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Post general con creeps to pedophiles and rapists. In lolita, on Facebook or at conventions.

>> No.9552274
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9552274

There was a man, Randy Williams, who was a photographer in the NC con scene. He was convicted last year on child porn charges. And then messaged my minor friends trying to defend himself.

>> No.9552321

Me tbqh.
Don't come to Norcal lol.

>> No.9552322

>>9552274
Predators are absolute scum but those targeting minor are absolute trash
We should form a yankee cosplay/lolita group, catch them and chop their dick off

>> No.9552340
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9552340

To the anon that placed your hand on her shoulder during a selfie, you're not a creep. You be doing your thing bro. She was being a bitch and a cunt.

>> No.9552342

>>9552321
J-jaidin lockhart??

>> No.9552343

>>9552340
Are you talking to yourself...?

>> No.9552344

>>9552322
I'd love to see a Yankee cosplay/jfash group!

>> No.9552530

Wish I remembered this guy's name, but when I was working at the maid cafe at a con last year he was one of my customers. Kept talking about being a photographer and seemed vaguely annoyed that the convention had official paid photographers for the maid cafe already. Kept asking if he could get pictures with the maids and I told him it was fine, and to just ask. What he actually wanted was pictures of one particular maid who was very beautiful and had long legs. He asked her later for a picture, and instead of posing with her he had her follow him to a secluded area and tried making her pose seductively so he could take photos. She figured out what he was up to pretty quick and noped out immediately.

Found out later that he had attempted the same thing with a local dance group where none of the members were older than 15. Some girls that I befriended much later were discussing the con with me (we were all there but didn't know each other yet) and this guy had tried the same thing on them.

About a month after the convention there was a big thing on the con's FB group about this guy. He was actually homeless and had some felonies on his record, and there were more than just the three cases of harassment I knew about. During that one weekend, he hit up so many girls that it seemed everyone had been harassed by him in one way or the other. His whole thing was getting girls that looked a bit shy or whatever and drawing them far away from the crowd to pressure them into making sexy poses for his camera.

Wish I could remember his name so I could properly shame him here.

>> No.9552592

PSA for all con goers; Girls, please stop touching girls, thank you. And what I mean my that is I get groped a lot at cons by other women without consent. I am not a sexy cosplayer, they think it's funny because "lol it's not creepy cause we're both cute girls". But really it is; when you reach out and touch a person in a crowded situation, how am I suppose to know that a) this is a joke and b) you aren't a creep?

So please, girls, stop touching people just because you don't look scary. That's not a "reason" for it to be okay.

>> No.9552593

Whatever became of Gamerfan?

>> No.9552599

>>9552592
How are they touching you?

Once some girl started putting her greasy hands all over my brand withit asking (touching and feeling on my dress and bodice) and it was really awkward, but other than that, I've never had anyone bother me.

>> No.9552603

>>9552599
Mostly boob-cupping. They're looking for a gasp or a shocked reaction and then are like; "lol! Don't worry, I'm just a cute girl~" and on the one hand I'm relieved that the situation isn't going to lead to anything bad, but on the other hand it's a lot like shouting "it's just a prank, bruh!" and that's not nice.

>> No.9552605

>>9552340
>>9552343
Context: In some other thread, a cosplayer got mad because a dude (the one telling the story) wanted a selfie but didn't want to do the hover hand so he touched her shoulder.

>> No.9552606

>>9552603
You are literally a female autist.

>> No.9552608

>>9552605
It happened in AX. Then he called her a cunt when she called him a creep. Bitch got what she deserved.

>> No.9552609

>>9552603
that's definitely weird and uncalled for
you should tell them to piss off I:

>> No.9552610

>>9552606
You think it's ok for girls to touch other girls without asking?

>> No.9552611

>>9552592
This used to happen to me ALL THE TIME in high school, for the same reasons. I'd get mad and say I wasn't comfortable with it but they'd laugh and keep doing it anyways. Used to be spineless so I just put up with it mostly besides the anger, didn't stop being friends with anyone because of it. Thankfully they all grew out of it.

>> No.9552615

>>9552606
You must be one of those "teehee all us girls are at least bi lol" bitches

>> No.9552649

>>9552606
Must be bait, how can anyone be this stupid

>> No.9552666

>>9552592
>>9552611
What? Is this a thing girls normally do? This has never happened to me once. Why would you touch someone's boob?

>> No.9552676

>>9552666
Nayrt but some girls watch too much anime I guess. Like in love live nozomi grabs everyones boobs all the time and its played for laughs, because sexual harassment is totally ok when done by females right~~? Teehee.
I had a weeb classmate pull that shit on me once but I instantly slapped her so hard her glasses flew off her face. She tried to laugh it off but never did it again, lol.

>> No.9552679

>>9552666
Nice trips.

>> No.9552688
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>>9552676
I kind of want someone to randomly grab my boobs. I get that most people dislike random touching but I think it would be neat as long as it's casual.

>> No.9552693

>>9552688
That's too lewd anon
I can hold your hand instead

>> No.9552696

>>9552606
Plot twist: the autist is you!

>> No.9552712

>>9552676
absolutely this.
I used to be one of those awful female weebs who would do that, because I had seen Haruhi Suzumiya do it in my teen years and thought it was funny.

>no, i didnt have a lot of friends

>> No.9552716

>>9552688
Maybe not random people, but between friends I'd be okay with it. Kind of besides the point though

>> No.9552737

>>9552593
I didn't see him this year but I'm sure he's still around being as sperg as ever. He tries to be a photographer but he's awkward and people just tolerate him til he goes away than actually enjoy his company.

>> No.9552870

When I was 15, some guy groped by butt at otakon during a photo. But that was 5 years ago so I guess I can't so anything about that now

>> No.9552879

>>9552606
>someone's an autist because they don't want to be sexually assaulted by someone of the same gender

w h a t

I hope you're a troll. This is one of the things that upsets me the most and the reason i stopped going to cons, girls thinking it's okay to literally grab you in a private place just because you're both girls.

>> No.9552899

Male here. Never took pictures at a con before because I thought it was bothersome for them plus don't they find it weird that some stranger has a photo of them?

>> No.9552974

while cosplaying Sakura from CCS a group of guys in masks approached me asked me for a pic and they were holding up a sign that said "LOLI HUNTERS." They didn't talk in their normal voices and kind of just did raspy grunts?? I agreed to take a picture with them since I figured it was just a joke and they wouldn't actually do anything to me anyway.


Bf was there and was really bothered by it even though nothing happened in the end. In hindsight it was pretty creepy and maybe I should have said no. But where do you draw the line between generic socially inept con-goer and straight up creep?

>> No.9552995

Apart of Lolita Amino and one guy is notorious on the app because of his creepy demeanor. Early LA days, Online name is Steracia but he gives out his full name, general area, and his job. Even admits he's over 45 and that ringlet hair is his fetish. Turns out, he has a history. searched online for the same handle and he has a deviant art filled with pictures of himself ms painted as a little girl in different life threatening situations. He's on multiple fetish pages regarding "Damsels in Distress" like old western movies with girls tied on train tracks. He only joined LA because little girls in frilly dresses= fetish playground for this sick fuck. He even made his own Roleplaying community for Lolita and it's still up. Searched his name in the Milwaukee area and even found his place of work. I'm surprised he wasn't registered as a sex offender.

>> No.9553046 [DELETED] 

>>9552899
I don't think so? I think they expect to get picture requests, never heard of a girl who would deny them or think they were creepy.

And it's not bothersome, so I wouldn't worry about that. It's just nice to know someone liked your costume enough to want a picture of/with it. You're not bothering anyone by spending 10 seconds getting a picture.

>> No.9553050

>>9552899
Feel free to take pictures, nobody really finds it weird or bothersome. They may be a bit taken aback if they've never been asked for a picture before, but most cosplayers are used to it and appreciate that someone likes their costume enough to get a picture of/with it.

>> No.9553070

>>9552899
They literally want the attention. Every time a photog ask for a picture they get wet in the pussy.

>> No.9553188
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9553188

this guy is a known con creep in the midwest. he is fucking disgusting and wouldnt leave me and a friend alone at a con a few months ago

>> No.9553194

>>9552666
fujos and other awkward females don't have much self control. So when they see girls molesting each other in anime they think it's normal or ok, rather than fanservice for otakus. The same reason they can't shut the fuck up and not squee when they see a picture of some character they want to fuck on screen at a concert.

Also I dunno if this is just a thing in my area or what, but early 20s people are into grabbing other people's nipples lately. I have no idea why. I'm a guy and coworkers, my step sister and others do it to me and each other. I imagine that'll find it's way into con behavior soon if it hasn't

>> No.9553199

>>9553188

He's actually banned from a lot of cons now too.

>> No.9553253
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>have a tendency to be creepy af
>don't want to be a creep
Any con do's and don'ts?

>> No.9553267

>>9553253
Going normal - Don't creep
Wearing cosplay - light creep
Cosplaying roshi - max creep

>> No.9553274

>>9553253
Are you a girl or a boy? Either way here's some tips.
>don't touch without asking
>don't take a pic without asking, unless it's a long distance photo or a bunch of people taking photos
>don't say overly lewd comments like "wow titties", instead say "you're very pretty" or " I love X part of your costume, well done" or "X is my favorite character from Y show/game/whatever"
>having non creepy friends nearby will decrease your creep factor by association, but the opposite is also true
>don't follow people around
>follow general con rules
>avoid young children in general, even if you aren't creeping at all it comes off that way
>unless you have a kid, then you are suddenly the purest human alive
>use your best hygiene. Deodorant, shower DAILY, degrease your hair, and wear normal clothes (at a con obviously it's fine to wear a little merch, plus a graphic tee or something)

Of course breaking these guidelines does not make you an automatic creep nor a terrible person, but it will improve the perception of others. Avoid sex talk in general and if you are seeking a hookup, you will need to try doubly hard

>> No.9553275

y no vic stories?

>> No.9553307

>>9553188
Deets?

>> No.9553328

>>9553253
Seconding what >>9553274 said about asking for pics, etc.

In addition pay attention to the body language of the person you're talking to. If they don't seem interested in the conversation, don't force it. If they seem uncomfortable, don't force the conversation. If they're alone, be extra cautious that you're not accidentally leering over them or standing in the way of an exit. If they say they have to go, don't ask for contact info so you can talk to them later.

However, if they're smiling (genuine smile not nervous smile), laughing, and seem to be having a good time with you, by all means ask if you can add them on Facebook/hang out at the dance later/etc! You shouldn't be dissuaded against talking to people or asking to hang out, just keep in mind the body language of whoever you're talking to. Plenty of girls have been pressured to "be polite" to people even if they're uncomfortable, or have found themselves in a scary situation when they've rejected a guy, so just be sensitive of stuff like that. In an ideal world this wouldn't be necessary and someone could plainly say they're uncomfortable/not interested, but we're not there yet.

>> No.9553342

does it make anyone else uncomfortable when men with fancy cameras take pictures of you at cons but dont publish the pictures anywhere?

>> No.9553350

I had the misfortune of having one in my con crew for my first 2 years of cons. He pretended to be a generous rich boy, but just used his student loans to coerce girls into giving him things. My first con he offered to buy badges for all the girls in the room who showed their tits. I was the only one who refused, and ironically also the only one who was single. He bought me a badge anyway but I regretted obliging, because he proceeded to not leave me alone. I was standing around the hall with friends and he ran up and got half a minute of unsolicited photos before a new con friend of mine snapped at him before I had a chance to.

Another guy friend of mine who I met at the con claims that when he and I were getting kind of flirty, creep took him out of the room to "warn him" about how I was dangerous. Again this was my first con, I literally had not known either of them for more than maybe 5hrs total.

After the con he continued to pester me in FB messages ever so often. I'd had a major tragedy about 7 months prior and he kept offering to help me out and I continually denied. He'd make blatantly sexual comments and I told him I wasn't interested. I brought it up to my friend who was the head of our con crew and she told me just to tell him I'm not interested, which obviously I did. She knew him for years as someone who always contributed a substantial sum to her con rooms so she likely didn't want to cause any issues and risk that. We were both early 20s idiots at the time.

I found out he was banned from a few cons in the midwest. When I brought it up to him, he struggled to alter the stories and make himself look like he was just framed... by 4 different cons. I remember one of the rumours from Sugoi was that he befriended two girls and offered them a room, then tried to get them to have sex with each other in said room.

(cont.)

>> No.9553365

>>9553350
A year later, I had to move from one city to another over 700 miles away. I needed help with the drive (disabled) and reached out to everyone I knew, and ofc he was the only one willing and able. Without any other options, I decided to take it. He hadn't bothered me in a while and I'd be staying at his family's house for one night with 4 other family members. I made it very clear from the start that I was doing this out of necessity and had zero interest in him. Beforehand he tried to tell me there was no guest room and offered for me to sleep in his bed, I told him I'm fine with the floor. Turned out the house was pretty big, there was a 2-bed guest room and 9 people worth of couch space. We ended up getting in a fight because he grabbed my ass as I was going up a flight of stairs and I snapped at him, but he gave a very passive and almost pleased response.

There were no further issues but he bought a netbook "for his mom" while I was there, claimed she declined it, offered it to me, and I declined it too (knowing what he was up to). Three months later at Colossal he invited a new girl visiting our room to get naked and talk to him for 15mins in exchange for the netbook.

I wasn't in the room at the time, but I returned to see him packing up because he was "framed" for counterfeiting badges and the con chair burst into our room screaming. He tried to argue that he clearly didn't have the equipment in the room to do it. I found out later from the head of security that he was working with another guy in a different room and loaned his equipment. Also that same weekend a friend who was in the same side-room as him said she heard him and our trashy engaged-for-3-years con roomie loudly fucking while she was trying to nap.

I was ecstatic he was now banned from the con because I didn't have to deal with him anymore. I did tell my friend about all the shit he tried to pull during my visit but once again was met with apathy.

(cont.)

>> No.9553372
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Is it possible to ask for fanservice pictures without being creepy?

>> No.9553376

>>9553372
Human rule #2: You can't be creepy if you're 10/10 attractive.

>> No.9553377

>>9553365
Since he was banned from all the cons we still went to, I was essentially free of him, but 2 years later he got wind that I was having issues at the home I was staying at and offered me money to help. I declined. He pressed further, claiming that I might have to give him something in return like lewd pics or a drawing of Harley Quinn and I-don't-remember-who-else going at it. I declined, reminded him for the second time in the span of 5mins that I was seeing someone so I didn't appreciate the request for lewd photos.

After that I blocked him on FB because I no longer had to deal with him at cons anymore anyway. The following year everyone kinda realized how scummy and disrespectful he was towards women and no one really talks to him anymore at all. Idk if he even still goes to cons.

Also he literally lived in the basement surrounded by technology and anime girl merch (lots of Rei, ofc), but he called it the "downstairs apartment" even though it was a 100% low ceiling, exposed rafters and utilities, musty concrete floor basement.

>> No.9553381

>>9553376

many ugly photographers take tons of fanservice pictures

>> No.9553393

>>9553381
But is it the photographer's fault or is it the thirsty sluts wanting to give fanservice?

>> No.9553586

>>9553376
No, they just end up as being something else. There's so many hot "cosfamous" types in our local comm, but their like borderline nutcases and have a crazy reputation. Think Usagi Kou. No one wants to be around the crazy bitch cosfame whore.

>> No.9553607

>>9553342
photographer here. the reality is that a shitload of photos just never go anywhere including not even being looked at by the photographer himself. at best a quick glance before moving on is what a lot of them get.

>> No.9553639

>>9553607
Can confirm. Took 1000 photos at AX and just too lazy to even look at it.

>> No.9553640

>>9552322
You would be trying to kill convicted people who have already come out of jail and are probably trying to get better. So good luck with that.

>> No.9553656

>>9552688
Ah the old rape or sexual harassment fetish. Always leads to good things.

>> No.9553667

>>9552592
Fucking this. Lesbians are as big of predators as straight men are, but it's not PC to say that.

>> No.9553671

>>9553350
>>9553365
>>9553377
I know there's zero chance it's the same person, but are you in western Canada? Big city? Because that sounds like my ex, like exactly. And he did all that to someone else while we were still dating. Every time I have any kind of UTI I get deathly scared it's HIV or some STD he might have given me resurfacing after years of lying stealthily dormant...

>> No.9553674

>>9553342
How would you know they weren't posted?

>> No.9553734

>>9553350
>>9553365
>>9553377
I've met guys who did similar things, but not on the same scale.

I was checking out manga at a stall, deciding if I wanted to spend or not because money was kinda tight at the time. In the end I decided to leave it, and one of the guys in our group offered to buy it for me. I said "no thanks" because I don't like owing people. He said "if you don't buy it for yourself I will." and continued pushing so I caved in and bought it for myself to get him to stop.

At the same stall he bought a complete anime boxset that came with both blu-ray and non blu-ray dvds. He offered me the non blu-ray set and again I said no. And again he kept insisting. After having my third no ignored I caved again.

I didn't really see or speak to him again for about a year when he randomly messaged me on fb out of the blue. We were just chatting and he starts trying to invite himself over to my house to "watch anime" (I am willing to bet my burando that, that isn't all he wanted to do). Again I kept saying no, saying I was busy with exams (which was true), etc and he just kept trying to coax me. "Oh only for a couple hours!", "I can help you study!", "Maybe I can take you out for dinner when you're finished to celebrate!". The guy is also very aware that I have a boyfriend, he asked me how my boyfriend was doing at uni in the same conversation he was trying to invite himself over.

It's so uncomfortable.

>> No.9553743

>>9553671
Get checked nigga

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>>9553377
>Also he literally lived in the basement surrounded by technology and anime girl merch
I know they're obviously an asshole but isn't that kind of existence sort of sad? How does someone even begin living like that?

>> No.9553831

>>9553745
Depression, possibly a bad experience that left the person not wanting anything to do with others, although probably not this persons case.

>t. Wagecuck that lives just like your stereotype otaku would live like but actually having to work

>> No.9553886

>>9553745
Easily. Lots of youths live in the basement because that's where their parents decide their rooms are. Couple that with an obsession with anime and there you go.

In regards to that image, a lot of males don't get a lot of experience in social situations and those are the kind that are usually nerds. Girls honestly have it a little easier since they're taught to socialize and have an easier time not being excluded due to having a vagina which will make most guys at least a little more willing to talk to them. Sure there are a lot of girls who are just as bad as those guys but it's easier for a guy to become that way since nobody cares about them and they have to work towards a high standing in the social hierarchy growing up.

>> No.9553933

For cosplaying girls, whats the best way to go for a hookup at cons?
lets just say for a male, 6/10 - 7/10, not obese, no hygiene/neckbeard problems, approach anxiety (its against social norms to talk to strangers/pretty girls), and really into anime. I am assuming thats more than 50% of guys at cons.

>> No.9553938

>>9553933
Are you asking as the guy or girl?

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>>9553933
>Girl asking for how to go for a hookup.
Am I reading this right?

>> No.9553941

>>9553938
>>9553939
As the guy.

>> No.9553943

>>9553938
>>9553939
>>9553941
Or actually since it is interesting, whichever you want to answer.
As the girl or guy. Though lets be honest, girls would never do that.
Maybe indirectly and somehow pray the guy will catch the subtle clues.

>> No.9553944

>>9553933
Find your favorite waifu and try talking to the girl about the character you both like.

>> No.9553951

>>9553941
If you doubt your interpersonal skills and you just want a hookup, there's Tinder. Also FYI you've posted >>9553941
in the creep thread, not the help thread.

>> No.9553952

>>9553951
Whoops, ignore the link to 2nd quoted post

>> No.9553955

>>9553951
I'm trying to rationalize if trying to hookup at cons is creepy or not.
But i guess that is not related to this thread.

>> No.9553962

>>9553955
Don't go to a con for the sole purpose of hooking up, and don't be desperate or an autist. There's nothing wrong with hooking up with someone from a con though.

Additionally, you can follow my two step guide for not coming off as creepy:
1. Be attractive
2. Don't be unattractive

>> No.9553968

>>9553962
So there's no hope for him

>> No.9553973

>>9553342
If I ever shot you, I am so sorry. I am a slowpoke.

>> No.9553975

>>9553933
>hookup threads

go to parties and wherever they serve booze, chat up some cuties and invite them to your room or ask if you can visit theirs. bam.

The people most likely to go for a hookup will be at the raves and parties, it might be a little harder to ask a cosplayer in a ton of costume.

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>>9553933
From personal experience, the majority of successful meeting and hookup at a con has come from girls approaching me. It's too random and easy to get into awkward/creeper positions just randomly talking to people, so you have to be really good at observing and reading people to make it work out.

>Though lets be honest, girls would never do that.
lel.

If you're really that desperate you're better off trying to find people that will be going to a con like a month out and chatting them up on social media to see how things go. If you're looking into approaching people rather than hoping someone shows interest in you, this is your best option. At worst you make friends and can work through their social connections to find someone, and at best it's not really a random hookup sparing you the awkwardness of coming off as a creeper.

>>9553962
>1. Be attractive
>2. Don't be unattractive
Nope, that isn't good enough. Women have very different ideas on what's attractive or not so it isn't that easy. What they're looking for tends to be pretty strict as well. Example, I knew a generously rated 6/10 girl that wouldn't settle for anything less than a tall, buff, asian guy. Really threw me for a loop because they approached me in order to hang out with my friend since they were too shy to go directly to them. FYI, last time I checked they were still single.

>> No.9553992

>>9552274
Oh jeez, I've seen this guy around and never got good feelings from him or his brother.

>> No.9553993

>>9553831
>>9553886
Hits a little too close to home there.

>> No.9553994

>>9552274
I wonder if autistic old fujoshi are this cringy.

>> No.9553997

>>9553987
>wouldn't settle for anything less than a tall, buff, asian guy
>last time I checked they were still single.
Hm I wonder why

>> No.9554004

>>9552995
I can't find him on google for some reason but I know exactly who you're talking about. He was a bondagefag who use to ran a group and his preferences are old-fashioned dresses. No real stories but it seems a lot of bondagefags, especially older ones, are pretty thirsty.

>> No.9554007

>>9553987
Damn, for guys even a 4/10 is enough to stick it in.

>> No.9554018

>>9553886
> Implying that simply having a vagina gets you friends instantaneously
Friendless female here to disprove your theory. I am the invisible girl: no one notices me, no one wants to be friends.

>> No.9554021

>>9554018
>gets you friends instantaneously
Never did I say this. I just said it's easier to get attention and therefore enter social groups and get social experience. I even said there are of course a lot of girls like you.

>> No.9554026

>>9554021
OMFG YOU NOTICED MEEEE
> *cries*

>> No.9554032

>>9554007
4/10 in a costume becomes at least an 8/10

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>>9553997
Yeah, really activates my almonds thinking about why that is.

Relevant though, since I was fairly young that experience is what made me realize a few things.
>Approaching less attractive people (to me) wouldn't make things work out any easier.
>If they find you attractive or not doesn't depend on how attractive they actually are, it's completely random and if you're not working for them it won't happen.
>Women don't tend to compromise as easily as men.
>You can't control how people react to you, or if they think you're a creeper or not.
>Don't ever expect a hookup to be "secured" or not until it's already happening, despite what people have told you in advance or if they give off all the right signals.

Also rant incoming on why attempting impromptu con hookups can suck.

Bit more on the last two greentext points, I'd only met her at the con for two days and she asked to take a shower in my room at like 3 AM after we hung out at the rave. After she was finished, I asked her what she wanted to do, and she asked if it was okay to crash in the room too. She then grabbed a pillow and sheet off the bed and laid down on the floor. I asked her what she was doing and I said "I thought we'd share the bed." To which she said "Oh no, I wouldn't want to inconvenience you!". Basically she bummed the room, cockblocked me from getting with someone else, and got my hopes up, but she was also a friend of a different group of my friends so it isn't like I could make her leave without repercussions. I immediately figured out she didn't want to do anything from what she told me then and just left her alone, but that didn't stop her from telling the other group of friends that I "acted creepy". Sometimes you just can't win.

>> No.9554037

>>9554035
>scabbed a free room
>accuses you of acting creepy
[reeeeees internally]

>> No.9554039

>>9554021
More seriously however (if I haven't yet frightened you away entirely (This, children, is how don't NOT be a creepy person in social situations)), I don't actually find that it is easier to infiltrate a previously established social group as a female.

In your defense however, I do find that I attract Queen Bee types who are looking for a sidekick while trying to build a new social circle, and then they start to establish their social circle based off of our twosome. This is usually if they have a sense of humour too since I'm "quirky." And then I just end up the standard quirky sidekick. Eventually though I just end up jettisoned out when I'm considered "too quirky."

>> No.9554045

>>9553274
>dont touch without asking
Protip, this doesn't mean asking "can I touch you" because apparently that's weird too.

>> No.9554046

>>9553372
>white thong
Fucking dumb bitch didn't even watch the show, fake fan, 1/10

>> No.9554047

>>9554046
>calling that a thong
shiit ax california girls can't even compete with comiket sluts

>> No.9554050

>>9554047
>implying it's not
Sorry it doesn't live up to your expectations of a literal string, jesus christ

>> No.9554054

>>9554045
Yes. You should know that's weird.

>> No.9554075

>>9554054
So is "Can I take a picture with you?" with a smile and good vibes enough to not hover hand and actually touch?

>> No.9554079

>>9554075
Depends on where you're planning to touch. Shoulder: yes. Waist: maybe. Ass: obviously not.

Use common sense.

>> No.9554080

>>9553955
>>9553941
>>9553933
>>9553987
The biggest conclusion I could come to here is, without long detail- yes it's creepy to look for a hookup at cons

Now, if you wanted to read past that: Here's why. It's the same as going to a party just looking to hook up- you've got your goal in mind and especially if you're not charismatic it's going to ooze off you like a sludge. It'd probably going to come off as creepy because you're firing an arrow of conversation at your end-goal and people are gonna pick up on it, especially if you're gonna try and find a girl and somehow go from "who the fuck is this guy" to 'feeding the gul' in one night.

I've got a girlfriend, but I can tell you I've had instances that could have lead to hookups and they're few and far between. I'd consider myself a 7-8. Tall and muscular (God bless /fit/ I didn't catch the autism that usually comes with gains) and I have an unintentionally flirty personality. Even then you're drawing cards face down and hoping for an ace between girls with boyfriends, people with actual zero interest in hookups and etc.

Go to the con and have fun, man. The people who go there are still people, if something happens then sure; fire away. Don't make it a core objective, it's not worth imo.

>> No.9554083

>>9554075
>>9554045
In my personal experience I take two options based on the reaction
>Hey, excuse me! Your costume is amazing, could I get a picture with you?
If she reacts positively (Or you can otherwise tell she's an extrovert) try to joke your intentions in there
>Hey, I don't wanna get caught hover-handing, do you mind?
If she seems hesitant about it, maybe reconsider for that particular cosplayer. Some people just don't mind photos but have really solid personal space issues.

>> No.9554092

>>9554083
I'm not sure about that. I think more often than not asking would make it more strange. If she seems happy to take the picture with you and leans in for it then it would make sense to put your hand on her shoulder. If you ask about it you're making it weird by acknowledging that there's something weird about it. You just gotta feel it out lel.

>> No.9554095
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>>9554080
>Trying to imply looking for casual sex by default is creepy.
Yeah no. It's more like, people who solely try to do them at cons having never done casual relations and typically ending up being pushy, awkward, and creepy. There's no difference in approaching congoers or cosplayers and approaching regular people at any other social event. It's all the same. The bizarre shit that happens is just amplified by a tendency for socially inexperienced people to show up at a con thinking someone dressed up as their waifu or husbando is going to copulate with them because that's what they desperately want to happen. It's a sad combination of the inherent loneliness of weeblife and unfulfilled dreams colliding with the now overly sexualized cosplay scene that emboldens the most reserved and antisocial members of society to commit very questionable actions. It's like walking into a fantasy land where every other person is dressed up as your favorite fetish, and then refusing to accept you're not walking around in that same fantasy. That's where the creepers come from, and it has nothing to do with it being a gathering of one specific culture.

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>>9554095
>her hymen is now silent

>> No.9554250

>>9554083
I've never understood the hoverhand thing. Why would you put your arm around a stranger to begin with?

>> No.9554277

>>9552322
>predators are scum
>let's become predators

>> No.9554288
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9554288

>>9554250

what do you do if you are taking a picture with someone?

>> No.9554343

>>9554250
>>9554288
I don't get why more people just lean a bit into it and then take a picture, just leave your arm to your side.
I sometimes cosplay bare midriff cosplays and then it's extremely uncomfortable to feel a sweaty hand around your waist during a picture.

>> No.9554424

>>9554250
>>9554343
Because if you don't the picture looks awkward as fuck. Of course you shouldn't put your hand around her waist but a shoulder is how it's supposed to be.

>> No.9554425
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9554425

I always wonder what the hell is up with people and their friendships at cons. I've seen and heard people say 'Oh this dude is my best friend/good bud/etc' then they go and do something terrible or fucked up to them. I've seen cheating, threats, rumors that get passed around eachother. Stuff that in a rational mind one should say 'Fuck that guy/girl Im done' and yet it ALWAYS becomes 'Oh we talked it out and its cool now' then cycle repeats.

Are people that desperate for perceived friendships at cons.

>> No.9554446

>>9552342
Okay, so I looked this person up and before all this drama went down, they used to be on my facebook (Im a TX con goer, they added me bc I shared a name with them)- Calling me their twin, but when they PM'd me, They definitely were being very sexual. (I was 15! I did not know that they were of age at all, I was told they were 16-17 like most of my friends from cons)

It turns out they were trying to get me to defend them on the internet and I got a LOT of hate for it and also was called a pedophile in their place. I cut off all contact and they're just gone now, haven't seen/heard from them since they almost ruined my 15 y. old life.

>> No.9554455

>>9553372
I love how mad Jessie looks in the background while simultaneously checking out the thongs.

>> No.9554456

>>9554425
My personal theory is that a majority (not all) nerds do have some form as social inept-ness. So either they're desperate for friends, have a lack of experience in social ways, or tend to be push overs. I'm not surprised. plus, I've seen normal people, nerds, all types of people have drama. its life.

>> No.9554468

>>9554446
She's in jail now. Was sentenced in April. I'm in NorCal and a few of my friends who were victims of hers were the ones that helped made sure she got locked up

>> No.9554489

>>9554468
Oh thank god.

>> No.9554493

>>9554468
What did she do?

>> No.9554497
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9554497

Is it true that guys are less likely to be creeped out by thirsty girls? I want to get lucky at a con.

>> No.9554499
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>>9554468
>Google name
>First page of results has words "feminist, homestuck fandom, and rape" in it.
This is going to be an interesting read.

>> No.9554501

>>9554497
Depends on the guy. Some of my friends were hit on before and completely turned off from how the girl did it.

You flatout ask a guy, 'You wanma fuck' outta nowhere we're gonna suspect something is up.

>> No.9554509

>>9554497
Yes. They'll probably be just as thirsty as you. As long as you're decently attractive you'll score.

>> No.9554514
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>>9554497
Just don't be overly bold about it, or start touching them out of nowhere. At the very least you can pretend it's more than you just being thirsty. Acting stupid or coming off as inebriated will probably kill your chances. Difficult, right?

>> No.9554520

>>9554514
>Acting stupid or coming off as inebriated will probably kill your chances. Difficult, right?
Really depends. You'll probably get worse guys.

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>>9554501
>>9554509
>>9554514
Well the thing is I only want to score with attractive married guys. It's kind of a phase I'm going through right now. I'd probably rate myself a 7, 5 without makeup. How do I increase my chances? Any married guys here have an opinion about cheating on their wife with some thirsty con girl?

>> No.9554538
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>>9554536
This is bait, right?

>> No.9554542

>>9554538
Yeah. 99% chance this is a dude writing this looking to get off

>> No.9554547
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>>9554536
>Married weeb NTR fantasy
>Not bait
Sorry you lost me.

>> No.9554552

>>9552592
This happens to me, too. Just because you're not physically imposing or 'scary' doesn't mean you get a free pass to grope some boobs. People who go "oh, but it's not like it's sexual" - how does anybody know for sure? You just groped someone's boob! Gropey women have got to stop - it's not cute or funny with a stranger. If your friends let you do that and are genuinely comfortable with it, then whatever, but DO NOT randomly grope strangers butts or boobs.

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>>9554538
>>9554542
>>9554547
>thinking there's no such thing as a thirsty weeb homewrecker

>>9554536
Just read your favorite ntr doujins for tips.

>> No.9554562

>>9553933
Hook-up apps. That way you know you're only hitting people who are looking to hook-up too.

>> No.9554564

>>9554562
Hitting ON, obviously.

>> No.9554578

>>9554536
You will probably have no luck

>> No.9554670

>>9554536
Married guy here, where you at bby?

>> No.9554690

>>9554562
>tinder
>1 in 500 girls cosplay
>0% chance of them cosplaying my waifu
I don't think this will be easy

Any good apps?

>> No.9554699

>>9554075
As a cosplayer please never ever touch a cosplayer without asking. They might have personal space issues, but more importantly they might have a fragile costume.
After Ive slaved months over a costume I absolutely wont let anyone touch it, they might break it, or dirty it, or it might get wrinkly... just no, no touching at all.

>> No.9554722

>>9554562
Speaking of apps, what dating service/apps do gulls use when looking to date, rather than just hook up?
I'd rather meet someone with common interests than just for quenching thirst

>> No.9554742

I had a Deadpool cosplay spill water on my crotch area when I was about 14 and then proceed to wipe at my crotch and grab my ass and wouldn't let me leave by myself. One of my older friends saw what was going on and scared him off, but I'm still hesitant around Deadpool cosplayers because of that.

>> No.9554761

>So my question is.
Being a victim vs rape fetishes When is the line crossed?

>> No.9554764

>>9553667

Actually, as someone who is bi, I get felt up by straight chicks without more consent than gay chicks... It's as if because you swing both ways you must be open to ANYTHING

>> No.9554769

>>9554761
I don't understand

>> No.9554777

>>9554769
Well it just confuses me at Cons. Basically women draw up all these rules. But don't you invite the attention whether it is sexual or not from the way you either act on your own accord. And from what >>>/cgl/ has taught me so far. You. Are.All. Gunning. For. Attention. But can not handle the consequence when the attention gets awkward.

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>>9553640
do you really believe that the majority of pedophiles have already been convicted and are just trying to get better? really? i don't agree with the sentiment of chopping people's dicks off, but you're fucking delusional.

>>9553667
it's usually straight girls or gay men who think it's okay to touch your boobs without permission.

>> No.9554806

>>9554777
oh are you one of those "she wore a short skirt so she was asking for getting raped" folks?

>> No.9554821

>>9554777
You're basically saying that if you wear revealing clothes or want attention you want to be assaulted. Clearly not true. Wanting attention doesn't mean the same as wanting people to touch you or act creepy or pervy towards you. You just want people to look at your cute outfit.

>> No.9554822

>>9554780
>do you really believe that the majority of pedophiles have already been convicted and are just trying to get better?
Alright then you'll be using heresy to punish people and not looking for proof. The majority of pedophiles never do anything harmful.

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>>9553667
Lol.

No, its about 98% straight chicks who think its ok because "LOL its not like im actually attracted to you, OBVIOUSLY im not a lesbo!!"

>>9554777
/cgl/ is a small percentage of con-goers, friend. just because we're all thirsty attention starved sluts doesnt mean most cosplayers are. dont apply anything you learn on anonymous forums to a general populace of normies.

>> No.9554846

>>9554822
>>9554780
This is veering OT but it's hard to determine how many pedophiles there may or may not be. The ones that get caught doing illegal behavior, the ones that admit pedophilia without acting on it, and the ones that don't admit it or act on it are separate groups that make it difficult to quantify the numbers.

Aside from the action vs fantasy morality debate, most pedophiles are probably not in jail either because they aren't caught or because they didn't do anything illegal.

That said it's tricky to punish thoughtcrime so feel free to be morally outraged at heinous crimes or whatever

>> No.9554858

>>9554846
This is my vaguely OT response to your vaguely OT post, but just was taught in a course last semester that compared to Canada and Britain the US does not have any kind of cross-country linked criminal databases. Because of that there are up to 500 repeat offenders that get away with everything from serial sexual assault to rape to murder simply by crossing state lines because police forces won't and can't share/compare info, victimology info, profiling info, etc.

So one guy who "never did anything" in one state might have attacked 5 children in another.

>> No.9554863

>>9554858
But he most likely didn't because 500 people out of millions is a very low number. Good luck finding and beating people up for looking creepy at a park or watching anime. You'll be a big hero.

>> No.9554864

>>9554536
End yourself

>> No.9554869

>>9554562
>people on hookup apps wanting to hook up
What a fucking joke famalam

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>>9552606
GG, anon

>> No.9554877 [DELETED] 

>>9554806
Well if she was walking in a nigger infested ghetto at 3am in the morning then yes.

>> No.9554878

>>9554863
I get your statistical point there, but if you take a pedophilie priest operating within a medium-sized community and then chart the victims, he'll have victimized someone in 90% of households within that entire community (again, statistically, since you seem fond of using that as an argument).

>> No.9554882

>>9552688
I can be your gf and then we can do that

>> No.9554894

>>9554877
I didn't know Mel Gibson browses /cgl/

>> No.9554932
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>>9554877
Why not say both are at fault?
But just because she should have known better than to be in that area at that time doesn't mean the animals who committed the crime are guilt free. I mean, we put down dogs if they bite people.

>> No.9554945

>>9553376
t. uggo

>> No.9554949

>>9552605

I literally dont see whats wrong with not wanting to hover hand

>> No.9554950

>>9554877
Get out of here Ahmed

>> No.9555030
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What do I do if someone is creeping on me?

>> No.9555053

>>9553933
Related to this
How do I make friends and get laid at cons? Assume I'm very handsome, but not the greatest with people

>> No.9555060

>>9555053
Cosplay for free attention. Don't be rude, autistic or political in your conversations. Your good looks will get you at least a couple of potential friends/girls who want to hang with you so don't blow it.

>> No.9555068
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9555068

>>9555030

Carry these cards on you at all times

Give them one

>> No.9555106

>>9555068
>"You're lucky I didn't physically assault you!"
I think I'd shit myself laughing

>> No.9555109

>>9555030
let it happen

>> No.9555128

>>9555109
I wish a girl would creep on me. I'd let it happen as long as she's 4/10 and up.

>> No.9555138

>>9555068
ironically having those cards and giving them out is creepy in itself

>> No.9555139

>>9555128
>mfw average looking guys always lower their standards
>ugly ass chicks raise theirs
the power of pussy

>> No.9555140

>>9553275
Burned out on them. They're more or less the norm now. Not interesting.

>> No.9555149

>>9555128
What do you consider a 4/10?

>> No.9555153

>>9552592
That happened to me at Katsucon once. I was walking with some friends and I felt someone grab my hand (the same hand I was holding my phone/wallet so I was literally about to deck them) and it was some random girl sitting on the floor. I was Jolyne Cujoh at the time and she was a Foo Fighters cosplay, and she was grabbing my hand asking if I'd marry her. Like...if you wanna do ship-y "this character and your character!" stuff that's one thing, but don't grab my fucking hand when I'm walking somewhere, holy shit. I've also had "girls" try to do that shit when I was 16/17 (grab me, kiss me, etc) but I can't lump them in because apparently they're all any gender BUT female nowadays.

>> No.9555160

Most of the guys that go to cons are to beta to be the bad kind of creepers. *most*
Girls, however tend to have no bondaries with other girls at cons.Like some girls think cons are big slumberparties or something and we're all braiding each others hair and practicing kissing.
But I speak as someone who has issues with anxiety, and previous assault, so yeah.

>> No.9555164

>>9555149
How should I put it, below average? Just look in the ita thread for ugly girls, I'd be okay with any of them.

But to be completely honest, I'd let 2/10 girls creep on me. They can do whatever they want to me, creepwise. I'd be really cool with it. It sounds like fun to me. Any lower than 2 I'd probably get in trouble for though.

>> No.9555191

>>9555030
Suck their dick.
They're probably just some lonely bastard who would like a little physical intimacy for once in their shitty life.

This is not a troll post. Make the world a better place, toss out a pity fuck to a beta every once in a while.

>> No.9555194

>>9555160
As a guy (not even a good looking one) girls, especially younger ones, seem to think that glomping and groping guys are a-ok because it's funny.

>>9555191
There's a lot more truth in this than I'd ever admit publicly.

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This guy fits just about every stereotype of a con creeper.

>In his 30s
>Hard core furry and brony who follows MLP porn pages on fb
>Clearly a fat neckbeard
>Thinks hitting on his female fb friends is endearing and tries to use his Asperger's syndrome as an excuse to continue being a fucking creep when they call him out.
Oh, and he has a girlfriend 12 years younger than him who he met on a furry blog and they've never met in person.
The only thing he's missing is a fedora. His friends allegedly treat him like shit but he still hangs out with them no questions asked. He's fucking pathetic and disgusting.

>> No.9555247

>>9552592
fuck man, i still feel guilty from my high school days. i would always trying to grab my girl friends and shit. but like FUCK that was so awful of me. i was just gay and didnt really know.
i want to go back and apologize, but that would be even worse bc its been like 7 years since i graduated

>> No.9555251

>>9553393
It's a symbiotic relationship!

>> No.9555259

>>9555194
>As a guy (not even a good looking one) girls, especially younger ones, seem to think that glomping and groping guys are a-ok because it's funny.
Fuck I'd feel mega uncomfortable with this. What do you do when a young girl gropes you?
Do you ask her to stop or something, you can't really go along with it.

>> No.9555302

>>9555194
Has glomping finally died out?

>> No.9555344

>>9555302
As long as there are 14 year olds hyped up on pocky, glomping will never die out.

>> No.9555506

>>9554018
As a maybe 6.5/10 male at best, when I see a girl at a con by herself, I wonder "Hey, maybe she needs a friend, perhaps I should talk to her."

But I feel like it's impossible to do that without coming off as creepy. My smile looks awful and fluid conversation is tough, especially if the person I'm talking to is equally awkward.

>> No.9555512

>>9555164
> I'd let 2/10 girls
> They can do whatever they want to me
Heeeeeeey, sailor...

>> No.9555516

I know there's a really creepy piece of crap who went to Youmacon that some people tried defending despite the literal threats from him. Can't remember his name, but the post would be easy to find.

>> No.9555518

>>9555506
Usually if I'm alone at a con it is because I want to be alone. I get overwhelmed easily in crowded places and being with my (large, loud and lovely) crowd of friends can be draining. Other times there are things I want to do that my friends may not.

In that respect, I prefer not to be approached at all. I'll make friends if I want to by joining the boardgames/arts crafts/group tables.

>> No.9555529

>>9555506
As a contrast to >>9555518 I'm alone 95% of the time. I've got social phobia, avoidant personality disorder, and aspergers. Socializing for me is a spectator sport: I'm standing on the sidelines waving a little plastic flag and watching everyone else partake. I'm sorta used to being ignored, but it doesn't mean it doesn't hurt. But no, still used to it.

>>9555518
Pssst...I think your life is my dream. Hopefully that's okay!

>> No.9555531

>>9555506
Might as well see it that way. There's a good chance the girl's not going to be looking for anything but how else are you supposed to make a relationship without talking to people?

>> No.9555547

A few years ago at a con there was a guy dressed up as france form hetalia, he took this as an 'okay' to chat up MUCH younger people, mostly girls, in hetalia cosplay even though they looked very uncomfortable. While I was in a line he came up behind me and commented on how nice my cosplay was, then jumped to mentioning my ass. At the time I was under aged and was literally speechless.

Another guy at the same con dresses up as sebastain from black butler, its closet cosplay level and he also chats up younger cosplayers.

i don't know what it is about this con but theres tons of creepers and shit cosplay.

>> No.9555617
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Is it creepy if someone asks you to choke them for a picture.
>cosplay from game where choking is a main move
>cute girl asks for a pic
>sure, start to pose
>but can it be of you choking me?
I am not into to choking but if that is what she wants ok. Talked to her for a while after.

>> No.9555639

>>9555236
living the dream

>> No.9555665

>>9555506
Yes, it's creepy, don't do it. I wouldn't even appreciate it if a guy is a 9.5 with a smooth talk, i'd still think anyone saying more than 'nice cosplay, lets take a picture together' are creeps.
I'm at a con to have fun, not to get laid or look for relationships.

But then again theres a lot of people who think you should look for new friends at cons, usually i reject anyone who approaches me instantly unless some occasion puts us together.
Just approaching someone with the intention oh she looks nice lets be friends, is imo a poor ground to start a friendship or relation with. You don't do it on the street, don't do it at cons.

>> No.9555668

>>9555617
I was cosplaying Joffrey from GoT and a guy asked if he could pretend to choke me in a picture. I thought it was a funny idea and said yeah, not creepy at all.

>> No.9555681

>>9555665
That's what the cosplay is for. A talking point if you wanna meet friends. But most people are awkward.

>> No.9555682

>>9555665
>I'm at a con to have fun, not to get laid or look for relationships.
I think at a gathering of nerds you're going to get a lot of people looking for relationships as that's their only chance to meet people with their same interest. This goes for guys and girls. Also "she looks nice let's be friends" is pretty much the basis for most relationships starting out. Not everyone has tons of opportunities to meet people.

>> No.9555683

>>9555506
Yea, especially since you specified a chick (assuming you're into chicks). Sorta seems creepish. And most people really value the bit of alone time you can get in the middle of busy con.

>> No.9555691

>>9555617
i think it would be funny if someone asked me for a picture like that. i would also love to step on someone for a picture if they werent creepy about it and only using it as a joke lol

>> No.9555700

>>9552688
L O N D O N
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>> No.9555708

>>9554250
This whole hoverhand issue fucking baffles me, honestly. It must be different in the US to how it is in the UK.
I've taken a bunch of pictures with cosplayers and had a bunch of people taking pictures with me. The arm goes round, hand goes on shoulder. Doesn't matter if it's male or female.
Obviously if the costume makes that difficult (shoulderpads, wings, complex costume or something that's obviously fragile), it's a no-go, in which case you just lean into it.
What's so fucking upsetting about a hand on your shoulder?

>> No.9555710

>>9555708
There's not (for most people) it's just betas are embarrassed or uncomfortable touching a female.

>> No.9555779

>>9554536

LoL Here is the problem for you. I'm married, cosplayer and my wife is to. She took to anime and cosplay like a fish to water when we met. Both /fit/ and she loves the attention. I am the giant dark muscle that walks next to her keeping dudes from flipping her skirt, grabbing her ass etc. they stare, but whatever it's all good as long as nobody touches her. She takes care of me in return. Cosplays my favorite outfits during sex, makes me kick ass dinners, does cutesy sempai stuff sometimes just to fuck with me. even did the would you like a shower thing once when i came home. Fun stuff.

If I was gonna fuck some rando I'd be risking all that for random cosplayer at a convention. Not gonna happen. Now I would presume the worse the relationship the better your chances are gonna get but I would also think the looks and personality are gonna spiral down also. So hot married guys become "okay". Not sure that is satisfying your fetish.

My only caveat would be I've received her friend and her as a birthday gift once. If you aren't bait and have this fetish, go for the wife not the husband. I mean you are basically accepting your place as a substitute poon anyway so work your way in that way instead of trying to flirt with the dude that has to weigh all his problems.

If he doesn't have to think about it he is probably bad news anon.

>> No.9555785

>>9555779
You do realize that you aren't impressing anyone right?

>> No.9555786

>>9554761

In my experience as probably an older member of this forum. I have gone to enough cons to say with certainty that I have never seen a cosplayer at a con publicly asking people to rape them. That is usually a fetish that comes up when you are intimate alone in bed, not during conversation by the escalators as the faux-paparazzi flash around. So I think any line you are trying to figure out has long been crossed by you.

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>>9555779
cringe

>> No.9555793

>>9555785

Anon asked for advice to get married guys, I speak as to why a happily married guy has all this good stuff and wouldn't do that... yet I'm still the asshole.

If I wanted to impress you I'd give you my name or be a tripfag so I could receive all that glorious desire and want that you believe I am craving. I'm fucking anon just like you. I get nothing out of it. Get over it, sometimes people have a good life. Don't be so fkin salty. Jesus fkin christ.

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>>9555779
>I've received her friend and her as a birthday gift once

Is that when you used both hands instead of one to fap?

>> No.9555795

>>9555793
Oh I see, you're right, I am actually super impressed now. This is me impressed, good job Anon

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>>9555794
This anon got jokes, good jokes

>> No.9555813

>>9555785
This is 4chan, everyone who goes on here is 6'4 and ripped

>> No.9555817

>>9555779
>I've received her friend and her as a birthday gift once
>her friend
Did he make you swallow?

>> No.9555943

There is this pathetic fat man in our comm. He has circled through many girls who cosplay his waifu, just asking if they'd date him. He whines to twitter about how he wants his drram gf to come and get him from his home and make him go exercising w her. He is also into sissy-stuff and creeps on maids and lolitas in cons. The funniest part is that I haven't met a single person who actually likes him despite him thinking that everyone he has talked to even once is his friend. It's really difficult to say "gtfo" to him when he just comes back again and does not understand we are super awckward when he is around.

>> No.9555945

Let me start this story by saying I'm a guy
>my friend was super into spg and she convinced me to go to AWM even though it's a Kopf con.
>note: an Indian wedding was going on at the hotel that weekend too.
>at con crossplaying as normal outfit Homura Akemi with my backback shaped like kyubey
>I do my make-up the best i can to pass but I'm by no means a master
>walking around the floor and run into a Devil Homura (she is an actual girl) and we chat for a little while then go about our business
>a few hours pass. ready to go back to room
>end up in the same elevator as the Devil Homura from eariler
>next floor pick up two Indian men from the wedding
>Apu: "can i get a picture with you two?"
>devil Homura: "Ok? Do you want to-" she wanted to wait until we got off the elevator to take a photo
>before she finishes her thought he hands his friend his phone gets in between us
>ok whatever one quick shot and we'll be out.
>i fell kuybeys tail press up against my butt
>in a snap moment realize Apu was trying to grab my ass
>I lean away and in my man voice say "what the fuck?" in more of a confused tone than an aggressive tone
>Both Apu and his friend suddenly realize I'm a guy.
>They get off on the next floor and scurry away.
>doors close and we continue up
>Devil Homura's tells me Apu grabbed her butt too durring the attempted photo.
>she says the is fine though and I get off on my floor

I dont want sound a like dumb male but when something happens to you, suddenly that problem becomes a lot more real to you. My friend group has always used the buddy system and I have acted as escort before this event because I knew things can happen. After this event though I'm defiantly the con dad in my group now that wants to make sure all my friends are alright. So be safe kids.

>> No.9555960

>>9555945
indian guys are all molesters

>> No.9556030

>>9555813
Tfw only 6'2 and semi-ripped
W-will I ever make it, gulls?

>> No.9556093

>>9556030
>tfw 5'10," king of the manlets
>swolefat but stalling at 215, my goal weight is 195

Send help

>> No.9556101

>>9555960
That wasn't the lesson to take away but ok.

>> No.9556124

>>9555639
What dream is that? Dying a virgin pizza delivery guy?

>> No.9556138

>>9555813
I'm only 5'9", but g-dd*amn am I beautiful

>> No.9556190

>>9554827
And it's so frustrating if you're actually gay. I don't want spergs touching me in the first place, and to make it worse they made it harder to chat girls up because those girls assume you're that kind of attention whore with no real intentions.

>> No.9556214

>>9556093
become a dwarf king and rule for eternity
*or rather for the rest of your slightly shortened life span*

>> No.9556226

>>9555708
>whats so upsetting about a hand on your shoulder?
I dont want strangers touching me anywhere ever at all. Its not a hard concept to grasp. Respecting other peoples personal spaces should be a given.

>> No.9556239

I think cosplayers deal with way more creeps and harassment than lolitas

>> No.9556249

>>9556239
That's because Lolitas have that underlying stigma of being snooty bitches. I'm totally fine with that

>> No.9556267

>>9556239
I don't know about that, lolitas dress up more often than cosplayers and spend more time in public (outside of cons) than cosplayers.

The more time you're dressed in a way that stands out the more likely you are to have weird experiences. They're just not "creepy con experiences" like this thread is for.

>> No.9556325

>>9555779
Nice fake blog

>> No.9556468

>>9556239
Because you're not dressed up as a character they masturbate to frequently. =]

>> No.9556473

>>9556093
I hope that's in kilos you fucking twink

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>>9556478
>guy fucks 16yo
>ewww pedo creep
>16yo girl fucks 30yo guy
>she's just looking for more mature guy

>> No.9556485

>>9556483
Nice try Stefan Ozuna

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>>9556478
I wanted to stop reading but I couldn't.

>> No.9556528

>>9556478
Thank god I will never be someone like this

>> No.9556535

>>9556483
As a woman who dated a 22 year old predator when I was 15, go fuck yourself. I was brainwashed by that pedophile and I don't sympathizer with your victim blaming. Go get a girlfriend your own age

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>>9556535
>I was 15
>legal in every country that matters
>pedophile

>> No.9556550

>>9554536
If this isn't bait then just try to get a threesome. At some point you'll have your turn and she'll have to watch.

>> No.9556554

>>9556548
How the fuck have you not been arrested yet?

>> No.9556560

>>9556554
Because it's legal, you can cry all you want but your crying won't change the laws.

>> No.9556578
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>gets hundreds of girls to take barefoot pics at cons

how does he do it?
will cosplay girls really show you their feet if you ask?

>> No.9556580

>>9556560
The creeps thread got too literal

>> No.9556598

>>9556124
>being so mad you miss the joke

>> No.9556618

>>9556580
i guess they thought this thread was for creeps and not against creeps

>> No.9556662

>>9555813
I would hope not. Now I'm afraid to look at the crossplay thread.

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>>9556101
It's still a valuable lesson.

>> No.9556670

>>9556030
>not 6'7
When will they learn?

>> No.9556748

>>9556478
>Jebus of /a/
Is this seriously him? Christ

>> No.9556766

>>9556748
Oh no!!!, who is that though?

>> No.9556794

>>9556478
>What is Romeo & Juliet Law

>> No.9556812

>>9556794
That's only if you're close in age I thought? The guy in question looks 30+ or something.

>> No.9556855

>>9555668
She pretends to resist and say lines that enemies in game say while choked.
>hope no sjw starts causing a scene about me choking a girl

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>>9556855
You'll have to do a Guts cosplay next. That way you can at least roleplay out your choking fetish in character.

>> No.9556869

>>9556598
I'm sure there are actually people envious of him, though I don't know who or why.

>> No.9556870

>>9556812
He was 23 at the time he dated the 16 year old.

>> No.9556871

>>9556859
I actually want to cosplay guts but only 187cm and 124kg. I am trying to bulk up more. It wasn't my fetish going to the con but who knows now.

>> No.9556877

>>9556870
>with no more than a four-year age difference between the two
Assuming since A-kon posts, they were in TX. Doesn't save someone like him, nor should it.

>> No.9556883

>>9556794
Something that doesn't apply once you hit 20.

>> No.9556904
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This guy goes to various cons around the southeast, especially KamiCon, and he is a pedophile. He molested a 9 year old and my younger friend, who was 14, a few years back and tried "grooming" the 14 year old to be his ideal loli waifu. Her parents got police involved when he broke into her house and masturbated on her bed, but continued stalking her for a while even after that.
Last I heard he was engaged but his fiancée dumped him for "undisclosed reasons." His new tactic is saying he's a pansexual demiboy so that underaged tumblr girls will give him attention.

>> No.9556911

>>9556030
5'7", my only route is swole mole

A-at least I'm not str8 outta auschwitz anymore

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>>9556911
Despite all the SIX FEET TALL and RIPPED memery, many a weeb still have a softspot for that bishonen style.

>> No.9556958

>>9552899
At least you're not dropping $700 on a brand new DSLR and using it once before feeling like a nuisance like I did.

>> No.9556967

>>9556930
I don't know about that
Sounds like a puny skinny dude that will get cucked to a 6'3 200lb 10% body fat chad

>> No.9556970

>>9555779
Yeah no way a nerdy guy is going to risk their possibly one chance at a real girlfriend for some crazy slut.

>> No.9556975

>>9555779
Same here
Sucks when I woke up

>> No.9556977

>>9556930
>>9556967
I'm twink mode, more likely to be fucked by the 200lb chad

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>>9556977
>wife gets cucked by twinkboy instead of the other way around

>> No.9557002

>>9554288
Simple, cosplay a JoJo character and just pose.
You never have to touch someone unless it's the one where Gyro carries Johnny.

>> No.9557005

>>9556478
Seems fine to me as long as he didn't fuck her. Dating an underage girl is fine as long as you don't do anything sexual. The problem is you're probably pretty retarded if you really connect with an immature teen and saying shit like "when she's 18 we'll get married" just proves it.

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>>9556904
>Her parents got police involved when he broke into her house and masturbated on her bed
How the fuck did he not go to jail

>> No.9557008

I don't even know any more.

Do hot cosplay females want a normie chad bf? High status bf in anime community (neckbeard)? Hot "anime boys"? Normal looking person, but waifufag? Successful man with a career and bright future (salaryman)?

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>>9557005
>Dating an underage girl is fine
Lolno.

>>9557008
What each girl wants from a partner is different. How shocking. Most aren't even really sure of what they want however.

>> No.9557021

>>9557018
Well we know they want attention.

>> No.9557026

>>9556578
>hundreds of girls
Like 80% of his portfolio is the same 10 models.

>how does he do it? will cosplay girls really show you their feet if you ask?
I wouldn't know, I'm too self aware to ask cosplayers for barefoot pictures unless they offered first.

>> No.9557040

>>9554343
Because it looks fucking awkward.
If you're wearing extravagant cosplay and clearly want attention+pictures how can you be creeped out by a hand on your shoulder?
I've never been told it's weird and I refuse to hoverhand.

>> No.9557042

>>9556766
isnt jebus the "youre waifu is trash" guy who became a teacher and had a 16 year old girlfriend and got fired immediately and had anime in his classroom

>> No.9557044

Have I been glimpsed?

I was doing a fairly low quality kakyoin cosplay at Otakon 2016, and a Caesar cosplayer girl have me a hug randomly.

Is my purity still intact?

>> No.9557046

>>9557044
*glomped

>> No.9557050

>>9557046
does that mean she wanna fug?

>> No.9557053

>>9556535
15 is legal in tons of places though? I think the lowest should be 16 however.

>> No.9557057

>>9557007
my money is on that they cleaned the sheets or someone got a settlement

>> No.9557074

>>9557046
you'll know a glomp when you catch one

>> No.9557075

>>9557050
Nah, she participated in pictures being taken of the mini-gathering of jojo cosplayers that sort of walked into each other and then left.

>> No.9557109

>>9552606
Ho fuck.

>> No.9557159

just remembered this guy, went to animenexts rave and he was just in this circle trying to dance with all of these asian guys girlfriends. he kept on trying to dance with one of them but they kept on saying no. it got to a point where the guys started to look like they were getting mad and the girls kinda looked weirded out/scared maybe. after that this guy finds this girl, who was dancing with a lot of the guys; and after dancing for a bit they just start aggressively kissing at which point the asian guys and their girlfriends were starting to look like they were considering leaving for another part of the rave.

>> No.9557167

>>9556578

damn I didn't know dan schneider was a cosplay photographer

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>>9556904

this sounds like outta movie

>> No.9557216

>>9557040
If you're eating a salad and clearly enjoying it, how can you die if I put peanuts on it?

>> No.9557222

>>9552592
Yep. Happened to me too and they got a photo of themselves doing it? She came up, asked for a photo and hooked one arm around my shoulders and laid he other hand on my boob while her friend took a photo.

Really fuckin' weird.

>> No.9557246

>>9557216
It's up to the person allergic to let everyone else know about their allergy, not have the world conform to them. If you don't want to be touched, say so.

>> No.9557554
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Quiet creeper here.

I have a girl who I really like. She called me beautiful at a convention when she was drunk, but I think it's a mistake. She's in a relationship with some poly guy. who's really cool, so I don't want to cause any disruptions.

I really want to talk to her more, and get to know her. But any time i've tried I got no replies.. I just look at her facebook daily and admire from a distance. It makes me really , really happy when she likes something I post on facebook though...though I don't try to like hers or post to her on her facebook because she ignores me there.

I'm in a shitty relationship too with someone who's cheated on me multiple times and who I have nothing in common with but I don't want to mess her life up by abandoning her because I make a fair bit of money and basically support her.

I'll keep looking at her facebook page and pretending that I can be near her, though. It's really nice, it's what gets me through my day.

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>>9557554
quiet creeper here too

i look at this woman's social media pages everyday and every time i do i feel sick to my stomach and wish i could be like her. not only that, i want to possess and control her so she vanishes from existence, known only to me. i want her to be mine while i take over her life


i might be a skinwalker in my past life reborn as a human being

>> No.9557638

A girl called my 12 year old brother a shota at a con recently, which sets off some flags.

>> No.9557656

>>9557638
People really need to using those words on real children.

>> No.9557689

>>9557656
Yeah, they really do. What scares me the most though is that he'd probably go along if some woman flirted with him? I don't trust his judgement.

>> No.9557706

>>9554493
harassed and sexually assaulted countless minors at california conventions and got them drunk and lied about her age to everyone saying she was like 22 when in reality she was nearing 30. I helped her out with a couple Homestuck panels back in the day because everything she did was terrible and I tried to save them but she was never open to any of my suggestions. Was also very creepy and touchy on me and would call me cute and pet me and cuddle with me which is how she started with most of her victims.
i guess she's been on suicide watch since all of this went down and in April her sentence was five years in a supervised mental health ward because she keeps trying to kill herself.

>> No.9557712

>>9557689
At 12 I don't think I would have been brave enough but at 15? absolutely.

>> No.9557738

>>9557554
This just seems like a huge issue with self esteem and being in a shitty relationship wishing for an out. You deserve to be happy anon, don't let your life be dictated by other people who don't care about you/ you don't care about. You can always meet new people.

>>9557572
This meanwhile is some serial killer nonsense.

>> No.9557744

>>9557712
I'm a guy myself and I definitely remember fantasising at 12. We're a family of early bloomers.

>> No.9557749

>>9557744
But I wouldn't have been brave enough. I definitely wanted to smash with some milfs but I wouldn't have done it.

>> No.9557756

>>9557744
I fantasised at 8..that doesn't mean anything

>> No.9557759

>>9557749
Enough guys end up with pedo teachers that some definitely have the courage.

>> No.9557769

>>9557756
I was jerking at 6. Do you really think you would have turned down a woman if she was hitting on you at 12?

>> No.9557774

>>9557769
Probably would have played it off as a joke like a retard.

>> No.9557778

>>9557774
I at least remember getting hot on at 14 by a 16 year old. That was awkward enough and I was embarrassed as hell. Unfortunately I think that was what she wanted.

>> No.9557794

>>9557689
He won't. At least not yet. Hell, I probably would have gone alone with some of the women who gave me looks and approached me when I was a teenager if they hadn't obviously been twice my age

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King Lin
He got called out last year by multiple cosplayers for sexually harassing girls and apparently raping a minor. I almost completely forgot about this guy until I got an email from the LAPD asking me if I had any information about his "illegal sexual misconduct during a previous Anime Expo convention."

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>>9557828
They even had a search warrant.

>> No.9557871

All this talk about boys reminds me that a guy in my comm was raped when he was 13 by a 25 year old. He said he was okay with it at the time but that it seriously fucked him up and lead to some really intense depression.

>> No.9557884

>be dressed as Mabel Pines at AX this year
>skirt is tight around my thighs since I borrowed it from a friend
>walk up stairs to concourse hall day 1
>feel someone really close against my back
>there's a phone under my skirt
I was wearing dance tights and dance shorts underneath so I hope they enjoyed their photo? Turned around to see the culprit only to lose them in a sea of weebs. Also had a dude ask me to choke him with my "thicc thighs" and asked me to lunch. I was dressed as a 12 year old character with no tits and a giant stuffed pig. Not sure why anyone wanted a picture of my shorts since I'm pretty homely looking but thanks? It's always the sweaty Asian dudes too.

>> No.9557899

>>9557884
>>there's a phone under my skirt

Why were you spreading your legs so wide

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>>9557899
>walking up the stairs
One leg was going up while one leg was lower than the other. Can't really help it when walking up something lmao.

>> No.9557971

>>9557884
i started a thread about shit like this because i missed this one in the catalog.
I found some videos of upskirts at local (midwest) cons on xhamster. this is all im gonna be able to think about next con

>> No.9558020

>>9557828
>>9557831
Lol guess zekia finally got some shit going instead of her and king just flinging crap at each other constantly on facebook

>> No.9558030

>>9558020
I doubt it's her getting shit going, since she wasn't sexually assaulted by him; more likely one of the girls he raped did.

>> No.9558050

>>9557828
This is a surprise, I thought they dropped whatever suit was filed by A.H., I wonder what brought the whole investigation back.

>> No.9558184

>>9558050
i'd assume it is because of him going off his meds at fanime. dude is kind of crazy and went on a weird ass rant on day 3 or day 4 and then more drama happened ending with him saying that there was no case against him. someone probably took that as a challenge and reported him again.

i like how the warrant is only for this year which makes it kind of useless. after the shit from last year i don't think he's done anything that would get him in hot water with the cops this year.

>> No.9558254

>>9558184
I double checked on the whole info. I'd like to correct my statement earlier

Turns out the whole case is still ongoing, so cops asking fb for chatlogs make sense.

>> No.9558587

>>9557899
>>9557966
don't you know your thighs should never separate while moving around in public. do the penguin waddle like a good church girl, con slut

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>>9557738
I do want an out, but this person isn't just an end to a means. There's so much about her. The passion and fire that she has about the things she likes. She's super gorgeous, too..well, at least to me. We met when she was cosplaying something obscure-ish at the time(that I recognized) and i've been enamored ever since. We have a lot of the same tates in things, and her energy is magnetic.

Looking at her facebook makes me genuinely happy.

I have a bit of issues with meeting people in that i'm relatively new-ish to my area, and it's mostly rich, older white collar country-club kind of area. The only meetup group is based about 2 hours away from me, and being that I have a ~44 hour a week job and try to stay in shape with a 5 day workout routine makes it impossible to drive there and back. I can't really meet people with similar ideas as mine in the area because they don't really exist much in this area, so that makes even making friends difficult.

Even then, I don't think it'd be impossible to meet someone else. But I don't want to meet anyone else, I want her.

..Of course, that's unrealistic. So imma creep.

>> No.9560403
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>>9557828
Remember the Fanime chimpout on Facebook?

>> No.9560476

>>9560403
wtf dude

>> No.9561134

>>9560403
>>9560476
king goes crazy without meds
this is the fanime rant on day 3 i think

put him on meds and he's pretty normal though

>> No.9561214

>>9557828
>>9560403
>>9561134
King creeped on me before he started taking meds, but I haven't talked to him since. Has he actually changed or is Zekia and the rest of the girls right to keep being wary of him?

>> No.9561851

>>9561214
I mean he tried to cut off his own dick after allegedly "cheating" on a girl he wasn't even dating...

>> No.9561898

>>9561851
So that was what that bloody picture was?? Jfc this guy has problems

>> No.9562241

>>9561851
This incident was in May which is sorta a long time ago. King is a good person who isn't a creep, most of this is because of the witch hunt that Zekia started to slander his status in the cosplay community.

He's trying his best to get his issues under control, and is trying to put this mess behind him and make a good name in the cosplay community in SoCal.

Just you wait. The haters will get their Karma in the end anyways. Hope you guys are happy slandering a helpless, and mentally ill person.

>> No.9562920

>>9560403
This is sad.
I am glad to hear this guy at least has medication that helps him but it's still depressing to know that this is what happens if he goes without.

>> No.9563022

>>9553377
>>9553365
Most of these "creepy gut" stories could be avoided if you guys didnt beg so much. I'm a woman. If a guy is a creep why would you take his help. You want rooms and manual labor from a creep then you want to complain that he asked for a "favor". I hope you learned a lesson cause you both were wrong.
If living in a basement is sad then taking hotels rooms from creeps is sad.
Its not just this girl. All these stories sound like two creeps. "I was wearing a thong, A guy looked at my butt and gave me a $400 vip pass. Later on he tried to kiss me!" always ask the cost. You might not want to pay it.