/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9531669
Does anyone know how many items a smaller brand like Excentrique or Chantilly makes? Like per release?

Is there any difference in IW Lace Millefeuille Boleros apart from the lace used?

So jauce didn't work to get around SS bans on y!j. Any other recommendations? I tried to get japonica, buyee, and Zenmarket to try also and they all said no. I need these damn socks to finish a set and can't find them anywhere else

>>9531872
Use a personal SS? Idk if chibi tenshi is still doing her thing

So does anyone else do a lolita spring cleaning of sorts? I just cleared out my closet of all my winter items to put in storage (mainly because I'm moving soon) and it's made my closet so much easier to look through that I'm thinking of doing it every fall and spring for the season change.

>>9531828
AFAIK they're all made of the same stretch jersey but there might be difference in the exact shade of some colours, e.g. burgundy between different boleros as well.

>>9531919
I don't really bother because I only have two or three winter-specific items (one capelet, two pairs of earmuffs and a coat). Everything else gets used year-round, even velvet and berets if it's not too hot.

>>9531828
AFAIK they're all made of the same stretch jersey but there might be difference in the exact shade of some colours, e.g. burgundy between different boleros as well.

>>9531919
I don't really bother because I only have two or three winter-specific items (one capelet, two pairs of earmuffs and a coat). Everything else gets used year-round, even velvet and berets if it's not too hot.

>>9530746
My wardrobe has two sides, so I put all the oldschool items on one side and all the newschool items on the other. I then organise it Outerwear->Blouses->Dresses->Skirts, with each category separated by colour as well.

>>9531924
Yeah I wasnt sure if the cut was slightly different between years

>>9531927
Easiest way to look that up would be to go to lolibrary or second-hand sites and check if the measurements are different or something, but it's hard because IW have always done those in different sizes and have some deliberately different cuts (e.g. the short-sleeved, half-sleeved and princess sleeved versions).

Whats mana's best work?

>>9531924
>velvet and berets if it's not too hot
I have quite a few snow prints that I prefer to wear when we actually have snow and my velvets are way too hot. I did keep my berets out, but I don't find them especially warm.
But I find myself sticking to bright colors in the summer like pastels and bright red/blue and sailor outfits because it just feels so much fun to wear summer outfits in summer. I've noticed I don't touch my fall colors until fall even though some of them are my favorite pieces in my wardrobe. Maybe it's why I love winter so much? Wearing them in summer just makes it more sad for me that it's not winter.

>>9531937
His autobiography

>>9531938
Ah, I love Sugar Dream Dome and some other wintry prints but I look horrible in cool colours like ice blue and silver so I don't own anything I absolutely cannot wear in summer. I've owned Christmas-specific prints before but they were all made of materials like velveteen that could crease if folded for storage, so I had to keep them hanging year-round.

I pretty much just box up my lolita gloves, scarves and woolly hats along with my normie winter accessories, and don't bother putting away anything else. I keep my coat around in case we have a spate of horrible weather and I need it, and I never felt like there was any point putting my capelet into storage by itself.

>>9531872
google kairai ss
cheaper than tenshi I think?

>>9531881
Even if she is, shoppers with too much feedback can get rejected. I had that issue trying to use tokyopirates to get around a seller with a SS ban before she stopped

Does anyone have any pictures of the employees from US brand stores? I'm curious to see how they dress for work. Is it like high end retail where you have a uniform that you leave there, or do they coordinate themselves with their own wardrobes?

>>9531973
They get away with dressing pretty casually. At Harajuku Hearts they do casual Jgoth a lot, and at Baby they need to wear Baby or Aaup but they sometimes will wear something more punk or won't wear a petti or headwear or matching shoes.

>>9531973
The couple of times I've been at the Baby store in San Fran, they were honestly dressed super ita

>>9531939
that but also music wise :\

>>9531973
The SF Baby store employees have to wear Baby, it's their own wardrobe and they don't get a discount tho. I'm there p regularly, and they seem to be put-together.

AP SF and BTSSB NY, on the other hand, are staffed by people who don't even try to wear lolita or jfash. It's baffling how boring they look.

>>9532035
>they don't get a discount tho
That's pretty shitty, since I know the Japanese store staff get pretty hefty discounts (or at least did a few years ago).

>>9531955
I agree, sax and silver doesn't flatter my skin tone either, but I make do anyway because I like the dresses too much. I have the sax version of SDD, but I probably should look for the navy version instead. I'm also putting away my fall dresses, basically all my dark jewel tone dresses. I love them, but if I wore them over my summer dresses, I'd probably never wear the summer dresses I do have.

>>9531700
the most I've ever seen was like 8 for Excentrique. They list how many of and item is left on the online store.

>>9531872
Try Momoirokumasan

>>9531984
>>9532026
>>9532035
I imagine it must be awful to wear lolita during shipment, so I can excuse them for dressing ita. But man, it sure is a dream of mine to work there. Even if you don't get a discount

>>9531924
Regarding that wardrobe question, I like both sweet and gothic, so one is sweet and dedicated to anything pastel or too colorful to fit into a very dark themed closet.

>>9532035
I guess the difference between BtSSB SF and AP SF and BtSSB NY is that AP also has it's Harajuku Hearts side and BtSSB is ran by the people who run Tokyo Rebel, if I recall. When you stock both lolita fashion and other tokyo street fashions, I don't think it's really breaking the mood to not be in lolita. I always see staff in BtSSB NY videos wearing lolita, so that's confusing to me.
>>9532044
I wonder if it has anything to do with all the shipments and taxes. Lolita is Japan just seems extremely cheaper overall, especially secondhand.

>>9532092
I wouldn't dream about it if I were you. It might feel ideal but it basically combines working retail and all the bullshit that comes with it, with the bullshit you have to put up with in lolita.
I recall there were posts by employees (or anons that claimed to be) about people waltzing into the store and complaining about it being a store "for pedophiles", and another instance when a lady complained when the clothes didn't fit her little girl (because surprise, the clothes aren't meant to fit little girls at all). Because it's all anon you can't know for sure whether these anecdotes were true but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they were.

>>9531919

I thought that was why the egl wardrobe post was so popular. Girls used the theme to clear out their wardrobes, and the sales comm gets a boost from all the dresses they no longer want.

Nowadays the wardrobe post is more about showing off how much you own, and it's gotten to where some girls do it in the middle of the year. The wardrobe post used to be done in Jan as it's the beginning of a new year and the traditional time to review and reorganise.

>>9532128
I feel like wardrobe posts have always served a number of purposes. Personally I use them to take stock of what I have, what I need, and what doesn't fit in with the rest. I feel bad for admitting it, but I do use it to brag a little because I'm proud of my wardrobe, and to find people who have a similar sense of style.

Posting in the middle of the year is silly though.

>>9531919
Nah, I konmari'd my whole wardrobe recently though. I'm usually pretty good about getting out items to sell if they aren't being worn.

>>9532092
i daydream about being a cute shopgirl sometimes but then i remember that the employees are the ones setting up all of the fun events and have to worry more about running them than participating in them. plus, retail hell. in the end it's just a dream, and i'd rather waltz in and buy their products instead.

>>9531872
I feel like I missed something, do the standard shopping services not buy from Y!J auctions anymore? Or did you just come across a seller that won't sell to one?

>>9532128
>>9532211
I didn't really mean for cleaning out to sell. I meant more for ease of use.

>>9532035
>BTSSB NY, on the other hand, are staffed by people who don't even try to wear lolita or jfash.
every time i have been in, the shop ladies have either been in full lolita or Sexpot Revenge. but i have not visited in a year. when were you there?

>>9532044
Actually the AP stuff should get a pretty hefty discount aswell. Was told that by a staff member from Paris. As long as they dress head to toe ap it doesn't matter though from which collection their stuff is.

>>9531872
You can try lunasdeliveryservice on insta
Small but very very lovely

>>9532246
Some sellers won't sell to shopping services, correct. It was discussed in the previous thread, but there's a number of reasons for it (mostly that it's a hassle and the sellers don't want to risk trouble).

>>9532219

>>9532268
Not hugely - I can wear most of my lolita items year-round, just with less or more layers. Summer does get a bit hot but not for that long, I feel the cold more than the heat and frills are excellent for hiding extra thermals etc under.

>>9532284
At New Years

did wunderwelt stop offering SAL?

>>9532075
>They list how many of and item is left on the online store.
Where?

This is ugly as hell

>>9532689
This looks like a brolita tbqh

>>9532689
Perfect ita shirt

Since when does Buyee disallow bidding on closetchild stuff due to low ratings?! I just binned a dress the other day!! Im about to mcfreaking lose my mind!!!!

>>9532689
It's a shame, some of their other shirts are cute in that bitchy menhera way. But the artist for this one... bleah

>>9532689
Is this a collab with AP?

>>9532774
i mean even AP has made some questionable choices but even they're not that bad
....Right?

>>9532689
>>9532770
>>9532801
Isn't it possible that this is just a reference to blind brandwhoring? I mean, I have met some of those girls irl. They are not commonplace at all, but they do exist.

>>9532805
And how do you explain the princess bubblegum crown, tattoos and man-face?

I think the 'bitchy lolita' meme only works if the lolita looks flawless otherwise. Like that one recent picture with a really cute lolita in a messy messy room.

>>9532689
The shirt itself is tacky and the art is ugly imo, but "Angelic Petty" made me laugh

I've been falling out of touch with the lolita community recently. The Facebook groups all seem quite dead time, cgl holds no appeal and the youtubers I all enjoyed barely post and have been replaced by ones who post these boring informational or tag videos. I enjoy blog posts somewhat though. Does anyone feel the same way as I do? How do you stop this?
I still want to wear the fashion but feel bored by it and the community.

>>9532833
I've always felt disconnected with the community, especially online. I just read magazine translations, sometimes read blog posts, and wear the clothes.

>>9532833
Then just wear the fashion. I come to cgl just for new releases and the image dumps, but I sure as hell don't consider it any sort of socialization or community.

>>9532833
Follow the brands on Twitter and post coordinates tagging the brand. Sometimes they'll retweet you and I've had Enchantic Enchantilly say thank you directly for buying one of their bags and tweeting about it.
Also try to contribute to the community. I find that helps inspire me as well. Save new release information since the lolibrary function to add new items isn't up yet. Once it comes back up, add them to the database. Or post scans or translations of newer media. Or write reviews of newer pieces you own. I do hate the Facebook community we have going, I wish there was a better outlet.

>>9532846
I feel like without the community aspect I lose interest in wearing it. I don't know why.

>>9532898
Maybe do something different with a community then

secrets up

>>9532926
Feel bad for the girl who's in the picture of that last secret. What a shit thing to do to post her and say you feel bad about seeing her pics tagged with ddlg stuff.

>>9532941
hell, even admitting to being a part of the community that endorses that...

>>9532926
Do people still give a shit about secrets?

>>9532941
shes on my facebook and posted about it and I think she's taken finding out about it hard. I don't know if the secret poster was in the wrong or not but I feel bad for her.

>>9532973
Summerfags and newfags do, there haven't been any good ones in like a year

>>9532926
They've been up since Friday night where have you been

>>9532833
Generate your own content. Start a blog and write some essays, submit to that new lolita e-zine, make art, get a pen-pal.

And if the community doesn't do it for you anymore, then don't worry about it. Japanese lolitas don't have "comms" like we do in the West, they just enjoy their clothes.

>>9532983
They were definitely in the wrong to post the photo and basically expose this to everyone. The girl isn't associated with the kink and could have gone on without ever knowing.

Is the Melody Doll OP rare to find?

>>9533110
this.

when you reach the point that consuming content no longer satisfies you, the next step is to produce content. this is part of a general social maturation process, applicable to all aspects of life even beyond hobbies.

This was just posted in Rufflechat.
Tl;dr Truly Darling fucked up an alteration real bad and the girl is now wailing on Rufflechat. People show up whiteknighting this mess.

>>9533216
This whole thing is hilarious

>>9533217
Maybe it'll fit better once you do more bicep curls and become a bodybuilder kek

>>9533216
>>9533217
>>9533218
What would compel someone to do this?

>>9533220
I can't believe that people are still whiteknighting the seamstress at this point. They'd eat any bullshit and still say that it tastes good.

>>9533223
You misunderstand. I'm asking what would compel the seamstress to do this.

>>9533224
Apparently she MASSIVELY misunderstood what the dress owner wanted. Dress owner wanted the armscye (part where sleeve attaches to dress body) widened, seamstress thought she meant WHOLE SLEEVE widened.

Seamstress has appeared to "defend" herself by linking to her work, problem is that her work honestly looks like shit. Also what kind of boutique doesn't even have a mannequin/dressform to display your work on? You can literally get them off of amazon for $35.

Dis getting good.

>>9533224
Yep I got that part, just adding on that I feel that the people whiteknigting her are even more ridiculous.

>>9533236
So many edgy idiots

>>9533216
Both of them are fucking walnuts:
OP:
>Sent measurements and called them bicep not arm scythe
>Sent image where collar on meta dress is as large as what ended up happening but added as an aside that her photoshop was too big
>Poor descriptions of the work she wanted done in general.

TD:
>Didn't recheck "bicep" measurement when it is a huge size
>Sloppy seam and collar work and literally no excuse for those jacked as fuck stitches or scallops
>Didn't check before replacing lace on bicep.

Also free bingo space for Wonderfuck sticking her nose in everything ever. Hey at least this time it's not her whining about how everyone thinks her shit coords are shit because she black.

>>9533236
so why doesn't she post screenshots? seriously if she's worried her work is being ~defamed~ then post screenshots of this conversation where this was all agreed to.

>>9533245
Red is a fucking bitch.

>>9533261

>>9533261
>>9533262
For someone who doesn't even have a horse in this race, she sure is vehement that it's all OP's fault for not adulting properly. Wow.

>>9533255
>fucking walnuts
kek'd

I've seen TD's work in person and it's generally quite good (have a few that were altered, myself) so I'm wondering what happened here

Just in general like ???

OP definitely did the world shittiest job of communicating what she wanted and contradicted herself in the order a couple times eg discrepancies between mock-ups and references, vague language

but

TD was sloppier than Ive ever seen her on the AP piece and could have communicated better by asking for additional measurements like collar width rather than go based on a photo

I dont even know what Id do if that were my OP

>>9533261
Maybe she feels offended that OP is complaining about the alteration that could fit her bicep kek

>>9533255
Agreed, after reading more of the comments both of them sound like they didn't use their heads. The customer fucked up her wording, the shop didn't bother to clarify and also seemed to communicate poorly as well as turned out some seriously sloppy work. I think if TDB wants to appear on the high ground here - to save face, not lose customers, and further stop the foot in their mouth - they should just give this girl a full refund and an apology and be done with it. This already isn't gonna end well for them, they already will be losing some sort of business. After really looking at the shoddy alterations that have been pointed out I'm not sure if I trust them with alterations I want done, in spite of the good reviews I've seen previously.

>>9533167
Wtf is this ugly shit? Bad replica attempts?

>>9533275
Agreed. TDB is the only one that will lose here. OP might lose some face but with the way TDB is handling this I would never get anything altered by them moving forward

Top comment is OP, girl really has her titties in a twist.
Also black is still being a bitch.
This thread is endless entertainment.

>>9533275
desu it sounds like the customer may even be ESL, which is all the more reason for the seamstress to clarify what she wanted. I would expect a professional to be able to spot red flags in requests like that, but she didn't bother to clarify and just sounds like she was shady with communication all around. I feel for OP, that sucks to have something messed up like that, even if she did mess up herself, but the seamstress just should have known better, IMO.

>>9533276
I have no clue. I was more confused that they're both defective but one is twice as much as the other? They didn't have any brand info or anything.

>>9532045
What is "sax" color? This is the third time ive seen this. I tried looking it up but I dont think its right. Is sax a type of blue? Thank you or anyone for help.

>>9533295
Sax blue, yes. Short for saxon.

>>9533295
Sax stands for saxon blue. It is a particular shade of blue but most JP brands throw it out for various shades of lighter blue

>>9533295
It's short for "saxon blue", which is a specific shade but brands use it to mean any sort of light blue colorway.

>>9533295
Like a light baby blue. It's very popular in sweet lolita
Pic Related

>>9533303
Every time I see something like this I think of the saying "the higher the hair, the closer to god" from the beehive days but now it's "the bigger the poof, the closer to Mana"

>>9532689
The lolita illustrated looks so fucking broad, I thought it was a brolita pride shirt at first.

>>9533307
>"the bigger the poof, the closer to Mana"


That is amazing and should be our motto.

>>9533312
And interchangeable with any designer/model you wish.

>>9533307
Damn right. Lolita's with little poof look so sad

>>9533312
I've always used "the higher the platforms the closer to mana" personally. But I'm a chunky show fan girl.

>>9533334
Well Mana was more about the crazy platforms than poof.

>>9533216
All of these etsy & "cosplay" people need to show proof of schooling. A weekend class or something. They dont learn their crafts. They just dont want to get real jobs. Looking at you locshop and cupcakes&couture.
Lolita is expensive and intricate. Go to a real tailor. A real tailor would ask questions and be cheaper. I havent altered lolita but my dry cleaner is great. Less than 12 dollars, a few days and my jeans look new.
>>9533236
I would sue for two new dresses. She tried to steal her lace. I had this gappen at an auto mechnic.
>>9533245
The girl at the bottom doesnt know what she is talking about. She doesnt know the definition of the words shes using. You dont rip up a masterpiece and recreate it with cheap lace. And then keep the good lace.

>>9533261
I disagree with red. Op got them to send her lace back after they wanted her to pay for it! She discussed with them first, they obvs had an attitude. Op was nice enough to let us know what happened. If the people that are talking now wouldve complained maybe op dresses wouldnt have been mangled.
>>9533262
So red only hears what she wants. No one is accountable in her world.
>>9533271
Oh she is friends with the mangler. Wants to be included in the next fashion show.
>>9533289
Red(now black) needs to pick up a dictionary.

>>9533312
>>"the bigger the poof, the closer to Mana"

I should be, "the bigger the poof, the further from penis."

>>9533292
That's a shitty thing to assume just because she's Chinese. Singaporeans speak English as their first language. She just wasn't familiar with the sewing terminology and the seamstress could have clarified.

>>9533138
Nah, one got sold recently on lacemarket. I presume you mean the long sleeve OP, it only came in long sleeve and short sleeve (any JSK you see is likely the bloodline replica). The issue is that the fabric from original Melody Doll pills really, really easily so it's hard to find them in good condition.

>>9533385
*bodyline replica, derp

>>9531828
I have three millefeuille boleros from different years and I can definitely say that the oldest one feels the nicest. It feels slightly thicker and a bit less stretchy. The other two are both really thin, and the cream one is really transparent if I wear anything even slightly darker under it. If you're going for quality, I'd personally suggest trying to find an older one.

>>9533376
I say that because of her awkward typing style and syntax and repeated occurances of typos, not because she's Chinese. Anyone who types like that could be ESL and from any other country.

>>9533262
>mod gives info on PayPal ToS to aid understanding
>asks one question about item
>"MODS SHOULD BE IMPARTIAL WHAT ARE YOU DOING TAKING SIDES?!"

The TD white-knights are really not doing themselves any favours. OP could have been more clear about the widening but it's obvious TD should have asked more questions for clarification, their turn around time was abysmal and even their pictures of the finished product weren't clear. People can't excuse shoddy workmanship even if they think OP is at fault for measurement problems.

>>9533270
>OP definitely did the world shittiest job of communicating what she wanted
I think she was clear on the collar, she gave examples of the type and size of collar she wanted and got the XL version crafted while riding a horse version. TD should have used her brain with the measurement, why would anyone want a full bingo wing sleeve?

>>9533417
Maybe she thought that OP was the size of >>9533271 and needed bingo sleeves to fit her bingo wings

I bought a dress in Lacemarket from a seller with very low feedback. The payment was done a week ago and she has not answered anything. I can she she has not even read the messages I have sent her.
How long should I wait before starting a PP claim?

>>9533417
Some people's arms are actually that big. And like, yes they could have looked at their Facebook picture and seen that their arms were more petite, but there was no way for TD to know that the customer wasn't using the correct terminology. Maybe they thought huge sleeves were cute?

>>9533428
Check the maximum length for a paypal claim, place one about a week before the limit if she doesn't respond. Message her every single day until then.

>>9533451
Maximum time for a paypal claim is like 6 months...

>>9533110
They do have comms

>>9533216
I didn't know we could post reviews in rufflechat

>>9533465
I've never filed one before so I was giving generic advice, maybe don't listen to me.

>>9533440
They should have just clarified. Also replacing the lace and keeping it without even asking the customer is really inexcusable. $300 for that mess is such a rip off.

>>9533337
Is he dead?

>>9532028
Moi dix Mois: Nocturnal opera
for Malice Mizer, literally everything

>>9533487
yes, last year

>>9533275
>the shop didn't bother to clarify
This absolutely kills me about the whole exchange. The customer is not a seamstress or tailor, that's why she is hiring a seamstress to alter her garment.

The customer was not clear, it's true, but if you are marketing yourself as a custom boutique catering to people who spend hundreds of dollars per garment (and are willing to spend hundreds more having them altered) it seems like it'd be reasonable to expect you to have your shit together enough to ask for clarification when needed. I'm surprised this boutique doesn't provide their customers with diagrams of dresses to mark off specifically where they want altered.

>>9533289
>>9533261
>>9533262
This girl has clearly been taking White Knight 101 at her local community college.

>>9533412
This also irritated me. Mods are people, too. If she had a question about the item because she was considering using that service, or because she was considering buying that dress and wanted to know if AP has changed their ways of sewing in zips, that's perfectly valid? She wasn't trying to "shitsling with the commoners" like one person put it. She didn't attack either side. She asked for clarification on a point of the review. FFS, that's not a violation of impartiality in the least.

>>9533465
The claim limit is until December.
Really pissed off because I really want the dress.

>>9533498

>>9533428
>>9533524

What do their terms of sales say? I know some sellers have said on cgl before that they clearly state they take one or two weeks to ship because they work and can't just be at the post office any day the buyer wants, so if you bought from someone with those terms of sale, at least wait until those 1-2 weeks are up.

You can also google her pp address, her username or other things and see if you can locate her fb, blog, someone else who had contact with her. If she's more active on another blog you can politely drop an "excuse me, about that item I bought" and maybe get a response that way.

If both of the above fail, I'd give it another week then file a pp claim. Then, **wait a few days** to see if she responds, if she does, negotiate when she should ship (absolutely do not close the pp claim until you have a working tracking number if you reach this point. You cannot reopen a claim once you close it), then take it from there. If she doesn't respond after a few days, paypal will find in your favour. After that, leave bad feedback and mention that seller is unresponsive.

If you hit the point where you need to leave bad feedback because it's been a month since the sale, you've filed your claim and she still hasn't responded, be polite. Note that you're not sure what happened to the seller and you wish her well, and that the bad feedback is just to warn other buyers of potential problems. You never really know if the seller just got into an accident and was hospitalised so they can't read your messages or ship your dress, so don't be some raging war bitch, just politely say it's a mystery, other buyers beware.

Sorry for the long post. Hope it helps.

>>9533545

>>9533552
Very useful. Thanks a lot

>>9533421
OP said she had them do alterations before and have seen measurements that would not imply she had gigantic arms.

>>9533588
They probably thought she was a whale and it's rude to ask customers if they're really that big, basically calling your customer fat

>tfw waking up to the postman asking me for 24,35€ of customs fees for 25€ shoes
Fucking thieves. I never ever had any problem (even being in Europe) with customs while ordering from ebay before. Fuck that shit i'm so mad. They can tax that too now?
>tfw notice they didnt mark anything as gift
Why.jpg

Is anyone able to ID this dress? I know it's by Meta, that's all. I can't find it on Lolibrary and anything under the name 'Tartan Check' comes up with different dresses.

I want to check the measurements and also the colours under a different light.

>>9532774
a collab? with the famous angelic PETTY? sugoiii desu ne

>>9533620
Dutchie? or other country? being a Eurofag sucks anyway.

>>9533596
well, you obviously shouldn't ask customers if they're fat, but you could always ask if they measured correctly and on the correct spot.

I often get odd measurements when doing commissions, so when I'm questioning that measurement, I just ask if they can re-measure and are doing it on the correct location.

also, if you think having giant arms with a body that fits AP is logical,that would be really weird.

>>9533338
"Hello, yes, judge, she stole my lace pls give me $6000 for pain and suffering"
God damn I'd kill to see lolita civil cases play out on Judge Judy

>>9533298
>>9533299
>>9533302
Thank you!
>>9533303
I love the browns in this coord!

>>9533741
>two new dresses
>$6000
What fuckin dresses are you shopping for, anon?

Anyway NAYRT but I do actually agree. Customer girl could absolutely take the boutique/seamstress to small claims court and possibly get a win mostly due to fuck-ups on a lot of fronts from the business.

>>9533751
Not $6000 for the dresses but for the pain of having burando ruined.

Customer could probably win just for the fact seamstresses tried to make her pay for a second set of alterations to fix their mistake, good customer service would've been to just fix the dresses for free and cut your losses and be done

I would really like to get a nice camera to take outfit pictures with, do any of you have a recommendation?
It doesn't have to be anything too fancy, I'd just like to be able to take photos with the kind of quality that for example Fanny Rosie has.
As you can tell I don't have much of a clue about cameras, just thought that it might be better to ask here than on /p/ in case any of you have a personal favorite or something! Thank you!

Hey so this isn't the kind of questions you usually see here but...anyways
I'm a college student and I'm sugaring part time to get some extra money. Day to Day I wear Lolita or other kinds of kawaii fashions,but for dates with sugar daddies I wear the "luxurious Instagram famous chick" kind of clothing. It's becoming a hassle to keep two separate wardrobes with such opposite styles. How would you think potential sugar daddies would react to the profile of a sugar baby that dresses in what many people think is "children clothing"??

>>9533780
Don't do it. You're going to make us all look bad and people on that website will associate lolita with fetish culture or will assume it's actually related to the book. Sage in case this is bait.

>>9533741--og post'er
I was thinking " the peoples court". And with the judge being hispanic(or part) she would laugh at first and then remember communion/martha washington /quincenira(sp)/prom/wedding/
And get down to the business at hand. I can see getting the dresses reimbursed and half custom fees but she would have to give them the mangled dresses.
-i dont believe the dresses can be saved.

>>9533788
I'm not a seamstress, but wouldn't it have been incredibly hard to "let out" the sleeves in such a way that they reached such a massive girth?
Shouldn't taking them back in be a lot easier?

>>9533780
Hooker. So if you only go on dates I suggest you don't. If you are hooking then use lolita as a thumbnail and kindly explain that you are the only lolita hooker.

>>9533780
don't

>>9533791-reply
Unless they have the same expensive tools and material it wont look good. They had to fiddle with the cloth to add the weird lace. I just dont think its going to line up right. Its going to look odd. She should've used a real tailor. I think this can be a lesson to us all. This isnt cosplay. These dresses have resale value. A real tailor wouldve called her or email. You would know its been altered but only by flipping it to the inside.

>>9533552
Wow anon. She just answered and said she was in the hospital.
She will ship the item and add extra stuff.

>>9533642
I just checked hellolace in the wayback machine and it's not there either. This must be a super old piece

>>9533827
Thanks for looking anon! I think I might just risk it with the measurements and hope it fits. The shirring looks forgiving so here's hoping.

Still, I'd love to have a name to put to it. Someone in the Old School thread let me know it was Crown Label, but that's as far as I got.

>>9533648
Right next to it! Belgian. This shit is pure theft I swear. Makes me mad every time.

But hey, at least my mercari&fril order seems to have miraculously passed since i didn't got any letter from the customs.
It's a blessing from the lolita gods, it never happened before.
Now let's just hope they won't ask me to pay without even being noticed beforehand.

I'm almost tempted. It's just so hideous.
http://www.maidenclothing.net/script/detail.php?id=154070809001

>>9533836

>>9533826

At least it's solved. Congrats on getting your dress (soon)!

TWO SCOOPS

>>9533836
Its so ugly that its cute. I saw it last week and ive been debating to get it or not

>>9533216
>$159 alteration
Holy shit, this is why people need to get out of the lolita bubble every so often and do some research both locally and online. I had a vintage silk evening gown with full lining re-zippered, repaired, and altered for $50. There's no way a single fairly simply cut lolita dress should cost that much.
>(She forgot a zipper but that's a small thing)
What, why do people go back to shitty sellers just to be nice?

>>9533877
If you do get it please take pics!

>>9533836
Not as ugly as pic related https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d226822502

>>9533830
at least some luck!

>>9533940
>that filename
Well I mean if it's only 3k yen...

Oddest JSK name I've ever heard. "Shotgun Wedding JSK"

>>9533961
That's actually the name of an old indie brand.

>>9533946
If you buy it and post to CoF I will paypal you ten dollars just because

>>9533826
They all claim to be in the hospital. Nayrt.

>>9533836
I really want this but im a little scared about the measurments.
>Size F width of a garment: about 48 cm, dress length: about 80 cm, shoulder width: about 38 cm, sleeve length: about 62 cm
So im assuming 48 is the bust width flat measurement? So a max of 96? Because im a 96cm bust.

Has anyone ever lost a bloodbath for a main piece and have the rest of your cart process? I had to cancel an AP order because while I was checking out, my main piece and headbow in my cart went out of stock, but the socks still processed.

Why does it work that way, shouldn't it just halt your whole cart? Nobody wants to pay shipping and Tenso fees for a pair of socks that you didn't get the dress for.

>>9533980
Scammers would claim that,but good people also sometimes actually have to go to the hospital.

>>9533967
Cornet used to be Shotgun Wedding.

There's this fucking annoying girl in my Texas comm. She's loud and obnoxious, and no one likes her. When she notices that someone doesn't like her (but doesn't quite hate her yet), she gets overfamiliar and touchyfeely with them in an attempt to strong-arm them into liking her. She tries to be a leader, but no one wants to follow. She's a living embodiment of "fake it 'til you make it" except that she's not making it, and her fakeness is blatantly obvious to everyone. She's seriously botching all her social connections, and no one wants to be around her. I have a high tolerance for socially inept behavior, but it's wearing thin. So, so thin. I've been standoffishly polite and curt, but she just doesn't take the fucking hint and will not leave me alone. When other girls get exasperated with her, they look to me for help -- as if I'm her fucking handler. Can't kick her out since she hasn't done anything besides being an annoying twat.

Sage for blog rant.

I've truly seen a new age.

>>9534140
I've actually had a trip to the hospital delay shipment for something I sold twice. Scammers say it, yes, but it also really does happen to people.

>>9534166
Even from the thumbnail they look like the shittiest of replicas

>>9533880
Agreed so much. With $159 for alteration plus the already expensive brand cost of im assuming around $200, just buy a fucking dress that fits, or get a custom made.

>>9534166
Gives a new meaning to are you dressed for Halloween.

>>9534170
Yeah but random hospital stays are one or two days at most usually

>>9534186
You could spend the $159 on a gym membership and a coach to lose the weight instead. Really makes you think.

>>9534120
AP USA? AP Japan returns you back to the cart screen if you lose anything, though I have had it screw up and charge me, but not actually have the items in my history so I had to ask for a refund as they didn't have a dress for me (it sold out).

>>9534166
Holy Lantern has finally achieved it's true destiny as being Halloween costume trash.

>>9533780
Please don't, it's not that much of a hassle to keep some normie clothes around.

>>9533780
My advice is to cease existing.

>>9534386

>>9534166
the funniest thing is they're short skirt dresses

>>9533786
>>9533792
>>9533806
>>9534371
>>9534386

Is this person insane? No one is going to pay that much for brand jewelry second hand let alone AH.

>>9534227
Not everyone has the time for that, maybe she just wants to stay fat.

>>9534227
>>9534450
The girl isn't even that big. The dress fit her even before the alteration, she just wanted larger armholes (by 1") for more comfort, the dress fit fine at her bicep.

Pic related, pre alteration

>>9534454
dropped pic

>>9532988
why would there be people who only check secrets during summer? secrets are weekly so casuals too distracted by school to prematurely post to cgl wouldn't really have a problem keeping up with secrets.

anyway, secrets are fun and colorfully connect lolitas all over the world. they're a big part of the general culture for me, as their a way to document how people feel about new releases, trends within the fashion, certain rules, certain people...
but that's just me looking at it from a historian perspective, taking the good with the bad.

>>9534457
Because every year summerfags flood onto CGL and the lolita community in general and try to act like they're "part of the cool kids"

TD responds to the screw-up.

>>9533774
I use a digital camera that has the capability to save in RAW format, just because cameras like it produce much better image quality in general, and also have more built-in options and settings to tweak for your photos.
You can probably get one for cheap secondhand. like certain Nikon coolpix versions for example. cheaper than a DSLR but very good quality for a digital cam. I love Nikon

>you may also need a tripod and a remote, so look for cameras that can be mounted as well as programmed to a remote

>>9534485
>girls who otherwise wouldn't be able to wear their dream dresses

Yes, because you're the only person that can alter a lolita dress. FFS.

Also, they're literally not going to take any responsibility for their shoddy work? Those fucked up scallops on the collar?

>>9534440
She had it up as WTT for a while, and no one responded with a different color for trade. I'm p sure it wasn't even that much new

>>9534485
>>revamping several of our policies
What, like insisting payment be transferred as "Friends and Family" ? Paypal fees aren't even that bad, just work them into your prices if you're that concerned desu

>>9534166
I'm a shite person. I'd buy this to wear cons

>>9534508
IIRC, most AH necklaces are roughly $55- $60 new. So she's definitely attempting to rob the bank

>>9533788
>>9533807
>stop
the reply mechanism is extremely straightforward. labeling your posts is unnecessary.

>>9534497
I got my dream dress altered at a dry cleaner's across the street from where I live for 12 bucks and the craftsmanship was way better than hers. I love my Vietnamese auntie.

>>9534523
Right? I don't understand why TD charges so much to begin with yet alone how shitty their alteration quality is

>>9534526
"Let alone"
Anon pls

>>9534526
It's probably because she's a ~lolita tailor~ so she knows what would fit the aesthetic best, but honestly if you properly communicate what you want to the people doing the alterations it's not even an issue. Also the whole concept of doing alterations online is stupid.

>>9533216
I AM LIVING FOR THIS DRAMA. The girl who asked for alterations (oldfags will remember her as tsu on LJ) has been the biggest know it all and snob. I am glad she got her comeuppance because she is such a bitch.

>>9534540
deets?

>>9534540
She honestly sounds so cringe when she yells at people leaving good reviews. Who in their right minds would donate to her, especially when she's being so passive aggressive.

>>9534553
Wasn't she being sarcastic? That's how I read it. Anyone putting that much money down probably doesn't need donations

>>9533774
I recently got a nikon d3400 for $400 on sale. I think the photo quality is great for the price. It upped my outfit shot game significantly.

>>9534551
>>9534553
I am too lazy to dig through her posts and comments but back in the day she was insufferable. Her pretention and condescending attitude made me dislike her. In addition to that I bought a dress from her and it reeked of BO which made me dislike her more.
And for seagulls who care for where the "Jane Marple hates Lolita and does not consider themselves a Lolita brand" idea stems from: it is from her. She is the biggest snob when it has to do with Jane Marple and ETC.

Her old LJ posts for those who care: http://egl.livejournal.com/?poster=tsu_
Her tumblr: kaya-kueh

>>9534567
She was, I meant that the passive aggressiveness didn't help her one bit

>>9534540
Oh god, I recognize that avatar. I don't think I had any direct dealings with her but man that takes me back.

>>9534572
Damn her Tumblr is like frump central. You'd think she'd learn how to dress herself by now after being in the fashion for so long.

All those sack dresses just make her look like a frilly pillowcase. She shouldn't be too sad about the alterations, they'd still look equally unflattering on her.

>>9534587
yeah , she cant dress herself

>>9534533
What is autocorrect? I was typing a hurry jfc

>>9534572
>>9534587
This dress is screamminngg

>>9534440
Did you check past sales at all? Those necklaces regularly go for over $100.

>>9534301
AP Japan. I'm sure I had everything in my cart. Once the button to go forward was not moving though, and after another try it let me go through. I thought everything was still there though. It was a bloodbath, so I was rushing the whole time.

>>9534655
Screaminggg, stretching, there's not a seam in heaven that she can't break
(Sung in the tune of that high school musical song)

>>9534666
That's really strange, I've only had it boot me back to the cart. Which page were you on when it happened? The very last payment page or the confirm payment type page? It messed up for me on the last payment page pretending I was successful, but with no items in my history.

>>9534514
I've considered buying one from Taobao just to wear casually when I don't want to risk brand getting dirty/messed up in general.

Why is it so hard to find brand shoes in good condition secondhand? I recently decided I want to stop buying replica shoes, and first looked at new brand shoes. The ones I liked were sold out. I looked at y!j, mbok, Cc, WW, etc for a used pair and they are all scuffed and peeling

Do people hold on to brand shoes in good condition and sell them when they get shitty, or are brand shoes shit? If that's the case I guess I'll try to find nice indie brand shoes. I like Lief's they just are sold out of a lot of styles

>>9534673
Anon, that's a sack cut. Her boobs are under the placket. I agree it looks like shit but it doesn't look stretched out

>>9532689
The forearms are thicker than the neck.

>>9534160
Which comm in Texas? I think I might know who you're talking about

>>9534699
I feel like shoes and purses are things that are such a staple in your wardrobe that you only ever get rid of them once they're falling apart. No matter how many dresses you buy and sell, youre always gonna need a pair of shoes.

>>9534485
That's not even addressing the problem. I'd just give her a partial refund just to pacify her instead of risking a chargeback for all of that.
I was considering that circus dress from her but after seeing the shoddy scallops I'm not going anywhere near that shitshow.
>>9534701
I know, just being salty I guess.

>>9534699
Just pray someone got some in your size and found out they didn't fit. That's the only way I've gotten anything decent secondhand. It's not like you're going to stop needing shoes and lolita shoe styles seem fairly consistent so it's not like when you're getting secondhand normie burando and people switch out for the new season.

>>9534699
I'm trying to sell a few of mine that don't fit but no one seems interested. They seem rather hard to sell.

>>9534699
I suggest looking for Yosuke or Queen Bee shoes from dealers on Rakuten or Yahoo instead. You can get them new for less than brand prices, but they're better quality than replicas, and come in cuter styles.

Current QB designs aren't so hot (they've gone really sweet 2004ish in style), but you can find retailers that carry their back stock.

>>9534540
>>9534587
TD, making pot shots at your customer who gave you a legitimate bad review isn't helping you to look better

>>9534485
I've done better alterations. And I don't call myself a specialist. That works was fugly. I would be embarrassed to do that for free.

>>9533827
Not necessarily, heaps of stuff isn't on HL or Lolibrary

>>9534699
Because they're usually bad quality and thus get damaged easily

I saw this dress for sale and I really like it but looking up the measurements it says it's for a 66 cm bust? What does that even mean? Literally no one has a 66 cm bust, so how do I find out if I actually fit this piece.

https://lolibrary.org/items/atelier-pierrot-daletto-op

>>9533774
What's your budget, anon? I've found that Nikon cameras are good for beginners. I agree with >>9534489, you're definitely going to need a tripod and a remote shutter release, if you're taking your own photographs– the cameras built in delayed timer won't be of much use to you in that aspect. You may also want to look into Canon DSLRs. Just keep in mind Canon tends to be more expensive when it comes to buying lenses. Mirrorless cameras are the lighter and now compact version of DSLRs, however they're not as versatile as the latter. Good luck, anon!

>>9534673
Post this shit to the ita thread. This is beyond unfortunate

>>9534572
>http://egl.livejournal.com/?poster=tsu_
Wow, I remember this person. LJ was a trip. It's weird how small our community was. I wasn't even that into lolita muc, but somehow PM'd her there.

Drama aside, what exactly did she say regarding JM? Did she just say "someone in the shop says they hate lolita" or did she have any article or reference? I'd love to see the entry if you still have it.

>>9535097
I think the '~' means it's adjustable, so it might start at 66cm. It looks like the sort of stretchy/shirred materials you often see on the bust area of maid costumes, so it'll probably stretch to accomodate. I'd look for worn pics though, to be safe.

I'm headed to LA in a few days from the East coast, are there any shops i should check out while I'm there? Specifically my hotel is ~ 5 minutes from Koreatown, 10 from Little Tokyo. I'll also be going to Vegas but I'm guessing there isn't much in the way of kawaii shit there.

>>9535097
I think it would be more logical that 66cm is the underbust minimum, and would stretch with the corset piece.

>>9534518
I wrote that for a reason. Obv not meant for you. However someone else posted a response so I wanted them to know this response is from me.
Now, why did you feel the need to monitor the thread. In such a petty way. I see a lot of people doing this. This is an anon board when you guys scold about a few formatting things you just look like an autist. Its not a big deal but this isnt school.

What the hell does that mean? I never had any package do that before.
Is it going back to the customs?

>>9535183
Dropped my pic

>>9535185
It can mean anything. I assume this is japanese tracking? Did you try you country's tracking sites? If it's vague it's mostly a status update from your country that the japanese tracking system can't recognize properly.

>>9534160
How about you woman up, pull her to the side, and have a frank discussion. Can't be mad at someone if they dont know their wrong. Its not like you want to talk to her so there is no fear of her being mad. Just dont say it in front of people.

>>9535078
Do you own any brand shoes? The older ones yeah, they were made of softer pleather, but I've had no issues with newer shoes from AP and Baby.

>>9534485
So they are blaming the customer. I don't think the customer was asking too much but if a customer is asking something crazy simply send them back the dress and refund less shipping.
>>9534508
F & f lets her get out of chargebacks.
>>9534526
Alterations!! Try everything. I didnt realize they were a "brand". Their creations are so cheap and not well done. Take a look at their store. That looks like homespun sleep clothes.

>>9534540
So she deserved to get her dress destroyed by a lolita shop! Booo. Fringe hobby scammers are the worst!! The customers pay way. more than fair prices/ treat the shops like royalty and still get screwed over! Truly darling you have list a supporter and f your tea parties. This attitude is why people take chances with b-chan.

>>9535185
You should phone them

What the ever loving fuck? They've got this and two plain Bodyline JSKs going for $60 each.

>>9535268
LOL
probably got scammed when they bought them and are now trying to pass them on for the scam price

Does anyone else have Divine Cross in Black with white print? I just received it and it looks like the print is red tinged in places? I want to make sure that this isn't normal before I complain to my SS. It is not visible in the seller's pictures, but I've never seen this print in person to know.

>>9535276
I tried to capture an area that it's like that. This is scattered throughout. Aaalmost enough to look intentional, but I don't remember anyone mentioning this.

>>9535276
>>9535278
I don't own the dress so I couldn't give you any details or pictures, but I've seen it irl before and I don't think it had any red bits.

I checked the archive in case someone already brought it up, but I noticed that when I use Rakuten global Wunderwelt's products come up but the store itself is unavailable. It's been like that for a while, is it just me?

>>9534572
>>9534582
>>9534587
>>9534673
Thanks td for letting everyone know not to do business with you. At this point you need to refund this girl and shut up. Because she left honest feedback you guys dig into her life. The only thing these pictures prove is she has money.

>>9535287
I've been shoveling popcorn into my face this entire drama, but where are you getting that it's the shop posting personal pics of the girl? I missed it if there was something obvious.

>>9535291
The whole tone of these post. It started up thread. I tried to find the post but it was deleted. Basically they were twisting things for no reason. Then it became a flood of bashing the customer.

>>9535301
>the whole tone
Are... are you the customer from the posts?

>>9535278
It kinda looks like they didnt wash it right. the brands should charge a fee for checking pieces. Maybe even a $5 skype/blackberry messenger consult. It would help.

>>9534795
That's the issue I think, I need either a L or LL, not sure yet, but it seems like most of the brand shoes for sale secondhand are S and M

>>9535278
Is the white part flocked? Maybe it rubbed up against a red piece of clothing. Is it consistently all over or just one part of the dress?

>>9535305
No. But I think you are td. Im just someone who thinks its unfair to bash a person for posting a review. Especially if the reviewer didnt bash. I would be mad if I was her but I only use real tailors or for little things a dry cleaner.
Or maybe im being triggered. I bought a "new" workbook on on a book site. The book shipped late, didnt have a wrap and looked thumbed through but still fairly new. In my review I wrote that. The shop tried to belittle/bully me through email. Then offered me a few bucks if I changed the review. I dont monitor my email so I didnt see the offer until days later. In the meanwhile they continued to passive agressive harass. If only they would've listed the book correctly.
DO things right the first time and you wont have to monitor reviews.

>>9535315
Yep, I'm in the same position. The M size fits me for some, but not all brand shoes. It's really frustrating especially when they are hard to resell.

>>9535317
Holy overreaction, batman! I've only commented twice in this thread and I assure you, I am not TD, just someone who can't figure out which side is crazier. Sorry about your... book that you bought?

>>9535316
It's not flocked and it is all over, but this is the conclusion I have come to as to what might have happened. Maybe sat for years in closet next to a red item. I contacted my shopping service to ask if I have any recourse over the undisclosed damage. I'm not sure if a cleaner could fix it either to be honest.

>>9535268

Some of Bodyline's jsks used to be priced anywhere between $60- over 100, in fact the reason people stopped recommending Bodyline to newbies is because taobao was only a bit more and often better quality.

I don't mean this is a fair price, but it's possible this girl bought it at >$100 directly from the Bodyline store, and didn't check the site before listing it. I guess that makes Bodyline the scammer.

>>9535247
>>F & f lets her get out of chargebacks.
That was my point, sorry if it was unclear. I'd only really use it buying something in person from a swap meet. How is that not a super red flag? Smh.

>>9535276
Might just be the age / ink. My cathedral print skirt (black x silver) has a reddish tinge to it and I think it's just how it aged. That could've been a stain they failed at getting out, though, who knows.

>>9535315
Fwiw, I wear a US 9 and am an LL in brand shoes. Just got some Meta platforms in LL that fit perfectly. Bodyline runs huge, though, at least in my experience.

>>9534227
>>9534454
Everyone has time to work out unless you're already working out by being so busy. I can't imagine any lifestyle that has you being completely sedentary for 16 hours a day and 7 days a week.
>>9534587
>>9534655
>>9534673
If that's the girl then she's definitely fat even if she's on the shorter side. Those dresses are popular with fat girls because they can fit their bellies inside of them but the cut isn't intended for that look. It's actually intended for much thinner than normal Lolita so that it can hang from your upper torso and flow elegantly, giving an airy and flighty impression. If you're fat or top heavy it just wont work well for you even if you can fit inside of it.

>>9535164
Little Tokyo has a lot of stuff, there's a cosmetics shop, a bunch of places with cute collectibles and a Kinokuniya bookstore. Anime Jungle has a fashion branch with some overpriced Swimmer stuff. There's a Daiso in both LT and Koreatown. Also Japan LA has a Ghibli event going on but they're a little further away from your area.

Moitie is having a sale currently. Up to 40% off. Got pic related and a pair of tights.

This is also for sale but I can't afford it. I'm going to cry now.

I really like the new excentrique model

>>9535432
nothing says creepy like paper doll cut outs

>>9535287
Yeah I'm not TD either, I was just amused to see an oldtime egl link and user. You're probably correct in your assessment in being triggered though, if you just lumped three or four randoms together as one person because we made unrelated comments.

Whats surface spells print quality like? I love the look of their new stained glass print, but I've heard their prints can be blury.

>>9535317
No one's bashing her for making a review, I think it's great that she's bringing this all out to light, but she is being criticized for being a chronic idiot. I don't think you will ever buy from that book seller again, but she already had a big problem, returned to the same seller, and accepted the obscene overcharged quote.
>Unless that girl is you...

Hey gulls, I just inherited several bolts of professional-grade, high-quality linen meant for women's suiting. I've wash tested it and the colors are locked, it can even go through the dryer.

Would it be "weird" to make Lolita JSKs out of this linen for summer? I have never seen a brand make a dress out of linen, but I live in a very hold place and want to expand the "temperature window" for being able to wear Lolita. The colors I have are: petal pink, bright flamingo pink, Denim-grey blue, sky blue. I was thinking that a solid color Oldschool might be best.

I am asking here because I want to know, from a style perspective, if this sounds reasonable?

>>9535516
depends on how see through they are and how the texture is. if it's really think, I would say to use a double layer so you won't see anything through

>>9535516
you could totally do something old school with petal pink or sky blue (and maybe denim-grey blue)

>>9535468
I feel like someone asks this every single thread.

>>9535516
Some taobao brands have made long linen OPs i think meant to be underdresses. It 100% depends on the exact colour and texture but you could try making something in VMs style

>>9534685
I guess it happened as my order was processed at the final stage, as I only saw three items in my confirmation email, but I swear they were all there.

Luckily, they allowed me to cancel it, but I got a warning to be more careful in the future. I hope it doesn't happen again.

>>9535285
I noticed that too. Usually when a note that the store is "under construction" or "maintenance" (sorry, I don't recall the exact wording) comes up it actually means that the store got suspended for some reason or other and may or may not be allowed back.

Any suggestions for an instore shopping service in Osaka? Thanks

>>9535592
I think mint kismet is in Osaka

>>9535595
Thanks

>>9535516
something Anne of Green Gables/country style would be nice, especially with a white apron

>>9535285
they've closed their Rakuten store completely. I guess the global site hasn't caught up yet?

I'm bummed because I loved using my SS for combined ship when I bought from them and several diff rakutens

>>9534717
But I wear so many styles. Used to wear just classic, then got into oldschool sweet, then modern sweet. Now I wear them all and wear around 6 different pairs of replica shoes frequently, and have a few more pairs I wear rarely. I don't know how I could get by with fewer than black, white, brown, and red, in both chunky and modern cuts. I'm afraid if I can't get them secondhand I'll spend ~1000$ and then change styles again
>>9534958
Queen Bee looks like replicas though? They have one that is very obviously the same as one on baby's site. I don't want to support knock off brands anymore

>>9535278
I looks not quite like red ink to me, but faded and aged black ink that ran onto the white bits during washing.

>>9535909
Where did you get that Queen Bee is replica, anon? It's a very distinct Japanese brand with it's own specific style that's maybe a little outdated, like other anon said.

>>9533780
cease and decease

>>9534690
me too, i want replicas to wear around normies honestly

>>9534514
>>9534690
>>9536048
If any gulls get this, please review it here. I want to see how horrible it looks.

>>9536064
will do, already outed my email so might as well own up and review

It all went well in the end, received my brand ten minutes ago. With no custom fees to pay.
The sweet smell of brand in the morning is the best thing.


>>9536079
seriously curious about it, i would be interested if you review it. Not judging though, I mean I have two pair of replica shoes and two pair of replica socks, i'm a sinner.

I'm curious, what's everyone's least favourite lolita brand aesthetically, and why?

>>9536048
>>9534690
Why? You can find brand dresses secondhand for the same price or less than a new replica and you wouldn't be supporting thieves.

>>9536109
I don't care for Physical Drop's style one bit. Everything looks badly cut and frumpy.

>>9536121
What is this ugly tent...I can't even. They have some nice stuff but it's like 90% frumpy.

Would that be frowned upon if i proposed to my gf at the next tea party we're going to? Since we're two girls i'm affraid of what the japanese guests/staff might think, and i'm also affraid of it being rude/seen as an attention seeking movement.

>>9536136
Yes. It's not the right time/place, you're making a community event all about you.

>>9536109
Angelic Pretty. I've never been a fan of their cluttered as hell sweet prints. They hands down have the most childish and overall worst cuts of any brand consistently.

For indie, probably Haenuli, especially older pieces. Their bodices were just god awful and unforgivable. The prints tend to be really miss more than the occasional hit.

Bodyline most of all just because I see it so much and it's never not terrible, no matter what anyone says.
>>9536121
>>9536122
I think some of Physical Drop caters to plus size, so it might be what you're looking at.

I'm looking for a print I'm genuinely starting to think I made up because I saw it once and never again and I've looked high and low. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, PLEASE help me find the print name!

>library/book print
>offbrand I'm pretty sure
>Not just a row of books lining a shelf like a lot of other library prints
>it's got a library layout along the bottom of the skirt? Like you can see the shelf structure and the floor and shit
>It might have cats on it but I might have made that up. I can't remember, it's been like 6 months.
>pls help

>>9536149
Are you perhaps thinking of Meta's secret library?

>>9536155
Hmm, no that's not it unfortunately - but thank you for trying!

>>9536160
Then this one maybe?
>A-NTIQUE The Cats Hidden in the Library Corner.

>>9536149
Okay I've found something that might help, it looked a lot like this photo of Chocolate Library, but not the actual Chocolate Library Dress. (The actual dress of this photo is made with stripes, the dress I'm thinking of did not have stripes... I think)

>>9536164
That's not it, but that's so cute and being saved anyway :D

>>9536149
Is it this one from enchantilic enchantilly? (It's called Queen Cat ~Secret Study~. Or was it a more gothic print?

>>9536155
>>9536164
>>9536177
>so many library with cat prints
>what they don't realize, you can't read witha cat in the room
>they will always sleep on your open book
>always

>>9536109
If we talking about major brands it would be Moite for me simply because it doesn't fit my taste at all. I think their designs are reptitive and the same everytime. Just not my cup of tea.

>>9536117
Because they're like $20 on Taobao right now? I have secondhand dresses that cost about that much, yes, but they're actual brand and I don't want to constantly worry about sitting down somewhere dirty or brushing against something that would stain/tug/etc on the dress.

I like the Holy Lantern print but I wouldn't want to actually buy one of the actual dresses because I'd want to wear it casually around like I do my cheap normie dresses. No sense in buying a $150+ dress if I know I'm going to wreck it in a month or two.

Besides, I plan on taking apart this replica eventually and making a cute dress for my dog.

>>9536109
Moitie. Doesn't fit my aesthetic or taste at all and all the prints are just gates and cursive writing. Most of their stuff reminds me of like... a 13 year old emo's first high school dance dress.

>>9536149
>>9536166
based on your first description I thought of meta's secret laboratory (you can see the ladders, library floor and setup plus kitties) but it doesn't look like chocolate library
hope you find your print anon

>>9536202
>No sense in buying a $150+ dress if I know I'm going to wreck it in a month or two.

What the fuck, how do you wreck a dress so fast?
Even my primark shit lasts years.

>>9536249
I'm really outdoorsy and I know if I ever got tired of the real one and tried to resell it that the resale value would be shot from snagged threads and probably some trim damage. I'm used to wearing denims so I don't really stop to think I probably shouldn't sit down on certain things or do certain things like clean/play with my animals in a fairly delicate dress where even small flaws knock a good $50 off the value.

I don't mean I'm going to utterly destroy it in a month or two, just ruin the investment since I don't want it to sit in a closet and not get worn out as a daily outfit since I've got boots and a leather jacket to match it.

>>9536180

So you're basically saying >>9536177 is an accurate cat-library print then

>every open book has a cat on it

>>9533780
Burn normie clothes. Wear larme for dates.

>>9536109
Juliette and Justine. It's so ugly in general especially those painting dresses, they're awful.
I wear both AP and Moitié but sometimes they also have really ugly/repetitive stuff that either looks childish as hell or something my 13yo emo self would wear.

New thread >>9536254

>>9536109
and as for indie, definitely Haenuli, i don't think i like anything she put out even though she improved.

>>9536146
>>9536326
Isn't it normal for Lolita to look childish?

>>9536146
Plus size or not, I'm just not a huge fan of their lazy cutting and the loose frumpy fit of the clothes.

>>9535490
Yes they are. Some post were deleted but they are. Also why does everything need to be spelled out. She is being dragged because she spoke up about a beloved store.

>>9536180
Old tradition:

Book stores, libraries and printers, basically anywhere that had large stores of paper, would keep a cat to catch the vermin that showed up to chew on it (roaches, rats, what have you). At least, that's what I was told as a kid by the librarian, and a professor at uni.

>>9536149
Check this board for lolita threads. I have ran into quite a few cats in librarys but forgot your post. I thing I was in the cof or general thread and the post was

https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/angelic-pretty-jsk-df01b930-ba67-46c5-ac19-167edf63cc72
Is this a replica or Milanoo dress they're passing off as AP? I've never seen a brand dress that cheap.

>>9540098
>being this new
>not knowing how to tell Milanoo from brand

Sure is summer

>>9540098
It's a good price for a solid brand JSK

>>9536352
Here's how the dress on the right looks like on a person.
It's interesting to note that Kuniko Kato was a key personnel of Metamorphose in the past.

>>9540508
The back of the same dress being worn.

I vaguely recall her saying she wanted to design more dresses for lolita on the day-to-day basis, especially for people her age.