/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

That cute bunny suit someone mentioned was on Dealer's Den is also on Furbuy. I don't understand why people think they can have multiple auctions for the same item on multiple platforms. But neither site seems to have any real moderation so I actually tend to see this happen a lot.

>>9668783
yeah it seems like it could backfire and get someone made real easy

>>9668786
mad*

>>9668783
That’s bad form.

why do you guys need 3 threads going on in the catalog at the same time?
don't you think this is kind of spamming the board?

>>9668803
Not our fault the busiest threads on cgl are about fursuits. :^)

>>9668803
Once we hit the picture and reply limit there’s not much else we can do. Hide the threads.

1990

>>9668803
>3 threads going
2 of those threads have hit image limit and are just dead and floating in the catalog. You should probably download 4chanx or something similar so you can filter threads.

>>9668808
oh, I see, I guess fursuiters consider the board to be a contest they need to "win" by knocking other threads off the catalog
good to know I guess

>>9668832
Why is that the conclusion you would come to, what the fuck.

>>9668837
the hostile attitude and the :^) face are a good start, especially when they're in response to a fairly innocuous question.
It's not fun to have your threads constantly bumped off the catalog when a general thinks they need multiple threads to spam pictures in.
It also goes with the fact that people think a high number of posts and a high thread count mean everything that's weird.

Overall, it really just seems like you're out to shove your fetish in other people's faces and makes as many threads as possible so you can say "fuck the people who don't like what I like :^)".

>>9668843
Pretty sure
>Not our fault the busiest threads on cgl are about fursuits. :^)
was supposed to be cheeky, not malicious. In what part of 4chan does :^) mean anything other than "I'm not being serious"?

>>9668843
You literally just asked why we need 3 threads and we told you why. We have ongoing conversations about suits and construction not just spamming pictures. Sorry you're this mad about carpet costumes.

We aren't shoving it anyone's face you came here out of your own will and are choosing to treat this like a competition.

>>9668843

This anon though.

>>9668843
(nayrt) jeez anon, salty much? The fur threads reach the limit fairly quickly, it's not like they're making multiple threads at a time without reaching the limit. If you're looking for threads to complain about, bitch about the "bad makeup/wig/whatever" threads that contribute nothing

>>9668846
>Image of what appears to be a japanese fursuit taken at a japanese fursuit meet in japan
>Uploaded to the internet at a competent resolution
What sorcery is this? Can we have more of this please?

>>9668843
Would love to design a fursona for you, anon.

This is apparently a Target mask.

>>9668843
Oh we are sorry to bump out your sweet lolita age Play fetish threads, go cry to your daddy you need a diaper change salty-chan

>>9668851
The kemono community is well known for perma deleting content so I've been saving for years. Some of these images are still public while others aren't. I know there's a lot more they keep private but I take what I can get.

This was my first fursuit and it's a german shepherd. I tilted my head down so not the best pose with it. I'm aware I need to give it a trim and I learned alot making the whole damn thing. I have sewing/pattern drafting experience so that wasn't an issue. Carving was an adventure. I'll definitely be adjust pieces of this and making it better.

>>9668868
I would like to note that my tail is there. I was wagging it when the photo was taken so it's off to my side.

>>9668868
Nice first suit anon. How long did it take you?

If I recall correctly, this suit has a phone where the eye is, letting it blink. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baCijn7Y8JU

I hope that anon felt silly for realizing we're just a continuing thread. Do we need to put we're a general in the op?

>>9668874
The head took me the longest, probably a good 3-4 months of me just stopping, checking reference photos, and adjusting. I watched alot of youtube videos, checked out other fursuits, and just tried to research as much as possible. I also help run a con so that ate up alot of my time. The body, legs, feet and hand paws took me about 2 months and I literally just worked on them every single chance I got. I'd bring it over to friends' houses and just handsew/pattern while chatting.

>>9668879

>Snufflepup

I thought there was a rule against murrsuits. Cutie though.

>>9668887
Oh, what a bummer!
Do you have proof though? That’s such a great MM suit.

>>9668896

There is a very lewd video on p-hub of her stripping to her bare skin in it.

>>9668887
>murrsuit
Oh god I hugged her at HCFC this year

Hey I want to thank the Anon that suggested putting wire in the ears. You saved my butt!

>email 3 different makers with questions about their suits not answered in their FAQs
>2 weeks later and not a single email back
I get they're probably busy but jeez

Kill yourself

>>9668887
>>9668899
I, thankfully, can't find the video, or anything like it. She likes to pose kinda lewd with her suit, but it seems clean.

>>9668950
what is this?? it's super cute

>>9668896
anon I just want to let you know as someone who's been shunned for posting an apparent murrsuit, not everybody knows x suit is a murrsuit.
I tend to stick out of that
(not the same anon as you replied to but i felt the need to mention)

>>9669046
meant to reply to >>9668887
mb.

anyone plan on getting/making a suit soon?
I'm commissioning a new head next month and I'm really excited!

>>9669033
I'm not sure if your asking what animal it is or where its from. But! it is the fursuit I'm making, my first attempt at one. She is candy monster pup names Lotte Pop!

I could post her ref if anyone wants to see it/if people are okay with that.

>>9669028
Sigh.

>>9669058
ew

Kinda thinking of getting a sunny valley suit, what do you guys think of them?

>>9669057
I'd love to see her ref, she looks super cute anon.

>>9668899
We're all naked under clothes :^)

>>9669051
Got one being made next year, what are you planning for yours, anon?

>tfw still no fursuiting horror stories

>>9668950
You're welcome

>>9668950
omg So cute
Do you have a picture of your character or anything? Like a drawing?

>>9669119
They're admitted thieves who reverse engineered a fursuit of someone else's to "heavily reference" the leg pattern and tend to rush their suits near the deadline so. I guess if you don't mind all that, they're decent? They claim they don't use the pattern anymore but I don't believe that lol

>>9668950
So cute! It's really coming along nicely, anon.

Torn between either making a really adorable kemono dragon design for myself, or a really badass lava dragon.

>>9669301
Oh, that's too bad.. their style really suited my character but that really rubs me the wrong way..

>>9669325
Yeah, this was semi-recent (my memory is failing me, maybe last year) but they bought Arito’s Dorito suit and soon after there was a noticeable change in their digitigrade leg styles. Apparently they even raised the price because of it. People called them out and even Arito approached them where they admitted to the ‘heavy referencing’/copying. Dorito is now owned by Syber but it doesn’t really change what SVC did wrong. Wasn’t so much the referencing as it was them profiting off of someone else’s work and claiming it as their own

>>9669173
>>9669247
>>9669304
Ahhhhh thank you guys~ I won't lie, its been a lot of trial and error to get her to this point.

Her reference for those who wanted to see it.

>>9669421
OH my goshhh anon she's so lovely!! Beautiful art too!

>>9669421
this is v cute

>>9669421

Your colour scheme and theme work excellently.

>>9669398
So now Dorito is a potential murrsuit :(

Speaking of Dorito, is there anyone who does expressions similar to his? A lot of makers do this sameface wide open mouth smile which i'm not a fan of desu. Even the grumpy suits i've seen are like that and the mouths are always really long.
Do you think it's harder to breathe wearing him cause of how his mouth is closed-ish?

>>9669421
Wow I'm excited to see this finished!

>>9669058
>went looking for murryporn
>mad that you found it
lmao you guys are great

>>9668797
Faputa is cute! Has anyone made a Nanachi suit yet?

>>9669670
I don't think you comprehend what the conversation was about or you didn't read the thread, either way you're an idiot.

>>9669187
ooh neat! yourself or by somebody?
getting a Yamishizen head myself!

>>9669472
why did they have to ruin the suit with that ugly hair. ;_;

>>9669741
I like the hair.

Really impressive first suit and they said they were going to possibly take commissions. I would totally get one from them.

>>9669739
ye, I'm getting a neopet species made by elbi in the spring! very looking forward to it, bori are my favorite species

>>9669735
>not tagged as her or titled as such
could have only been found browsing the fursuit porn tag is all i'm saying

>>9669765
And? That part is irrelevant, they were talking about if someone is a murrsuiter and where there was proof. No one was mad that murrporn exists just that some people thought someone didnt do that and had hugged the person in question and was then disgusted to find out it was true.

I dont think anyone here hates that the shit exists (well maybe some do) but what they REALLY hate is that the fucking faggots take their filthy semen suits out onto the con floor and hug kids and touch things and are just a walking furcondom in general.

Actually that should be the new term for them, semen-suiters.

>>9669752
it'd look nice if it weren't too.. outwards? I don't know, it's just too bulky/massive. v good suit though.

>>9669756
yess more neopets suits!! i really want to get a lupe or gelert one day! I might try it as my first suit I make

>>9669765
When only one person has owned the suit, it’s pretty easy to conclude who made porn in it.

We don’t post many Hoofers here.

>>9668877
I am surprised that people don't know that this is a service that Amanojaku offers for commissions in general, QLB_R is the staff member who does them.

Another example
https://twitter.com/QLB_R/status/850294271806550017

>>9669785
Are the screens phone screens or is it more like those programmable do it yourself screens you buy?

>>9669795
They are indeed smartphones using android.

>>9669776
ooh I'd love to see a gelert with their floppy ears

>>9669798
That is the coolest thing ever but I bet its super pricey.

Are there any “bad” or “cringe” Japanese suits? This one isn’t even bad, just newbie level.

>>9669859
Just like how it is with cosplay, they won't post photos of bad fursuits but some will pop up at auction sites once a while.

>>9669469
https://twitter.com/howl_yeah/ might be up your street
P.S. sorry for the late response

>>9669859
Everyone starts some where

This is one of my favorite suits out there. I was hoping to commission Qarrezel, but she's too difficult to get a slot from. Maybe I could make my own vixen suit someday, but after I get more experience suitmaking. Spyro comes first.

>>9669881
>On hiatus
Welp.

They look so similar to wildlife suits.

>>9669889
they did once make a collab suit once

>>9669881
>>9669889
>>9669899
Looks like they're gonna be another one of those "we make premades only, expect to pay 7k+" makers

I'm kind of surprised we don't see more animalcrossing themed fursuits.

>>9669948

>>9669881
Really great suits, but the expressions seem a bit too.. I don't know how to explain it, strong? Dorito's expression is a lot softer and I think him having a smaller mouth adds to that.

>>9669909
I hate this trenddddd
Designosauro is going down that route too and it's really upsetting. they're one of my favorite makers.
I understand people not wanting to do commissions but man, it's like ALL the makers I'm interested in is doing it now.

>>9669421
i'm not into furrys but gosh dang this is soooo cute, the fursuit is going to be super cute

>>9670086
At one hand, it is nice because it reduces the amount of fursuiters eith eyecancer OCs but on the other hand, makers see how people throw money at K-Line for shitty recolors with questionable quality and think they can afford to do the same.

On another note, K-Line is already starting to make the first "Flower" now while they still didn't even finish the 1st, 2nd and 3rd wave.

>>9670114
yeah I really do understand it. I like most of the designs. I just hate that since they become so unavailable, the prices skyrocket. I'd rather they just like. take normal commissions for 'natural' designs or have pre-made commission designs? I don't know.

>>9670114
The problem with only having pre-made designs is creative differences between suits is going to drop even farther than it already is to having every suit be even more of a recolour of each other then they already are. Injecting the commissioners preferences into the mix helps alleviate that greatly if the maker's willing to put forth the effort to try new things. One or two people creating designs, even if they're actively trying not to, can only go so far.

Person asking about digi legs from last thread here. >>9668185, I never heard back from you in that or this thread.

>>9670132
Fuuuck that was me, I'm sorry dude here you go.
This is just a rough outline of what you're going to want to do if you want those legs as accurate as possible. The most important thing I can emphasize is that these need to be as strong as possible. If you think they're strong enough? They're not. Double the thickness of any areas that are gonna take stress like that join between metal pieces that are behind your heel and where the metal bar meets the little foot-claw platform. Just really, really reinforce those spots. And then once you've gotten this part made and you feel like you can wear them safely then you can add on top of them with foam for the actual costume part. The claw feet you can just spray the metal with spray insulation foam and carve it into the shape you want.

I know this is super limited in what I'm explaining but there's alot here to cover and I'm not sure what you know and don't know; if you have more questions just ask but hopefully that'll get you started.

what do ya'll think about MoreFurLess suits?
I really like the adjustable eyebrows/eyelids. I think they were the firsts to do this stuff? I don't know! but they're opening soon and I was considering getting something from them.

>>9670175

>>9670175
I don't like their digitigrade padding and sometimes their proportions look weird desu
Thats just my opinion but if you like their style then go for it

>>9669739
Random anon but I'm also getting a mini partial by Yamishizen. I enjoy his style a lot.

>>9670224
Now that is a nice suit.

I need a good base to build my head on. Not a fursuit base I mean a mannequin human head. All the wig ones are absurdly rubbish. I'm also in the EU so shipping costs. Any suggestions?

>>9670224
sauce? this would fit my character so well

>>9670275
>>9670224
nvm, just remembered it was phoenixnest

Thoughts on Lemonbrat?

>>9670300
there's been a lot of issues with them lately.

i know someone who commissioned them a body + feet for a partial they had bought off someone else. they initially said it'd take 2-3 months.. it ended up taking 5, with absolutely 0 wip shots and little to no communication.
when they finally sent her the commission, they forgot to mail the feet paws with it.

i own a partial from them, and while i love it, i definitely don't recommend them anymore. they have a lot more people working for them and yet their quality and communication has dropped significantly.
with that said, if you want to buy a pre-made from them and like it- go for it! their vision and ventilation is wonderful, i can suit for 5 hours without needing a break which is pretty much a godsend. you can fit glasses inside too which is a big plus too

>>9670300
Mixed bag, I like some of their suits but they're one of the biggest offenders of sameface

>>9670347
They'd look better if they weren't so bobbleheady desu

>>9670356
agree. they look better as fullsuits. I really love my head, but man. i'm 4'10" and i look awful with how large they made him.

>>9670241
Find an avtual mannequin head from a physical store (there are stores where stores buy this stuff from), preferably male since mannequins have smaller heads than humans but males are a bit bigger. I found mine for 15€ and then also filled it a bit with sand so it is heavy and doesnt fall over.

>>9670359
Is that your partial in the picture? Really cute!

>>9670369
aw, thanks!! he's my big bobblehead

>>9670380
First time i've seen a Lemonbrat head that didn't look weird from the side

>>9670384
I altered the head a little bit actually to make the head more presentable from the side, that's probably why!
they do this weird thing with the dimples(? I guess. the area right where the mouth ends and creates the smiley look). they added some sort of shading almost to bring out the dimples more. it looks bad. like really bad. so I changed that area and flattened it a little.
I'd say it's almost necessary for their heads

>>9670392
Oh wow, it looks so much better with your alterations! I wonder how they even came to the conclusion that their dimple style looked good. Honestly, it just ruins what would be a really cute style :(
Do you have any pics of the head before the changes? Also, how old is it?

>>9670397
I don't actually have any before shots since I really avoided it, whoooops. i do agree it really ruins it, and it's SUPER prevalent on some of their suits. i'm really fond of the ones with the eye style mine has, i don't see them using it as much i guess cause they prefer the follow-me ones.
he's from early 2016

>>9670343
>there's been a lot of issues with them lately.
Lately? God joke, she has a long history of scamming people.

>>9668868
Are you from Ireland?

>>9670392
Could you explain what you did to the head in a bit more detail? It looks great

What did autumnfallings do, anons?

>>9670521
Blocking everyone who doesn't agree with them but that's it.

>>9670527

How immature of them

>>9670527
What disagreements happened?

>>9670527
that's pretty much just standard procedure among furrers these days

>>9670521
I've heard in general they've not been a very pleasant person overall. Still curious on why they broke up with Havik.

Also I remember lurking years ago when AJ first started making suits. She was one of those people that would put in the description "Please leave comments" on her work.

>>9670564
What is it with suitmakers and menta instanility? Do you have to be insane or something to become a pro suitmaker? Maybe these are the people who think “I’m going to art school so when I’m done, I can make an easy living for the rest of my life off of suitmaking or erotic furry art”
The truth is, the money is crap, and the market might change someday or become saturated with the same style of suit. There may be other places to find furry art or suits, maybe new techniques pop up that become popular and our art school person is unprepared. Hope they have a second source of income!

>>9670607
>Do you have to be insane or something to become a pro suitmaker?
yes

>>9670541
Nothing, they don't want to associate with people that post porn, homophobic content, etc.

>>9670380
This looks great. Really good job anon.

Any problems with their kigus? That’s what I’m interested in.

Different style kigu.

>>9670607
Even after you move on from suit making, you can always work in film prop making. I think that’s the ultimate goal of a fair number of suit makers.

>>9670744
not that anon but I have two of their kigus and theyre very nice!

>>9670380
Oh, this was at confuzzled this year wasn't it? I think i saw you and another person with a lemonbrat opossum partial

>>9670749
But not everyone is that good. Realistic suitmakers like Qarrezel are a shoe in, but other makers, like OFA...I just don't see a future for them. And what about furry art in general? Not everyone is the Blotch team.

>>9670541
>>9670521
FF has a post up about an AutumnFallings situation

>Hey! I'd like to submit a post about Autumn Fallings, they're screwing over a customer and cancelling their unstarted commission spot, the only reason being that they didn't want to be friends with the commissioner anymore. AF has already given the spot to someone else and is refusing to refund the down payment even though the suit hasn't been started. Do you think this is beware worthy, I'm collecting proof now!

>>9670749
That reminds me, that Mordrude lady wants to go into sfx eventually, but with her being a super lifestyler that throws a hissy fit if people "disrespect" fursonas and costumes, I don't think she'd last. I mean, the industry routinely replaces practical effects work with CG mid-production. It sucks, but you have to deal with it. Would she and people like her throw a tantrum?
So that's the biggest question, are enough hardcore "pro" furries mature enough to work outside the fandom? It seems to me they're at the same level as your youtube streamers and anime con booth sellers. There are some great artists out there, but the fields are often seen as highly unprofessional as a whole.

>>9670763
If this is true than lol, why would someone like AF need to keep someone's deposit. I honestly thought she made decent money in the fandom.

Speaking of AF I personally don't like her style at all. Big heads with major blind spots. And all of the characters look like they've been stung by bees. Even worse are some of the copies like Phoenix Nest, MuttMix, SVC, Dream Machines, etc.

>>9670510
so you notice how a lot of them have that weird piece on the face kind of bulging out weirdly? I used an exacto knife and cut along the seams and flattened it JUST a little bit and glued the fur back on. i didn't actually do all that much because i was scared of messing him up lol. it looks a little noticeable up front where i cut but overall it looks better. they also had added some sort of shading along the spots with an airbrush or something, it was super easy to just gently scrub it off.

>>9670438
yeah I remember her old cosplay IP. but what I meant by lately was that the business as a whole was pretty good up until around last year. it's weird how once they start hiring more people things get worse. a noticeable drop in quality is likely due to trainees making suits and not the original people. but man. they need to step up a bit before they become another 'avoid at all costs' maker.

>>9670753
ah it wasn't me!! that was actually at megaplex.

>>9670733
>they don't want to associate with people that post porn
>in one of the most sexual fandoms out there
Gl with that, lol

>>9670839
i think they meant like, actual porn. not art-wise porn. aka murrsuiters
which is understandable.

>>9670842
>>9670839
That makes her a hypocrite though. There's art of her lion fursona and Rogue the wild dog fucking each other in a telegram sticker pack. None of these people are above porn like they try to come off.

>>9670786
i thought Phoenix nest happened before AF? i wouldn't really say the others are clones of AF either, i think you're just not too big of a fan of western suits t b h

>>9670852
there's a pretty big difference between drawing porn and turning your suit you take into public into a sex toy
i draw nsfw myself, but i'd never fuck in my suit.

>>9670854
If you go back far enough you can see the exact point where Phoenixwolf started making her suits look a lot like AF. I'd say Telephone's new head was the turning point.

Axel by SVC looks like a Chinese knockoff of AF. And madebymuttmix completely idolized AF for the longest and it shows.

And I was referring to the fact that AF apparently had a disagreement with reinfoxy about porn or whatever it is. I'm not saying it's true, but she's definitely a hypocrite if she's blocking people who draw porn. :/

>>9670865
ah yeah I see your point. I still don't reallllly view PN as a clone because I notice angry style suits becoming a trend between every maker lately. (pn and af are friends too right? I don't actually know lol) SVC has had some strange quality happenings but they still got their own distinct look I'd say... the others, I don't really follow enough to have an opinion on tho!

and yeah I understand that now, I interjected without reading the whole convo woops. I just remember that one suit being outed as a murrsuit earlier and thought we were back on that.

>>9670871
Yeah at the end of the day a lot of makers just kind of steal from each other, but there have been times that I mistook one maker's suit from another. SVC is stands out the most from the ones I listed.

I'm definitely not opposed to western suits but a lot of them are a bit overpriced to look so "same-y". I find collab suits to usually have a more unique look to them and are more justified to be pricey.

>>9670889
yeah I totally agree! I guess it's a part of everyone improving as a whole. at least they still offer their older styles- i think the reason we see so many angry suits from those makers right now is because they're getting to the point in there queue where the sudden burst of interest happened for that kind of style.
I really want a SVC suit but god, I can't get over the dorito thing. I just LOVE their corgi so much and I can't quite find a maker who has that same spark for me. i've seen so many other suits that have 'close' styles but I just keep going back to svc. god dammit, morals.

>>9670854
>those tiny goggles

>>9670889
These are adorable

>>9670920
it's a fashion statement geez mom you'll never understand

Been working on my own design by taking elements I really like, quite satisfied so far. I think the color scheme is really nice. I'm still debating if i want the tilted back ears like in 4 & 5 and maybe white fingers like >>9670854
I think it would probably look really cool in a different head style than kemono, but I just think that style is adorable so I haven't tried other shapes yet.
What do you think?

>>9671046
while your character isn't quite my cup of tea (i prefer basic stuff), I'd definitely vote on 1 or 2 + white finger tips.
eyes probably the yellow, but I'm not too sure. all 3 look good.

>>9671047
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah the wings are excessive and it's kinda meant to be worn without aswell most of the time, but I made one of those remote controlled frames and it would be a shame not to incorporate it hehe.
I added the white fingertips too! I do like the yellow too, i think it fits a bit better with the species.

>>9671046
If you're going to have your fingertips white, I'd recommend having the toes white as well, consistency 'n all.
Purely for my own personal preferences, I'd say four for the head, but four or five's ear placement might be better for actual use in convention halls and such, easier to avoid slapping people with the ears set back as opposed to straight out to the side if they get too close to your head to try to talk to you.

Fucking furries.

>>9671162
pls don't post garbage

https://www.patreon.com/posts/beetlecats-10050249

What do you think about this policy change. I wouldn’t be happy to see other makers go the same route.

>>9671228
wait
you have to pay them 100 a month (600?!?)
to be in their queue.....
????

does the 600 go towards your suit?

>>9671228
Glad I don't like their suits anyway. I hope no one else decides to do this though

>>9671230
No.

>>9671232
L O L

>>9671232
>fursuit research and development
This isn't fucking science.
>paying to get on a waitlist
What a waste lmao.

>>9671046
sorry, I had the urge to take a crack at your design.

>>9671240
damn that's cool!

im gay

>>9671263
same

>>9671270
R O U N D

>>9671270
peekaboo

>>9671270

I can imagine this with him saying "I have crippling depression" as he pops out.

>>9671231
That’s really disappointing, to be honest. Patreon like alcohol, nice at first, but easy to get addicted to. Be careful with how you use it.

>>9671235
Furries take the fandom too seriously.

>>9671228
*~PAY $100 A MONTH FOR NOTHING~*

scouse furs anon, I tried joining the group but was declined, I messaged an admin explaining that I wanted to attend one of the meets but haven't had a response yet so idk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>9671240
Pretty cool! I like the extra stripes on the feathers but most of the others feel a bit too sharp and too cluttery, like it's some kind of racing monster. I'm gonna doodle up some extra today. Not too fond of the eyes either, too monster-like. I was thinking of white inner thighs aswell

Slight update, quite content with how it looks now.

So apparently AutumnFalling was complaining about her suit auction only reaching 5k at first (it stopped at around 8k??) She was coming off pretty desperate in her tweets promoting it. Lmao. What a money hungry cunt. Sounds like some shit is about to hit the fan because she took her trello down.

>>9671487
lmao
I hope she does something stupid like relist the suit at a higher price

So not only was AF bitter about her lion suit not getting high bids off the bat, but she canceled a commission on Fenhearts and tried keeping a 2.4k deposit without purchasing materials or starting work on the suit.

Oddly enough, this chick is chiming in on it when she owes suits to people from like 3 years ago. Like sit the fuck down you e-beg for money every other month.
https://twitter.com/PB_Willow

I'm loving all the juicy drama tho.

>>9671527
why does she charge so much?
that deposit alone is more than the full price of a lot of people's suits. Good suits as well.

>>9671454

>>9671537
AF has always been expensive for the name. She's horribly overpriced for someone who does a toony style.

>>9671487
>>9671527
Wait, isn't the lion explicitly Halloween themed? Does she really think bids will go up after Halloween?

>>9671527
Lawsuit time!
Seriously, though, suitmakers have a sort of complex where they feel better than everyone else and have these “we reserve the right to cancel your commission at any time for any reason, without deposit refund” clauses.

>>9671550
I think she was banking on the idea of selling the suit for closer to 10k. Reality is hitting her that not everyone is willing to drop tons of cash on her just because her suits are so "exclusive".

>>9671552
FenHearts did get her refund yesterday but she said she's still putting up a beware anyways.
https://twitter.com/FenHeartsWM/status/923261085020499968

>>9671552
Tbh, as someone who does commissions on a regular basis (not fursuits right now) I do occassionally get people that, after they've seen what I can do, are not 'satisfied' with the final result, and try to fuck you over by disputing.
I get why sometimes people are like 'no refunds, ever'. But this is quite the entitledment.
Does someone have a picture of the lion suit you're talking about?

>>9671559
It's not a bad suit by any means, but wanting a minimum of 5k for it is definitely all about paying for the AF name on it.

>>9671567
And with no payment plans.

>>9671570
On the flip side, you can commission Atelier Amanojaku in Japan for a suit and their payment plans go up to 12 months!

>>9671567

Is green considered a halloween colour??

>>9671567
>>9671570
Yeah that's excessive for quite a standard built suit that's premade.

>>9671567
Its definitely a good suit but, for the price she's asking I'd expect it be a little less wrinkly but that's just me. 5k should be the max and she threw a fit about it lol.

>>9671572
It's part of the palette, but I always think orange and black as the primary colors, then purple and green as secondary.

>another potential maker for my suit out the window
Fuuuuck

I found this "beware" google docs list, and it's sad to see DontHugCacti on it. I've liked their suits since I was in early high school. :(

>>9671676
Most popular makers have been part of some kind of drama lol

>>9671676
If it helps, beware can be a lot of things.

If it’s ancient drama and they have a good rep now, it’s okay.

If it’s something political/social you don’t mind, it’s okay

If it’s flakiness but they are willing to refund in full, it might be okay.

>>9671676
Care to share the list you speak of?

>>9671685

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xl9YVsvPF2EsG0lq8ArMi4BY-bw0y0qpjiHyxUEKCwk/edit#

It's a shame there's so much negativity with "professional" fursuit making, their fault or not, so to post something slightly more positive, here's a link to a database of sorts of a bunch of fursuit makers:
http://makersdatabase.tumblr.com/
Obviously it can't be comprehensive, but it might help anyway if you're in the market.

Those legs really ruin a lovely suit for me.

>>9671737
how? apart from the slightly long fur on the back of the lower half of the legs they're pretty good to me

>>9671737
Aw man, it almost looks like they ran out of quality short pile white fur and had to go with cheap satin.

Infurnity started few hours ago, I wonder if K-Line will act diva again and leave after an hour due to not getting the attention they expected to get as starguests.

Pic kind of related but they didn't arrive yet.

>>9671750
lol did that thing with k-line happen
also I see some nice suits in there! I can't wait for my next con but it feels so far away aaaaa

>>9671752
>>9671750
Atelier Amanojaku really seems to be the majority source for Kemono suits, doesn't it? K-line tried, but they seem quite unprofessional.

>>9671755
Which isn't surprising how many suits they make a year at a decent speed. Their current queue is 91 commissions and that one is already done in april while they are only 6 people making everything.

>>9671752
>lol did that thing with k-line happen
That's what they did at Infurnity last year, I was surprised they were invited again.

>>9671775
Love the eyes on these suits, I think they're from the same maker right?
I wish we had more fur cons in Europe.

>>9671782
Atelier Amanojaku's suits.I commissioned them last month for a cute bee-cat!

>>9671782
>>9671785
All their suits are so adorable! Perfect kemono makers.

>>9671785
This character's younger sister.

>>9671782
Yes, Amanajoku's suits are all easy to recognise by the eyes and drop crotch with round pillow leg padding. The maker also donated a partial to the con's raffle (pic related).

>>9671766
91 suits? wow, when did that queue start?

>>9671795
That's hard to say as the queue is always getting new additions but the ones on its top should be from march.

>>9671795
That's a crazy amount but I've never heard of any bewares on Atelier. Good on them for handling their queues well unlike most makers such as One Fur All.

>>9668687

That Discord link is expired by the way.

>>9671804
Having said that, their staff member Rex does like 20 suits a month including the ones that are the work uniforms of ticket inspectors of some train line. It's fun to watch the progress on his Twitter.

>>9671807
discord link is semi-private, ask if you want it and you can get the time limited one

>>9671812

Is it fursuiter exclusive? If not, no reason for me to join since I'm only a fan.

>>9671813
nope anyone welcome as long as you're not an asshat

ill ask for you

>>9671814
discord.gg/WVd2a

expires one hour

>>9671815

Cool, thanks

>>9671815
Sorry, discord admin here. I was on a flight so I couldn’t do anything lol. Yeah it’s cool obviously, I’ll assign your role later and be sure to read the rules. Not that they’re too serious

>>9671795
They get stuff done cause they’re an actual fursuit “company” as compared to a small business

>>9671820
6 people making everything hardly counts as company tho, K-Line is about 10 with their trainess and still doesn't get shit done.

>>9671810
Woah that's insane, pretty awesome

>>9671828
In case you want to see all of his progresses > https://twitter.com/RexRex103/media

>>9671818
Yeah I figured a short expiry would be cool with you.

Anyway I saw this cutie a few threads ago and wondered if anyone had sauce or any idea how to make such a muzzle. I’m new to suiting so was thinking resin blank would be the way to go, but if this isn’t too hard it would be fun to try

>>9671826
I thought there was more. I talk to QLB about it when we’re not spamming each other with food photos lol

>>9671820
>>9671826
It's the mentality, not the numbers alone.

20 people individually derping around and getting in personal drama, or a few that are professional and diligent in creating a product

>>9671835
Oh I know! QLB is very professional. The entire company is, especially the translator I talked to when i got my suit lol

>>9671834
I don't think more people would fit into their current studio

>>9671832
Thanks, ill follow

>>9671833
Cute, reminds me a bit of salandit

>>9671842

>>9671845
Photo space before they switched to the new curtain.

>>9671842
They moved semi recently but if that’s the new place (I only saw it empty) then whoah, smaller than I remember! I can always ask. I like small places like that myself. Less work space but easier to find items lol

>>9671846
Dropped my image.

>>9671845
Oh man this is so clean and sorted compared to my workspace haha

>>9671847
I think they moved again then, that was the location they still had in august but I don't think their staff suddenly increased after the move.

>>9671850
Looking back at the old messages. I think they got a new home? This was beginning of September. Not a new workspace. New photo space though!

>>9671832
>https://twitter.com/RexRex103/media
So he makes these head bases by draping embroidery canvas (i think?) on a base, and somehow hardening/glueing these together? It looks very clean and very light.

FenHearts is rage quitting the fandom.

Just find another maker. Don’t be a baby.

>>9671866
daaaaamn i always loved ramiel
the timing is terrible for me
frick

>>9671866
Huh why? Fenhearts wasnt the person at fault right, and it was refunded? I guess unless all her suits are by AF that would be a reason to sell them.

>>9671899
It looks like they are.

Is AF also the Telephone DAD person? I'm new and completely lost here.

>>9671862
It'sa layer of orthopedic cast bandage actually, he then adds foam to the inside strenghten it

>>9671933
Ah i thought it might be bandage, that makes sense thanks!

>>9671899
>>9671918
No, only the canine pictured is by AF. The Dragon is by Skypro and the bat from SVC

>>9671931
No, that’s Ino from Skypro.

>>9671866
She deleted this.

>>9671777
Opening dance or something.

Blue Fox seems to start working on premades and made-to-order designs again.

>>9671995
Pic related were their last premades, the dragon is still available.

>>9671946
ugh I love tfu
this boy is so damn CUTE

literal autism

>>9672060
>complaining about autism on 4chan

What species that never seem to be made into fursuits would you want to see more of?
Only Ottsel fursuit i've seen is a rather crummy looking one from like 2007

>>9672123
more sergals that aren’t ass
for people to forget the weird shit some people came up with about them

>>9672123
Armadillos

>>9672123
Honestly, I want to see more of everything that isn't a feline or canine.

>>9672123
a swan

>>9671995
Designs look quite original, i like them

>>9671995
That lemon is so cute

>>9672123
Dragons with tails that don’t sprout out of their butts or back that aren’t DADs

>>9671454
>>9672427

Got the wing prototype done that will eventually also be used for my character.
Anyone knows of any fursuits with powered wings?

K-Line finished one of the wolf clones, the random shortpile fur seems to be a bad choice tho with the uneven pattern as the character was supposed to be all fuzzy.

>>9672433
The uneven shaved, toothless head tho.

>>9672433
>>9672437
This is hilarious and even if its true that Rady doesn't have a hand in production anymore the quality just hasn't improved at all. It's such a spit in the face with how Rufen and Alba look in comparison to these premades.

>>9672439
I agree, this looks miserable. Why the short pile, to save on material costs? It would have looked kind of acceptable with long pile fur. Not worth the maybe 60 bucks they saved with it.

>>9672441
It would be so much better if they at least made slow transitions of length using shaving. But like that weird long blue spot near the knee? It looks like the suit has mange.

>>9672431
I've looked into getting similar / identical linear actuators for similar purposes (Well, identical purposes + articulation for other things) and I thought they were way too expensive for what you're getting. I barely want to know what it was for two of 'em.
Do you have any stability issues with it fully extended with the lower joint rotated at 180°+? I've noticed leavers like that get kinda floppy when they're out that far so I avoided doing that when I built folding wings myself.
>Anyone knows of any fursuits with powered wings?
Only really seen manually articulated ones, probably for the aforementioned cost reasons.

>>9672450
This actuator was literally 40$ on amazon, 17cm bar length. I positioned it upside down for the stability issue, and it should not wobble at all when its completely extended, plus the wings will be folded when the actuator extended, which helps a lot!
When the wings are in full span, the actuator cannot wobble or break at all since it's actually retracted. I think this design will help it a lot for cheaper actuators and also because you only need one actuator that is in the most stable position you can have. I did a lot of research on that and it's probably the best position you can get it, both for stability and for your own comfort (weight and weight distribution).
It's only on the ground right now and I won't test it up right yet since its inbalanced on one side + the joints are not glued yet. I need to print all the other joints first and make the other side and glue everything together well.

I'll probably make it a little less extended, the joints are now overextending too much as you can see which can indeed lead to instability on the wings itself. Since I plan to use the frame for 3 different suits/cosplays I think 40$ is definitely a right investment. The rest is cheap shock resistant pvc pipes and a couple 3d prints on my own chinese printer.

>>9671948
Those toes are disappointing.

>>9672458
I had a quick look through (american) amazon, and the cheaper options are still ~$60. Better than the $100+ options I was seeing elsewhere, but still entirely impractical for getting enough for what I want to do with them.
Even for multi use, it's good that you found a decent solution. On that though, I can attest to how much of a pain it is to get the articulating frame in and out of the wing(s), so with you intending to reuse them, definitely take ease of attachment / insertion and removal into account when you make the costume part it goes into.

>>9672444
Oh wow I just noticed that. I wonder how long K-line will stay in business or if Eixin will jump ship and find a new partner? How are they behaving at Infurnity?

>>9672476
Definitely looking into easy in-out solutions, but I'll probably only reuse the actuator and not the actual frame, since the frame itself is fairly cheap to replicate.
I got this one (europe), it's pretty much permanently on sale since chinese crap: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B071D1F2BS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

>>9672477
They had a owih other K-Line suiters and that was all, left again after that. In fact, they only finished that wolf so fast because it was some Infurnity staff that bought it, probably gonna see that on live tomorrow.

Also, it is Eixin that owns K-Line and everyone else is just trainees, guess why Alba is the face of their homepage nowadays.

>>9672487
'shoot, my keyboard is dying

>>9672481
>Check .com price
>$54.99
>Check .co.uk price
>Not available
>Euro -> USD
>~$40
Not surprised. Looks like reasonable prices for getting large-ish numbers of these in the US are still a way off. I hope that my current plan of servos and syringes borderline duct-taped together will be enough.

>>9669686
im gonna

>>9672491
That sounds lovely ghetto. I've seen people do it with threaded rods, pulleys and drill servo, might be an idea too?

>>9672507
>Threaded rod
Not a fan of the responsiveness of that kind of set up, have to spin a servo several times to move a relatively small amount. Strong, but slow.
>Pulleys and a drill motor
That'd be a idea, if I could fit all of the pulleys and drill motors in the tiny area I have to work with.
I like the idea of having as little of the weight be on the wing armature as possible, 'cause I want to have moving fingers/thumb on each wing also, and I can effectively mount the servo & initial syringe anywhere, so I get a lot more mounting options.
Plus a large number of servos + syringes are way cheaper than other options. Might bight the bullet with the joint that's holding the majority of the weight and get linear actuators for them, but that's it.

Why do you guys hate murrsuits so much? I get if they're dirty and scraggly looking, but if someone's suit is so clean you actually have to go out of your way to find out if it's a murrsuit, is it really an issue at that point?

If you give someone a handshake you probably touched their fapping device, you know.

>>9672539
A drill servo tends to be really fast so a threaded rod slows it down hence the combination. Anyway goodluck with your setup!

>>9672557
Because a suit can look clean and not actually be clean at all. Cleaning faux far is hard and chances are that any random murrsuit is gross as all hell.

>>9672557
They are scary and as much as I hate generalizing they have no manners at all. You can usually see very little of the person inside it and on the top of that they think it's okay to hug without asking. Apparently speaking will break the appearance?

>>9672599
Notice that anon was asking about murrsuits, not fursuits.

>>9672487
I absolutely hate Eixins suit, the face is the ugliest thing it looks like a weird lopsided dolphin. He just cashes in on Radys popularity but nobody really wants a photo of him. If it wasn't for rady nobody would even know who he was

>>9672487
Is it me or is there a clear discrepancy in quality between a lot of these suits. Like Rady is still the first thing people think of when they mention k line but imo the only one that comes close is the fox on the left.

And the studio members left after the photo shoot? Why even travel all that way to a con as a business if you're just gonna leave asap???

http://www.strawpoll.me/14261335

>>9672557
Yea, it’s always an issue. I won’t photograph or pose with anyone that’s a confirmed murrsuiter. I keep pictures/clips of them out of my con videos. If they ask for picture with my suit, I say no. I’m not interested in looking like I’m a fan of/friends with any fuck suit.

It’s disgusting to mislead someone into interacting with your fetish item. There’s no way for children or parents to know either. You can find plenty of pictures of CosmicWoofy with kids around him. How disrespectful.

>>9672746
I actually meant SparkPanda, not Cosmic. I got my weirdos mixed up.

>>9672746
This is very much my attitude. I don't care if you have a fetish, but don't bring your fetish gear into public to interact with people who may not feel okay consenting to that, especially when it's not always obvious it's a murrsuit.

can you make a new discord link that one is expired >>9668687

>>9672433
the eyes need like some shine to them like how most >>9672487 have
it looks dead on the inside
and the short pile is bad
what a lazy suit

>>9672827
Because the eyes of the previous suits where drawn by Rady, seems like even that isn't done by her anymore

>>9672708
>Why even travel all that way to a con as a business if you're just gonna leave asap?
Because they didn't have to pay shit, they were invited as special guests by the con.

>>9672873
I hope they stop getting invited if they're just gonna show up for an hour to take a photo for their website and then fuck off

>>9671790
And here the very happy winner.

>>9672802
https://discord.gg/ejrwd
1 hour

Some more Infurnity photo dump.

>>9672884

>>9672884
cute! those are some enormous handpaws

>>9672885

>>9672888

>>9672889

>>9672889
I love this suit.

>>9672890

>>9672890
>>9672889
>>9672888
>>9672885
>>9672884
That’s a lot of blue suits.

Thoughts on this suit? The expression too me is for much. Really poor sewing on the nose also.

>>9672892

>>9672893
I think the expression is okay, the nose does need some work though

>>9672893
Depends on how long the person made fursuits, looks like the work of someone in their first year with the horrible gap at the upper teeth and glued on black felt? spots.

thoughts on this head?
https://www.etsy.com/listing/552921058/cross-fox-mask

>>9672926
Looks a bit wonky at the eyes which could be the angle but else it looks nice.

>>9672893

>D'AHYUK!

>>9672557
Because we've actually had long conversations about cleaning the suits and you can not get semen out 100% no matter what the fucking murrsuiters tell you and that's nasty as hell. And you especially shouldn't have your semen suit around children what the fuck.

>>9672926
I would steer clear of Mithical. She doesn’t even credit the artists when she uses a premade base. That alone isn’t awful but she’s been called out a few times for poor customer service. I could probably find the review a customer did of a similar mask recently. They weren’t very happy with what they received.

This suit is a what? It’s unique.

>>9672893
that head looks like it's in a constant state of shock

can i have an invite to the discord? i asked in the other thread but had to afk for awhile.

What do you guys think about making a suit using a kigurumi head as a base? I have a character with a very human-like head and want to make a suit of them. Pic related

>>9672964
It looks like it could be cute if executed better than your image
Smaller nose maybe, also the way the muzzle is shaped makes it look like some kind of pug

>>9672893
It would look nicer with more expressive eyes.

I see how the nose looks bad, but what do you think they did or failed to do that’s messed it up

>>9672926
Really pretty, I’d go for it if you really like it. But be careful about the seller.

>>9672939
It’s a cool whatever it is

>>9672960
Still here?

>>9673050
yup im not missing that link again

>>9672964
With a smaller nose, I feel like this could work.

>>9673048
I think a plush mouth opened that wide just doesn’t read right.
I hear Goofy’s “huh-YUK” when I look at it. It’s MacaroniMarket. They do okay stuff.

>>9673051
I'll ask again tomorrow. later.

>>9672884
I love this suit

>>9673058
their suits are hit or miss
i like the bodies they do though

>>9672926
Beautiful.

>>9672964
Interesting idea. Looks promising.

>>9672964
All of Tashiro Yu's suits are made that way too, not hard to notice tho when looking at the borders of the mouths (shiny pink plastic).

>>9673292
It’s a little on the uncanny valley side.

>>9673292
I adore these suits and will jump at the opportunity if he sells any more of them.

>>9673301
I am still sad that only one appeared again after being sold (the big tabby), I don't get people that buy suits only to never wear them again.

>>9669421
>>9668950

Wow, your character looks great! I hope you continue posting your process, it's been cool seeing it come together. If you feel confident enough in the future I'd love to commission you!

>>9673295
Bless this dad, Only one i've seen without dead eye sockets

Ever seen a suit with a pompadour? I kinda wanna do that

>>9673446
That’s not a Dutch.

You’ve missed out on one of my favorite DADs then.

>>9673454
Holy hell that's a smorgasbord of toon. I don't see how this could be a dad and the other one isn't though.
>Wolgan not a DAD
I bet half of their twitter traffic is people looking up to see if they're a dad. Also I feel like I should not like this person.

requesting an invite to the discord. I was here last night but no one was on.

>>9673469
https://discord.gg/7h2znV one hour invite

>>9673292
Watching him make Eclair from a mask was fun.

>>9673440
Maybe theyre murrsuits now and thats why no ones seen them.

I just made my first fursuit and watched lots of tutorials and I still have a question. How do you guys stay cool in these things? Even thought that was a concern as I was making these and I know most fursuits are hot, holy balls this one was not wearable for more than 5 minutes inside! It's great in the current 60 below outside weather though.

>>9673779
I guess I should specify that I was able to keep the suit on for over an hour, it was the head that was giving me problems. I think I need to install a fan for sure. But even then, it's not something that I would ever wear during the summer months when most conventions happen.

>>9673783
I can wear my suit for around 5 hours (partial) before needing to remove it, mine has a fan installed inside and very good ventilation from the mouth and eyes. you can also install hidden vents inside noses like in the pic related and I think some makers do it in ears too.

>>9673995

>>9673783
Anyone else too,

What you all think of wearing something like https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DLSBIB2 under a suit?

In case someone else like me comes along, ...
>>9673996 is linking to the new thread, and isn't just a random link.