/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I actually want to see more dance comparisons. Have any favorite westerners only comparisons?

Someone’s a bit touchy.

>>9674375
Why does she and her friend get triggered so easily? She does realize that she now has an internet presence, it comes with criticism, hate and people just generally disliking her. Her immaturity doesn't help either

>>9673943
This is absolutely unacceptable and this kind of behavior is only going to hurt them in the end. If in the future they decide to perform irl, if event organizers see this from them, they will not allow performers with that kind of reputation on stage. If fans/potential fans see more of this kind of drama spouting up, they will eventually dwindle down in numbers; unwilling to support that.

Mimi, if you or anyone in your group is reading this, I'm not here to troll you. I'm telling you and/or any group members that if any of you continue to not handle problems civilly and maturely, it will ruin your chances of Stellure ever growing and succeeding in gaining any opportunities. I could only hope that they take that photo down and issue a sincere apology before things get worse.

People could care less about unpolished singing/dancing in comparison to this, however, there's a certain quality and image that need to be upheld and that goes beyond performing, beyond original content, beyond anything creative. That thing is how you treat others and how you react to people. I honestly want Stellure to get better but that can't happen if they can't fix their attitude. If that can not be fixed, it will all spiral down into a domino effect of constant problems and issues that could have been easily avoided. Attitude is everything.

>>9674375
oh my god, why she's SO edgy teenager.

>>9674375
Its only been 2 days and I already want her kicked. How the fuck does someone one manage to leave such a bad impression in such a short span of time, I'm considering messaging her to call her out on her immaturity and bullshit, but I don't want Stellure to hate me, especially considering how nice the other girls have been to me.
Nitpick but how round her face is annoys me so much, she's literally a circle, and not in the cute chubby way

>>9674416
I feel exactly the same. I want to message them about that too but I don't even know if they are even willing to listen. I wouldn't want to have bad blood with them either. Don't give a shit about the member being non-binary or what have you. I just want them to grow up from this.

>>9674375
#notbothered

>>9674416
>>9674422
Honestly, I felt the same way but that story is what pushed me to say something. I’m acrually writing something to send them right now and I could care less if they dislike it. They need to hear it from someone.

>>9674428
Try to not come off as too confrontational. That way they either have to listen or throw an even bigger and more retarded tantrum

>>9674416
I agree. I feel so bad for Luna, Astra and Callisto because it really did feel like they were making progress and although Callisto wasn't always the best at responding to tough crit on her dancing, it was never a response to the level of Mimi or Nix. I never really supported Stellure or had any hopes for them as a whole (even less right now because of the terrible attitude of one member and also dreading to see how they make 9 people choreography) but I'm still hoping that any member who is genuinely working on their performance skills and maintaining their image will shine.

I hate to diss how people look but Jesus Christ Nix didn’t get ANY good looks out of the gene pool he’s so fucking ugly

>>9674454
>I hate to diss how people look but
Then don't. Stop bullying yourself to try and get sympathy, Nix, the gulls on the last thread were talking about how they think she's (you're) pretty. We're not brainless bullies.

>>9674428 here. I’m copy pasting what I messaged because too many photos from Instagram. Doing this means they know who I am now buuut whatever.

“Okay. Everything I say here is coming from a place of someone who wants to see you guys improve and get really far. Honestly, I really think you guys need to listen too. I’ve been through some of the same backlash you guys are getting (in general, not just regarding Nix).

You guys really REALLY need to work on how you present/conduct yourselves and how you respond to people. I know you may end up like “your opinion doesn’t matter”, but as an idol, the opinions of EVERYONE - supporters, extreme fans, haters, everyone - matter as long as it’s not hate.The people saying they aren’t going to support you because of Nix should be left alone. The response should’ve been something closer to “Thank you for supporting us up till now” than “if you’re gonna use god as a hate device, we don’t need you” (they never said they hate you anyway but I see how it comes off that way).

If people think your conduct is inappropriate, then you should at least take a step back to analyze what was said wrong and how to improve on it. With Mimi’s outburst earlier in the year, Stella’s leaving & the issues that surrounded it, and with this, Stellure’s public image is dropping fast. I don’t know if you guys had plans for getting further and performing at cons or anything, but potential fans and people who run those kinds of activities will look at how you handle yourselves. (cont.)

>>9674469
not that anon but you're being kind of retarded. Half of this board is based upon insulting how other people look. The feelings of some random teenager don't matter, especially if they probably aren't reading lol.

>>9674475
(cont.) Not even just for fans but for yourselves. Public image is probably 80% of an idol’s career. Bad public image and you won’t get very far. Recently, an ex-idol (a Japanese one) was ridiculed for making a comment about another idol’s (from her group) marriage. She used a bit of profanity (she didn’t even say, she was wearing a HAT with it) and it got so much backlash that her agency made her issue an apology. That’s how important public image is. Idols get terrible criticism for even being seen out with a guy for 3 seconds. Imagine what would happen if someone had a huge meltdown where they called fans gross (which has happened).

Being an idol is much more than having fun with friends and singing and dancing and improving. Even though this is just for fun, you have to carry yourselves in a manner that will make people WANT to keep following you and will WANT to support you financially. Even doing something for fun requires a certain level of professionalism. Yes, you guys have many many followers who will support you through thick and thin but you have to think of those who stopped following you and will not follow you and you have to think of why. There’s a lot to being an idol and I really want you guys to look more into what that is (especially as self-produced idols) because I would hate to see you guys get to a point where nobody will listen or support.”

>hitting post limits left and right.

>>9674475
>>9674478
This is nice! It comes off (at least to me) as concerned, not mean in the slightest.

wow i have mixed feelings about all this shit about Stellure.
I want to Stellure fail because sucks so hard.
But half of this thread is based on Stellure and I love this fucking thread.

>>9667399
To bring back something from a couple of threads ago, according to Ally and Sally's facebook/twitter, they apparently have already had quite a few applications and they are now back in Canada so I'm assuming interviews and selections will be made soon. I'm surprised that something like this has only just happened now for the community and it's happening in Canada and not somewhere in the states. I'm very interested to see who they select. Any gulls looking to audition?

>>9674478
I might want to send something similar to some of the members privately. Having experience from running a multi admin account, I usually don't express my full opinion if others are going to see it, especially if it's regarding one of the other members. You don't have to, but you might get a more honest answer from the members personally if they actually decide to respond.

>>9674531
I honestly would’ve if I lived in Washington. I’m down in the south though so I’m holding hope they eventually expand even if it’s unlikely.

>>9674534
I thought about that but then I figured that’d be a waste of my time. If nobody from Stellure responds or reads or even likes what I say, then they deserve to lose the people who support them.

Honest Idol Confessions Anon, thanks for doing what you do!

>>9674531
Cool, I'm in Vancouver and it's nice to see idol stuff happening here. Not gonna audition though because I can't dance worth shit.

>>9674563
I was thinking the same thing. Hopefully more people see it.

Unrelated but I kind of want to start an idol etiquette & advice blog. So stuff like this doesn’t happen again.

>>9674475
>>9674478

That's pretty well said. They need someone to manage their people and most importantly: say no when they say something that shouldn't be heard online

>>9674579
PLEASE do. Maybe interview some of the more professional girls as well, to see how they manage their public appearance?

>>9674563
No problem! Glad I can provide a place for you guys to post on instagram. Feel free to keep sending stuff in!

Help me out, gulls.

What was the group created by the guy who also did AKB0048 and each of the girls were illustrated by different people associated with different anime? Did anything come from that?

Ooooh boy Mimi just posted a string of Instagram stories. Would someone care to summarize them here? I would, but have to go to an appointment.

>>9674607
You mean 22/7 (Nanabun no Nijuuni)? They released the debut single Sep 20.

>>9674613

Yes that's the one! Thank you!

>>9674610
Basically “there’s nothing wrong with Nix being in the group” and “you have no right to judge Nix just because your beliefs don’t match theirs/ours” and “thanks for supporting us but we’d rather lose your support than members be unhappy” and some other unimportant comments about it.

>>9674620
Why is she trying to make it about that? Literally none gives a crap. Were more upset about how they handled it and continue to handle it. They want to be taken as serious idols but want to act like kids about someone who just stated they cant support them for their religious beliefs. That person shouldn't have to apologize or be criticised in the first place just like how Nix doesn't want to be either. They talk about tolerance but, can't give any back?

>>9674630
Well it started from there but you’re right. A good 99% of it is more of them being bad at handling it instead of Nix themselves. I don’t think they understand that though. At the end of Mimi’s story she said she hopes the controversy dies down but she’s only made it worse.

>>9674610
Her whole rant was basically about how Nix's gender identity shouldn't prevent them from being an idol and that if anyone has a problem with it they should just unfollow. She didn't address Nix's immaturity and lashing out at all.

>>9674281
https://youtu.be/rOtx-b645Eg
https://youtu.be/Rz_9QPEUUOI

I don’t know why but I felt compelled to immortalize Mimi’s story. Used my screen capture to record the story. May or may not post it later.

>>9674610
She also mentioned that Stellure having 9 members doesn't mean they're copying Love Live, and went on to say that there's a lot of other 2-D idols and real groups from Japan and Korea and then she changed that to relate to how that means it doesn't matter that Nix is nonbinary. I don't really get how those 3 points all make sense together, but sure.
Mentions how amazing Nix is at singing and dancing but
>singing: 3 stars
Also I didn't realize that Stellure was pronounced "stellar" and not "stel-lure".

>>9674651
Thank you for your valiant effort; it shall go down in the Mimi hall of fame

....excuse me what?

>>9674688
I'm getting a feeling that Nix is just a kid using a hip term like non-binary just to sound cool. If they were non-binary, they could use a term like best member?

>>9674688
>Yeah I don’t like female pronouns but totally feel free to call me “best girl”.

Definitely think >>9674698 is right.

>>9674688
I'm more bothered/confused by the post referring to Nix in third person, then shifting to "I" mid-sentence and being signed by Nix.

I thought what Mimi said in her ig story wasn't too bad but she was pretty all over the place. I wish she also talked about how immature Nix was being. I don't really care about the gender crap but more of how unprofessional Nix was being gave so much second hand embarrassment.

>>9674469
I'm anon you're replying to and no dude her face is really fucking ugly, it's so round it's uncomfortable. I feel like if he had longer hair it'd actually frame it and be kinda cute, but jesus right now he looks like an alien.

>>9674698
as a nonbinary who doesnt give a shit i wouldnt mind it either. people have their preferences.

>>9674724
>her
>he

freudian slip?

>>9674728
sorry I goof on peoples pronouns sometimes

>>9674725
Yeah, I’ve got an enby friend who prefers they/them but is alright with feminine terms as well.

>>9674735
Right but if Nix prefers to use they/them and he/his, wouldn’t it make more sense that they aren’t okay with her/she.

Two new Halloween covers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OpdrEC1DHI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGbnhv6pffs

>>9674787
>Hachinin wa daare
>10 members
What.

Nix aside, titania is hilariously weird lol

>>9674787
adding a couple more to that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VM74XOB4qk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78qL0aJe6gc

>>9674811
Sounds like she's just trying to be "lol random XD dolphins lmao". She's also spouting baseless bullshit.

>>9674814
That’s how I took it as well. She’s trying and failing to come off as a conspiracy theorist, instead coming off as a lol so random type.

>>9674811
She has a point though. Ever heard about dolphin rape?
Those creatures are evil.

I thought I'd be able to understand from the name + video but I can't. What is a dance comparison?

>>9674849
Exactly what it sounds like. Comparing 2 cover versions of the same dance to each other. Either both bad or one good and one bad.

Hibiki is adorable, and the best dancer out of the Kyun cover imo. Too bad Chihaya is lost and ruins it

Jyuke what are you doing.. this is one of her worst covers yet

https://youtu.be/SwmET0WXEJg

>>9675027
That wig is infuriating me to no end get some hairspray on those bangs for the love of god

>>9675027
Can you explain exactly what (aside from the wig) is wrong with this cover?

>>9675046
Not that anon, but she is putting way too much power in moves that are suppose to be nice and flowey. Overpowering your moves can make it look sloppy. She is using her K-Pop skills for a J-Pop dance and it doesn't transition well. Ive also never seen alot of this choreography in other videos. Originality is cool but it needs to fit with the song too. It felt too much like K-Pop choreography which, again, doesn't fit with a cute J-Pop song. The wig and lose fitting cosplay doesn't help the overall apperance either. Its a sloppy bad cover. Here is the MV and other videos for comparison:

https://youtu.be/CblCNTw4Grw
https://youtu.be/CblCNTw4Grw
https://youtu.be/b03oQ2yWlUQ (example with original choreography that (at least) fits the song)

>>9675065
The only reason why i mention K-Pop so much is because she does alot of intense K-Pop covers more than J-Pop now and days.

>>9674706
i think maybe it's like nix is a character separate from themselves because it's an idolsona? at the same time it's kinda weird to me because at least love live is an anime/video game with characters created before voice actresses are even picked wheras stellure literally has characters designed for the people that 'portray' them?

>>9675078
Personally I think “idolsonas” are just an excuse to make characters. Even an idol’s chara is developed over time, not right away even if it’s obvious from the getgo (like Tanaka Reina’s yankii chara was obvious but even as she grew it evolved a bit).

So I wrote Nix a nice comment about how they could fix the problem for the future by ignoring the trolls and stuff and to show that I’m supporting them etc. They ignored what I said and then went a posted that on their story, which 3 people including me wrote paragraphs to them. Mine was nice, Nix was my best girl/boy whatever. Was. Isn’t anymore. Honestly the dumb bitch needs to grow up, people are trying to help them and they are being such a cunt about it.

Who made this LOL

>>9675169
If Nix is the kind of person to turn away support that isn’t 100% agreeing with them, they deserve no support. Honestly these last few days along with some other things made me realize that Stellure is more of a clique than an idol group. It feels like if you don’t agree 100% with Mimi (and now Nix), you don’t get to sit at the table. I’m questioning whether all the members ACTUALLY agree with them or if they’re saying it just so they aren’t ridiculed and kicked out.

>>9675184
Was it you because it seems like it was you. That was posted months ago and I wouldn’t have even found this even if I looked. Idc who it is but I hope they keep to their word especially now.

>>9675185
I feel sorry for the other members to be honest.

>>9675065
Hey, I really like that original choreography! Wish she'd worn a more form-fitting top and the lighting was soft but the dance itself is kinda cute and that's not something I see much of.

Does anyone know other dancers who post originals?

>>9675192
Sure Jyuke

>>9675193
Not that anon, but I think they're talking about Deanna. It'd make sense since she's wearing a loose top.

Posting a Binetsu Kara Mystery cover

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av15888952/

>>9675193
>>9675197
Yeah, was talking about Deanna! I thought that would be obvious from the "original choreography" part but I hadn't watched Jyuke's yet and I didn't read the entire post when I replied, sorry!

To be honest I don't completely hate Jyuke's either (talking about the dance only, fuck that wig), from what I remember regarding the original MV with the singer and some weird dudes wasn't very soft and J-pop-y either. But unlike >>9675065 I'm not familiar with kpop and can't see the influence there

>>9675221
Forgive my shit typing and general dumbassness, I haven't slept in a couple days

Watched some other of Jyuke's videos and I see what that anon mean now. The weird kpop shoulder/waist "snaps" look extremely out of place. Is there a name for this move?

>>9675193
>>9675197
Yeah, was talking about Deanna! I didn't read the entire post and didn't watch Jyuke's cover before I posted, should have clarified, sorry!

I watched Jyuke's cover afterwards as well as some other ones from her channel and see what >>9675065 meant about overpowering the moves but I think that execution aside, the choreo itself isn't bad. But man, I hate kpop. She does the weird kpop shoulder "snaps" in this too and it just doesn't fit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl5P2i8hBiU

By the way, is there a name for this move? Or for any of the more characteristic j/kpop ones? I feel like some of them show up often enough to need a name

I honestly think providing their main Insta accounts was a terrible move for Stellure. They need to keep their private lives and 'idol lives' seperate to maintain a good image. I was checking out their instas and... This is Lunas? Like as a group trying to present an idol image, this is super inappropriate, especially considering that they have a lot of young fans.
They should never have linked their mains on their idol profiles.

If they wanted to vent/ have uncensored content they could have made locked Twitter accounts or something.

>>9675254
They could keep their locked Instagram accounts too, just... maybe not with "Cunt" as the name. That's disgusting.

>>9675234
Do around what time? I tried to look but the only thing I have an idea of is around 13 seconds but that may be wrong. Unless she’s made up part of the dance, it’s not even her choreo so I don’t think that’s her fault.

>>9675254
Honestly, if they're not cursing AT anyone, I think it's fine. Plus, I appreciate that she tried to make it better by making her account private so she can control who follows her, but I agree that having the word "cunt" in her title doesn't make her or the group look very good.

Crystal Rose’s Flower Water is out. Personally, it sucks. All their music isn’t anything to rave about but this in particular is below par even for them.

Okay so this is almost 2 months late, but does anyone remember the gorup Utaboo! that was posted here before?

https://youtu.be/32uKCVbAPRw

Apparently, and I’ve used google translate for this since I know zero Spanish, the had 3 members graduate and have stopped Utaboo! all together. The remaining 4 will make a new group together under a new name supposedly. I wonder what they’ll have as a theme next.

>>9675447
the editing on their faces is fucking horrifying

Anybody participating in the OdoTeam Battles?

>>9675386
It sounds like a church singing. You know, that unemotional chanting kind of singing? Where no one is actually trying to hit notes or put emotion into their vocals and it kinda drones on

Also don't understand what's up with the singular autotuned girl

>>9675447
It was because they had some "internal fights", the members who stay in the group wants to make the group more professional and search a producer.

>>9674787
>>9674812
People trying to dance Idolm@ster dances always infuriate me. If you can't even dance Love Live dances, don't even try the original Idolm@ster. It mostly annoys me because The cosplays are not accurate at all (Hibiki is nice tho, next to the wrinkled dress) and it is obvious some didn't practise or just can't dance at all.

>I really love Idolm@ster and the dances they produce, but most cosplayers just don't do it justice.

https://youtu.be/HYhd-HIb9r0

In all honesty, I decided to follow this gorup because the name seems stupid and I was expecting another failure. But honestly... For someone to have supposedly made this themselves and with the voices I’m kind of impressed. All that’s left to see is what their members are.

>>9675833
Wow this is actually really good? RIP Stellure lmfao. Do they only have the youtube and the twitter? I'm so curious now.

>>9675860
No they have an Instagram too. int2_official. There’s not much on either but supposedly they’re starting member intros over the next few weeks. I don’t recognize the silhouettes in the art used so I’m assuming it’s original? I honestly don’t care if they are using their actual faces or if they’re just using art though as long as they’re not referring to it as “characters” or “idolsonas”.

>>9675876
I don't care about that either. Like, whatever they do, at least they're capable of producing actual content that isn't dogshit. As long as they don't have like really bad PR or something.

>>9675833
stellure got murdered

>>9675958
More like every wanna be instagram group that exists.

Man, I just discovered stellure a few days before their new member/nix/sjw drama... it leaves a really bad taste to me, too... which sucks because, despite their quality and glaring issues, I really wanted to see them progress... I even have one of their songs stuck in my head. BUT.. after seeing the stupid drama that they took part in, I'm not so sure anymore. :/

>>9675192
Estrolic has some impressive original choreographies!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBcRPUChAzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tx65Skusbo

>>9675386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBlp2iX7Obo
Yeah, this doesn't sound so great. Their songs usually have decent instrumentals, but their vocals are as lifeless as ever, the mixing of the chorus is muddled, and the lyrics are just odd.
>You notice petals have landed in the water
>The water sits there and collects the flower's old memories

Two members of Flusay Girls, Juju and Lii Lian, graduated apparently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd_n4v0XiHM
What a hell of a sendoff.

>>9676315
Honestly, this is something that bothers me about Crystal Rose:
>The Full MV will be released on the 20th December 2017!
Why is the music video coming out after the single and two months later at that.

Anyone know what Kika’s native language is because it surely doesn’t seem like English.

In other net idol news, PH (one of the debatably better groups) is announcing something Nov 1/tomorrow. Any ideas on what?

>>9675334
Around 1:32-1:34. The move in itself is about the same, but she does the weird shoulder snap where other girls do it softly, see

https://youtu.be/VVwpqGrR7dk?t=107
https://youtu.be/U1DFzSlNkV8?t=91
Also:
https://youtu.be/VntcdAJFRA0?t=93

>>9675833
Oh wow this is actually really nice. I'm impressed and excited to see them.

Out of curiosity how come the spreadsheets not been updated?
Noticed Sugar stars isn’t on there

>>9676683
Spreadsheet anon died. There has been discussion of making a new (and possibly more efficient) spreadsheet but none has volunteered.

>>9676708
I may make an attempt, anon. Give me a few hours.

>>9676713
Bless you, anon

ChiRi Girls' cover of Kyun! Vampire Girl is probably the one of the best (least cringworthy) ones out there.

(Just a fan, not either of the members themselves)

>>9676315
what is she saying? her english is slurred.

>>9676747
I just watched it. While it is the least cringey one I’ve seen, I think only the blonde girl was good. The other just felt weird.

Video in case anyone wants to watch
https://youtu.be/zkYKBjzfg8I

>>9676747
they're about to be performing at the dance gathering at Youmacon this Saturday. Anyone going?

>>9676764
I am! Are you going to be dancing or just watching?

https://youtu.be/e-s1nyLDED0

The camera work is pretty good here!

>>9676768
Just watching. I'm not familiar with most of the performers so I'm going to take this chance to check them out.
It'll be my first time at Youmacon.

>>9676720
No problem! We needed a new one anyway, and I really only lurk in this thread. I don't mind the homework.

I planned on switching the long links for short handles and hyperlinking all the social media and Youtube pages to make everything cleaner. I also wanted to separate the duo/trio idol groups from the rest of the idol groups, but that will take some time on top of the hundreds of handles I'll have to type out and the sifting through each group to find which ones have less than four members...

Also! I wanted to separate Love Live cover groups from the rest, and I made a page for im@s cover groups, but... I'm not sure there's enough to warrant a second page?

Expect it to be half-finished by tomorrow. I'll (hopefully) be able to provide a link to the spreadsheet at that point! Sorry for flooding the thread with this...

>>9676753
>>9676747
Least cringe-y but also so... underwhelming? Almost boring. I like their other ones better, especially this one, the colors and setting coupled with the see-through umbrellas are really nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caqy0yuJdwI

Did anyone post anything for halloween that wasn't kyun! vampire girl or happy halloween?

>>9676749
Basically she received a notification that Juju and Lii Lian had graduated from the group, and although she didn't know either of them very well aside from the fact that they dance well, she wishes them good luck for the future.

>>9676844
>Also! I wanted to separate Love Live cover groups from the rest, and I made a page for im@s cover groups, but... I'm not sure there's enough to warrant a second page?
Maybe you could have all cosplay cover groups on one page with a column specifying what idol franchise(s) they cosplay from?

>>9676852
>Did anyone post anything for halloween that wasn't kyun! vampire girl or happy halloween?
Or Dancing Stars on Me?

>>9676852
Other than Platinum Happy’s Sweet Witches Night, I don’t think so...

>>9676877
Spreadsheet-anon here!

I was thinking that initially. I came to the conclusion that, if someone wanted to search exclusively for im@s groups, it would be much easier to have a separate page dedicated to them, but maybe it would be better to just set a category on one page to distinguish them and let people search that way.

Adding email so other gulls can provide suggestions without spamming the thread, just in case.

>>9676895
ow.... didn't know this existed and excitedly looked it up after reading this post. Sweet witches night is my favorite song of all time and I'm.... in a lot of pain right now. It's like seeing your daughter get fucked by a crippled homeless man.

>>9676926
I didn’t mind the singing but the way they do dances is horrid.

Happy birthday, Rin!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-s1nyLDED0
Wish their Hanayo wasn't completely out of sync with the others, but the first minute before they start dancing together is really, really cute

>>9674610

Oops this is a late response. I was meaning to post this earlier when I saw her IG story but ohh well... I saved it just in case. I guess this post would help those who missed seeing her IG rant. By the way, I'll be quoting what Mimi said verbatim.

> "I mean, I get if it goes against your beliefs and while you're free to believe in whatever you want, there's nothing saying you need to support us. There's nothing saying you need to follow us. Like you can ignore us completely"

Same thing could go for Stellure. Its a bit hypocritical if she's giving out this advice. She does not need to address it, she could just ignore it.

> "You should not just ever say mean things to somebody, put them down, harass them, or attack them just because based on their gender or their like race or their beliefs or anything."

But isn't that what Stellure just did? They put their ex-fan down because of their Christian beliefs? And we all can agree they were not harassing them, that is horseshit.

> "You should not try to change them or yell at them for who they are or who they wanna be. That's just not your place. Just like it's not their place to say those things to you."

The job of being an idol is to gain approval from the audience. As it should be Stellure's job is to not change themselves completely but change in the way that they can be better versions of themselves. If they can't get that in their heads that being an idol is all about growth, they don't deserve to call themselves "idols".

Also going by her logic, it's not Stellure's place to judge their beliefs either.

>>9677111
Sorry cont. due to post limit.

> "...and what I'm trying to say for Stellure is if you don't like our choices, then don't support us."

This is the most basic ass cop-out argument that I hear all the time from Youtubers or other entertainers. The whole "if you can't handle me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best" mentality is really irritating. It's like she's implying they don't want to fix their mistakes and they are going to continue acting in this way. It's like she's implying that Stellure is exempt from criticism.

If you are putting yourself in the public eye, you're going to hear people disagree whether you like it or not. How you choose to react reflects on how people will perceive you to be. And this is also going back to my previous point: "the job of being an idol is to gain approval from the audience".

> "Like thank you for supporting us up until now, I really appreciate it, like I love all of our fans but honestly, I would rather my members be happy and feel safe in our group and comfortable..."

Love her passive agressive tone here.
A dissenting opinion on the internet isn't going to compromise your safety. C'mon, get real. She just wants to be "safe" from people disagreeing with her and calling out her BS.

The rest goes on to how she's summarizing that Nix will stay in Stellure and that Stellure is going to have an amazing time bla bla bla

Just like what >>9675185 said, it does feel like a clique. Their version of "support" is to agree, obey, and not go against anything that they do because they are pure innocent special snowflakes that do no wrong.

>>9674610
Man IDGAF about Nix's gender, they're just immature as heck.

>>9674811
titania confirmed for /x/ fag

Mimi acts like being an idol is all fun and games and all about the members. She seems to care more about her members feeling accepted in the group than about being appealing to her audience, which is kinda important to being an idol or any kind of entertainer. Like idols are supposed to be appealing, not repulsive and exclusive.

Plus she keeps referring to her members as "characters" and that kind of bothers me. Your life isn't an anime.

>>9676852
Ice Qream did Aing. From what I saw, most people did Dancing Stars on My, Kyun! Vampire Girl and Happy Halloween, but that was obvious, as it's all anime-vocaloid songs.

>>9677025
This was already posted, anon. The Hanayo probably sucks because she just joined that group recently.

>>9677111
>>9677116
I assume Mimi no longer comes to these threads, but if she does, why hasn't she taken any of the advice given here? It could really help them out.

>>9677287
Because she’s narcissistic and thinks she’s right. I sent them a message and it just miraculously never ended up being seen.

>>9677287
Y'know... this would be the best time for that stellure.is.not.that.great IG account to start postin'. If not, it would be a cool concept for someone to make an anonymous Stellure/Netidol callout youtube/ig/blog/w.e. Maybe that might make them listen or at least have the members listen.

>>9677317
Honest-chan here. I have the idol confession ig I run. You guys are more than welcome to use it to show evidence of anything for stellure, make callouts, and do other stuff. If you want a throw away youtube, i can upload it to this throw away account too. Email me and let me know.

>>9677323
Ntayrt but honestly, I will send more Stellure stuff. Another anon said they had Mimi’s rant and I do too if you want to upload it anywhere. I know people will go all “stop with the Stellure” but honestly it’s just so funny to see it.

>>9676877
>Anonymous
Local group did this for Halloween https://youtu.be/dvIfynLjxiA

>>9674812
I will never understand why, out of the two versions there are of Happy Halloween, people choose to do the boring ugly one.

Y'all ready for some beef?

There was this fb thread of a bunch of Michigan girls coming down on this girl, posted by a girl who used to be in the same group as her, for being a shit human being. I debated screenshotting the thread ages ago, but didn't feel like doing it because I didn't wanna scroll through the girl's fb to find it and block out names, but Leah decided she wants to become relevant again so I said fuck it, I got a minute. The thread kinda summarizes some of her shit which makes it easier.

Various screenshots to follow. Censored the names just in case except Yuki mentioned in people's comments because she's the one who posted it. I think it's public anyway but just to be safe. If I missed a name oh well.

>>9677715
Pt 1 of of post

>>9677716
Pt 2

>>9677717
Pt 3

>>9677719
Pt 4, everything beyond this is comments by people. Tried to color code people by member color if I could figure it out, otherwise ppl get random color

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>>9677731
Didn't scensor Amina/ Aminyan because her fb is public

>>9677735

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>>9677741
The screenshot from Leah's fb

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>>9677758
Last one finally lol sorry for spam.

>>9677761
So now that those images are out of the way, she's been causing drama and bullshit wherever her path takes her, but once she dipped out of the community from being essentially shunned/blacklisted everyone was content and all was chill. Then she decides to become relevant again, kicking off by starting shit, threatening people, posting innapropriate shit, and trying to get her boyfriend into the mix. I think her photographer sugar daddy helped give her a power trip to start up again now that he takes pics of her or some shit. After being a nonstop bitch she decides to message us a couple days ago with a vague apology without really apologizing. Not sure if she's trying to get involved again but we'd like her to stay the hell away from the idol/dance community because she's done enough making the comm look bad. I imagine her bf told her to apologize because we know for a damn fact she thinks she's done nothing wrong

>>9674785
This is such fucking garbage.

>>9677773
Her comment about "everyone talks shit about every other group" was such bull. The Michigan dance comm is amazing and supportive, unless you're an asshole. Everyone is always so excited to see each other at conventions and attends each other's performances. And even if the community was petty and full of drama, that's not an excuse to be that way yourself. She just says whatever she thinks will excuse her behavior.

>>9677715
Oh lord, this tea. I remember this. I thought this was over with already.

I'm (kind of) a part of the Michigan Dance community, but not a very vocal part. I've just been watching this drama happen from the sidelines (granted, I don't like being in the middle of things like this). From the standpoint of a dancer in the community and a fan, I was wondering why the Nebula Kiss members were starting to disappear with no explanation whatsoever-- but this explains it.

Sorry, but once you've disappointed a whole community, there's no need to dip toxicity back into it.

Perhaps I'm not in the position to talk about something I don't really know 100% of the details of, but this whole situation needs to die down and she needs to stop being petty. No need for her to beat up a horse that died a while ago.

Anyway, come support the rest of the Michigan Dance Community at Youmacon on Saturday. I'm excited to see everyone perform.

>>9678054
(same anon)
She's gonna be at Youmacon too. Wonder if she'll show up to the gathering and if she'll actually try to apologize to anyone face-to-face, if she apparently apologized recently (I didn't read one of the anons above before I made my post, sorry about that)

Unrelated to issue at hand and I’m not someone who hates Amina or anything, but I listened to Seppuku a bit on BandCamp. Did she become known/semi-famous because of talent, being black, being edgy, or a combination of all 3? The music is really great but her vocals aren’t exactly something to rave about and the lyrics feel like she’s trying really hard to be edgy...

>>9678054
>>9678074
Yeah, this particular thread was well over a year ago. The reason it's relevant now is because Leah took a year off after that whole thing happened and is now trying to slide her way back into the community. I didn't see the apology she posted but it was apparently really shitty and fake, and no one is buying it. I don't think she'll be at the meet up at Youmacon but if she is, everyone will probably just ignore her.

>>9678054
Also we probably vaguely know each other! I'll be dancing on Saturday too. Good luck with everything!

>>9678222
Hold on, grabbed screencaps anon

>>9678229
Then this other girl who was recently shunned for being shitty slid in and tried to support Leah, but otherwise everyone just kind of ignored her apology aside from Rira being polite. There's speculation that her and Jalynn planned this but I don't think that's it.

How are you going to bust this out after years of terrorizing girls, blaming your problems on them, then CONTINUE to terrorize after your hiatus- but suddenly slide in with an apology. Leah's English/typing skills aren't this good, which tells me she copy pasted. I think her boyfriend found out that Youmacon security is keeping an eye on her because of threats and maybe is finally learning her shitty behavior but doesn't fully understand it. I think the bf is pushing her to clean up her act. He's done it before.

>>9678229
What I don't like about these is that she never actually apologizes about anything. She's not owning up to a single thing she's done. "I want to apologise" ok? Then apologize?? Make ammends for ruining nk

Why seems all group leaders are so bad?
And why have a leader, In my group didn't have one and works perfectly, all opinions matters and we do what the most part of the group want.

>>9678054
Hey, previous NK member here who was still in cahoots after leaving. Nk was essentially run by pink member until Leah turned the group on her and she left; then, the group would cycle through subleaders/leaders for short bouts of time because of Leah. Pretty much when the first subleader dipped, NK was a sinking ship until the most recent Red member became leader and tried to fix it. The group, without anyone leaving, would have been like 12-17 members. I believe at it's height, it was 9-11 until it trickled down to 5. There were maybe 2-3 who left for this or that reason, but Leah bullied everyone else out. Instead of members getting proper grad posts, she'd believe they didn't deserve them and never made them. She'd act like they didn't exist. With the pink one she didn't even credit in some videos on the yt. She would literally let members disappear. I've always felt bad for those girls, and I hope they don't hate dancing now because of her..

>>9678054
(same anon)
This whole thing is just sad to me honestly. I've been a big fan of Nebula Kiss since 2014 and it's just upsetting seeing the group be seemingly torn to shreds from the inside for no reason. Kudos to the members who are still around despite evetything, and kudos to the rest of the community for dealing with all of this in a more mature manner than the opposing side.

Ugh..

>>9678251

Because those who don't want to be leaders are more often the ones better equipped for the job. They don't have their ego or self importance getting in the way.

>>9678251
Same here. I mean, I basically do everything for my group, but I'm not really the 'leader' and from day one we established that there were no leaders. I'm actually worried a lot of the time that I'm being too bossy even if nobody seems to think that about me.

What do you guys think? Do groups need leaders? I think most groups need managers, at the very least, even if it's kinda hard to find that.

>>9678383
Personally I feel most groups, especially self-produced ones, should have a leader even if the producer doubled as the manager. In the case of self produced, someone needs to say “okay everyone this is what we need to do and when” and members need someone to go to for problems. In groups with a producer/manager, I feel it’s improtant because for small stuff you shouldn’t keep bothering the producer. Then in general there just needs to be someone to say the simple stuff when they’re being introduced or doing interviews. It gives someone for the group to look to when stuff comes up. Now super super tightnit groups of 4 or less no. Especially not 2 (like in W). But 5 or more definitely.

>>9678383
Honestly, to get things accomplished in groups without a proper leader someone needs to be a bit bossy. So long as you hold yourself to the same standards and don't act condescending to the other group members, I think it's actually a good thing to be decisive. A group where nobody makes any decisions or has the drive to improve will just end up being disbanding.

I've always liked the idea of being a manager for a group but there's no real demand that I've seen, most amateur groups want to do everything themselves which is understandable. Still though, the idea of sorting out all the little things and giving the members of the group proper time to work on their performances has always seemed so appealing to me.

They disabled commenting kek

Stream in less than an hour

>>9678492
Stellure* stream i meant to add

>>9678466
Drama died down so.... why?

>>9678492
Beat me to it. Anyone gonna send in any “questions”?

>>9678492
I'm so excited

>>9678496
I want to ask questions to the other members, not Mimi. I feel like we know way too little about the other members compared to Mimi. I hope people focus questions on other members so we can also see Mimi get upset.

>>9678492
They deleted their story so doubt theyre going live anymore. They can't stick to anything they say

>>9678492
they had

"technical difficulties"

in other words, it's not gonna happen

>>9678393
I'm just a love live cover group but a manager would still be great lol

>>9678611
I actually did manage an online LL cover group one time and it was really fun. I did all the mixing and video making and set the deadlines and it went well. I love all that idol stuff and working in a group but since I can't sing or dance worth shit it was a nice way to be involved.

hmm. so much for a livestream.

>>9678649
There should a rule that a net idol group’s anniversary should be their official group/member announcement date or their debut date. Stellure was technically only announced Nov. of 2016 (as an MLP group), Dec. 2016 (and a regular idol gorup) & debuted in Apr. of this year. Are them dumb or just stupid?

>>9678383

In my group we had three. One established it and was a figurehead and the other two had experience in these types of groups - one was a trained dancer but didn't want the task of leading everybody.
It helped because between the three of them you didn't have to worry about one becoming a dictator of sorts and the other two would keep one in check or point out things the others may not have realised. It really did do wonders for the group, unfortunately it meant the other members usually got lazy and complacent, even when asked to do things by those three leaders.

I feel that they're necessary. Not everyone will like the idea of someone having authority over them when its meant to be mostly for fun, but it helps having the info going through one person regarding cons and showcases.

Phew, okay! Updated spreadsheet is done.

docs . google . com /spreadsheets/d/1w3peD9VtAPM9cuIjYlexb7nHOkUfFs_Fcyv21UYakV4/edit?usp=sharing

The email to contribute is on the landing page, and comments should be enabled through this link...

Hopefully this is a suitable replacement.

Again, apologies for this taking so long. I work and go to school full-time so a lot of this was done on my breaks/in between classes, heh.

>>9678968
Thank youuuu

>>9679133
My pleasure! There were a couple major updates for a few idol groups and solo idols, but nothing too troublesome.

I added an idol song masterlist. I kinda forgot the first spreadsheet had a page dedicated to original songs, so I got started on a similar list. I know it won't be done until Saturday or Sunday, oop.

Thanks for the help so far, everyone!

>>9679245
I am sitting here laughing and cringing so hard right now, my old defunct idol group I tried to start years ago is on the spreadsheet (despite obviously being dead) Man, I was a cringefest back in the day, guess those pages haven't totally faded into obscurity yet.

Thanks for what you do spreadsheet-chan though, it really is helpful to have all of this documented even if some of it is your own weeby past self haha.

>>9678968
Thank you so much for your hard work, Spreadsheet anon!

I'll be watching the groups at Youmacon's dance meetup thing tomorrow for the first time. I'm only really familiar with Nebula Kiss and ChiRi Girls.
What should I expect? Are the rest of the groups cringy or are they actually good?

>>9678609
How real idols handle technical difficulties, even if they're a tiny indie group
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGFMFmZlM8I

>>9680368
Not to defend Stellure, cause I’m not 100% sold on “technical difficulties” of Instagram, but I’m pretty sure a live stream (or any video/upload) not working out doesn’t equate to your music cutting? I’ve seen pro groups delay MV because of technical issues or even full take downs AFTER it’s already uploaded. I’d agree if they were doing a live, the music or mics stopped, and they stood there or walked off though.

>>9678054
I live in Michigan. Where is this all posted? Some kind of facebook community? Just let me know what I should facebook-search for, MI anons, pls!

Remember that terrible wanna be Korean idol that couldn’t even say “annyeong” right? Well...

https://youtu.be/OD2ak4_4jS8

>>9680224
Carina Cafe is a lot like ChiRi Girls in the sense that it's made of two girls who used to be in Shuumatsu Candy and do a mix of dance and vocal stuff. HimePro does kpop dance, Pink Devil does I think jpop and vocaloid type stuff? There's a lot of solo acts listed that I'm not sure about.

The fact that over 60 people auditioned is crazy enough but the fact that not even all of them live in the same STATE is horrible. This group is going to fall apart faster than I expected.

>>9680765
>all under 18
>college issues

what. do they mean college apps or whatever? I'm so confused.

>>9680765
And the fact that one of the members is someone that they were friends beforehand puts me under the suspicion that the auditions were just biased to begin with.

>>9680765
There's a possibility they're bluffing on how many auditions they got. That was my first thought when I read that.

>>9680851
I'm assuming they're worried about SATs and college applications. Doesn't really apply to members like Polaris and Tauri...

>>9680765
Even if they are amateurs, it doesn't mean that they can't ask for outside help. I'm sure there are people out there that are willing to assist them as long as they ask. Almost all of the other net idols on these threads are amateurs but with the goals and ideas that they have in mind, it's going to take more than 9 inexperienced teenagers to actually make it work.

>>9680896
Not just one. Both Nix and Titania were friends with the members prior to joining. Wouldn't be surprised if the other two fall under that category as well.

>>9680765
From what I can tell, Vega appears to be from Georgia. You'd think 10+ Hrs distance would be a deal breaker.

>>9680900
It only applies to Mimi, Astra, and Nix since they’re the only ones nearing the age of graduation. I suspect those 3 are seniors (or juniors) right now since December of last year she was 16. When they go to college, Stellure will disband or get really inactive.

>>9680906
This is a good point. It's clear that people are reaching out to their e-mail or messages directly to offer help. This isn't the attitude of someone who's looking to improve as an idol in order to succeed, this is the attitude of someone making excuses so they can do the bare minimum of what's expected of them.

Just because they're a group of clueless teenagers doesn't mean they aren't capable of making it work, they just keep making excuses for themselves and make no effort to accept any advice or help given to them.

>>9680909
Literally how the fuck are they going to make that work? She's not even old enough to drive... What a shitshow. At least get a member that lives near you... They can't even work on blocking if she lives that far.

>>9680910
I'm in an idol group and I'm in college, but I still dedicate a lot of time into my group. Seeing how Stellure holds up once the three of them reach college will be a real test of their character.

>>9680909
If she’s in Atlanta & they’re in Jersey, that’s literally a 1/2 day drive. That’s too much for a measly video.

>>9680907
As someone who has dealt with adding friends in their own group, it is absolutely not a good idea at all. The dynamic of their friendship is going to change based on that kind of boss-worker relationship. This means that Mimi might teeter back and forth with trying to be on friendly terms with the members but also making sure that they keep in line. The members might see her in a different light because of this. And Ii the members suck at their responsibilities or suck at dealing with authoritative figures, not only would it put a strain on their friendship but it's going to put a strain on the group.

Just friendship alone isn't going to work and it might make it worse. They need absolute teamwork.

>>9680917
And if*

sorry typo

>>9680915
Are most of your members in high school or are they all college too? Personally I think college only groups and high school only groups work better than a mix of the two. I have a friend in a different college than me and even though im online, the hardest part is finding a good time for us to hang out because of her classes & activities.

>>9674787
shit,these are so cringy

I just can't wrap my mind around the reason they brought in 4 more girls if it was hard enough meeting when it was just 5. Plus Mimi trying to design and sew 9 costumes by herself when she's dealing with college applications seems so stupid to me.

>>9680922
No, all members are in college. I would agree on the idea of keeping them separate, too, if I'm being honest. There's a huge maturity imbalance between the two and it's easier to work around each other and set schedules when you're all around the same age and dealing with the same circumstances, for some reason.

Our group has set days to meet up, and we work those times out about 2-3 weeks in advance. That's always worked for all 9 of us (LL cover group, sorry), so we've never had a reason to do it any other way.

>>9680765
>>9680906
>>9680915
The members of 4TE, they don't live near each other right? I mean if that's the case, they have absolutely no excuse to not ask for outside help. Their managers are in Canada and 4TE still makes quality original content regardless of that fact.

>>9680909
>>9680916
What was going through Mimi's head when she thought that getting someone from Atlanta would be a good idea? Unless Vega's parents are rich and could afford getting on a plane to go over there. She would be better off joining Georgia based groups like Peachy Parade.

>>9680935
As far as I know, 4TE does live in different states but within the same area (Southwest). But I think a big difference is that 4TE away go a long time without content due to their individual projects where as Stellure tries to do something new every month with just a bare minimum.

>>9680915
That's exactly the vibe they got. They made that post like that to basically tell people "Stop expecting us to be professional, we're just kids!" when people on this board and off tried to give them legitimate advice and criticism.

>>9680974
Exactly. If you want to be taken seriously, then act like a damn professional and take your criticism and advice when it’s given to you. They won’t get far if they keep resisting help and making countless excuses for why they’re too lazy to put effort and practice into something they claim to be passionate about.

Sigh. I have a lot of feelings. It may not seem like it, but I do want them to do well. They just have a lot of growing up to do...

Found this string of comments on Stellure’s most recent post.

>>9680974
They aren't that far off from turning 18 years old and when they do, they can't really use that excuse anymore. Fans have expectations. Idols have to try to meet those expectations. I don't understand how they don't get that.

>>9680996
Are they inept?

>>9680996
>annual singer for GSW
>paid to be in musicals
If that’s true waste your time kid. Mimi doesn’t like being out shined.

>>9681052
How do I forget the word “don’t”.

>>9680765
>>9680974
>Us: Maybe your content would turn out better if you didn't impose such ridiculously short deadlines on yourselves that not even experienced net idol groups could manage. It takes more than a weekend to create and learn a decent choreography, and you have had two songs postponed for several weeks now.
>Us: You should also not cuss and lash out at your fans and/or critics. That's extremely immature and unprofessional.
>Stellure: But we're just kids~!! You can't expect us to be as good as professionals!

>>9680983
>It may not seem like it, but I do want them to do well. They just have a lot of growing up to do...
Same here. There's that bit of potential that they could improve (Bright Future vs. Shining Stars), but they keep sabotaging themselves so they stagnate at mediocrity.
Maybe now with 4 new members who seem like they won't be contributing anything other than a singing voice and a dancing body, the quality might be driven down by Mimi's increased workload of 9 girls to draw and 9 costumes to create, and members being spread out even farther than before.

>>9681076
It's not even just acting professionally about it. They don't act like idols... at all. They act like the typical teenager that wants to fool around.

>>9680765
>>9680974
Honestly this mentality of "we're just kids so of course what we put out won't be good" bothers me. I'm pretty sure Ririri is younger than all of the Stellure members and she puts out quality content. Even when she executed the dance moves kind of awkwardly as a little little kid, it was still entertaining and had effort put into it.

The age excuse can only get you so far when what's really lacking is actual discipline and effort.

>>9681093
That exact mentality is just a lazy excuse, I assure you. They think it gives them a right to do that bare minimum and avoid any form of discipline that's required of an idol.

>>9681098
They can't even reach bare minimum. They are barely hitting it.

You got other idol groups that are shit with what they do but you can at least know that they are some what consistent with their work.

>>9676825
If I had to nitpick I'd say the cosplays need a little work but this was really fun to watch!

>>9681090
This is probably the most truthful statement yet. You can tell it’s nothing more than some stupid project they just barely take seriously. They don’t have the maturity for their age to really be decent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_at6Oi5DaAs another happy halloween cover, this one is decent.

>>9674812
The socks on the IM@S one are atrocious, and I completely agree with >>9675794

>>9681112
Say what you will about groups like Sugar Stars and Citresse, at least they act like they have some passion behind it all.

>>9681131
Is kinda decent but she’s really stiff. She should try to loosen up a bit.

>>9680935
She's apparently from Pennsylvania.
Better, but still quite a drive.

You know, it’s pretty sad. Castillo and Luna are pretty talented and arguably the best ones in Stellure. Their voices are really good but they’re overshadowed by Mimi’s ego. Patiently awaiting Luna’s song and their solos if they happen.

>>9680765
I mean i feel kind of bad, but girl pump the brakes. First there was the whole "we have one song out now lets make sub-units" thing. I mean songs and costumes for only two people is a lot more manageable than doing it for the entire group, but i figured they would at least do 3-4 songs before splitting everyone up.

But how on earth will you ever release any content when you can't even all meet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0idr_gVW_w

Remember when idols actually put in effort?
Take me back to that time.

>>9681435
Honestly, I’m hoping a group starts that adds effort back into the equation again & that it catches on.

>>9681093
What really bugs me is that she's complained about being busy with "college stuff" on multiple occasions now, which isn't a "kid" thing to be busy with. By the time you've begun looking at/applying for schools, you're either about to be or you already are a young adult. Idk maybe its just me but when I hear "kid" I think of ages 12 and below.

>>9681348
Most of the girls do seem to have potential (I can't wait to see Polaris perform) but Mimi's ineffectiveness as a leader and her refusal to accept help or criticism brings down the group as a whole, unfortunately.

>>9681435
I forgot about the Promise Sisters! This is a really cute performance and they have nice voices. While we're on the subject of old-school net idols...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W_O2f2o9ZE
I miss Pinku Project. I wish there were more fashion-based (net) idol groups. Meltia, merry merli, Cream n' Chrome and Candye Syrup are the only ones that come to mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMWpsVyaxdw
Blue and green's voices are very weak, but otherwise the song and dance were cute. Camera quality wasn't so great though.

>>9680996
I know this girl personally and she's an amazing singer! I'm not even joking and she can really dance. But she is over here in California and she's also very narcissistic. I can see the stellure girls hating her, I have a hard time putting up with her as well. She sang for the warriors once BTW, hasn't done it since.

For those who went, how was the dance event at Youmacon?

This is why I hate american Lovelive cosplayers.

www.facebook com/ClaraCowsCosplayCup/videos/765812613628658/

>>9681980
their personalities and the outfits are nice but the bad acting and fatness overpowers all the good elements.

>>9681594
It seemed a little bit unorganized at first, and the crowd didn't seem nearly as large as last year, but in terms of the dancing, I think all of the groups were pretty good. I actually enjoyed Hime Project's performances the most.

>>9681980
the actual outfits look really nice though, wonder where they got them.

>>9682211

They uh...they made them. It's a competition, you have to.

>>9682276
NTAYRT, but at first I was really skeptical if they actually made them because in the video it looks SUPER accurate so I went to check. There’s legit progress pictures. Personally I’m pretty amazed because most people seem to half ass but because she’s (assumably?) an adult, it works.

>>9678222
Lol so she was sucking up to an Ohio group at Colossalcon because her own state hates her? Wow chickadee.

>>9678251
I actually like our leaders in NiHana. They do a good job and balance fun and work.

>>9674650
More cover comparisons!
Yokai Taisou Daiichi
A.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKWiV8ZI1OE
B.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB0lVz2uGDs
C.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNqry1XCdqY

Koisuru Fortune Cookie
A.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYJSQJJW31w
B.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ9CFFPfMWs
C.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mq91WSMzRk

>>9682659
>that last kfc cover
I barfed.

>>9682673
each and every one of her videos is a travesty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opbm2pzsjHk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SU-MOepOoE

>>9681980
>Clara Cow's Cosplay Cup
that name + these contestants made me think this was a cosplay contest exclusively for fat people but apparently it's just a coincidence...

These dance comparisons are fun!

https://youtu.be/jr1NX4Jo8GE
https://youtu.be/UFWHou10_bg
https://youtu.be/7DNrGd2sFTc

>>9682659
>>9682757
I just realized, why not do side-by-side comparisons? It even puts the channel names in the corners for convenience.

Koisuru Fortune Cookie
https://viewsync.net/watch?v=AYJSQJJW31w&t=5&v=GJ9CFFPfMWs&t=3&v=2Mq91WSMzRk&t=30

Yokai Taisou Daiichi
https://viewsync.net/watch?v=pKWiV8ZI1OE&t=0&v=WB0lVz2uGDs&t=3&v=UNqry1XCdqY&t=7

Kinyoubi no Ohayou
https://viewsync.net/watch?v=UFWHou10_bg&t=1&v=jr1NX4Jo8GE&t=1&v=7DNrGd2sFTc&t=0

KNOCK
https://viewsync.net/watch?v=rOtx-b645Eg&t=6&v=Rz_9QPEUUOI&t=14

I hope these actually work properly for you all lol

>>9682779
When I watc Yokai Taisou, I love how Riri’s very energetic childish and how Noora & Petra’s is more refined and in line with older people.

That My Little Pony dance group from a couple of threads ago debuted last week. The song starts about 0:40 seconds in.
https://youtu.be/eOBrJZ3KBDA
Pretty sloppy considering the choreo is literally designed for children, but I guess I've seen worse.

>>9682828
talking about noora & petra, have they done anything interesting recently? i saw one music video but that was months ago.

>>9683156
It's cute I guess? Giving me war flashbacks to when I was in the brony fandom tho.

>>9682757
These are all really cute

>>9683184
I don’t think so. Last I checked, the most recent thing was their Japanese project with Pinky.

Can anyone list some easy vocaloid dances that are good for beginners?

>>9683352

Happy synthesizer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gmbtH_JNRE

Hello, How are you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ketb2_lXim4

Toluthin Antenna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKw4RBBwHGk

>>9683156
Applejack’s pretty darn good, though!

>>9683191
>Calling a lazy and out of sync dance cover cute

If you say so.

>>9683184
I saw a tweet some time ago saying that they've returned to Finland but no idea what they are going to do next.. Maybe more dance covers?

>>9680447
Underrated post, this was exceptionally bad

>>9683876
Yep they're back in finland.
It was a little weird how they suddenly had to return, they had just released their first single with pinky, and were touring all over japan doing release event fan meets, and then all of a sudden they just tweeted "its been decided well return to finland in a week". Their fans were really shocked and asked them why but afaik they never explained it. I have a theory that maybe their entertainment visa ended and they werent able to renew it.

>>9684014
The only thing with that is if you planned on staying for a while, why wouldn’t you get a longer visa (unless they were in Japan before the collaboration but I didn’t think they were)? If they really did go back suddenly, and I’m not too familiar with how it charted so correct me if I’m wrong, it’s possible they had to go back because it did poorly & it wasn’t expected to.

>>9684040
They were in japan for a while before the collab, they performed regularly on dear stage. I think noora stayed there longer and petra joined later. I definitely remember them being there as early as this spring.

>>9684065
I looked more into it and they seem to go back and forth but the most recent seemed pretty sudden. Maybe they simply need a break.

Hmm sounds like so much drama and popularity in the idol group community, I'm glad that I'm not apart of it. it seems like any kind of group has drama.... is there a group that doesn't have drama?

>>9684876
No. Women (and non-binary like that bitch in stellure, I guess...) are always cunts to each other so there’s bound to be drama in a group of women.

>>9684877

I actually agree with that, I was in a cosplay group and one of the girls kicked one of my friend out of the group because one of the main girls didn't like her and said she caused drama... but I actually feel like this main girl causes drama and she's one of the reason I'm put off joining groups (let alone Love Live groups)

>>9684876
I think that when you are a group of long time, well established friends, the drama is significantly diminished because you already have solid relationships with each other and while I do agree that when you get a bunch of women together, there will be some pettiness or drama, you are more motivated to work it out and move forward with it when you already have solid friendships with those involved.

It's these groups of (mainly cosplay cover groups I find) girls that decide to just get together randomly and that scout without any vetting process that end up being full of drama. Especially if they are following the love live model, putting 9 people together that don't know each other? You are almost guaranteed that at least one of them will be crazy/lazy/annoying/stupid/whatever and will stir something up just by the sheer largeness of the group.

>>9684923
I think along with how well you know people, age and maturity and the reason for wanting to being in an idol or cosplay cover group are huge factors as well. I don't know what Stellure's average age is but I assume it's around high school and the word drama makes me think of Stelure and they have pretty dry reasons for being an idol group. Big groups definitely have the biggest risk of the one person that ruins the group chemistry but even in quintets like Minty Pop it's possible. After all, no one puts time and effort into these groups only because they love idols, the goal of becoming popular and showing off skills is what drives groups to make content.

I feel lucky my group has never had drama between members haha. Whenever we have had issues we've spoken to each other about it and found ways to resolve it maturely and not sharing anything on social media to cause trouble. I don't know why other groups tear each other down for petty things.

>>9684923

actually there's more bitchiness with members of a group and they are normally still have their hate on someone even though they don't show it in person... in my group the only person I was mainly close with was my best friend but I felt out of place with everyone else and my best friend started fitting in more. I left the group though

>>9684988

I tried to get people to talk it out in the group I was in but they kept on getting annoyed with me trying to help. all they did was post something on facebook about certain people without saying their names. I just think "bitchiness" when I'm a middle of some girls drama. This is why I rather like being with guys

That reminds me are there any guy idol groups?

>>9684964
That's a big pet peeve of mine, when someone's only apparent reason for wanting to be an idol is because they just "love idols so much!!" Just because you enjoy watching (anime) idols perform doesn't mean you automatically have what it takes to be a performer worth watching. Idols are more than just their cute outfits and smiling faces.

With all the drama and management issues that go down in larger groups, I'm surprised there aren't more soloists, duos and trios.

>>9685055
>are there any guy idol groups?
MeseMoa. started off as an odottemita group and became an indie idol group with original songs and live concerts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAXq3UOQvao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr-lGndl6jQ

Aside from that, I don't really know of any all-male net idol groups, just mainly-female dance cover groups with one or two guys in it.
I think you'd find more guys in groups that do K-Pop covers as opposed to J-pop.

I'm trying chika but my black hair is appearing
What should I do?

>>9685147
>wear a wig cap
>WEAR A WIG CAP
You should ask for help on the cosplay threads for tips on how to style your wig, anon, but it's gonna be pretty hard to pull it back since you'd need a lacefront to do it exactly like chika. You'll probably have to improvise and do something *similar*

>>9685147
Get a better wig

>>9685147
Like the other anon said, wear a wig cap. I also find it helps to glue down the wig with lash glue over my real sideburns (because I have very prominent sideburns). But then again, that only works with characters with sideburns.

>>9681544
holy crap, they're so good!
>2009
>newest vid is from 2012
;_;

>>9685101
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAXq3UOQvao
Men are better at everything

>>9685218
>https://youtu.be/XXDNW138aAc
Sorry but no. As much as I love MeseMoa, Danceroid’s version tops all others.

A BiS/BiSH cover group. I never thought I'd say the day. From Chile, of all places.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc7sI2go4N4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYyC663_FLg

>>9684876
Based off experience, I noticed people who have been in sports teams or people who have dealt with actual competitive situations properly are the most capable kinds of people for idol/dance groups because they know how to be honest with each other, they know how to strive for better, and they understand legit teamwork. They don't put up constant excuses and they usually get the job done. When it comes to any kind of group, everyone involved needs to have a good level of maturity and those who surround themselves with unhealthy attitudes are the groups that will ultimately fail in the end.

>>9685297

I can understand totally understand that. I notice lots of people who do dance groups have hardly any experience in working with a dance group. Even though I never danced competitively I have danced for 10 years and can see things people keep forgetting to do (like smiling, technique and style). I played a lot of sports when I was younger (and did swimming competitively) and I can say that they are pretty strict with training. I can't stand too much of an unhealthy attitude in groups, the girls in my old group had too much unheathly attitude that made me more scared to try and fit in with them.

One time I decided to join this Love Live dance group and I found out it was all a bunch of girls under the age 16 (with me being 20). I felt kinda out of place and the group wasn't that active socially and didn't even plan when to meet up for pratice for months so I decided to drop out.

my friend put me in charge of her LL dance group since she's busy with her j-pop idol dance group. After having a few people drop out because of their Maid Cafe schedules, not cosplaying LL and travel reason I was finally able to have a full group with people who are pretty mature and that are all around my age group (except 1 or two of them who are 16). Another thing good about my group is that there's quite a few of them who has experience in dancing for idol groups, k-pop groups, maid cafe groups and LL groups.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ0iLvgVE7c&t=4s

>>9685877
Why. Why does the Umi have to be so dead. Why does Nico have to be so fucking fat. I honestly don’t care if other characters are fat but fat Nicos really bother me.

>>9685518
Your group sounds interesting! I'd love to follow you guys but I know posting usernames here isn't the .. best idea.

>>9685963

I think its more because the Nico doesnt have her pigtails. The only minor problem is that they don't look as happy that much, they sometimes look like they are looking at each other, their dancing is a bit out of sync at times and the stage is a bit too small for them

>>9685055
J-M@sters Crystal are a 4 member male group that focuses on Idolmaster from Chile. They're pretty attractive and seem to work well together. iirc they used to be mixed (guys and girls) but since reincarnating with the "Crystal" suffix it's only the dudes left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQQy26vCm3U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x_W9KP34Mo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW6LdzS-gn0

>>9685877
How is it so fucking difficult to lip sync properly?? How do you listen to a song as many times as needed to learn a dance and still not know the fucking words? That's literally the one thing that always makes me so goddamn mad and I have no idea why.

>>9686001
Agree! I also don't see why it'd be a bad idea to post here, we had a few people self-post or identify themselves before and as long as you're not with stellure or involved in major drama it shouldn't attract much negativity.

Some that come to mind are the special guest at a past event who identified herself and got quite a few singing tips, and the chubby-ish girl who was dancing in a corridor who explained her house wasn't spacious and that she was working on her weight.

/cgl/ is not immediately synonymous with catty drama anymore. I wish more people would self-post here, it's not like the scene is super flooded that posting would be "self-promoting". we already post and discuss literally everyone who posts a video anyway.

>>9685157
>>9685179
i'm wearing a wig cap XD

>>9685877

https://www.facebook com/Celestial.Idols/videos/877934462365527/

holy shit

An akb48 cover that was posted recently

https://youtu.be/Rhbphs09lOQ

>>9686877
Can people pic other songs besides River? I'm so sick of this dance and song. Theres so many better dances in AKB to dance to anyways.

Anyone going to this?
https://www.facebook com/events/319167198555956/

>>9686001
>>9686566

like I would post my group here but we only created a social media page 2 weeks ago and we are going to meet up for the first time for dance rehearsals next week. All I can say is that my group is from the UK, a little mix of different sizes and our first dance we are going to do is start dash (since its pretty simple to do).

looking on these threads makes me want to be in an idol group but I don't have time for that. Ah well I can always do j-pop covers with friends (singing or dancing).

>>9686666
Give up.

>>9686941
Looks cringy. She looks like the prime example of girls watching 1 epsiode of LL and wanting to become an idol.

>>9686955
Where in the UK are you based?
If you're comfortable sharing, please email me your group profile so I can support you!

>>9687042
Sorry just noticed my email must have disappeared when I had to redo the captcha. Sorry.

Also calling out to any other gulls in groups or that perform solo. Please email me your social media profiles so I can support your endeavours!

>>9686901

Mind naming a few? I'd like to do a cover but I'd like to pick something which isn't hugely overdone.

>>9687225
NTAYRT, but your best bet is any of their songs that aren’t River or Beginner (or maybe even Aitakatta). Some of their old albums + 2 “newer” singles have choreography clips of select songs and you can find them on BK-BlackKoala. Specifically Koko ni Ita Koto (short versions only), Kamikyokutachi, 1830m, Kokoro no Placard, & Koisuru Fortune Cookie. You may find some other song tutorials online but the ones found on those albums/singles are the only official ones you’ll find. NMB often has dance videos for their songs though so that may be an option too.

>>9685877
I was literally about to post this here as soon as I saw it, because most of them look straight up dead. I can get behind most of them, I think Kotori is really cute and smiling, but Rin looks like she doensn't know why she's there. Sometimes I wonder if these groups practice together and have someone observe how it looks/ look at the recording afterwards. If I was in this group I would not want this to go up online

>>9687234

I'm with you all the way with Aitakatta, it's too simple and boring to me, and the running/waving at the audience is just plain weird when you're going solo.
How about ponytail to shushu? I always liked the energy of that particular one but wasnt sure of it's status of being a go-to song like those you listed.

>>9687475
I don’t think it’s done nearly as much as the other 33, KnP, or Koisuru so I think Ponytail is an okay choice.

>>9686941
Oh god. Don't go to any Perez Play events. She's super disorganized and holds these events so she can have fun herself. Her lack of focus and lack of proper conduct definitely shows.

Her and her friends last year organized a shady AF gofundme (you can check the archives) in which one of them admitted that the money was not going to "help unfortunate cosplayers and promote them" but to their own vacation fund.

As for the girl performing there, I seen her and she is terrible. >>9686941 you are absolutely right. I doubt she knows anything about idols at all.

>>9687539
sorry, meant to tag >>9686941

>>9687539
how do i fuck up on this twice
>>9686986

>>9686233
Considering there's 4 of them, they could easily do ensemble stars covers

>>9678165
I’ve been a solo dancer for a while and I’m an older gull. If my memory serves me correctly Amina has been in the net idol comm since she was 13 and I remember her from forums and shit since about 2010. She was kind of a joke then but nonetheless a pleasant enough girl. She took the idol thing super seriously and heavily used social media. That’s what got her a lot of popularity. Also a little known fact is that she has few Japanese fans. Most of the support she’s gotten as well as the reason for her winning Miss iD is due to die hard neckbeards she’s been courting for a while. I saw her at shutocon in like...2013 and even then she was walking around with an enterouge of a few loser fat older guys. She’s kind of like AKB. Talent skills is absolutely shit, but collaborated with good composers and people like her attitude. The edgelord thing is relatively new for her and I think she’s imitating some of the alternative idols that are popular in Japan now. Amina got famous/lucky because there weren’t many net idols back when she started.

>>9687654
Also she didn’t win Miss iD but they made a special category for her and some Thai weeb girl. I remember Japanese twitter wotaku complaining that she only won because “damn gaijin” were voting for her

>>9686233
>Magi Love 2000%
So nostalgic

Hey I’m actually a REALLY close friend of Stella’s and I wanted to clear some stuff up about all the drama surrounding her leaving the group. Stella was definitely embarrassed because of the amount of hate the group got and it was a reason in her leaving, but the main reason for her leaving the group was because she and Mimi could never get along, she’d message me all the time saying how frustrated she was because of Mimi and how idealistic all of her ideas were and how she never listened to her ideas that were actually attainable for the group (she agreed that they shouldn’t rush out performances and that Mimi needed to stop putting all the work on herself) she apparently told Mimi multiple times that she needed to trust the other members enough to let them help her but Mimi basically refused to let anyone help her because she didn’t feel “useful enough” if she didn’t make all the costumes and do everything herself. Stella got sick of the constant arguing and that’s what really caused her to leave, in addition to all her other reasons of course, but Mimi was the main reason she left. But a few months after she left and after all of the drama with her posting on here (Mimi DID call her out on that btw and they resolved all that between themselves) Stella basically took full responsibility for everything that happened between her and Mimi and everything she posted on here a while back, she sent a huge apology to Mimi saying how sorry she was for everything she did to the group out of spite, Mimi responded weeks later saying that she was sorry as well and even admitted she had been holding a grudge like Stella had been. So basically all of the drama between the two of them has been resolved, and Alli was actually really excited about the new members and told me that she’s hoping they continue to improve and that the new members can help the leadership issues the group has at the moment

>>9682294
I'll be damned, that's some impressive skill.

>>9687799
I really hope Mimi does follow up on her end of the apology. I for one, didn't have any issues with Stella. In fact, I don't even blame her for getting frustrated or leaving, she had every right to. Stella seemed to try really hard Stellure and to convince a leader that wasn't open to other alternatives and actual practical solutions. I give Stella props for speaking up about that. Although, I believe what most of us are saying here is that the huge chunk of Stellure's problem is Mimi's inefficiency and failure to listen to constructive criticism. If you do have contact with Mimi, let her know that if she ever wants to get better, she needs to pay attention to what people are saying to (or about) her and Stellure. If Stellure (mostly Mimi) doesn't show any kind of change/growth, quite frankly, her end of the apology doesn't mean shit. At least, that's my take on it and I'm glad they reconciled.

>>9683156
I've never seen a dance cover of this song before, this was cute and fun to watch

>>9685877
Maki needs to get out and join a better group

>>9687904
Just because she's the skinniest and maybe the most decent looking one, she is definitely still in the same dancing category as the rest of them. Like >>9687458 said, the Kotori at least had the decency to smile and look like she was enjoying what she was doing. (I understand wild stars isn't the most cutesy or passionate song but you still need to seem like you have some energy when you dance.)

>>9687799
Bullshit I've seen Stella's private ig and the posts she makes talking shit about ALL members. explain Stella screenshotting her own private ig then posting here. Was that before or after she apologized for everything? I think Mimi is a spoiled brat but Stella is just as bad or worse imo

>>9687042

Like London based (though there are quite a few London but I'm so glad my friend wanting to make this group)

if you want to give me your email I can email you(or I can post my email). Also like I said before we have like no post on our group, but we are discussing about what we are going to do for the next year.

Stella apologized for EVERYTHING including all of the posts on her personal account even though Mimi never saw all of them, and the only beef she had was with Mimi. She seriously regretted everything she did to Stellure and has completely stopped posting about them after she apologized, she’s completely moved on from all the drama and as far as I know so has Mimi and the rest of the group

Also there’s only seven people following her personal account and they’re all close friends of hers that she trusts, they all know everything that happened and you can ask any of them if she’s actually sorry because they all saw her posts from the night she sent Mimi her apology and took responsibility for everything she did. You might follow her spam account but unless one of her friends is a snake you’ve never seen her posts on her personal account

>>9687983
That's the thing, one of her friends that follows it is a snake bc I've seen her posts multiple times. Trust no bitch. Everyone shows everyone anything if it's remotely interesting.

>>9687980
>>9687983
I'm wondering though. Did she let you know it was okay to post to /cgl/ with this information? Was she afraid to say this openly on her own?

>>9687995
It's Stella herself lol

She doesn’t know I posted any of this, she’s done with all the drama that happened, but I’m still salty about the whole situation and wanted to clear up what’s been assumed about her on here because she’s a good friend of mine and I want people to actually know what happened

>>9687929
The post literally said Stella apologized after posting on here....

Stella apologized months after posting on here, this was old news by the time she apologized for everything she did and resolved everything between her and mimi. She posted on here in about mid June, mimi called her out on it after about a month and they resolved all that drama, and around August she apologized for everything and nothing has happened since

New thread >>9688191

>>9674268

The Aquaria girls are fucking toxic.
Cosplee/Levi (Mari) is an immature little cunt
marmalade.cos/Maia (You) is the queen of being a two faced gremlin
dangerdaddy/Aislinn (Kanan) is just a straight up angry, ugly bitch
I feel bad for the rest of the girls in the group, how unfortunate it must be to be around them so much - The Yoshiko (Jade), Dia (Miranda) and Ruby (Rinzi) of the group have literally all talked shit about the group members, it's gross.

God I wish they would grow up.