/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9548875
Pls no anachans this thread though, save it for feels

I got the Lose it app and I feel it is helping me. When you can look at a list of everything you eat in a day and all the calories, having that 500 calorie lava cake is a lot less tempting. It also makes it feel like a game.

>>9548884
But we have the best tips, they give killer results.

My current bust and waist are 88cm/68cm

I would like to get back down to 84cm/60 cm which is the size I was when I first got into lolita.

Mostly because I would like to go back to being able to order older pieces without obsessively checking measurements.
I'm trying to control my portion sizes, resist the siren call of the biscuit tin at work and walk to the train station rather than getting the bus. Also hula hooping to tone my tummy.

>>9548945
>fat with only a minimally larger than normal bust

My condolences.

>>9548939
Is Lose It better than My Fitness Pal?

/fit/anon here, not lolita but there's tons of women where i come from.

I would strongly recommend a calorie counter assistant app to get you started. Lose It is a pretty solid choice and will give you a great place to start but id be cautious about the computer generated advice that apps give you, they might loose out of important details. If any program asks your height/weight then its just using your BMI as a benchmark and it can never take into account actual muscle or athletic ability.

Generally, snacking and overeating are the biggest hurdles. If you can manage your cravings, cut out sugar where possible, and eat reasonable portions, you've already done 70% of the work.

>>9548992
PLG fag from LARP thread here this guy got it right OP.
Just count your cal with an app, it's literally doing less in life and you lose weight. If you drink: vodka is mad low in cal. Know people who'd lose weight just from that.

>>9548940
>killer results

>>9549004
If you lose weight just from drinking clear liquor instead of other booze you just might be an alcoholic.

>>9549016
when i cant have sugar, i may as well be.

>>9549022
What kind of drinks are you drinking?? How much sugar we talking about?

>>9549024
Whiskey/vodka and red wine usually, in the spring when i cut sugar intake to near absolute 0. No fruit, no honey, no processed sugar of any kind.

can I lose more weight safely?
am female, 5'11, 130 lbs
3 size= 88-65-89

I'm not a spooky skeleton but I am bordering on the underweight side of BMI and have very little muscle mass. I want to fit into moitie comfortably.

Ineed to loose 30 pounds now. My shirring is maxed out on my dresses. Ive never been this big. I didnt get a scale until recently so i never realized how big I had gotten till i had a hard time zipping up my dream dress. My goal is to get back down to 74cm waist which was where i was when i first started lolita. Im at 80 now.
I cheated yesterday for the holiday so now im back up a few pounds and its really fustrating i kind of want to cry. Today i made myself a crab and spinach salad for lunch. I didnt have any time to prep my snacks for work today so any time i get hungry like i want a snack i chug a bottle of water to keep my tummy full. Im trying to keep a positive attitude but meal planning is such a bitch when the payout is only about 1 pound a week.

>male
>5'7, 152 lbs, been lifting for a year and have cut down from 195 lbs. Initially I bulked for 4 months and cut for the next 8.
>Still can't see my abs very well unless I flex in the right lightning, even then it's only the top 4
>Still have a belly

HOW MUCH MORE WEIGHT DO I HAVE TO LOSE, FUCK
I WANT TO ESCAPE DYEL LAND

>>9549008
Yes, that was the joke.

>>9549029
yes, but i wouldn't recommend it. weight loss at that size is restricting your diet, exercise will build you up. Running might help get or keep your calorie demand up but it may add a bit to tone your hips.

>>9549043
>5'7"
There's your problem son. Keep cutting though, you gotta lean the hell out for abs to be your defining feature.

>>9548884
anachan was about to report in, good call making that the first reply

I hate being short. I'm 5'3" and I end up having to cut down to like 1200cal or less per day to lose weight. I maintain at like 1300 which drives me crazy. Like OP, I fit most brand at max measurements, and I'd like to be a bit under. 90cm bust/74cm waist. Sigh.

>5"7
>was 133 lbs
>trying to get back to 120
>plateau at 127 and won't go down

I need a really good gym routine

>>9549166
I understand the feel, anon. Recovered from ED, now at 91 cm bust / 74 cm waist. Fit most brand but it's still annoying to be this size.

>>9549030
Are you me anon? I posted a few months back and felt like a big baby because I cried over eating a muffin. My goal is 30lbs- that was my cosplay weight and granted I was still a little big but not where I am now. Keep it up! I've managed to lose 4lbs and I'm forcing myself to drink more water/green tea and not get fast food or anything when I'm out with friends.

My natural waist has always been 75cm, but my stomach is closer to 80cm especially when bloated. It's my bust that I'm having trouble reducing because it's around 96cm now (used to be 98cm) and I'd like to fit my brand dresses again. Hula hooping like what >>9548945 mentioned really had helped me in the past so I'm picking that up again, and if you can, try swimming!

I gained so much weight that I don't fit in my dresses that have no shirring. Depression sucks. I hate myself even more now. Fuck.

>>9549274
Thanks anon! It helps me feel better to hear im not alone! I actually do really enjoy hoola hooping a lot so thanks for reminding me to bust out my old hoop from the closet! Im currently implimenting a halt on all dress buying no matter how good the deal is because what does it matter if A) i dont fit, or B) i have to rely on full shirring to wear it. Plus I'd like to wear one of my older 2007 pieces to our old school meet next month and i want to make sure i can zip up my dress!

>>9549268
It's annoying, because in Western clothing I wear a small or medium in everything. I lost a ton of weight a few years ago (formerly ~170lb) and I was just starting to feel good about my weight when I got into lolita, and now I'm a large or extra large here.

>>9549029
absolutely not.

>>9549166
I can not empathize with you enough. I'm the same height and if I literally eat one average meal it's like over half my daily calorie limit out the window while most people still have two meals to go without worrying.

>>9548992
>/fit/anon
Anon, why is /fit/ is turning into r9k/, asking for advice from a female perspective gets you called an attention whore and if you post your stats without the fact you get called a manlet skelly. What's some advice to get targeted info?

I wanted to like this app. But the system wants you to lose weight by looking a shitton of sittups and puts other exercises behind a paywall. You can still use the sit ups feature to accrue points with other exercises, but the point accumulation is so slow you don't get enough story fast enough to keep your motivation up.

Not even listening to Takahata101 calling me a little fatty could keep my tied to this thing.

Has anyone here tried Fitbit or a competitor?

>>9548875

I lost 45lbs recently, because I couldn't fit a few dresses I had bought. Count calories almost autistically and exercise if you want to. Use MyFitnessPal and a TDEE calculator and eat at a deficit. Losing weight is not difficult. Sometimes a little frustrating but it's about making lifestyle changes and learning about proper nutrition and putting it into practice. The threads on /fit/ called /fat/ help a lot and provide good motivation and info. Good luck.

I can fit the dresses now but turns out they just don't flatter me anyway.

>>9549514
who is this a gif of, if you don't mind me asking? is it a VK artist or someone western?

>>9549532
Kozi of Malice Mizer.

tall and a lil chubs
>was 175 lbs
>now 155

getting there. I want to lose arm fat and belly fat.

anyone know how to prevent bloating? I'm new to this

>>9549497
I enjoy it, but dropped the story part. its a good counter and do all my other exercises without it

>>9549554
cut out salt and excessive carbs. Fruit carbs and whole wheat carbs are OK tho. skip dairy if you can.

>>9549497
What is this?

>>9549027
Well fruits are okay, you need a little bit of natural sugar in your diet unless you're getting it elsewhere.

>>9549595
A fitness app that's like an otome game but the guys call you fat and help you do sit ups. There's a girl version too

>>9549584
my friends have been slapping fruits out of my hands (not literally) whenever I say I want to have one and its healthier than sweets.
I'm told ITS STILL SUGAR! but I'm addicted to sugar so its a better alt. than you know, pastries for breakfast..

>>9549621
your friends are stupid. fruit sugar is perfectly fine and won't make you bloat.

[pretend spoilers] trust me, I'm ana, I KNOW what will and won't make you bloat from years of experience.[/pretend spoilers]

I'm on Keto. I've cut out all carbs except ones coming from veggies. 20lbs down and 3-4" off b/w/h (varies, 4" off my stomach though) in two months. I also do intermittent fasting, where you eat between a 6 or 8 hour timeframe and only two meals. Most of your calories come from natural/healthy fats (meats/animal fat, avacados, eggs, cheese, olive oil, etc) and that causes very little insulin spikes and keeps you satiated throughout the day. Otherwise it's meat and veggies. I don't really pay attention to calories but most days I'm around 1200-1400, which was about what I ate when I lost weight just counting calories but still ate carbs and sugar. I feel much more full throughout the day and my mood is 1000% better. I'm super-energetic too, like it doesn't run out like it did with sugar in my system all the damn time.

>>9549621
I don't even consume fruit sugar, with exception to lemon or lime juice. The only sugars I allow myself are occasional baked treats that I make myself using low glycemic sugars (like stevia) and almond or coconut flour. Most of the time I'm lazy and just make some little cream cheese treats. (peanut butter, no sugar added and dark chocolate, or dark chocolate and matcha) I think it's about 5 carbs max for one of these and it's in a cupcake liner.

Once I get to my goals I'll reintroduce fruit to my diet, and probably sweet potatoes and brown rice, beans and corn. My body hates bread/flour and whenever it's in anything even just flour added as a thickener my stomach cramps up. Never did that before.

Fellow chubby here! I feel your struggles, OP. I have to be very choosy about which pieces I buy to make sure that they fit me well. One of my biggest motivations has been the recent purchase of my all-time dream dress, which broke my heart when I tried it on thinking I was still ok measurement wise. It's been a slow going process, but I have to remind myself that if you're going to do weight loss the healthy way, it does take time. l don't have a scale at home so it's harder than I would like to keep track of progress, but after about a month of being a lot stricter about my eating and exercise habits, I think I'm finally starting to notice some changes :)

Some things I would offer as tips:
-if you haven't already, start keeping a food journal and count your calories! I like to use MFP on my phone.
-Cardio is good for burning immediate calories, but doing weight training will help increase the amount of calories you burn throughout the day (over time, as you build muscle)
-Remember that even if you go a little over today, you always get to start over again tomorrow :)

Lost 140lbs in the last year and a half. Used to be pushing 300lbs, now am 130lbs. I sprained my rib when I was fat and it was a huge wake up call--I couldn't speak or sit up for over 2 months and could barely breathe. Being as big as I was made any motion push down on my sprained rib. I also lived with my awful inlaws and never left my room area upstairs--my husband would just bring me fast food and soda on his way home from work every day.

I completely quit soda and started walking everywhere that I could. I started by replacing all of my meals with lean cuisines until I finally got all the junk food cravings and larger portion cravings out of my system. Now I cook a lot of my meals and eat mostly fish and seafood. I don't "diet" per say, as I still allow myself treats--just in moderation. Also, if you ever go out to eat, ask for a to-go box at the beginning and put half of your food in there before you start eating. You HAVE to want it--half measures and giving up doesn't work. Also, restaurant salads are usually the highest calorie thing on the menu--don't bother with them.

It isn't fun and it isn't immediate, but you'll feel so much better. I also started lifting weights instead of focusing on cardio.

The day I was able to fit into brand for the first time in over 7 years, I started sobbing. I only own a few pieces at the moment, since I'd cleared out my old wardrobe when I got fat, but every time I'm able to finally afford a new piece it's worth everything. (though, losing weight and eating healthy is expensive--it can be done on a tight budget, but it requires a LOT of work)

Sorry for the rambling blog post--I'm on mobile and am really tired. Hope this helps!

Problem with calorie counter apps is unless it's packaged or food from a chain store it's hard to gauge how much is actually in there. Yes I know there's weighing and measuring stuff but I don't have time for that kind of stuff,

>>9549668
Sleep is super effective at fat loss. Make sure that you are getting enough sleep, at least 8 hours. I find that working out in the evening and then sleeping works great for me. Some people swear by early morning fasted cardio. I prefer doing it at night though.

>>9549682
Grats anon!

>>9549730
Thanks! I still do double-takes in the mirror lol

>>9549682
Anon you look so happy and cute, I'm so happy for you! <3

>>9549682
I need this to-go box tip thank you!

I absolutely hate how fat I have gotten and I am even angrier that I was right all along and something was going wrong with me

Ive never drank sodas, alcohol, or even coffee.

My family rarely had snacks in the house and my dad is a huge health nut so we always ate lean chicken and turkey and tuna and shit.

But after getting nexplanon I started slowly ballooning even though nothing had changed, figured that was the BC, and then I started REALLY BALLOONING and started thinking my thyroid could possibly be wack because my mom had the same problem around the same age.

So I finally got labs done and im low on b12, my thyroid is low, and I got the nexplanon out. Doctor gave me thyroid medication and now im finally losing weight.

Too bad I didnt figure this out until after I ballooned to over 200 lbs. I want to fucking die sometimes. I just want to get back to 135. Every time I see myself in the mirror I dont look anything like how I always see myself in my mind.

But its starting to happen now, ive lost almost 10 lbs so far and I know im going to cry when I can finally fit my dream dress.

Then again even when I was 130 lbs my boobs were still huge, so I may never fit into my dream dress unless I get a reduction, which I have been considering.

>>9549043
>5'7

Killing yourself would be faster, manlet brother.

Threadly reminder to read the sticky. If you are new this will really help to cover the basics.
http://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

Figure out your TDEE, eat right, do a bit of cardio and weights and you'll be on your way.
Stick with it and you'll make it breh

>>9549724
Sleep is fucking ace, it's helped me sort out my diet and feel less lethargic during the day.

>>9549480
Yeah it is the absolute worst. My boyfriend is 6'3" so I'm constantly jealous that he can eat more than I do without it being overboard.

>>9549682
You shrunk so much! This is so motivating. How tall are you?

>>9549793
Since you have first hand experience, could you give a bit on insight into how you started ballooning?

You say you changed nothing and you gained quite a bit of weight and I know factors like b12 and thyroid complications can affect metabolism, but from what I've read hypothyroidism only contributes to around 5-10 pounds?

>The cause of the weight gain in hypothyroid individuals is also complex, and not always related to excess fat accumulation. Most of the extra weight gained in hypothyroid individuals is due to excess accumulation of salt and water. Massive weight gain is rarely associated with hypothyroidism. In general, 5-10 pounds of body weight may be attributable to the thyroid, depending on the severity of the hypothyroidism.
(https://www.thyroid.org/thyroid-and-weight/))

I really want to get into Lolita but I'm too chubby need to lose 40 lbs. I'm 5 ft tall and weight 143 pounds. Help?

>>9549764
Awww thank you!! I never realized how much my mood and energy was affected until after it got better. And my hair finally started growing too! I'd been trying to get it long for years, but it was so unhealthy from my weight.
>>9549781
Happy to help!!
>>9549816
Thanks! I'm somewhere in between 5'9" to 5'10" depending on who's measuring lol.

How do you break bad habits like overeating or the urge to finish your plate no matter what?

>>9549620
Yeah i got that. What's it called so i can look it up and check it out on my phone

>>9549043
>escape DYEL land
>focus on cutting after short bulk

Maybe next year brush.

>>9549873
Remove the foods in which I know make me want to over eat.

>>9549817
Well when I got the nexplanon bc inserted I noticed that I started gainnig weight easier than normal so I started cutting back immediately and that helped a little but about a year into using it unless I was working out every day and cutting back a lot I just wouldnt lose basically anything.

Soon it started being that the most I could really manage was to make myself stop gaining weight, but I wasnt losing any. It was extremely frustrating and I thought I just wasnt trying hard enough.

Any time I ate anything slightly above 1200 calories I would gain. Even when I was working at Disney and walking through the parks almost every single day I could only manage to stay my current weight.

I didnt change anything, but I did snack too much (even on healthy foods too many cal. are too many cal.), which my body used to be able to handle, and I did change that when I realized my body was not handling it like normal anymore

>>9549880
Yep, planning on hopefully hitting at least 1/2.25/3.25/4 and looking like I lift by next year around April. I was already pretty chubby at 25%+ bf when I started lifting/bulking and I'm pretty sure I exceeded 30 by the end of that short bulk.

I don't wanna start bulking until this shit gut is completely gone and I have a solid base to work off of.

>>9549794
F-fuck you anon ;_;

>>9549817
Also I dont know much about my thyroid problem other than it runs in the family and can fuck you up. Im sure my weight gain was a combination of BC/Thyroid changing my metabolism and me not catching it soon enough and eating my regular amount, which was never really a lot by any standards was suddenly too much and I had no idea.

Funnily enough Im about the same age and weight as my mom was when they found out she had thyroid issues (although hers was so extreme it had to be removed). She lost weight rather quickly after that, so im hoping I will too.

>>9549887
>>9549901
Ah okay, thanks anons. Good luck with your weight loss.

Birth control can be a massive bitch.

>>9549889
Just make sure you don't cut so hard you fuck your strength. Abs aren't worth shit lifts.
I'm trying to lift my way out of manlet auschwitz and I'm miron those stats though.

>>9549682
How much do you exercise exactly?

I got a huge wake up call trying things on for a meet a few weeks ago. Only a couple dresses fit. I gained a bunch of weight over the past couple years and hadn't worn much lolita. But I've gotten back in the habit of eating lower carb, i started a few months ago but stopped because of houseguests plus bad willpower. Low carb helps me a lot, i think sweets fuck up my blood sugar and make me crazy hungry. Ive been looking at like keto meal plans and still eating a little grains. I joined a gym. It's too early to see any results from the gym but I've already lost a few pounds.
I have to stick to this!

>>9549690
Losing weight is hard if you don't have time. When I don't have calorie information, I usually just look for it in the database and pick one of the higher calorie totals. Better to overestimate than under.

The only times in my life I've lost successfully I've counted obsessively. Log everything-- even the small stuff.

Every time I diet I plunge in to an eating disorder.

In the past I dropped to 105lb from 155lb in 4 1/2 months. This was done by eating 600-1000cal a day, daily 2 hr workout, & excessive sleeping to fight off hunger.

3yrs later I blow up to 145lb & its a constant battle to loose weight on a more mindful diet of 1200cal with a 1 hr workout.
I'll loose a few pounds but the next month it returns slowly, despite dieting.

Does anyone have advice or shared experience with this?

>>9550048
Slow and steady wins the race

>and keeps you from losing years of your life to medical treatment, missing school and friends, permanent heart damage that makes you pass out a lot, sleep disorder, etc etc etc

But for real if you're worried about that try a dietitian that is ok with you losing healthy weight. Try to restrict less and exercise more, but don't go ham. I'd suggest if you eat, let's say 2200 cals on a "bad day" for example, start at 1800/1900 daily and work your way down to maintenance for your goal weight. Then exercise to gain muscle and get a nice body.

Remember muscle weighs more than fat too so as you exercise you aren't gonna lose a ton of weight as much. Yet you will look wonderful.

>>9550058

Thanks Senpai

It took about a yr to break from the 'must stay skinny no matter what' mindset. Really liked how I looked, but my social life went to crapt because I had no energy left for it. This later caused me to get depressed & start binge eating. I'm scared of relapsing & going back to my old dieting method, but maybe I'm gaining muscle & just not seeing results yet on this healthier diet. Thanks for your words & encouragement.

>>9548948
Anon you are replying to here.
Whilst I certainly feel very fat right now, I'm definitely not.
My BMI is still well within the healthy range even though I'm short (160cm).
A lot of people would even argue that I am a healthier weight now than I will be at my goal measurements (when I might be slightly underweight).

I'm just loosing weight for me because I want my skirts to fit, and because no one can convince me that I'm not a whale right now because over the last 10 years my weight has gradually gone from 47kg to 57kg.

>>9549690

I’ve had better luck reversing calorie-counting to do mealprep for a whole week in advance instead of entering calories after every little thing I eat.

This means that I figure out how many pork chops, chicken filets, bread, tuna, etc will fit into my calorie allowance. Then I buy enough for 6 days and cook it. After the food cools down, it goes into tupperwares, which I store in the fridge. Every day I eat the meal that is allotted for the day. For lunches, since I don’t have a microwave at the office to reheat, I buy ingredients for sandwiches and make them fresh. I leave enough calories to buy an extra latte and a croissant as well.

You can change it up and have 7 different meal plans for the whole week if you prefer, or plan entirely around store bought food. For me, it’s killing several birds to prep the week’s worth of meals as it’s cheap, I don’t have to count every meal’s calories, I don’t have to think about what I’m going to eat next, I don’t have to spend every evening cooking, and I do it all while knowing I’m at a calorie deficit. The only downside is you need to watch your nutrients if you’re eating the same thing every day, otherwise a nutrient deficit could become a problem by the end of the week (I use cronometer for this). I recommend taking multivitamins to help hit the RDA on the nutrients, especially those eating less calories.

I resorted to this as I can’t calorie-count. Not being in America where most of the data seems to be from is one thing, being in Asia and having imports from other Asian countries takes it to a whole new level. I once bought Tesco tuna cans that were labeled in Thai, that I can’t read. There’s entire aisles of food with no nutrition info at all. Sure, I could guess at how many calories something that used to be a fish and is now a flat crunchy snack is, but at that point I might as well roll 3 d10s and use that number for all the accuracy.

Former fatty here. Went from a 30in waist to a 24 inch at my smallest (when I was going through some serious shit that put me off my food). This took place over the course of 5 years or so.

While I looked pretty good that size my period stopped and I decided I was probably flirting on the edge of major health issues. So I gained a bit of weight, but I'm 5'2", so even gaining a couple cm looks like trash. Now I'm hovering around 66cm and feel pretty gross honestly. I walk just about everywhere or bike. Honestly though that's not an unhealthy measurement and I still fit all of my dresses, although one ancient baby skirt without shirring is tighter than I prefer. So I deal with it for the most part.

The way I did it was just not eating enough and walking everywhere, and being constantly stressed and nervy. I honestly would never recommend my way of losing weight, it's physically and mentally unhealthy and I'm lucky I didn't have any particularly bad side effects.

If you're going to lose weight do it the safe and healthy way.

So few months ago I decided I must do something and start being healthy because I do not want to end up as fat 30 yo. Actually, I'm pretty proud how it have stuck. I have over came my cravings for fastfood and cut a lot unnecessary calories and maintained a workout routine which is working. I used to feel like a fucking whale until me and my boyfriend discovered the scale we were using is not accurate and it was apparently because the bathroom floor is wonky. My weight dropped from 70kg to 65kg in seconds. And this was with lolita on. Immediately felt as I was finally having some procress even though I probably have not lost any weight but gained more muscle as I do quite heavy workout. However, I have currently gotten 5cm off my waist and almost 10 from my upper thights. My abd are also starting to show through but I have kept those in good shape anyways. Feels so fucking good.

But I must admit this have it's downsides. I'm super stressed out all the time I will gain the weight back and I am worried I will end up with eating disorder. I work out almost every day and currently I have experienced sudden loss of my strength in my other daily routines or walks. I also eat 1800 kcals per day and I'm not hungry, a lot veggies, fruits, usually eggs, chicken and porridge too. What can it be? I have had my bloodtests taken recently but nothing was found. I have other symptoms too but doctors weren't interested. I hope it's nothing serious.

>>9550128
Smart plan anon

Also
>3 d10
I feel like gamifying food like DND would be really fun. Roll a nat 20? Steak dinner. Roll a 3? Beans and rice for you

I used to have a BMI of around 17.5 but after being rejected by a guy I ate so many serves of wedges with sweet chilli and sour cream that I gained 3kgs in a week. It's been several years and I still have a terrible relationship with food, my BMI is now close to 23

I had some great results with MFP a few years ago before I stopped, going back again and hoping I can be more obsessive with what I eat in order to cut down on calorie and snacks

>>9549497
I downloaded this and holy mother fucker this has me pissing myself laughing.
Does laughing help you lose weight because, if so, this app is going to turn me ana.

>>9548875
I was (what I considered) chubby about a year ago, at 5'3 with a 26 inch waist and 116 lbs. I know that doesn't sound extreme or anything but the way my body is built, anything over 25 inches starts making me look kind of blocky and shapeless.

Cutting out soda, even diet soda, did a lot for me. It noticeably reduced my bloat. I recommend it to anybody as a first step. I also came to the realization that it's okay to not finish everything on my plate. I'm not sure why I felt like I needed to, maybe out of politeness or something. But after coming to that realization and only eating until I wasn't hungry anymore I ate about half of what I did before.

I lost 2 inches off of my waist within the year and I attribute it to those very simple lifestyle changes. I'm 32/24/35 (about 82/61/88) and about 105 pounds now. I think at this point I would have to start exercising a lot or seriously restrict my intake to lose much more weight. I wouldn't mind getting down to 100 lbs and 23 inches but I have a feeling that's bordering on unhealthy. Should this be my stopping point, or could I aim to lose more if I wanted to?

This is what I use to keep track of weight an calories. It's not particularly complicated but it's cute and keeps me motivated.

>>9550199
I'm jealous. I'm 5'3"ish and I got down to 118 a while ago and I still had the most ridiculous bust. I pretty much lose weight off of my hips/ass and upper arms first which is unfortunate as that's pretty much a useless measurement in Lolita. I've never been under a 28" waist.

>>9549904
Tbh I'd be willing to take a relatively small strength cut just to guarantee I won't have a hanging gut when I bulk again.

Don't mire me yet boyo, I'm only at .90/1.5/2.25/3 right now.

>>9550199
105 at 5'3 is a pretty ideal weight. 100 is considered underweight.

I'm also 5'3 and 105 is my goal weight. Unlike you, however, I have the opposite problem. I'm currently about 96 lbs and I look like a fucking bone. I have a really fast metabolism and I don't eat much when I'm sick, and I just got over the flu, so yeah I look... bad. Gonna have to eat a lot to get back up to 105 so I can stop looking like a cancer patient.

>>9549030
Try herbal tea instead, unsweetened. Warmer water will make you feel fuller.

>>9549873
Smaller plates. Yes, your brain is that dumb.

>>9549016
>TFW fasting to fit in alcohol calories

My uni's paper ran an article about drinkorexics once.

>>9550237
There's not much you can do when it comes to skeletal structure. I'll also be about that in the waist when I'm at that weight. Getting much thinner than that is damn near impossible, I'm just not built that way and I have to accept it.

I'm 5'2" and as a teenager I was always between 115 and 120, but I got up to 140 my last year of high school because I stopped playing sports. At the time, my mom was being a clusterfuck about her diet and it was a wake up call. I made some progress by the time I went away to college and was back to 115, but living alone without a meal plan made me really budget my food. I used MyFitnessPal for everything. I counted obsessively. Ngl spent money on books instead of food for a bit too. I got down to 97, but I felt like absolute shit. By chance I took an elective course called diseases of eating and the crazy ED shit I learned about was a wake up call in the other direction. I was getting a little too happy about losing weight and my preoccupation with calories was getting in the way of my personality. I stopped being diligent with calorie counting for a while. I went up to 113 while studying abroad because I wanted to let go and have fun. I don't regret it because it was great food, but I wasn't being mindful of what I was eating because I was scared of turning into that Skelly person obsessed with numbers again.

After I got back, I decided that I needed a happy medium.

Now that I'm out of school and have a good job and control over what food is in my house, I hover between 105 and 110, but there's way less fluctuation than before. I don't bother with structured meals. I just grab smaller snack type things and avoid eating too much bread or dairy at once. I exercise by running and doing some barre/body weight exercises that I follow along with on YouTube. I want to join a studio so that I can go in person and be more motivated though. I'm definitely skinny fat rn. My waist is 25-26in. At my lowest, I was at 23in but I had zero ass and could still bloat so it didn't look good.

Sorry for the rambling mess, but this is where I'm at after 9 years. I'm lucky I don't have any health issues that made weight loss difficult, but it's still a constant effort.

>>9549873
Stop eating bread and sugar. I keep saying this but meats, fats and veggies are impossible to overeat on. (fats have a lot of calories but fill you up and keep you feeling full and don't cause sugar spikes) 9 times out of 10 you're not consuming nearly as much energy that your body stores as fat. Do watch out for proteins though because it can get turned to glucose. But that really takes a lot. Still, it's way better to have two hamburger patties and a huge salad than two normal hamburgers and a pile of fries. When in doubt, load your plate up with veggies that you like.

>>9550160

Well, if you want to gamify it...

- Dungeon boss is your fat, its HP is the # of pounds you need to lose
- Choose your weapon: CICO, keto, cabbage, PMSF, exercise, etc etc.
- The number of weapons you can equip depends on how many you can juggle together (eg keto isn't compatible with the cabbage diet)
- Every morning, roll the weighing machine to see how much HP you knocked off
- If you break your weapon you lose the roll, the boss regains HP (your weight comes back)
- If you did everything right but your period rolls in, dungeon boss has cast a Stop spell, you progress really slowly for a few turns (days)
- Game over when the dungeon boss either loses all his HP ( congrats!) or doubles his HP (in which case you should probably call up a psychiatrist or something, because gamifying is clearly not working....)

It's a slow, grinding game because it's freemium (hah). To speed things up, you'll have to pay real money for a liposuction.

When you defeat the dungeon boss buy yourself a new dress as loot.

If you really want to I guess you could go all the way and draw up a statblock, dungeon map... whatever helps?

>>9550367
This! It makes a huge difference when i drop the carby and sweet shit. I stop being hungry and randomly eating a ton. Also personally i think my digestion works better that way too.

>still waiting for my personal wake up call to stop being an overweight shit

I'm not overweight (5'5, 134 lbs, 66cm waist) but I'm not healthy, and I carry most of that weight on my hips/ass/thighs. I'd really like to get down to 120something. I am super new at this and have no idea how to go about it but I'm gonna start with drinking more water bc I'm literally constantly dehydrated. I wanna work on my legs, arms and belly the most, bc I want to fit better into AP.
Any tips would be appreciated! Mostly I'm posting to make myself accountable. If I post publically, then maybe I'll actually do it...

PS what is the movie that OP's image is from? I remember the premise but not the name.

Good luck to all the fatty chans and skinny fat chans.
May Mana bless you on your journey.

I suggest HIT for anyone that's just starting out but doesn't have joint problems.

What size would be ideal for lolita?
/not that I'd ever get to that size, but just wondering/

>>9550451
"Ideally" 18 bmi

>>9550451
5' - 5'4" (152cm - 162cm), 18~22 BMI. Pear shape, slim with a small bust. Thinner arms and legs are a plus.

That is the ideal from what I have seen.I feel like anyone with good proportions and a smaller bust could fit lolita well enough regardless of weight.

>>9550421
Mr Rococo, a short film.

>>9550464
>pear shape
>thinner legs

Anon.

>>9550470
You can be pear-shaped and have thin calves, anon. I'm not talking extreme Chun Li thicc thighs, I meant a slight pear. It's more flattering to the lolita silhouette that the other body types.

>>9550451
I'd say about 86-88cm bust and 65-68cm waist would be a comfy fit in most brands. Just keep in mind that a good fit depends a lot on your proportions as well (like how tall you are or how long your torso is), not just simple bust/waist measurements.

>>9550479
The very nature of a pear shape gives you thicker thighs and wider hips. Calves aren't your entire leg. Do you even into proportions.

>slight pear
Then say slight pear. Realistically anyone who is petite with an average or smaller bust is an idea candidate for Lolita, actual pear shapes would most likely have issues with tights fitting properly. Sure you can hide your hips under a petticoat but what about warped patterns on OTKs and tights?

If you're going to try and sound like you know something maybe check your facts.

>>9550374
This is a really cute idea and I'm gonna roll with it:

Boss: Fast food and Chinese Takeout
HP: 7/20
Weapon: CICO, Keto, IF
-Weapon broke 2 weeks ago, boss HP went from 3/20 to 7/20
-Boss to cast stop spell in 4 days.

Could maybe incorporate body measurements or % body fat as your "stats."

My bmi has always floated around 18/19, the problem is I'm extremely pear shaped, and I hate how obvious my hips are in boystyle. Everyone in my family is pear shaped so I don't know if there's a way to change that, is there particular diet/excercise routines that has helped anyone shrink hips and upper thighs?

>>9549682
This is so inspiring anon, I'm starting right around the same place and I'm the same height as you. Thank you for posting!

>>9550685
You're exactly like me, down to the boystyle and same bmi even. What I suggest is stay away from shorter shorts and make sure they puff well on you. Breeches that hit the knee are ideal really. Since you're so thin, you really can't lose anymore weight. Also jackets that cover your thighs work very well, I try to avoid short vests/jackets. I have violin hips + my hip bones jet out a good 1.5 inches from my waist so it's so weird looking in boystyle. I feel your pain, I have an androgynous face and flat chest but my hips just give it away immediately so annoying!

>>9549065
>>9549043
well, would you rather have a fatass thats above 6 feet or a ripped manlet?

>>9550482
desu modern AP goes up to 95cm easily, I think 82-95 is a comfy lolita range but 84-90 will guarantee a fit for 90% of dresses.

>>9550454
Not true at all unless you're taller than 5'6" IMO, I'm a 5'4" hourglass and have fit lolita exceptionally well at 19.5-21.5 BMI. When I was 18 BMI a lot of dresses hung off me and my skelly mode face wasn't kawaii. Above 21 is starting to push it because I get a bust above 90cm then, but that'd still fit a lot of brands and it depends on your style.

>>9550374
You could try a gamification RPG habit app like Habitica if you really wanted to run with this.

I've been too depressed to get my shit together and lose weight for years but I'm really trying right now. At 5'4" I gained from 115 to 160 over about four years; I've got myself back down to 140 or so but I'd really like to be back in the 120s, so I've started on the Fast Metabolism Diet and
>inb4 muh metabolism is a meme
it's helping me a lot; the recipes are all organic, no sugar, caffeine, or dairy, etc, so it's a detox while also forcing me to adhere to smaller portions and better choices
I'm absolutely exhausted, but if this works as well as it claims to, I'll be able to hit my goal in a month or so.
Good luck everybody!

>>9550451
84cm bust/65cm waist, ribcage no larger than 70cm, no taller than 5' 3", skinny arms and legs, small enough for most old school but large enough to wear a pushup bra for new stuff if needed. Rectangle or very slight pear, if you're a smaller/shorter pear then relatively large thighs won't stretch your tights too much.

I just don't see the point in even trying anymore. I worked so hard to lose weight and I did it only to gain it all back because I had heart surgery then got super depressed after it and was in a metal hospital for 32 days. I gained it all back and I just can't stand the idea of doing it all over again. I felt just as sick as I did when I was skinnier than I am now. It was so much easier to move my body when I was lighter. Now I just don't feel like moving at all. I think I'm still really depressed. I just want to stop being depressed so I can get my energy back to motivate myself to lose weight.

>>9550454
I can only fit into brand at 18 BMI or less. being tall with broad shoulders is suffering

>mfw I'm at my lowest weight in a while yet my waist is somehow two inches bigger than before

Welp.

>>9550951
At that point I'd probably give up and alter it or not wear brand, but I guess everyone deals with low weight differently. When I had a BMI of 18 I had really irregular periods and was tired and cold all the time, it was pretty shit.

>>9550958
This right here is exactly why obsessing over BMI is fucking pointless. Enjoy your ED and yo-yo weightloss, anons!

>>9550945
>was in a metal hospital

that's br00tle dude

>>9549682
I feel a bit bad because I've been judging you harshly for your coords. I hope you can buy all the brand you want now, you look really cute and congrats!

>>9550986
+1111111
It's like people don't fucking realize muscle mass is a thing that you need to perform bodily functions. BMI is utter shit, at least track your body fat percentage people.

>>9550451
I'm 5'5", 95 lbs., with a small bust and a 60 cm waist. I often feel too small for certain AP stuff, and it fit me better when I was around 105 lbs.

>>9551002
Anon, you really need to gain at least 20lbs. That's more than underweight. Be good to yourself.

>>9551004
I already know this, thank you.

Hey everyone, I've got a question here. I'm not overweight per se, but I'm trying to lose about 20 lbs. I am calorie counting and staying under my TDEE (I'm short, so it's not a whole lot.)

I don't really like exercise except for yoga. I was wondering, will yoga hep tone my body at all? I know it probably will not help weight loss in any way, but will I have to add in cardio and weight lifting in order not to have a saggy body? Will just yoga (every day) be enough?

Thanks and sorry for my stupid question.

>be me 3 years ago
>work awful, physically straining job
>look fantastic though; 5’9, 150lbs, 89cm bust, 68cm waist, solid muscle
>get office job
>lose that muscle
>put on 15lbs of fat

Feels awful. I’ve been trying so hard to get back to where I was but it’s such a slow process. The scale only shows I’ve lost 2lbs in the past year, but thankfully I’m getting that lost muscle back quick so I’m not sure how much I’ve actually lost, but it’s more than 2lbs. I just want so badly to be back where I was, I hate feeling bloated all the time. I’m wearing the same size pants, but they’ve gotten so uncomfortable and now I have muffin tops over them. Sizing up is a little big on me but looks better, and I can't tell if it's my imagination or not, but I feel like I have new stretch marks.

For the past year I’ve been going to a gym 3-5x per week and have made good changes to my diet such as cutting sugar and empty carbs, but I feel like snacking at work keeps sabotaging me. However, I measured myself today and felt a little more hopeful; only 4cm away on both my bust and waist measurements to get me back where I was! Any advice on how to break a plateau is very welcome; I feel like even if I lose just a couple pounds of fat then already I'll look much better in lolita, but I just can't seem to make any major break-throughs.

>>9550425
I tried to find a good beginner HIIT but they kept having stuff I can't do yet like Burpees and planks without knee support. Have any recs?

>>9551013
You need to exercise more than just yoga to prevent saggy skin, as well as stay hydrated

>>9550929
>ribcage

This. in b4 haha you're not big boned fatty chan

I worked with a girl with DD cups who had a chest measurement of 36" and meanwhile I have Bs and I measure 40". It's part of hte reason I don't have much inspiration to thin down. Even with 5% body fat I would stick have an enormous ribcage and hip bones that are way too high giving me stupid hip dents. Even at my skinniest in high school I looked chubby in bikinis because of how they lay in my stupid hips.

>>9550986
>>9550999
Yeah I used to work out 6x a week and stopped because of work and school. It's such a pain in the ass to work out again and not be able to go as long/far as you used to.

>>9551013
Yoga can improve your fluid retention because movement and stretching encourages your lymphatic fluid to flow to the nodes and get processed and leave instead of being bloat. It also can improve circulation and joint strength. However, that bloat is not that noticeable because it's just water. You should add some weights and cardio to that to see actual weight loss.

>>9551056
At least lolita hides hip dips, anon. I used to be super insecure about mine but now no-one ever sees them.

I'll never fit into brand because I have big boobs, always did, even when I was thing.
However, I would love to lose weight as my weight almost doubled when I got sick.

It's a drag to do it alone, but it doesn't have to be boring if you have a partner to motivate eachother and share progress and tips with.

Anyone want to team up or make a small group?

>>9551063
hip dips are super cute, anon! not to mention, all sorts of gorgeous women have them and it does not detract from their beauty at all.


>maybe even a little lewder than hips without dips

>>9551063
I'm not lolita though, just a cosplayer hijacking the thread. The mods seem to hate these threads when they're cosplay related but lolita is fine?

>>9551063
Only farmers on lolcow think anything negatively about hip dips, anon. Most people seem to think they're sexier than "normal" hips, or so it seems.

>>9549873
Pretty much >>9550332
Seems silly, but it works.

I used to be that girl that finished not only her meal at restaurants but her friends' meals too. Over time, I slowly decreased the portions I ate, but even recently I realized that those decreased portions were still more than my body needed and if I just took my time to eat I'd consume a lot less food overall.

Smaller plates are very helpful in this regard because when you load up food on a big plate, it seems like the plate is empty even when the portion is perfect. You can safely completely fill a small plate and still get a reasonable portion of food.

It also helps to take your time when eating. If you scarf down your meal your brain won't clue in that you're already full and you end up overeating. I like to eat my small portion and then wait. Sometimes I actually feel a bit hungry at the end of the meal so I give it 10-15 mins. If I still feel hungry then I get a little bit more, but I've been pleasantly surprised to discover I actually don't need to eat more 9/10 times.

And on finishing your plate: don't. Get a take-out box or tupperware and save it for later.

Other stuff I did that helped me: it's me and my husband at home, so we stopped buying junk food. I've found that with few exception (craving a bit of chocolate during my period) I don't even want junk food anymore, even when I have the opportunity to buy it. I also drink lots of water. I've heard that apparently there's times when thirst will feel like hunger. Idk how true that is but it's good to drink water anyways. Tea is good too. We walk and bike when we can, and hopefully I can introduce weights in at some point. In the span of a month and a half I've lost 5 lbs and 2 cm off my waist. It's not a huge change but it actually makes me very happy because my clothes fit so much better already, and I have so much more energy it's shocking.

>>9551076
Didn't know, I always thought normal hips were more sexy and rounded. I think hip dips can make you look athletic if you're very skinny but above that you get unflattering saddlebags. I usually don't really think about it unless I'm going to wear a bodycon dress though, it doesn't bother me in jeans and obviously isn't visible in anything flared.

OP here, just wanted to thank you all for giving me ideas and sharing stories, it's been giving me the confidence boost I need to continue. I started my weight loss progress this week at 150 pounds, which doesn't sound much, but I'm 4'11", and this is pretty much considered borderline obese by the BMI. Granted, my measurements aren't super huge (My bust is 96 cm, my waist is 74 cm), and I can fit shirred brand pieces comfortably, but I would like to fit non-shirred pieces too without using a sports bra and practically squeezing myself into them (boobloaf much??). This has been my highest weight ever and I cried when I saw how much I'm weighing, because I cannot fucking believe that I left myself get so big. I just want to have a normal weight for someone my height and enjoy my hobby without feeling self conscious about how I look and I don't want to keep constantly worrying that pieces won't fit me. So far I've just lost a pound, but I've been walking everyday for 30 min-1 hr time periods at a moderate pace (I live a sedentary lifestyle), counting calories and eating lots of veggies, and drinking lots of water. I've been doing this for three days, so one pound is not too bad! For now I'm thinking of losing up to 20 pounds, but 120's is already considered a healthy weight for someone my size so might as well push it to that range. I want to quit the fatty-chan life already.

I have a low BMI but all the fat I have goes to my ass. Like, I have almost no boob, small waist, BUT MY ASS IS SO BIG. At least having a big ass is popular right now I guess. But I feel embarrassed going out because I am the only one who looks so disproportionate. I pretty much only wear dresses because they cover it up. I can't wear shorts because my waist and hip measurements aren't the same size, which sucks because I really like shorts. I know targeted weight loss isn't a thing, so maybe gaining weight and hoping it goes to my boobs would be a better solution OTL but that could backfire SO BAD. Losing any more would make me unhealthy though. I heard birth control makes the fat center at your boobs more..? Am I going to have this shape forever ;___; Maybe it's not as big of a deal as I think it is but it really bothers me and it's hard to wear a lot of clothes, especially jp fashion...

>>9551125
Lol oh please, cry more.

How is having a big ass giving you issues with j-fash? What style are you wearing?

>>9551125
Was waiting for the obnoxious humblebrag.

>>9551125
>low BMI

sure jan

>>9551125
Excuse the humble-brag shitters, anon. I can understand this, ESPECIALLY in J-fash, where items are made to fit a pretty 'flat board' frame.

It made me incredibly upset (not really insecure though?) when I was younger, because it sucks to find the perfect piece and then it doesn't fit. It starts to feel like you just CAN'T wear what you like.
You've just got to learn to look at it differently; You've got a universally attractive bodytype and are healthy! Just figure out how to dress to both your preferred style and bodytype.

My measurements always hover around 36-25-40. Finding clothing which is fitted at the waist and hip off-the-rack is virtually impossible. I sure as shit can't wear j-fash unless it's dresses which flair from the waist down. Eventually I learned how to sew, so I can make my own stuff and take in commercial clothing.

>>9551154
I still want to know what j-fash you guys are wearing.

I'm trying to lose just a bit of weight (like 10-15 pounds), but god it's a pain in the ass since I used to have an overpowered metabolism back in high school. I've completely revamped my diet and I'm definitely feeling better for it, but even that with a daily sit-up/crunches routine it didn't do much for my sad, bloated belly (curse my genes for all weight gain going to the stomach). I know it's not even as bad as I think, but it's frustrating going from a flat stomach to a lil blob just staring me down every day. I've ordered an exercise bike since I've heard that cardio is more helpful with general weight loss, so hopefully that'll help me see some results! In the meantime I'll just hide my secret chub behind my petticoats.

>>9551154
Anyway, here's my weightloss-relevant post.

I've seen it said a million times already but it can never be over-stated: BMI means jack shit. Muscle weighs more than fat, and the more muscle you have the more fat you burn at your base metabolic rate.
Start resistance training and MEASURING your body every week alongside your weigh-ins.

If you find yourself regularly going over your daily limit of calories, set your calorie-counter to 1000kcal. When you go over it won't be a big deal, but you'll still get that warning before you ACTUALLY go over. (I hope that this makes sense.)

A good idea if you work through the day is to eat:
>Carbs at breakfast. Gets you up and going.
>Protein for lunch. You're likely going to burn the most energy after lunch at an active job, and do any exercise after work.
>Fat for dinner. Keeps you full so that you don't snack at night, and makes you comfy and sleepy.

>>9551157
Lolita, Otome and Larme for me. There are plenty of Western-brand substitutes, sure; But have you seen an Otome/Larme brand piece (WITHOUT an open hip measurement) that is over 40"?

>>9551170
Thanks for actually answering. I thought maybe it was larme or himekaji since in lolita, you don't really need to worry about ass size because, you know, dresses and petticoats.

>>9551167
You'd have an argument if you were a man. But BMI works for women because we don't build as much muscle as men. Unless you're shooting up roids, if you're a female and over 25 bmi you're going to be able to lose a few pounds of fat.

>>9550421
Aww man, I know it's kinda pointless to make comparisons, but I'm the same height and at 135 lbs I had a 72 cm waist. Sometimes my weight distribution frustrates me. I look kinda rectangular from the front cause I have a small underbust and hips though my measurements would indicate pear (it's all thighs and butt tho). My waist tends to completely disappear when I gain more than that. I just want a nice small waist. I don't mind losing more weight for it, but the problem is that even at 135 I will have protruding ribs, clavicles and hip bones. I lose more than that and my sternum will have that ridge-y look to it. But I'll still have a (relative to the rest of me) big waist and my thighs will rub and give me rashes.

Basically, I just want my waist and thighs to be more normal without my torso looking emaciated with bones everywhere. But like >>9550340 said I might just have to accept my bone structure/fat distribution being what it is.

When I worked out nearly every day (took a fitness class in high school) I was at 125 lbs and then I did actually have a 66 cm waist! I looked and felt amazing so I'm hoping to get there again. I don't wanna be skinny fat though, so I plan on doing some fun cardio (roller blading, hula hoop, DDR) and lifting 3x a week. My teacher in fitness had us doing this, as well as other good stuff, and it really made a difference in how strong and healthy I was at the time.

Anyone tried nutrisystem. I tried in '07 and the breakfast and snacks were garbage. The muffins tasted like sand. The dinners like chemicals. Then tried again last year with the walmart starters. Everything seemed tasty and the portions were filling. My issue is the soup days seem tough and I still have to buy veggies and milk. So did anyone have long term success. Please no one that hasnt did a prepackaged meal plan. Thanks.

>>9551229
It all tastes so bad and whatever low cal filler they put in can give you insane gas. That said I did lose about 20 pounds while on it, but I kept it off after making other lifestyle choices. It's not a long term solution by any means. (And they like it that way because you have to keep buying their nasty shit.) If I could do it all over again, I'd just count calories while tracking my macros and lifting.

>>9550996
LMAO sorry I meant mental

>>9551070

I'm surprised it's still up. My guess is they're waiting for it to go to shit then ban it. Kinda like the feels thread is now allowed to stick around (it used to get deleted and posters told they should post in adv or soc).

>>9551217
Hi body buddy I'm also 5'5" with stubbornly large waist. I'm about 125 now and i'm just barely below 70cm on my waist. It is so frustrating because even if I worked really hard and lost enough around my waist to fit in smaller pieces, I doubt I'd be able to maintain it and still be healthy and energized and sane. I just have to be at peace with that fact that some pieces will never fit me or if they do they'll only fit me when i'm too busy working out to wear them lol.

>>9551278
Just wear a waist training corset anon

>>9551125
>I can't wear shorts because my waist and hip measurements aren't the same size, which sucks because I really like shorts.
I have a similar problem anon. Three tips, though they're obviously not fool proof:
>stretchy as shit materials
>high waisted shorts are flattering and easier to fit correctly. My favourite pair came from the thrift store and is by Tommy Hilfiger
>If you sew, adjust patterns and clothing to fit

There's also places that cater to different body types with different fits of jeans and shorts. I've seen Fashion Nova being touted on insta and they're quite cheap (under $40) but I haven't had the chance to try them yet. Oh, and idk what jfashion you wear but shirring is your friend - once in a while you can find pretty stretchy shorts (Liz Lisa/Bobon 21 type fash).

>>9550998
Aw thanks! And don't worry too much--it is definitely a bummer to get posted in the ita thread, but I'm trying to get better with each coord. It's just been a long time since I've been able to wear lolita, so I'm a little rusty.
Posting my pics to CoF has been my way of helping build back my confidence, because I have years of my life with barely any photographs of myself out of embarrasment. I just took on an extra side job recently, so hopefully that'll allow me to start rebuilding my wardrobe soon! I'm tired of having to mix my plus-size normie clothes into my coords, but it's all I had that fit me for years that got even close to the aesthetic I liked, and replacing an entire closet of clothes (including normie work clothes and the like) from size 22 down to size 8/10 costs a lot of money and time.
My biggest complaint honestly is my stupid shoes. Losing that much weight actually took me down a half shoe size (from an 11 to a 10.5), but now all my shoes look like clown shoes on me. I'm trying to find some shoes that can work in the meantime though.

>>9549043
doesn't matter, you won't be able to see your abs in brand anyway

>>9551167
You're not supposed to eat less than 1000 calories a day on the regular whatever you weigh, because it's difficult to get all the micro and macronutrients you need in under 1000 cal. You can do yourself damage.

>>9551301
Have you had success thrifting? It can be harder to find smaller sizes in thrift stores because the average woman is large now, but it should be the cheapest way to get a bunch of basics and workwear.

>>9549932
So I've lost 5 pounds in the last month by mostly just not eating horribly. I've worked out a little too. My bmi is still 29 so i have a long way to go. I'm going to boil a bunch of eggs for easy breakfasts this week. Seems like if i start the day with few carbs its easier.

I'm 5'6" and 144 lbs and I'm not sure if this is even overweight. I fit into shirred partially-shirred brand with ease (Most AP is OK but Meta gets too large) but just seeing these numbers are giving me serious dysmorphia issues.

I walk a lot and do trekking, but i have anemia so it does restrict my excercise. Besides eating healthy I'm really at a loss of what to do.

>>9551818
I'm 5'6" and 135lb and have a fat stomach, muffin top, and fat thighs. When I was in my teens I was 125lbs wearing a size 2 and now I'm a size 6 or 7 depending on the jeans.

It's all about body shape it seems. I've got an hourglass figure so my waist is smaller than my hips so I have trouble with skirts unless I pull them right under my belly button but I can wear dresses just fine.

>>9550482
>tfw 88 cm bust, 68 cm waist, 163cm tall
Pretty good stats for fitting into lolita but I still feel fat. My underbust is also much smaller than my bust so a lot of dresses technically fit but don't look particularly flattering.

>>9551880
We have nearly the same measurements anon and you're fine, I've got a smaller waist than you but it's not really convenient because most lolita dresses are not built for hourglasses. I have 40 lolita dresses and have rarely owned anything I couldn't fit, maybe with a bit of shapewear at a push.

>>9549682
Anon not to reign on your parade but watch your calories down the line, I did what you did- maybe 120lbs off to a size 8 uk, four years later while being very active I injured myself & gained quite a bit as I couldnt hit the gym anymore. Just be careful! And you look fab, don't worry about finding smaller clothes we have a site called everything 5 pounds I got a full normie wardrobe off there aside from undies for 340 pretty much,shoes & all not that long ago.

>>9551924
*rain not reign, durr. Sorry!

>>9551818
I am 5'6" and weigh 140. Most my weight is in my lower stomach and hips/legs. 86cm bust, 72cm waist, and 105cm hips. Most Lolita fits my bust fine but my 96cm lower stomach makes it uncomfortable not to mention my longer torso. Socks and tights do not get along with my calves at all but I work with what I've got.

Body shape plays a huge part in whether or not something fits. Weight is almost irrelevant half the time. I am down from 200 pounds though so I'm happy with what I'm at for the most part.

>>9551708
At that high of a BMI it shouldn't take a month to lose 5lbs... You need to step up your game.

>>9551414
>brand
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>>9551971
1 lb a week is perfectly healthy. You usually have less excess skin issues later on if you go slowly. Also it indicates that anon is losing weight by changing long term habits rather than drastic, temporary changes that might not stick. It's why a lot of people balloon back up after they're on the Biggest Loser. All they do on that show is stupid extreme diet and exercise and doesn't teach any long term maintenance.

>>9548951
another MFP user here, i find it difficult to believe that any new app can outdo the years of food listing tracking Self put into MFP's database and the "take a picture of your food and trust some computer to tell you what calories you're eating" just doesn't pass the smell test. Anyone else who use Lose It have thoughts?

>>9552014
I switched from LoseIt to My Fitness Pal because there is a larger library of foods and I wanted to add people for support. LoseIt has less ads and is easier to use but I want to say there are less features, it's been a while

>>9552014
I want to like MFP because it supposedly hooks up to a lot of apps and peripherals to better calculate your calories burned. However I've gone through all the apps it connects with that just uses the phone's pedometer feature and they're all so finicky and weird. I might just have to get a fitbit. Does anyone have experience with those?

>>9552046
I have the fitbit charge HR and I love it. Connects to my MFP flawlessly and calculates calories burned through physical activity. It also measures my heart rate, sleep patterns, and etc. Charges in less than an hour too!

>>9551821

Same, anon. I look slim-ish from the front and really fat from the sides due to the belly.

When I was a teen I was super conscious about weight gain, and around 107. To be honest, a very unhealthy weight.

>>9551955

My bust is like 98 and I have around 76 waist. Hips are around 99 the last i measured. Most of the fitting issues are back, bust and arms.

I know people who are much bigger measurement-wise than me but still look better in lolita purely because they're flat chested.

>>9549481
Read the Sticky and try to find threads started by women and populated by women. Many of the guys are salty when grills show up because they're still upset that lifting doesn't cure autism, its kinda hit and miss. I'd also keep trying, you never know when a genuine helpful person will stumble along.

>>9550409
waiting for what? a Heart attack? get your life in order before its too late you fat fuck.

>>9552124
That board moves too fucking fast.

>5'1
>115lbs
>Haven't been able to hit the gym.

To compensate for a sedentary lifestyle, I'm on my first week of 1200 calories a day. According to what I've read and MyFitnessPal, 1200 calories is fine for 5'1.

But I'm constantly hungry and get really weak, shaky legs.

What the hell? I'm eating plenty of fiber and calcium and taking vitamins.

Is this normal? Anyone else on a restricted diet, how do you deal with hunger pangs?

>>9552140
this one moves too slow, guess its what i'm used to.

alternatively, you could lose some weight and learn to keep up.

>>9552143
Drink water, keeps carbs clean and eat more vegetables. you can never have too many vegetables as long as you stay under your calorie limit.

also, if you have sleep issues, step up your protein intake and always cut sugar where you can.

>>9552148
Thanks!! I'll try doubling up on my spinach with my meals. I've been good with protein- I hate fish so it's been mostly chicken for dinner but totally worth it.

And with the retarded amounts of heat, water refrigerated overnight with cucumber, lemon and mint has been a godsend. It has sugar, but water left overnight with lemon, mint and watermelon is also amazing.

>>9552143
Try to get more lean protein to keep the hunger away and get some blood sugar from fruit. It sounds like you're hypoglycemic.

>>9552003
If you are that fat and you actually start eating healthy and exercising it falls off faster than 1lb per week. This is backed by the laws of physics. She's somehow not doing enough.

>>9552161
The joys of low BP. Two doctors and a battery of blood tests and no one can find why my blood pressure is low and I'm constantly tired.

Fruits are my thing. I've cut down because of the calorie counting, but I used to have at least one serving per (as in along with my) meal- blueberries in the morning, a pear or orange with lunch, and melons or lychee after dinner, with a big thing of tangerines in the fridge for snacks. Now I'm at two servings with blueberries in breakfast and a pear or an orange after lunch.

Even back before cutting calories, however, I was constantly tired. I was worried I might be pre diabetic because how could I possibly still have hypoglycemia after all that fruit? But at least the tests came back negative. Negative for lupus which was my other worry. The weird thing? I'd get massive sugar crashes from things like those cold pressed fruit juices. Like seriously needing to lie down because I could feel my heart slamming against my chest.

So yeah. Low blood pressure even without dieting, now with dieting it's like my body has officially declared jihad on me. Can't wait for this blasted heat to go away so I can walk everywhere again and eat when I'm hungry.

But I'm going to try doing what you said and maybe upping my protein intake. Instead of just having it for dinner I'm going to try and work in dome eggs in the morning and something into lunch. Thanks for the tip!

>>9551821
>>9552097
I'm 5'8" and 136lbs, two years ago I was 120lbs, and the change happened in the worst places. My belly has become squishy and my thighs gained most of the mass, yet my boobs are forever small. Everyone carries weight differently.

>>9552173
Did you ask your doctor about salt and water intake? As much as people are like "Eat less sodium because bloating, high blood pressure..." having MORE salt is one of the recommendations my doctor makes for people who suffer with low blood pressure as long as you don't have too much family history of heart problems or high blood pressure. I get drops in blood pressure, low enough that I've been admitted to hospital twice for fainting and taking ages to come around, and the specialist and GP I saw both recommended increasing my salt/water intake on hot days which is when it happened. If I am really struggling to drink my target (in summer usually 1500mL water and an extra 500-1000mL for every hour of exercise, because on hot days you can lose up to a litre exercising) I will make up the zero-cal sports drinks for the electrolytes. Salt also influences the way your body absorbs sugars, apparently, but idk if it will help that much with the crashes. Liquorice also puts blood pressure up, go for the teas rather than the sweets though.

What are some "healthy" meets I can plan with my comm? I'm tired of having high teas and picnics full of pastries, I'm trying to fit my body in to old school over here, not fit teacakes in to my mouth

>>9549004
>PLG
What is that?

>>9552429
Nature walk? Museum trip?

I'm 169cm and stuck at 60kg. I try to keep under 1200 calories a day and bike about 15km a day, but I just cannot seem to lose the last 8kg I gained from being very ill several years ago. It's all in my stomach and flanks. I look in the mirror and cry. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

>>9552437
When you reach a plateau you gotta change things up. Try a different kind of exercise or cut carb for a few weeks.

>>9551050
Anything in the water/pool. Gives you natural resistance, and won't reck your knees.

>>9551971
I literally wrote i haven't done much of anything yet. I'm adding things this month. I don't care if this takes a little longer if it sticks and i actually end up with good habits.

>>9552134
Well that did it I guess. I'm going to start by cutting out all non-naturally occurring sugars from my diet. No ice cream, cookies, cakes, sweets, nothing. Cold turkey. I cut out soda from my diet a long time ago which made me thin, but I somehow got fat again so I think I'll cut out all added sugar this time. If I can do one I can do the other, right? Easy peazy. No cheat days for sweets, no treats, absolutely nothing.

Wish me luck, t. fat fuck.

>inb4 not gonna make it
i'll fucking make it.

>>9552474
protip: Substitute stevia or another low/no glycemic index sugar and replace wheat flour with almond flour or coconut flour. Just means you are making your own stuff. I make myself sweets all the time and enjoy them over the course of several days rather than binging on whatever.

Also, if you're cutting it out of your diet, you will find that your body DOES NOT like real sugar and you can't stomach it. I had sugar at a tea party after 1 month of not eating any and I felt my blood sugar shoot through the roof. Yet baking with the above does not give my body that kind of response.

>>9552485
>substitute sugars
There's really no need.

>almond flour or coconut flour
That's just really expensive rich white people shit. The kind of rich white people with huge nice clean kitchens. You're not one of them are you? I'll make due with *nothing* instead of that.

Dropping some leddit resources for you guys

Good low calorie meals
https://www.reddit.com/r/1200isplenty/

General weight loss sub (check quick start guide and FAQ)
https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/

For a bit of motivation
https://www.reddit.com/r/fatlogic/

If you want to stay on the chins check out the /fat/ general on /fit/. They have some good resources and some decent people

>>9552492
OMG how dare you make suggestions. I know *waaay* more than you!

>>9552505
It's not about knowing more, it's about not filling a perceived void with substitute shit. If added sugar doesn't belong in a diet, it doesn't belong, period.

>>9549682
You went from granny face to cute just from weight loss! Congrats!

>>9552437
You're only doing cardio is the problem and only exercising half of your body when you bike, also 15km is bascially nothing on a bicycle. You need to change what cardio you do - try something that's more HIIT or interval training and has body weight stuff built into it, and focus on also improving your strength. I'd recommend: swimming with a goal of improving your lap times, Pop Pilates (won't burn a heap of calories but will help strength), Insanity, Darebee.

>>9551166
Situps are not going to do anything just for your tummy. Spot reduction/spot loss is a complete myth. You need to do cardio AND change your diet to get the flat stomach back, a bike is a good start but whole body stuff like swimming is better, jogging and sprints are also better as you are using more muscles compared to a bike which is generally just your legs so doesn't even really target your core muscles at all.

>>9551050
There are good modifiers for burpees and planks - one of the easiest is to have your hands elevated if you can't manage the press up component of a burpee or holding a plank without the knee support, because you can still practice the proper form with your core tight and straight and knees straight rather than altering the actual movement too much.

>>9551047
Completely change it up. If you mainly focus on cardio get in the weights room, if you only do free weights do some body weight sets, if you know you rest too much at the gym then force yourself to go for half an hour without stopping, if you generally try to push on through then dial it back and focus on technique. Also going on a keto/no-carb diet for a week or two has really helped some people I know but you can just gain it back eating all the carbs once you stop because you end up getting mad carb cravings, and really you need to be strict about your fat/protein/carb ratios as well.

>>9552492
There's no need. But there's no point in keeping yourself from enjoying things that you did every once in awhile. Sugar/glucose spikes insulin and is highly addictive and leads to all kinds of issues. Knowing that you can make something that you can enjoy without giving said thing up will make you less likely to just go for whatever because it's cheap and it's there. There's packages of cookies in my kitchen. Not touched them because I refuse to eat them because I know what it'll do to me. Instead, I make myself something in small batches here and there and eat it over a few days.

>really expensive rich white people shit
Okay so, $4 bag of almond flour, $5 bag of baking stevia as opposed to say $4 giant bag of doritos and $5 tub of ice cream. And my kitchen is a fucking mess. I'm white but I'm not rich. Rich enough to buy lolita and rich enough to change my diet so I can fit back into my shit again.

I suppose fresh veggies are too rich for you too? Might you prefer the canned and heavily preserved kind?

>>9552533
Fresh veggies are cheap from my local asian market. But yeah preparing that shit sucks so that's the problem for me.

>$4 bag of almond flour
It's $17 for a bag of almond flour where I live.

>>9552538
Go to a store that sells nuts in bulk and put them through a food processor.

>>9549682
Aw, congrats! You look fantastic. I was at my heaviest (hovering near 280lbs) in December, but I've been losing, so we're in the same boat. I'm still an obese fatty-chan, sob, but you've definitely inspired me to not give up. Can I ask if/where you plateaued on your loss? I'm about 58 pounds down now, and I'm starting to lose less, like a pound or so a week.

I've mostly made the same adjustments, when I started out, I just ate smaller portions and let my stomach be hungry until next mealtime, but I never really ate that much anyway. Also, I have always hated fast food, pizza, potatoes, etc. because of my sensitivities to certain food, which makes it even harder for me to continue cutting stuff out. I staved off the hunger with ice water+lemon and the occasional granola bar.
I haven't kicked sugar yet... I just can't find any substitutes that I like well enough and sweets are my guiltiest pleasure. I don't think I'll ever give them up totally, even if it means a little bit of extra work or a little extra flab, but damn I want to stop using sugar every time I want a cup of tea.

>TLDR
I lost weight but I'm still really fat so what's you gulls' favorite sugar substitute?

>>9552538
Ntayrt, but frozen vegetable mixes from the grocery store are good. You can take out a serving, add something like a little soy sauce, then either microwave it or cook it in a pan. They're not less healthy and most vegetables taste just fine that way.

>>9550128
>reversing calorie-counting
This is what i do! It really makes meal planning and sticking to healthy food options easy without me making it half way through the day thinking shit. I hit my calorie limit. Guess i wont eat the rest of the day. Also if i know im going out for icecream with the boyfriend or pizza with the girls i can just plan my other meals around it.

>Today i had scheduled to treat myself to a big helping of mashed potatoes with my chicken and cauliflower but the bf treated me to suprise boba tea so i ended up not getting my potatoes because i had my boba instead and didnt want to go over my calorie limit today.

Ill try to work in my mashed potatoes one day again next week!

>>9552143
5'0" 105 here!
I am around 1000 cals a day but I definitely had to work down. You may be going through withdrawals if you used to eat a ton of junk. It took me a while to conquer cravings for similar reasons. Finding healthy replacements to things you used to eat a lot helps. I replaced a lot of candy with nuts and fruits. It was hard in the beginning but eventually it became bearable and now I don't have cravings or shakes or anything.

seriously if you want to lose weight follow these easy steps. i used to be a fat fuck and i followed this system and it worked perfectly for me:

1. wait until you are on summer break or any sort of break that lets you take a month off of strenous work
2. anytime you feel like you are getting hungry, or feel like eating something, without even flinching stop what you are doing and chug exactly 1 entire bottle of water as fast as you possibly can.
3. the water fills your stomach and your hunger craving instantly goes away.
4. no matter what keep repeating this process, you will be going through a lot of water a day and peeing alot but you will not be hungry and your metabolism will fix itself after around 20-30 days. you will look very skinny and you will instantly rid yourself of your life long "fat problem". oh yeah you will be feeling very weak (not hungry, just weak) so every couple days have urself a thing of rice or one little tiny carb based meal so you can rebuild your energy for the next couple days.

this works because your body starts eating your fat. seriously after 20-30 days you will go from a fat fuck to literally skinny. I did this when i was in highschool during a summer break and everyone was amazed at how i went from being the fat kid all my life to slim and fit looking. I'm a boy btw, i don't know if this works for girls you guys might miss a period or not be able to have babies anymore or something.

pic related, me. after doing the water diet thing i started lifting a few years later

>>9552726
Why are you tweaking your own nipple?

>>9552742
because its funny?

now ask me why i'm choking a kid

>>9552726
You'd be better to do keto than what's essentially a starvation diet. At least you aren't going to potentially fuck things up with a lack of both macro and micronutrients if you do it right.

>>9552748
i'm perfectly healthy today. i don't think you are fucking up anything in your body by making it so your body has to eat fat to survive since you are cutting it off from food. thats literally the entire point of reserve fat.

pic related, what i used to look like before the diet. a 7th grade little fat kid

>>9552750

>>9552726
do you even cosplay or just come her to be annoying

>>9552750
No, it's more the fact that you could end up vitamin/mineral deficient if you are basically just living off water AND you'd also be using muscle, which isn't exactly a good thing. Your body doesn't just "eat fat" when it's starving even if you are fat.
There's better, less risky ways to lose weight than not eating at all.

>>9552752
It just looks like you went through puberty desu.

>>9552726
>what is water intoxication
>what is unhealthy weight loss
>what is water weight

And again, what is WATER INTOXICATION

>>9552471
Stop being so fat asap. You're gross.

>>9552752
you're literally 12 so

>>9552726
>>9552750
>>9552752

This just in! Local preteen goes through puberty and now has all the secrets to weight loss!
Doctors HATE him! More at 11:00!

>>9552492
You sound like one of the people that think millennials can't afford houses because avocado toast

>>9549682
You did good girl. I have no idea if losing 140 in 18 months is healthy but what matters is that you did it and you're happy now.

>>9549793
>Then again even when I was 130 lbs my boobs were still huge, so I may never fit into my dream dress unless I get a reduction, which I have been considering.

Don't do it, tailor your dream dress to fit your body at ideal weight. Also costs less.

>>9552532
>>9552532
>Situps are not going to do anything just for your tummy. Spot reduction/spot loss is a complete myth. You need to do cardio AND change your diet to get the flat stomach back
But what about when the stomach sticking out is caused by a lack of muscle tone, not by excess fat? I've been severely underweight, 16.5 BMI, and had a stomach that wasn't flat. When you have no muscle tone nothing holds it back.

I just don't buy this "weight loss for flat stomach" theory for women, it works for guys but most women don't naturally have a flat stomach and won't get one even at a low weight unless they work out. I wish I knew which exercises were best to do.

>>9552857
This. Always take information with a grain of salt unless it's backed up by links to at the very least one medical source.

Remember folks everyone's body works differently! Males also store and use fat differently than females!

>>9552752
My sides are in goddamn orbit, look at this preteen trying to be cool with what, a fake fucking cigarette in your mouth?
I am fucking dead holy shit, go back to playing Grand Theft Auto with your friends from school

>>9553257
>>9552857
>>9552857

i know i dont look it but im 24 years old

im just saying as a kid i stopped being fat by only drinking water for 30 days.

most people just stay fat.

>>9553265
أنت غبية

>>9552755
yeah i totally cosplay lupin the 3rd

>>9553270
cool google translate. i have arab parents but i cant read it and i only know how to say like 20 words.

anyway i'm done whoring, the only point i was trying to make is that doing a water only diet is super fast and super easy and u dont have to workout to stop being fat.

>>9553224
I'm not saying don't strengthen your core, just that you need a combination of exercises including the cardio - and it's more than just the front rectus muscle you need to work, your lower back and obliques are also important. It is also possible to carry a relatively high bodyfat percentage even underweight which IS diet and exercise related, and your lack of any idea about core exercises makes me think you were pretty much sedentary and therefore still had that highish body fat. Also if you were basically starving yourself at the time you were underweight and didn't get enough protein, that would also explain the belly. Check out pop pilates and Darebee, darebee has some workouts showing you which exercises target which core muscles and the whole website is geared towards accessible exercise.

>>9553276
Do you have your parents take these pictures?
>'take another one, I don't look cool enough'

>>9548875
>>9548875
In the last four months I've been doing Pilates and ballet-focused workouts. I really like Kait Coats on yt (some of her Pilates stuff is also on Amazon Prime) as well as Mari Windsor (you can find her stuff on yt pretty easily). I've lost at least twenty pounds, but the real results to me are just how good and toned my body looks now, especially my legs and abs. I finally lost the small lower belly pooch I had, and my cellulite is basically gone. For reference I wasn't that overwhelmingly fat before starting, just had stubborn problem areas that are no longer a problem for me. It's been great. Upping my protein intake definitely helped too.

>>9553282
Yes.

>>9553279
At a BMI that low, you're not going to be skinnyfat so much as having pretty much no fat *and* no muscle. Something like 18, yeah, but not 16.5. And no, I didn't have a pot belly because I was a starving African child whose belly was filled with air, might have had low-ish protein intake when I was dropping but I stayed below 17 for ages while eating at maintenance (not enough to gain but def not starving myself).

I'll check Darebee out though, I'm particularly curious because I've noticed my gut's sticking out more since summer started (I've been a healthy weight for a couple of years but I've been pretty much sedentary since college broke up, since I work from home and have no need to leave the house), even though my weight and body fat and other measurements are pretty much the same. I feel like my muscles are wasting away but I live in an awful area with no amenities and access to transport so it's difficult for me to do more than floor exercises.

Okay so do any of you have a normal fucking diet and exercise regimen? Anyone here eat a balanced diet where once in awhile you eat something you like or do a moderate amount of cardio with strength training?

>>9553224
stuff for your transverse and oblique abs will help more.

>>9553329
Yeah, both. My daily meals are balanced, high in protein with a lot of veggies. But if I go out to a restaurant I'll just eat whatever I want that night and not feel bad about it (max once or twice a week). I cook at home so I'm in control of portions, ingredients, etc. I exercise 4 - 5 times a week because I really enjoy it. Mostly Pilates (traditional, not blogilates/pop Pilates), long hikes, or yoga. I do cardio twice a week (running or cycling). I'm in good shape and my body feels great.

>>9553329
>where once in awhile you eat something you like
I wish there weren't this stigma of healthy food tasting bad. Many of my favorite foods are low in calories and high in vitamins (vegetables). So yes I have a normal diet while still being satisfied with my weight. Exercise regimen is minor and inconsistent, I enjoy walking and hiking and sometimes do situps and pushups when I feel like it. BMI, not looking to lose.

I'm here since I pretty much have the same issue as the above anon, thin but bloated belly. I don't think it's fat since it isn't very squishy, it's significantly firmer than fatty areas like boobs. I also look low-fat in general, my muscles are pretty well defined for a female despite being small and I'm bony. Not sure if it's because I eat too much, due to my aforementioned dietary preferences I consume a lot of fiber. I tried following a low-fiber diet once but that didn't really last long, there aren't many foods I like that are healthy but not fibrous and I don't want to eat gross junk food. Tried a low-FODMAP diet for maybe a month but that didn't seem to do anything, I didn't fully eliminate them though, just significantly reduced. Will try toning my core, I don't do much dedicated exercise (as in for the purpose of exercising, not just recreation) so maybe that would help.

>>9553211
I think staying 300 for 18 months would have been more unhealthy honestly.

>>9553329
>eat less (or more if looking to gain)
>go to the gym for 3 hours a week [optional]
Literally what is abnormal about this?

>>9553276
You're a bit dyel m8, stats?

>>9553329
me here but I just popped into the thread out of curiosity

I cook all my own food, get my 5 a day, whatever but I'm not low-carb or high-fat or anything faddy. I don't have a sweet tooth and I don't keep unhealthy snacks in the house so I don't get tempted by them. I don't feel like I'm missing out because I genuinely like vegetables, and I have desserts on special occasions like meets or visiting family. I never have sugary drinks unless I'm outside the house either (except sometimes coffee/cocoa with sugar), I mostly drink tea and water. Since what I cook is healthy I basically just manage my weight with portion control - if I notice I'm losing weight (stressful week, skipping meals, w/e) I consciously try to eat more, get more cavalier about snacks, put a bit of extra oil in my pasta, etc, whereas if I notice I'm gaining I'll make sure I stop eating when I'm full, try to cook in the minimum amount of oil possible, avoiding eating out, etc.

I don't calorie count (just avoid most sugar and things fatty enough to make me feel uncomfortable/nauseous), but I have the protein content of various foods memorised and watch my protein intake so I get above 50g/day (the adult womens' RI). I watch iron as well because I eat mostly vegetarian and was anaemic in HS.

Works for me. I've been skinny all my life but I would say my weight fluctuates quite a bit (I mostly hover around 53kg, 48-56kg at the most), partly because I don't exercise much. I used to stay fit by walking everywhere but like >>9553309 I end up getting really unfit when I'm home for the holidays because I don't need to walk to uni or do my own shopping. It's hard because I'm cheap but (other than walking) I only like adrenaline rush activities like ice skating and windsurfing that I can't afford. I'm trying to force myself to spend money on getting back into rock climbing because I really want to build my core+upper body strength.

sage for blog and all

>>9553404
tl;dr
Basically I eat what I want and don't suffer, but that's because I actually like healthy food and rarely/never crave junk food. Eating healthily most of the time means I'm slim enough that my weight isn't going to be affected by occasional indulgences like buying a favourite snack when it's on offer in a supermarket, so I never feel deprived or like I'm on a diet. I'm also one of those people who loses appetite/motivation when they're stressed instead of comfort eating, and I save/savor favourite foods instead of binge-eating them, which helps a ton. I have virtually no motivation to exercise though (not even aesthetics, lolitas look better skinnyfat than muscular) so I'm trying to work on that. My fitness motivation used to be "being able to run for the bus without look undignified and getting sweaty and out of breath", but I don't get public transport any more so I need a better motivator.

>>9553404
>windsurfer
Don't get many of those around. It's fun as hell though.

Also rock climbing is the bomb, if you have a climbing gym nearby they're bound to have a club.
Always really nice people, plus they probably do trips if you have any mountains nearby.

>>9552750
Your body eats muscle before it eats fat when it needs energy.

>>9549682
Wait, the image on the left isn't you at 300, is it? When I think 300 I think borderline obese but you look like a regular fat American on the left. Does this indicate that many of the people I know are that heavy, and allowing themselves to be that heavy? You look totally gorgeous now by the way, congrats.

>>9553403
>I think staying 300 for 18 months would have been more unhealthy honestly.

This is very true.

Does anyone else here have a very bony wrist? Sometimes I worry a bit that it looks freaky. I kind of wish it were less thin but I don't want the rest of me to be less thin.

Started using myfitnesspal and the calorie counting makes me feel so good. Also started doing meal preps for the first time for my work lunches, and it felt awesome. Pork chop, roasted pumpkin and cauliflower fried rice this week. Took about 3 hours because I had no idea what to do with the pumpkin and cauliflower but will probably get better with time

>>9553412
I used to live near a large lake and I loved windsurfing (and to a lesser degree, sailing and kayaking) as a kid, but it's like, 50 miles to the nearest place I can do watersports now and I don't even have a car. I miss it, but I don't miss doing it in winter, ha.

I know my university has some sort of watersports club but it's a huge time/money investment, they have a minibus to take people there but you have to pay for the full year upfront even if you only want to go to a few sessions, which would cost hundreds, and I'd have to commit to losing most of every Saturday all year for training. Not a smart plan when I'm going into my finals year.

There is a rock climbing place in my city, but it's relatively expensive and pretty far from my house without any direct public transport there (I'd have to get 2 buses sort of deal, which would also be expensive). I did climbing when I was younger too and was one of the best in the club (could have entered regionals) but, again, the wall was a long way from my house and I had to quit because my parents couldn't afford to pay for sessions and drive me there any more. I still regret it and really want to get back into it, but I feel dispirited when I try because my upper body strength is so bad now. Everything used to be really easy for me and I could climb anything without much effort, but now it's so difficult it barely seems fun. Like, I know the whole point of climbing is to build my upper body strength back up, but I can't help comparing myself to my former level and feeling crap.

>>9553415
It all depends on how you carry the weight. A quick Google showed me the average US woman weighs 166.2 lb.

>>9553424
Mine's the same anon, it's not freaky, it's pretty common.

>>9553413
As always it's not as simple as that. While starving you'd lose much more fat than muscle. But losing muscle is still not ideal.

Ideal for max muscle retention is obviously eating at a deficient while doing cardio/weights. As your body won't break down the muscles it's using.

>>9553415
Obesity in America is pretty normalized. Keep in mind that anon mentioned she is 5'9"-5'10" which is pretty tall for a girl.
300lbs at 5' and 5'10" look drastically different.

>>9553430
Ah, that's reassuring.

Fitness question for anyone who dances! I want to improve my dancing skills. Is there an area I should be focusing on during weight training? So far I have been giving my legs and core special attention. Or should I just concentrate on an overall strengthening/normal workout?

>>9553436
What kind of dance? Be specific.

>>9553437
Pole dancing!

>>9553437
Mostly idol shit, some k-pop

>>9553442
Isn't that more about timings and endurance than strength? It's not like you're doing lifts or anything and there are a lot of arm movements in sync rather than complex moves.

>>9553403
>eat less
Ntayrt but over half of these posts are things that I would never find time to and aren't about eating less.
As someone studying nutrition, it shocks and appalls me that people think losing weight is just as easy as the "eat less, exercise more" rhetoric.

>>9553427
Yeah I've been way resistant to join my local one because of the ridiculous price (literally twice the cost of my gym wtf).
I'd see if there's a club with the local uni, ours is about $150 a year and they provide everything, all ropes and helmets and harnesses (granted they are not comfy).
We're lucky enough to have an free to use outdoor wall in the middle of our city which brings down the cost a lot though.

Also getting back into things is really disheartening, because you spend all this time going over stuff you've already breezed through. Unfortunately there isn't really a quick fix for that, but you usually pick it up much quicker the second time around.

>>9553449
>people think losing weight is just as easy as the "eat less, exercise more" rhetoric
Is there more to it?

>>9553449
Is it not basically just caloric intake/expenditure? I've read studies about certain carbs, etc promoting fat retention but isn't that comparatively minor?

>>9553449
You can make it as complicated as you want.
God knows nutrition isn't simple, but at the end of the day you could be powercleaning twinkies and lose weight if you count your calories correctly.

Obviously you'd be getting shit macros and micros and it would be very unhealthy, but the thing most people don't understand is that it does actually work.

>>9553448

Yeah, so I've been doing cardio and stuff as well to improve my endurance. I was just wondering if weight training could be focused to help me become a better dancer too.

>>9553449
You may be studying nutrition but you're an idiot if you try and say CICO doesn't work. It's literally the laws of physics at work. Doesn't mean you can't fuck up your health if you only eat 1000 cals in junk each day, but you WILL lose weight if you burn more than 1000 cals a day despite your intake being crap.

>>9553211
>>9553403
18 months seems healthy as long as it's natural and not the result of anorexia/bulimia. And staying 300 for eighteen months isn't necessarily as unhealthy as losing 140 via EDs and other shit methods.
>>9553455
>>9553459
Really, a lot of it is your diet and exercise but it isn't everything. I used to think the same way, but there's so much to also take into account, such as an individual's metabolic rate, other heath disorders, genetics (yes, genetics), bone structure, etc.
Of course, most of that is fairly obvious, but it's things that these boards want to push aside like they don't exist and every fat person is just funneling food into their mouths. That happens, yeah. It's kind of distressing though that people are so quick to blame everything on the fat when it's seriously around 50/50 that there are underlying problems where the fat is the effect, not the cause.
Carbs also shouldn't promote fat retention unless you're shoveling them every single day in elevated quantities. And then, it's mostly the processed sugars in those things. The fat just kind of packs on in layers if you're shoveling sugars, making it much more difficult to lose.

>>9553471
>>9553464
Sorry for two long posts back to back but you'll for sure be skinnyfat if you do that. You'll still have more bodyfat too, particularly in your midsection. Eventually, your organs will shit out on you too, and you'll gain weight. Prolonged behavior like eating nothing but, as you said, 1000 calories of junk a day, will catch up with you. It may not be immediate, but no matter how much you exercise, your body knows what's up. Unless that metaphorical person changes habits, they're going to die at 30 of a heart attack, despite being at a normal-overweight range. Just because it doesn't show up on the outside doesn't mean that the person is healthy. A 100 pound person eating 1,200 calories in junk a day for a year is ultimately more visually appealing to most people, but they are really less internally healthy than someone 200 pounds eating 1,200 calories of balanced meals per day for a year.