/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Requesting pictures of visual kei artists wearing lolita

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>>9434175
>cheating

>>9434161
Ai used to be gothloli in the early deathgaze days

What is your opinion of westerners wearing visual kei as a fashion?

>>9434995
I don't see a problem with it as long as they wear it well.

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After Mana and Dada, I think the most recognizable goth loli in VK is Michiru <- played along with ex-Da'vid's Misa and Eruze in Aioria

Tsunehito also have some Goth-Loli shootings when he was young xD

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>>9436760
Such a great bassist. Before he joined D I was into his former band, Scissor. Pretty cool and sort of underrated/forgotten VK band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4s9KXq4yyI

>>9436760
He should have kept wearing it desu

>>9442922
I love this guy.

Anyone here is following what's going on with the Malice Mizer's 25th anniversary event?
I was checking Mana's twitter and he was exchanging words back and forth with Kozi and Kamijo from Lareine.
I think they're going to do a full Malice Mizer concert this time.

>>9446228
From what I was told, they were discussing demo tapes, and the specs and usage of the cassette tapes for their demo reels. Then he went on to talk about the lineup's they had in the past.

I mean we can all hope they will do something. But I'm not going to hold my breath.
They will occasionally do small mini reunions, but never anything really big. So I'm guessing that's what's going to happen again.

>>9445542
Best Miyavi right there.

How do I know when vk bands come to Europe? Specifically the Netherlands?

>>9447321
I would keep an eye on bands official facebook pages. If they announce a tour they will usually put information up. Also check out the b7klan facebook page. They set up a lot of EU tours for bands. And they give plenty of notice when they bring a band over.

>>9432788
Wait a minute.
That background...

>>9446731

They seem to still keep in touch with Tetsu, so there could be a small chance of a reunion with the original lineup.

>>9453225
That is actually super nice to hear. I was always worried that he was that one band member that got thrown out when they got huge and would be forgotten. I always felt sort of bad about that. (he was my fav vocalist, actually)

>>9453240
There was an interview with Tetsu about his departure for Malice Mizer. I believe he didn't got kicked out of the band but rather he wanted to leave due to musical differencies; he wasn't digging the sissy french pop thingy and wanted to do a more straightforward rock music. In fact his first band after Malice Mizer, Mega8Ball, was this alternative rock band with Tetsu rapping, sounds kinda like RHCP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YcMjuV5oSE
Anyway, maybe he discussed with Mana and got kicked out, I don't know, but at that point in time, even though MM was fairly popular in the indies scene, it was still uncertain how famous they could get.
When Tetsu left in 1994, Malice Mizer was still playing at small venues for maybe 500 or 1000 people max.
In the interview, Tetsu said that he was working a part-time job in 1998 (so this was Zigzo days I guess?), and one night it was raining a lot and he had to work outside, that same day Malice Mizer was playing on the Budokan, so he was like "maybe if I didn't leave that band..."

I know Tetsu is still in contact with Kozi, I think Kozi and Tetsu even played together in some event (I think Kozi with ZIZ and Tetsu with nil, or something).
Would be cool if Kozi manages to get a live event with ZIZ, The Junejulyaugust and Moi dix Mois, and maybe do a few Mizer songs with Tetsu, one can dream.
Tetsu actually played Baroque (or maybe it was Kioku to sora) in one of his solo gigs. He was playing songs from his old bands, also played songs by Zigzo, I think he played them all acoustic, I wonder how the Malice Mizer song was. (Tetsu can actually play acoustic guitar, he played the acoustic guitar on Gogo no sasayaki)

>>9453225
It would be amazing if it happened.

any love for baiser here? katsura is super cute imo

Versailles and Matenrou Opera are playing at Kamijo's birthday concert this year. I'm super excited to go to this. Has anyone been to one of his birthday events before?

>>9455746
More bands were announced for his birthday live

KAMIJO
HIZAKI
Jupiter
David
Cross Vein
SHAPE SHIFTER
Kuroyuri to Kage
Grieva
Belle
Purple Stone

>>9437559
This makes my kokoro go dokidoki

>>9455746
I bought the B level ticket. So excited!

Anyone collects old (or new) VK magazines and fanzines?

I've been trying to get issues of Imaginative, a late 90s/early 00s vk fanzine, not easy to come by even in Japan.

>>9459792
Check Rarezhut. They get so much stuff in from Japan, they might have a few copies. And if they don't, they can keep an eye out for you.

I met Marty Friedman. We talked about visual kei. He told me to spread the word about it here in the USA.

>>9461105
what bands did you talk about?

>>9461243
He loves X Japan from what I know. He talked about it in a documentary called "Global Metal".

>>9461105
Marty has played with people like Shinya from Luna Sea. He's a big weeb and a TV celebrity in Japan.

Guys I think I found Klaha, he's now doing interviews to people on the streets on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z87PPu05sdY

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>>9461243
Marty and I didn't talk about any specific bands (but I know for a fact that he's a fan and friend of many bands, and a lover of the vkei scene, and a Japanese resident of course) but I also talked to Chargeeeeeeee and mentioned to him that I like all his bands, while he was signing a picture for me. It was Chargeeeeeeee's look from Femme Fatale's photoset. He was really surprised I had that photo. He got excited and showed Kiyoshi, and she was like, "I don't know him!", it was really funny. They were all super nice.

>>9461416
Lol'd, but I wish it were him

is moon kana considered visual kei?

>>9462766
It seems it varies from person to person. Some consider her VK and some dont. I personally dont see her as VK. But thats just my opinion.

>>9462766
I'd say no, because she isn't associated with the scene. She's just awesome J-pop.

>>9436620
What about Kaya? I'd say he's way more recognizable.

>>9463818
He is not really a lolita, sure he has modeled for brands but if it counts so have Hizaki too. I wouldn't consider neither a lolita, they don't wear it other tham for advertisement.

>>9463960
They do wear it outside ads, at least kaya does. And by that logic do you not consider people who only wear lolita to cons and meets not lolita either? Then that's fair

>>9463969
That's an odd comparision since those people don't wear it to benefit their career. If you find Kaya a good visual kei lolita by all means carry on, I just pointed out why I don't consider him and Hizaki lolitas. I still enjoy seeing them both in it though.

>>9463818
Nowadays? Yeah, in fact I haven't heard news from Michiru in a while, he's probably still producing bands, but I have no idea.
But I mean Michiru was/is the president of Loop Ash and he was one of the most famous (in the indies scene) guys who wore gothic lolita.
This was in the early 00s when Schwarz Stein still didn't exist, and when Rudolph/SS appeared and became famous thanks to Mana, Kaya was wearing more gothic/S&M kind of outfits, not really lolita, I think the first time I saw Kaya in lolita was after SS broke up.
But yeah, Kaya does wear lolita and is probably a lolita referent, and Michiru is probably unknown for many people, but back in 2000/2001, Michiru was one of the most famous goth loli guys in VK.

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>>9463984
>only for advertisement
>Kaya not a lolita
Literally what? There's nothing different between Hizaki and Kaya and older artists, stop viewing the world through nostalgia glasses. Kaya especially is a protégé of Mana himself.

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>>9465210
I do agree that Michiru is way too underrated these days though. I wasn't trying to put him down, just recognize others as well.

>>9464421
I have no clue what you're talking about, Kaya wore a form of gothic lolita for both SS album looks.

>>9465210
I didn't compare them to any of older artists. That is only my opinion, I even stated it doesn't bug me if you view them as lolitas because it's only my point of view in this. My intention wasn't to insult them, I still like both artists very much. I'm sorry if I came accross as offensive but can we agree people have different definitions of lolita and move on?

>>9465103
Love this look

>>9465215
Take a look at the Schwarz Stein pictures again.
He used vinyl clothes, a long skirt, more similar to industrial/rave goth rather than Lolita.
Maybe the only loli thing he used was the little crown.

Nobody posted Emiru yet?

>>9465508
He's the bass god, and king of badass concept albums

>>9465103
I met a Japanese guy who loved this band

Has hyde went too far with plastic surgery?

Everybody always talks about Kaya, but what about Hora? We like him right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaseF8j2kq8

His first solo album I liked better than his SS stuff.

>>9465611
Aging + sunken in cheek lines + bad lighting + color contacts =\= plastic surgery.
He's just getting old.
I've seen his face up close at a show recently in fact, and he doesn't look like that picture, it's a poorly lit picture.

>>9465650
I love Hora, him and Kalm are two of my biggest songwriting inspirations.

But I actually came here to share this video of Kaya's behind the scenes studio work for Yumeji, if anyone hasn't seen it yet.

>>9465722
Forget the fucking link, sorry.
https://youtu.be/GX2AIW0L4cE

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>>9465732
You are retarded. Lighting is everything.

>>9434995
It's great, except for Swedes without original ideas.

>>9465751
Hyde has probably gone through a few surgical moments.

>>9466032
You people act like he's Gackt.

Hyde hasn't really done anything inherently bad, except not put out L'Arc stuff quick enough.

>>9465724
Thank you for sharing this!
I've been wanting to see the making of for Yumeji!

>>9451565
W...wait

>>9466207
Kaya in plainclothes is pretty rare, and he's very handsome. I've only seen him out of costume and makeup twice, once on a now deleted Twitter pic, and once in a selfie on the cellphone of a tour staff girl I met at a Femme Fatale show. And as a sound engineer, seeing even a little bit of his process is so satisfying.

>>9466220
They probably had the same photographer. The scene has always been tight knit like that.

Has anyone else had the displeasure of listening to Shu~Furuma~Ju?

>>9466607
I did, they reminded me of Da'vid shito:aL but with less musical skill and with more mental damage.
It's definitely an experience.
There's also another similar band called Ruritama.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox2UFZAj9oQ
This one is actually less crazy than Shuu furumaa ju, but still kind of weird.

So, Mana tweeted about Klaha recently... only to say that he has no idea where Klaha is.
At least he posted a cool video of the Budokan concert when Klaha was introduced. Nostalgic as fuck.

>>9466743
Wow, so he really only knows about as much as anyone about Klaha's whereabouts. The way Mana writes about Klaha and his fans is very caring, Mana's so sweet. It's great to know Mana cares about Klaha as much as we do, probably even more because they're personal friends.

>>9465508
I love those shoes! Now I want them

>>9466739
I just today found out about KIBOUya Honpo. They had freaking Nii from giru. And although their music is antical, there's some awesome songwriting, somebody did a good job with that. They've made a fan of me.
https://youtu.be/o2xOwHXUXmY

>>9466779
Kibouya is great, and the songrwriter/vocalist is Eiji, who was in various other bands.
Kibouya Honpo actually was a "part 2" of a previous band called Himitsu Kessha Codomo A, they were fairly popular in the indies scene back then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRKSegJUqlU
And before Codomo A, there was Macaroni:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICwjwnHnDRU
And before that, a bunch of other rather obscure bands.
After Kibouya Honpo he teamed up with Takken from Codomo A/Kibouya and formed Sandwich de120pun?, Kouta (the bassist of Codomo A) also joined later.
Sandwich broke up around 2012, and now Eiji, Takken (and I think some other guy from Kibouya) are in a new band called Matsutake Works (or MT Works), but they don't have any release I know of, they only do live shows.

Eiji is a very interesting person, his songwriting and lyrics are amazing, and he released so much stuff that probably I'll never get to listen to it all (he released like over 100 CDs as a solo artist under the name "Dentaku", and they're all very limited releases and very hard to get to foreigners).

>>9466233
He was recently saying that he still is not used to introducing himself to people without make up. But he is working on it. Im hoping this may lead him to do some more things in plain clothes.

>>9467227
Damn, thanks for the information. I was trying to track down Eiji and I did conclude that he's playing lives with MT WORKS and not making records, good to see someone corroberate that.

>>9465601
idk about "bass god", i feel like he's an amateur bassist. doesn't keep me from stanning the hell out of him though. i wish i could bring myself to like ANUBIS and his solo material.

>>9468673
also i meant average, not amateur

Classy

>>9470393

I've noticed that a lot of you like older bands! Are you guys interested in the newer generation of visual kei musicians and if so what bands do you currently like?

>>9470424
I do like some of the newer bands. I really like The Gallo, Rides in Revellion, Jupiter, GAMEOVER, and Aiolin. I like more but those are the newer bands I can pick off the top of my head.

>>9470424
In my case, I listened to VK more than 10 years ago, when I was a teen, but I don't like every older band, there was a lot of shit back then, too, Kisaki produced a lot of untalented guys on Matina, Soleil, Under Code, etc. But out of say 100 bands Kisaki produced, I can say I love maybe 3 or 4 of them, sometimes the bands had talented guys in them and made a difference with all the other seamless, boring vk bands.
I'm not really into VK anymore, I stopped following the scene closely but I sometimes catch up a bit with some artists I like, but they're all older guys. Buck-Tick and Luna Sea are still fucking around, so.

>>9470424
I got into visual kei in 2013, so yeah, I love lots of newer bands. (Pic related is the vocalist from one of my favorite new bands, Marco, hopefully someone knows them.)
My excuse for being so new is being young, I'm only about to turn 20.

Also, it fucking sucks that so many innovative and creative young artists are getting ignored nowadays by older fans because they insist that "muh visual kei is dead", even though it's clearly thriving, it's just gone back underground, the gold mine is in the indies scene once again.

>>9470612
>visual kei is dead
That's a phrase that's been around since the early 00s. Around the time bands like baroque came out (which is said to have started the infamous oshare kei), and the VK sound became more "westernized" with numetal influences and what not.
In a way, it's true that VK has never again been as popular as in the 90s, at least in Japan. The "visual boom" was in 1997.

>>9470638
Last decade's vkei majors wave is pretty much done, but visual kei is anything but dead. If we look back at over this last decade so far, 2010-2017, it looks so much like the hugely saturated indies vkei scene of the 90s. I kinda really dig it, there's a lot of certain things but also a lot of variety and things that have never been done before.

Yoshiki is going in for emergency surgery on the 16th. He say's that none of the X shows will be cancelled, but who knows with him. I just hope everything will be ok.

>>9470878
fuck
we're never getting that new x album
or tour

>>9470886
Yeah we will, just wait a few more years and we'll finally get to hear a preview.

>>9455224
I haven't gotten into them, reccomend stuff?

>>9455727
And here's the shitty/poor man's/plaigarist version of that look

Here is Hex.sys, a band from New York inspired by visual kei, glitch, and dark vaporwave.
https://youtu.be/z36U4Sr7qng

>>9470612
>>9470683

The thing is that with VK (and pretty much any other genre/scene, but especially with VK) a lot of bands are influenced by older bands, so when you've been listening to VK for over 10 years, everytime you hear some band, it's that feeling of "I've heard this before, many many times".
The bands that are truly unique and don't sound like anything else (VK or not) are very few.
I just listened to some The Gallo and Marco, and they sound a lot like 2000s Dir en grey. In fact I'm still amazed the DEG influence is STILL around.

I'm open to recs and suggestions though. Is there any newer band as unique as, say, Da'vid shitoal? (the band in the OP, which has 2 bass players and a really characteristic sound not found in any other band, VK or not)

I'm looking for recs of currently active bands too but I don't care about originality desu, I just want a band that has good skills with a non-crappy vocalist.

>>9470542
>noirfleurir
these guys were mental, it was like spanish-inspired Malice Mizer on LSD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNnjniA3A0k

>>9471776
>>9471783
I think Insanity Injection is very very unique in their sound, but that's almost cheating because it has Kyouka.

Honestly, finding a band that doesn't sound like ANYTHING else is nigh impossible, even 2000s DEG used sounds and a lot of influence of some of their predecessors, no matter how unique they were/are.

I really don't think Gallo sounds like Dir en grey did at all, they're really unique, especially in their deeper tracks (album songs, not singles). And as for Marco, their biggest influence is probably Merry, but Marco has more of a modern edge. They're fantastic musicians and all of their songs are unique and characteristic of themselves.

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>>9471783
Probably the two most unique active bands, in my eyes, are Kiryu and Sibilebashir.

>>9471872
Yeah, in the 90s DEG were influenced by Kuroyume, especially Kyo. But during the 2000s, around the Vulgar era, they became a lot more "westernized" and moved away from their VK roots and went for sounds and vocals that were more similar to bands like Disturbed, Korn, etc. This influenced the VK scene greatly, because DEG was like the front modern VK band leading the scene at the time, the amount of Deg copybands back then was amazing, some of them even became popular (Sadie).
Merry was also a band influenced by Dir en grey, doesn't the Merry vocalist treat Kyo as his sempai or something?
>>9471873
I listened to Kiryu before, I think. Will listen to their new stuff, and will check out Sibilebashir.

>>9471897
For Kiryu, listen to these songs...
Kisai
Akai mi hajiketa
Kyuubi
Hyakki yakou
Amaterasu
Etsu to utsu

The first four that I listed are the heavy and dark ones.

>>9471897
And Sibilebashir doesn't have as many PVs being that they're newer, so just watch whatever PVs, and maybe their YouTube channel for their homemade dance routines/intentional public awkwardness/humorous videos.

Here's their PV for Nounai Black Doll
https://youtu.be/IHCs4HJ4nuM

>>9472020
I love it but I can't stand the vocalist...

>>9472033
Mahiro has an interesting voice. It took a while for him to grow on me, but now I love it. They have such a wide discography so there is a lot to listen to.

Just got my results for the Rose Fes ticket lottery. I got a super low number!! So excited for this concert. Any other gulls in Tokyo going?

>>9472033
>>9472037
Think of it this way, he's taking the vocal flips of traditional Japanese music and making using them in a frightening way.
He's an acquired taste, but I find his voice to be emotive and beautiful.

>>9471783
Purple Stone is pretty good. Panic Panic was a great song. I enjoy the Sound Bee HD, but Daisuke has a voice that you either love or you don't. Also Matenrou Opera, you cant go wrong with Sono.

>>9472339
Daisuke has golden pipes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQv5LYiY_uI

I forgot how much I liked this band.

>>9472372
I'm happy I'm not the only one who thinks so.

>>9474293
Is You the best woman in visual kei?

I miss Juka.

>>9471783
Liphlich is great

>>9472033
I can see that, Mahiro is a voice some people have to warm up to. But yeah, like >>9472037
said, they have a lot of variety in their music. Some songs might sound better to you than others with the vocals.

>>9471783
Try Minus Jin-Say Orchestra. They have some really catchy songs!

>>9475796
Not that anon, but hey this is pretty good! Also I was subbed to them without knowing it, lol.

>>9471776
Another band that doesn't sound like anyone else is UNDER FALL JUSTICE. However, some of their songs sound very similar to eachother, especially with the piano riffs. But for me, that's a good thing, because I really love their sound.

>>9473413
I liked Brain Hacker a lot more than Art Cube.
I wonder what happened to Kazune, that guy was very talented (I think he was the main songwriter in both BH and Art Cube).
He was also the keyboardist on Malice Mizer during their Klaha era. He wasn't an official member but his name appears on the CD credits and he did live support as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kf25f9cPMg
I like how groovy they sound.

My RarezHut mail arrived! How'd I do?

>>9476577
Who is the bottom left? I have a bad habit of buying CD's when the album art is cool.

>>9476598
That's Merry. They are very cool.

>>9476577
>freeza
Pretty awesome find, I couldn't find that one in CD Japan. These are numbered, right? What number did you get?
>La premiere porte
That's the single version with the 2 karaoke tracks and the pop-up packaging, right? Love pleur, cute band.

>jakura demos
Pretty cool.

>Misa solo tape
I own this one! Is it the white tape version you got?

Don't know the rest. What are these CD-Rs on the top?

>>9476863
>>9476577 #

>Pretty awesome find, I couldn't find that one in CD Japan. These are numbered, right? What number did you get?

Yeah, I just recently got into KK but I've known about them for a while. I'm not sure about the number, I'll check when I get home.

>That's the single version with the 2 karaoke tracks and the pop-up packaging, right? Love pleur, cute band.

I really don't know what it comes with, I'll check at home.

>Pretty cool.
I love Jakura, they were amazing.

>I own this one! Is it the white tape version you got?

Like that casette itself? I think it's black.

>Don't know the rest. What are these CD-Rs on the top?

The rest are these, left to right bottom row, Nu Chemical Rhetoric by Merry (it's Limited Edition with a DVD too), Fable In The Cold Bed (Type B) by NEGA, and Mind Park by Sister's No Future (a project by Kenzi and Dynamite Tommy)

>>9476577
Im happy to see other people buying from Rarezhut! Im excited for their next auction. I have my eye on a few things.

>>9477040
I love RarezHut, it's a dream come true for people like us.
That's an IRL auction, right?

>>9477567
No its an online auction. They set up a stream and will show you the item to bid on. Most start at $1. They will also do a lot of giveaway's. I think its every $200. Its a pretty cool way to get good music and talk to fellow fans.

>>9477612
Oh damn that sounds like a blast. When is the next one?

>>9476577
>klein kaiser
>misa

jelly

>>9478521
They were like $4 each, get some, dont be jelly ;)

>>9477984
All days start at 11AM MDT/1PM EDT/5PM MST
SATURDAY AND SUNDAY JUNE 3-4
SATURDAY AND SUNDAY JUNE 10-11

They have a link to the auction list and events pages for it. Its right under the goods/misc tab on the side.

>>9478631
Thaaanks, I'll go to the site

>>9478624
Really? that's so cheap, Misa stuff should be higher!
Anyway, I don't have a way to buy in that site because I'm not from USA and don't have a credit card/paypal :(

>>9479351
Oh damn, sorry to hear. Well, if they aren't on YouTube, maybe I'll upload them. (Not monetized of course)

>>9479351
They do ship outside the USA. If your in Europe they have hubs that really reduce shipping prices.

Who is this?

>>9453225
>there could be a small chance of a reunion with the original lineup.
That would be a dream coming true for me. Hope if that happens they make a DVD of it, like Kamijo did for his original line-up Lareine reunion.

>>9480146
Thats the new band fesFE[M]

They have one PV on youtube right now
https://youtu.be/2or2IqpUDOU

>>9479356
Thanks for the offering! But I already have Freeza in mp3 (although if you'd like to rip it in higher quality that'd be cool, I think my mp3s are 128kpbs).
Misa's solo album was posted in one of these threads, that's how I got into him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMQZlPAuuXM
>>9479534
Thank you but my problem isn't the shipping, but that I don't have a way to pay online.

>>9473413
>>9476503
Art Cube was the exact same guys from Brain Hacker, but they changed their music and visual direction kinda drastically. It was still good though, but I agree that BH had more groove to it, it was less goth and more rock.
Seiji has also changed quite a bit over the years, when he was younger his looks were tamer, and he had this elegant prince look to him. Well, in After Image he had the crazy red hairdo and the eyepatch, looked kinda like he does in Moi dix Mois, but in Amadeus his looks were elegant and boyish, in BH his looks became wilder, started using really short shorts and showing his tummy (where he had, and probably still has, the "Brain Hacker" tattoo). Then in Art Cube he started doing more heavy visuals and dressing in more feminine attire, with corsets and wigs, in total drag like Kaya.
He's full on drag in his new band Shapeshifter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlE1TT1Kjo
The snake tongue thing he does is a bit unsettling
and lol @ the guitarist in maetel cosplay

>>9483669
What sucks is that ShapeShifter is disbanding after their live on September 29th.

>>9484058
In typical VK fashion.
At least he will still work with mana, here's hoping that new m10m album finally gets done and released.
If you asked me, what I'd really like to see is an Amadeus revival.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkdMeGr95Gc

>>9484115
Wow, I have never seen that Amadeus video, in fact I think the only Amadeus video I ever saw was a short clip back then.
Amadeus was always one of my favorite bands with a neo classical sound, but their stuff was hard to come by, especially their videos.
Catching up with this I now see there's a bunch of videos on youtube, this is sort of like a nostalgic moment when I get to finally see one of my old fav bands live, at least on video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXxZ82sqPyw

>>9486620
I find amusing how his extensions aren't matching the rest of his hair lately

Anyone know what happened to the number 1 Kamijo fangirl, Jennifer/inertia? She kinda disappeared.

>>9489661
I noticed that as well. Its pretty funny in all honesty.

>>9489661
Still would. Teru is always first choice though.

>>9490727
That's exactly why I think the darker/strawberry blonde works better for him, or at least seem to last more on him.
>>9490781
>Still would
Same.

>>9490606
Busy with life I guess, she still posts on her social media, though.
>tfw bonjourhoney will never be up again

>>9491021
>Busy with life I guess, she still posts on her social media, though.
Good to know she's still alive, is she still married with Emmet?

>>9491137
No idea there, I never talked to her directly besides a couple of posts on bonjourhoney, and we never got to talk about personal stuff. Sometimes I would like to message her or something, since I basically lost contact with everyone on the forums after it died, but I'm afraid it could be creepy as fuck, so I probably will never do it.

>>9492291
I thought they were done?

Where do people sell their CDs and goods they no longer want these days? When livejournal died I posted them in the Facebook sales groups for a while but those seem fairly dead now too. Would it be worth it to reactivate my old eBay account?
I just want to get rid of things but I'm also not quite at the point where I don't mind selling them to closet child for 10~100yen a piece...

>>9492871
When I want to sell my CD's I use the Visual Kei & J-Rock Sales group. It works pretty well if you have stuff people want.

>>9492871
What do you have? I might be interested

>>9492871
I might also be interested in some stuff.

Remember when "Neo Art Malice Mizer" used the Evangelion design title for one of their flyers?

Does anyone know where to find visual kei bars and goth clubs in tokyo? I found a guide from la carmina but it's old.

>>9495321
I didn't know about La carmina, but I just checked and I was gonna recommend one of the bars they mention, Gellonimo.
It's a very tiny place, but it's kind of a cult place, I know a lot of bandomen hang out there (or used to, years ago, not sure how it is right now), and the owner of the bar is also the vocalist and leader of the band Gellonimo (yeah, called same as the bar).
It's a comfy place full of posters and flyers on the walls. It might be a bit old fashioned but maybe that's your thing. Either way, I say go, it's a classic place for VK enthusiasts.

>>9495353
la carmina used to be an efamous ita, now no one cares about her anymore. but she has some useful information

>>9495353
That looks really cool and cozy btw

>>9500018
Lately I've been getting into Michiru Project and Aioria (thanks to this thread), Hiroki was a drummer there, so cool.

One of my fave bands from back in the day was Mesumerian which the internet has seemingly forgot about, which sucks. At least I still have their CD.

>>9495353
Fucking jelly, look at that Luna Sea poster for Mother! That one must cost a fortune.
And right above it is a rare Da'vid shito al flyer.

>>9476503
>>9473413
Love this band so much, I saw them in Tokyo back in 2004, bought their E.P., I still listen it every now and then.
One of their best songs imo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM2LY83brbw

Versailles announced their "World Tour". Once again no US dates are included.

Sep 2, Sat / El Plaza Condesa (Mexico)
Sep 6, Wed / Teatro Vorterix (Argentina)
Sep 9, Sat / Carioca Club (Brazil)
Oct 15, Sun / Music Zone (Hong Kong)
Oct 28, Sat / Syntrend Clapper Studio (Taiwan)

>>9508329
Kamijo, you cunt, we treated you so well

LM.C was announced as the musical guest of honor for Animefest Dallas. I might try to go down to see them. The last time they were announced for a con they had to cancel because of the swine flu

>>9510113
I heard they can't get a visa

>>9513160
We may never know exactly why they wont tour the US anymore. It just sucks for the fans who have been waiting to see them.

>>9510779
This is false, they preformed the year after they had to cancel Akon at Fanime.

>>9510113
Since when is Kamijo not a cunt tho

Just wanted to drop in and tell all swedish visual kei fans to attend the reopening of the vk nightclub Lunacy on september 1st!

Matenrou Opera cancelled European tour due "safety issues". Only few weeks were left and apparently booking fees won't be refunded. I knew b7 klan sucked already but wow.

kisou-era Deg was so wicked

>>9515132
He's not, I was teasing.

>>9521092
Don't blame B7Klan, blame the good ol' religion of peace for blowing up Europe.

>>9521423
Absolutely.

Anyone know of any online site where I can purchase Da'vid's mini-album?
I tried CD Japan and Rarezhut, but they don't have it in stock.

>>9521561
I've heard both sides. Some believe it was terrorism and safety concerns that made them cancel, but then again others think its B7klan. This wouldn't be the first time B7klan cancels a tour a few weeks before its to begin.
I think it was just a perfect storm of things, from the safety concerns to unprofessional staff.

>>9521556
>He's not

Debatable.

>>9521561
I heard there was an issue with the promotors and b7klan was looking for an excuse to cancel due to low ticket sales

>>9521733
I've never heard of him doing anything cuntish, and he was nice to us when I did VIP at his show, so in my book, he's not.

>>9524167
Things sure have changed.

>>9524299
And Kenji Ohtsuki is still awesome

>>9524494
Hell yeah.

SU MI REEE

Outside of here, the visual kei fans I've met have all been disgusting people. Where do I meet good fans? Is this fanbase just rotten to the core in the West?

>>9528494
Well, I think that's not something exclusive to "vk fans", people in general is shit.
My problem with VK has always been that most fans are girls that went from listening to boy bands to visual kei with death metal sound, like I don't really think they like the music, and are just in for the looks, I've confirmed this numerous times.
Anyway it all went full circle because in the end most of these people ended up liking K-pop boy bands.
That said, I've met some cool people that like VK or japanese rock, so it's not totally impossible.
As for where to find them, I met them online, some of them from my country so I could meet IRL, and some others from other countries.

>>9528541
I get what you mean, it's really hard to find people that really like the sound aside from the looks. I know the visuals are part of the music but if it doesn't sound good I can't even bother looking at the visuals.

>>9528541
>>9528783
You guys are great, thanks for your words of encouragement, and for corroborating my feelings.

>>9528541
I'm sort of guilty for this? I went from Jpop to Miyavi, Malice Mizer, and Dir en Grey off the visuals alone but the music quickly followed. From there I got into the big 2000's groups but Jrock stuff has always been so hard to find. I only found Malice Mizer because of a misnamed torrent back in the day that said "Dir en grey and Malice Mizer live" and when I got it, it was Illuminati live with Diru nowhere in sight.

When kpop got big it became accessable, more so than VK so with DBSK and the TRAX (who collabed with Yoshiki) looking VK at the time, I went with what I could easily get a hold of because back then they sounded sort of rock-ish.

Of course the kpop scene has changed since then and hell, the VK scene has gotten more underground and even harder to find only because Japan isn't that media-friendly for foreigners. it's near impossible to find live-airing music shows in Japan just on a stream when Korea makes websites just to help foreign fans out so they can watch and interact with the shows.

>>9528783
Im the same way. If a band does not sound good, then I wont listen to it. The band can look amazing, but if they are not talented I wont give them the time. Their are many talented bands out there if you dig deep enough!

Blam Honey is godly

>>9504131
What did they sound like?

From Kyo's second poem book

TADACy EYE(S)

>>9534087

>>9534091

>>9534094
Tadashi Iwanaga, better known as TADACy/tadacy, is one lf the vocalists of the angura kei metal band TADACy EYE(S). He's also a visual kei DJ, a multi-medium visual artist, and fashion designer for such brands as NUDE N' RUDE, Dangerous nude A&革命, Techno Break, and SEX POT TOKYO.

>>9534084
Kyo looks a lot like Kozi on that pic.

>>9533072
Finally someone that knows them!Too bad there are so few industrial/darker electro vk projects. I'm not a big fan of death metal or cheesy rock/metal styles that are common with vk. Maybe it's because goth and the rivethead scene is really small in Japan from what I heard.

>>9532178
damm this legs .... <3

Anybody listened to Project to Evil? The new band by Kazuno (ex-Moi dix Mois) and Tohru (ex-Merry Go Round, Of-J, JILS, Moi dix Mois, and more)
Quite nice that these guys returned to being in a band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxzGSfMTkw
Sounds like old fashioned metal, but I'm really digging it. Always good to hear Tohru's drumming.
Their first single includes a huge list of "special thanks", including Malice Mizer, Moi dix Mois, JILS and many vk scene personalities such as Kisaki, Misa, Jasmine You (;_;), Aki, Yoshinori Sugimoto, etc.
Really cool to see all these names on there.
Yukiya and Shun (both ex-JILS) also helped on the production of the CD.

Only 3 weeks until Rose Fes. Will I see any other gull bangya there?

>>9540670
What is that?

>>9540702
Kamijo's all day birthday concert special.
Versailles, Jupiter, Matenrou Opera, Cross Vein, David, Purple Stone, and a number of others.

>>9540670
>>9540939
I would, if I was in Japan.

>>9540670
If I was in Japan I would go.
I'm a huge fan of most of the bands on that list.

>>9540939
Is Kaya involved?

>>9545034
Not performing as far as I'm aware. I wouldn't be surprised if he came plain-clothes as a guest though. If you're good friends with a band you typically get backstage privileges, especially if you're another well known performer.

>>9545034
I dont think Kaya will be involved. After him suddenly leaving Kamijo's label and cancelling all singles that they were going to release, I dont see them working together again any time soon.

Are the muscular/macho visual kei artists?

>>9551248
Sometimes it's hard to tell because many VK guys don't really showhow they are themselves in private life, and the whole VK imagery is an act, not a lifestyle, but it's safe to assume most of them don't fit into the "macho" stereotype.
There are many ones that are ripped, like Kyo from DEG, or Hiroki from D, but they're just ripped, otherwise they are skinny, not muscular. Can't really think of an actual muscular guy in VK, but I'm sure there are.
Otherwise you have bigger guys like Misa, who also I think has a very "macho" attitude in general (and this is funny when you have into consideration it's the same guy wearing that zebra outfit on OP's pic).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrhc32lUmjw
When you see how he walks, talks, etc, you can tell he's very confident and, well, alpha. The other guys are more submissive and shy.
Watch the last part of that video when they're in the arcade games, Misa just destroys the kicking and boxing games (he's obviously trained in martial arts, judging from his moves), and then you see the other guys try and its like, lol.

>>9551302
I see what you mean, he does have alpha characters.
But yeah, I mean muscular, a brute and rough while being cute.

>>9551327
characteristics*

>>9551327
Yeah, sorry, I can't think of any, again I can think of many guys that are ripped, or bigger boned guys, but not guys that are actually muscular and portray a VK image.

>>9551248
Hiro from nocturnal bloodlust is pretty vk and ripped. Then we have Gackt I guess, his body is pretty damn muscular. Hakuei has a pretty good body too.

>>9551722
Hakuei has an amazing body. He shows it off in the Litchi Hikari Club PV for True Heaven.

But other than those three I cant really think of anyone who is ripped in the VK scene. I know a lot of them workout, but they arent exactly "ripped".

>>9552470
>>9551722
anyway there's a difference between being ripped and actually having a muscular body.
I think what >>9551248 is asking is if there's any guy in VK that has a body type like, say, Vin Diesel, but also dress up in VK attire.

>>9552539
Ah I see, sorry my bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F143kJea2tw

Years go by, and Malice Mizer is still my favorite band.
This song is timeless.

>>9551302
>BABYLON
I love them, do you happen to have good quality rips of their stuff?
Only managed to find their best of album (Clan Gene) but some of the tracks have audio issues.

>>9547637
I didn't even know this, why did he do that?

>>9555417
Kamijo is a pain to work with?

>>9555417
Nobody is really sure what happened. All that was said was that is was due to "both personal and professional decisions". Rumors were floating around that Kamijo was just a pain and wouldn't let Kaya do what he wanted. And then others said Kaya was to much of a diva. I don't think we will ever get a real answer as to what happened.

>>9528541
>>9529900
You should appreciate the progression from jpop to vkei opening people's minds to gothic music, it's what Mana does:
http://www.mana-sama.net/DAZZLE1.html

-- Mana-san's fans must be like that as well [liking gothic things since birth].
>"I think there are even more people like that in this world. Actually, I think there are probably some people who haven't even noticed it about themselves yet. The normal thing is to listen to J-POP, but actually if they haven't touched on anything else in this world they don't know. For example if they came in contact with my music I think they might receive a bit of a shock and be able to empathize with it and then those people might come into this kind of world."
-- Whats the difference between people who can empathize and those who cannot?
>"Those who have already made up their minds about such things. In the Gothic world vampires are used as a symbol, but I think its a world where things similar to that kind of species are naturally placed together."
-- If someone were to come into contact with gothic type things for the first time, what would you recommend to them?
>"I think it would be great if they could start out with my music. I receive letters from people saying things like "I've only listened to J-POP up until now, but once I came in contact with Mana-Sama's music I was shocked that music like this was out there and I really liked it." I want to expand that kind of thing even more."
--The kinds of people we were talking about before could even find themselves bridging over into to thinking about something different that they never may have noticed before, don't you think.
>"Human beings tend to dislike things before ever giving it a chance; it could be food or anything. ... I think for humans, having a preconception is the worst thing you could do."

>>9556878
The weird thing is that I've seen it the other way around (and K-pop, not J-pop).
A lot of girls I know went from american pop, to visual kei, to k-pop.
It's like vk was just a phase for them.

>>9556905
That also happened to a lot of my friends. They used to be huge VK fans, and we got go to concerts together. But as soon as Kpop started to get popular they ditched VK. It was just a phase and then they went onto the next best thing. I'm wondering what they will get into after Kpop dies down a bit.

>>9556905
>>9558075
You know, seeing it like this it makes me wonder if these guys are just Asian fetishists. Like, they are only fans because of the hot guys, when some other music with hot guys becomes more accessible they will switch to that.

>>9554849
I have the Clan Gene album and Garnet Children, I'll rip them for you if you want.

>>9558077
Thats what I believe. I've seen way to many people say they are in the scene because of how the band members look. And when you try and show them other music they will refuse to listen to it because its not Japanese.

>>9556905
>>9558075
>>9558077
A lot of younger people tend to do that, switch from one interest from another.
I'm sure that how cute the guys are has a lot to do with it.
I'm not going to lie, VK guys are really attractive, but I also love the music even more. I think both play a part, but to many people it's just the appearance.
VK bands were the first bands to ever connect with me, I switched around a lot too. It's been years and I'm still staying strong with VK.
I had a few friends in the past who also loved VK, talked about how hot they were, etc. etc. and once something else caught their eye, they ditched everything that was VK.
Unfortunate.

>>9559686
I'm the same way. I've been in the scene for so damn long. I've seen people come into the scene only for the looks, and as soon as something new came around they would leave it just as quickly as they entered it.

Did anyone see Avanchick tonight at Tokyo in Tulsa? How did they do? I wanted to go but couldn't afford the trip.

>>9559686
I've noticed that younger fans seem to take the love for VK and band men to far. I've seen the members being stalked at cons. Like fans would just show up and refuse to leave. They would follow them all around the con and keep taking pictures even though they were asked to stop. I guess it got so bad for one band they refused to leave Japan again.

>>9563124
Wtf, the con should have laid on security.

>>9558148
Sorry for the late response and yesssss! pretty please, I'd love good rips of those!

I dont like aramejapan but I learned some new things from this http://aramajapan.com/aramaexclusive/meet-seon-thomas-visual-kei-insider-model-and-artist-in-tokyo/76708/
Though I also think he sounds like he is still ignorant about some things. What do you think?

>>9565877
I didn't find it particularly interesting, there has been other foreigners that were "insiders" in the indie scene. Anyone remember Cam from Glam Japan?
Or Go from jrocknyc (never liked him too much though).

>>9563124
A lot of VK fans in general are fucking insane. It's no better than the sasaeng fans of kpop.
Japanese bangya are vicious snake bitches, and western fangirls are creepy obsessive stalkers. Of course, many VK fans are completely normal, but the ones who get really into it? They're crazy.
I knew a girl on Instagram who was in love with one of the members of Kiryu, she called him her 'prince' and various names like that. She also had a shrine dedicated to him. Weird shit.
>>9562231
I didn't see them but I did see some footage of them performing, it seems they did alright.

>>9508329
i saw Versailles live in the uk

Chisa is back! With shogo too.
https://youtu.be/TNnumYxYm7E

>>9566311
Chobi and Satoshi has announced that they're starting a band too. I think I understand why DIV disbanded. China and Shogo has a much brighter and colorful concept compared to Chobi and Satoshi's new duo.

>>9565909
I don't remember them. OT but I remember how many Americans were pissed off about Becky so that was relatable.

>>9566311
Wow this sounds great

>>9566966
yeah i agree

>>9565915
In the past everybody had a friend that was obsessed or in love with gackt, now everyone has a friend that is obsessed or in love with kamijo.
>mfw i feel old