/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I found this lolita in the wild on the new episode of Project Runway and thought it was cool seeing a lolita in mainstream media. She's cutting fabric at Mood.

>>9631750
christ her hair is fried

>>9631750
Oh is Samantha Rei still competing?

>>9631748
But which edition is this?

Is $400 too much to pay for an AP Fancy hospital set?

>>9631750
Someone please fix her bow

Anyone pick up something from the Holiday Collection release? Or the rest of the Halloween Treats release?

>>9631895
I got the skirt and beret. And I'm pretty happy to read it's polyester twill and not polyester chiffon/snag material.

Has anyone bought directly from Maiden Clothing since they got their new website? They say they have overseas shipping but I can't figure out how to enter my address into their checkout page....
>I just wanted to buy a dress for my gf why is this so difficult

>>9631922
Like specifically, I have no idea what to put as my "prefecture". I don't see anything that looks like California in the drop down menu. Also the site complains that my zipcode is more than 3 digits??

>>9631895
I got the red jsk+clip and the bat clip.
>mfw I used points for the clip

>>9631825
Yes, prices are already dropping for this series. The hype does not seem to be very lasting. So it's up to you personally if it's worth paying that much to secure all those pieces at once, right now.

>>9631895
I got the OP and am still pissed that it has to be dry cleaned. I love it yet I'll never buy ap pseudo chiffon ever again. I'll stay with cotton and thick material releases (w/o print) which can go directly into the washing machine.

PS: I discovered that the nearest dry cleaner here is like half an hour away by car and it has shit ratings so the next closest with a good rating is over an hour away...I hate this.

>>9631825
Depends on what color the set is. Black and pink aren't worth it, but sax and white are higher in demand. I personally think it's fine since head pieces from the series are hard to come by.

>>9631922
You're suppose to email them what it is you want to buy with the url, price, item name along with your address, unless this changed recently..

>>9631750
More ss plz.

>>9631944
Wtf I throw all my AP chiffon in the washing machine and it comes out fine. I out it in a clothing bag in a gentle cycle and then airdry. I'm actually quite happy how easy it is to wash my chiffon dresses, cause they dry so quick snd barely need to be ironed.

>>9631895
Wtf AP this shit all looks like aliexpress crap

>>9631970
The tags state that it has to be exclusively washed with petrolium, if it's getting wet it'll decolorate/stain

>>9631973
It is, the whole series is 'made in china' and I just had to resew all the buttons on the dress because they were falling like leaves.

>>9629178
>polyester chiffon
What's wrong with that fabric?

>>9631944
What? The website states that it's made of twill, not chiffon. You can even see the fabric texture in the stock images.
>>9631983
Again, what? All AP says "dryclean only" on the tag. Most of it fares just fine in water.

Gulls, where do you get your accessories? I'm primarily a gothic lolita and while I have no problem buying main pieces and blouses from brands, I often feel like their accessories and headwear are overpriced for the quality. Even so, the selection on Taobao isn't great for gothic and I'm wondering what brands/indie/taobao you would personally recommend for being worth the price?

>>9631785
Yep. Bottom 3 this week, but thats the first time she looked even remotely bad. Ironically it was Good vs. Evil themed with her being on the evil side. I would have thought she'd have rocked it, but somehow she got really caught up in an ugly textile then bad fit, which is unusual for her. Oh well. She's still in it :) and I wish her all the best

Does anyone own Robe de l'agneau and can help me out with the measurements?
The bust measurement is listed on lolibrary as 88 on size one and 93 on size two, but it also says it has shirring.
Does anyone know if the measurements listed are the max or if it stretches a bit more?

>>9632011
It goes a bit lager with the shirring, but the dress isn't very forgiving since it's velvet and velvet always feels tight. I'd say +2cm on bust an waist if you want to fit a blouse underneath and being able to breathe.

Did anyone else order this brown Sweet Dreamer witch hat?

My SS just sent me a photo and the brown is way off. Left is what I ordered, right is a shopped approximation of what my SS received. I'm not sure if Sweet Dreamer just took wonky stock photos with weird lighting or if they fucked up my order. SS is asking me if I want to return the item or still get it and I'm not sure what I should do?

>>9632038
Actually, upon looking at the other photos on the original Taobao listing, it does seem like it was a wonky studio lighting thing. A little disappointed I didn't look closer before ordering since I thought the color contrast between the ribbon on the hat was cute but not too upset since I have a ton of brown things to match.

>>9631999
Polyester then.

And I've never owned one of these pieces before. I know that the btssb tulle, chiffon whatever poly monsters go in the washing machine just fine. But this dress is like a feather or something, the quality is pretty meh and I'm scared it'll fall apart even on handwash option. Also I'm really scared of discoloration

>>9632047
You don't need to worry though. AP chiffon will not fade with a simple wash. I have like 5 different dresses of this material.

>>9631973
It almost looks like AP is copying To Alice.

>>9631985
It's very light, not at all what you'd expect for an autumn tartan release, and prints on it tend to look washed out. I love tartan and I like the cuts but noped out as soon as I saw it would be that goddamn polyester chiffon again.

>>9632052
So you think I can actually wash it at home? What should I use to wash it? Any special solutions, or just safety net and off into the washing machine it goes? (On handwash obviously)

I applied to CoF over a week ago and haven't heard back. My profile picture is me in lolita, what's taking them so long?

>>9632074
>what's taking them so long?
Having to manually check and accept dozens if not hundreds of other applications

>>9632074
Tbh it's not worth it

>>9632088
>>9632074
anything that's worth seeing on the good or ita end of the spectrum gets posted here anyway, i don't even go on cof

Anyone knows where I could buy some plain lace topped OTKs (with lace that isn't absolutely godawful) like pic related? Bodyline is out of them and brand ones are a pain to find.
Can't find them on taobao either,the lace is terrible most of the time.

>>9632077
I just got accepted so it seems complaining on /cgl/ worked
>>9632088
I want to post my outfits so I can get some actual feedback in the CoF threads

secrets

>>9632119
If anyone cared they'd know, you don't have to come here to remind us of it every week

>>9632121
I find something endearing about secrets anon in a retarded sort of way.

>>9632094
https://lolitabutiken.se/index.php/cotton-lace-top-otk-socks?___store=english&___from_store=swe

They also have offwhite lace topped Meta otks in stock

Is Street Fashion Europe going to announce their next event soon? They seem to be letting it slide a lot later than other years and I can't help but wonder if they're starting to go down the TPC route.

Does anyone know what happened to Heart E? They are still in business but haven't updated in over a year

I'm an ex lolita. I was into lolita fashion for a decade and I absolutely loved it. Everything that I bought was either cute or I thought "could work for lolita" (talking about normie wear of course). I've recently left lolita and I fucking feel liberated. I thought lolita was making me feel free and fun and stuff, but god, ever since I sold/gave away all my wardrove I feel like I can finally be myself again. While I was wearing it, it didn't seem like it, but lolita was stopping me from doing and looking better. It's so weird, but lolita doesn't seem as pretty or well made as I usually thought it was.
Has anybody else felt this?

>tfw found my lolita idol (from when i was a newbie years ago) on IG
>tfw her account is private
But it was linked on one of her friends blog with pictures of her (they met again after some years).
S-Should I try and follow her? I'm so nervous, she doesn't even know me. I just wish I could thank her for introducing me to lolita.

>>9632164
...this sounds like a ton of you problems that got attached to your involvement in the fashion.
I'm having a hard time even trying to relate to anything you attempted to describe here.
Seems like you yourself are not sure what the real problem was and why leaving the fashion makes you feel better?
you might want to take it here in any case: >>9629318

>>9632164
I haven't been in it too long, but I got in "late" in terms of age. I think a big issue with Lolita is the social media aspect can overwhelm and over-influence people. Like, having a community is great, but I keep seeing 20-year olds getting way, way too caught up in it and the only way for them to re-balance things is to totally leave the fashion cold turkey.
For me, I think what helps is I got through "buying phases" that have larger gaps then most people and in between there I re-connect with sort of my normie self.

>>9632164
Yes of course, and we also still come here even though we don't wear lolita anymore

>>9632170
Try it! I'm following two lolitas I idolised with private accounts, I messaged them when I sent a follow request and they didn't reply but did accept the request. My own account is private too and one of them followed me back.

>>9632001
Morun x Muuna Stoik has really reasonable prices and pretty nice quality. Antique Beast is also really great.

>>9632181
I did it! I'm so nervous man, I hope she doesn't think i'm some weirdo or stalker and accept me. She only has 70 people following her

Which brands do Halloween lucky packs and when will they announce it? I got one from Moitie before but last year they didn't have them.

>>9632193
IW have done those for the past two years I believe, they may do it again this year but it's not a permanent thing so I'm not really sure. Something to look forward to I guess.

>>9632164
>Everything that I bought was either cute or I thought "could work for lolita" (talking about normie wear of course)
>lolita doesn't seem as pretty or well made as I usually thought it was
>collects literally anything "cute" and maybe loliable
>surprised to find out it's not high quality
Yeah this is definitely a you problem. Enjoy being normie.

>>9632164
post old coord pics

>>9632164
different, but I'm happier since I stopped trying to make my normie wear loliable. O had a shit ton of weird unflattering girly clothes, like I'll get a t shirt with a flattering neckline instead of the t shirt with stupid ruffles or half ass puff sleeves.

>>9631748

Probably the wrong thread and sorry for that otl but I haven't been on cgl in years, anyone know how much would R-series dear little friends in blue jsk that's only been tried on go for these days? Same for Krad larente lost in sea dark blue jsk, only tried on. I was getting into lolita a few years back and then stopped, now I'm getting interested again but discovered gothic is way more my cup of tea now

>>9632248
put them up for auction and see.
I know lost in sea is pretty well-liked, so you'll probably get a good price for it like new.
also, look up previous listings for these dresses on LM.

>not related to you, but I have been seeing so many "how much would this go for" and "does this really go for xx???" posts, which I find annoying. the answers are out there.

>>9632164
>can finally be myself again
I have a feeling you probably haven't put in the proper time to actually know what that really is if you've let something as simple as clothing hijack your definition of self.

I ordered my halloween costume from bodyline through buyee.
I just got the email saying it arrived at the ss but in the email it says it's shoes????
I didn't pay for any inspection plans but would they tell me if it was the wrong item? I mean, they have to open it for consolidating anyway, right? does anybody have any advice/experience with this or buyee?

>>9632011
I have the size 1, my bust is 85 cm.
It fits me very nicely, but despite the shirring going further than 88cm, I wouldn't go over 88 for the size 1 cause it definitely won't fit nicely if you do. Even if you take the corset lacing out, I suspect.
Also, you need a small-ish waist, mine is 65cm and I wouldn't recommend it to someone who is over 68cm.
The shirring seems to be more decorative than it is functional desu, and the corset lacing ribbon is quite short which is also an indication they didn't add the shirring so it fits larger sizes cause then the ribbon would be way too short.
Hope this was any help yo you anon.

>>9632164

I have the opposite problem. Keep trying to leave lolita but really nothing beats quality for price like secondhand IW, especially the plainer pieces that lolitas tend to overlook. Even saved a few of my less OTT AP dresses to wear on weekends because pockets. Though I guess I wasn't someone who tried to lolify everything into kawaii, I tended more towards wearing my burando in non-lolita ways. Halter tops with my IW skirts and cardigans with my AP jsks without petticoats kinda stuff.

Maybe you can suggest a few better brands I should be looking at? There has to be something other than otome that lolitas move towards after they leave lolita, surely.

>>9632279
I thought by now otome kei wasnt a thing anymore

>>9632345
It's not necessarily a term that's used but the aesthetic exists.

>>9632164
>>9632254
pretty much. i used to have somewhat of an obsession of lolita and it dictated everything. i haven't left lolita and i don't want to, but it took me a while to give myself space for other interests and ways of dressing. in a way, lolita, what i used to define as "being myself," was not allowing me to be myself. it's definitely a part of me, a pretty definitive part, but it's not the center of my life now.

that happens to a lot of young people though who tend to hyperfocus on an interest.

>>9632119
What was with secret #4 being removed for being "too mean?"
The mods have allowed bandwagoning and bullying that ruined both people's reputations and entire businesses, #4 must've been calling forth cthulu himself to have gotten removed.

>>9632353
The secret crossed the line from calling her fat (which while mean would be fine) to saying she should relapse into her ED to lose weight

>>9632066
Personally, that's how I do it:
- Turn the dress inside out so the delicate chiffon is inside
- But it in a clothing bag to avoid snags
- wash on delicate cycle on low temperature (like 30°) and for short time (I think I use the 45 min setting)
- then air dry on a hanger

All of my dresses came out just fine without a single snag, bleeding colors or faded prints. Though, you need to remember the print on AP's chiffon is usually not very vibrant in the first place. So when it comes out of the washing machine you might think "Hmm, did the print fade?", but you probably just remember it more vibrant than it was.
I'm always a tad dissapointed how these chiffon prints are less vibrant than other prints. This was the main reason I didn't get Halloween Treats.

>>9632352
I was going to say exactly what you said at the end of the post. Happens to me all the time. I give too much time and money to my hobbies, and when i retrieve my self control, it becomes boring.
>>9632272
Idk, send them a message or something. Just in case you should also ask for advice in the bodyline thread.

>>9632353
>#4 must've been calling forth cthulu himself to have gotten removed.
That is the funniest thing I've read here in a long while

>>9632038
I bought this same hat in that color and your post made me happy. That camel brown would've been so much harder to match than that darker brown.

But that is pretty damn different in color.

>>9632393
Yeah! The darker chocolate brown is definitely easier to match. I just thought the camel brown was super cute since the dark brown ribbon stood out more but at least I won't have to struggle to build coords with it now.

There is something really satisfying about watching the price of an item jump up dollar by dollar during the last few minuets as the timer runs down, and then throwing a bid down with 3 seconds left on the clock and winning.

>>9631895
>Triggered because everything in the colour that I want is sold out
I need to stop relying on Angelic Pretty Paris, unless they will be selling the rest of the Halloween Treats release too??

Why do some people say Lolita is dying, despite the fact it's more popular than ever and even entering the mainstream world? The only answer I ever hear is that MMM and a couple stores people never cared that much about closed.

Why do some people say Lolita is dying, despite the fact it's more popular than ever and even entering the mainstream world? The only answer I ever hear is that MMM and a couple other stores closed.

>>9631966
Thank you! I had no idea, there is nothing on their site mentioning this.

>>9632411
A lot of stores closed in Harajuku and brands went defunct, there is not as much innovation as before, a lot of lolitas only wear it to meets and events.
I agree lolita is not dying at all though.

My SS quoted me 6100 yen shipping for 10 items (blouses and one skirt). Is she wrong or did EMS get more expensive again?

>>9632431
Maybe it only fitted in two boxes?

>>9632433
Nvm she just emailed again that they made a mistake.

>>9631944
If it's like most of their chiffon pieces, you can machine wash it very easily. I love ap chiffon, it washes beautifully and barely wrinkles.

>>9632164
>It's so weird, but lolita doesn't seem as pretty or well made as I usually thought it was.
No I completely agree, most brand, especially prints on either cotton or chiffon, looks terrible and cheap. I went into CC when I was n Tokyo and I was so disappointed. Less is more.

>>9632399
You could always swap out the ribbon for a lighter one if you'd like more contrast

>>9632440
Compared to what does it look terrible and cheap?

Whats the largest wardrobe size you have seen?

>>9632458
That one fat girl who does haul videos but never wears the stuff she gets.

Have any of you bought tights from h.Naoto before? How are they?

>>9632449
Compared to normie clothes that are above h&m tier. It just feels costumey seeing it all on the rack in person. I think it has a lot to do with thin material and trimming, it hangs so odd on clothes hangers. It's just not cheap designing clothes in small batches, some corners have to be cut.

>>9632567
Do those normie clothes have original prints? I just bought a normie scarf with a really nice print but it was 150gbp. When you say better than h&m it could be anything.

>>9632353
>4 must've been calling forth cthulu himself to have gotten removed

>>9632164
I still have my brand but I'm fucking terrified of wearing it anywhere. Terrified of stains, terrified that gaining a little weight will stretch a seam, terrified that I'll be secretly photographed instead of forwardly complimented.

I upgraded my normie wardrobe (re $50-80 circle flare tea dresses with vintage style prints, light petticoat) and just today when I went out with my bf and I got five different compliments! At work I'm known as 'dress girl' because everyone knows me for wearing cute dresses now.
I'd get comments with lolita, but like, in cautious polite reserve. And mostly questions about what I was wearing. It was so exhausting. Lolita just feels so over the top and expensive to me now without much payout besides the friends I've made.

>>9632635
The fact that you still come to lolita general makes it seem like you're not over it

>>9632654
I'm really not. I love lolita, just wish it wasn't such a pain in the butt.

>>9632635
It sounds like lolita is stressing you out more than it should, anon. It's just fashion- it shouldn't make you feel terrified of anything. I understand you wanting to take care of your clothing, but what makes you feel this way? Is it your own self image or outside opinions?

either way, at the end of the day- dress for only yourself and fuck what others think. Easier said than done, I know, but clothing shouldn't stress you out this much.

>>9632567
>thin material and trimming
And you supposedly went to closet child? Yeah, no, I'm calling bs.

Have any lolita groups been removed from facebook or have I just been culled from the online comm group?

>when you are removed just before you move back to the area after months of being away

>>9632056
Really? I think they're using polyester now because they can get more vivid and detailed prints, as well as it being easier to care for and holds up better over time

>>9632755
Nayrt, but on the polyester the prints have more shine, making the colors seem more dull as the light is reflecting back. Not to mention polyester is more uncomfortable against the skin, yet AP continues to use it as lining.

>>9632635
Out of curiosity, what style of lolita were you wearing before? Some of how you feel (the lattermost part) reflects how I feel but I thought the best solution would be a style change...

>>9632778
This was my biggest surprise when I got brand for the first time. I handmade my first JSK and used a very soft breathable cotton voile to fully line it with. I was very surprised when I started buying brand and it was faced on the bodice, and polyester lining for the skirt.

>>9632778
My polyester prints are all more vivid than cotton, and they've been lining with poly for over 10 years

>>9632723
Lol okay, well from what I saw I wasn't impressed, it felt kind of bad actually, I became a little disillusioned on that trip. It made me question being into the fashion, most stuff just didn't look well made.

>>9632778
IW does it too and it's fucking awful

>>9632778
>>9632797

Natural fabrics have a higher tendency towards static cling. Polyester fabric, especially fabric made specifically for lining, does not. That's the reason they use it. Lining fabric is also often fray proof, which helps with making thin chiffon dresses.

Learned this on my first all-cotton skirt. Thought it would be more breathable with cotton in cotton. The skirt folded itself up into pretzel shapes all day long. Finally put it in a donation bin and avoided cotton lining ever since.

>>9632855

Still waiting for you to name drop the brands that are nicer and better than Lolita.

>>9632863
Then enjoy waiting, my opinion is purely anecdotal and based on impression, take it as you will.

wow its been a while since I've seen AP sell out on their releases

>>9632869
translation: i have no examples so i'm going to post something cryptic in an attempt to preserve my dignity

Does anyone wear sweet lolita to work?
I see casual ALL THE TIME so I'm asking specifically about SWEET. My work has a very casual dress code but I feel like if I turned up in an AP print they might suddenly need to re-clarify what's considered as "casual".

I've worn jsk's with cardigans over them and printed tights etc. before to work and even a tardis dress and a wonder woman print but they were all still muted colours like navy, white, brown and black. Pink, yellow, purple I worry about attracting too much attention despite being the same clothing styles.

>>9632898
The style and print probably matters way more than the color. If you showed up in pic related no one would care. If you showed up in whip magic, people would probably care.

>>9632635
i feel some of this. I've worn a lot of alternative fashion over the years, but the amount of attention that comes with it really drags me down. I started a new job a couple years ago that pays much better than anything I've had before, so I have so much more money to spend on niche fashion, but the job is so exhausting that it's easier to wear boring things on the weekends just so I get left alone. I've been lucky to have received almost entirely positive or curious reactions and have never been harassed or bullied for altfashion, so that's not really a concern, but it's just so tiresome.

>>9632037
>>9632275
Thank you so much for the info, that's a great help!

Does anyone know the max measurements for the Napoleon cut of Magic Princess JSK? I can't seem to find out online

Does someone know what this is all about?

>>9632752
Our Comm recently did a purge and sent out an invite on who is wanting to stay in the group. Just reapply and kiss the Admin's frilly butt to rejoin.

>Go on a complete cleaning spree. Throw away as much as possible
>Find a weirdly constructed rose from my bodyline shoes
>Haven't used them with the shoes for a long time so throw it away.
>Flash forward to meet, want to wear my BTSSB headbow, notice it's missing one of it's weirdly constructed roses.
>I fucked up.

>>9632972
As an admin, don't play suck up. It's creepy and makes us want to avoid you.

>>9632985
I was only being sarcastic.

>>9632977
oh noooo. I feel for you anon.

>>9632831
Cotton had more vivid colors initially because it takes dye better than polyester. Polyester just holds up better over time and washing than cotton. So I'm guessing your cotton pieces are older and faded.

>>9632861
But why not use a blend? Polyester isn't breathable and it's not as smooth. No one wants to sweat in their brand, yet they continue to use 100% polyester for lining and main fabric.

>>9632861
That sounds less like static cling and more like an extremely poor choice for lining material. You do know that natural fiber lining fabrics exist, right? Bemberg rayon is a thing, and my skirts and dresses lined in it sit wonderfully and are breathable.

It would be nice if brands used bemberg instead of poly lining, but it's a lot more expensive than poly so I know that ain't gonna happen any time soon.

>>9632948
Where'd you find this? FB?

>>9632985
One of our admins is kind of efamous and the way some of the comm members kiss up to her is just embarrassing.

>>9632898
>I've worn AP's Melty Cream Donuts, Misty Sky, and Dream Sky to work but I almost always pair them with a cardigan, simple shoes and tights, no petti, and minimal headwear and accessories. I work in an office and my boss never really says anything about my clothes.

Maybe show your boss a picture of what you have in mind if you want to check if it's OK to wear.

why would you even say this? Just to brag?
context: post was a comment complaining about ordering a dress that turns out to be too small

>inb4 "jealous fatty" I just think this was a useless comment

>>9633041
>thinking a BMI of 20 is skinny or brag-worthy
lol

>>9633042
It's not that as it is "I feel kind of flattered brands cater to my size~" as a comment on a post about a dress that turned out to be too small. I see where anon is coming from, that's pretty tacky.

>>9632279
Red Valentino?

>>9633042
It's not the BMI of 20 that is the bragging part. It's acting as if brands catering to her size have anything to do with her, and basically bragging that she never has to check measurements. Like, good for you?? But nobody cares?

>>9633024
FB indeed

>>9633052
>>9633046

I mean, part of bragging about how 'brands cater to my size' is that she's a skinny asian girl. Like 'tehe I'm so skinny that I can fit in japanese burando!'

That being said, she's not special and AP is now making bigger bust sizes so she probably looks like shit in their sack dresses anyways.

>t. skinny asian girl who can't fit in AP

>>9632972
Unfortunately I can't even find the comm in order to reapply to join. There's another comm nearby but it doesn't seem as active.

>>9633022
>>9633023

I thought the anti fraying part was the other reason they stuck to polyester. I have no experience with bemberg though, my local fabric shops doesn't carry anything much other than polyester anymore. The polyester cotton blend my used to carry was a lot stiffer than the straight polyester lining, if that means anything.

(And yes, very poor material choice. It was my first skirt)

>>9632471
the fat asian one that collects them?

>>9632471
>>9633142
At this point I wouldn't sell my dresses just to spite you

>>9631960
>sax and white are higher in demand
white sells for dirt cheap though and is the color i see most often being sold. sax seems to be the only color worth a noteworthy amount more than the others

Posted in the craft thread but idk if it's the right place so to the general I go

Anyone who tabled at a Lolita event, how much did it cost to be a vendor?

>>9633099
Maybe you were banned?

Why does AP Paris slap an extra 100€~ onto the price of dresses? I could order from Japan, budget for customs, and still pay less than the dress before shipping from Paris. What gives?

>>9633322
Probably because of the expensive location and the retardation of the management

Are there significant differences between rereleases made a few years after the original releases of AP's prints? I'm curious specifically about Chocolate Rosette, but other prints (Melty Cream Doughnuts, Misty Sky, etc.) are welcome too, pic related.

>>9632972
I was purged last year from my comm and never rejoined. Still a lone lolita now, too anxious to ask to join again

>>9633023
Bemberg rayon is dreamy. Expensive, but dreamy. Also slippery as all get out, but worth it. I recently found a polyester lining at Joann called "posh lining" that seems less sticky and gross feeling, so I'm trying it out. Also has a small amount of spandex in it.

>>9633367
My comm did a purge. Anyone who's actually interested is very welcome back, there were just a bunch of randos, people who were interested 3 years ago, people from other parts of the country, random relatives of young comm members.

>>9632933
Did you check lolibrary.....they are on there.

>>9633386
speaking of lolibrary... it's nice it's being updated now but has anyone figured out how to search the damn thing by anything other than name?

Am I the only one who is really displeased with brands recently? None of the new releases appeal to me, when it appeals quality is shit. Questionable fabric and trim choices everywhere. Designs either lack originality or are really OTT. I still love the dresses I own but I couldn't care less about anything new.

>>9633401
I only really got into lolita this summer, but I agree. The newest dresses I genuinely really like are from 2014 or before, and any newer dresses I like are just re-releases of old ones.

>>9632948
Seconding this

>>9633401
Which brands are you looking at? I think angelic pretty is very innovative but not taking the direction many western lolitas want.

>>9633423
AP, Baby, Moitie mostly.

>>9633428
Motie has very consistent quality

>>9633401
>>9633428

I agree with you and want to add IW and JetJ to the mix (blaming VM seems kind of redundant in itself since VM always focuses on classic designs and isn't really there to push the envelope). But MMM is dead, as is MM. It's kind of sad, really.

If I want new innovative designs nowadays, I honestly look to taobao or indie designers. People shit on taobao but just saying as someone who owns 80% brand, they're at least trying new things and have really interesting designs.

>>9633378
>>9633367

I was purged from one of the comm pages I'm part of but I'm not surprised as I moved out of the area 2 years ago and hadn't yet attended a meet up, but I'm excited to rejoin next month. I understand feeling anxiety about being let back into the group but don't isolate yourself if you would genuinely like to be part of a community. As the other anon said, genuine interest is welcome for most places so it's unlikely you won't be able to rejoin.

What country are you in anon?

>>9633436
Rarely has anything to grab my interest. Even then it's not "I MUST HAVE THIS PIECE" but more "huh, kinda cool".

>>9633401
Not counting rereleases, I don't think I've really loved a piece since Traumerei. I'm currently trolling secondhand stores and auctions for pre-2010 JetJ because nobody steals my breath away with detail porn like early JetJ. Fuck new JetJ.

>>9632458
My own

looking for advice.

This is my first time buying from a well known/liked lolita resale brand. I ordered a MTO jsk and a brooch and requested a refund on the brooch in may. Flash forward to a couple of weeks ago, they post that they sent out all of the MTO's for that release. I comment that I haven't received a shipment email or a package. They tell me to check my spam, i do and send them a formal email asking where my stuff is. No response on social media or email. I emailed the original seller yesterday and they told me they would a jsk in my size and also email the reseller. I'm afraid that when I asked for a refund on the brooch they marked it in their system as a full refund and never processed my order. How long should I wait until I contact my bank for a chargeback on the 200$ ?

>>9633461
>they would a jsk in my size and also email the reseller
what?
also wait until the original seller emails you back on the reseller's reply.

>>9631748

looking for advice.

This is my first time buying from a well known/liked lolita resale brand. I ordered a MTO jsk and a brooch and requested a refund on the brooch in may. Flash forward to a couple of weeks ago, they post that they sent out all of the MTO's for that release. I comment that I haven't received a shipment email or a package. They tell me to check my spam, i do and send them a formal email asking where my stuff is. No response on social media or email. I emailed the original seller yesterday and they told me they would hold a jsk in my size and also email the reseller. I'm afraid that when I asked for a refund on the brooch they marked it in their system as a full refund and never processed my order. How long should I wait until I contact my bank for a chargeback on the 200$ ?

>>9633466
I fixed the typo >>9633467
sorry about that, and thanks for the advice.

>>9633467
You should give them at least a week to solve it themselves

>>9633409
Mah nigga 2014 or 15 AP were the best years

>>9633437
New things get tried by Japanese brands and we hate it or claim it isn't lolita

>>9633505

All I know is that if I have enough money I would use it to refinance Mary Magdalene. Literally all I care about at this point.

>>9633467
It could be that they're trying to figure out what happened before replying, and that's why it's taking so long

So what do you think will be the next trend/bigger thing? I suspect a Moitie comeback.

>>9633390
I made a comment recently about how the filtering options don't work and the admin said it's never been brought up to them??

>>9633519
lmao no. People have been saying for years that gothic is the next thing to make a comeback but I've only seen people cycling back to late 00s sweet. Moitie in particular just isn't relevant enough.

>>9633390
>>9633532
The search function seems to pick up basic tags. You can add a year, materials, and features as keywords to narrow down your results. For example: "angelic pretty gingham op shirring sax"

>>9633519
I actually agree. there are some trends that I think will lead to more old school Moitie styling becoming popular again (layered legwear, chunky platform heels, etc). Those trends, plus the influx of plaid and VW in japanese snaps also makes me think punk will start to exist again, but in a cleaner more modern way.

On the other end of the spectrum, I've taken to mentally classifying the OTT lace monster trend "neo-hime" and it's starting to actually take on some of those characteristics. blouseless, legwearless coords dripping in lace are cropping up more, the hair is getting taller and curlier to account for the multicolored wedding dresses, and I've seen a few open toed heels pop up. I'm waiting for someone to throw on a tiara and embrace what that genre of coord has become.

Classic-aristo will also get even bigger (and will just be called lolita in Japan b/c unnecessary labels are unnecessary)

>>9633535
>late 2000s sweet
>????
if anything, old school sweet is getting big, not 2010s OTT print sweet.

>>9632567
Were you looking at axes femme shit? Because I avoid it like the plague, but closetchild somehow keeps insisting on stocking it while it's pseudo lolita at best.

>>9633328
+1. It's like they have a burning desire to go out of business.

>>9633544
I certainly hope it's not, I'm glad I can find all my dream prints for cheap
>milky planet better keep dropping

Has anyone here communicated with Japonica Market recently? I have a large order pending and they asked if I wanted an invoice for shipping a few days ago. I replied immediately and haven't heard from them since. I'm worried because they're usually very prompt about replying to me, even if it's just to tell me they aren't ready.

so the time of the year has come where I have to unfollow Lovely Lor on instagram because FUCK clowns

>>9633594
>implying Lor doesn´t look like a clown all year long

>>9633583
It happens sometimes, just send them another email to ask for the invoice again.

>>9633606
I have and they still haven't replied. I messaged them on eBay tonight like it says on their contact page and I'm waiting for a response. I really hope they get back to me soon because I haven't made an order this large with them before.

>>9633519

Moitie's sizing and secondhand prices are a bit of a deterrent. Some gulls pick up old school sweet because a decades-old jsk is typically 3k yen.

Sizing not because it's small, but Moitie lists everything at 82cm bust despite some dresses fitting smaller and other fitting larger. Makes it difficult for those girls who fit Moitie but not 82cm-bust Moitie to get any shopping done when they have to take two weeks to read up reviews on which dresses run small.

>>9633048

Thanks, there's a Harrod's a few stations away, I might take a look at their stuff this weekend.

Anything you particularly like about this brand?

>>9633616
their buying department is pretty active seeing as how they won all my items i bought last night. But they recently just closed orders because they were full so I'm thinking that maybe they're just slow on completing their older orders right now.

>>9633643
Alright, thanks. I did see that they were temporarily not taking new customers so you're probably right that they're just catching up on shipping. I'll try not to be so anxious about it :/

>>9633378
I wish my comm would do this. We have hundreds of members who never come to meets or participate in any discussions and definitely don't wear lolita and it makes me uncomfortable to post to the page, because it's literally full of hundreds of strangers instead of just girls I know. Mods apparently won't delete them because they might still be interested, what if they just can't afford it yet, we can't exclude potential newbies that's terrible! I'm sorry but if someone still hasn't bought a single piece or attended a single meetup after three or four years then clearly they're not that interested. Or if they're only interested in gawking and not participating they can gtfo, too.

>>9633536
mhmm, it works to a degree. But going to search by brand/search by item is pretty useless because it loads for eternity when you try to specify anything beyond that.

>>9633048
Ugly overpriced collab t shirts, sure anon

>>9633663
What my comm did was posted a month long event and repeatedly shared the event in the group. Whoever didn't hit going got deleted but would be welcome back if they requested. Maybe your comm can try that.

>>9633594
Whoa, is that Lor? She gained so much weight...

My sister and mother asked me why burando clothing, handbag and shoes where made of plastic for that price, at the beginning I thought it was like this so vegan can buy it, but after I remembered that japan almost don't have any cows, and they historically produce a very low number of clothing made of foreign material ( I know that burando have some cotton dress but even more normal Japanese clothing that I own are made of polyester ) . Did someone ever think about that or it's just because japan like the properties of polyester ?

>>9632405
Ive been there a few day ago and normally they should have a restock on the halloween collection

>>9633594
she actually looks a lot better as a clown than she does as a Lor

which is really unfortunate

>>9633448
>tfw when all you want is early JetJ and there's no one to throw your money at

>>9633640
Their sizing is pretty consistent though. Like it's pretty save to assume the table ornaments jsk was going to fit the same way as ritual. They also state shirring in the description. I think people the majority just doesn't like Moitie.

>>9633663
My comm is also like this but meanwhile they kept the comm hidden so people who actually wear lolita couldn't find it lol

>>9633692
Can confirm that I've personally been interested in buying Moitie, but have in the end not gone through with it because buying something I'm not sure will fit me is too risky. A lot of the time when buying from Japanese sellers you can't really ask about the measurements either. It's just incredibly prohibitive to people who haven't owned any Moitie and don't know anything about the fit other than the fact is says "82 cm bust".

>>9633682

One of the classic brands did put out real leather shoes, made in Japan, a long time ago. Might still be an entry in egl that talks about it. iirc the shoes were more than double the price of the pleather shoes, not many girls bought them, and eventually the brand stopped releasing real leather shoes because not many girls bought them. Same story with fake fur, some of the older brand items did use real fur, but some Western lolitas found this problematic because fur trade and all that. I'm not sure if the brand stopped using real fur or people have just stopped fussing over them.

Cotton vs polyester is simply trends. Old school is pretty exclusively cotton lace on cotton twill fabric, but recent trends are all about being light and airy and floaty and layers of frothy magic rather than layers of solid cotton fabric. Maybe it will come back once we get tired of looking at dresses that are more air than thread.

Burando isn't actually high-fashion tier anyway. It really only costs about 2-3x more than a comparable normie brand, and most of that extra pricing goes straight into the skirt being 2-3x wider than what mainstream fashion brands produce, and having 2-3x more lace and trim than what mainstream fashion brands normally throw on their dresses. There's just really not that much money left over after that, the last time I saw much nicer lining was on dresses that cost $500 and above.

>>9633692

That would mean you'd have had experience with ritual in order to guess/assume what table ornaments fits like. What do you do if it's your dress? How are you going to have a resurgence of popularity if the only girls who feel confident enough to buy Moitie are the same small handful who already own Moitie?

>>9633702

meant to type
>your *first* dress

I'm NEET for a month or two so in the meantime I would like to use my free time to archive some lolita things for you (like dailylolita images i can salvage or find).
Tell me what you would like and how I can do it and I'll do my best!

>>9633322
Because eurolitas who are terrified of customs fees or who want to "support" AP in Europe are willing to keep paying that much. It's stupid, especially considering that AP don't give as much of a shit about Paris as they do Shanghai, just look at the difference in the parties they throw.

>>9633541
As someone who wears both lolita and what we class as 'aristocrat', to me the trend for tea length dresses look more lolita than anything anyway because of how they're styled in nearly all cases. A full length dress does not maketh aristocrat. The sorts of things that Boz, or Moitie, occasionally things that some of the other brands put out, are closer to a hybrid style. It's all about the overall feel. Aristocrat, in its feminine version, usually leans more towards a much more minimalist level of ruffles and lace and overall fussiness.

>>9633702
No, I wish. The colourway I want of Ritual is extremely rare. But I knew the sizing of Moitie is different from the 82cm they state because it gets mentioned a lot.

>>9633717
Translations and scans

>>9633720
Who does that? :s

So what's the deal with devilinspired giving away free dresses? I thought it was based on insta followers but I just saw someone with less than 600 followers with a sponsored dress. What's the deal?

>>9632948
Which group is that from? I've met the girl the op is talking about and it kind of puzzles me that she would do that.

>>9633301

It really depends on the event and where you're based on. As far as I know Europe can go from 30 to 150€, but no idea about murica.

>>9633723
Nah, I agree. I was being a bit sarcastic, but my point was that longer, more mature classic will grow in popularity. Western lolitas will still insist on calling it "aristo," because they have no concept of what the style looks like other than "long gothic lolita." long classic is still classic lolita; it has every characteristic of the style except ~muh silhouette~

but we know how that goes...

Does anyone know more about the shipping delays of Japan-Netherlands? I've been looking into this for a while and this is still the only message I can find:
http://www.post.japanpost.jp/notification/productinformation/2017/0831_01_en.html
With no source because apparently AFKL decided to only tell Japanpost or something.

>>9633755

I feel you anon, I don't know what's happening but I've been waiting for a while for a package to arrive and I'm a little bit annoyed because of this.

On the other hand, packages from China keep arriving as usual.

>>9633757
Their message is so strange considering PostNL, myTNT and AFKL are doing business like usual. I don't know shit about this industry but surely they are using the same sorting machine. When I look stuff up about it they are all raving about how awesome the new sorting machine is, which btw they started using this August.

>>9633743
They're desperate for positive publicity. Maybe that person approached them.

>>9633755
>>9633766
idk but my burando arrived in NL a week ago and is still listed as "parcel not found" by PostNL
>fml

Where can I find a lace underskirt, similar to pic related but with lace frills? There was a gull who posted about wearing lace underskirts apposed to chiffon, as they preferred the overall appearance. I think their underskirt was by VM or IW?

>>9633779
"Hi I have 10 followers but I'm well known locally I had a few hits back in the 70's, can I have a dress?"
Literally no idea how you'd go about that if I'm honest

>>9633692
No it isn't? I have some stuff that is literally 82cm max, some look like it is about 90 max. Some dresses have shirring that is going to make it 100cm plus, or there is weird shirring that is bust but not waist so the max waist is like 68 sometimes. I love MMM, but you need to know if it will fit beforehand. I have had same cuts in different fabrics fit differently enough that one is unwearable but I'm fine in the other.

>>9633746
OP posted it on her personal FB. I don't know the other girl and so many German lolitas are clueless about the topic.

>>9633802
Can you please share which pieces that are? Looking up the size of similar cuts has never failed me.

>>9633748
Ive reached the point where I'm sick of this longer length lolita getting mislabelled as aristo. Thanks for the clarification - why I misread your tone t b h.

>>9632248
Not very helpful but I'm actually selling those same two pieces in the same colorways. What a weird coincidence. I've tried to unload them irl for $180 but no takers. Good luck with online sales!

>>9632752
Does the comm you're trying to join have "lolitas" plural in their name? If so, Facebook has restricted searches with that particular phrase. Not Lolita singular though. If not, you may have been blocked from the group.

>>9633795
500+ is a lot more than 10 and they've made it pretty clear that they're prepared to pay for positive reviews, so if you promise to kiss their ass they'll probably send you something. Idk if someone of lesser e-fame gets a choice like the really e-famous girls did, though.

>>9633838
I wish lolita groups would change their name for the same reason Facebook blocked lolitas. I used to be a mod and sometimes actual pedophiles have tried to join our group because they thought it was one of those secret child porn groups Facebook has a lot of.

>>9633741
Gib links and I shall save!
I really wanna try and salvage what I can from daily lolita and the like (lunie chan old outfits,some of them are gone from her blog because ded links but i can try and dive through pinterest/tumblr/imageshack/... to find them)
I just don't know how/where to host images.

>>9633802
I've owned a lot of Moitie and agree. For example, Sleeping Garden JSK with the stiff cotton bodice does not give the way the polyester of Holy Stained Glass and Royal Gate do. Another frustrating thing about buying new Moitie is the poor stock photos of just the front of the dress. Neo Gothic Arch was a gamble for me, but when I got it, I found it was actually pretty loose up top. The sizing for this brand is absolutely inconsistent in a way that you don't see from most brands.

Did anyone every try to change the shipping address after ordering with AP? Or tried to ship their tenso package to their shopping service in Japan?
I ordered some stuff and I would like to have it all shipped with my other stuff with my ss, but tenso doesn't allow you to ship domestically without a good reason. I messaged them and I'm waiting for theior answer.

>>9633889
If you log in, the second or third link is your address. Change that from the tenso one.

>>9633890
Yeah but can this be done with an order I already made??
I bought Holiday Collection on a whim and didn't change the address beforehand.

>>9633867
Mega or flickr

Would anyone be interested in HL if it was released in an orange colorway for Halloween?

>>9633880
How much difference is between royal gate jsk and holy stained glass jsk?

>>9633893
You will have to email then for changes. It says in the auto email.

>>9633903
Orange is ugly as sin but if HT did well I bet there is a market.

>>9633641
I don't like everything they produce but there are a number of pieces that feel "fashion" but also feminine and made of decent materials/constructed well which I think is what you (or was it another anon) are looking for. They aren't afraid to work with floral prints either. I think some of the current stuff might be looking a bit more Larme appropriate though. Depends how you style it yourself.

>>9633670
I don't want to derail the thread by posting examples of what I like from the brand but I mostly focus on the dresses. I have no idea about the tshirts.

>>9633428
Are you... a classic lolita, by chance? Moitie is possibly the most timeless of any brand. I don't think even classic brands can compete with its consistency. Baby has always had questionable quality. AP is very innovative and a trendsetter. They're more hit and miss with quality these days but still good.

What is /cgl/'s general opinion on the app ALICE HOLIC?

>>9633941
Why?

>found japanese pr0n with legit mediocre to decent lolita outfits
>sometimes with actual brand
>mfw
I kept staring in horror as that black Baby dress was stained with semen

>>9633951
Genuinely curious if it's worth using for coordinate sharing.

>>9633970
and by watching it you supported them :)

>>9633743
They're giving away free dresses so that people will give them good reviews. That way they can drown out all the legitimate negative reviews they get.

>>9633977
Man,there were such bizarre ones though and I couldn't help but laugh.
There's this one of a gothic lolita who walks into a room and there are two dudes just doing it with a ramen cup (as in dipping their micropenis in it). One on the floor,one on a kitchen table. The girl laughs for two minutes, then eat something of the nip of one of the guy then she takes his peen with chopsticks and starts to eat ramen he puts on his limp wiener with the chopsticks. They're all looking like they're trying not to laugh the whole time.

And it's only the first three minutes of a 30min long video.

I just don't know how to feel anymore, I thought I saw it all already.

>>9633980
Now I found one of a girl in what looks like old school Baby wrap a guy in tinfoil and making him lick her legs.

>>9633978
The SouffleSong dresses are being given to Lolita's through a website called Devilinspired, which is a taobao re-sale website.
I have an issue with these reviews though because a lot of Lolita's don't mention that the dress was given to them to review and don't mention that it's a sponsored post. Does it still count for honesty? Not sure.

>>9634044
If they make a video about it and don't mention it's sponsored they could get in trouble with YT for violation of the guidelines

>>9633980
link? Sounds too weird not to watch

>>9634044
isnt it really obvious something is sponsored if someone's giving out a discount code for a shop they don't own?

>>9634044
if they say "i was sent x" or "x sent me this dress" then it's made to be pretty obvious and i don't see an issue with it

but if they only say "i got x dress" it gets a little shady. nuances.

>>9634059
Yes, but according to both YouTube and Instagram guidelines, you must state that it's a sponsored post.

>>9634073
Oh yeah! I'm always happy when it's mentioned that the dress was given to them instead of saying "I bought this at shop xyz! Use my code!"

>>9634052
I might get banned for posting it because it's a blue board here, do you have a throwaway email i could send it to?

>>9633903
you betcha!! I try not to wear crosses though so I wouldn't buy it but boy would I lust after an orange colourway from afar.

Pics from iirc a fucking Meta tea party, holy hell

>>9634101
I might be wrong in that it's a brand tea party, but it also might be my brain rejecting that it happened

>>9634102

>>9634101
I thought about flying out for this. Glad I didn't...

>>9634101
>>9634102
>>9634106
This looks like the "lolita" tea party at some crappy small town anime con.

>>9634107
Deets?

>>9634101
do you have a link to the event page?
I can't believe this. It's too small and horrible looking to be an actual event that any rep from Meta would fly to attend.

>>9633806
One example is stained glass (under bust with a chiffon overlay ) to rose cross jsk (under bust but polyester only) for example. Similar cut, the former has lace detailing and a side zipper as difference. The bust in this case means less but the waist is different enough. In general I'm in the cusp between fitting into non shirred and not so I don't have an easy go to besides seeing what others do.

The ones with bust only shirring are more plain so harder to compare. I also have ones that are full shirring but clearly some are more accommodating than others. Fabric and age are what I think is the main factors but again you won't know unless you see it irl.

>>9634084
The moderation in here has gone insane
I don't sorry, but maybe you could post some keywords that would help me google

>>9634111
It *was* an actual Meta tea party, but it was also at some comic convention

>>9634111
It was at Metacon.

>>9634129
>>9634126
"Metamorphose Lolita tea party at Meta Con 2017"
The bad lighting in these makes the pictures even sadder

>>9634132
Who was in charge of this? Meta con? Did the local lolita comm not care to protect Metamorphose?

>>9633970
There's a girl on girl video with both actresses wearing old school lolita from Genki Genki that I have actually wanted to buy for ages.

>9633980
Another weird one that I found a long time ago was a girl in old AP going to some kind of porn casting thing

>>9634132
I don't understand why cons do this. They obviously haven't convinced normal lolitas to go buy a ticket, just people who would have attended the con anyway wearing a lolita dress because of the dresscode.

>>9634132
>that person without shoes though

>>9634132
There's no tea in there. Don't call it a tea party ToT

>>9633717
Anon please just go through egl and try to archive everything you deem valuable. There is so much fucking content. I've tried to start with every post from July 2008 up but there's just so much. For the broken Photobucket links use the "photobucket embed fix" extension. If you're really going to do it, thank you so much in advance!

>>9634132
>all those awful wigs
>is that girl wearing goddamn cat ears?
>those girls with ballerinas flats or sneakers
>that girl who's fucking barefoot
>paper plates and paper/plastic cups
It looks more like a princess party uwuwu thrown for an actual child than a tea party (is there even tea at all to begin with?) , much less a brand tea party.
That's the tackiest thing i've seen in months

>>9634158
>you deem valuable
I'll try! I hope I won't miss anything since my definition of "valuable" and yours might vary.
Should I screenshot it and save it on flickr? I'm a total noob about where/how I should host.

>>9634132
WTF. I live a few hours away and was considering going to this but the tea party required you to wear at least one Meta piece so I decided to just wait until my wardrobe was better...it looks like some of the girls aren't even wearing anything remotely close to lolita. What.

>>9634102
Can someone spot the meta items?

>>9634132
Imagine spending money on bringing a guest like Meta to an event and then giving them this shitshow.

>>9634132
Group shot is a bit better but I guess it's because you can't see a lot of each outfit

>>9634180
I have who went there and she had a good time.

>>9634180
I wonder how much the guests from any given brand care about outfits and presentation on their customers. We're assuming that they think of lolita in terms of rules and standards as we tend to when they could just be super happy that anyone cares and is wearing it in the first place.

Why do people suddenly not like Haenuli anymore? People seem to be shittalking the brand everywhere on here.

>>9634132
So... where are Meta in all of this

I wish Lacemarket's search was a bit more intelligent. I just discovered slashes don't separate words so putting coat/jacket in the title made it unsearchable as either.

>>9634214
i would say that it isn't such a sudden occurrence

i don't buy from nunu myself but based on my friends and the claims of other people here, it's mostly her dramu with reselling cheap accessories at a big markup, possible art theft, shoddy print/construction quality, and not very interesting designs. people have had issues with her and her work for the past year at least.

>>9634227
search engines aren't designed to work like that in general. try putting the word or between your terms

>>9634132
What did they charge for tickets?

>>9634177

Actually I think those are the maid/butlers.

Thoughts on spraypainting bodyline RHS?

I have bad experiences with spray painting shoes before but I don't remember the material, or if I did something wrong, but it flaked immediately.
I really want to make these gold (the red part, not the sole) I got them really cheap so it's nbd if it doesnt work I guess.

>>9634180

idk, If you go off >>9634194 it doesn't look that bad. About half the attendees actually look like they dressed well, another handful look like maybe beginner lolitas who still followed most of the rurus.

And going off how the girls in maid dresses seem to be standing in >>9634132, it looks like it's a combination maid/butler cafe and lolita tea party, which actually sounds fun. That would also make >>9634102 a photo of the servers and not the attendees, and for a con maid/butler cafe those outfits aren't too bad. It doesn't look as nice a hotel setting, paper cups and plates are definitely less than elegant, and the attendees do look a bit frazzled, but that's the con setting for you, looks like some of them were lugging their weeb purchases to the tea party, which gives us photos like >>9634101.

idk, I'd probably have gone if I live nearby, provided the tickets reflected the con setting.

>>9634288

Angelus leather paint.

Shoes flex when you walk, any kind of non-flexible paint will flake off when you walk and is a generally terrible idea.

>>9634194
I guess this is where school photo day-chan is from. >>9629232

>>9634291
Great! Never heard of the stuff. Thanks anon!

>>9634194
Does anyone have any more photos of pancake-hat-fork-prop-chan? That coord is fucking adorable from what I can see of it.

>>9633556
Milky planet already had its drop and is going back up. I speak of this as someone who bought 2 of them for $80 each early in the year. They are beautiful. I don't see them staying in around sub $200 prices much longer unless in terrible condition.

>>9634214
Someone in her comm had a personal vendetta against her and has been stirring up shit for years. Eventually, some of it stuck.

>>9634323
Wasnt that because she would buy things from girls in her comm with the "friends discount" and immediately turn around and sell it at a mark up to girls in the western comms?

>>9634311
It's pretty meh actually. She posted these on CoF.

>>9634333
Damn. I like the volume with her hair, the cute prop and the hat but the rest is sorely lacking. What a shame.

>>9634297
>>9634291
i'm not sure how leather-specific paint would react to shoes that aren't leather? floral spray paint is the go-to for most shoe spray painting endeavors, so that's another way to go that is tried and true.

>>9634135
I wonder how big and active that community is.

>>9634216
Sitting with whomever took that photo.
She's the one wearing Rose Palace in the group pic. Keep in mind that Kuniko Kato long left Meta, so it's another designer who represented the brand that weekend. Sorry, I don't know her name since I didn't go.

I hope it doesn't deter Meta from coming to Midwest (or back to America for that matter), but I don't blame them if they don't want to do anything with the animecon.org people in the future.

Does anyone else feel sad when a fatty or ita buys one of your listings?
I'm happy that someone bought it, but still kinda sad for the dress

>>9634349
i've never had this experience but a similar feel
>tfw a fatty/ita buys something you want

i have fun thinking about how gross they'll look in it though.

>>9634349
>>9634351
Do you mean on lacemarket?
How do you know if the buyer's a fatty or ita? Just by the picture on the profile?

>>9634349
Hmm, I never really look into who's buying my stuff so long as they have good feedback. The stuff I generally sell are too small for me, so I'm not too concerned on whether they're fluffy or not.

I've had one experience of selling something in person to a youngin' at a con swap meet.
iirc, I sold off a petticoat and an IW blouse. She could be potentially been an active comm member, but she seems to seldom be online (which is fine, I guess). I remember she'd always attend my lolita related panels at that con, but I haven't seen major improvement over the years. Idk. Maybe next year, now that she's much older than when I first sold her my stuff, she's able to put together a proper coord. I'm just kinda sad that I couldn't take her under my wing personally. Being a non-Japanese lolita 10 years ago was tough, and I see little excuse in making the same mistakes as I did
(and then I see the cat ears girl in the metacon pic, damn).

>>9634351
I know this feel too anon.
>>9634355
looking at their lacemarket pic and a lot of people use the same username all over the place. I just get bored/ curious sometimes.
>>9634363
trying to guide people never seems to work. I feel if someone is gonna be good they will put in the effort on their own eventually, if not then forever ita, and there is not much that can be done to change that

>>9634342
Nayrt, but they sell pleather paint as well.

>>9634349
I feel the same way when a scalper buys my stuff. I wish LM was better about refusing sales.

>>9634370
Yeah, no, I definitely learned that the hard way over the years. I've also given up recruiting people to join the comm.

>>9634168
Don't worry, every bit of saved information is good. Imo the easiest way to do this is to copy the link of the chosen entry, visit web.archive.org (The wayback machine) and put it into the "save page now" field. But saving pictures and uploading them on flickr, imgur or similar image hosting websites sounds like a good idea too. Though I can't really help you with which website would be the best for that.. Maybe just collect them until livejournal websites really close down?

>>9634381
>>9634342
I see trustworthy tutorials for both methods, I'm going to go with the leather paint and try the floral spray paint later if it doesn't work. Thanks for the suggestions!

>>9634214
Can't speak for everyone but I noticed that in my community there always was an undercurrent of not liking Haenuli for various reasons that was kept quiet because talking shit about a brand others like is faux pas, but now that more instances of shady behaviour are piling up, people feel more free to express their opinion.
>tfw agree with most of it but I still really like Just One Bite

>>9634406
Livejournal is going to live forever

>>9633970
I bought BTSSB's Slow Motion Bouquet because a girl in a porno was wearing it (also it was 4000 yen and at that time that = 25 USD)

Anyone know if Angelic Pretty is going to do some kind of Halloween event in Japan/Tokyo?

>>9634470

You have better luck looking at La Foret's event calendar. AP will do whatever event La Foret is doing, being that they're in La Foret.

The last couple of years Tokyoites have been doing some odd new "tradition" where everyone shows up at Shibuya crossing on Halloween, so my guess is La Foret and AP will still be doing some small promo to try and sell Halloween stuff in the week leading up to Oct 31.

>>9634487
So no like actual party, just a potential novelty fair or something like that? Guess I'll just bum around Shibuya in some frills

>>9634214
Everyone says print quality is bad or quality is down, but no one gives specifics or which pieces. Just One Bite in jacquard is something I own and it's amazing for example. Her early releases aren't very good in quality or construction, but I think that's to be expected.

>>9634406
Sounds good toto me! I'll begin archiving everything i can from daily lolita when i get home from the hospital and give you guys a flickr link so you can have an idea on how it'll look and tell me if you want something else.
LJ days are dear to me, so being able to save some of it would be my pleasure

Sounds good to me! I'll begin archiving everything i can from daily lolita today and give you guys a flickr link so you can have an idea on how it'll look and tell me if you can think of anythe improvement (i think about making an album for every year)
LJ days are dear to me, so being able to save some of it would be my pleasure

>>9634509
Thank you for doing this, anon. Our historian lolitas are so important. I always wish anyone cared about the pre-LJ days to archive that. It would've made the old school community so happy.

Archive anon here, working on archiving dl outfits on flickr rn.
I'm keeping one picture per outfit and i'll be making a single file for everything before 2007 because there was barely any post at all

>>9634574
Oh,forgot to add, should I archive "itas" as well?

>>9634517
Wait, there was something pre LJ?? Tell us more pls

>>9634125
>on 4chan
>mad at ancient global rule keeping pr0n relegated to certain boards
>the mods are crazy!

>>9634349
no, because being a perma-ita is kind of rare and many people progress and get better at coording.
I also try not to shoot people down before they even take off so...I'd wait to judge the actual coord.

New thread >>9634523

>>9634504
I disagree. the earlier stuff had much better construction and quality, but that's because she had a good, stable factory. Then the factory owner had some sort of shady issue and packed up and run in the middle of the night. She found out after the fact and lost all her backup files when the factory owner dipped, and then her original design files when her computer caught on fire? It's kind of tragic because I believe Angel of Music was the last series to get made by that factory.

I was a part of the res for the Starlight series and I remember she was trying out a new factory for that. They messed up and made all the dresses twice as large as the measurements called for. it sucked because, even after sending the batch back for fixing, when I got mine it was still too big and I had to sell it.
It's tough because if she took a break to find and test a new factory (delaying current series indefinitely) she'd have risked losing the momentum and name she built on previous releases.
I do wish she'd release some well-constructed solids with nice lace again, but she'd probably have to make them all herself for them to be really nice.

Western indie brands don't seem as ambitious. they kind of make what they can, when they want, and then it's up to luck and a good rep if people remember you/like your stuff well enough to stalk you for new releases.
it's a way better practice to have the brand's desire to produce and the market's desire to buy meet in the middle. But I guess that only applies for people who want to serve an international market.

>>9634577
yes. it's always nice to have worn photos of older pieces to look at.
maybe clear milanoo disasters can be skipped or go in a separate album, replicas too?

>>9634698
maybe i could do that then, just put milanoo/handmade itas,not even or barely lolita outfits and bad replicas in a folder.

>>9634622
You're reaching anon. Cgl has always been a blue board, but you used to be able to post outward links to things that were on topic as long as you noted it was NSFW

>>9634349
Maybe you just sell super cheap shit that attracts itas in the first place. Expensive brand itas are pretty rare..

>>9633583
they sent out a mass email saying theyre backed up a few days ago "kindly wait your turn"

>>9633970
link it anon