/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

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"youre more lifestyle than the other gurls because you fuck in your dresses"
you heard it here first folks. only real lolis are the ones that get nasty with daddy

>>9450452
>bitching about a friend to a bunch of catty anons
that's not something a real friend would do.

>>9450470
You sound like a lot of fun at parties

>>9450470
Who wants to be friends with that?
>fugg me daddy gimme cummies in my loli dresses
>such a lifestyler uwu
>do all the things in lolita theres no such thing as more or less lolita unless you do/say something im into or agree with then theres a concept of "more" or "less"

I just came here to lurk... But I've decided to react instead.

I don't judge those who are into ageplay and sissy shit in their private life, as long as I'm not involved

That being said, if you keep it in your private life, there's no fucking reason I should know about it in the first place

>>9450610
This. I don't go around searching for anyone's fetlife account or even really pay much attention to anyone's private FB, so if I know about someone's fetishes it's only because they told me against my will and they deserved to get shamed for that alone. Keep. It. To. Yourself.

>>9450452
>I'm so private and I don't talk about it but lemme tell you what I'm into real quick
stop

>>9450452
>it is just a fashion and has nothing to do with kink
>I incorporate a lot of my outfits with my ageplay
???????
Dear god why are you talking about your fetish in a semi public group get a grip woman

People can have kinks for literally anything. So long as we don't have to hear about it, we don't care. So stop fucking bringing it up. Stop telling everyone what you're in to sexually in an unrelated group. Just go away.

>>9450452
Am I the only one who finds ageplay and sissies fucking disturbing? Not like I would consider any fetish a normal topic at a meet but getting off from child molesting is a different thing. The other girl states that unless she is speaking about it to minors it's fine and a part of a normal conversations, really? I guess you can't help what turns you on but atleast accept the fact most people find these kind of fetishes disgusting because the subject of them is really questionable. You can't be judged if it doesn't show.

>>9450610
>>9450615
>>9450634
I tend to agree it should be kept private, but I can see an argument that if you never talk about it, you'll never meet like-minded people.

>>9450636
I'm with you, anon. It creeps me out that it's started leaking into mainstream shit, let alone lolita and it's just the norm to go around calling your SO "daddy" and wearing collars fucking everywhere.

I may find specific fetishes disturbing but if I don't know what people are up to in the bedroom then I don't care. But it's started to become something to show off and it makes me sick to my stomach

maybe you guys are just a bunch of prudes

>>9450644
>it's that one person who calls everybody vanilla when their kink is portrayed in a negative light

k e k

>>9450640
I think the things people do in their bedroom is their business and why tf would you talk to someone about it? Does it look like any of the lolitas around you are interested in talking about ageplay with you? Do you want them to join you or something? Plus I feel like vomiting when thinking about these people potentially selling their horribly used clothes

>ageplay and the like is derided
>femdom is celebrated
Fucking double standards.

>>9450638
>What is a specialized forum.
>What are specialized online communities

No need to publicly announce it or involve every-fucking-one

>>9450636
I agree. Ddlg sexualises the parent-child dynamic and sissies are inherently misogynistic as all fuck, so anyone into either of these kinks is either seriously disturbed or a really shitty person. Get a therapist to deal with your issues and in the meantime, keep that shit to yourself.

>>9450638

Lolita's not the group for it.

Putting aside that it's a FASHION group and therefore not the right place to advertise for kink partners, it's also the one group that has always, since the days of livejournal, bitched about and openly shamed creepers and weirdoes.

If you still decide to go fishing in that, you pretty much deserve all the shit you get for being stupid.

>>9450651

Who tf is celebrating femdom?

Take all of your stupid fetishes out of the fashion, please. Femdom included.

>>9450719

I am not an ageplayer or into Ddlg but not all kinks and kink relationships are sexual. In most caregiver kinks there is no sex. There is one person who enjous taking care of people and one person that likes being taken care of and having no responsibilities. If anything it romanticizes the carefree lives of children.
Yes there are people that sexualize it but its not as many as it would seem. They are sadly just very vocal about it.
It really seem that the main influx of ageplayers do it because somehow it has become trendy.....i have no idea how. The idea of being a brat and running aroud calling people daddy while wearing fetish accessories in public has become a trend.

Literally most of the girls i know thay are into calling guys daddy and being littles have never even had sex. They are doing it because other are doing it and it gets them attention.

>>9450750
Regardless if there's sexual behavior involved, if you wear lolita to feel like a kid or whatever, keep it to yourself. Especially in this fashion which is already swarmed by misconceptions.

>>9450640
>it's just the norm to go around calling your SO "daddy"
What the hell
Is that America now?

>>9450636
Fetishes are inherently explorations of the taboo parts of our psyche. It's perfectly healthy to have immoral fantasies which you can play out with the privacy of someone intimate, and doesn't mean one would actually want to participate in such actions if actually given a life. For example, people into nurse play most certainly don't actually want to fuck their nurses, just have a sensual framework in mind imagining their partner in that role.

What IS unhealthy is suppressing said fantasies and guilting yourself for having them. Also I will say that sometimes people get into ageplay for unhealthy mental health reasons (regression from child abuse, as an example). It doesn't mean thus is everyone though.

But everyone has their fetishes. Keep that between you and your partner. Nobody else needs to know.

>>9450750
>>9450790
Found the ageplayer

>>9450790
Finally a reasonable human.

I know it's frowned upon to post about the noobs on the little sister group but this girl just grates on me. Besides asking the most googleable questions, she didn't even have her own taste to pick a dress for her first coord, she expected the group to just dress her up. I don't understand why people without their own sense of style or strength to brush off normie opinions try to get into the fashion. It's like, what's the point? Are you just here because it's popular or something?

>>9450790
If your fetish is pretending to be a little girl being fucked by her dad there's something seriously wrong with you and this community wants nothing to do with you

>>9450790
Since when is it healthy to dream about children sexually? Ffs, ddlg and ageplay are just tumblr coverups for borderline or even full blown pedophilia. Also, suppressing said fantasies isn't unhealthy, go to a therapist if your fetish involves something fucked up like pedophilia, there are less damaging ways to deal with it than live out a fantasy involving the sexualization of non-consenting parties.

>>9450838
>>9450840
This. I don't care if someone has harmless fetishes like feet or nurse uniforms or whatever, but if you're turned on by the thought of child abuse then your 'psyche' is disgusting and you need to get professional help, not indulge it and push it onto other innocent people.

>>9450807
learn2sage

>>9450863
Seriously, how did getting off to the idea of little girls being sexually abused by their dads become a
>uwu I'm so unique <33
thing???

>>9450838
>>9450840
Have you guys never heard of rape fantasies? Brother sister roleplay? It's really not odd or even fucked up for two consenting adults to roleply in their own homes.

If you wanna point fingers, you can probably directly relate this to the porn industry. It used to be that things like anal, even just blowjobs, were kind of dirty and "taboo" for couples to experiment with. Now these are just items on your average menu, shall we say. So yeah, if you want to get that same "naughty" feeling that 20 years ago you could've gotten with anal today, you gotta get creative.

Wanting to fuck a consenting adult with whom you also have an adult relationship with who pretends to be childlike sometimes for kicks /=/ wanting to fuck actual children

>>9450840
>>9450863
>go to a therapist
>you need to get professional help

I almost dare someone who is into consensual ageplay or ddlg shit with their partner to tell their therapist or psych about it and ask them if it's an issue. Hint: it's not and your therapist or psych will tell you it's a normal expression of sexuality

>>9450914
No psychologist is going to condone fetishes revolving about non-consenting parties like children or animals etc. Having thoughts about children like that even if it's between adults is actually considered mental illness and needs to be treated. Again, many decent people with those fetishes go to therapists to seek help instead of giving in to sick degenerate impulses.
>>9450913
So now wanting to fuck someone without consent and incest is acceptable? The fuck? That shit has always been frowned upon in bdsm and other legal fet comms and such, they even go out of their way to have consent forms so shit doesn't get like that. And fetishizing children like that is still not fucking okay, you shouldn't look at a child or child related things and see sex objects. Pretending to fuck kids isn't any better than fucking kids.

Try justifying your child fucking fetish somewhere else. /b/ might still take in you pedo fucks.

>>9450913
It doesn't become less fucked up because you get off on it. Maybe don't watch so much porn?

>>9450638
On the one hand yeah, but unless you are trying to invite someone to join you there's no reason to find out if they are like minded. People that insist on bringing up the topic of their kinks as small talk and then get butt hurt when they are judged for it are ridiculous.

>>9450932
You've never actually been to a psych, have you?
Would you expect a psych to tell you "just bottle up your feelings and never let them out"? Any feeling you want. Would they tell you to bottle up your anger? Your sadness?
No, they'd tell you "find a safe outlet to express your emotions".
The same thing goes for whatever weird fucked up fetishes you have. Shit gets imprinted on us when we're kids. You don't have a whole lot of say in what gets your pussy wet but you DO decide how you deal with it.
>needs to be treated
What do you suggest? Chemical castration? Electroshock? Take them out back and shoot them? Get fucked, asshole. That's not how we deal with mental illness in the 21st century.

>>9450932
Dude. Roleplay will ALWAYS be the first thing they suggest over pursuing actual children or propositioning your family members.

>>9450932
Educate yourself, bud. You clearly don't know much about human psychology.

Also, again. Ageplay is not the same as wanting to fuck kids. Stop mixing up the two. Wait so let me probe into your mind a bit. Say a dude fucks a chick who is wearing cat ears, meowing like a cat, etc etc. In your weird world would you consider this akin to bestiality?

Keep your fetishes private, don't talk about them in a comm setting, don't sell dresses you were fucking in, keep your fetishes private, don't equate lolita fashion to your kinks, and by the way, KEEP IT PRIVATE.

I personally find ageplay and ddlg disgusting but I wouldn't even know that people engaged in it and therefore wouldn't judge if these people kept their mouths shut and understood anything about proper behaviour in civilized society.

>>9450636
I just don't understand how you could call your SO "daddy" and not feel extremely gross after the fact? Not even just talking about the age play shit, but in general. Like, I try not to assume people have daddy or mommy issues based on whatever sexual weirdness they've got going on, since that's kind of dumb, but... I can't for the life of me imagine how any girl who doesn't have a train wreck of a relationship with her father could be into that? I had a boyfriend about ten years older than me who wanted me to call him Daddy in bed once. I catered to this request, only to think of my dad, and was so freaked out that I had to stop the sex. Am I just a prude, because I can't see how that doesn't happen to every girl who tries it?

>>9450766
Yes. Yes it is. Normies got ahold of the kink community since 50 shades of pandering. Now every dude wants to be a dom/daddy or every girl wants to be a sub/little. Its invaded the only private pure thing in my life and im endlessly upset over. It. This isnt kink its a mass migration of normies with problems thinking its kink or bdsm related in any way. They are ruining it and its like itas but with kink. Unfortunately tho this leads to abusive relationships and physical harm. Fucking REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>9450972
You're not alone. My skin crawls at the mere thought of calling an SO daddy.

>>9450961
Ageplay freaks me the fuck out, but "this" nonetheless. Saying ageplay=pedophile is kind of in the same realm of when people say that being really into horror movies or fascinated by serial killers means you want to kill people yourself.

>>9450972
I'm into ageplay but I don't call my partner Daddy. It's more about him treating in a manner where he's practically a trusted stranger taking advantage of and speaking to me in a coaxing manner as if I wasn't educated about sex. It's pretty hot.

>>9450932
>Pretending to fuck kids isn't any better than fucking kids.
You are the single most retarded person on the board right now

>>9450984
Exactly. Fuck people who openly force their kinks on others and talk about it all the time but they aren't pedophiles, they're just cringe machines.

Honestly the person who keeps demanding that ageplayers are pedos is the one who is fucked up. Humans, healthy ones anyway, are pretty damn good at distinguishing what is real and what is fantasy. It's fucking why we're able to come up with crazy cool stories and stuff, other animals don't do that. If you can't distinguish fiction from nonfiction, reality from fantasy, it's you who should be talking to a psych.

>>9450955
actually I have been to a very expensive psych for some very expensive therapy, and pre much what you said is the complete opposite of therapy. There's a difference between bottling up emotions and dealing with them rationally. Therapy helps you deal with irrational emotions and behaviors in a rational matter that avoids harm to both you and others, as to cope with/overcome illness, not to propagate it. That's like saying that a therapist tells someone with bpd to go ahead and cut themselves because you don't wanna keep those feelings all bottled up. There's appropriate ways to handle those thoughts and acting them out is the total opposite of illness treatment. And treatment is literally just therapy? Maybe some REBT for those with emotional issues or even DBT, which is really effective with pretty much everything.
>>9450959
From what I've heard (and I don't have time to find atm) thats like a last ditch effort when there's literally nothing else and they haven't committed an offense yet, or a poor way to deal with those with childhood regression. Again, it's still enabling and not healthy.
>>9450961
Again, don't have time to go through peer reviewed journals, and psychology is not my field of study, but this article briefly talks about how despite pedos arguing that ageplay is safer because it removes the whole actual child fucking, it still contributes to an unhealthy global sexualization of children.http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02732170600948857

>>9450932
>Pretending to fuck kids isn't any better than fucking kids.
You are the single most retarded person on the board right now

(not that I even agree that age play is pretending to fuck kids anyway)

>>9450992
Acting out their fantasies with a consenting adult in a safe environment is literally what every psych and therapist would tell someone with actual pedophilic thoughts.

And every single psych and therapist knows is far more educated on human sexuality than you are, thank god, so if someone was to say they were into DDLG stuff the psych/therapist wouldn't even blink an eye, they'd just ask questions like if or why it is bothering us and reassure us that it's a normal expression of sexuality.

You didn't answer my question though. A guy fucks a girl wearing cat ears and meowing and pretending to be a cat. She is not, in fact, a cat. Beastiality?

>>9450992
>I have been to a very expensive psych for some very expensive therapy

time to go back

>>9450955
You are fucking retarded and dont know what your talking about and you sound immature as fuck. Get a fucking grip anon.
>uuuh chemical castration electroshock oh no what u gon do shoot ppl
Fuck off with that strawman one side of the extreme bullshit. Just you pulling that shit shows all of us you dont have the information and maturity enough to make a good counter argument you fucking useless cunt. I for one would put these people in a shallow grave but i also like eugenics and other unethical things but clearly people who have these problems need to be removed from the gene pool one way or another if it is caused by genes and the behavioral problems caused by environments needs to change as well. This problem, like fucking animals, needs to be addressed and people need to get help. Theres a girl on youtube that fucks dogs and encourages other girls to fuck dogs too. Shes advocating for raping animals. Fucking your sister or dad or mom causes deformed offspring and thats why most people dont have sexual attraction to family members. Its science. And ethics comes into play when you are fucking an animal or a child. Animals cant consent. Children cant consent. People that wanna fuck their dads or moms, whatever its a taboo kink but its also adults of adult age or adults playing a role of an older person. The problem i have is that people who wanna fuck anyone under the age of consent has a problem. People who want to play or regress to an innocent young child whatever age is a problem. Its getting as close to pedoness as you can. It makes it more real. Theres like 15 and 16 year old girls who claim to be littles. Its gross and literally normalizing being a pedo. If you cant see that then go get help. Im serious. Go get help theres something wrong with you and its not good for society.

>>9450992
Anon, that article you linked is talking about fucking child porn, not age play.

Also, everything you're describing is for people who are actually attracted to children. Not people who are just doing weird shit in the bedroom. How are you so fucking dumb that you genuinely can't see the difference between finding a grown woman doing childish things hot and actually wanting to fuck a child? Stop being so stupid.

>>9450999
Wanting to fuck your partner who is consenting and pretending to be a kid or a relative isn't the same as wanting to fuck an actual kid or an actual relative.

Lemme guess, you also think violent video games make kids/people violent?

>>9450999
>I for one would put these people in a shallow grave but i also like eugenics and other unethical things but clearly people who have these problems need to be removed from the gene pool one way or another if it is caused by genes and the behavioral problems caused by environments needs to change as well
You need that expensive therapist a fuck of lot more than age players do. Please show your therapist your posts to this thread.

>>9450999

>>9450999
>Fuck off with that strawman one side of the extreme bullshit.
Literally everything you've been saying is "one side of the extreme bullshit". Your entire argument has centered around the idea that everyone into age play and these other strange kinks take it to the extreme of pedophilia/beastiality/rape/incest and is a threat to society as a result. You've taken this to the point of saying you literally want them dead. You're not just an idiot, you're fucking disturbed.

>>9450993
>(not that I even agree that age play is pretending to fuck kids anyway)

Lol wtf do you think it is then?

>>9451003
Two second word search for age play, and the article talks about online fetishes of which age play is one. The example they gave was involving pedos strictly (whether that was an example or the researcher's own belief that ageplayers are pedos idk) but that last sentence basically says it furthers the sexualization of children. The whole point of ageplay is the fucking child/adult dynamic, is it not?

>>9450999
I'm one of the anons upthread who think ddlg and sissies are revolting but dude, you're not helping. Please stop posting.

inb4 samefagging, those aren't me, and I'm definitely not as volatile as the anon thinking that we need to fucking bury all ageplayers. I literally just think that sexualization of children in any way, shape or form is wrong and there are those who do seek help instead of give into some of the worst aspects of those fetishes

>>9450999
>I for one would put these people in a shallow grave but i also like eugenics and other unethical things
I would gladly listen to a thousand of girls like OP pic if it meant I never had to meet someone like this. Holy shit this bitch is deranged.

>>9450996
To answer that last question, it's a bad comparison desu because there's a huge spectrum so to say of what that is. Cat ears is very different from full on fursuit, and while it's still weird it's not really trying to emulate a cat, it's just weird. Now, if they were full on cat suit and doing that and found animal motifs and shit sexy in a non typical furry kind of way (a lot argue its the suits themselves that are attractive not animals, and to be fair some arent even real animals) then yeah I'd probably argue it's some sort of bestiality, although again its a lot harder to emulate than the child/adult dynamic.

>tfw bestiality was sorta legalized in my country and no one said shit

>>9451042
Highly doubt they even believe it, probably shitting up the thread to further shit on me, >>9451031

>>9451023
For it to be "pretending to fuck a child" you would need to actually be imaging your partner is a child. One of the things y'all don't seem able to compute is that most of the people into this shit aren't just using grown women as some kind of substitute because they want to fuck kids. They're attracted to grown women, they just find them acting childish hot. It's weird, it's uncomfortable, I don't like it, either. However, insinuating that any guy into it is a closet pedophile is simply wrong.

Here, let me give you an example that might make this concept easier to digest: I'm very much into extremely feminine men. Nothing waters the jimmies more for me than a guy who basically looks like a straight up hot girl. I'm not fucking these men for the sake of pretending they're women. I'm not attracted to women at all. I simply find extremely feminine men sexy.

>>9450758
I completely agree with this. There are situations in which it is ok to bring it up and in a fashion community is not one of them.

>>9451060
no1curr

STFU and post caps of that got that got wrecktd in COF.

>>9451284
What?

>>9451060
stop defending ageplayers and ddlg twats

>>9450972
I have a train wreck of relationship with my father and that's part of why ageplay disgusts me so much. Maybe you have to have experienced childhood sexual abuse to get it.

>>9450610
This. Ngl, ageplay creeps me the fuck out like >>9450636 and >>9450640, but I wouldn't have a reason to get judgey if if people had the social sense not to talk about it at meets or on public profiles and isn't doing stripteases on soc in lolita or something. As for sissies, I never had a big problem with that as a fetish (some unnervingly misogynistic undertones but not the worst thing in the world compared to a lot of other fetishes) until I got into lolita and discovered what shitlords most of them are IRL. If people can keep it quiet I wouldn't care.

>>9450452
>>9450454
I'm really glad I'm not in her comm.

>>9451327
Not an argument.

>>9451356
>isn't doing stripteases on soc in lolita or something
Why do you have a problem with this? They are not involving you, isn't that what everyone is complaining about?

is this girl even a lolita? she starts threads in rufflechat every few days and gives advice and comments on every fucking post despite the fact that there are no photos of her in lolita whatsoever. mods of rc, cof, etc, please tell her to shut the fuck up when she doesn't even wear the fashion.

>>9451380
here are a few of her very worthy contributions

>>9451373
Because non-lolitas see it and assume lolita's a fetish thing. It damages the reputation of the fashion, because soc is a public space.