>>9744995
>spoon feed me so I don't have to do my own research!
fuck off.

>>9744921
sorry if my tone sounded harsh, I I get what youre saying.
sage for non-contribution

>>9745106
I did do my own research you illiterate retard. It's just a bunch of Lolitas and con staff yelling indiscriminately at each other and telling anyone who supports the other side to get raped. Now off yourself faggot.

>>9745191

Nobody is telling anyone to get raped on the lolita not support AM side. Y'all can stop that shit.

>>9745191
>Because this type of response is absolutely going to make other lolitas want to help you
looks like the faggot is you.

So John Leigh is the Harvey Weinstein of conventions?

>>9745411
Not really. As far as anyone knows, he's never slept with any lolitas.

>>9745421

It doesn't sound like Harvey Weinstein slept with any of the actresses either.

Hello Daniela Michel! Having fun defending your sugar daddy?

>>9745519
Who you quoting?

>>9745411
I'd say he's more like Bill Clinton. Deneice is Hillary.

>>9745421
>never slept with any lolitas
including his wife lmfao

>>9744302
She states that the claims are he is an alleged paedophile, everything after that is hyperbole and name-calling, which is in no way illegal or slanderous.

>>9744226
Lol. She isn't going to lose that case. Libel isn't libel if it's true. It will be awkward when she just holds up a quote of him admitting to this behavior publically in his own words.

I feel like a lot of people aren't really taking into account what she actually said in her videos. She didn't say anything that didn't have a screen shot alongside it, or immediately refer to a source. She didn't say anyone raped anyone. She just put information into a video that was already freely available.

I feel like a lot of people arent really taking into account what she actually said in her videos. She didnt say anything that didn't have a screen shot alongside it or immediately refer to a source. She didnt say anyone raped anyone. She just put information into a video that was already freely available.