/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9657647
Cheers Hungarian, will unironically save me looking time.

>>9657650
personally, I never close the tab so I never have to search for it

Going back on the earlier posted question to post kits... here's mine. I still need to paint parts of it, do some branding on it for the local smith (shamelessly stolen from the Landsknechte at Drachenfest, but it's free IC money) and my chainmail isn't lying next to it.

R8 my kit though lads.

>>9657775
i want that kit.

>>9657775
the limb parts look very... simple? I mean the shaping. Aren't they a bit too big for you?

>>9657788
They fit pretty snug, though I got some decently wide shoulders so that might fix part of it as well. They're really simple though, yeah, it's basic Mytholon stuff besides the corrazina and helmet.

>>9657789
yeah, mytholon, no surprise there then

>>9657791
Not in a financial stable enough position to get full fitted armour, though with possibilities of bohurt coming up when the rugby season is over I might have to look into contacting angry Russians/Ukranians.

I'm planning on cosplaying a 16th century musketeer/arquebusier for a Halloween party in a couple of weeks. Do you have any advice for low-cost clothing, props, etc? I've already got a replica of a helmet very similar to that one and I've got some green pants, but they aren't baggy like that. Also, should I use a regular, white button down shirt with a popped collar under the vest and coat? Thanks for your advice.

>>9657614
>>All Strikes and swings in the Utopia Descending count as “1 hit”. When struck in a limb, it counts as 1 hit for that limb as long as that limb is still active. If a limb is not active, you can no longer use weapons or equipment in that arm nor move equipment that requires both hands. Any further strikes to an inactive limb count as passing through and count as torso strikes. If a limb takes 3 strikes, the limb ceases to function.

I got really excited for a moment because I was glad to see someone actually moving away from variable damage.

But then I read the rest and I saw that it's just hit points but more complicated. Why would you do this.

>>9658268
well if it's a halloween party then you don't want to go over the top I presume.
the shirt will to it probably, as for the pants, you can make one yourself, search for pluderhose pattern and you will have the rough idea that you can simplify if needed.
as for the jerkin you can get away with any leather looking vest.

>>9658681
Cool, thanks.

Is it silly to be assembling costumes for a larp you may not ever go to?

I've been putting one together for a game near a graduate school I many not even be accepted to, and even though it gives me great joy to see my costume coming together, it does feel a little silly at times.

>>9659134
>>9659134
>Is it silly to be assembling costumes for a larp you may not ever go to?
nah, not really

How do you feel about people who use the same costume for everything?

Case in point, there's a dude who goes to all the same fantasy LARPS i do, and he wears the exact same gear to each one. It's perfectly in place, but it's jarring, is all.

>>9659272
>How do you feel about people who use the same costume for everything?
if it's a different character AND its on different games AND the costumes are decent then no problem. Not everyone has to be the very best like no one ever was.

That said, if it's the same game, or it's the same fucking character all the fucking time or the costume is just a modern shirt and a purple vest or something similar then you have a problem

>>9659272
Depends on the circumstances, I suppose. Some people can't afford to maintain multiple costumes on top of larp fees, so I don't have any problem with people reusing a costume wholesale for different games, as long as the costume fits in each. If they're playing the same character entirely, that sounds like a sign of it being less about money and more about laziness.

>>9659272
I really dislike it because it's usually out of laziness or an obsession with a character. In my experience these people usually have some sort of weird character fetish that they give the reigns just a little too often.

Scavenging costume parts from dead roles/other roles is only normal though.

>>9659310
Pretty much this, but it's not too difficult to buy or make some more kit for variety. Even if you keep the same expensive stuff such as weapons and armour, a different coloured tunic and some accessories will make a world of difference.

>>9659272
I have been told that playing the same character everywhere is a hallmark of German larp culture, where a fuckton of larps have ways of porting characters from other larps and gaining XP from having been to other larps.

I suppose if it means you have one awesome costume instead of five mediocre ones, everything's good. It depends entirely on the motivation of the player.

I know of one group of five-ish people that attend multiple larps with the same group. I still haven't figured out whether they play interdimensional travelers or just play the same characters everywhere, but their costumes are good, so I don't see any problem with it.

What do you guys think about my kit?

>>9659272
I don't have a problem with it, assuming he's using kit appropriate for each of the larp settings. Not everyone can afford bespoke kit or have storage space for each and every larp they attend, especially weapons and armour.

>>9659731
I don't know if it's historically accurate, but I'd say try to get some kind of hanging garment to cover up that white at the thighs. It draws too much attention imo.

Other than that, pretty solid.

>>9659731
Pretty good. The helm weirds me out a bit with how it combines the full aventail and bretache (both bascinet-style fittings) with a Norman-era conical helm. Works fine for fantasy though.

The boots are very nice, if new but that will soon change with use.

>>9659761
The white of the gambeson does make it look at bit naked for want a better term, at the hem and the exposed sleeves. A mail shirt under the CoP would look great if heavy and expensive. You could dye the gambeson a nice red so it looks more like outerwear. Or you could make a livery coat or tabard (a proper one, not a cotton rectangle with a headhole).

Overall though, good job and happy larping.

I've been thinking of hitting Drachenfest next year and i'm having a bit of an issue figuring out how to convert my character over based on the rules. the main issue is i play sort of a spell sword. magic does limit your health and armor in my larp as well but templars or paladins still can wear chain shirts. recommendations? suck it up and wear leather?

>>9660238
there are no restriction on armours at drachenfest, except for alternative materials one

>>9659731
no big problem with it.
The scabbard is put on in a weird way though and the belt could be a little narrower.

But I'm really interested on what kind of sword is that. Is that from Wyvern?

>>9660238
I don't think the drachenfest rules have limitations concerning magic and worn armor. A mage just can't buy extra armor points for xp, if I remember correctly.

Besides, nobody is going to look at your charsheet anyways. Just focus on good roleplay and nobody's going to complain.

>>9657647

What's going on with DR? I've not been in the loop since Downfall of 2016. Was pretty okay.

>>9660513
some anon posted about it in the previous thread
>>9657506

>>9660523

Oh shit wow. That sucks but I guess they got what was coming to em.

Pucci seemed like an alright guy, too.

Shit, Amerilarp just sucks ass in general.

>>9660537

EDIT, at least we still have Realms :)

>>9660538
I slightly recall how big of a clusterfuck rules it has and how some anons argued that it's just as shitty as other larps but with a better coating, a few threads before

>>9660543

Nah I was trolling. Realms is garbage. Imo it could be good, it needs to modernize, but no one wants to do that.

Also christ I just hate the look of dick bats in general lmao.

Also a lot of elitism.

>>9660547
How does one sustain elitism while holding a dickbat?

>>9660562

because realms is the best, no other larp is better, and they're the best fighter in all the realms, aka best at tappatappatappa really fast and drumrolling down the backs of others with their single short foam dickbats.

tappatappatappa

>>9660369
>>9660378

page 16  It is not possible to use of magic skills while wearing metal armor! The same
restriction applies to the magic skill magic armor .

>>9660587
ahh, you mean casting in armor. Well, yes that's one stuff casters have to suck up for their other advantages.
Although you can use alchemy if I remember correctly but that is more time (and material) consuming.

>>9660614

ok so i have to choose between battle magic and a different kit lol

well i'll be upgrading my non battle garb anyway so might as well just get some leather. gonna be taking mage armour

>>9660369
Yep that sword is from wyverncrafts. Compared to a lot of other larp sword I have seen it is really slender and someone who has n knowledge about swords might even mistake it for a real one at the right distance.
At the moment I'm not at home, but when I'm back I will make some close up shots for you

>>9660858
Here have two older pictures of it.

>>9660858
>>9660862
I have one of their longswords. Handles really well. It's a shame the the tip is shit. Already broke two of it, both times they repleaced it and second time it was with an upgraded 2.0 tip protection. Will see how long it will take until that one fails. (I really hope they upgrade the tip even further because I really love the overakl design and handling)

Also scabbard still looks weird as fuck. Probably because it's larp grade and a one point design

Looking to make a cosplay of a character with a sleeveless chainmail shirt. I don't fancy getting an actual chainmail shirt due to a) the price and b) having to walk round in heavy armour all day. Is there some sort of alternate I could use? Either material that looks like chainmail, or some kind of lighter mail.

>>9661870 go with a thick alluminum. Barely noticeable weight. When do you need it by?

>>9661870
Low-budget fantasy movies usually use rough wool sweaters spray-painted silver. Only works if it's not supposed to be a centerpiece in full view, though.

>>9661872
Not until July, so plenty of time.

>>9661930
I'm planning on having a tabard over it, so really only the edges should be visible.

This is an odd question, but how would LARP thread recommend someone who is an artist getting in contact with a LARP group for reference photos and such?

And, how much would you guys charge for photos of yourselves in gear, in specific poses/lighting?

>>9662460
>And, how much would you guys charge for photos of yourselves in gear, in specific poses/lighting?
Market it as a FREE! photoshoot, give them the pictures as payment.

>>9662472
That would probably work if I was at a LARP, myself, but what about if I wanted someone to take photos of themselves online?

>>9662460
look, tell us what you want, and we probably have a photo similar to that (if it isn't too specific)
I mean I personally have a metric fuckton of photos saved, probable the others have a lot too, and we all exchibitionist that much to make new photos of our stuff if needed

>>9662502
Well then, if it's possible:
Leather high boots with an upper-right directional light. Specifically, one facing forward and one facing slightly to the side but the lighting for this, due to leather material having specific shine on the folds, is what is more important.

A light-coloured doublet, forward facing and buttoned, upper-right directional lighting preferably but this is mostly for the shape and specificity of button locations and how it applies to folds so the lighting isn't really too important as long as it isn't just flat-lighting.

Preferably photos taken at-level or front with the subject, rather than angled up or angled down.

>>9662510
>Leather high boots with an upper-right directional light
something like this?
Will search for more but this was the first one.

also what do you consider "light coloured doublet"?

>>9662514
not the best light but the boots are good

>>9662520

>>9662521

>>9662514
Boots to Knee Length would be best, as they can always be cut down.

For doublet, something along these lines but front-facing, preferably without the hands in front would be best. Not sure what the actual term for it is.

Thanks though.

>>9662526
technically that is a doublet but a late one, late 16 - 17 century.
Will try to get a better museum versions of it as it's not that common on larps (or at least he ones that are properly made)

>>9662527
Well, earlier ones work too. It's mostly just for the buttons and folds. Like, this kind of thing also works.

>>9662527
also. how important is the color stuff?

>>9662531
Not too important, just as long as it isn't black and obscures the cloth basically.

>>9662530
you want cloth buttons or metal buttons? Also that's a gambeson, totally differnet thing with different thickness, folds, shape, pattern, etc

here is a roughly 15th century doublet with cloth buttons

>>9662534
Metal buttons would best. And I see, I will keep that in mind then.

>>9662536
Alright, thank you. This should do fine, I should be able to make due now with this.

Sorry for the trouble and the interruption.

>>9662537
well, metal buttons will be later ones. As long as we talking historical. But for fantasy, as I said buttonned doublets aren't that common in larps (harder to make it properly) so while it can happen I will really have to search for some

>>9662539
don't go anywhere, I'm just getting started

>>9662540
Well, as long as you are willing, any more would be appreciated, same goes for the leather boots.

heavily filtered photos like this is okay? (and yeah the light is from the wrong direction here)

>>9662546
Yeah. They're just reference so the filtering should be fine as it mostly just changes the value and colour.

>>9662550
also, I'm kind of an idiot. What kind of art will you do?
because I have photos of actual paintings too.

>>9662552
Illustrator. This specifically is for a character painting for a board game, as I am trying to work my way into fantasy illustration. Unfortunately NDA.

For most illustrations, I get a model and take reference photos then paint from there, but for things like this, I was wondering what the going cost would be for hiring LARPers to take reference photos to avoid having to buy the costumes myself which I would imagine would be rather expensive comparatively.

>>9662555
actually if the costumes they already have is okay AND you can make the photos yourself then most larpers are completely happy to pose for you in exchange of they getting the photos afterward.
All of us have an attention whore deep inside us.

>>9662562
Good to know. When I have the time and money for possible travel and such, I'll have to look into doing that sometime to collect a pile of reference for later use, as necessary.

also for knee high boots you can see that it's folded back. If it's not folded back it goes above the knee. Everyone can fold it back as much as he or she needs to. this one >>9662546 is a very good example, the guy also have a nice gear. It has all those "wrinkles" because it's not a modern chrome tanned leather, and neither too thick (which would make knee high boots kind of uncomfortable in the long run)

Historically speaking nearly every knee high boot from medieval and renaissance period is for riding, and a lot of time when people were on the horse the folded up above the knee, though that's depends on the individual preference.

this one on the other hand >>9662552 isn't actually boots, more like a leather hose. that also functions as legwear.

Then again in fantasy you can do whatever you want, it's just a few pointer.

>>9662568
Well the real problem is to find larpers with good costumes that you actually want to photo. I hope you don't live in the US

as for buttoned doublets and other things:
As I said there were metal and cloth buttons. metals were usually copper, tin, pewter, sometimes bronze, or precious metals. Metal buttons were a later things, or at least that's when they got widespread, before 16th century it wasn't the norm, or were only for wealthier people.

From a drawing viewpoint there are few important things:
First, doublets were tight. So tight that they functioned as a corset to some degree to give you a slight hourglass shape. Hourglass shape was the ideal for males too for a shitton of time. It changed somewhere around late 16th century where the peascod/goose breast shaped stuff came in to make you look fatter than you actually were-
Secondly the waist line were also above the modern one, it was just under where the ribcage ended (and thus pants went up to that point most of the time)
Thirdly there were outer garments that ween't tight, those were mostly gowns or similar things, they are basically coats, but not just for winter. They are loose and go over the doublet (or whatever you had in place of a doublet)

also on pic and here >>9662527
can see when the fashion went from hourglass shape to the peascod shape to look fatter.
Also both of those are kind of special doublets because the outer layers were leather.
Some call it "young's doublet" or "fencing doublet" because it was partly for fencing training which was an important activity for young males. But it's good as an everyday wear, especially if you expect to be shanked on the street

and here is one from a larp.

Also have to do some actual work, will be back later. If you need more stuff or different ones just ask

>>9662549
hungaryfag, what's the name of your landsknecht? I'll be seeing some of the guys in this pic this weekend, might as well greet them for you.

>>9662568
Where are you located, artist-anon? I'm sure there's a group of larpers near you that's willing to pose. It's usually considered poor form to take pictures at larps without extensive collaboration with the staff, let alone upload them online. There's plenty of people that don't want to be publically associated with larp, so larps often have rules against taking/spreading pictures. It's easier to find a group or club and photograph them someplace else.

Here, we love Hungarian for the picture-spam, but there's plenty of people that are less happy with it.

>>9662624
there aren't that many hungarians in the LKL so by that they can recognize probably (this year I brought a rotte though) But if they remember my name then it's Sonir

>>9662626
>It's usually considered poor form to take pictures at larps without extensive collaboration with the staff, let alone upload them online. There's plenty of people that don't want to be publically associated with larp, so larps often have rules against taking/spreading pictures. It's easier to find a group or club and photograph them someplace else.

I've only seen this from US guys en mass (individuals are a different story), and in some airsoft larps where some participants were policemen or soldiers so it was more work related that they didn't wanted any pics of them on the net.

>>9662634
Seen it in the Netherlands and Germany as well, it usually comes down to a mixture of professionalism and the general consensus on LARP from their living sphere. Heck, I've spent a long-time actively removing anything LARP related I was tagged in from my social media out of fear of social repurcussion that'd follow.

Most girls at a club aren't going to want your D when your main profile picture is you in your kit.

>>9662666
in germany most people I've talked with is only vary of facebook as far as I understand but otherwise had no problem with their pics going out to the net. Although the copyright stuff is way more serious there than in eastern europe that's for sure.
Is associated with larp REALLY that bad? all the german about drachenfest for example were mostly decent and not shitthrowing as far as I've seen

>>9662674
Depends on age mostly, and to some extent where you chill in daily life. If you're a manager or the likes, or just an insecure school kid hanging with the "cool" crowd, I can totally understand not wanting to let your pictures in what normies might see as weirdly coloured pyjamas and foam sticks.

American series ruined the way everybody looks at LARP man. Germany has it a lot better though since it's bigger and better. But still, for some it might just really work against them.

>>9662677
I can understand why individuals doesn't want to share with the world that they are larpers, I'm not arguing that. What I say that though is culturally it's not a shame to be a larper in most of europe. Talked with a lot of people through the years and most of the time places that has a decent larp scene the people in the country either didn't cared or accepted it.
OBVIOUSLY there will be always some shittalking and dung flinging but no witch-hunting like in the US, or in the early years in Russia

What are some good details for a druid, besides a sickle?

>>9663015
A wooden staff.
Walking barefoot.
A small dagger.
Layered robes in earthern tones.
A grey beard.
Ram's horn mounted on a cap.

And maybe to finish it off... something like a big gray beard to show your age and the fact you're in tune with nature by not shaving.

>>9659548
Most times there is nothing like interdimensional travel or such things.

First you have to unterstand that most times, there are no connections between different larp cons. But on the other hand, no larp defines the whole world. So if there is a larp set in country A and another in country B, there is a silent agreement, that these two larp countries are on the same world. And the character you play is from country C. No one really asks about the details when playing.

For example, my healer, Haeran, comes from the northern part of a country far east. He could give details about the north of his country and some general infos, but it's not like he knows every corner of his home country.
And that's the same with the rest of the world. If someone asks where Haeran hails from, he usually says something like "Well, some country in the east. I can't really tell how far it is away... I took me 4 month to travel here. There are some mountains in between here and I crossed a big body of water, a lake or small ocean."
But occasion to discuss a characters background and such are rare.

I'm rather shit when it comes to picking colours, any recommendations for the blank parts to avoid looking garish as fuck ? I got some emerald green cotton for the tunic, ochre obi fabric for the belt and dark blue poplin for the pants, but though I'd rather use them I can use another colour if unavoidable.

>>9663172
I don't have anything real I just want to tell you that drawing looks hella cool and that's some awesome talent you have

SooOo-o, how do you guys celebrate halloween?

>>9663358
no such thing in this country

>>9663358
It's another opportunity to dress up and party hard

>>9663358
I don't need more costume deadlines, thank you very much.

>>9657775
CORRAZINA WOOO

>>9663022
>barefoot at a larp
>EVER

bad idea.

>>9663425
Depends. It's usually alright if you keep clear of battles and crowds.

>>9663425
>if you keep clear of battles and crowds.
so if you keep clear of the larp, got it.

>>9663434
funny way to spell battle games

>>9663434
Eh, I was barefoot at drachenfest this year. The only problem was the omnipresent danger of drowning in mud, but boots wouldn't have changed that.

>>9663425
>all these people not getting the joke

Look at the picture he posted.

>>9663172
Some sort of chocolatey brown? Brown and blue usually go well together.

meanwhile, in america...

>>9664042
please dont remind me

>>9664042

i hate it so bad. how do i get people to larp more seriously around here? they literally have no shame

>>9664042
At least The boffer is blade shaped. Better than dickbat.

>>9664414
I would say brick shaped

Pic from a recent event.

Although planning to replace some of my plate with PU for larp as hauling it all on train to/from an event has gotten old.

>>9664421
The most prevalent US LARPs are all combat based, and the boffer weapons have to adhere to certain size standards to be considered "legal". And since there's so much smacking going on with those swords, most people build dickbats out of heavy insulative tubes for maximum durability and lifespan. Most flatbats are layers of foam camping pad glued together that still meet safety requirements, but are less durable due to their laminated construction.

>>9664514
sadly I know how most of these weapons are made, and the (failed) justifications behind them too, or at least most of them.
It doesn't make them any less ugly.
But I can acknowledge the effort if it at least have an """edge""" and a flat side

>>9664421
I didn't say it was profiled, just shaped. Perhaps pointed cricket bat would have been better discription.

>>9664424
How do I crossbow? It's a rad and underappreciated weapon, but I'm having trouble figuring out where to get one that's larp-safe.

>>9664528
One thing I will say good about the Gorg brick-bats: they at least have grips with an oblong cross-section so you can maintain edge alignment more easily. That's more than I can say for some foamsmiths.

Granted, they're still only a step above dickswords, but I have to give credit where it's due.

>>9664829
I Iove using a crossbow, with a bit of practice you can be lethal during a battle, hunting targets of opportunity (spear/pikemen, archers, NCO's, healers etc).

Mine is a heavily modified Mythlyon one which was converted to active prong. However Dein Larp Shop has a few good off the shelf ones at about 30lb draw.

>>9663358
We have a Halloween event.
Its "halloween" in game. Undead get powerful, monsters get crazy and we lean into it.

Its a blast

>buy item that I really want for my LARP costume
>do some more research after buying it, find something better than previous object
>buy that too, rendering the first object I brought useless
>the cycle continues

help me

>>9665325
>buying things
>not making them yourself

You deserve it

>>9665547
>making them yourself
>not going on deep-sea archaeological dives to get actual artifacts from the time period you want to emulate to use in a game of grown-ups playing pretend

You're not even trying

>>9663392
>>9663397
>>9663417
>>9664977
Ya'll be boring, its a golden opportunity to larp the fuck out of normies on the street.

Thinking about turning the front yard in to a Saw inspired ghost path, and at the end of the tunnel I'll have my brother dressed up as Pennywise and ask how much candy they want (I work at a candy factory, I could probably drown a kid or two in beetus for 5€).

>>9665555
They belong in a museum.

>>9665870
Calm down Indy, its a joke

>>9665807
>Ya'll be boring, its a golden opportunity to larp the fuck out of normies on the street.
to be honest, the player base is shit on the street. I"m not okay with the organizers there either.

Im making a foam spear but the foam I bought (a yoga mat) is a bit too thick for the shaft.
I need to thin it out a touch, whats the best method? Im thinking of sanding it down, but thats time consuming and it potentially wont be even.

>>9665555
>Diving to get artifacts from the period you want to emulate
>Not going back in time to get the items in their proper condition from the people who used it

Stop half-assing anon

>>9657647
I'm trying to make a soldier/town guard looking character. You guys know how in movies there's that one verteran guard/soldier who wears the uniform, but it's slightly changed? Maybe he has an extra piece of armour, or another sword. That's the dude I wanna play for my new character.

Assuming I'm building this costume from the ground up, what do you guys think I should get first? What do you guys think I'll need? Any inspo?

I know what I want it to look like, but I'm not quite sure how to start implementing it. My costumes were always absolute trash tier, and only worked because the people around me were excellent, and some sort of LARP cheerleader effect.


Pic related is the sort of feel I'm going for.


I'm thinking grey tabard and cloth hood/cap with my factions colours will be the first step.

>>9666674
The usual piece of advice when creating the look for a man-at-arms type is to get a gambeson and helmet as your basic garb. Gambeson can be in your faction colors, or you can get it in a solid shade and use a tabard in faction colors over top of it. I recommend the latter, because then you can easily reuse that gambeson in other games. A kettle helm is a good basic one to get for the look you're going for, it's a solid design and it will give the right feel without interfering with your vision or breathing.

If you want a little more armor, I recommend jack chains. They're uncommon enough that most players probably won't be using them, getting you that "uniform but slightly changed" look you want, and they're still effective armor while also being quite light.

>>9666674
Like the other anon said your priorities should be a good gambeson. If you want to go for a tabbard maybe run a chainmail over it as well. Open faced helmet like a kettle helmet or any other simple helmet like a nasal or a spangenhelmet. If you'd like you could paint them as well to match the rest of your garb.

If you're running a simple gambeson don't forget to kit it up besides that. Sew on a small flag or the likes to show your guard colours or signet or the likes. Making one or two fake repairs on it are sweet as well to give it a worn and torn look.

Likewise you could do the same with your tabbard, make it the bog standard uniform tabbard and add things to it. Maybe make it a bit more deluxe, make it a closed one, add some trims or details like embroidery or an applique to show you made enough cash to up your uniform.

>>9666937
>>9666951
Thanks for the ideas anons. I have a friend who made a gambeson, and she's going to assist me with making my own. In the meantime, I'll be making a tabard out of grey cloth, but with my faction colours in small strips on one of the sleeves. I'm making a deliberately plain one, but thinking of weathering it then lining the edges with a small amount of fur. I really like the idea of making a plain one and then embellishing it.

Definitely going to look into jack chains. I've never seen anybody else use them at my larp, and they look kinda like the stuff my character would wear.

What kind of med-fan weapons would be appropriate/usable for a very small person? Or at least not look too ridiculous? Could be either contact or ranged weapons.
By very small, I mean 1m50. My arms are short compared to well, almost anybody else, so something with reach would be nice. I don't mind going the halfling way, but what are some nice usable weapons for this kind of character?

>>9667139
polearms

>>9667139
It's always polearms. No matter how big you are.

Otherwise a crossbow. If you don't have the strength or size to beat people into a pulp. Then don't, get technology to do it for you.

>>9658268

Are there any general guidelines, tips and go-to's regarding kit design? I want to have, eventually, one of those jaw-dropping kits (That hopefully let you fight while wearing them).

While I'm nt very crafty, I can learn, or pay others to make the stuff from me/order whatever, so it's mostly the design I'm stuck with.

>>9668800
Layers, good quality fabric and treating the kit as clothes your character made the in-universe decision to wear rather than nonsensical fancy dress that ends up tacky and/or impractical.

Having a clear goal in mind helps, so that everything ends up looking like it belongs together and says something about the character really helps. What sort of thing were going for?

Making a polearm and its a bit too whippy.
Any way to reduce the whip?
Its ~ 6 feet, 3/4 inch pvc core with foam wrap

>>9668853
PVC core is going to be whippy. I recommend poles from bandshoppe.com instead, they're much more rigid.

>>9668662
your pic is so late 16th century that it's actually early 17th century

>>9668800
there are guidelines but honestly every kit has different ones. The really general ones are waaay to generals like what >>9668810 said

>>9668853
don't use PVC core. Ever. That's the best tip I can give you for polearms. Even bamboo is better. Other options are wood or fiberglass core

>>9668810
>>9669200
Right. What should I base it off of then?
A certain period? Personality? Fighting style (95% of the games I play are combat-oriented)?

>>9669273
well if you already have decent stuff you can start from them and see what could match those for the style and vibe you want and make those.

If you start from scratch then first you need a clear idea what you want, how you want to wear it, what you want to do in it.

You have to consider stuff like will you have armour with it, how warm is the temperature or you want it for every kind of weather, do you want it to be a little more stealthy or can go willd with the colors, what kind of body you have so you can play for your "strengths" in fashion and what you want to hide.
etc.

>>9669285
Got it.
I have some stuff, I'll play around with it and maybe post it later so you guys can tell me why it's shit and I should kill myself for even trying and all that. Thank you!

>>9669299
Most people actually have a certain kind of fashion or period they do love? Don't you have any, how impossible they might be?

>>9669331
I have, but:
-I enjoy a rather wide variety, from early Slav warriors with Shashqas and those horseman helmets to Conquistadores
-I'm a shit designer


Also, what would be some nice colour palettes for outfits? So far I have red/Black and Brown/Blue

>>9669336
the "safe" color pallettes are either next to each oher on the pallet or on the opposite side.

But basically any color can look good on specific costumes, so as always, depends on everything

>>9669336

In addition to the stuff Hungarian mentioned, >>9669285, there are a few other things that could help as a starting point for kit design.

Is this meant for a specific larp(s) with a defined range of aesthetics or something you could use at any random event with a vaguely fantasy/medieval feel? Similarly, are you part of a group with a particular theme; if all your mates are part of a celtic warband you might get funny looks as a conquistador.

What sort of roles do you enjoy playing and would fit the games you want to play? A wizard or shaman has very different requirements than a tanky warrior. What sort of fighting style and weapons do you prefer/have and how much armor do you want, balancing looks/gameplay/cost and what equipment you can practically use while still having fun?

Finally of course there is how much time and treasure you are prepared to throw at the kit. You can make some damn fine kits relatively cheaply but other looks require more effort to pull off well.

>>9669813
Since I figured it might bring up some interesting ideas, I'll use your template:

>Is it meant for LARPs with a defined ranged of aesthetics?
No. Most of our LARPs are pretty open in that regard, and I'd like to be able to take it to all sorts of events like cons etc.

>Are you a part of a group with a specific theme?
Also no.

>What role do you usually play?
A warrior of all sorts. Sometimes I go tanky and meaty, others I'm more dextrous and nimble. I figure the best decision would be a gambeson+maille/cuirass, due to that, so I could take off the metal and run arlund with just the gambeson. I'm very open for others suggestions though.

>Fighting style and weapons
I'm torn between a polearm+sidearm, or going sword&shield with a second sword on me in case the shield 'breaks' (Yeah, our games sometimes have shieldbreaking. Yeah, I know.)
I already have enough weapons for either loadout.

>Armour
As stated, I sometimes like being nimble and sometimes 'medium'. I won't go full-plate but some metal is nice to woo the newbies.


>Time and treasure
Not too much time, okay-tier money, but I'm in no rush so it can be built over time long as I have the final image in mind.

>>9670353
Are you fond of standard themes or like something a little less common? For example try and look into early renaissance Italian footmen and their fashion. Or other late medieval periods or the likes. Everybody has seen the Ketill pants and Tabbard look. And everybody has been thrown to death with a knight in maille and tabbard. Sure you can make it look great (there are some picture perfect costumes out there) but all in all you need to put a little thought into that and really work on all the details to get to that point.

On the other hand, although a little hard to step into if I were you I'd look into some of the more unused periods, Landsknechten aren't too common usually and not too hard although just a massive amount of work compared to most others. A houppelande or a good arming jacket with jack chains can take you very very far in life.

Also, a while ago I mentioned that there will be an all night larp. That larp was held last weekend and there are a few pics from it.
Obviously most of them aren't that good because it was held at night in the forest so the lighting is shit for taking pictures but then again, on the game it added to the atmosphere.

Basically on the game everyone played a soul and they were in the underworld/purgatory/otherworld/whatever.
Fight system was very simple, also nobody had to create a character as everybody started knowing nearly nothing, just woke up there and had to collect memories that could be found in the forest, so to strengthen their soul's integrity, or if they didn't collected memories they could just fade away slowly

Looks comfy.

>>9660547
Realmsie here.
Some people want change and progress to latex, but others are resisting.
Realms combat is really rattatatapping most of the time, but everything except eyebrows to chin is legal target. People dont want to be hit in the head with a latex weapon.

Sure, Popsicle stick weapons dont look the greatest, but theyre cheap, and pretty much everyone can make them.

Does anyone have any pictures of good (High fantasy) mad scientist/wizard garb?

>>9670371
I could happily roll with a less common period, I just figured the Tabard over chain would be the easiest if done well, since I have everything but the Tabard for it.
Landsknechten are cool, but I don't think the work as well by themselves, opposing to beig a small group and up (Please don't halberd me to death)

Perhaps not specifically Itallian Infantry, but what other not too used 'tropes' are there which are not too eccentric to the point I won't be able to pull off (i.e. mongols)?

>>9670353
>a second sword on me in case the shield 'breaks' (Yeah, our games sometimes have shieldbreaking. Yeah, I know.)

Honestly, when it comes to handling shields mechanically, them being breakable is my preferred way of handling it. I know it's not realistic, but it's usually either that or make rules about how big shields are allowed to be, and that triggers my realism autism far worse. I'd rather deal with having to repair my shield a few times a day than try to explain in-universe why nobody has ever thought to protect themselves better by using a *bigger* piece of wood and never will.

>>9671057
>pretty much everyone can make them.
And that's exactly my problem with Amerilarps. A low barrier to entry is good. A non-existent barrier to entry lets in everyone that low barrier would've kept out.

>>9671104
Swiss Reislaufers (think proto Landsknecht but with room for a bit more simplicity.)
Tercios, the Spanish über mercenaries that drove the Landsknechten off the war theatre.
A cavalier or a Roundhead, 2 iconic parties in the British Civil war both with very descriptive styles and background.
A well done Celt or Germanic warrior: sure everybody does vikings but how many sweet Lorica Hamatas and pyama pant have you seen in your life?
Cossacks and their earlier brothers the Kievan Rus (there's a few thousand kilometers between their locations, I know, but sue me history fags. You're nerds anyway.) both groups that don't get enough love down here in the west for all I know. And who doesn't want to wear those hella comfy pants without having to be a viking fag?
Speaking of the East; pretty much everything from Crimea and India. By God man if you show up to your party with a coat of a thousand nails or a chainmail with bakterets you'll be on point af.
1001 Nights in fantasy not enough love in my opinion either.

All in all there's a million things to just steal their style or take inspiration from, and a lot of them underused. I'm sure any history fag wll be able to name you a thousand more as well. Just look for reknown armies, cultural regions far away from yours or succesful mercenary groups and I'm sure you'll find cool styles!

Who makes good pollaxes? I'm trying to find something that's battle ready. I see many with reverse hammer heads as opposed to the bec-de-corbin hooks. Or am I just going to have to suck it up and get something custom made?

>>9672086
>Battle-ready
Are we talking LARP, or are you looking for a legit pollaxe?

Supposing it's the former, I suggest you check out Der Silberwald

>>9672233
Legit. For reenactments and such. Renfaires and all that. Plan on keeping it sharp, so it needs to be able to hold an edge and be functional.

>>9672299
You've never done this before have you

>>9672299
I have. I'm not planning on actively dueling with it, I want it sharp and functional in case I need to use it. As a pollaxe.

>>9672392
Bah. Meant as a reply to >>9672360. Not awake yet.

>>9672392
>not dueling with it
>in I need to use it
For what, that tricky can of hotdogs or tuna that'll cross your path? Besides being a fucking edgelord what would you need a rabenschnabel for?

>>9672460
I don't know, to use it as a weapon should I need to? That's not exactly a lost conclusion. If I'm going to carry it I'm going to be able to use it. Otherwise it's just dead weight. At renfaires they're all going to stay peace bonded. Guessing you've never been to one?

If I want one for dueling I'll get one that I can hit people with without the death. And obviously it won't need to be sharp.

>>9672834
you're the dense motherfucker. What are you going to need an actual halberd for in real life? You can't use it for sparring, you can't use it at most renfaires, and no way you going to get away with carrying at around everyday in the event of muggings. If you want a weapon for funsies, that's fine, but at least admit to it.

>>9672834
If you want a home defense weapon get a gun, just because some dude on /k/ said he fucked up a dude with a zwei doesn't mean you should get a halberd, how you gonna clear a room with a halberd?

>>9672912
You should really learn something about the background of these events before you call people dense, you twatcannon. People carry real, live, sharp steel. People drink. People get stupid. A coworker of mine has had to draw on people in response to them being stupid, usually people who are there as 'normies'. People who get nice and drunk, buy a sword, and who think they're the fucking Highlander now.

In the unlikely event that shit goes down, I'd rather have an edged weapon than not. Especially since I'll be in gear and it's rather hard to fucking conceal a handgun in some of that garb. Since you seem to be the expert here, perhaps you'd like to give some tips on how to conceal a XDm behind a tabard?

Carrying a weapon there with a dulled edge is carrying a toy. I'm not sure how that's exactly a foreign concept. And yes, they *do* fully let you in with them if functional -- they just have to be peace bonded (as I stated previously). Functional or not that's a requirement.

Stop sperging out because someone wants something that doesn't fit your entirely too narrow worldview.

>>9672949
Already have several and carry one everyday. If I'm pulling a medieval weapon off the walls to defend my home, something's gone seriously tits-up. Grabbing one of my rattan sticks would make more sense.

>>9672974
Well son you just did what I said in the first post, you're going to use it to be a fucking edgelord. By God I haven't been to renfaires because I'm not an Americuck, I know of drunk doing drunk things and if you give them a sharp "sword" or whatever kind of bullshit they sell there they might severely hurt bystanders and themselves. In all honesty though with your annoying fucking attitude I'd invest in some decent plate armour because a lot of people are going to want to stab you if you sound as annoying in real life as you do on this Cantonese tunic-layering advice and Reislaufer armour ordnance picture board. Now what I wanna say is, if you want to smack some cunt over the head with a live weapon it doesn't have to be sharp you absolute mong. I could slap a completely blunt piece of iron stuck on a large stick against your head with a bit of swing and still kill you with ease.

Really though, stop being an American edgelord, learn to defuse aggressive situations rather than having to bring yourself and those around you in danger because you can't de-escalate it like a big boy. If you want to play the big man, grow the fuck up, get some social skills, drop the attitude and learn to diffuse situations just like military personell and police does.

Oh yeah, and look into some therapy for your paranoia.

>>9672974
>Shit goes down

What the fuck do you think is going to happen? Someone's going to wander in and start legitimately attacking people?

Tell me more about how you're going to beat a dude holding a gun with your hardcore mall ninja weapon skills.

>>9672974
Can we get statistics on actual violence rates

>>9673053
On renfaires that is. Maybe they all just though the pig thing talking to them was an orc or some kind of abomination.

Ofcourse Chad is going to try and stab (p)orc-anon if he tries to seize his girl for some "roleplaying".

Fucking hell /larp/ you never cease to amaze me. Someone legit wanting a pollaxe for defence in case of rowdy ren-fair patrons.
That's some sperg shit right there.

>>9673206
What, like you've never had to fight for your life at this kind of event. Do you not live on the edge?

...So, assuming I can take the spotlight for a tiny bit with all the pollaxe talking...

Kit anon here ( >>9668800 ), figured I might go for a kind of a middle eastern look, since I'm hyping all over the new Darkest Dungeon class.

Looking for any 'how to tie fabrics in a cool way' like pic related (The helmet stuff, the face mask in a way that won't look sloppy etc). Any other suggestions, referrences and anything about how to go about such a kit, suggested arms&armour (I have a chainmaille, would that fit in? Or should I go for anything else?) and anything else is welcome.

>>9673619
I'm not an expert on middle-eastern inspired stuff, but here's some generic advice:

>Don't show too much skin, actual middle eastern clothes (as far as they can be grouped together over history and geography) tend to cover a lot but with light fabrics. Most importantly, don't be a navel captain.
>Turbans and headwraps are great for standing out. Get one.
>Decide from the start whether to go historical middle-eastern or fantasy middle-eastern, then focus hard on that goal. Don't try to find some middle ground.

>>9673619
For references check out Osprey books, particularly Armies of the Muslim Conquests, Armies of Islam 7-11thC, The Moors 7-15thC and Mamluk Askari 1250-1517. These concentrate on Arabs but there are lots on Turkish and Persian troops and bits on other cultures like the Berbers. Rome's Enemies 3 and 5 cover Pre-Islamic Persia and North Africa/Arabia/Syria respectively. Osprey can be very hit and miss for history but the pictures are great inspiration for fantasy larp kit where historical accuracy is not paramount. /hwg/ on /tg/ has a vast treasure trove of the books.

Wargear-wise, specifics of course vary with withdate/culture. However mail is perfect for a lot of kits either on it's own or layered under lamellar if you want to portray the heaviest cataphracts, ghulams and mamluks but since you mentioned avoiding plate due to weight that the latter is not a great idea. The mail could be worn under robes or made into a jazerant where it is sewn between two layers of fabric lining if you want something more distinctive than bare steel as your top layer. Round or conical helmets with nose guards work well, especially with a turban wrap as in your picture.

Spears, round shields, norman/teardrop shields post-Islam and maces are all good. Most swords were actually straight and very similar to european arming swords, scabbards are worn on baldrics uspended from the shoulder rather than sword-belts for the most part. Sabres were introduced by the Turks and eventually replace earlier styles across the region though some groups like the Tuareg Berbers continue to use straight swords.

Had a great weekend out. Despite the cold and rain still got some good fights down. Plus a photog just show up and take some great character shots with actual lighting and shit.

Anyone else have halloween games?

>>9674798
Nope, but I plan to bomb a halloween party with an overkill costume.

Gonna go as a british safari gentleman dude. Just need to find a decently priced monocle and Im set.

>>9675310
A decently priced young boy to carry your rifle you mean?

>>9671057
>Popsicle stick weapons dont look the greatest, but theyre cheap, and pretty much everyone can make them.
and anal sex is great because it works on all genders?

>>9671379
>Tercios, the Spanish über mercenaries that drove the Landsknechten off the war theatre.
First of all. It's either Landsknecht (singular) or Landsknechte (plural in german) or Landsknechts (plural but using english and a german screams somewhere in the distance)
Secondly, that wasn't the thing that drove off the landsknechte mostly because they were used at a fuckton of places where tercios never went
>>9672912
>What are you going to need an actual halberd for in real life?
from personal experiece this is what I can say: I don't need one. I want one. And that should be enough justification for any halberds or polearms.

>>9672949
>how you gonna clear a room with a halberd?
according to period sources, pretty easily

>>9672974
>People carry real, live, sharp steel.
opposed to the fake, undead dull steel?
Anyway, I got home from the weekend Elder Scrolls larp in Croatia. there will be photos somewhen

>>9675315
>According to historical sources, pretty easily

Sauce pls
Not because I don't believe you, but because it sounds realltly fucking cool to read

>>9675317
here it is
https://youtu.be/bwsUVaa9lKo?t=3047

>>9675315
If you want to clear a room with a halberd and your opponent has a gun you're done for. Getting a halberd for home defence is a meme reason and you know it. For not much more or less you can get an actual gun if you're American or something more practical if you're European. I'm pretty sure halberds aren't the best for fighting in small cramped spaces. Best thing about it will be the shock value of an absolute nutter in his tighty whiteys charging at you screaming about giving your head to his Maestro de Campo.

And for all I knew tercios did pretty much take over the spot as dominant infantry company after the Landsknechte with modern (at the time) infantry pike-and-powder tactics.
But I'm not a history fag so I wouldn't know for sure without doing some backpedalling and researching for a bit.

>>9675315
>according to period sources, pretty easily

Maybe back when halberds where a mainline weapon, not as good as now when the dude has a shotgun

>>9675388
well, that's the point. Obviously grenades and firearms are better for the job but that's a discussion for /k/

>>9675385
yeah but let's be honest. nobody really cares about realistic home defense in this board, or at least doesn't want to talk about it. If they want to they go to other boards.

>And for all I knew tercios did pretty much take over the spot as dominant infantry company after the Landsknechte with modern (at the time) infantry pike-and-powder tactics
not true as Landsknechte were never the dominant infantry company. Nor are tercios. Now if you say Tercios were at some point of time the dominant infantry formation that could be true and I would completely agree with that (although we could argue about how wide we use the term)

Landsknechte were simply the ""best"" mercenaries of their time (and even that is arguable) but at least the ones that had the best fame. That is, after Pavia, and even that only hold out for roughly 40-50 years.

A question that got me curious for a while now. I'm more curious about femanon answers but the guys intrigue me nonetheless.

Do you have a specific archetype you're attracted to? Not personality-wise or even physical traits, but rather kit/character-based stuff like "Pirates", "Vikings/Wild ones", "Knights" or even "Landsknechte." (Looking at you Hungarian)

If so, what is it?

>>9676107
>or even "Landsknechte." (Looking at you Hungarian)
surprisingly I rarely bring that kit to larps, with the exception of drachenfest. I just also reenact landsknechte so I tend to talk a shitton about them because I spend a lot of time reading about them.

As for archetypes I don't have preferred ones but there are some that I hate and try to avoid. Pirates and anything steampunkish for example

>>9676107
Orcs.I guess it falls under "wild ones" as well, because the savage orcs are the ones that do it for me.

A thing I had absolutely no idea about, until I saw an orc at larp with a really well done kit. Im not the most charming person, but Im decently well spoken and not really interested in relationships. I was a fucking autist trying to talk to the orc. Stumbled over my words, dropped my sword at one point, and then left red and embarrassed.

>>9676107
As in, designs that get us hot and bothered? A good shieldmaiden type will really do it for me. Had a close ladyfriend join my larp for a while at one point and she did a kit like that (disclaimer: I had no part in convincing her to do it, she just really likes Vikings). She had to take a hiatus after a few events because of grad school, though.

Cute knight girls are good too.

>>9676107
I'm a knight fag, with an evently focussed obsession, the time period and location for my obsession changes drasticly. I only have one character growing towards them since I dislike type-casting. Going from early knights who weren't much more than robber barons to the Italian Renaissance where there's full books on how the perfect man at court should behave and spending my events honing my dancing, singing, and literary skills more than my swordplay.

The latter is far more fun though, nothing beats an event of learning to dance, writing songs for local maidens (and actually scoring) and then turning them down because love is too pure to be chased by carnal needs.

>>9676240
I dont think you are the only one, the camps at this one larp I attend with the most diverse groupings I generally find the orcs and the wildlings to have the highest couples-to-singles ratio. Beastmen camp would probably be there too if the entire group didnt consist of power playing aspies for the most part.

The civilized human city is like 95% men, but all we do all day is just smell bad, sing bad, eat and drink bad and finish each day by getting smashed by orc groups on the fields, who consist of 60% men and 40% women, who are basically just there for bonding purposes.

I bet you will end up in orc costume within two years if you havent already.

>>9676504
I play basically a WH warrior priest at my game

So it'll be quite a stretch to go to orc haha

>>9676107
Femanon: not really. Though I appreciate good-looking armours, the heavier the better. But I wouldn't say they make me attracted to the people inside of them, just admirative. Also religious-oriented characters, for some reason.

>>9677166
>female WH warrior priest
>mirin orcs

Sounds like the start of a bad doujin

>>9676107
Lurker but involved with the local larping community, I usually find lord type characters most attractive as long as they're older guys. Young ones don't have that air of authority that's so attractive to me.
>Also I just like big bear/viking type guys in general

>>9676107
Not necessarily an archetype, but I've always had a thing for chicks in skull face paint.

Hit me with dem sweet sweet kit advice and criticism pls

>>9678046
your pants are boring.
that gambeson looking thing is rad as fuck.
ask your friend to help you with some color co-ordination.
something doesnt sit right with the gloves, either get ones that are longer (like pic related) or do something about the end of the sleeves

>>9678046
easy mode
>some upper clothing that match your existing kit

moderate mode
>new gloves, possibly longer ones.
>something for upper body
>change the cords on the gambeson
>get a pouch or something

hard mode:
>shirt looks shit
>gloves are shit
>pants are shit
>wearing the gambeson like this is objectively a bad idea style-wise
>basically you are dressed in a shirt and pants, gambeson doesn't count as clothing, it's armor
>hat is questionable too
>belt looks strange
>boots looks strange
>barely can see details on the pic because most stuff is covered in one way or another

>>9677920
No one likes us short guys

at least we make believable dwarves

>>9678111
>at least we make believable dwarves
Sorry man, the first person I ever saw play a dwarf was a literal midget, so I still wouldn't buy it if I saw you.

>>9678046
Thanks for not having 50 fucking things on your belt.

>>9678046
Asking my friends might work, thanks

>>9678062
First of all, thanks for the comment!

Now some questions, supposing you don't mind:

>Something for upper body
As in, a cuirass? Or something that'll go between the shirt and the gambeson?

>X is shit
What does it mean? Bad quality? Design-wise? Could you give an example for pants that aren't shit, for instance?

>Hat is questionable too
(It's not clear from the picture, but it's a Cavalier, like in pic related. I can take a photo of it from a different angle, if it helps.

>Wearing the gambeson like this...
Is there another way of wearing it? Or did you mean the gambeson itself doesn't fit/I should bring back the sleeves?

>Basically you're dressed in a shirt and pants
What (else?) should I be wearing, then?

>>9678268
>As in, a cuirass? Or something that'll go between the shirt and the gambeson?
the later. You need clothing, but I admit it's hard to find something that will go with that gambeson

>What does it mean? Bad quality? Design-wise? Could you give an example for pants that aren't shit, for instance?
bad quality and design. For example the gloves are from a bad material, way too shiny. Either fake leather or chrome tanned to hell and then dyed to shit. Way too modern. Pattern wise you would need longer cuffs for it too. anything from ~7cm to elbow length
Shirt is might be good material, but the pattern looks way too modern as far as I can see it.
Pants is just looks plain wrong, I can't even see what it supposed to be look like apart from baggy as fuck.

>(It's not clear from the picture, but it's a Cavalier, like in pic related. I can take a photo of it from a different angle, if it helps.
better pic would be good, lighting fucks up a lot of thing.

>Is there another way of wearing it? Or did you mean the gambeson itself doesn't fit/I should bring back the sleeves?
I mostly meant that you are wearing a sleeveless gambeson just on a shirt, without any other armour. That just looks wrong as weird as fuck and not in the good way. On the upside I like the gambeson's look. But you either need to put some clothing under the gambeson or more armor above it.
Or change the gambeson to a leather jerkin, thought that's easier to fuck up.

>What (else?) should I be wearing, then?
Better pants, and either get some upper garment that isn't underwear (shirt is technically an underwear in this context) or a way fancier shirt.
As for upper garment you could wear some kind of doublet or if the weather is right for it some kind of gown (although gowns without doublet also looks strange) There are other possibilities of course but I don't want to go into specific directions right now.

>>9678343>>9678268

Judging by the hat I think he's trying to pull off a lederwamse look instead of a gambeson. On that note: get a lederwamse.

>>9678362
Google gives me nothing, but I'm guessing this is the German term for a buffcoat?

>>9678114
cool cool cool

Can't let us have anything then, eh?

>>9678343
A better picture of the hat. Do note that due the thing on its left that makes it look really thick is a shadow.

>Changing to a leather jerkin
I'd rather not, mostly because I want some sort of a light armour on me. It's meant to be a 'light combat' kit, for when I need to be more dextrous (Or just cannot be arsed to wear proper heavy armour).

I'll look into something I can wear under the gambeson. Wearing both a doublet and a gambeson where I live means you're going to melt, most of the time.


Do you think with enough work it could be nade into a proper impressive or at least above decent kit though, or should I go for a different direction altogether?

>>9678374
It's a Jerkin from what I managed to translate.

>>9678568
Just find a proper way to own it my dude. If you're just somewhat short but stocky you can still rock the dwarf aesthetics (I've seen people 1.75 tall who can make it, to a degree.)

I have another very short friend, but not bulky at all who took it to the whole semi-dexfagging thing: He closes in on bigger guys to disarm them, gives the whole "weaker but skilled" show against the "I'm a big boy with a bludgeoning weapon" opponents, etc.

I can try helping you find your thing if you wish

>>9678693
I was just shit posting man
Being short doesn't really matter outside of feeling child like talking to tall people.

Its larp, im pretending to be cool anyway

Hey hey folks.

>>9657647
>>9660523
>Dystopia Rising is actually descending
Jesus fuck.

>>9658268
>should I use a regular, white button down shirt with a popped collar
Oh, god no. I was too late to stop this...

>>9659731
Excellent work. Its a fine 14thC kit!

>>9659805
>The helm weirds me out a bit with how it combines the full aventail and bretache (both bascinet-style fittings) with a Norman-era conical helm. Works fine for fantasy though.

The helm is nearly 100% accurate. pic related, showing the nasal attached to the cammaille and unlatched, from a German effigy of c.1350 Freiburg Cathedral.

>>9659805
>The white of the gambeson does make it look at bit naked for want a better term, at the hem and the exposed sleeves.

Why? For the vast swaths of men on the field, undyed was just more cost effective. Furthermore, exposed gambeson is not uncommon, and depending on the thickness, may be a quilted defense in its own right.

>>9662460
Depends, where are you local? I would suggest historic recreationists and cosplayers before larpers in the US, for example.

>>9664042
Fuuuuuuck

>>9672086
>>9672299
>>9672392
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>>9672974
...WAT.

Goddamn, its been a while. So much thread to catch up on.

>>9678861
Welcome back.

I keep forgetting that "Gropey" is not a normal name for others to hear.

>>9678693
>Wearing both a doublet and a gambeson where I live means you're going to melt, most of the time.
do you live on the sun?

>Do you think with enough work it could be nade into a proper impressive or at least above decent kit though, or should I go for a different direction altogether?
It's already a good enough kit. If we look it at effort wise, just get a different pants with better colors and slightly better pattern. Then if you get something above the shirt (it could be something thin, noone really cares) that isn't white then the gloves won't be pointing out either

>>9679354
>>9679354
35c-40c at its hotter days
30c-35c at its colder summer days
most events are around summer because lmao rain

>>9679383
>35c-40c at its hotter days
that's totally doable. Even in armour.

>>9679387
you dont understand, its also humid.

>>9679397
I completely understand. Also that it's doable. Been there done that.

>>9679398
The Hungarian knows no mercy

>>9676107
A dashing young Sir Knight always gives me something of a flutter. Although it has to do with being clean cut and sharp looking with a good smile and effortless chivalry and manners without being awkward or spaghetti. Just being attentive and courteous to everyone and straight-laced is a real breath of fresh air.

>>9679383
>>9679397
Not me but supposing I know who it is, thanks my dude.

>>9679354
Are we talking about something long-sleeved that'll cover me entirely, or something short-sleeved for the layering effect?

>>9679759
long sleeved. Always long sleeved. Short sleeved stuff usually must be very specific to be actually look good

I need HELP

My gambeson order fell through and the jupon I got is borked. The hem of the sleeves is far too short and the padding itself isn't what I requested in my order. Does ANYBODY know of good, reliable gambeson makers who do custom orders so I could get a jupon like pic related? I want a padded garment with THICK protective sleeves and thick padding that hangs over the thighs so I only need to wear a breastplate to reduce my weight. I know several good armorers but unfortunately I don't have any contact with people who do custom padded armor.

>>9681151
http://aketon.pl/index.php?view=442

http://www.gambeson.pl/medieval-on-line-shop/14th-15th-machinemade/jupon-of-charles-vi.html

I've heard that the second gambeson maker is quite good. But I've never bought anything from either of them so you should propably look for reviews of them.

>>9681161
>http://aketon.pl/index.php?view=442
Holy crap that looks good. Stupid affordable too, 200 euros is pocket change for that kind of gear. I'll see if my Euro contacts know anything about it before placing an order.

>>9681151
>>9681161
If you need some buyers reference for shops, I bought a gambeson from steel mastery earlier this year.

http://www.steel-mastery.com/en/ready-to-ship/medieval-gambeson-3-layers-padding

Wanted a 'use and abuse' gambeson for cheap so it seemed like the best option, but when it arrived I was thoroughly disappointed. I ordered a size large, but it was still tight across the chest an shoulders when wearing just a tshirt (chest measure is about 103cm with a sweater on, size chart says 103-109 = L) and there was barely any room for my arms (below average thickness for my size class). My little brother who is almost two sizes smaller than me had a better fit, but it was still tight for his neet otaku arms.

Gonna look for a personal tailor to commission one instead next time. Or make one myself if I dare.

>>9681483
Steel Mastery from what I've heard is generally a bad option because it either takes outlandishly long to get your order filled AFTER they took your money or they get it done fast and it's shite.

So what are the best post-apocs larp in Europe atm? English friendly ofc.

Legit question:
Do people actually do LARP of "I cast level 10 eroticism, you turn into a beautiful woman."

>>9683227
if they do then it's probably just bedroom roleplaying rather than larping.
Then again the amount of clusterfucks we've seen through the years from the US guys it's still a probability

>>9683235
Well people generally don't larp getting killed by a Rhino in a bedroom, that sounds like adventure larping. I'm guessing a japanese schoolgirl really needs a good roll in order to avoid that.

>>9683238
>Well people generally don't larp getting killed by a Rhino in a bedroom
you don't know our life

>>9681551
The problem I had with my order was that I payed through paypal, but they didn't accept the payment so I had to get a double confirmation from paypal where the issue with the payment was, and the entire process took a week before they accepted the payment and shipped my order.

The shipping time wasn't tooooo bad, but the package rotated around Ukraine for about two weeks and then took one week to arrive at my post office, but seeing as it was all in-stock items I bought, I should have gotten my order the week after if it was any other shop in the europe.

All in all, 4,5 weeks from placing the order to receiving it. Glad I didn't make a custom 300€ + order, then I'd be very upset. Tried to soften the gambeson up by wearing it every other day for an hour or so but the arms are still to tight, so its just gonna be used as a loan piece for small guys and women at our practice hall.

>>9683227
Heard stories of people having big open field battles that are decided by dice in the US, and the side roleplaying is also dicing or through magic level systems but probably not to the extent of your example.

>>9683245
>and the side roleplaying is also dicing or through magic level systems but probably not to the extent of your example.
Wait. Are we talking about only heavy rules? because then US larps go way over that.
But if we talk ERPG then it's not part of larping, only a byproduct of nerds get into bed together

>>9678861
Holy shit, thats a real helmet? And welcome back Gropster. Where you been?

>>9683249
So there's no dice in that?

Why do American LARPs have all those stupid cliches (foamdildos, 200 called abilities, not allowing newbies to have nice costumes etc) and why aren't they solving them?

>>9683887
Because we're soft. Everyone wants to be a winner, some of them all want to be the big hero, and absolutely no one will tolerate feeling bad. Part of the problem is how land use works which can limit some larger projects, but really it's all attitude. If you feel like having a laugh, google 'Knight Realms' - it's probably one of the best LARPs in the US right now but it's an absolute shit show. Costumes are great for a US LARP but it's got a bajillion tags and you quite literally pay 10 dollars for a single experience point, the thing's a fucking ponzi scheme but people eat it up. Much like DR, it's likely got a limited life span left, been going 15 years strong or something like that so I wouldn't be terribly surprised if it carried on for another decade.

This goose reflects my feelings about the absolute state of American LARP.

>>9683526
I've encountered larps that used dices. I've even heard bedroom toys that had dices.

>>9683887
literally too many reasons to list them all

>>9683887
I honestly think the biggest reason is the old guard. The people who run these games made these games and don't want to improve.
At my Amerila rp, the old players wear the shittset outfits, but are the the higheSt levels. they don't want to give up all of their "skill" so they keep the status quo

>>9684120
then again, nobody makes their own larp with blackjack and hookers or when they does the same shit happens. Or people just not interested in it for one reason or another

>>9684132
I can only speak for my region, but there are way too many larps. 4 fantasy, 2 post apoc, at least 4 vampire games, and a pile of chamber larps(changling etc) off the top of my head

I can't make a larp and have it succeed, have to compete with at least 1 other similar game on the same day.

>>9684145
>I can't make a larp and have it succeed, have to compete with at least 1 other similar game on the same day.
if you are better then you aren't competing. If you make a different kind then again you doesn't have to compete.
Then of course you can put it on a date when there no other similar games there.
Also you don't have to make an event every second week.

meanwhile I've found the official photos of drachenfest, will post a few (and when we get to the new thread I will post the TESC pics too)

Maybe a fun project

I've been planning for a while, but want to make more solid plans moving forward.
I'm buying land to make it for a good larp campsite. One where we can change the scenery, build shit and have a better experience overall.
My plan so far just includes the basics(npc house/showers/storage) and small open concept tavern.
Anything else needed before I start to approach games? I want to seem like I have my shit together before approaching local games. This is America for the record

>>9684250
>This is America for the record
Then probably you have your shit together compared to them

>>9684267
that's basically why i bought land.
got tired of just camping in the woods. it's fine overall but makes no sense that people wouldn't have built something over the past 10 years. Want better games. My plan was make a site, then use the funds from that to make a game.

>>9684294
well for me one of the most important things is campfires. That you can legally make campfires even if it's a drought or something. It really ads to the atmosphere and even post game discussions are better.

Also what really worked for us to tie together the people in the community is when they themselves built the in game "buildings" and changed the landscape.
Although that's probably not a possibility for you guys

kind of hate the image size limit. I find it bullshit that I can't post images bigger than 4mb on cgl

>>9683221
oldtown festival is rad

>>9684239
That hat looks maximum comfortable.

>>9684412
I like these guys - mainly the shields. Who are they?

>>9685723
They are from the copper camp also known as the NO FUN ALLOWED camp.

>>9685724
OOC or IC?

>>9685729
IC obviously. I don't know their lifes, probably great guys when not playing wankers.

Boy have I got a story for you, /cgl/.

>attend new sci fi/horror airsoft larp at local airsoft arena
>attendees can either use venue's weapons, or check in their own to "the quartermaster"
>either way, need to go through quartermaster first to get your weapons
>most people check in standard m4 or ak-looking things
>Then one guy submits a custom, sci-fi looking rifle, real nice, people were wanting to take pictures with/of it
>not much happens, we wander around, engage in rp, try to find real evidence that an alien's hunting down the crew
>combat eventually happens, people start checking out weapons, Custom guy gets his own no big deal
>then he dies, has to return weapon, get put in zombie-esque makeup and has melee things only
>everything's going okay
>all of a sudden, he starts hollering from halfway across the arena
>rush over, custom guys in a frothy rage, gets pulled by a ref to another area to calm down
>after asking around, here's what happened
>quartermaster guy checked out the dude's sci-fi rifle to one of his buddies
>said buddy essentially couldn't figure out how to operate it, and when it wouldn't fire, starting hitting it to get it to work
>custom guy rounded the corner and saw this, broke character, went fucking nuts

And then everything else just fizzled out after that. custom guy didn't get any reparations because arena was protected because of some waivers, but the owner of the arena essentially told the LARP runners to fuck off.

What I'm getting at, is:

Would you ever play a game where you couldn't control where your weapons were?

Would you ever let your weapons be lent out at random?

>>9687292
>Would you ever play a game where you couldn't control where your weapons were?
>Would you ever let your weapons be lent out at random?
yes but I would only bring loaner weapons and nothing fancy. Also I would be perfectly clear if someone breaks them they pay them.

If I personally know everyone from the playerbase this might change.

>>9687292
Holy fuck this makes me so mad
Who in their right mind would just give such a weapon to their friend?

As for your question, I'd only bring weapons I'll be absolutely okay with being damaged by others.

For most of my weapons, not at random, but the guy who lends them would bear the responsibility if anything happens to them.
In another note, what style of kits work with a Sidesword? And which with a one-handed Messer?

>>9687722
>In another note, what style of kits work with a Sidesword? And which with a one-handed Messer?
anything late medieval or early renaissance

what do

>>9687795
move to Croatia and become a successful interior designer. After years look back to this moment and laugh

>>9687798
that is your dream, hungary-anon

>>9687806
actually it's an old /tg/ copypasta

>>9687871
>Become Bunduk

Ayoooo Mount&Blade is the shit my dude

>>9683887
>not allowing newbies to have nice costumes
This is shitty, but let's be honest, it's a tiny edge case that became a meme here because of how ridiculous it is. It's not a common thing at all, even for US larps, and I feel like even some of the shittier US game runners would say it's stupid if you told them about it.

>>9689333
thats the case with the one i tried to go to
they wanted me to "tone it down" because the older guys wouldnt appreciate a newbie wearing nice armour and garb and that i needed to earn the right to wear armour
it was a "full contact" boffer larp even!
fuck american larps

>>9689821
This is so dumb it goes all the way to profound.

>>9689821
I love that sheath. Gotta make one like it
Thanks, gonna go perfect with my oni-orc.

>>9689821
So does that thing actually work as a quiver?

Or is it all decorational

>>9690420
not mine
it is inspiration for a yabusame archer setup
but considering that they use that quiver for horseback archery i think it would work well enough
i havent made one yet to try it out though

How do I LARP this guy?

>>9690827
Ayyy my HEMAbro

>Pick a fighting style, preferrably one recognized by a certain group in your world (For example if there's a group of dane-axe wielding Nords, be a Nord-originated guy who praises its use)
>Actually be good with that fighting style
>Pick a second fighting style, preferrably something commom AND that can be related to a certain group (Common stuff: Sword&Board, Elvish dual wielding, etc)
>Find some somewhat logical arguements why 1st style masterrace and 2nd style is shit (Rolling with our example: The Nord dane axe has true strength and great reach. Shields are for wooses and swords lack enough cutting power or something. Could be reversed-Swords are nimble and the lack of shied makes the Dane axe pleb tier)
>Pick on users of the 2nd style, challenge them to duels and be an in-game lowkey racist if your community accepts that kind of roleplay
>??????
>Profit (Right Honorable)


Had a plan to play with 2 more HEMAfrienda the LARP version of Silver, Fiore and Liechtenauer. Havn't got to it yet but maybe at this DF or something.

>>9690864
WE ARE STILL GOING TO DO IT (the moment we all get money and/or time to hit DF this year)

>>9690827
shittalk italians left and right and call them gay whenever it is possible.


Also meanwhile we reached autosage so here is a new thread
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