/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9445604
As promised, seller pics of Baby's 2002 Tiered JSK. This one's with a weak petti and not no petti.)

(Yes, I found a 2002 JSK that still had the original tag. Even worse, the security tag inside was never removed either! I'm not sure whether it's more likely that it's stolen burando or just a careless shop assistant.)

>>9446010
Detail shot and original tag (price matches the price on lolibrary). Ignore the waist-tie close up, it's just showing the damage from ironed-in creases.

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>>9446021
That lace makes me feel things. It's gorgeous, anon!!

>>9446021
Sax version, shown on mannequin without petti.

>>9446032
Seller photos of the tags from the sax JSK also make it look like it's unlined, whatever lolibrary says.

It's also floating around the Western market somewhere in black, since I found an ld listing for it on LM. All the pictures have expired but the seller reckons that it has the same sizing as the re-release (lolibrary measurements of 92cm bust and 73cm waist):
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/btssb-tiered-oldschool-jsk

dumping some pics

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old kera scan, sorry for ant size

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>>9446097
These ones are so cute, what year is this magazine from though? Looks more recent.

>>9446119
Seeing effort go into finding interesting backgrounds for photoshoots is one of the things I really miss about print magazines going. Modern lolita backgrounds tend to be either plain and neutral or cookie-cutter kawaii, so you see a lot less stuff in the street or against "edgy" backdrops.

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>>9446133
Most scans are from around 2005-2006. The most recent ones are from 2007, but I try to pick outfits that still qualify as kind of oldschool.

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>>9446142
Woah, Misako does not look good there. I actually thought that was a dude for a second.

>>9446143
and these are all for now

>>9445604
First Saturday in June will be my first Saturday free from the fucking hellish confines of my first year of school, and I will have completed my first step towards my degree. I will be celebrating and frilled to ye olde schoolest degree. I have some new (old) dresses now that I haven't worn yet and it's gonna be fun deciding what to wear for it.

>>9446145
i love this dress! what's it called?

>>9446113
I had that green jsk ages ago, I wish I had kept it.

I got this skirt in the mail yesterday, it made my heart skip more than anything I've gotten in a while. Even though it's kind of plain I guess, I'm so happy I bought it!

>>9446141
Sorry for OT, but how would one wear a large canotier like that one in the right? Looks like it would be a large pancake on someone's head if they wore it normally with their hair down.

When you guys wear old school, do you feel it's important to wear it to a T or are you more interested in adding a personal touch? Are you adamant about wearing cotton blouses over chiffon or wearing shoes that are explicitly old school?

>>9446201
I am yeah, honestly I really don't like the modern chiffon blouses much, and personally I really love the chunky shoe look. There aren't really any modern elements I love enough to add them in. Makeup, however, I will attempt to modern-up a bit. The old GLB tutorials are so dated most of the time that I just can't do them to a T, I find them unflattering. I try to take inspiration from them, but I modify them to suit my tastes.

>>9446101
The world famous lolitas! Their coords are still so lovely to look at

>>9446201
I like wearing it with a bit of personal touch. I take a lot of the freeform philosophy of oldschool so I sometimes mix it with more modern stuff.

>>9446172
Nice!

>>9446174
Bobby pin the shit out of it to stop it moving around and, yeah, they look really weird with a lot of hairstyles.

>>9446201
I wear my clothes how I think they look best and I'm not afraid to mix old and new pieces, but I'm scrupulous about accuracy if I'm going to call something oldschool. Authentic early-00s chiffon gothic pieces aside, I wouldn't tag anything with chiffon/modern shoes/tulle lace/whatever as oldschool unless you couldn't tell those details were wrong from the photo (like when black-on-black tulle lace doesn't show up from a distance). I also usually try to do at least one "period-accurate" outfit with all my oldschool pieces just to see how it looks, even if I think a piece looks better coorded in a more modern way.

I try to keep hair and make-up close to the roots but I think there's a bit of leeway about it as long as it fits the aesthetic and/or could plausibly have been worn at the time. OTT make-up usually looks very weird unless it takes heavy inspo from porcelain dolls or VK looks, but I think the more natural the make-up is the more you can get away with techniques that weren't used back then. As an example, I wouldn't ever do insta-brows with oldschool, but other recent trends like Korean straight brows work IMO because they look close enough to the natural brows you sometimes saw back then to blend in. Similarly, even though highlighter didn't even exist in the mainstream in the early 00s, I use subtle highlighter quite a lot to add freshness and dimension to my face - I think it works because it's there specifically to help fake a dewy, natural look like a bare-faced IW model for summery coords which doll-like matte foundation would look weird with (my skin's too bad to actually go without make-up).

>>9446286
You have so good points. I have very round and I guess kinda fat face and without highlighter, blush and eye make up I look like a potato. I only use neutral colors and natural lashes though. Also, imo, if your hair is natural you can get away with basically any style. I hate modern wigs in old school. I find them too full and unrealistic but that's just my opinion.

Mayday is approaching so I'm already digging florals out of my closet. Also button downs, it's going to be the rare time I'm able to wear those with underdress/skirt before it comes too hot.

>>9446174
They look ok with ringlets and slightly bigger hair

I'm planning a coord with the Little Riding hood jsk. I'm just waiting for the shoes to come here!

>>9446143
I have that pink skirt! It's so cute and full of details~

For the kind anon that asked for pictures of this dress in the feels thread last week - sorry I took so long! Here's a dump of some of the pictures I took

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This is gorgeous anon! I hope you post on cof I'm dying to see it worn.

>>9448582
I have the op in pink, I love it! It hurts my heart to see it though, I accidentally spilled coffee on myself badly when I had it on. Haven't tried few tricks yet and already got some of it out so maybe there is hope. It was my dream dress...

>>9448792
Thank you so much anon, it's lovely! The detailing is so gorgerous.

Found this for 5000Y, I just know it's from Baby.
Can someone identify it/its year?

>>9450825
nvm found it
https://lolibrary.org/items/btssb-victorian-op

>>9450829
>bust: 86 cm

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>>9450880
I have this too and it's not even snug on my 86cm bust if I use corset to bring down the cup size. The sleeves are painfully small though or I have gotten generally more fat. I have combination of fat and muscle though so I would say it's not impossible to fit into them. Atleast I can get it on, yeah?

>>9445604
>Velveteen season is just about over for most of us. Now that it's starting to get warner, what are you planning on wearing?
I have a lot of lighter pieces in the mail and I want to try oldschool casual lolita. I've been experimenting with different oldschool legwear like narrow-gauge white fishnets too.

>Do you wear old school exclusively?
No, I have a lot of oldschool but I own modern stuff too. I keep being tempted to switch over though, since the oldschool half of my wardrobe is so cohesive and compared to all of the prints that almost need a different blouse, novelty bag and pair of shoes for every single dress. There's not much overlap between the two halves of my wardrobe as well because most stuff only works for one era, so I feel like I've got double the amount of blouses/shoes/etc that I would if I'd stuck to one or the other.

>Do you plan on wearing old school for ILD?
I was originally planning to wear something OTT but I've just found out I've got to be away from home for a couple of weeks over ILD, so I'm probably going to end up in oldschool because the mix-and-matchabilty makes it easier to pack a few outfits instead of just one or two.

>Do you feel like prices for old school pieces has gone up due to popularity?
Yes, but I think the bigger effect is just more people buying from Japan causing all second-hand stuff to go up in price. Closet Child and Japanese second-hand brand in general was much cheaper a few years ago.

>>9451471
>What do you think about the general new interest that's been going on for a while with old school, does it annoy or excite you?
I worry a bit about rare pieces being taken out of circulation by people that don't realise their value, but other than that I think the renewed interest is a good thing. It's definitely nice to have oldschool appreciated and accepted at meets again instead of just being seen as ugly and outdated.

Of course, the amount of people coming into oldschool who are totally clueless about the style piss me off, but what can you do? People praising inaccurate outfits as "Just like a GLB street snap!" when they're nothing alike, or spreading stupid misinformation like "oldschool shoes were only black and white" really grind my gears, but I think producing accessible guides and resources will ultimately just result in even more people who can't be bothered doing their own research entering the style. It's very obvious from some comments and posts on CoF etc that all their exposure to oldschool comes thirdhand from new coords and they've never seen any/many street snaps. It's annoying when one or two popular oldschool lolita's personal style gets mistaken for the be all and end all of oldschool because newbies have never seen anything else.

Does anyone know where I could find an apron like the one of the left? I own the op to the right and I love it, but it's missing the apron that came with it. I own the apron to the left out of pure luck in black and so wish I could find it in white or something very close to it.

>>9451545
Excentrique just released a similar one.

>>9451545
Dear Celine released an apron OP set today, it just went up on Lolita Updates.

>>9446124
That ivory dress is my fucking dream

>>9451687
I'm not sure if it was even released in that form; AP had a habit of adding extra embellishments to dresses for photoshoots that weren't part of the official release. The roses might have been an add-on.

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Anon thank you again!This jsk is amazing even with no blouse + bolero/cardigan.
I was thinking how is in detail old school lolita makeup?I see these tutorials scans but they aren't super informative and I don't understand japanese. Maybe some beige/white eyeshadow, minimal brown eyeliner and a bit of mascara along with nude pink lips would work? It's very different from the 'modern' ott lolita makeup we see nowadays.

Does anyone have any good Gobelin Print coords? I wanna get some ideas, Thx.

>>9451741
This was discussed a bit upthread but I would say natural is the only requirement. Do what flatter you the best. Afterall, not many of the nowadays' techiques were available back then. Obviously it also depends on the era and the style.

I used to hate having small tiddies and being kinda small but now that I'm into lolita i realize it's an absolute blessing and thank the genetics gods everyday.

>>9445604
>Velveteen season is just about over for most of us. Now that it's starting to get warmer, what are you planning on wearing?
With my country's weather I could probably wear velveteen for all but 3 months of the year, but I'll just be wearing the rest of my wardrobe since I only have a few velveteen pieces anyway. I don't change much for winter and summer other than add a coat usually

>Do you plan on wearing old school for ILD?
Of course, it's my entire lolita wardrobe

>Do you wear old school exclusively?
I do

>Do you feel like prices for old school pieces has gone up due to popularity?
I think so and it bugs me a bit as I started wearing it before it became trendy one of the factors to me wearing old school was the much cheaper prices

>What do you think about the general new interest that's been going on for a while with old school, does it annoy or excite you?
It makes me happy to see it becoming more acceptable and popular, but with that it annoys me to no end that so many of these 'old school' coords are the laziest definition, and people don't seem to bother doing their homework on what the fashion actually was like.

>>9445604
>Velveteen season is just about over for most of us. Now that it's starting to get warner, what are you planning on wearing?
I'm not much a fan of velveteen, so all my pieces are fairly summer friendly. though the Dutch summers can be quite sweaty, and if I have to get outside in that weather, I usually just wear a skirt-skirt combo or my IW jsk (that's not really oldschool, but still plain enough for my taste) with only a short bolero

>Do you plan on wearing old school for ILD?
IDK, I don't really celebrate it.

>Do you wear old school exclusively?
I'm trying to convert my full wardrobe to oldschool, so I'm planning on doing so

>Do you feel like prices for old school pieces has gone up due to popularity?

just a bit, but they are still fairly cheap compaired to recent releases

>What do you think about the general new interest that's been going on for a while with old school, does it annoy or excite you?
both. I like it if more brands would put out oldschool again, but I would hate it if people would just wear oldschool again because of trends. I like it more if people be rebelious with wearing oldschool

>>9445604
>Velveteen season is just about over for most of us. Now that it's starting to get warner, what are you planning on wearing?
I don't have any velveteen piece. I get hot kinda easily and I would probably be uncomfortable in velveteen unless it's really cold. I'll wear cotton as always.

>Do you plan on wearing old school for ILD
Probably will

>Do you wear old school exclusively
Not exactly, but old school makes most of my wardrobe.

>Do you feel like prices for old school pieces has gone up due to popularity?
Not really or at least not that much? But apparently other anons are saying it does so maybe I didn't pay attention. I sure hope it won't go up drastically.

>What do you think about the general new interest that's been going on for a while with old school, does it annoy or excite you?
I must say I'm quite glad to see it's getting some love again but also not so much because I liked being a special snowflake?

>>9451741
You can look through old scans at brand ads and large-sized street snaps to get inspo, but desu I don't think there is that much of an oldschool-specific style of make-up. Like, we think of oldschool as having it's own distinct style compared to modern lolita, but if you compare non-gothic oldschool make-up to mainstream 90s and early 00s "natural" make-up in Japan it's basically the same thing. It's just a basic natural face using the techniques and products of the era, it's not really something lolita-specific. You can stick to that exact sort of look to be more authentic but unless you're East Asian it won't look the same on you anyway, so I don't think it's wrong to use other techniques (like highlighter, brushes, contour) to achieve the same result as long as you keep it relatively natural.

>>9451993
>With my country's weather I could probably wear velveteen for all but 3 months of the year
iktf anon, I wore velveteen for ILD year a couple of years ago because it was only 16°C. A capelet and earmuffs I bought back in February just arrived and I wish I could shoehorn them into summer coords instead of packing them away.

>>9451790
it's tiny, but here's some pics from one of meta's very old fashion shows in 2000 iirc.

I'm having no luck with lolibrary so I was wondering if anyone could help me identify this skirt? I'm pretty certain it's Meta
I am interested in seeing how it has been coorded, mainly what people do with that front hem cutout. is it a way to feature bloomers?

Found an OP black meta dress for 1500 yen:
https://item.mercari.com/jp/m502105153/

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Thanks, these are really nice!

>>9452381
It looks like it was made to be worn with an underskirt but don't quote me on that.

>>9451890
My makeup is already natural enough and inspired by korean or japanese makeup even though i'm white and with no circle lens or fake lashes.
>>9452235
I thought to search for general jfashion magazine old scans to see if I can spot a makeup tutorial, I know it won't look the same as an east Asian person would wear but I can try. I don't use contour or highlight because i'm too lazy for a full makeup face, I just use the basics.

Best place to buy peeking bloomers?

>>9453594
seconding this. all bloomers are too short or with the wrong lace

So I just won this set (Super happy that I'll finally own a Metamorphose lace monster!) I thought it was from 2004 but now I suspect it might even be from 1999? The green from the 2004 listings look much lighter and it's closer to the brown in this1999 version which lists both light green and green, could anyone perhaps confirm this?
https://lolibrary.org/items/meta-bouquet-print-high-waist-op

>>9453670
It'll be the 1999 version judging by the tag

>>9453670
Nice find anon! Working with that olive colour sure will be interesting for you

>>9453612
I vaguely recall anons recommending F+F but honestly just keep an eye out for drawers on the secondhand market. BTSSB's have really cute torchon lace and Meta's are pretty common and easy to find.

>>9453670
Damn anon, I'm the one you overbid. Congrats, you better wear this monster with pride. Yes, it's the 1999 version. Like you said, the cape of the 2004 version has little differences. I also recall seing the set in an older Kera street snap.

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That's awesome! I was thinking that there were some lace differences between all the 2004 sets I saw.
Sorry I outbid you >>9453716 I hope it'll pop up again for you.
I'll do my best with it! I fell in love with the colour... I also found a nice Meta oldschool (2004 though) blouse to go with it and I'll probably get some white raschel lace socks to go with it but the only oldschool-ish shoes I have are black so I'll see what I do with it once it gets to me.

>>9453594
I found mine by baby second hand just recently, try to search for it specifically in Japanese if you aren't already.

Can anybody link me to that old school gallery that was posted a while ago. I can't seem to find it on the archive.

>>9455482
http://imgur.com/a/ij8db
I can only apologise for the fact I clearly gave up on ordering everything by colour.

I also think that since imgur decided to change their photo albums from a tiled format to in a big list, I might move it to another platform, where should I move it to?

>>9455489
Thanks so much anon I really appreciate it!

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>>9455489
Is that the one? The link I have is this:
http://imgur.com/a/YzGcg

>>9455507
Yeah there's two, the latter belongs to another anon, both have been posted before in oldschool threads

I remember last thread people really liked this dress, there's one up on fril right now: https://item.fril.jp/c4240861ae1c98514e3119dd656cda1a

This is probably a stupid question, but how do you do an old school gothic coordinate without just doing the classic Mana-clone look? Moitie has a very specific aesthetic that's barely changed in the years it's been around, and a lot of the hallmarks of old school Lolita don't apply (moitie has been using chiffon, tulle lace, light polyesters, and the like since the dark ages. Is it just the heavy makeup, slightly fried hair, and clunky jewelry, and staying more in tune with its v-kei roots that keep it old school?

I guess my question is what makes old school gothic old school?

>>9456127
There is definitely other looks. Just stay away from sweet elements. I don't know how to describe it exactly as I'm not native speaker but try to achieve that melancholic edwardian feel to distant yourself from classic. Or wear what you like without thinking about too much.

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It's funny you say this then post a bunch of old moitie stuff lawl.

>>9456408
That's true but anon was talking about the full blown Mana look, or that's atleast how I got it. Many of these still have Moitie items or fried hair or other elements but I tried to look for coords that still might have been what anon was looking for. Different hairstyles, styling etc. If that's not what anon meant then I'm sorry for mistaking it. Not many brands catered to gothic even back then so makes sense there is still going to be lots of Moitie. I hope I didn't get it completely wrong or someone else got inspired or something.

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That's the way I read it too. It sounds like some newfag can't separate Mana's (very distinctive) style with general Moitie.

>>9456127
I think old school gothic is inexplicably tied to vkei, since the reason gothic even entered the equation is because of the rise of vkei. Before that, lolita was just natural kei and 1970s gunne sax style dresses. So I don't think it's possible to seperate old school gothic from that look, it might not necessarily be a Mana clone look, but it's very 90s gothic so that's kind of the look.

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To end the dump a little OT- I love this photo, it's just 4 friends with very different styles having fun

>>9456356
Hmm. Maybe I wasn't clear, or we're getting our signals crossed. I get what gothic is, I was asking more what made a gothic coordinate old school rather than new school. You hit on some of it with the comment about avoiding looking too classic, I think the modern gothic style takes a few cues from the OTT classic trend. Sorry, I shouldn't chan so much while I'm sleepy.

Now I'm worried that this is going to bring the debates that plague the gothic threads here...

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>>9456826
Modern gothic is more elegant and Victorian inspired, while old school gothic is more frumpy and rebellious imo, apart from the simpler more Mana inspired coords

>inb4 oldschool isn't all frumpy, I know but I'm dumb and can't think of a better way to describe what I mean

>>9456826
I think you're right in it takes cues from OTT sweet, looking at recent gothic trends and popular lolitas, like Mariedauphine and Voodooodolly and her hats. It's much more opulent, and a huge thing is using really gaudy accessories like giant hats, skulls, and religious iconography. There's still more simple gothic coords, but the main difference to me is in the makeup. I would count the nun trend from a while back as an updated gothic look, since obviously nuns have been a gothic lolita staple from the beginning but the recent way people style it is completely different.

>>9456826
I simply think that a lot of gothic hasn't changed that much since back then, apart from adding Taobao prints. A lot of Antique Beast and Moitie designs are virtually unchanged from back then, so it becomes mostly about hairstyling, shoes and accessorizing. Oldschool gothic has much less accessories, and obviously isn't going to use any recent trend items. There are a lot of pieces that people wouldn't recognise as oldschool now.

This sounds really weird but does anyone else look at the old school snaps of lolitas and wonder what they're doing nowadays?

Like image attached, I wonder how old the kid is now etc!

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Awesome & Adorbs

>>9451474
>It's annoying when one or two popular oldschool lolita's personal style

That soccermom-chan coord still gets me going.

>>9456866
That's part of what I love about gothic - simplicity, timelessness, and comfort.

>>9457028
I never actually saw that, pics?

>>9456378
I think this is one of the first pictures of lolita I ever saw. This one or of almost the same was in a little blurb about harajuku fashion in some American teen magazine ages ago.

>>9456919
I wonder what these girls are doing nowadays. Probably because this is one of my favorite old school pics of all time.

>>9456919
All the time! Especially if people snapped together are still friends/a couple and if they still wear it.

>>9458007
My fav are the ones with the kids, I wonder where those tiny tots are now.

>>9457054
found the btb

Found some ancient blog of a Japanese lolita. I will dump some pics with outfit rundowns

11/2000

Girl on the right:
ラプンツウェルのヘッドドレス (Rapunzel headdress)/Antique Beast
バラレースパフスリーブブラウス (Rose lace puff sleeve blouse)/victorian maiden
別珍前編み上げジャンパースカート (Velveteen front knitting jumper skirt)/metamorphose
パニエ・ドロワーズ幅広レース・オーバーニーソックス (Panier · drawer wide lace · over knee socks)/metamorphose
別珍バッグ(黒)(Velveteen Bag (Black)/Alice Doll

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09/2000


イバラ姫ドレス/薔薇ヘッドドレス(黒)(Princess Ibarara Princess / Rose Head Dress)
逆十字ネックレス(赤)(Reverse cross necklace)
以上 all Antique Beast

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10/2000

Girl on the right:
赤薔薇ヘッドドレス/個人製作 (Red rose head dress / personal production)
黒モヘアツーピース (Black mohair two piece ) /MIHO MATSUDA
ニーソックス (Knee socks) /Heart E
ストラップシューズ (Strap Shoes) /ノーブランド (offbrand)
逆十字ネックレス (Reverse cross necklace) /antique beast

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10/2000

Girl on the right:
リボンヘッドドレス (Ribbon head dress )/KAZUKO OGAWA
十字架ビスチェ&スカート・逆十字ネックレス (Cross Bustier & Skirt · Reverse Cross Necklace)/Antique Beast
レースチョーカー (Lace choker)/victorian maiden
オーバーニーソックス・ブルマ・パニエ (Over knee socks · Bloomers · panniers)/metamorphose
ロング手袋 (Long Gloves )/ノーブランド (offbrand)

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Girl on the right:
赤薔薇ヘッドドレス (Red rose head dress)
吸血姫ワンピース (Vampire Princess One piece)/antique beast
赤い雫ネックレス (Red drop necklace)/antiquebeast
コウモリマント (Bat Maant?)/BLACK PEACE NOW
レース手袋 (Lace gloves)/office VAMPIRE
パニエ・ブルマ・オーバーニーソックス (Pannier · Bloomers · Over knee socks )/metamorphose
ストラップシューズ (Strap Shoes)/ノーブランド (offbrand)

>>9458160
same outfit

>>9458162
from her closet, entry is from 2001

別珍ケープつきミニマント metamorphose

>>9458166
also from 2001

Antique Beast

>>9458172

2001, girl on the left
ロココブーケワンピース (Rococo Bouquet One Piece )/Victorian Maiden
丸型ヘッドドレス (Round headdress)/castle in the air
レースチョーカー (Lace Choker)/Victolian Maiden
ローズレース手袋 (Rose lace gloves )/Victorian Maiden
パニエ (Pannier)/metamorphose
ブルマ (Bloomers)/metamorphose
棺バッグ (Coffin bag)/Antique Beast
ストラップシューズ (Strap Shoes)/ノーブランド (offbrand)

>>9458182

from her closet, 2001
別珍ヘッドドレス / Antique Beast

>>9458198
also 2001

Antique Beast

>>9458201
entry from 2001

ジョーゼットシャーリングジャンパースカート (Georgette shirring jumper skirt)/metamorphose

That's actually the ivory dress peaking out under the OP, the name of the over OP remains unknown.

>>9458205
2001, Atelier Pierrot

>>9458205
nvm, name is this one:
ジャガードワンピース (Jacquard one piece) / Mille fleurs

>>9458207
name:
吸血姫のワンピース (Vampire Princess OP)

>>9458210
again 2001

ピース 0021 (One Piece 002)1 /KAZUKO OGAWA

>>9458122
I haven't seen her post in awhile, did she finally leave lolita with her shitty sorority makeup?

>>9458211
2001
別珍ジャンパースカート (velveteen jumper skirt)(metamorphose)

>>9458215
with cape >>9458166

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>>9458222
2001
レースジャンパースカート (Lace jumper skirt) /metamorphose

>>9458224
dropped the pic

>>9458227
2001
フェイクレザーパンツスーツ (Fake leather pants suit)
No mention of brand, but possibly meta?

>>9458231
2001
ダイヤヘッドドレス (Diamond head dress) / Metamorphose

>>9458122
Ohhh, I remember it now. Yes, that was painful, although the BtB crit on poof levels is a bit much.

>>9458234
2001
総レースボレロ (Total lace Bolero) /metamorphose

>>9458239
2001/2002
ヴェールヘッドドレス (Veil head dress) / metamorphose

>>9458240
2001/2002
様ヘッドドレス (Lady's head dress) /metamorphose

>>9458243
2001/2002
薔薇のヘアゴム (Rose hair gel?)

No mention of brand, but looks like Meta

>>9458245
2001/2002
合皮バッグ (leahter bag)/metamorphose

>>9458248
2001
ブロックレーススカート (Block lace skirt) /metamorphose

>>9458245
Pretty sure it says "rose hairties"

>>9458253
2002
metamorphose

>>9458257
2002 meta

>>9458258
2002 meta

>>9458259
2002 meta

>>9458260
2001
ロココブーケワンピース (Rococo Bouquet One Piece) / VM

>>9458263
2001
ゴブランプリントマーメイドワンピース (Gobelin Print Mermaid One Piece) / VM

>>9458264
2001
バラレースパフスリーブブラウス (Rose lace puff sleeve blouse) / VM

>>9458267
2001
レースチョーカー (Lace Choker) / VM

>>9458271
smoky rose forest 限定チョーカー (Smoky rose forest Limited choker) / VM

>>9458272
2001
バラシャーリングブラウス (Rose shirring blouse) / VM

>>9458273
2001
別珍フリアスリーブボレロ (Velveteen Flare Sleeve Bolero)

>>9458122
Does anyone know if any of the Miranda releases fit an 89-90 cm bust? I keep seeing different releases secondhand and they all sound too small for me. I really want the all black or all white version to see if I can't style it oldschool

>>9458275
2002 vm

>>9458275
Thanks for posting these, they're amazing!

>>9458279
2001 VM

>>9458282
2001
十字架ビスチェ&スカート (Cross Bustier & Skirt) / Antique Beast

>>9458290
2001
吸血姫ワンピース (Vampire Princess One Piece) / Antique Beast

>>9458293
2001
王冠カットソー (Crown Cutsew) / Antique Beast

In the description it says it has crowns on the backside of the sleeves.

>>9458296
2001
イバラ姫ワンピース&ボレロ (Princess Ibararu One Piece & Bolero) / Antique Beast

>>9458147
>>9458151
Those 2 pics make me feel the melancoly

>>9458298
2001/2002
蝙蝠ケープ (Batcape)
レースケープ (Lace Cape)
Antique Beast

I think they are still selling that Bat Cape, never thought it was that old!

>>9458260
Fuck this headdress is so cute!

>>9458302
2001/2002
十字架パフスリーブワンピース (Cross Puff Sleeve One Piece) / Antique Beast

>>9458307
2001
赤い雫ネックレス (Red drop necklace) / Antique Beast

>>9458308
2001
逆十字ネックレス (Reverse cross necklace) / Antique Beast

>>9458310
2001/2002
棺バッグ (Coffin Bag) / Antique Beast

>>9458311
2002
No mention of brand. Might be Millefleur?

>>9458313
2002
ジャガードワンピース (Jacquard one piece)
No mention of brand.

>>9458314
2001

>>9458317
2001
Bustier with bolero / BLACK PEACE NOW
Skirt / MAM
White snow veil / Antique Beast
Love cat's collar / Antique beast
Lace frills gloves / Victorian maiden
Frill bag / BLACK PEACE NOW
Knitted tights / strap shoes

>>9458207
I just decided that I'd kill for this dress...it's so pretty, I can't...

Though I kinda doubt it'd fit my bust.

>>9458319
2002
love cat の首輪 (Love cat's collar) / Antique Beast

>>9458333
2002
Witchドレス (Witch dress) / Antique Beast

Main image is broken ;_;

>>9458334
2002

>>9458336
2001

On the left:
ヘッドドレス/Angel Cage
ジャガードワンピース/Mille fluers
総レース薔薇十字チョーカー/羽根十字社
ベロアマント
レース手袋/office VAMPIRE
パニエ・ドロワーズ/metamorphose
ニーソックス/Heart E
ストラップシューズ/ノーブランド

>>9458339
2001
シフォンベビードール (Chiffon Babydoll OP)
No mention of brand.

>>9458345
2002

>>9458358
2001/2002
Miho Matsuda Set

>>9458371
2002
ゴブランラッパ袖ツーピース (Gobelin trumpet sleeve two-piece)/metamorphose
ヴェールヘッドドレス (Veil head dress)/metamorphose
チュールパニエ (Tulle Pannier)/MARBLE
レースフリル手袋 (Lace frill gloves)/Victorian Maiden
オーバーニーソックス (Over knee socks)/metamorphose
ネックレス「vena cava 」(Necklace "vena cava")/greedy dolls
ブレスレット「アクセサリー12」(Bracelet "Accessory 12")/greedy dolls
マンタリテ・バッグ (Mantarita Bag)/Mauvais Ange
ストラップシューズ (Strap shoes)

>>9458375
2002

サイドレースアップブラウス (Side lace up blouse)/MIHO MATSUDA
ティンカースカート(Tinker skirt )/MIHO MATSUDA
フリルつきエンジニアブーツ (Engineer boots with frills )/MIHO MATSUDA
蜘蛛の巣ガーターストッキング (Spider web nest garter stockings)/Queens xxx
ネックレス (Necklace )/MISS ALICE

>>9458379
Dropped the pic

>>9458389
It might be interesting to know how an oldschool lolita felt about lolita and how she got into it. So I'm finishing the dump with a translation from her blog (sorry, it's only google translate, if someone wants to do a proper translation, go ahead)
This entry is from April 2001 btw.

ロリィタへの目覚め
正直言って、最近までロリィタというジャンルがあることさえ知らなかった私。
それがどうして突然、しかもこの年になって目覚めてしまったのでしょう。

それは、ラルクのリセットライブのときのこと。
終了後、友達を待っていた私の近くにゴスロリちゃんがいました。
長い髪、ヘッドドレス、ふくらんだスカート。そしてマント。
物腰もとても優雅で。
とてもかわいい方で、ずっと見蕩れてしまっていました。
ほんとにきれいなゴスロリちゃんだった。
ああ・・こういう世界があるんだ。
そう思いました。

それからはネットでロリィタサイトやショップを見まくりの日々。
見れば見るほど惹かれていきます。
そのうち見るだけじゃ我慢できなくなって、自分でもやりたくなってしまいました。
そしてまずはウィッグを購入。
さらにヘッドドレス、お洋服なども。
どんどんどんどん何かに憑かれたかのように買いまくりました(＾＾;)

そして、今に至ります。

>>9458403
>Translation
Awakening to Lolita
To be honest, I did not even know that there is a genre called Roryita until recently.
Why did it suddenly wake up in this year?

That's when L'Arc reset live.
After finishing, there was Gothic Loli near me who was waiting for a friend.
Long hair, head dress, swollen skirt. And cloak.
The hips are also very elegant.
It was a very cute one, and I was always fascinated by it.
It was truly a beautiful gothic lolly.
Oh ... There is such a world.
I thought so.

After that, days of seeing Rolita sites and shops on the net.
The more you see it, the more it will be attracted.
I just could not stand it just by looking and I wanted to do it myself.
And first I bought a wig.
In addition, head dress, clothes etc.
I bought it as quickly and steadily as possessed by something (^ ^;)

And it will arrive now.

>>9458405
>Pt. 2

ロリィタについて
ロリィタの世界にどうしてこんなに惹かれるのでしょう。
女の子って、やっぱりいつまでもお姫様のような服に憧れるのでしょうか。
たとえば、ウェディングドレス。
これも一種のロリィタ的なお洋服のように私は感じます。
ヘッドドレス(ロリィタでいうそれとはちょっと違う感じだけど)にふくらんだスカート。
ウェディングドレスを着たくないって人もいると思いますけど、着たいと思ってる人は多いはず。
ロリィタファッションはその中に永遠の少女性を秘めているようで。
少女の持つかわいさも、残酷さも。
私を魅了してやみません。
ロリィタ気持ち悪い。そう思う方もたくさんいらっしゃるでしょう。
でもそれは個人の価値観。私はかわいいと思う。だからやりたいのです。
ロリィタの似合う女の子になりたい。すごく思います。

>>9458408
>Translation Pt. 2

About Lolita
Why are you so attracted to Rolita's world like this?
Will girls long for long-term clothes like princess?
For example, wedding dress.
I like it like a kind of Rolita-like clothes.
A skirt that swelled in the head dress (though it is a bit different from that in Lorita).
I think there are people who do not want to wear a wedding dress, but there are many people who wish to wear.
Lolita fashion seems to have an eternal girl property in it.
The girl 's cute and cruelty as well.
I am fascinated by me.
Lolita is bad feeling. There are many people who think so.
But that is personal values. I think that I am cute. So I want to do it.
I want to become a girl looking good by Rolita. I think so.

>>9458409
>Pt. 3

ジャンル
私のやりたいロリィタのジャンル。
黒を基調としたものです。
黒ロリ、ゴスロリ。
白ロリや甘ロリは私には絶対似合わない(笑)カネコ系とかも。
全身黒とかすごく好き。
レースやフリルもたくさんついてるのじゃなくて、適度なのがいい。
ロングスカートが好き。
すとんとした形のとか。
パニエでボリュームを出すタイプの短いスカートも好きだけど、でもやっぱりロングが好み。
以前はエロティックロリィタも惹かれてたけど、最近はエレガントなかんじが好きかも。
毒のあるロリィタ。
すごく憧れ。

お化粧もしっかりしたい派。
というか、お化粧しないととてもじゃないけど人前になんて出られません(爆)

これはあくまでも自分がやりたいジャンルの話。
見るのなら、どんなジャンルでも好き。
白ロリ、甘ロリ、お人形ロリ。パンクロリ。なんでも。

>>9458412
>Translation Pt. 3

Genre
The genre of Lolita I want to do.
It is based on black.
Black loli, gothic lolly.
White loli and sweet lolly do not suit me absolutely. (Lol) Kaneko system as well.
I love the whole body black.
I do not have lots of races and frills, it is reasonable to have it.
I like long skirts.
It's like a stuffy shape.
I also like short skirts of the type that give out volumes with pannier, but I like long after all.
Erotic Lolita was also attracted before, but recently I may like an elegant Kanji.
Poisonous Lolita.
I longed for it.

We also want makeup firm.
Or, it is not very unless you make up your mind, but I can not get out in front of people (explosion)

This is a story of the genre that I want to do.
If you see it, I like any genre.
White loli, sweet loli, dolls doll. Panchrome. anything.

>>9458414
>Pt. 4

ロリィタなお洋服
・・・高いですね(苦笑)
今までブランドとかハマった経験、実はないです(＾＾;)
ノーブランドばっかり。もちろん子供たちの服も。
そしてハマったロリィタの世界。
服も小物も高い(笑)
一着2万とか3万とか平気でしますよね(汗)
それなのに、ハマり始めた途端買いまくってしまった私・・・(爆)
とりあえず一揃い揃えるまでは仕方ないかな(笑)
そう思ってどんどん買ってしまってます。
新作とか出るとかわいくって衝動的に買っちゃってたり。
・・・怖い(笑)

でもかわいい・・・

>>9458417
>Translation Pt. 4

Lolita clothes
· · It is high (bitter smile)
I've never been to a brand or something I've never seen before (^ ^;)
Only no brands. Of course children's clothes too.
And I am addicted to the world of Lolita.
Clothes and accessories are also expensive (haha)
I do not care whether I am wearing 20,000 or 30,000 (sweat)
But even though I began to be addicted, I bought it all the while ... (Explosion)
I guess it can not be helped until I have a set of items (laugh)
I thought so and I bought it quickly.
I bought it cute as impulsively as I got a new work.
... Scary (lol)

But it is cute ...

>>9458420
>Pt. 5

いつ?
けど、かわいいからってどんどん買ってもあんまり意味がない(＾＾;)
なぜなら着る機会がないのです(><)
私は専業主婦。二人の娘がいます。
日常でなんてとても着られない。
高いお洋服が汚れてしまうもの。
それにだいたい旦那様には内緒だし(笑)

お友達になった、ロリィタなママさんがいます。
彼女は日常もロリィタさんなんですって。
二人の小さいお子さんを持つママさんなのに。
なんでも子供さんたちは聞き分けがよくて、お洋服汚さないらしい・・・
そして二人ともロリィタが大好きらしいの!!
親子でロリやってるんですって!
旦那様もロリィタ好きだそうで・・・
とても、素敵だなあと思います。

でも私の場合は先に述べたように、聞き分けいい子たちじゃないからしたくてもできません。
ならいつロリィタな格好をするの? ってかんじなんですが。
ライブの時しかありません。
でもライブもそんなに頻繁に行ってるわけじゃない。
せいぜい3か月に一度とか二度くらい。
集中する月は集中するけど、全然行かないときもあるし。
平均するとそんなかんじ。
まるでこれじゃあロリィタちゃんのコスプレしてるみたい。
でも仕方ないです。
時々無性にロリィタなお洋服、着たくなります。
そんなときは友達を呼んで一緒に着て遊ぶの(笑)
ストレス解消です(笑)

>>9458425
>Translation Pt. 5

When?
However, it does not make much sense even if you buy more quickly from cute (^ ^;)
Because there is no opportunity to wear (> <)
I am a full-time housewife. I have two daughters.
I can not wear it very much in my daily life.
High clothes get dirty.
Besides, it is a secret to husband (laugh)

I have a lolita mama who became a friend.
She says Lolita in everyday life.
Mama with two young children.
Everything is good for children, it seems that clothes will not be stained ...
And they both love Lolita! It is!
Parent and child doing loli!
Husband likes Lorita, so ...
I think that it is very nice.

But in my case I can not do it because I am not a good-looking one, as I mentioned earlier.
Then when do you look like Lolita? It is like a kanji.
There is only when it is live.
But I do not do live so frequently.
At most once or twice in 3 months.
The concentrating month concentrates, but sometimes it does not go at all.
On average it is like that.
It looks like it's a cosplay for Lorita.
But it can not be helped.
Sometimes I want to wear clothes that are asexual as Lolita.
In such a case call a friend and wear it together and play (laugh)
It's stress relief (lol)

>>9458248
I have this bag. Didn't think it's actually this old but poor thing is so beaten up it's not really a surprise.

>>9458428
Thank you for translating, it was an interesting read. I wonder what she is up to now. I wish she is finally free to dress as she wishes if her kids are already left home.

>>9458278
The 2016 release on lolibrary only has up to 86cm bust listed, so I'd think not sadly, as recent releases are usually the most forgiving/biggest.

>>9458248
>>9459073
It might be this but they re-released a really similar one a few years later that I can't find on lolibrary now - check the dimensions:
https://lolibrary.org/items/meta-leather-shoulder-bag

I know because I saw a bag that looks like yours when I was eyeing this up on auctions and went through all the Meta bag listings on lolibrary (before they changed the site). Damn vague Japanese sellers though, putting "it is over 10 years old" when they know full well it's closer to 20 because they bought it new...I nearly missed out on this because I was too lazy to check and didn't realise it was that ancient.
https://lolibrary.org/items/meta-enamel-tote-bag
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k230927152

>>9458428
Thank you for translating and posting the pictures Anon! This is so interesting to read, she really passes along the feeling of first getting into lolita well.

>>9459084
It's definitely the first one, just checked it measurements even though the shape and enamel were signs already. It's a good bag, it can take pretty much anything.
>Looks crushed in the pic but it's really not

>>9446010
if you need tips on removing the security tag i can help

Will Baby ever stop re-releasing this dress? It's cute but I'm so sick of seeing it in sales and countless re-releases when there are so many other gorgeous old school dresses that desperately need a re-release.

>>9459816
I looked up some tutorials online but it's old enough that I honestly can't figure out if it's an ink tag, magnetic tag or what. People keep telling me to buy magnets/tag removers online but they're really expensive for something I'd only use once - there are some cheap ones but apparently they don't work well. I'm a student living away from home so I have no access to bolt cutters, pliers etc either.

>>9459830
I guess it's an iconic piece and sells well but I'm bored of it too, if they're going to do endless karamis I prefer karami 3-tier.

>>9459830
Never stop. I need it in like 5 different colors.

>>9446201
ill wear newer items but i still want them to have the old feel. so ill wear a new cotton blouse or new crochet tops socks but i wouldnt wear chiffon or tulle lace or any new styled ways

>>9459830
I wish I had extra money. Is it just the pic or does it look a bit shiny? It's pretty regardless.

>>9459912
Isn't it Babydoll though? It's also really forgiving so Baby might be thinking that too.

>>9460672
I can say it's not shiny and it's also super large

I wish there weren't so many dead images in old EGL posts, they're so interesting to look back on! Not really aesthetically inspiring though as the western community looked terrible back then - like in this link, there are two good Mana clones and a whole bunch of itas.

http://egl.livejournal.com/958336.html

>>9461590
That ita in the background looks like the Principessa Pullip doll

>>9461754
Generally the quality standard in EGL back then was horrible - it's actually pretty tedious to search through, since there are so many stupid noob questions and sales posts in the group (EGL sales not existing yet), of the pictures that weren't dead links these are the LEAST ita for that month. There's a lot of stuff that's just random miniskirts with an office shirt...
http://egl.livejournal.com/956798.html
http://egl.livejournal.com/941769.html
http://egl.livejournal.com/929363.html
These were all right:
http://egl.livejournal.com/930421.html
http://egl.livejournal.com/925575.html

Also found Fahr's first post, didn't realise she'd been around so long:
http://egl.livejournal.com/899486.html

And an Avant Gauche gallery of hair/make-up tutorials that isn't a dead link (weird how they deleted their navigation but lots of the pics are still up):
http://www.avantgauche.co.uk/gallery/beauty.html

Also some weird ancient site with a bunch of tiny pics (larger versions are dead links) of harajuku fashion? Click Tokyo Girls then Harajuku:
http://www.livemusicstudio.com/

>>9461952
Art:
http://egl.livejournal.com/923390.html
http://egl.livejournal.com/975654.html
http://egl.livejournal.com/975654.html

>>9461959
New dream oldschool shoes:
http://egl.livejournal.com/931756.html

Reactions to an ill-informed Kamikaze Girls review (male review complains "proceedings might have benefited from a little more raunch about them"):
http://egl.livejournal.com/984976.html
http://www.midnighteye.com/reviews/kamikaze-girls/

>>9446160
Do you remember what it's called, by chance? I love it

>>9461952
Pic of Meta set linked above, the best coord that month and worthy inspo IMO.

>>9462025

>>9458245
gumu, as in elastic
I am chubby and my heart skips when I see that word in listings lol

>>9462032
Decent handmade.

>>9458428
wow. the feels.
wanting to wear it everyday but not being able to. wanting all the beautiful pieces and the gorgeous feelings of femininity and pride/reverence that come with them...and letting your bank account suffer because the fashion is just that amazing

I loved reading this.

>>9461984
The one I has was from Cornet (also called Shot Gun Wedding.) I didn't get the name, people weren't as particular about the names of stuff back then.

>>9458302
I have the bat cape! Can confirm they still sell it. Love AB.

>>9458345
Holy shit I need this in my life immediately.

>>9458334
This piece has been on my wishlist ages, I didn't know it was so old! The seller updated all the photos on the site a couple of years ago and some of the designs have been slightly updated too, but I didn't notice her saying it was that old on her blog post.

>>9462277
It's surprising what they still sell. I think the exact design of the Bat/Cat headdress they sell now is tweaked from the original, but it's been around since 2002:
http://www.lolitahistory.com/gallery/picture.php?%2F8957%2Fcategory%2F34

>>9462235
I never realised Cornet was Shot Gun Wedding I feel like an idiot

>>9461952

https://web.archive.org/web/20050620084302/http://fans.blackroseunicorn.com/elegant/

https://web.archive.org/web/20040806043556/http://gothicbible.crazyanimefreak.net/

Anyone remember fanlistings?

Event report from Vampire Garden in Osaka from a net.goth in 2004, with description of attendants:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.gothic.fashion/SRlWGmcIECs

>"My favorite outfit was a huge, white dress that looked like a decaying
wedding cake. It had an enormous ruff on it, and several layers of
poofy skirts, and the girl wearing it was smoking a cigarette in a
long holder with a little frilly thing on the end (just before the
cigarette itself) that matched her dress. Her hair (probably a wig)
was a mass of ringlets restrained by various sparkly clips.
Her outfit didn't involve any black that I could see, but it was
decidedly creepy and wonderful.

>There was a mixture of goth, gothic lolita, and sweet lolita styles.
The main sweet lolita I saw had a little pink straw hat with a turned
up brim and a pink sundress with strawberry designs on the bottom edge
of the skirt. She was wearing very high, chunky mary-jane type high
heels. I think they were red, but it was hard to tell in the
lighting. Her hair was in two braids that hung forward over her
shoulders. She was wearing the usual lolita socks.

>I didn't take a closs look at any other sweet lolitas, but I did see
one with a cute pandabear backpack later (or possibly some other cute,
fuzzy animal?).

...

>Make up ranged from subtle on most of the girls to super heavy on most
of the guys. Some of them had tear drops or other little curlycues
drawn on their faces, but I also saw one with a huge design on one
cheek. I think it was supposed to look like an injury... or perhaps
an infestation of a cheek-eating alien. It was interesting looking if
dramatic.

>Another guy was wearing a brocade jacket and pants that finished just
below his knees in a tight cuff. He had sort of a mad aristocrat
thing going on."

I've seen a lolita in a scan with a panda bag before, wonder if it was the same girl.

>>9461984
Here's a worn pic. It's ancient, so please no concrit.

>>9462745
I have it in black. Great dress, didn't know it's actually that old. I love how stiff the fabric is and the lace in the bodice is so pretty.

>>9462745
What shoes are those?

>>9463560
Some American offbrand. Probably thrifted?

>>9457174
i love this

>>9456361
This coord is amazing!!!

>>9451741
>I see these tutorials scans but they aren't super informative and I don't understand japanese.
Late reply, but I was just looking through the beauty tutorials linked in >>9461952 and I was really surprised how many of them included false lashes, even though anons above had said they don't use them. They're so natural you basically can't tell in the results photos, and a lot of the girls don't even seem to have put mascara on their lower lashes - I'm guessing it's because a lot of East Asian girls naturally have very short lashes, but most white or brown lolitas wanting to recreate the look wouldn't need it?

>>9464462
Why would you want to recreate an impediment?

>>9464500
Sorry if my post was vague, I meant recreate the look of a GLB model not recreate having short lashes, lol. I brought it up because I've sometimes seen people say that you shouldn't wear falsies with non-gothic oldschool because they were too OTT, even though they're in a bunch of sweet make-up tutorials from that period.

>>9456127
Maybe try looking into the goth scene of other countries? I personally like to mix bat cave and deathrock type styles with my old-school looks

>>9459912
ink tags have little glass vials of ink on them. upload a pic of it and ill tell you how to get it off.

>no one can judge an anon for her past.. can they?

>>9459912
Just take it to a department store and ask a nice employee if they can take it off for you. They'll understand, this stuff happens all the time and they'll know for sure that you're not trying to steal the dress or have stolen it due to the Japanese tags.

>>9465035
Are you sure? I had a friend who got stuck with an item with a tag on it (not lolita) and everywhere she asked refused to remove the tag for ""legal reasons"". A lot of places just want to cover their own asses.

>>9464886
Hoping it's just magnetic but I'm worried the raised bubble contains ink.

>>9465052
I worked at Macy's and we'd do it all of the time. Some places may say that, but we never touched on it in any of our trainings and no one cared.

>>9465058
The bubble does not have ink in it; it has a pin and spring. If you don't want to take it to a dept. store to see if they'll remove it, then you can melt the bubble off with a lighter to expose the pin and spring and just dig them out with a screwdriver. If you're careful it shouldn't hurt the dress at all, just do it over a sink in a well ventilated room.

I've got this old school meta jacket. Has anyone ever seen any of the rest of the set pop up anywhere?

https://lolibrary.org/items/meta-school-jacket-03-ladies

>>9465058
dollar stores sell jewellery pliers (centre pic related) you can use it to cut just under the flat disk on the side with the washing instructions. the bubble, like anon said, is where the pin and spring are (where the magnet lifts to release the pin). i cant remember if the "hook" took works in the little hole there but if it does you dont need to order one. just take a key ring and bend it in a curve shape to match the same curve as the hook device (you can trace an image of one on google to know the curvature) then you just shove it in there to release the pin. i do think that jewellery pliers will work best.

>>9465774
this kind of hook can be replicated with a thick keyring

>>9465782
(and these hooks are less than a dollar on aliexpress btw)

>>9464462
I would leave my lashes natural or just a tiny bit of mascara to recreate the look. Thank you anon to pointing it out, I always thought they used fake lashes rarely but in reality they were just super natural ones. As false that are too OTT, some people mean the gyaru styled ones.

Go get it, anons!

>>9465599

>>9466094
Thanks for creating bidding wars, anon.

>>9466128
You're welcome. :)

Currently watching the episode of ANTM online where they have to go to brand stores and put together a 'top model' take on j-fashion or something, I'll post the screencaps as I go. Apologies for the potato quality

>>9466564
I think this cycle was 2004 or something. Here's the interior of Metamorphose