/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9688889
My IW book purse.

While it wasn't the first brand thing I ever owned, I felt like a "real lolita" for the first time when I wore it. Maybe because it was such a common accessory for efamous lolitas at the time? I don't know.

Anyways, it still gives me the warm fuzzies and it goes with just about everything I own.

>>9688889
Pic related. There's something about Baby's giant, gaudy crown jewelry that I absolutely love to the point where I have to convince myself to stop buying more.

EGL and DL archive anon here.
Almost done saving all of 2007 on Daily Lolita on pinterest. I did as much as I could with all the deleted pics due to deleted accounts and image host services being dead/changing the way they work/... (fuck photobucket) I just didn't include pics that were too tiny, barely/not lolita (or some variation of it like ouji/kodona,FK,...).

What would you want me to archive for EGL?

>>9688901
Meetup photo posts please, preferably from around 2006-2009. If you can archive the Oregon meetup photos specifically that'll be really nice. Bless you, anon.

>>9688904
Will do!
I'm incredibly frustrated by photobucket's fuckery (and all the many broken links especially from the early posts). I thought about saving earlier but went "heh,later" and now I'm regretting.

>>9688911
It's alright, better late than never, even if Photobucket really did screw us over. Do what you can, your efforts are appreciated!

>>9688901
Maybe translations and tutorials? Most photos of these are broken tho.

>>9688889
>Last thread is autosaging
Why do people do this on cgl? We know it is autosaging, why else would you make this thread. Same with ''couldn't fine one in the catalog''.

>>9688901
>What would you want me to archive for EGL?
translations, scans and useful/interesting posts

>>9688915
Just in case people are still posting in the other thread not realising. It's sort of a habit.

>>9688913
I'm really annoyed for people like swdpunk and herajika that had really great outfits.
I can find them on google for some but their quality is low. Should I save them anyway?

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>>9688918
will do as well!

>>9688921
I say yes, better than having nothing at all.

>>9688915
Because people will throw a shitfit if you don't outline in triplicate why you made a new thread, so it's easier just to put it in the OP

>>9688901
If you use chrome, the Photobucket Hotlink Fix addon solves the photobucket problem.

>>9688926
I've never seen this

>>9688930
It used to happen a lot more a while back when people wouldn't realise that a thread was in autosage or if it was 2 or 3 posts away from it.
Sage for no contribution, let's keep this thread at least mildly on-topic, gulls.

>>9688929
Oh my god it worked! Thank you for telling me anon. I downloaded the embed fix extension that didn't work at all. Now I can archive more images in better quality, yay!

>>9688901
Hi anon, I'm studying to be an archivist as well but I honestly really want some actual real-world practice. If you ever need help I'd really appreciate it if you could contact me at my throwaway email even though I don't have a lot of experience. If you got it covered do you mind if you could recommend some readings or things I could do to become more comfortable with archiving programs?
>sage for obvious OT
>archiving and lolita sounds like my dream combo

I have a weird situation. I thought I was falling out of love with Lolita as a whole, but I think I actually just don't like petticoats anymore. I like literally everything else about the aesthetic, but for some reason petticoats and big poofy skirts aren't appealing to me as much any more. I go for very low poof and even high-waisted dresses with no petti more than anything else. I don't call it Lolita when I do that, just in case someone gets buttmad.

Is this very weird? Anyone else do this?

>>9688950
You sound much more qualified than me. I'm just a NEET (only temporary,due to reasons) so i decided i might as well be useful as much as possible while i'm at home!
I don't have anything special to recommend,i'm just uploading the pics and screens on pinterest so far (in different albums). And I wouldn't mind help! But I don't know how we would go about that

>>9688960
My favorite petticoat is very thin but I still call it lolita. Why should it only be okay for old school and casual to be low poof?

>>9688960
My favorite petticoat is very thin but I still call it lolita. Why should it only be okay for old school and casual to be low poof?

>>9688960
Have you seen Moitie's low-volume pettis? I don't go for a lot of poof either. I live in a crowded place and I like to be able to move around without worrying about bumping my frills into people or knocking things off shelves.

>>9688993
nayrt but I love Motie's petticoats so much, I even bought one for full price

my wardrobe is pretty tiny and this picture was swiped from google and isn't mine, but this baby blouse is probably my favorite item I own. I love everything I have, but for some reason I just.. this blouse is so precious to me. Actually 2 of my baby blouses are the best, the other being my oldschool baby babydoll blouse. I've considered buying one of the currently produced babydoll blouses but they aren't really the same to me for small reasons.

I came here to complain about something That I can't quite explain.

There's this girl in my comm that bought a load of dresses from Taobao from brands like Yolanda, Vcastle, Diamond Honey, souffle song etc. But she bought it all to resell with stupidly high prices and decided to rename the dresses with made up names. Now she sells:
> black happy pumpkin OP
> Chocolate is so delicious JSK
> Under the Sea Skirt

This makes me so mad and I don't even know why. I just feel like she knows nothing about the fashion and acts like an "intruder" to make money put of noobs.

>>9688889
i think my favourite item is my platforms. i cant pick a pair but i love that they get so many compliments when i post old-school coords.
im also really proud of some really older items that ive restored. got great deals on the price and brought them back to their former glory

>>9688892
ive always wondered, does it zip just at the top or does it zip open like an actual book? does that make it hard to use?
>>9688901
seconding meet up photos! and hand made! and if you find any candid looking shots...

anyone mind if i post some oldies from go go lolita chan? i have them all saved

>>9689038
At the top! Most of the stuff I use is long and thin so I kind of... file it? and it has an inside pocket I can put lipstick on or w/e. Overall pretty easy to use

>>9689034
So people have a harder time looking up the normal price

>>9689042
i want you to!

>>9689034
If you want to be petty you could comment on the posts with their lolibrary/taobao listing links to "help her provide accurate measurements for the dress". Her behaviour is shitty but I honestly doubt there is anything that can be done about it unless you want to straight up call her out on it.

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I wonder how much they pay

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>>9689077
They're just answering the OP prompt without linking back to the OP. I was momentarily confused too.

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>>9689012
I feel you I have one Baby blouse and I love it so much. The sleeves especially. I always loved their long bell sleeves with the lace and ribbons with a little elastic "puff" in the near middle of the sleeve it's so elegant and cute! I don't like huge peter pan collars though.

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>>9689042
Thanks for dumping,please go on! I love it, it takes me back

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>>9689097
glad you like it! took forever to save them but figured itd be nice to share!

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>>9688889
My rose stained glass skirt! It was the first piece of brand I ever bought and it totally changed how I thought about the fashion.

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i think this girl is gravelet from youtube

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sorry for that delay, was making dinner before i start my night shift! heres the rest

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What is it about old school lolita that makes it so nostalgic and real?
I think the lack of smartphones and selfies (to an extent) really helps, since most pictures ended up more scenic instead of just mirror shots.

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>>9689156
i think the types of fabric used and the general early 2000s hair and makeup make it feel really different from lolita today, nostalgia boner big time.

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>>9689042
You really should make a new thread if you're going to post this much, not everyone is interested

>>9689160
I feel like the hair especially is so different, no one is wearing a wig and it just looks so simple and normal? Normal as in suitable for everyday vs. a fancy hairstyle for an occasion.

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>>9689170
if anyone else has a problem ill just stop here.
>h-history isnt important anyway

>>9689175
i spent a lot of time saving these, theyre lolita related, its not the end of the world if the general actually has something going on for once. im gonna finish.

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Are there any pics of AP's Celestial JSK in pink? AP never provided them when the MTO reservation period occurred.

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>>9689077
Sorry, for some reason I didn't link the OP post. I was answering the question posted there.

>>9689089
Is this meta? I have a very similar meta dress (but in b/w) and honestly I never wear it much despite liking it... this really makes me want to get a bonnet and wear it... i'm inspired now, thanks for inadvertently giving life to my poor neglected meta dress

>>9689220
yeah go go lolita chan is a meta photo sharing, that dress in particular is a lucky pack dress

>>9689093
like this anon? Again, not my picture, but this is the reason I love my other baby blouse. the sleeves are so precious.

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>>9689222
Thanks anon! My dress was supposedly from a 2007 lucky pack too, so I'm assuming it's the same if not very similar. Thank you! I needed that inspiration

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>>9689226
i hope it gets some much needed love and wear!

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>>9689156
desu i think it's the less 'perfect' and less OTT coords. simple and cute, no crazy amounds of accessories or other things. Not everything is ornate and matching sets, it has a bit of a simpler feel.

>>9689183
meta lucky pack dress anon here, this is the same dress. thanks! I'm so inspired by seeing pictures of lolitas wearing it that I think I'll wear it tomorrow~

Didn't realize I posted in a dead thread.
>>9688511
Link? I don't have fb and Google takes me to their page with posts dated 2009.

>>9688921
I have a HQ version of that photo, anon, I have several of SWDPunks if you'd like more. I have several photos from daily lolita saved over the years.

>>9688901
Are you hosting your archive anywhere?

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>>9688993
Any chance I can see some comparison pics of the moitie petticoat? I'm also getting into low poof silhouettes and am super interested.

God, this thread reminds me why I love meta so much. Most of my wardrobe is old meta so this makes me so happy to see.

>>9689066
They don't.

>>9689175
Be more petty.

>>9689175
Sounds like a good use of your time. Please post more awkward pics of sweaty ugly people in bad make up then whine when no one cares.

>>9689261
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScufk-0tRd4qekjIe8H5UHEobum5l_3eYsd5Vv119ljUa2fjA/viewform

>>9689319
Thank you Anon!

thank you go go anon
this dump has been so refreshing. I think we all need a taste of some good, pure lolita history to wash away the past week

i feel like 95% of the coords in the dump could be improved with modern hair and makeup

>>9689366
"Modern hair" is usually just wigs, so no.

>>9689369
have fun with your ugly fried hair and makeupless face then i guess

>>9689372
>natural hair can't look good
Sorry anon, I'm sure you look great in your cosplay wigs. Just don't get salty when people ask if you're wearing a costume when you clearly are.

>>9689366
Disagree - I love a lot of these, it actually gives the impression that lolita can be worn as a day to day thing rather than getting all done-up for a special event.

I actually really love natural hair in lolita, as long as something is done with it and it looks nice. Sadly, i'm super hypothyroid and have shitty hair, so I feel I have to wear a wig or I just look like a thin-haired freak. makes me so sad. I long for the days I could wear natural hair with my lolita

>>9689378
>implying these pictures are examples of good looking natural hair

>>9689380
i think it's the complete lack of makeup and attention to hair that seems off-putting to me

even with some minimal work they could look loads better, even without getting done up

>>9689390
Some are bad, I agree, but many of these girls have perfectly nice hair.

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>>9689308
just for yall

>>9689439
honestly i dont see why anyone can complain about me posting some awesome pictures. these are part of why lolita is what it is today, if you cant appreciate that youre probably n e w f a g

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>>9689441
That's a huge 180, and I'm just some lurker. Meta is awesome but you should just put everything in a folder and post the link rather than exploding this general.

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i left for several hours and the general didnt get any new discussion outside of some bait about wigs. when this one gets filled up a new one starts. we wont one day run out of the ability to make a new general

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I like these, if anything I wish the pics were bigger. Thank you for posting, anon!

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i wish they were larger too, i guess because most were taken on low quality digital cameras this is about as good as it gets with quality

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leyla fashion on youtube. sadly she doesnt seem to release lolita content anymore.

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>>9689437
This is one of my dream dresses so I LOVE seeing it so much

>>9689493
i saw it recently on fril i think? or y!j... i saw it recently i swear

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>>9689492
YES, this is the one I have. So glad to see it!

>>9689495
I saw it on LM earlier this year but had to pay off some bills from getting really sick, alas.

>>9689503
im so glad you saw it, when i came up to it in my folder i was like "yessss very good"

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>>9689506
Thanks for all these great pictures. All of my wardrobe is fairly old, so I tend to get really excited seeing old school lolitas. Gives me new inspiration and renews my love of the fashion. I recently looked through scans of all the GLB and felt the same sort of happiness I felt when I first found lolita.

I do occasionally find newer dresses that are pretty, but nothing really draws me in like the older lolita aesthetic.

I know some people bitched about the pic spam, but I think it's great.

>>9689510
thanks! i feel the same way, something about the comm back then had a really different almost magical feeling. ive been collecting the oldest pieces i can find for a long time now and restoring damaged ones and it gives me purpose

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I noticed a dress I liked on LM & the listing was expiring quite soon, I asked the seller a few questions about shipping/sizing hoping she would reply before the end of the listing, she hasn't though. Would it be rude to message her and ask whether she would be relisting it? That was a few days ago & LM says she's seen my messages.

Dump anon you're doing the work of god. Saved several of your pics.

I only own Baby and AP but this dump makes me really want some META.
It also reminded me how much I loved the "old" lolita style.

>>9689522
No, I've done that a couple of times after things have expired and people are always willing to relist for you.

>>9689542
Do it! Meta is my second favorite brand, their older pieces are especially nice.

>>9689279
I'll be hosting my archive on pinterest on a special account with a file for every month of every year
For both DL and EGL. It's the simplest thing I could think of and it's going well so far!

>>9689274
Oh thank you anon,much appreciated! But I downloaded the photobucket extension that retrieves the pics. Though,your help would be greatly appreciated if I can't find some of them.

As much as I love love love the true old-school style and the pics make me really nostalgic, I'd feel way too frumpy in a lot of those outfits. They look good because they're of the time period, not because they're good now.

>>9688892
I have the shoulder-strap version. I've got to say, it automatically turns you elegant, and works very well with normie clothing

>>9689148
those pictures are so inspiring to wear lolita, so much more than the usual CoF stuff. They seem to be really enjoying themselves doing their usual stuff in frills and look much more natural on pictures. Thank you anon.

>>9689546
Not necessarily, I think it's a personal thing. My style is very simple and suited for daily wear and it looks good on me, and I can't imaging wearing a printed, heavily accessorized, heavily made-up, picture-perfect coord without feeling incredibly uncomfortable, in more ways than one. It all depends on what feels and looks good on you, you know?

>>9689482
pretty much because she got a kid a few years back. she owned the store Mfashion, but it pretty much died out because of the rise of online ordering

>>9689274
I remember her being featured in one of the English GLBs!

>>9689513
Thanks for the dump, but you really should have made a thread for it. The general is for discussion and containment for discussion that doesn't need a thread for it. Your dump would have been better in it's own thread as now when it's archived it'll be impossible to find with the search.

Anyone knows which shops on ebay do 11.11?

>>9689175
It would have been much better to have a separate thread for this so other things don't get buried

Look - it's Kelly.

>>9689663
kek

People say WunderWelt is great for cheap lolita but i cant find anything that is actually good without it being 200$

>>9689666
What specifically are you looking for/ consider good?

>>9689669
Im looking for a good pattern and non-conflicting colors theres alot of black with pink prints or just overall awful prints. Im fine with non-over the top sweet and classical though my budget is super low 130$ at most

>>9689666
You can easily find brand for under 200, but you aren’t going to find stuff that is cheaper than it’s worth second hand.

>>9689666

Because I took all the good stuff.

>>9689666
WunderWelt is one of the most expensive Japanese secondhand shops. I barely ever buy from them desu.

>>9689675
What's a good one?

>>9689441
Because this is the lolita general and not the "archived image dump" thread. I get what you're doing, I appreciate it, I've saved a lot of these images, but at the same time it seems even more newfag to not recognize when something warrants its own thread and detracts from the purpose of one thread. By this point, the thread only becomes about these images because other messages get easily lost under them. Plus - they would stay on the board longer if they were in their own thread instead of one of the faster moving threads on this board. At this rate, the images you're taking all this time to dump will just make the thread hit the bump limit and die by today - rather than if you just made your own thread exclusively to discuss and dump these images and it'd probably last a few days on its own.

This isn't a lolita general anymore. This is like on old /a/ when people (fuck you Tohno-chan and crew) used to just image bomb threads with the purpose of killing them, even if they were with relevant images. It's nice, and the people in the thread definitely appreciate the images, but the thread isn't really supposed to be an image dump.

Just my two cents on it, I guess. I still appreciate you dumping all these old images and thank you for going through the time to even dig them all up, but I feel this would definitely have been better for all parties, yourself included (since all the time and effort you're putting into uploading these will allow more people to see) if you just did this in your own separate thread. Hell, we have Oldschool threads all the time, it wouldn't even be out of place.

>>9689671
I frequently see innocent world on there for under $100 but they’re usually more plain/ non print.

>>9689680
True but >>9689675 is still correct, WW has great finds but they tend to be more expensive compared to other sources, especially considering the condition of the items. Many of them are clearly damaged or stained while still being more than 70$.

>>9689676
Closet Child is my go to, otherwise I just stalk auctions and fril/mercari.
Not saying WW is expensive in general, but it's definitely more expensive than other options.

>>9689070
another way to do hover loli

Sorry for the random post, this is for the girls in here who want to have children in the future, if you don't want or like children, don't worry about answering.

If/when you have children, say you have a daughter, would you find it cute to make and buy lolita like dresses/outfits for her? What are your thoughts?

>>9689072
Why would you wear pink shoes with a blue dress? Was that ever not considered ita?

>>9689699
The colors certainly don't match but iirc it wasn't considered that much of a big deal. It's still not glaringly ita though.

>>9689699
Looks fine to me because of the shade of pink. You can be a bit creative with colors and still have a good outfit.

>>9689089
The socks ruin this for me

>>9689102
I wish more lolitas would carry stuffed animals

>>9689127
Has anyone saved the images from lolitasnap.com?

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>>9689234
I think people are much more critical of other lolitas now. If we dressed like that today we would get shit on on cgl and even get some concrit on CoF.

>>9689715
I gotta be honest, a lot of those outfits look incomplete and thus pretty bad, thats understandable since this was a different time period of course and it wasn't really established yet I don't think. A lot of it strikes me as girls mix matching lolita wear with clothes from their every day wardrobe. I'm not a fan of the super pastel giant bright wigs with pony heads in the hair but a lot of those pictures were really fucking awkward looking lmao

>>9689187

The onepiece had a picture of it in pink. I'm not certain that they even bothered making a prototype/model jsk in pink that they can photograph.

>>9689699
Wot? That looks totally fine since it's sweet. Blue and pink is a popular (and imo,very cute) color combo. It doesn't "match" since the dress doesn't have pink accents nor does the bonnet but it certainly isn't ita

>>9689160
What make-up?

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>>9689485
This isn't lolita

>>9689675
I personally find Closet Child way more expensive than WunderWelt. You often see prints under 10000 yen on WW, that never happens on CC

>>9689859
I think that's because Closet Child tends to list the most popular/recent prints, while WW is more random.

>>9689546
I agree with >>9689568
Wearing modern lolita makes me feel pretty overdone. it feels more like a costume, and isn't nearly as practical in general than old school. Old school actually looks pretty great on me and it's super easy to wear to work and school.

I think old school can look just as good on anyone as modern lolita. Just take care of yourself and make sure You look good and you won't look frumpy. Wash your face and hair, do your makeup, style your hair, make sure your clothes fit. It's easy.

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The simpler hairstyling and minimal accessories and makeup makes it all feel so much more accessible, more like street fashion and less like it was just put together for a photoshoot. Now (at least in my comm) it's all circle lenses, false lashes and obvious wigs and people act like the meet is a waste of time if they didn't get a social media-worthy picture of their coord. Maybe this is just nostalgia glasses on my part though - I was still in school around ~2007 and everything from back then feels happier, warmer and more comfortable.

>>9689698
I'd probably sew up some frilly dresses for her but I don't think they'd be recognisable as lolita more than just cute frilly little girl dresses. Even if I were to make matching mommy-daughter outfits I think people would think I dressed myself to match her rather than the other way around.

>>9689970
No offense but this is bullshit. Brands release practical and basic stuff all the time. There are plenty of brands that still have that ''''old school'''' aesthetic too. Lolita is pretty much timeless unless you focus on AP and Baby.

Cheap petticoat recommendation for a Kira Kira Parfait One piece? This is going to be my first dress and i wish not to mess it up.

>>9690032
No one said that brands never release simple stuff anymore though. That's far from the point being made here, please read more carefully.

>>9690032
I didn't mean just the clothing. The whole aesthetic. As >>9689982 said, it's all pretty overdone. girls get harped on all day for wearing natural hair, even if it looks fine. If you're not super matchy-matchy with your whole coord you have people screaming shoehorned this and that or people calling it 'ita'. girls can't even wear decent minimal makeup without people saying they need more, or they can't wear prescription glasses without people saying they should take them off/buy new ones/etc. It's not really a street fashion at that point, it's a costume. 'if you're not like us you're an ita!'

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>>9690051
You are complaining about modern lolita in general and acting like old-school is superior, that's how you come across. If you just mean what people post in CoF and other social media, that's something else. I don't have a reason to post my daily coords in CoF or anywhere else, and I think many people feel the same. I only see my friends post there when they went to a meet-up (which is an opportunity to wear something more elaborate) or when they just got a dream dress.

>>9690051
They have always bitched about ita's, it sounds like you personally just didn't read about it back then. Maybe stop looking at ita and cof threads if it bothers you this much.

>>9690051
They've always bitched about ita's, it sounds like you personally just didn't read about it back then. Maybe stop looking at ita and cof threads or don't go to cgl at all if it bothers you.

>>9690060
It doesn't bother me at all, I was explaining why I find the old school aesthetic much more pleasing. It was much more simple and creative in general. Not saying there aren't modern lolitas that aren't OTT or creative, there are. It just seemed much more free-form back then than it does now.

There's not a Lolita help thread, so I hope it's okay to ask here.
I just got a MLT hard tulle petti and when I wear it the dress looks lumpy, like the poof is not equaly distributed. Is there a way to combat this or do I just have to manually maneuver the tulle so it's equal poof on all sides?

>>9690087
There is so much more variety now. I'm sorry you're apparently surrounded by people who call you ita when you don't perfectly match everything or tell you to tell more make-up, but that doens't mean lolita is a costume now.

>>9690087
There is so much more variety now. I'm sorry you're apparently surrounded by people who call you ita when you don't perfectly match everything or tell you to wear more make-up, but that doens't mean lolita is a costume now.

Couldn't find a stupid question thread, so I'm asking here

Is it rude to message someone who listed an item I want on lacemarket and had the listing expire and the item left unsold?

>>9690142
Not at all. I'm sure they would be glad to know someone is interested and that their item will actually sell.

>>9690120
well for one I'm a lonelita and don't post my outfits, but nice try.

>>9690146
So you are talking about the online community?

>>9690120
this >>9690146 isn't even me.
I actually don't get called an ita, at least not to my face. I have no idea what people say behind my back, but I doubt any of them talk shit about it. I do my best to look nice at all times. Even normies tend to like what I wear (I wear lolita daily, to work and school, which also means wearing it to and from those places, and in other places aka shopping, etc). I should have picked my words more carefully, as I honestly do not think lolita IS a costume, no matter how OTT it is. To me it just feels like more of a costume. On myself. If other girls love it, then good for them! it's great to feel comfortable and happy in a fashion you enjoy. It's just not for me.

When did the shit posting get so bad here? Sure, we've always had it to some extent, but like half the lolita threads have been totally derailed by dumb bait about fitness, reproduction, etc. and everyone falls for it instead of just ignoring and reporting.
Is there any decent online community for lolita at this point? Everyone seems more concerned with arguing about how many kids they are or aren't going to have than actually talking about fashion.
I'm sorry if this isn't the place, but I just got back into lolita after a break, and the state of cgl is fucking depressing.

>>9689540
i still have all of the USA entries but i got lazy and didnt want to argue with people who werent interested. next old school thread if you ask for me to come back ill dump those there!

>>9690195
>everyone falls for it
I think that's the problem, gulls these days take the bait too easily. I report everything but before a comment gets deleted, several people have already replied to it. It's so dumb.

>>9690203
I don't know if you just don't know how to do it or something, but it really is better to make a new thread yourself and just call it ''go go lolita chan thread'' or whatever you want. Put it as the subject not in the name field.

>>9689470
It's because of the way they're saved, not because of being on older digital cameras.

>>9689546
admittedly i like the frumpy look. it goes well with the angry streetsnap face. i hate new lolita, i could never wear it. i wear ott sweet but after that sort of era everything is just a blur of muted pastels and costume accessories to me
>>9689623
if you search the archive site for "go go lolita chan" itll come up, it doesnt need to be in the thread title.
>>9689678 i wouldve started a new thread if it had been brought up before i started the dump, but when i was half way through i was not interested in going back and uploading them all again. its still on topic no matter what you personally decide. i dont see how its fair to have thread after thread of current lolita style and try to shove older looks into a containment old school thread, especially since many outfits i posted arent even old school.

>>9689838
people like this are the reason old style needs to be discussed in the general. the first one is casual the second is aristo. aristo still falls under egl umbrella.

>>9690210
dude im not going to do that because id have to reupload it all to that thread when im already done uploading them here?

>>9690229
Misako is a lolita. Lolita is on topic. Shall I post 120 Misako coords here? Some people don't know who she is so she needs to be discussed in the general. She has old coords too so lolita history!

>>9690233
fucking go for it man. id personally love to see how her coordination has changed over the years. stay mad or whatever.

>>9690233
Misako Aoki deserves her own thread.

>>9690232
Maybe read your own comment that was replied to. She means the US entries.

>>9690240
there arent enough us entries for their own thread. im just too lazy to post the rest because people keep bitchin and the USA ones are mostly fat itas anyway (not to be biased, a lot of the mexico ones were too i just didnt save them)

>>9690246
Why didn't you save mexico?

>>9690251
i saved and uploaded the good ones
there were a few countries with girls who uploaded cat ear selfies with no outfit even in the picture, those i left out for obvious reasons

So a lot of old livejournal comms have moved to dreamwidth. I wonder why lolitas/egl haven't done the same? Since the lj comm became less active I feel like we share less media and translations than before.

>>9690276
when everyone moved to facebook the media/translations/caring stopped. its trendy to yell "its just clothes i dont care about the subculture" right now

>>9690285
I didn't move to facebook, I'm just not organised and social enough to mod a dreamwidth community myself

>>9690285
>it's trendy to yell "its just clothes i dont care about the subculture"

that shit is so annoying. what's even more annoying is when people completely deny that any kind of culture actually exists within the lolita community. it doesn't mean that everybody is a lifestyler, but c'mon.

>>9690290
i doubt anyone would move over to dreamwidth even if you did

>>9690276
I hadn't even heard of that site before. At this point, I think it's too late.
It's not really LJ that's keeping the old egl from working; the online community, and online communities in general, has simply changed and splintered. If a new site was all we needed, Lacebook and all the other attempts probably would have been more successful.

>>9690294
>>9690302
I don't think many people need to go there, egl used to be really small and slow too. If there's just a small group that shares information or other stuff every now and then that would be enough. I have posted scans here and on tumblr sometimes but I didn't like it that much compared to lj so I stopped doing that, and on facebook I wouldn't know where to post them.

Anyone else think it's weird that they seperated lolita brands by ''lolita'' and ''classical''?

>>9689390
They could have worn make up just a small amount.

>>9690315
Also ahcahcum as girly...I haven't seen the magazine yet but it would've been better without those 3 categories. I don't like anything about the cover. I wish they would've just made a new volume for Eternita. That pouch is cute af though.

>>9689859
It does happen if it's old or unpopular

>>9690315
wow, her hair is super messy looking in that pic. if it were anyone else it wouldn't look good at all.

>>9690366

Ah, the wonders of photoshop. If other people shooped away their flyaway hair so that the top of their head at least lies flat they'd be equally fine.

>>9690366
Messy hair looks really good on me

>>9689698
I would be very careful not to associate an actual little girl with the term lolita. Her comfort would be first on my list of priorities, therefore clothes she can easily move in and run and climb trees if she wanted to.

If she wanted frilly dresses, I'd get or make her frilly dresses, especially if she'd want to be just like mommy, because that would be sweet. But I wouldn't throw a shit fit if she ripped or stained them while playing or eating.

Thread is saging, but I'm wondering if there are any kind of "zombie" style prints around?

I'm recently struggling a lot with wanting to wear lolita and finding it kind of dumb and weird looking. I most hate my shoes, especially ones with bows on them. Also puff sleeves, ew. The dresses look great in my closet, and I still like most other people's coords. I just find that whenever I wear lolita or even cute clothes I look like a weird fat crazy person.
I'm struggling because I'm trying to do a wardrobe clear out, and my lolita clothes takes up a good 80% of my closet space but is worn less than three times a year now.
I'm having some weird BDD/ED shit going on that I'm pretty sure is contributing.

Anyone else had issues with this before? Any advice?

secretsss

>>9689698
LMFAO why on earth would you ever think anyone wants a little hellspawn? Gtfo with your old fashion bs don't bring another disaster into the world let alone cord it
ENJOY THE SAGGY TITS AND STRETCHMARKS

>>9690526
wanna know how i know youre a man shitposting?

>>9690501
when I first started wearing lolita it was a bit jarring to me as well. huge peter pan collars and puffed sleeves felt so awkward. but I did it anyway and once I started getting used to seeing myself in it, I actually started liking it a lot. I went from super 90s goth to oldschool lolita (i got into lolita in the early 2000s) so it was pretty drastic of a change, and it did take a while to get used to. just keep at it anon. You can also find blouses without puffed sleeves, and more elegant cuts and things. But I think once you get more used to seeing yourself it won't be so bad.

>>9690501
wear simpler shoes and cardigans without puffed sleeves? work your way gradually into it?

>>9689698
I'd only buy clothes that my children choose for themselves. If they want to wear something similar to lolita, sure, but I would want for them to come to that conclusion themselves instead me directly influencing them with my own biases.

>>9689675
I agree. Every single thing I've liked on WW I eventually bought way cheaper on Closet Child or auctions.

>>9690494
It isn't saging.pic related is all I can think of for now

>>9689095
hahaha love it

Anyone know what happened to inspire this post? Tbh I just started to block everyone who posts taobao.

>>9690733
In the comments it says more. I always thought those people are just using Lolita Updates for marketing, why should people be grateful for that?

>>9690501

>The dresses look great in my closet, and I still like most other people's coords. I just find that whenever I wear lolita or even cute clothes I look like a weird fat crazy person.

Honestly this sounds more like you’ve lost yourself, and you don’t really know what you actually want to wear or what looks good on you. Probably worth taking a step back from lolita to really figure out who you are and what you actually enjoy wearing. Maybe start with photos of yourself, not a pinterest board of other people. Try to figure out what suits your own body shape, your skintone, what colours and styles you actually like having ON you instead of what you like looking at on other people.

You can learn to appreciate things that look nice without wanting to be/own/wear them. Barbies are nice, but I wouldn’t want to be one, my feet would die, and so would my waist. You can like the way other people look in lolita without wanting to wear it yourself (conversely, also acknowledge that just because you don’t want to wear it doesn’t mean it doesn’t look good).

Once you’ve sorted out who/what style you are, it’ll be easier to decide what to do with your lolita. If you really don’t enjoy it anymore, just sell it all off. If you only like the meetups, sell it off but keep one or two outfits just for those 3 meetups a year (cycle out one old outfit for a new one every year if you’re worried about only having one/two outfits). There’s a lot of substyles in lolita, peter pan collars and shoes with bows can be avoided entirely, and even puffed sleeves aren’t mandatory (if you do lace skivvies, cutsews or knit boleros). But definitely come back after you’ve figured out yourself, so you don’t get lost looking at what it looks like on other people, not yourself.

Anyone know where I can buy suspenders for a gothic and sweet wardrobe? Have brands ever released any?

>>9689612
She also got fed up with the comm after some drama.

Is peppermint fox worth the price as a western indie brand? The new print that was just announced is really nice.

>>9690778
What drama?

When is CC gonna post the god damn secrets cmon

>>9690784
What are you talking about

>>9690779
I feel like they are somewhat basic like ETC or Leur Getter but they don't have as nice fabric and they always use the same cuts for their dresses which is kind of boring. Only buy from them if you are into the basic otome style or if it's okay to pay a little more for supporting western brands. They are definitely one of the better western indie brands though.

>>9690787
>>9685665

>>9690781
She organized the Kawaii Weekend, but the second edition got canceled because of low ticket sales or money issues. People were being mean on CGL, she got upset and left the comm. I believe there also was some other drama, but I wasn’t very active in the comm at that time, so I can’t give all the deets.
You should browse through archives of the Lolita comm thread for more info.

What happened to MBok? Did Mercari’s popularity take all the sellers away? No one is listing new items, and the items that are on it won’t sell.

>>9689508

OMG, HER.
I guess this is before she scammed people.

>>9690790
thanks, anon. I'll have a think about if it's worth the price or not but it's nice to know their quality is consistent at least.

>>9690315
I just want my GLB sewing patterns BAAAAACCCCKKK

>>9690789

>>9690766
like for ouji? suspenders aint gon be cute over a blouse skirt combo unless you find wider ones with a ruffle or something, maybe make a pair?

>>9690817
deets? who is this

>>9689111
It is