/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9702281
I think I just puked. Just looking through his profile makes me want to clean my eyes with bleach.

>>9702283

>>9702281
>respecting someone who doesn't even respect children's rights to not be involved in AGP fantasy garbage
Lmao.

(other thread)
...They are staying in their own lane. You're just trying to force them into your own lane and get mad about it. In fact, that's all that everyone is doing in this post. "It's not about pedophelia," is what we say and yet everyone is going on that it is because they FEEL that it is.

And then you scream about the caption fetishizing lolitas or has a child in them. READ the damn caption. Where is the sex?

Finally, to throw this in here for the inept and ignorant, ABDL, ageplay, and sissy sex is always between TWO. CONSENTING. ADULTS. Imagine that! And if that is grounds for calling pedophelia, then I guess having a rape fantasy fetish is grounds for locking up the partner for rape. Or having a sadist fetish will land you in jail for assault. Hell, lock up the girl wearing the Princess Leia bikini because she just broke copyright laws!

The rest is just gatekeeping or whining about copyright (which is the only thing that has merit; though one could argue that credit is given, no removal of watermarks, and maybe possibly arguable under fair use).

>>9702287
This shit makes me want to die.
Part of me is pretty averse to even posting his photos because humiliation is probably part of the enjoyment for him. He probably likes the fact that he's getting this much attention from actual girls (girls who may or may not be Lolitas, at that).

Can I play devil's advocate? Stealing people's photos and putting creepy captions on them, or buying the photos, especially if they're underage, is revolting. Infiltrating the fashion and being a creep towards your comm members is also deplorable. BUT, I think people seem to forget what platform they are on. If there's something on the internet, somebody's going to bastardize it. That's just how the internet works. I really think that if we want to stop creeps from infiltrating the fashion we should ignore, report, and block.

>>9702291
>they are staying in their own lane
Then how do you explain the amount of sissies who join Lolita communities, YOU using Lolita photos for your sick shit, and the amount of times a ban has happened because a sissy apparently doesn't know personal space as much as they know common sense.

>>9702291
>Where is the sex?
It doesn't have to have explicit sex for it to be clear what the fuck you're doing. Most human beings don't piss in locked diapers or fantasize about being an old man in the body of a young girl just for pure, innocent entertainment.
>gatekeeping
You don't have the right to use photos of people who aren't involved in your gross kink, especially when you obviously don't have permission. It's not "gatekeeping", it's us defending the right to not be forced into your diaperfaggotry.
Use photos of yourself. Use photos of your friends. No one cares what the fuck you do, just leave everyone else out of it.

>>9702291
>>9702291
well atleast we know that sissy's aren't just gross, but retarded as well!

dude, it's not under fair use. you can't legally take other people's pictures without their permission unless they are stock photos
And also, just because there is no sex involved does not mean that it isn't inherently
sexual you fucking mong
Not to mention the amount of sissies who join lolita comms to try and get close to minors
I'm sorry that you're so stupid to think that it's not harming anyone but maybe you should stop wearing diapers and start thinking sensibly for once?

>>9702291
Give it up, people on 4chan don’t listen to any reasoning other than their own. Saying anything to defend them is just going to get you labeled as a pedophile, because nobody on this site has looked at a fucking dictionary.

>>9702306
m8 they're putting pictures up of underage lolitas and minors??
How dumb can you be??

>>9702306
Stop using photos of people who aren't involved in your feminization kink. Then you won't get labeled. Deal?

>>9702277
I know got a fact that he has no permissions using this Lolitas photos!

Why do mods keeping nuking these threads? I feel like we should have a right to defend ourselves against these people.

>>9702314
maybe use punctuation?

you mean you didn't read the last thread where several anon's said they knew girls on it?
And I highly doubt that he got permission from girls such as misako lol
ripping pictures from instagram and facebook ain't permission

>>9702314
i'm pretty sure he even stated prior that he didn't get permission
just said he had a lot of respect for "Loli girls"

>>9702320
he figured that putting a link back to the original was good enough

i feel like that's worse, we don't need anymore people thinking that lolita fashion is a god damn fetish

>>9702315
You're just beating a dead horse, it doesn't matter that you report their posts in DA, they'll keep posting those images and trying to creep in the comms.

>>9702297
I don't make these.

What sissies, where? I already pointed out sissywear pre-dates lolitas by years and have a totally different use of fabrics, length, and other aspects. Maybe lolitas need to stop dressing like sissies and get out of their lane, eh? Maybe that's why their images often get confused as fetishwear by the sissy fetishists. And why so many of your members are confusing it with sissies.

Nothing but anti-trans bigots, probably all of LGBT, too. Something disgusts you and you make it hurt your feelings. "Triggered," "salt," "SJWs." How many of these terms do I have to throw out so you can see how childish you're being, and how your reach into pedophelia and fetishism to justify your feelings. Again, between consensual adults.

And bans are only happening on Deviantart. Maybe, just maybe... I dunno... a real person doesn't review your reports. That all you're doing is taking advantage of a bot and feeling like you're special and did *justice* for the world. Even though these images are spread thoroughly through sites like Google, Pinterest, Tumblr, and so on without ever being taken down.

>>9702291
Staying in your own lane means keeping that shit in the bedroom. I'm into some really kinky shit with my boyfriend and NOBODY has to know about it. Nobody aside from him knows about it. Same with his kinks.

Once you bring it outside, and then on top of that use the fashion that I personally wear every day for non-fetishist reasons, you make a bad name for me by association. People see you publicly using lolita for ageplay, for sissy shit, for predatory sexual advances on others; that isn't sticking to your lane.

You want people to be mature about your sexualization of shit? Keep it private - like every other healthy functioning adult. I don't give a slimegirl's cum dripping ass about what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedroom, or shower, or fridge; just keep that shit away from giving my fashion negative associations.

>>9702328
Don't have a bot doing it, but that's a fantastic idea.

>>9702328
>Maybe that's why their images often get confused as fetishwear by the sissy fetishists.
You spent the last thread detailing the differences between Lolita and sissywear, which means you do know the difference.
You just don't care, and think you're entitled to Lolitas because you're a selfish pervert.
Don't pull that "you're a bigot!!" shit, either. You're not part of the LGBT and you're not trans (actual trans people actually want to be the gender their brain dictates, not be locked into eyesores of dresses and shit in diapers because "being a man in a dress is sooo embarrassing (and hot)!!~~"), you're just an entitled piece of garbage. Remove yourself.

>>9702328
Lolitas don't dress like sissies. Sissies buy brand and dress like us. Sweet lolita isn't inspired by sissies anon. Try again.

>>9702339
Most of them who wear "lolita" buy replicas, so they don't care about stealing art either.

>>9702328
What part of Safe, Sane, Consensual don't you understand? These people break that by involving people without their consent by using their photographs. Involving the public space requires consent as well.

Look, your kink is not my kink and that's ok. But involving others is not.

Meanwhile, all the guys who are actually in this fashion for the actual fashion for whatever reasons are met with suspicion and even fear, that he'll be "another one of those sissies/ageplayers".

>t. Salty brolita.

>>9702331
So take down all the porn websites. Got it. Because I'm sure they feature your fetishes and are crossing into that lane. Or wait.. unless you are gatekeeping about lolita fashion and saying it can only be YOUR thing. Fuck the "brolitas" then. They are just trying to get into your lane, too.

>>9702328
Your victim complex is showing. You're not trans, and you sound more like an sjw than anyone on here.

>>9702328
Sissies posting shit like this >>9702294 is whatever. This dumpsterfire has no cohesive sense of fashion, I personally am not going to get on him for that shit even if I disagree with him openly displaying his fetish for the world to see.

Shit like the OP image? That's not "sissywear" and just blatantly using lolita fashion to associate with sisies.

>>9702347
Most porn sites don't use pictures of children and alt girls without permisson or consent for fantasy captions, though. The few that do should probably catch some heat.
Participants of the fashion you're forcing your disgusting fetish on to have every right to tell you to fuck off. It can only be their thing because they're the ones who buy it, wear it and form a community around it. You just make everyone uncomfortable, prey on young girls in the community and make a general eyesore of yourself. So, yeah, stick to your own kind.

>>9702347
Nice strawman.

I can watch porn of my fetishes and not openly characterize myself by them or make blogs depicting me n the outfits I wear in the bedroom on full display for the public to see. Because, you see, there's a lot more to my personality and value as a human being than the kinks I have in my closet. I'm a very interesting person and don't need validation from strangers on the internet about how interesting I am solely based on my kinks.

I don't steal images from others and photoshop them to fit in line with my kinks and then repost online in kink centered blogs. I don't openly use other communities that aren't remotely related to my kinks as a way to get off.

None of that has to do with porn. I'm sure there's sissy porn and that's just whatever, you do you. This isn't about sissy porn though, and you know damn well that you're redirecting the target. Porn isn't the issue being discussed here.

>>9702337
Gee, you have no idea what the difference between transgender and transsexual is. A transsexual person is transgender, but a transgender person is not always transsexual. Transgender is an umbrella term that encompasses everyone that doesn't fit the ideal male/female, black/white system that society seems to think it understands.

Me? I am what is considered "genderfluid" or "bi-gender" or whatever else is out there to describe it. For the most part, I'm fine being male. However, there are just days/weeks/months where I am far more female than male. What can I do about it? Can I wave a magic wand or zap myself with some transformation gun and be the woman I want to be? Nope, sorry, this is the real world. So, all I have is a band-aid called crossdressing. I have to sit around and make-believe that I'm a woman because I can't be when I want to be. That's just life, that's just how it goes. And guess what, these "captions" help me bridge that gap even further. So either accept that, or be a "transphobe". Maybe this will help everyone else understand what is going on, too.

And I'm not into the diaper scene, but I will defend the ABDL/ageplay group until I am blue in the face. Because again, not always about sex, and if it is, it is between two consenting adults.

>>9702363
>Porn isn't the issue being discussed here.

Please read and keep up. We're being called fetishists, and the lowest of all scum, pedophiles on here. Thank you.

>>9702367
you spend too much time comtemplating you own belly button and inventing imaginary problem so you can partake in the huge sjw pity party even if you're probably a spoiled kid.

>>9702367
>Wahh Wahh I'm a valid tranny pls respect me
>i will continue to do what I want when I want because im a person who deserves respect despite never giving it to you
>I'm not into diapers
Your bio REALLY begs to differ.

>>9702281
He doesn't know what's coming to him.
We'll continue to report that disgusting pedoshit and shit that makes our fashion look like sissy fetsh shit on top of taking pictures of girls (ranging from toddlers to early twenties) that NEVER agreed for their pictures to be taken out of context especially in such a disgusting way. No mercy.

>>9702369
That will stop happening as soon as you stop stealing our photos and trying to force us into your gross nonsense. Use your own content from now on, or seek permission (which you likely won't get), and leave us alone. Do we have a deal?

Fucking lol. Being called an SJW for defending myself against pedophile claims by a group that is mass banning a Deviantart user because she offends you/disgusts you because you refuse to see any other side other than your own even after it has been explained a dozen damn times.. Riiiight, I'm the "snowflake" here.

>>9702367
>i am what's considered genderfluid or bigender
>if u dun accept ur a transphobe uwu
>i'll defend ABDL/ageplay
Just drink bleach already

You poor lolis need to be diapered more than the ABDL. Does your Daddies need to change your stinky diaper?

Please leave us alone. If you don't, we'll fight back.

>>9702347
The brolitas are the ones that get hurt the most from these creeps. Now they have to worry about whether the girls in the comm think they're creepy because some fucker got a little too close to a minor. Do you see the problem or are you just going to keep whining about regular lolitas being bigots?

What are you going to do, burn down an Angelic Pretty??

>>9702382
Fuck
>>9702379

>>9702367
>And guess what, these "captions" help me bridge that gap even further. So either accept that, or be a "transphobe".
Nah, we're not obliged to let you use photos of us or others in our community non-consensually for the sake of your personal issues, and we're also not obliged to pretend we're not skeeved out when you use pictures of children or else we're "transphobes". Piss off.
Also, the people's likenesses you're using are either not consenting, not adults, or some mix of the two, so your repeating "between two consenting adults" is bullshit.

>>9702376
>she

>>9702367
>Someone legitimately using gender bullshit terminology unironically

Hey sissy boy - guess what? Genders have just become whatever the fuck made up thing you want to be. It's like if I called myself a Glissmore and made my own definition for it if people asked what it meant. It means nothing.

You're fine being "male" but then have periods where you want to be more "female?" Cool. You know what we call that? Being your own individual person with your own unique personality traits rather than someone that for whatever reason feels they're required to conform to certain "roles" or they can't consider their self what they really are. I'm a girl who has some manly parts to my personality, and frankly I don't give a flying fuck what you want to call me and I sure as hell am not going to look through a tumblr dictionary of made up words to try figuring out what niche within a niche within a niche I should lump myself into. Because you know what? There's more to me than just a fucking word. I don't categorize myself like a fucking product in a grocery isle. At the end of the day, I'm me, and that's all there is to it. In terms of sex, I'm a female - my biology dictates that. "Gender?" the word has lost all meaning in the tumblr realm. It's natural for men and women to have certain aspects of their personality that are more commonly associated with the opposite sex. Somewhere along the lines, we lost sight of that and instead of embracing that we should accept people as individuals we decided to just make a whole bunch of subterms up to try branding people even more like they're fucking potato chip flavors.

I am me. I know there's more to me than a word. I hope someday you come to realize that there's more to you than a special snowflake term as well.You don't have to love sports and peeing on the side of buildings to be who you are.

>>9702367
Holy fuck, go back to Tumblr already, or just kill yourself

>>9702379
>fight back
There's nothing you can do to us that you haven't already done. People will keep reporting your content because you're gross and entitled.
Maybe take off the diaper, stop calling other men "daddy" for a second and step into reality.

I’m not a brolita or a crossdresser. I’m a trans woman who’s also a self-admitted weeb, but the vibes I’m getting from here are apparently anyone who was AMAB isn’t welcome here for fear of a crime that they haven’t even committed. This reminds me of the conservative hysteria surrounding transgender bans and bathroom bills. In my country, anyone is free to wear whatever clothing they want, and it’s absolutely absurd to police other people how they decide to express themselves. Saying that clothing should be restricted to a specific gender only reinforces the narrow and oppressive gender roles feminists have always been trying to abolish. All this negativity regarding gender non-conforming people sounds way too similar to r/gendercritical and TERF rhetoric. Also I find it personally offensive that some people would compare gender dysphoria, which is a legitimate medical condition in the DSM-V, to someone else’s sexual fetish or kink. That to me, reeks of ignorance. To achieve gender equality, there should be no ranks or hierarchy over which gender is superior or carries more favor.

>>9702391
Your allowed to be a brololita or trans, but we just don't want creeps lolita. The fact that you're commenting on that just feels like you're a Chris Chan type of trans to me

>>9702391
>comparing sissies violating unconsenting girls with trans people
I don't know if you're literally retarded or trolling but I hope it's the latter if only for the possibility of knowing that no one is actually this fucking stupid.

>>9702369
>Getting so pissed for being reminded of what you are.

>>9702391
>this entire garbage post
>calling people TERFs for not wanting diaperfags and sissies using photos of them for captions about pissing themselves and being men who were forced into dresses by their older sisters (seriously, wtf)
I want ABDLs to fuck off. I'm not and never have been a TERF, but I think I understand how someone else might be if they're faced with this sort of entitlement and bullshit as their first close interaction with people who call themselves trans.

>>9702315
I'm pretty sure there's a rule against call to arms

>>9702377
>>9702386
>>9702387
>>9702389

Ding ding ding! There it is folks. The underlying problem. Fucking nothing but transphobes and fucking homophobes. Time to abandon ship any folks who have any decency for their fellow human being, particularly brolitas that also identify as transgender. You will get no respect out of this shit hole. You will be labeled a pedophile and fetishist all because someone doesn't understand who you are are. They want to keep you confined to your own home while they walk around freely.

>>9702401
It's not a call to arms. No one here is rallying to have them reported, it's just individual users doing it on their own out of disdain.
This isn't even that different from ita/weeaboo cringe threads. The only difference is that these people come into our threads and screech that we're transphobes and gatekeepers for not tolerating their brand of nastiness.

>>9702406
FtMs and MtFs are the only acceptable Transsexuals, anything else is tumblr tier
>Homophobes
fucking where

Please, stay on Tumblr, no one wants you here

>>9702391
If you're trans you're fine.
This is more akin to creepers taking advantage of the trans bathroom thing to enter bathrooms with underage girls to get off in the stall next to them. Those people are the ones that give you a bad name. Obviously you aren't like that, but if there was a vocal community of people who did this then you'd obviously be unnerved at the thought that people may lump you with them as well.

That's kinda what's going on here, but with jfash. They're a community that use the fashion for fetish purposes and in doing so can give outsiders the impression that it's fetwear rather than fashion.

Do you understand? Don't associate yourself with these people. They aren't your allies. They would be the kind of people that pretend to be trans so they can go into the girl's bathroom and Splatoon 2 all over the toilet seat and toilet paper in hopes that an unsuspecting girl sits down on their spooge or wipes theirself with dried spunk; and then reason that it's justifiably fine because "it isn't pornographic or sexual" and that they have "fair use" to spill their gunk.

>>9702406
So you finally found some non-sensical prove agains us! Congratulations!

>>9702406
Nice try,i'm a lesbian.
Go back to tumblr.
And yes,I'm a TERF. While I think trans are still human beings and deserve help,rights and respect, they're not and will never be biological women. This isn't even transphobic,this is basic biological facts and denying it is purely delusional. Even my FtM friend agrees on this.
Gtfo lolita and feminism.

>>9702406
If that's really what you drew out of this thread, then I'm glad because it means you'll fuck off. Yes, Lolitas and all J-fashion enthusiasts are evil, meanie homophobic, transphobic bigots. Never mind that Mana is our god (not that you even know who that is) and a shitton of wearers are LGBT.
Now keep out of our community. Stop using our images. Stay the fuck away or we'll keep coming after you to report the shit out of your disgusting posts and kick you out of our comms xoxo

>>9702281
Report and harass him until he deletes his fucking profile.

>>9702406
>particularly brolitas who also identify as transgender
Not every Brolita is trans you dense dumbass.

>>9702395
Honestly, not even /pol/ has been this blatantly salty and disrespectful to a dissenting point of view. Take a chill pill or something. I think you people need to stop acting so judgmental and holier-than-thou.

>>9702406
>Lalalalala I'm not going to listen to anything yo say, i win and you lose caus I said so lalalalala I'm putting my fingers in my ears, I can't hear you!!!

Transexual people are fine. Being trans isn't a fetish, at least to most people. People like you DO fetishize it though, thus giving actual trans people (and that doesn't mean "oh sometimes I like barbies so I'm a girl teehee") a bad rap.

>>9702406
Yes, please abandon ship and leave us alone. We're all transphobic radfems, stop wearing our radfem transphobic clothes, it's like wearing a Nazi swastika. Better sell all your burando and never even think about Lolita again!

>>9702406
Some advice

>>9702415
And you fucking fall for the transgender bathroom bullshit! Brilliant! C'mon keep it up! Show the world how bigoted you are!

>>9702379
A bunch of old creepy men in diapers waging war on young women? Yeah, I’m sure you’ll have so many people on your side.

>>9702425
If you're an adult who doesn't wear diapers and understands such complex social etiquette as basic consent, I'm pretty sure it's within your rights to look down on those who can't even reach that level.
The bar is set pretty low for you.

>>9702429
Nah, I've been fishing the truth out of them this whole time. Hope even just one transgender brolita sees this and leaves this shit hole behind. Granted would someone other than us be on 4chan just to casually browse and not take the piss out of salt mine? Debatable.

>>9702436
We want them to leave too, thanks anon.

>>9702430
I'm trans, and everything that anon said is true. But, more importantly:
We're not obliged to let you use photos of us or others in our community non-consensually for the sake of your personal issues, and we're also not obliged to pretend we're not skeeved out when you use pictures of children or else we're "transphobes". Piss off.

Would anyone be opposed to a thread at the farm on this shit?

>>9702440
I would love to read it, but I'm not really one to contribute

>>9702436
Look, I've gotten into it with some people on here as well, regarding a different issue, but I don't think everyone on here is a bigot. Picking out one or two comments on cgl and using that to paint all of us as transphobes and brolita haters is stupid. I'm pretty sure 90 percent of the people on here said they don't care what fetishes you have as long as you keep it in its place and aren't an *actual* pedophile.

>>9702440
I don't like that the farm seems to have a following of actual transphobes/TERFs and they'll no doubt shit it up (because they always do), but it does seem like a viable option.

>>9702379
>we'll fight back uwu
Kek. Are you going to throw pacifiers at us? Whine to your daddies or on your blogs? I'm shaking anon.

>>9702431
Pretty much this.

Now why don't you guys go make yourselves a nice hot bottle of bleach already?

>>9702421
>muh ftm friend so im not a beegot
Even if Hitler had one Jewish friend, it still made him a racist dictator who committed genocide.
Even if a KKK member had one black friend, he is still a racist by association with the klan.

>>9702445
He doesn't care. He just wants to keep forcing his fetishes (oops, I mean, innocent fun-times) on people without consent and call everyone a bigot for not being okay with it.
There's a reason he ignored 90% of the posts ITT to focus on the ones laughing at him for being "bi-gender". He knows he's wrong.

>>9702447
Yeah, true, I just figured people were getting tired of these threads here.

>>9702450
Lmao ok that's totally comparable,sure anony.
And I might be one in your tumblrina's eyes but i don't give a damn honestly.
Sorry you're butthurt I guess?

Y'all just need to stop sipping on the goth and take in the sweet. Life is fun when you open up to your fellow human being, especially the ones you feel are odd. Stop shutting down people and making up preconceived notions about how they are pedophiles, fetishists, or whatever other toxicity you have roaming in your simply because you don't understand it or are disgusted/offended by it. You are absolutely no different than the SJW crowd when you do this shit.

>>9702449
>be me
>wearing sweet lolita coord while out with my friends at Starbucks
>order a chai latte
>the barista looks at me and my dress funny, then says "Right away, ma'am"
>think nothing of it and return to my friends
>in a matter of minutes, my drink is ready
>the barista hands it to me with a strange smile
>take a sip
>feel something plastic touch my tongue
>slowly take the lid off the cup with shaky hands
>it's a pacifier
>the diaperfags are attacking

>>9702451
It's called a life. I'm working and replying at the same time.

>>9702461
>Thinking lolitas all have sugardaddies and don't work to buy brand.