/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Get off our board. Sage so this thread dies ASAP.

>>9721163
Besides number 2 and 9, everything is pretty reasonable to expect from someone out of college/trade school

Polite sage

>>9721163
lol what? #10 doesn't make any sense after #1-9

>>9721163
My boyfriend loves lolita. He's literally the most supportive boyfriend I could have imagined. He listens to me sperg out about prints, brands, drama, new releases, etc etc. He even gets into it himself sometimes, which is amusing (he doesn't actively engage, just lurks and then tells me funny shit).

He gives me a monthly budget/allowance to spend on lolita and my other collection hobby. I don't work because I'm too much of an aspie to hold a job, but I keep our house spotlessly clean and am a great cook, so I think we have a fair trade off deal going on.

>>9721201
I agree. I don't want a guy to pay for my food or anything in my life, but I need him to be able to pay his half when we're doing things together. A lot of my favorite things to do, favorite restaurants to eat at, etc. are a bit pricey. I'm not going to deal with some guy making $12.50 an hour guilt tripping me because he's poor.

This thread again?

>>9721163
Literally nothing wrong with any of that

>>9721396
Aspie here you're living the dream i'm jelly.
I suck at cooking but I clean fairly well. I would try harder at cooking if I had a waifu though.
I'm old fashioned but the thought of welcoming my wife home in a cute apron makes me smile

>>9721163
i think this is reasonable, as long as all of it is mutual between 2 people.

>>9721163
>money isn't a dealbreaker
>90% of that list is "give me pampies hubby"

you're all delusional

>>9721163
as the boyfriend I can honestly say I support it, I come on here from time to time to send pictures of dresses I think she'll like or threads I think she'll want to read, as long as she doesnt go too far I'll support her hobby

>>9721396
>>9721678
Where do I get my aspie happy-to-keep-a-good-home wife

This is a shell of the previous thread before it was nuked

>>9721405
>A lot of my favorite things to do, favorite restaurants to eat at,

Oh you are one of those types of girls........................................................................

>>9724340
They just said they don't want anybody paying for their food. Are you incapable of sentence comprehension? They can pay for themselves on a date; It's called going dutch on a date.

>Oh, you are one of those types of girls...
What type? The type that pays for their own part on a date? Oh, cry some more.

Off board person here with serious question.
What is the reason almost all girls care about fashion and being a model? Even succesful women are also amateur models on the side and I don't really get why. What makes fashion more interesting, than I don't know, pole dancing, beach volleyball or whatever else slutty thing you can think of?

>>9724340
The type that leaves their house?

>>9726105
The things you listed require skill or time and dedication. Fashion just requires a little research and how to use camera angles.

>>9726105
Idk and idc about modelling but fashion is another fun form of self expression for me. Why immediately equate modelling or fashion to "slutty" things? What's slutty about wearing clothes?

>>9726204
Well it's not slutty, but it seems to revolve around girls being a perfect good looking princess and getting attention. So the things I listed are other things that could get a girl attention for looking attractive.

>>9726105
Modeling as a career choice is a tough soul breaking industry to get into and you have to deal with a lot of disrespect. I can understand some girls doing small modeling gigs for a friend or small bussiness or just cosplay.
I don't know any women who think about modeling seriously and those who do have done it maybe once or twice as a small gig.

>>9726227
I think if you take photos of yourself it's more like archiving what you looked like when you were younger.
Looks are fleeting, I'll never look like this again. When people take photos they take them for themselves, I want to see what I looked like when I was young and dressy when I'm an old hag unable to walk well anymore. Photos are taken as mementos more than anything.

>>9726227
>getting attention
Alt fashion does attract attention whether we want it or not, but girls who are into jfash solely for the attention eventually drop it because they don't really care for it. It takes dedication and most people who are looking for attention aren't very dedicated at all, meanwhile the girls who are into it as self expression will often tell you they don't care for or even dislike the attention they get just for wearing shit they think is cute.
See also >>9709690

>>9726238
Well sure, but even "jfash" is a form of fashion. It's related to clothing. Like everything else in the world, clothing has multiple layers of interesting depth to it, and I understand people are into it. I just don't understand so many people being into it over making music, sports, clayworks, being a movie-nut, programming, whatever else you can think of. Some old guy once told me women don't generally have the drive for doing intellectually interesting things, which looks true in a lot of cases, but obviously has to be bullshit.

Even when girls do sports mostly it's just in a gym and it has no deeper meaning besides looking good, and probably the addiction of improving yourself, which is a nice feeling that is present in most activities really.

So I guess my question is, why "jfash" and not something else?

>>9726261
>even "jfash" is a form of fashion
...Yes, it is, it literally stands for Japanese fashion.
As for why, well, I think it's cute, it's fun, I like putting together outfits and collecting new pieces is almost like a sport (auctions are both a blessing and a curse).
Wearing it makes me feel genuinely beautiful, and it makes me feel like I'm my own person in the sense that I don't dress to impress others, I don't care about the approval of strangers on the street and if guys think I'm creepy (and many do) then I'm happy for it.
It's something that I like to do purely for myself, I see it as a form of self love, and it even motivates me to take better care of myself physically by drinking more water, eating healthily and exercising.
Minus the costs, there are no downsides to it imo.

>>9726266
Right. And those are all legimate reasons to like it, and I'm not saying you should stop, because you clearly like it. But why do you think you go into this over one of the many other activities that exist that also have many of those benefits like self expression, challenge, collecting, etc.?

>>9726298
It's entirely possible to like fashion and other things at the same time, you realize that right? Even for people that only like fashion, this is kind of a dumb question. No one can do every enjoyable or productive activity that exists, so they do a few that they're drawn to. And she explained why she enjoyed it.

>>9726298
It's hardly the only thing I'm into, I enjoy writing and drawing too, and again those are things I usually do for myself or for my friends, to make them happy, and sometimes for my job as well. I don't really have an answer as to why I'm into ABC and not XYZ, I dedicate my time to things that make me happy and I've never questioned it.
Why do you like the things you like, anon?

>>9726261
It's not that all women are intellectually incapable of doing productive things, but the way their brains are wired makes the vast majority of them prefer aesthetics over productivity. It's completely natural and there isn't anything wrong with it, and a good amount of them also have other likes on the side. For example, if you take a high school art class, it will be around 80% girls, even though most artists are male. Women enjoy pretty things. Of course, there are exceptions.

>>9726261
>I just don't understand so many people being into it over making music, sports, clayworks, being a movie-nut, programming, whatever else you can think of.

You do realise people can have more than one hobby right? Plenty of lolitas sew, do embroidery, play D&D, play video games, play instruments, are programmers, shoots guns, anything you can name there is a lolita who probably does it in her free time.

Liking fashion and liking other things are not mutually exclusive.

>>9721163
I can understand having a proper job being important when seriously dating, but only americans are this insecure over living with their parents. They are in such a rush to take out ridiculous loans just to move out and be "independent".

>>9726105
I just don't really care about being productive or useful or whatever. And I'm way too clumsy for pole dancing.

>>9726109
>acting like this isn't a negative to the average 4chan 4everalone

>>9721396
cant wait for your boyfriend to dump your ass and leave you without a means of living

>>9726391
Why would he?

>>9721405
It's not like you can't enjoy fancy food on that budget, I'd usually rather buy the ingredients and make it myself though.

>>9726408
Who knows what the future holds, he may end up dying, then what? Plan ahead.

>>9721163
>tfw I live with my mother but we pay everything 50/50 because we both have full-time jobs, I have career goals that I'm actively working towards, I know how to save and budget, and can easily pay my own way on a date
How fucked am I?

>>9726461
Doing this at 31 btw, because I was long-term unemployed for 5 years and have started getting my shit together by busting my ass at university and trying to make something out of my life

>>9726437
Nayrt but my bf is the only thing keeping me alive and vice versa. If he died I would kill myself I don't even care if he's lying and wouldn't go through with it if I died but I don't care.

>>9721163
We have an agreement: We're allowed to like different things and it's ok, so long as we fuck each-other often.

>>9721163
>I want to be pampered every once in a while
Hol up
This seems dangerous
Girls who expect to be pampered have a way of gettin real salty real fast over minor issues.

>>9726391
jelly detected.

>>9726466
Wow. This is horrifying, yet beautiful. I don't think I'll ever be able to feel this way about someone. That's kind of cool, anon. I hope both of you live long, happy lives.

>>9726984
Not that anon. There was a time in my life where i was ready to end it. I told one girl jokingly "if you ever decide to take your life i would be there to accompany you". Later i've got responsibilities and couldn't afford to be so generous about myself. But she still remembered that offer and valued it, she was connected to me romantically. I think it's a strong turn on for a girl to have someone who literally belongs even in death, makes her safe from usual relationship fears like being dropped, replaced and forgotten.

>>9726984
Thank you anon, I hope you live a long and happy life too.
I think we feel this way because we both were and still are suicidal wrecks. I was planning on killing myself within the next 3 years and he was planning on taking his life at the end of this year. It's kind of funny because we met on here on a whim. If I hadn't posted he would be dead and I would be more miserable than ever.

>>9727019
Maybe this is part of it for me, at least subconsciously. But I'm not worried about him leaving me and I don't plan on ever leaving him. We also promised we wouldn't kill ourselves if we did end up breaking up.
Mostly it's because I finally found something (or someone in this case) that I treasure so dearly that I feel despite all its hardships life isn't that bad. Dying isn't worth it right now. Even if it's just for the next few years, I want to create more happy memories with him. By then if I still plan on ending it and he doesn't want to go with me then it's ok.

>be not cuck subby hubby
>get proper woman that does not masturbate to dollar bills and wants to be a classical housewife
>laugh and cringe at the giant cuckolds that put up with "girls" such as OP's pic and similar people itt
Feels pretty good to be quite honest famalamadingdong

>>9726391
I can always fall back on my parents or one of my many orbiters!

>>9726466
>tfw my boyfriend is like this and guilts me with the reality of him killing himself every time i talk about how much i want to die

i love him to death but staying alive is literally painful for me (both physically and mentally) so the guilt of that reality is the only thing that keeps me going. it's not even romantic imo, it's just... sad. for everyone involved. my ultimate fantasy is for us to just become an hero together or for him to murder me so that it'll be over. merry christmas!

>>9732044
>tfw no suicidal gf to slowly stab you while whispering into your ear "I love you"
Fuck this gay earth.

>>9732051
>not stabbing each other at the same time

>>9732054
Y-yes that's nice too.

If you're dating someone that doesn't respect your hobbies that is a huge red flag. They don't have to be involved or interested, but they need to respect it.

Heard too many stories and seen it enough times to feel pitty for people who stopped doing the things they love because of their other half

>>9732072
Giving up hobbies for one's significant other is natural for almost all women and men in certain hobbies.

>>9732206
Thats kinda sad. Isn’t being with someone about enjoying their company and sharing interests? Shouldn’t have to quit doing something that makes you happy just so you can be in a relationship. Tho to be fair, you did say certain hobbies and everybody handles dating differently anyhow.

On a tangent, I hear a lot of stories about parents not accepting or liking cosplay and/or lolita...for those of you who deal with that, what do they usually say about it?

My boyfriend wants to match with my coords.

>>9721163
I had an ex who HATED lolita/cosplay, he would hide in our room when I had friends over and avoided seeing me in lolita whenever possible.

My current boyfriend is very pro lolita and cosplay. He doesn't mind me dressing up to go out and has a "Do what makes you happy" attitude!

>>9721163
don't have a gf, but I wouldn't mind about it if I have one
actually, I think lolita is cute

>>9724684
>It's called going dutch on a date.

It's called being two functional adults. I don't need someone to pay for me like I'm a whore. No wonder so much of /cgl/ is forever waiting for a boyfriend.

>I need my man to be mature, also spoil me like I'm 12.
>he said, she said
>implying
>what did you just say to me
>shut up op, we are talking about bread

Never change cgl

>>9721396
>>9732790
>>9732875
I have to imagine that any of these guys that "like" lolita are just huge closet pedos, I hope none of you intent to have kids with them...

>>9732044
https://youtu.be/SWtL0_z9lgA
Theme song.

>>9733648
Did you really just say that men who think adult women look cute in floofy alternative fashion are the same as men who sexually prey on pre-pubescent children?

Regardless, I've never wanted kids, bf feels to same. So we're all good.

>>9733718
Thank god, keep him out of school zones too if you can

>>9733648
I am this>>9732875 anon again
I must say
bitch, I might be...
on the other side I can differentiate between adult women and children
and trust me, I am not going after little girls

>>9733648
>if I like lolita I'm a totally normal and well adjusted woman
if you like lolita you're a dangerous child predator pedophile
Something's not right here.

>>9733648
>if I like lolita I'm a totally normal and well adjusted woman
>if you like lolita you're a dangerous child predator pedophile
Something's not right here.

>>9734492
>falling for lesbian bait

>>9733648

God forbid your boyfriend is supporting you in your fashion-based hobby. He must be a pedo!

>>9734492
women are orders of magnitude less likely to be pedophiles than men
>>9734570
you mean the fashion-based hobby that just so happens to be dressing up like children? that fashion-based hobby?
yeah I'm sure all the well adjusted, normal guys are flocking to you sweetie

>>9734580
Maybe its the news outlets I pay attention to, but the amount of female teachers getting arrested for fucking young boys has gone almost daily over this past year. No one is safe, homie.

>>9734580
men are orders of magnitude less likely to report sexual abuse than women
>you mean the fashion-based hobby that just so happens to be dressing up like children? that fashion-based hobby?
yeah I'm sure all the well adjusted, normal guys are flocking to you sweetie

Because people can't tell the difference between liking clothing and liking children?
What about guys who like shaven puss, hey, little girl pussy is hairless too. Coincidence? I think not.

Oh and what about women who play videogames? Videogames are for children, if you like those women you are a pedo too.

>>9734580
I'm a man, I like lolita and I'm not a pedo.
Are you angry at this?

>>9734580
what child wears $300 dresses, petticoats, wigs, etc? Most kids I've seen recently wear Justice

>>9734679
I've never seen a well dressed child in my life.

They do like to wear costumes a lot tho even outside of Halloween what's up with that?

>>9734580
>the absolute state of lesbians

>>9734716
Playing dress up as young kids help fuel imagination and creative spirit.
I guess you could say Lolita is a lot like playing dress up but that doesn’t mean it’s child-like. LARPers, cosplayers, reenactors, etc, are all playing dress up as adults, so are Lolitas.

I’m pretty sure this is popular opinion at this point but I cannot stand Ageplay/DDlg/kinksters wearing Lolita, even if they keep that side of their lives separate from Lolita fashion. They taint the public image of Lolita even more, we’re already weird, we don’t need to be fetishized too.

Sage because weird Off topic rant

>>9734740
>LARPers, cosplayers, reenactors, etc, are all playing dress up as adults, so are Lolitas.
Everyone who likes that is a closeted pedophile, who are you kidding?

>>9734750
BE GONE THOT

>>9733648
>I have to imagine that any of these guys that "like" lolita are just huge closet pedos
Can't be, I like lolita even if adults wear it!

One thing I do hate tho is how some people seem to think that any display of male sex drive is dangerous.

>>9733648
>I have to imagine that any of these guys that "like" lolita are just huge closet pedos

wtf is wrong with you

>>9724340
I guess your the type who can't read properly.

>>9721163
At first my BF, hated being out in public with me in Lolita, but it's been four years now and he's come around. He never told me to stop wearing it (unless it was to his grandmother's house which that eventually stopped being a thing too). Nowadays, if I say I have nothing to wear (normie clothes), he's like, "Don't you have a closet full of lolita?" He'll listen to me go on about new releases, random drama in the comm, informs me if something looks off about my coord, and has encouraged me to go off to RuffleCon on my own. Oh, and I forgot to mention for the first time ever he drove me to a meetup in another city about an hour away from our house. He literally did something else for like two hours while I was at a tea party. My car broke down and I prepaid for the meetup so he wasn't gonna let the money go to waste. I feel like it was the only reason he drove me, but it still feels like milestone. Additionally, he bought me my dream dress last last for my Christmas present. Fucking epic.

I doubt he would ever wear anything close to the fashion style though. He's supportive, but not like that. (Yet? I'm hoping still.)

>>9736024
Sounds pike a pretty emotionally stable guy. Be glad you have that. You'd be surprised how rare of a thing that is for both genders

He laughs at me and calls me loser nerd every time he sees me in a costume. Then he tells me I'm lucky that I have such a banging ass or he'd dump me for sure. We're getting married next year. <3

>>9721163
OPs pic is catered to western values especially point 1. Many asian/african/latino households are multi generational. I have coworkes that are 6 figure earners that bought large houses to move their parents in with them. What does she think about those people?

>>9736633
They're still losers, just wealthy losers.

>>9736618
Here's your (you). Now get out.

>>9734580
What children actually dress up like this?

>>9733718
>doesn't want children
I sorry to say it, but you're not a woman

>>9736720

>>9736665
Eh, guys with that type of money usually get them a foreign chick to avoid the hassle of western chicks.

>>9736720
What if you want kids but can't have them?

>>9736720
you're damn right I'm not a woman. I'm a girl and will remain one forever.

>>9737070
Your obsession with Lolita and being a little girl is really hot for a certain crowd...

>>9736633
funny enough that my mom still moved to my dad when he lived with his parents
and I live in a western-society

>>9736618
sounds like true love

He used to be okay when I would show him cosplays but ever since he learned I don't think DND is fun, he just rejects any of my ideas (probably thinking I don't know its related and he's just being petty) even though I'll join his sessions when he wants me to and said I'll play with him and His friends when they make a new campaign too.

It's really obnoxious and childish but now when I do a couple cosplay with another cutie he can't complain since I get rejected from him.

My SO got me into Lolita, it went from just a pipe dream to full Technicolor reality.