/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9721455
It's not dead yet, it still has to go through court

>>9721457
We can only hope since 83% are against it. But they're powerful and rich so they can fuck us over.

It won’t, you’re just panicking

>>9721466
>nothing impacts me ever
companies would not have been pushing for change if they didn’t want to do something. whether that change will be positive, negative or unrelated to our communities is up for debate... hence OP’s question

>>9721455
>>9721455
I have thought about this and figured that for lolita, Amino would definitely explode or be utilized more if the situation is that bad.

We already hate having to use Facebook so app based comms would probably be the next big migration like Livejournal to Facebook was.

>tfw european

>>9722014
Same. Feels good.
But I'm legit worried about my american friends.

It is NOT dead. The FCC voted, but Congress didn’t (and Congress is the vote that matters, and that we have been working toward - the FCC can’t do jack by itself). CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE.

It won't.
Net neutrality wasn't even a thing till Obama.

Stop fear mongering.

Nobody cares.

>>9722451
Net neutrality wasn’t a thing until companies started pushing boundaries with data throttling, etc. Stop making shit partisan that isn’t.

>>9722456
Okay, so how is data throttling going to effect lolita comms? Assuming of course that every single company is out for the sole purpose to fuck everyone over instead of actually keeping a customer base?

It isnt. Shut the fuck up unless you actually know what you're talking about.

Yes, I mad

There are only three countries in the world with net neitrality: Chile, The Netherlands and the US. If it passes only two will remain. All the other countries in the world don’t have net neutrality and those comms are just as alive on social media as others. So stop creating unneccesary panic.

>>9722554
https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/policies/open-internet-net-neutrality

>>9722430
I'm worried about how little they know about their legal system

I hope net neutrality is repealed so the annoying americans can get the fuck off the internet
But seriously, if you can afford $300 dresses, I'm sure you can afford a social media plan.

>>9721489
I would totally be okay joining comms on an app as opposed to something like facebook.

I admit, though, I like using my laptop more than my phone. Especially for commenting and posting pictures. Phones are great but computers are still just way better. It's so hard to find a mobile app that also works well on a desktop site.

>>9722568
to be fair, we don't go out of our way to get people interested in it.

>>9722554
>implying that what the US does won’t have downstream effects on the world economy

How did 2009 go for your country exactly

>>9722607
nobody does,. you should be interested in it on your own as a normal functioning adult allowed to vote.

>>9722669
lol

literally nothing to worry about. LMAOing at all the Bugmen on reddit and normiebook freaking out because they think their video games and social media are at risk.

>>9722720
It's not about stuff being at risk, it's about allowing ISPs to ream your ass as badly as your TV cable company does. It's about giving free license to turn the internet into a feudal style network where you pay a local tax every time you talk to a server outside your city walls.

>/cgl/ in charge of politics
Even without Net Neutrality, the court cases ruling against throttling and such (see Verizon) are still valid and keep them from scummy tactics.

Sage for retardation.

>>9722456
This person in >>9722477 is making a good point. Throttling is a concern, but not a concern for people sharing their coordinate images, simple IM, and the ilk. That's only going to affect people into gaming or things pulling mass amounts of data. They're the ones who should be worried about it.

It's hosting servers (whether private servers or people like GoDaddy and Hostgator), schools, colleges, gamers, and the ilk it would really affect in the short-term whether it be throttling or other facets of what the repeal would allow.

We're just going to have to wait and see. If shit gets totally fucked up, the government will eventually have to step back in to fix it. Right now they're hoping that doesn't happen.

>>9722867
It’s also about how a lack of an even playing field will make competition difficult for new companies. I’m confident most people reading haven’t got a clue about global economics, but consider the future where the potential next Twitter or Facebook is only allowed to run usably fast on the networks of ISPs that don’t own a competitor. Now expand that beyond just social media sites to everything ISPs could own. This will have huge consequences for the future of the internet no matter where you live. Make your Weibo account today.

>>9722914
If a monopoly situation happens, it may get torn down. It's happened multiple times throughout U.S. history that the government has stepped in to dismantle monopolies. If it gets to that point, the federal government will eventually be forced to step in. The last time I really know off the top of my head of this occurrence was in 1983, the U.S. Department of Justice forced Bell Telephone Company to abandon their monopoly.

>>9722917
In theory, with a working government, sure. Have you been paying attention to the productivity (and attitude toward laissez-faire economics) in Congress over the last 2 decades? That aside, do you think Cheeto Hitler would sign a bill like that (because they ain’t gettin a veto proof majority, not with how many congresspeople are owned by donors). I personally don’t want to wait 3/7 years (or more) to be able to unknot this bullshit.

>>9722917
>>9722919
Also, go check out the AT&T/TW merger situation from this fall if you want a good idea of the likelihood of this administration looking out for the consumer against monopoly.

>>9722919
If the atomic tangerine scoundrel doesn't start fixing his shit, we really are looking at only 3 more years.

We just have to wait and see. Sage now because of all the places a Net Neutrality discussion belongs, it isn't /cgl/.

>>9722867
And even in a worst case scenario with blocking and extra fees, it likely isn't going to affect Japanese websites. They're one of our few, and biggest, allies at this point. Nobody is going to be messing with access to buy our brand.

>>9722554
> what is europe

have fun with your slow facebook senpai

>>9721455
they are going to make us pay to access japan sites. uploading a bunch of pictures will cost. in the old days ]less than 20] I had a hard time loading foreign picture heavy site. I also couldn't access certain country's.

>>9722992
The Netherlands is in Europe.

>>9721455
>Tfw can't get internet in my home anyway because it's not profitable for companies to spread to my area
I'm glad that the rest of the country will feel some internet related pain desu. My college will likely buy the best package for students, and I'll definitely have access to foreign sites through it if this doesn't get shot down.

>>9722927
>They're one of our few, and biggest, allies at this point
What kind of a paid shill are you that you're blatantly conflating nation state relations with the private enterprises that control the internet backbone links?
National alliances have zilch, nothing to do with comcast and verizon rate limiting niconico videos and pixiv.

It’s genuinely not that big of a deal
Australia never had net neutrality and the US only just got it a couple years ago
It’s less impactful than you think

>>9723217
Wait, reddit told me that basically the modern era is over and I should prepare to relive the Dark Ages. Are you telling me they overreacted?

>>9722014
You shouldn't forget though that some companies tried the same over here.

It will have no effect on anything. Net Neutrality as a concept was politicized explicitly for the 2008 election. The fact that it returned as a politicized issue during Trump hysteria is not a coincidence.

>>9722917
A shitload of federal regulatory agencies are now victims of regulatory capture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture
When Trumps admin came through, these agencies lost a fuckton of career workers who either resigned or were outright removed. Just look at the mess that is the EPA at the moment.

Don't need to worry about it. The ISPs made commitments with the FTC that are enforceable by FTC. We, in effect, got a little bit of the NN legislation without passing the entire 400 page whatever it was. ISPs aren't allowed to throttle or block content in secret.

They can try to throttle content, by they must advertise this. The consumer backlash is the check and balance against this.

>>9723217
This, all it allows is for the FTC to start watching what happens with the big companies, which now allows antitrust laws to be in effect. Reddit and the media are just using scare tactics, so the useful idiots can bash trump.

>>9723291
Woke af my dude. Also waiting for stocks and real estate to go on sale in late 2019, if you catch my drift

>>9722919
>>9722923
>BLANALD BLUMF ORANGE HITLER REEE
Retard alert

Also
>atomic
lol

>>9722908
the govt wont be able to just step back in. they would have to bust the monopolies. its easier to just keep net neutrality as it is.
>>9722917
they didn't abandon their monopoly. its was reorganized. I don't know how much big phone pays you but this is different. the people against net neutrality don't know how the internet works.
>>9722921
att is bell telephone and I believe tw leased from bell. so ma bell is reorganizing again. everyone read my last post.
>>9722927
japan isn't our all around ally. we have been arguing with them since George bush sr. they are an ally against china.
>>9723053
all American universitys have a firewall, filter, and vpn(but not on all computers). the universities/public libraries were sued for more open internet.
>>9723100
niconico will be one of the first sites limited. the old japan sites were limited. something about nodes.
>>9723217
the usa didn't need neutrality until about 17 yrs ago. Australians have to use usa sites cause of net neutrality. there is a reason why you guys don't have a 4chan and reddit.
>>9723303
you don't understand how America works.
>>9723306
lie

>>9723333

>>9723770
Because you know damn well shills be hanging on frilly dress and pastel puke central.

>>9721455
It's not going to do shit... No one complained when Obama gave the internet to an international organization, but everyone complaining when Trump repeals an act that didn't exist prior to 2015. Ugh... Did lolita comms exist b4 2015? Ask yourself that one first.