/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Hell yeah! I'll wear lolita 'til I'm dead.

Is it me or is tokyo alice more expensive than other secondhand shops?

>>9718621
That candycandy merch is adorable.
Will still carry my candycandy bag around even when i'm 80 idgaf

>>9718696
Just a little bit more expensive then closet child. But it also depends on the brand/item.

>>9718696
Not as bad as wunderwelt imo

Finally got my IW invoice from the sale, only scored on one dress, but I'm pleased either way. It's my first direct from brand purchase! How long does it take for them to ship it? Do you get a tracking number?

>>9718736

I scored one pair of socks and one bag. I was hoping for two but I guess that's that...

>>9718736
Generally they ship very fast, and they always have a tracking number but around sales they can sometimes be negligent/late in sending you that information in an email. Last sale I didn't get my tracking number until after it arrived.

>>9718718
Wunderwelt justifies their cost by having a far nicer website and photo quality than any of the other second-hand shops, you're essentially paying for the convenience.

>>9718790
Yeah, I was trying for another dress, a pair of socks and matching bow to the dress I did get. Still, it's exciting! Means I can sock more money away for end of year LPs.
>>9718800
Ah, thank you for the info! I hope they send tracking info promptly, I really kind of love obsessively checking package progress.

>>9718804
In my experience Wunderwelt overcharges on shipping and underestimates the wear/damage on a lot of their pieces. Stuff I got from them that were listed as "good condition" were in noticeably worse condition than "good condition" things I've gotten from other places.

I still use them though because they update the most/most consistently nowadays and they often have good shit.

>>9718696
I've actually gotten quite a few good deals from their site.

How does one go about ordering from Fril? Is it just like ordering from Rakuten normally, or do I need a SS?

>>9719011
You need an SS. Not all SS will do Fril either. Japonica market will for sure.

>>9719011
>>9710177

>>9719011
>>9719015
Thanks anons!
Sorry, I didn't see the other thread. The image looked like the dream dress thread image to me while browsing, kek.

Where is there a good place to buy uniquely colored blouses? I'm looking for grey and preferably chiffon material. Thank you!

>>9719028
Lady Sloth has the biggest color selection I've seen for blouses.

>>9719028
Krad Lanrete currently has a gray chiffon blouse

>>9718621
I mean, I know you're free to wear whatever you like, but it's kind of embarrassing to yourself and to the lolita community once you're that old.

>>9719062
Agree.

>>9719062
It's not really a big accomplishment to bait gulls, you can say literally anything and they will bite

how do you gulls deal with a bad haircut? I find almost every time I get a haircut western hairstylists don't know how to give me what i want. (rip my hime bangs, theres a section on one side of the long piece that was cut short like my main bangs)

>>9719269
Fuck, the first time I got my bangs cut I showed them a picture of a hime cut and they cut off the longer parts and I had like a ridiculous half bowl cut. Nasty. Try finding some Asian place that will do it for you you’ll probably have more luck desu.
>>9719068
This.

>>9719269
western hairstylist also messed up my bangs (didn't cut them in the "triangle" but haphazardly) so i just let them grow a little, separated them in the triangle i wanted, and am currently growing out the weird parts.

i pin the weird bits underneath the rest of my hair on the side of my head. it helps to twist them into the rest of your hair and make a style out of it. nothing to do but wait unfortunately... on the bright side i've learned how to trim my own bangs and side pieces now so it'll never happen again RIP

Why is Shabad still spamming Rufflechat if she supposedly "left" lolita?

>>9719274
sorry, can you show picture of what you mean by triangle here?

>>9719269
>>9719272
When it comes to getting non-shitty bangs, I've found that you HAVE to explain to them EXACTLY how to cut the side fringe, specifying where it starts and where it should fall around your face. There's no way you're going to get a correct cut just by showing a picture. They see bangs, they cut what they think of as bangs, which are inevitably the crappy, wide kind.

You might also try going to salons that cater more to alternative styles/complicated dye jobs, as they're more likely to be staffed by people that are used to getting a lot of feedback.

Or go to an asian salon, like anons always suggest. If someone would like to describe how that worked out for them I would be very interested.

Sorry you got a bad cut though, anon. Lucky for you it's the season for wearing cute hats, amirite

>>9719269
The best solution for me was to cut my own bangs. Every hairdresser i've been to just couldn't get them straight. They would also never even try to listen when I explained about hime haircuts and would then just start doing their own thing because it would 'be much better for my face shape'. I've tried at least 6 different hair stylists before I said fuck it, if You're gonna give me Some crooked bullshit bangs for 50 eu I might as Well do it myself for Free at home. My bangs have never looked better.

>>9719296
I showed her a picture and explained. Honestly though, she must've just been a horrible hairdresser. My bangs weren't even straight bc she wouldn't straighten them to check unless I paid an extra $10. I'm lucky that the weird short piece mostly blends in but damn, never going back there.

>>9719284
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bOtnwgB9nh1HPKFPGY50JqtjibooeHZ6a3TCsOfAkDQ/edit#slide=id.g853f6c911_0_137 not that anon but this explains what they meant. Recommended reading for anyone struggling to get dem bangs

>>9719062
It’s also kind of embarrassing to yourself and to the lolita community to wear lolita when you’re ugly or obese or can’t dress yourself but that isn’t stopping anyone.

>>9719358
Same. I’ve even brought in pictures of white girls with a similar hair type with the exact style I want yet every hairdresser still thought they knew better and razor cut it into a bunch of jagged layers. My hair is thin and pin straight except for the last ~2cm which flips outward, so this is a really awful look on me. And then they want €60 for it. No thanks, I’ll do it myself.

I bought and paid for some stuff from Closet Child like three days ago, how long does it take for them to ship out usually?

>>9719269
Western hairstylists are literally retarded, just give up and learn to cut your own hair. I have never found a hair place at any price point that understood how to follow directions or pictures, they all want you to look like Jennifer Aniston circa 2003

>>9719361
seriously, wtf? her doing her JOB right costs 10 usd more?? seriously anon, fuck that place. Just try to learn how to cut your own bangs, trust me, it's the best way. It will take some time but it will be worth it, and you will never have some dumb ''stylist'' mess up your hair again

What happened to girly-cute.com?

>>9719442
Only 16 year old supermodels should wear the fashion. No ugly plain old normal wimminz

>>9719062
dressing like a child is a lot more embarrassing, and yet sweet lolita still exists

>>9719525
Please leave lolita fashion, you obviously have no clue what it is

>>9719511
Their twitter hasn't been updated since spring. It looks like they went out of business without making a statement??

Has anyone ever archived or re-posted old egl entries? A lot of interesting ones have already been deleted for some reason.

Hello gulls! I can finally start wearing Lolita after many years just admiring it from afar(and researching ofc), but I thought that if I wanted to go all out I would probably be overwhelmed by all the details(I'm more of a "the first jeans and hoodie that I find that don't look hideous together" gal),so I want to start swapping boring pieces of clothing for more kawaii everyday things,and work my way to full Lolita(not an everyday thing tho). Any tips on transitioning from frumpy to walking wedding cake dresses? Suggestions for what items could work for both general kawaii jfash and sweet Lolita(I was already thinking shoes,cardigans and maybe blouses)?

>>9719543
>>9719543
I would start with cutsews, cardigans and skirts. Skirts are easier to dress down than all-over printed dresses, plus they are cheaper and more likely to go on sale. You can wear lolita cutsews and cardigans with normie dresses/skirts to start with.

>>9718660
is this margret polermo?

>>9719543
It's good to think of 2-3 colours that you want in your wardrobe so you can mix and match, and maybe even stick to 2-3 brands so the items are more likely to go together. For your first main-piece, go for something solid or a normie pattern like pic related.

>>9719543
It's good to think of 2-3 colours that you want in your wardrobe so you can mix and match, and maybe even stick to 1 brand so the items are more likely to go together. For your first main-piece, go for something solid or a normie pattern like pic related.

>>9719543
Do your jeans and hoodies fit you well? Incorporating jfash is as simple as switching out a top or outer layer here and there, but if your normie basics are shambles jfash isn’t going to help fix that. People tend to look frumpy because they choose ill fitting items more than anything else.

Have anyone received invoice from innocent world for last sale?
>brought 1jsk, 1jacket, 1sock, 1 bag
>writes description "if any item have sold off, contact me if i am still interested in purchasing"
>bill comes after a week, well that was fast
>only bag and sock is in the bill... I am not interested to buy since its just waste of shipping fee
>thank you innocent world for saving my wallet

>>9719594
I did, only two bags left of my order which also 4 dresses and 1 accessory. Very disappointed, not going to buy the bags, I mainly wanted at least 1 of the dresses.

>>9719511
I'm sad that they're gone; I used to pick up so much cute girly clothing from them.

>>9718660
Omg she's still around? She used to post on daily lolita i forgot the username but i loved her.

>>9719358
This. I gave up with hairstylists and cutting my bangs the way I want. I’ve showed them so many pictures and explained, still don’t get it. One hairstylist even said “but it’s going to look weird” and I said “I guess to you it’s weird but it’s normal to me.” I cut my own bangs now. I cut them exactly how I want!

>>9719581
I actually hate how hard it is to find well-fitting clothes in normie stores. If it's something like a flared skirt where only your waist measurement needs to fit then sure, it's fine, but anything more complicated and the fit's fucking all over the place. Lolita can be unflattering too, but at least you know the exact measurements of pieces so you can figure out if it'll fit nicely much more easily than with non-descript 'S' or 'M' sizes.

>>9719386
Thank you so much for posting this! It's super helpful

>>9719386
Anyone have tips for thin bangs? Even through I blow dry and train them they never want to stay in the right spot and end up being thicker on one side of my face. If that makes sense.
I have the triangle ending on high points of my eyebrows but it still looks off.

>>9719062
I disagree. Older lolitas in gothic or classic are very inspiring to me. But that being said, older ones look shitty in sweet.

>>9718804
>far nicer website and photo quality than any of the other second-hand shops
I don't want to pay for that.

>>9719700
Some people like that. It's much easier for people that aren't Lolita(for gifts and such). Unrelated to that,is the "like this item to make it go down in price" thing useless? I want opinions

Weirdest question ever,probably: what kind of bras do you wear with lolita? I usually wear non-padded balconette/balcony bras from h&m,or sport bras(in white,no neons old) for stuff that fits just a couple cms too tight.

>>9719717
Braless because I'm a pancake

>>9719717
I have small boobs, so I typically wear flimsy lace bras with no support or go bra-less. And I don't wear bloomers because I'm a degenerate.

>>9719717
Padded because I have almost no boob after losing weight so I have to fill out the bust a little, otherwise the dress would look so baggy on me

>>9719594
I wanted a bunch of sale items and one non-sale item, but only the non-sale item is left. I’m debating on whether I still want it or not, since it costs more than all the sale items together.

>>9719559
>being this new

>>9719717
just for future reference, white shows up as much as neon stuff does. you want to go with gray or skin tone if you want an invisible bra.

>>9719717
I have no boobs but very pointy nipples so I wear a lightly padded tween bra because high beams aren't kawaii. I wear nude colored usually, and black for darker stuff.

>>9719594
I posted upthread, I only got one of my sale dresses out of 2 dresses, socks and a matching hair piece.

>>9719717
I wear a non padded underwire bra. I'm busty (28/30 E/F depending on brand) and really need the support.
(polite sage for double post because I'm incapable of reading the whole thread before replying I guess)

>>9719717
Very thin skin tone bra. I don't like sports bra because I like to wear casual lolita with a cardigan often and the straps of a sports bra are harder to conceal

Why are most of the shoes missing from lolibrary?

>>9719717
I wear nice bralettes from european brands

>>9719735
>And I don't wear bloomers because I'm a degenerate

most embarrasing behaviour desu

dont you guys feel ugly when you wear an ugly bra and no bloomers?

What's the general consensus on using altered brand imagery to make goods you then sell?
For example, these pins use the logo of AP and Baby. Back when OTT sweet was big, I remember Pastelbat making jewelry to match Toy Fantasy.

Wouldn't this be illegal? I feel like it's tacky.

>>9719813
I think that those count as parodies so they're not illegal. Whether it's tacky or not depends on personal taste, I guess.

>>9719815
So if I wanted to make a pin of Usakumya peeing on an AP label would that count as parody too?

My mum damaged one of my dresses just now. The damage is in the middle of the print. It was 450 euro. I can't ask her for any money so I just sit here and cry internally.

>>9719819
Probably, yes. It's like pic related, also a parody.

>>9719717
Push up because I have breast envy and sensitive to having no boobs. I wear Victoria's Secret or Aerie. Sometimes I wear my Dita Von Teese lingerie set when it matches my dress.

>>9719820
That's awful anon, I ruined a print skirt once, but nothing worth that much. Is it in a spot where you could wear an apron over it?

>>9719820
Tear,stain?

>>9719853
Burned

>>9719851
That's a good idea, though it'd hide the print

How do you make sure you're not buying a replica from taobao or aliexpress? I've accidentally bought an ahcahcum.muchacha bag and putumayo replica before, and I feel especially bad now that putumayo has closed down.

>>9719864
Assume everything is a replica?

>>9719717
I also wear padded bras. I'm an A-cup, so it's definitely needed if I want to fill out the dress.

I feel like a sportsbra would be a terrible solution and would only contribute to the monoboob situation. If the dress is too tight, getting it altered would be the best solution imo.

>>9719665
I don't know what I'm going to do, I don't like classic or gothic and I am now 30.

there's someone selling Melty Ribbon Chocolate in my preferred colorway on LM, but i've noticed NO ONE had bid on it twice. I didn't place bids because I would forget to, but this is starting to raise suspicions for me. I've seen auctions go stupidly high for this dress, so am I missing something?

>>9719895
Just wear what you like, people are going to judge you regardless. Live your life.

>>9719903
its real expensive

>>9719820
How'd she ruin it and why?

>>9719819
Yes, parody law is a beautiful thing.
https://youtu.be/Y4KrdjAPohc

>>9719895
30 isn't even old, anon. If you can still pull of sweet, go for it. I know plenty of girls who can and do.

>>9719913
yes, but i've seen other auctions go equally if not more higher.
i just thought it was odd that no one tried to bid.

>>9719650
>I said “I guess to you it’s weird but it’s normal to me"
I want to know what happened after you said this.

>>9719941
Most people think it's too high. I've seen it cheaper and it's the harder to coord bitter colorway.

>>9719820
What dress?

>>9719895
A lot of 30 year olds still look fine in sweet. Just make sure to wear a lot of sunscreen and save up money for skin tightening procedures in your forties and beyond and you can wear sweet for the rest of your life.

>>9719938
Wow, I thought it was going to be informative, instead it was a stupid click bait video.

>>9719820
im so sorry anon :(

>>9719895
Sweet till you fucking die. We're supposed to look outlandish, that's what makes it alt fashion

>>9719864
Everything on TB or Ali is a fake

>>9719717
I hate bras, so I wear cute bralettes without padding or wires instead. I'm very small-chested, so I don't need any support, and it suits the ideal lolita silhouette better.

>>9719813
You just mad you didn’t do it first?

>>9719830
Where can I get this?!

>>9719813
I think they're tacky as fuck. Epically when normies who don't get the reference see it and will makes more assumptions about lolita.

Can someone help ID this dress?

>>9720179
JetJ's Carp Sherique
https://juliette-et-justine.com/products/detail.php?product_id=1116

>>9719895
Misako Aoki is 34, anon. Don't let age stop you.

>>9719717
I'm not busty, so "T-shirt" (no padding) full or Demi coverage bras from Aerie for me.

>>9720182
Thank you so much!

>>9720082
http://mindfulmerry.storenvy.com/products/21588578-chestburster-lolita-enamel-pin

>>9720110
People read pins?

>>9720110
>>9720245
I think anon puts too much importance into what strangers notice or care about. I highly doubt people on the street are going to care to look at a tiny enamel pin and judge you because of it; if you're wearing lolita they'll likely notice all the frills first.

>>9719269
Try and hide the mistake until it grows out if you can and go to anext asian hairdresser if you can find one. Honestly the best hair decision I ever made was switching to a Japanese salon, I have the sweetest bangs and the neatest little bob cut now.

While we’re kinda still on the hime cut topic...

That google doc is super useful for bangs but it isn’t really specific about where the long piece should come from. Is there just an inch on either side of the triangle all the way down that’s cut to the longer length, or is it more complicated than that?

>>9720256
>tfw no Asian hair salons in my country
I’m so jelly of the people who can just go to Japanese stores or salons in their own city. The population of East Asian people in my country is so low that even the Asian culture festivals are organised by white weaboos.

>>9719660
Product. I hairspray mine while they're cooling on the round brush I blow dry them over.

When I first got into lolita, there was this really nice blog post talking about different way to color match for lolita coord. Like you can color coord with 2 colors with 50% of each color, or 30%/70%. The post also talks about picking complementary colors vs colors opposites on the color wheel. It has example pics as well.

It was one of the most helpful thing I've ever read but it has been 3 or 4 years now and I don't remember where I saw it. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

>>9720395
This sounds so fucking autistic. If you want to wear all black and wear just a couple burgundy rose accents here and there like AATP does, that should be fine. It's not "shoehorning," it's just adding an accent. Or if you want to wear pastel vomit and have everything be a different pastel color, I've seen that done well, too. Color balance only looks bad when done really, really wrong. Like if you put all one color up top and then another color on the bottom

>>9719813
What's up with the store? Can you still buy these?

>>9720405
A lot of people who get into lolita have no prior knowledge or understanding of fashion. This kind of thing can be useful if you have no idea what to do, since it gives you a more solid understanding of how to coordinate.

>>9720395
I also remember one of the really good coord example was of xylia_x wearing a blue bodyline dress with bordeaux s a second color. I really want to find this blog to read and it would be great if someone knows which blog this is.

>>9720433

>>9719717
Enough to cover nipples on the flat chest.

>>9719717
I have a 91 cm bust and wear a DDD cup. I wear a thin lace bra with an underwire and no padding. I've yet to find a minimizer that fits me in the band size so if anyone knows of some that run smaller feel free to make a recommendation.

>>9719269
I had my hair done last by a girl at a fancy upscale salon a little more than a year ago. Although the dye job was great, she just didn't get the bangs right, even though I showed her the doc and we talked about it over coffee. Nowadays I just cut my own bangs with shears from Sally's. Sometimes I fuck up the length and give myself Tumblr bangs but they grow out in a week or two. Practice makes perfect I guess.

>>9720185
She is Asian, they age better. She looks better than most white girls around the same age.

>>9720459
Sorry if this is too personal,but what is your underbust measurement? 91 cm bust and a DDD make me think you are really petite

>>9719653
I agree that it's difficult to find items that are a good fit in normie stores, especially if you fall outside of the average ranges that S/M/L/XL are supposed to cover. However, this goes back to what >>9720431 said about a lot of lolitas not having a foundational understanding of fashion in general. Just because lolita provides more measurements doesn't mean that a given dress will look good on someone within those measurements because it'll depend on their proportions more than anything else. The fact that people expect to suddenly understand this with more complicated pieces like lolita dresses when they can't grasp this with absolute normie basics is why things turn out frumpy or poorly fitted.

>>9719941
It's $200 above the average rate that it goes for, beret or not. The demand for it has probably dropped off versus a year or two ago as well.

>>9720229
Thanks anon!

>>9720425
Store is on vacay

>>9720536
White girls look 30 by the time they're 18.

>>9720581
Any info on when she'll be back? I need to get my hands on the AP one

How much is it okay to spend on a bag?
How much on a matching wallet?

I'm trying to find reasons to not spend much money on particular items, but at the same time, the more I think about them, the closer they are to making it to my dream list.

>>9720597
sorry you didn't take care of your skin anon :^)

>>9719903
>>9719941
>mrc preferred colorway

Anon I'm thinking of selling it nwt in M if you're interested, drop your email.

>>9720597
I feel like at least part of this is because tons of basic white bitches are super picky eaters and/or always eat like shit (pixielocks/Jillian I'm looking at you with your tendie fueled JP trip and constant defiling of tea with peeps). Combined with the lack of decent skincare and/or complete lack of sun protection, what do you get? Premature aging that's what. Plus lots of white girls my age have a penchant for drinking entire bottles of wine nightly.

>>9720603
I think it depends highly on it's quality and your budget.

>>9720603
This is an entirely personal thing imo. You can argue that pleather bags aren't worth hefty price tags and it's probably true but if you love the design enough to be willing to drop the cash for it, then that's your decision to make, you know?

>>9720620
red wine is good for you and it's good for the gothic lolita aesthetic

>>9720536
Shelby Cloud is over 30? and Mint Kismet is close to it. While not a lolita, Dita von Teese is like 43.

>>9720395
>complimentary colors vs color opposites on the color wheel
Literally the same thing

>>9720632
>red wine is good for you
In moderation. And getting wine drunk isn't kawaii for anyone.

>>9720536
I think she just took care of herself and her skin better because skincare's almost cultish in most Asian countries. I'd bet that a lot of white girls in pro-skincare European countries probably look younger than their sun-worshipping counterparts as well.

>>9720668
You clearly don’t go out much. Drunk Lolita times are the best of them.

>>9720699
Mte, I'm actually cuter when I'm drunk

>>9720699
>>9720713
Enjoy your premature aging, then.

>>9720657
Those are good examples. I also just found Gwen Stefani is almost 50, and she looks amazing.

>>9720752
She's also filthy fuckin rich boo

>>9719717
bralets to be comfy and because i'm a flatlet with B cups. That or a cute "normal" bra to feel extra cute. Sometimes with matching panties!
I do happen to wear some padded bras to make it look like I got boobs sometimes though because I'm complexed about it. I always go for white,soft colours and lace,ribbons or even prints (little dots and stripes) sometimes.

>>9720308
I'm wondering this too

>>9719717

Push up bras to fill out MM's bizarre measurements, and my regular not wired bras for everything else, including IW which can't really fit boobs.

>>9719274
SAME. Luckily, I was able to do a nice triangle on my own and I look nice without side pieces. Bitch and a half to keep all the ugly shaggy bits pinned back as they grow out, though.

>>9720308
>>9720819
That's basically it. I sketched over a pic for you, hope this helps.

Misty Sky reservations are starting to be sent out. Who here is waiting on one?

>>9718660
Is there any info on her? I love her style I'd love to see more.

>>9720843
I am! I ordered the black JSK and hair clip through the Japanese online shop. I can't wait to get my update from Tenso.

>>9720395
I swear that I know the exact post you're talking about, but I can't for the life of me find it. Is it the psot where there is a color wheel made up of scarves?

>>9720620
And tanning a lot.

Mercartor is being rereleased this Saturday!

>>9720856
Yeah I think so! I've been trying to find lolita blogs to read, and I was hoping to dig that one up again. I've been trying to find it for a while and couldn't find it. If you couldn't find it either it might have been deleted. Thanks!

>>9720768
So is Dita? They both still look great. Lots of celebs who are richer look awful.

>>9720843
I ordered a skirt but haven't heard anything yet. I'm so excited!

>>9720620
>defiling of tea with peeps

???? why

>>9720844
What sort of info are you looking for? Just search for her username arsenicold_lace on egl or daily_lolita and you'll find her posts.

>>9720871
Huh. Is it really popular enough to warrant a rerelease? I thought it was a rather forgettable print.

>>9720543
I'm not, really. I'm sitting at 70cm underbust. I'm 165cm tall.

>>9720871
why? I barely see this dress worn.

>>9720871
and not in the cut that I want. So close yet so far.

>>9720909
>>9720925

It sold slowly from the webstore, but the secondhand prices aren't all that cheap, at one point I was able to find Milky Cross for 10k-15k yen but Mercator was still 20k yen and up (and getting snapped up at that price still) The dress is not exactly the easiest nor the commonest dress you can find secondhand, either.

I mean, it's not HL or Misty Sky or MCD level popular -- but then AP already did MTOs for all of those. I can see why they'd look at old Mercator selling consistently around the 20k+ yen mark and try to get in on the action.

I kind of want the green, but I'm not really feeling the blue x green colour scheme.

>>9720904
What are peeps?

>>9720993
Sweet treat, often in the shape of a small bird, bunny, or snowman.

>>9720657
They look good but look their ages, I think Misako looks younger than them. >>9720620
Part of it is diet, skin care, etc. The biggest factor is genetics, Asians have thicker skin and thicker skin age better. Most white people have thinner skin, thin skin doesn't age as well as thick skin.

Why are the old LJ mods so drama-hungry?

>>9720752
she had a ton of plastic surgery though, look at her face in motion, it will reveal the truth, anon-san

>>9720994
How big are these? And if you're going to dunk a glob of pure sugar and food colouring into your tea then why drink tea in the first place? I can't imagine that tasting good at all with any kind of tea.
Is this really a common thing in 'Murrica? I don't want to believe.

>>9721051
it's not common, i promise. she's just especially gross. and people like that wonder why they can't lose weight...

>>9721051
Pixielocks is Canadian

>>9721089
Canada is in North America.

>>9721066
Oh thank goodness.

>>9721089
B-but I thought Canadians only used maple syrup in their tea!

>>9719813
I always thought those pins in particular were so stupid because "brand whoring" actually has negative connotations; being unjustifiably stuck up to even well-made offbrand or any brands not approved of, whiteknighting a favorite brand constantly.
It has never meant "I love brand!" And it seems newer lolitas really don't get it. They see something kinda edgy in pin form and think it's cute.

Also any normies looking at those would think you legitimately sell yourself for clothes and are proud, which isn't too farfetched given the current sugarbaby boom in sex work.

>>9721117
It's suppose to be ironic to call yourself "brandwhore"

>>9719717
Bit late to the party on this topic... but as a regular sized person with a big bust I wear a pushup bra with a tight sports crop top (almost a binder) over the bra. It's obviously not super comfy, but really helps with fit and boobloaf reduction, especially with dresses that have no room in the bust (eg IW). In short, squish up, not down = boobloaf b gone.

There's something oddly satisfying about listening to hard rock and metal while wearing sweet or classic lolita

What are some good ways to fix color bleed? I just hand-washed a new Metamorphose dress, and I ended up with some minor patches of navy bleed on the dress. Pic related.

>>9721122
Its even better when people wear these, while the only brand they're wearing is their main piece. Like come on, if you gonna call yourself a brand whore at least wear brand.

>>9721136
uh oh.. try soaking it in oxyclean

>>9721117
dude chill it’s a joke it’s no different than people saying “i’m a slut for pink” or i’m a “starbucks whore” no one really thinks you ARE one. well, only people who don’t know how to understand a joke.

>>9720843
waiting for a navy jsk and hairclip, i'm really excited!

>>9721097
Don’t be hate, maple syrup is damn good in tea.

t. husbando makes maple syrup

>>9721117
>what is a joke
Self-deprecating humor gets you far in life, anon. You should try it sometime.

when will they stop using those shiny ribbons for fuck's sake

>>9721319
The top half is so nice, bottom half... not so nice..

>>9721323
The top half is the worst part

>>9721319
This looks like To Alice, what the hell?

>>9721319
I think the shiny=bad meme needs to die because it looks ok sometimes.

>>9721329
Agree

>>9721329
Can you give me an example of where it looks better than if it wasn't shiny?

>>9721319
The only thing wrong with this is that the top looks a little too big in room compared to a lot of AP's other stuff, which usually sticks pretty close to the mannequin.

I actually like this a bit. It's a different take to the sweet sailor style, and hopefully we'll get the classic red/blue/white color scheme as well.

Agree with >>9721329 on the shiny=bad meme. That's sprouted from people not at all knowing what they're talking about.

>>9721341
I like this dress a lot and it looks shiny in photos but its fine because silk is meant to have that effect.

>>9721348
Okay but I was talking about the gift wrap-tier ribbons

>>9721341
Another fantastic example

>>9721351
That one would look better without shiny ribbon too

>>9721349
A lot of AP dresses I have come with ribbons like that.
Idk you seem like you just don't care for the dress. Shiny isn't always horrific tho.

>>9721356
The entire over lay of the dress is shiny.

>>9721357
I love sailor and I would have bought it in white if I didn't dislike shiny ribbons so much

>>9721356
Stop acting like you know anything related to sewing and dress making. Having a dress with a fabric ribbon while it has a shiny overlay would look ugly and out of place.

>>9721365
I don't know anything about that, I just hate how shiny ribbons look on clothes? Why are y'all defending it so hard?

>>9721351
The soft shine adds texture and depth.

Imo, I wish we would see more lustrous fabrics. Velvet has always been around, an embracing chiffon has been nice, but varied finishes and textures make solid pieces so much more interesting.

So, net neutrality has been repealed. How do you think this will effect the american lolita community?

>>9721369
>>9721356
misfired

>>9721351
To be honest I’ve always thought this dress looked like a (very well made) Halloween costume. I don’t get the appeal.

>>9721372
literally nothing is going to happen stop fear mongering...

>>9721372
Buy all your burando now, because we won't be able to buy anything.

>>9721372
All lolita content will be blocked and reported because it's pedophilia. Evil Chinese competitor taobao will be slowed down significantly.

>>9721377
that’s not true, telecomms companies have already tried throttling specific services but were stopped by net neutrality rules (see t-mobile). not much to do with lolita tho (unless you really enjoy youtubers)

>>9721386
you forget that 99% of lolita shopping is online. RIP all those small lolita businesses

>>9721411
Solid point, fml. Hopefully most of the fighting will be between major competitors (Google restricting Amazon access, etc). But it’s always possible retailers will get hit. Guess I should buy a big haul and pretend it’s in the name of political dissent lol

>>9721372
America isn't the whole world, if I remember correctly, net neutrality in Europe is alive and well. How could you fuck up this badly?

>>9721422
>how can you fuck up this badly
have you seen how our country runs? happy for y’all tho. enjoy that sweet unrestricted access

>>9721422
>How do you think this will effect the american lolita community?
>the american lolita community
>american
Nobody's asking about europe

>>9721422
Another thing to remind myself of next time customs charges kick my ass.

>>9721136
Was thinking of picking up this JSK since I'm buying something else from Meta, not so much now, glad I saw this. Did you wash it in hot or cold? Definetly not getting it if it bleeds even in cold...

I wish you luck fixing it anon!

Does anyone remember a somewhat older (I can't remember how long ago or anything but it was probably before 2010?? my sense of time is terrible) picture of a girl in b/w lolita... she had a heart apron on iirc, and was wearing an eyepatch?? I think. She was outside and the image, at least the one I remember, was fairly small and not the best of quality but had a certain special charm. Ugh. I know this is a shot in the dark but I thought I had it saved and I can't find it anymore. Anything helps.

>>9721464
This one? It's one of my absolute favourite coords/pictures!

>>9721473
YES OMG thank you anon!!! It's one of my favorites as well and I just saw a similar heart apron skirt sell on LM and it brought back memories. Thank you again!

>>9721464
You mean this from LM? I think it is the same in that picture of the girl wearing it. A bit hard to tell because the image isn't the best, but it looks very similar.

I'm sad, I was thinking of grabbing that heart apron skirt but it sold before I could decide. I hope it goes to a lovely home.

>>9721482
>>9721473
What brand is this I love it ;_;

>>9721483
the lacemarket listing says cornet

>>9721482
I'm kind of heartbroken I didn't see this for sale now

>>9721482
FUCK I MISSED IT! This has been a dream of mine for so long, I never see it up. FUCK.

>>9721132
I get this feeling with J-rock, though it might not be completely in the same line as what you're getting at.

>>9721460
I've never had problems with meta and I own a ton of it. Mostly older but some newer releases. All of it is better made than AP and Baby, both of whom have released prints that ran

I asked in an older thread if it would be safe to wash magical etoile red. Someone suggested testing it with a baby wipe or something. I have and some faint pink rubbed off, but not much. Would it be safe to hand wash? Maybe with vinegar or something. Should I try with a waist tie first just to see?

>>9720871
God I love this dress so much but I only want the black colorway. Dammit AP.

I have been searching in the archives with no results so I thought I would ask here: do I remember wrong there were drawn pics of lolita being spanked by other lolita posted once? Iirc they were gothic and sweet. I just wanted to see it again spontanously.

>>9721598
The answer is no. It will bleed anon. And it will fade the dress quite a bit.

>>9721460
I definitely used cold water, I'm thinking the soap I used was too harsh (looking back at some old archive threads says that Woolite is rough on dresses.) Fortunately there's very little color bleed, so I'm thinking some spot treatment with oxyclean will be my first course of action. Hope it works!

>>9721473
Who is this girl? Does anyone know when this image was posted? was it on LJ? I kinda want to know more about her. This coord is precious and definitely reminds me of the older days of lolita. Oh how I miss thee.

funny story, I discovered lolita back in 2002 but was way too fat for any of it, so the most I ever got into it was admiring the stuff on meta's site. I lost 150 lbs and can wear lolita now, but almost all of my wardrobe is 2nd hand brand now because I'm an oldschoolfag thanks to my being unable to experience lolita when I first discovered it. Happy to be able to fit into it, regardless.

>>9721598
Wash it with a "color catcher" sheet (it's a product you can buy in the laundry cleaning section) , but only if you don't mind fading the dress. Otherwise dry clean only

>>9721673
>>9721628
I’ve actually just hand washed one of the waist ties in water to test. It has come out fine and is drying, I don’t know if there is going to be a problem during the drying process.
I’m quite happy with it though, I am allergic to dry cleaning fluid stuff so that isn’t an option for me. If it fades a bit that is ok, everything fades over time.

>>9721686
No, polyester holds dye quite well, while cotton loses dye when washed. Others have had poor experiences with AP red including me. It even says a user had problems with your same dress on lolibrary. But do what you like, it's your dress.

>>9720599
No, sorry

>>9721598
I washed the original release and it was fine

I stumbled upon Uesaka Sumire and though I'm not totally into her music, I wonder if anyone here is. I only see one of my lolita friends who like her fb page and I'm a bit surprised that she's not more popular because she wears lolita pretty well.

I really want to read Misako and Uesaka's interview on Izanau, but it's 404'd. It's a long shot, but I want to know if anyone happens to have it archived because the description sounds cute and the Asianbeat interview is comparatively short.

>>9721812
Wow I’ve never seen Misako with eye bags like that. I guess she is mortal after all...

>>9721348
that's a poly taffeta and not actual silk
silk is a fibre, not a weave
the cost of an ap dress made with actual silk would be insane

>>9721812
It’s not that good of an interview, just asking the most basic stuff. But the reason not many like her might be in that post. Sumipe said she envies how Misako always looks so good because she herself doesn’t have time to put effort in her coords. This is why her hair is usually basic, petticoat it missing sometimes and over all she never wears lolita OTT. It’s understandable for a high-end seiyuu but western people wont find her as a lolita that interesting cause there’s no dreamy coords to goal over.

Also SJWs don’t like her Russia appropriation.

Dont know where to ask, but I'd really like to bid on something on LM however the seller seems possibly not interested in shipping overseas? No where does it outright say that however the price for overseas shipping is $0. Its probably HIGHLY likely i'm reading into this too far, but there's still part of me that's worried. I sent them a message a few days back and it hasn't been read, and the auction is ending soon.

Should i just bid anyway and assume she's okay with international shipping?

Excentrique will be closing down:

https://blog-excentrique.tumblr.com/post/168562800315/%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E8%A7%A3%E6%95%A3%E3%81%AE%E3%81%94%E6%8C%A8%E6%8B%B6%E3%81%A8%E3%83%95%E3%82%A7%E3%82%A2%E3%82%A6%E3%82%A7%E3%83%AB%E3%82%BB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%81%AE%E3%81%8A%E7%9F%A5%E3%82%89%E3%81%9B

>>9721972
What? No no no no no.

>>9721972
Friendly reminder to let your money do the talking and support your favorite brands if you want them to stay in business.

>>9719358
Most hair dressers have almost no education, it's a very chav/white trash kind of occupation.

>>9719559
morgrot wouldn't be able to put an outfit like that together to save her life. This is kind of boring, but it's a lot better than pic related. The old hag just wants to wear her daughter's skin.

>>9721972
It's because the director is retiring.

>>9721966
I wouldn't bid on it, but wait for her to respond. Hopefully she'll see the message when she goes to relist.

>>9721132
>>9721584
It's so normal for lolitas to listen to that

>>9721858
>Also SJWs don’t like her Russia appropriation.
Source? The SJW clique in my comm wouldn't give a shit. A lot of lolitas just don't know about her and don't care.

>>9721972
Noooooooooo why isn't someone taking over
I want to cry but I can't because I'm at work

This was tweeted by Triple Fortune back in mid-November, but I feel we haven't talked about this?

Source: https://twitter.com/triple4tune/status/931889316862705664

This was tweeted back in mid-November but I feel we haven't talked about this yet? Is GLB coming back?

Source: https://twitter.com/triple4tune/status/931889316862705664

>>9721972
jesus christ. I didn’t care too much about putumayo since their style was soooo out of date, and while swimmer was sad I could deal, but this? this sucks ass.

>>9722093
I don't know how this wasn't widely broadcasted but I hope it's true!

>>9722093
I think it just means there will be a "GLB" snap at this event which they'll post online

>>9722116
AP is doing a MTO of Jewelery Snow for anyone who missed it.

AP is doing a MTO of Jewelery Snow for anyone who missed it.

Not to be stupid, but is Excentriques store completely empty?

>>9722133
They probably took everything down to prepare for the closing sale.

Has anyone here ever purchased one of Wunderwelt’s large item lots on Lace Market? I was wondering if they’re worth it after paying shipping because the listings always say the items are damaged. Is Wunderwelt’s standard of ‘damaged’ high or would it be a bunch of unwearable clothing?

>>9722133
Yeah, I get the same thing.

>>9722133
Spoiler: they have a couple of amazing prints, corsets that look great but aren't functional, some solid sailor stuff, but most of all they have shapeless oversized sack dresses. Trust me, they are bigger than they look on the picture. I could fit my biggest petticoat under pic related.

>>9722145
WW’s standard for damage is lower than CC’s. It’s probably going to be damage or stains along the lines of the other pieces they’re selling on LM. I know a girl who bought a bunch of socks that way and they all either had pilling or discoloration around the toe area.
Personally I’ve only had good experience with buying from WW’s site directly but I’m hesitant about anything listed on their LM account.

>>9722069
I hope the designers of Excentrique pull a Sheglit and make their own brand.

>>9722154
I really hope so. Excentrique is my favorite brand and no one makes corsets like them.

>>9722148
That’s what I feared, plus the lot I’m looking at has no detailed description besides the photos. I think I’ll pass unless I feel reckless

>>9722145
I buy them all the time and they've always been worth it for me. Most damages are stains, but a fair number of the stains come out in the wash. only seen a couple of items that were truley unwearable in all my lot buying.

worth it imo

>>9722145
I’ve never bought an item lot, but I’ve bought a meta OP for $35 and the damage was as described: some pilling, stretched elastic and a missing detachable bow. For me, it was worth it since all it took was new elastic and a razor to fix (I didn’t care about the bow), but I’m sure it’s up to your personal standards and skill at damage fixing.

>>9722145
I've bought from both their website and LM.
The items from the website are in better shape.
The ones on LM usually have a bit more stains/damages than they photograph, but most of them come out pretty easily with some care.

If you don't mind doing some restoration work or gambling, the LM is quite worth it.

Example : WW LM lists an item with flaws described as such "Overall signs of use, overall discoloration, stained."

What I got was a very wrinkled, largely stained, and had undisclosed damages (the neckties and corset lacing were cut off).

I just steamed the wrinkles out, gave it a good handwash with my preferred detergent, sewed on new neckties, and bought new ribbon for the corset lacing.

Was it worth it for a brand jsk US$45 shipped? You decide.

>>9722133
If you checked the tumblr link posted by >>9721972, it says that the site is down for maintenance

>>9722038
I didn't think he/she would be so old

>>9722154
Do you know the name of their designer(s)?

>>9722145
I got one of the Plus sized blouse packs and the “stains” just came off after sitting in a soak bucket for an hour. One had a tiny rip and there was once some mild discolouration, but other than that I got 4 perfectly usable blouses, a pin and a brand tote for the price of one new brand blouse (incl shipping). Very worth it.
>>9721703
Update: the waist tie has come out better than fine. I bought the dress secondhand and it had a strange “dark” layer to the print that made the dress look quite dingy and at first I thought it was a replica. But handwashing it, very little colour came out and it’s now the red I expected it to be.

Is it possible that it has been dry cleaned before, and this picked up some of the excess dye or something? So I can hand wash it safer now? I still plan for the first few times to wash it in segments to protect the print.

>>9722062
Sorry, forgot to mention 4 other people have bid on it. I'd reallllyyy like it for a coord, auction ends in a couple of hours

>>9722062
>>9722508
Okay update: As soon as i bid, and the page refreshed the bid was instantly topped by another user by just one dollar. I bid again, and their name and bid with a dollar more than my bid was there. Is this a bot? Is this illegal?

>>9722525
No, the person just placed a higher bid than you. It’s the same as ebay. If you bid $50 and the other bids $70, it will not go to $70 but it will go to $51. If the next person comes in and bids $60. It will go up until it reaches $61. Until there comes someone who is willing to pay $80 for it, then it goes up to $71.
It’s a system in which you will never know the max of your competitor, it should be a bit more convenient than just bidding each other up with $1 each time.

>>9722545
that's stupid, I didn't know LM was like that

>>9722548

Do you not understand how internet auctions work?

>>9722557
Do you think all internet auctions work like that?

>>9722548
Well just to warn you, most auction sites are like that: Yahoo Auction, Ebay, MBok, etc.
It’s a very convenient system. You think about how much a certain item is worth to you, you bid that ammount and you either lose because someone is willing to pay more, or you win and pay less for it than your max bid.

>>9722562
The biggest auction website in my country, which is owned by ebay, does not work like that and for the others I use a SS so I never cared

I want to wash my Cinema Doll JSK but I'm afraid of the color running. Has anyone ever washed the ivory colorway, or should I bring it in to the dry cleaners?

>>9722559
All the ones worth using do

>>9721351
I have this dress in my wardrobe, and I can attest that it looks gorgeous irl. Against the matte chiffon the texture fabric really brings light, and it doesn't feel cheap at all.

>>9722612
no

>>9722564
>>9722559
And which service is this exactly? I’ve never heard of one that works differently, now I’m curious. That’s how eBay has worked since the dawn of time.

>>9722666
marktplaats, a superior version of ebay

Does anyone else feel like ScarfingScarves was trying to get a hate train going on CathyCat but no one really cares so its hilarious and sad?

>>9722675
>superior
Sorry, but that feature that you prefer sounds way more inconvenient and annoying.

>>9722617
I know! I saw someone wearing it recently at a meet. Flippin gorgeous.

>>9721362
You can take them off. I discard stuff all the time.

>>9722675
What do you get from there?

>>9722690
>>9722696
more money for your auctions

>>9722677
Here's the vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnm5ZrfEWlw

It's less about CathyCat. It's more about John. CathyCat wants to ride on John's dick. I hope Kelly Eden follows suit and rides on John's dick too.

>>9719062
I'm 50 and I'm wearing lolita right now. Your tears are delicious and salty.

>>9720603
What anime is this from?

>>9722710
God bless ScarfingScarves; I appreciate what she does and how she's recently been showing others how shit some people are.

>>9722753
Sakigake!! Kuromati Koukou.

>>9721136
I work with dyes and textiles-- you need a bottle of synthrapol. Joann's carries tiny overpriced bottles or you can order from Dharma Trading online. Get the "Dharma Textile Detergent" it's cheaper and more effective. Basically, it's a textile house detergent that is really good at removing loose dye particles. You may want to follow with a few drops of a nice leave in fabric softener-- stuff marketed for lingerie is perfect. I like Soak.

>>9722723
That's fine, as long as you aren't wearing sweet.

Victorian Maiden's webshop got an update!

>>9722266
I'm glad wunderwelt lets me check out with amazon pay. With closetchild I have to re-input CC info every single time, and with maidenclothing it's even more complicated. As a rule, I don't buy from LM or individuals overseas, too risky. Legit businesses are more conscientious about checking for damage, more objective. On LM you sometime have individuals who think period stains, pit stains, and yellowed sock soles make an item "good as new", no thanks, not paying for your hoarder tendencies or other mental illnesses that make lack of hygiene seem a-okay.

>>9722772
Bless you anon.

>>9722677
No? I fucking love her for speaking up about pedo creepers like you trying to infiltrate our communities, you bald-ass freak. Or are you his wife? Or CathyCat? That's even more pathetic. Selling out literal kids in our subculture to get your greedy hands on those profits.

help me out gulls, i have a very small room and my lolita collection has gotten too big to hang on my door (no space in closet anymore, have like 30 dresses hanging on the door)
should i use space bags? my room is tiny, i'm a bit worried if theyll wrinkle up too badly. if anyone has used them before and can give give some advice that would be great.

>>9719645
Arsenic old lace

Mary Alice is the OG and I'll fight anyone who says a bad word about her

>>9722635
I'm sorry you have such a shitty auction service

>>9723014
what the fuck kinds of dresses are you buying that you can hang 30 on your door?
you can fold most dresses up nicely, put them in boxed and just steam them out when you want to wear them

>>9722723
I love you.

Does anyone have a link to the video where a girl group goes to Angelic Pretty, and takes part in a coordinate contest? The girl who wins is wearing a Royal Cards OP.

>>9723021
Pic 4 u, I have multiple dresses on one hanger, it's gotten a bit excessive haha
I don't have room for that many boxes..

>>9723014
I have a tiny room and use underbed storage boxes. Fold up your off-season stuff and put it in them.

>>9722675
Marktplaats is aweful!
Not a lot of sites use a bidding system like that and that probably has a reason. It fits the Netherlands though...

>>9723043
You should stop buying so much, have you even worn half of this?
Purge your clothing, including normie stuff, and like the other anon said look for under the bed storage.

New thread. Don't make two again gulls.
>>9723114

>>9723014
I have used space bags for my dresses when moving and they held up pretty well. If anything, its just fabric so ironing out the wrinkles isnt the end of the world.

>>9720308
i parted mine from in front of my ear right up to my part line, that way if i have a headband on its still covered by the length of my hair. mines a little thinner than the traditional hime but the pieces are also longer because i curl them rather than the blunt cheekbone kind. use a rat tail comb to part it out its not hard.

>>9723043
my door also looks like this i feel your pain. i packed half my clothes away in a suitcase in the bottom of the closet too.