/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

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I like the more classy styles, ott sweet feels like a clusterfuck to me now that I'm older

This thread is comfier than the comfy thread. Thank you, OP.

>>9431914
I actually love full sets, I don't see what's wrong with sticking to a brand's vision of what looks best with the dress. I enjoy creative coords as well but it's not like full sets are bad.

This is the kind of lolita I like. I can see myself actually wearing this and wearing it long term. Is it really that boring?

>>9432045
Compared to what's popular today you can say it's boring in its simplicity. I love it though, and plenty more people do as well. It won't get you many likes on social media but it's very nice for daily wear.

Requesting instagrams of people who wear lolita in this style. I'm tired of OTT in my feed and this makes me happy.

I love these kinds of coords. Perfectly coordinated elaborate outfits may look great at your local con or meet or in a CoF post, but this style is actually wearable.
This looks like my daily outfits, even if mine are usually a bit more coordinated than some of these. But it's more comfy and easy to wear in daily life that ott vomit and in my opinion this is the truly "street fashion" aspect of lolita.

>>9432085
obsixwi
ferriswheelflight
josinemaaike
sweetexpedition
kingcat1203
junie_green
queran_ruffles
riotkitty_

Some of my favorites who mostly post lolita or otome

>>9431917
That's not boring/basic imo I mean look at that dress and the size of that headwear anon

>tfw friends love OTT especially sweet and gothic
>just love simple sweet and wear things like >>9431917 and
>>9431930
>constantly affraid of being called boring
>see this thread
>instantly feels better

dumping what i have

>>9432237
Though OP's instructions are contradictory, someone can't be wearing a "full set" without legwear or headwear, and socks and a headbow aren't OTT, they're basic staples of Lolita.

People who hate OTT coordinates need to get the stick out of their ass and stop whining about OTT coords being more popular/getting more attention. Just wear what you want, who cares about online feedback?

>>9432237
This is such a cool location, makes me miss living in the countryside. Every safe place to get cool photos in the city is surrounded by crowds of gawkers.

>>9432239

oh, I just realized that some of these might lean more toward otome-kei though.

>>9432237
Aw. I kind of miss seeing faunkegan in lolita coords.

>>9432153
Same.

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>>9432257
She has wigs on here so by OP's rules these are too OTT

Here is some natural hair Shelby

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>>9432239
I hate OTT but I don't care about popularity. I just feel that it strays from the street fashion intent

>>9432278
This is NOT casual. Not very good, either, just a basic coord. Plenty of jewelry and accessories, a nice sweet blouse
. Also I don't care what elements someone leaves out as long as the poof is right for the skirt. This one is sadly limp

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>>9432287
>This is NOT casual. Not very good, either, just a basic coord
>basic coord
Did you read what thread you were in or???

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>>9432316
Dress sauce?

>>9432338
Ap Lady Gingham JSK
https://lolibrary.org/items/ap-lady-gingham-jsk

>>9432344
Ty anon!

>>9432244
Tbh otome kei is not real

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>>9432587
This, otome is something made up by lolitas in the west to distinguish between what they consider "proper" (COF likes-worthy) lolita and more wearable styles that are more playful and less restrictive. In Japan it all blends together more. Misako calls the more wearable style soft lolita, but the brands themselves don't always feel comfortable associating with the word lolita because of the stigma against it.

If OP wants to see comfy lolita with natural hair that isn't coordinated to the hilt, posting "otome" is going to be inevitable.

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>>9432262
I don't think they are rules, just guidelines. If they were all requirements she wouldn't have posted some of the coords she did.

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I often see Japanese girls wearing black shoes with a white dress but do you think it would still look good with blond hair?
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>>9431914
I love casual Lolita, "boring", simplistic, old school (gothic, sweet& classic), and toned down coords.
I've been loving that for 12 years now, never been fond of the OTT rage.

So thank you OP for making this thread!
I'll dump some images now.

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>>9432692
Sure. It's not matching your shoes to your hair as it is simply using a basic color in a coord, and you can always balance it out with a black headbow and purse if you really want.

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>>9432139
some of those mentioned do pretty ott though

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>>9432694
This is cute! And I love this kind of shoes. Does Anyone know if it has an specific name?

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>>9432743
You're rarely going to get anyone who does exclusively basic coords, but at least these ones post often and do post their more basic ones
A lot of the other lolitas I follow only post their pictures of their most OTT coords or have lots of other random posts thrown in

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>>9432762
my fav

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>>9432297
Aw this is so cute!

>>9432045
I don't think lolita ever looks boring. A t-shirt and jeans looks boring. But a lot of these coords would be called boring in the CoF thread.

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These all make my heart go doki doki

>>9432593
Western Lolita's used the term Otome way before CoF was a thing. The daily otome community on livejournal was made in 2010. I can find posts about it on egl as far back as 2008.

It wasn't made because of OTT Lolita superiority, the term was coined to reference coordinate made from brands like Jane Marple and Emily Temple Cute that weren't really in the Lolita aesthetic, and because JM didn't consider itself a Lolita brand.

>>9432752
Where is her skirt from? It's so pretty

This entire thread is so nostalgic

>>9432301
something about this dress just hits me in all the right spots. Anyone know what brand it is?

>>9432802
Before COF there was daily_lolita.

>>9432833
Both Mary Magdalene and Victorian Maiden have made very similar dresses. I think this is the MM St Clair OP.

I personally really hate prints so I do like more basic coords like >>9432244 or >>9431917

>>9432836
Yeah, I'm aware, and people posted their casual and Otome coordinates to D_L.

>>9432085
Fukaiumino_ao
Homemiro
Lovelylaceandlies
Nimu_vmpress
Mihomatsuda_official
Misakoaoki
Bloodstreamh2
Artdunoir
Walnuttcookie
Bisque_d0ll
Rememberdolls
Miss.strawberryjam
Maijuline
Whatcaitlindid
Maaileworld
Lerisch
Mayfaringtoo
Pinkgothduplica
Generally lolita comm's in warm countries dress more casual.

>>9432802
This is true, but it's not really how otome is used nowadays. Otome was also used in Japan, both to describe girly fashion and lolita fashion, but nowadays they seem to use it for the RPG games.

>>9432804
Why does it make you feel nostalgic? Nearly all coords I posted are from this year or last year. She didn't list the brand of the skirt I think, or I don't remember.

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>>9432139
Bless you two

>>9432804
Its VM's Antique Card.

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>>9431928
What dress is this? (important for my amazoness-tier shoulders to know)

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Really old dress from moitie, also comes in black x white and long

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Back to dump some more!

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>tfw you will never own romantic frill

>>9432954
Thanks! Hope i'll find that on mercari someday

>>9432239
I don't see OTT get much hate, most people who complain about it actually love OTT but are just tired of it. OP didn't even say anything negative about OTT.

>>9432687
I adore this dress

>>9432934
Would this be considered actual casual lolita?

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>>9432985
The AP clones might have influenced the OTT trend but they wore full sets and apart from their wigs, the outfits are plain.

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>>9432988
This is still OTT tough. Maybe they are not wearing a lot of (big) accessories but the prints themselves are already pretty busy.

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>>9432239
Having people post online their basic coords is useful as inspo

>>9432839
Confirming this is MM St Clair, VM's Classical Doll has an extra layer of lace on the bottom of the skirt and utilizes a waist belt that encircles front and back as opposed to back waist ties like MM. Also VM's neck accessory is a separate jabot that has the ribbon pinned to it while MM's is just a ribbon on its own.

For those of us with arms that are bigger than a noodle, VM is a much easier dress to wear because the sleeve width on the MM version is tiny.

Also I love the shit out of this thread, everything's how I want to live in lolita.

This thread reminded me of this old blog post http://egl.livejournal.com/17979953.html

This is one of my favorite threads ever on cgl, thank you so much for all this inspiration anons!

>>9432763
What's her name/username? I've seen this picture of her so many times but not others

>>9432991
Not OTT anon. This is just sweet Lolita.

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ntayrt, but the "feeling" of this outfit is really busy, although strictly speaking they aren't OTT. These outfits don't feel like they were thrown on quickly. The printed tights, large headbows and accessories (it looks they all have a bracelet and necklace on) make the outfits seem too busy to fit OP's criteria. Nothing wrong these coords but I wouldn't call them basic or casual.

>>9433046
Oh god she should have unplugged the lamp before taking this photo.
>hold on girls I gotta plug my ass in and recharge

>>9433074
I have never noticed that before. How unfortunate!

>>9433070
they're not casual but they are basic. And they match OP's description of full sets

>>9433080
Yeah I agree, if they are full sets with a busy print it doesn't look basic but it's not like you have to spend time planning your coord, thinking about what to wear with your dress

>>9433070
Would they be kote tough?

>>9431914
I like them, I think they are cute. Often better than "overdressed" ones

>>9431920
I love this and I want those shoes. Does anyone know who this girl is?

In general I love coords like these because this is the type of lolita I wear when I go out normally and it inspires me more than photoshoot-ready magazine coords and the like.

>>9432325
Basic coords are not casual though, this thread is dumb af. I was hoping to get cute casual inspo since I'm a lone lolita and like to incorporate it into my daily wear.

>>9433288
It's not a casual lolita thread, walnut. So sorry it didn't fit what you were looking for. This is a thread for basic lolita coords that OTTs call casual. It even says in the OP

>>9433288
You can always use Google, honey.

Fancy Melody (SamSam) made some noice casual coords. Too bad she became full normie now

Also I love this thread so much

Another coord with the She Is Sleeping

And posting a last fave coord of hers

>>9432687
Wow, sauce on this dress?

>>9433495
Sheglit

>>9431939
I feel a bonnet instantly makes a coord lose its casual feel.

>>9433782
seconded
casual, to me, is stuff that is both comfy, somewhat practical and won't make normies loose their shit. A bonnet is neither.

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Not anon who posted it, just thought it'd be interesting to bring up that a coord can be "basic lolita", and not OTT, while at the same time not casual enough to be casual lolita.

A simple bonnet with a onepiece would fit right into the former, imo.

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>>9433812
This is not a casual lolita thread. A bonnet you bought takes little to no effort to put on.

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>>9433812
This is not a casual lolita thread. A bonnet you bought takes little to no effort to put on. For a lolita, a bonnet is normal.

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>open toed shoes
please don't do this

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I think it's cute when it's hot outside and your nails are done

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>>9433909
Why not? It's true they don't work in every coord but in those two they look fine.

For some reason I find it much easier to find basic coords from Japanese and Korean girls, whereas US lolita's are the most OTT. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places.

>>9433914
basically what >>9433913 said like the girl on the left here >>9432974 has open toe shoes but because they're cute and her toes aren't noticeable it's not as bad as the other two
in the first one the toes are distracting imo and both coords just don't look as good as they would with closed toe shoes. both of them have the wrong style to match lolita

>>9433926
I love the coord but the hair is so ugly

>>9432287
Not very good? The point of the thread is basic coords. This is a basic coord where everything matches. It doesn't go above and beyond with creativity, it just looks nice and is wearable. That's the point of this thread.

>>9433288
Summer came very soon this year I guess~

I think OTT lolita is not as popular as we think. It may seem that way because when you go to an event, most people are dressed pretty OTT. But whenever there is a favourite coords thread, OTT is not the majority.
However, I also think people are less likely to buy solid dresses from a brand directly, they feel like if they're going to spend so much on a dress it better be a popular print or you could just get it secondhand for cheaper. Maybe that's why Baby, AP and taobao focus much more on prints than cuts.

>>9433973
>people are less likely to buy solid dresses from a brand directly
Depends on whom you ask. IW's solids are very popular for daily wear and can be difficult to find secondhand because girls tend to hold on to them. I've bought and reserved solid dresses from IW in the past because I'd rather not take the risk of not finding them secondhand later. Never regretted it, either.

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This oh so much. IW have a lot of versatility to their pieces, and can be worn in different styles, as well as being dressed upmore or down. I've mixed bits of IW into workwear in the past, such as a very simple, non-print skirt with only a small amount of lace on it and received nothing but compliments on it. I've also reserved stuff from them as soon as the reservations have gone up and never regretted the purchases, even when I've seen the item go into the sale later on. IW pieces wash well, and even with more delicate fabrics such as the pearskiin they sometimes have used has a robustness to it it feels.

>>9434003
IW isn't as popular as baby and ap tough, they used to sell a lot more dresses and skirts in different cuts

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>>9434003
IW isn't as popular as Baby and AP tough, they used to sell a lot more solid dresses and skirts in different cuts. JetJ too. I'm not familiar enough with old IW releases to know if they release more prints now or have less variety in cuts.

>>9433973
I'm sad about this. There's barely any prints I like and it's nigh impossible to find a specific non-print dress secondhand. I think people cycle through prints a lot more than they do solid pieces, since solid pieces are easier to wear/match to your wardrobe and also less attention grabbing to normies but they probably do sell less in total.

>>9433973
I'll be honest, that's my exact thought process. Solids go for reeeally cheap since sellers know/think they won't sell as fast as prints and paying retail for a solid piece doesn't seem "worth it" when I can get something more detailed and decorated for about the same price. I feel the same way about patterns even though I love them and solids.

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dropped pic - _ -

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>>9432036
I think full sets get a kind of bad rap (?) in places like daily Lolita or CoF, they're places to share your creativity and can come off as showing off your full set, or a lack of creativity? I don't think anyone sees anything wrong with wearing the full set. it's like a trophy and is guaranteed to look good... but maybe not very creative, and that's where the stigma comes

>>9434396
CoF initially is not to show off creative coords tough, just any lolita coords. But now when you look at it it's mainly what people wore to a meet or event. However all the "creativity" actually makes it feel boring to me and it feels refreshing when someone posts a basic coord or full set.

>>9434396
CoF initially is not to show off creative coords tough, just any lolita coords. But now when you look at it it's mainly what people wore to a meet or event. However all the "creativity" actually makes it feel boring to me and it feels refreshing when someone posts a basic coord or full set.
At daily lolita, people normally posted several coords at once, so you could see what they wore to meets as well as what they normally wear.

>>9433937

This is absolutely adorable

>>9432990

Love this

>>9432967

This is so lovely

>>9432265

I love how simple this is

>>9433973
This is true for me, as well as the fact that I'm into sewing and keep thinking that "oh, I can make something like that myself" but I never actually do! I don't really have the time or energy to churn out nice solid lolita pieces but the concept that I'd technically be able to, makes it much harder to justify paying ~$180 for a dress like that. I need to get over myself and start throwing more money at IW desu

>>9433814
Ahh, I see now. I get it, thanks for clarifying!

>>9432976
Just a heads up, but this piece is actually quite wanted by many Moitie loving Lolitas, so it could be hard to aquire.
I lost an auction for this about 1~2 years ago, it went over 30k (yen).
So if you are serious about this dress, I suggest you save up.

>>9433973
I can say this was definitely my logic when buying dresses from 2008-2013. I regret it now because I have no solid pieces and my wardrobe is only sweet prints.

>>9435754

so much of that bonbonmale fig girl. Self-posting much? like,, you left lolita already. lol just stop.

>>9436173
are you high, stupid, or both? At least reply to the person you're drunkenly replying to.
>>9435755
I wish I could see sweet lolita like this all the time

>>9436178

you sound maaad.

>>9436178

I mean who else would dig up those irrelevant photos? those are really old and no one actually remembers them. kinda narcissistic self-poster if you ask me.

>>9432145
I'm not sure if you own this dress or know about it but it's the most comfortable easy to wear OP ever and is definitely suitable for casual. You can put it on like a tshirt

>>9436182
>baiting this hard

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>>9433933
I'm so jelly of her tiny waist. And small bust She always looks amazing.

>>9431919
This is horrible. The styling doesn't match the OP at all. Would work better with classic-sweet.

>>9433372
Her other coords are cute but this is revolting

>>9435226
Seconding this. I'll fight a bitch for it.

>>9436261
You and me both, anon. She is the perfect lolita.

>>9436262
It's a gothic dress tough

>>9434309
Her hair looks amazing!

>>9436262
It needs more of a gothic styling to it rather than straight up classic. The colours as well don't work, it needs white, grey, or black rather than brown. White with touches of black would compliment a lot better. Her glasses just look dreadful, surprise surprise.

>>9433909
agreed, toes are unkawaii as fuck

>>9432982
Did she delete her tumblr?

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>>9436470
The styling isn't even classic or any other kind of lolita, it's completely normie. Certain dress details aside, this looks like something you'd see in a Modcloth customer spotlight. It's a shame because that's a beautiful dress.

>>9438169
No, it's etherealsunrise

>>9431914
I prefer this kind of lolita because it's actually a somewhat practical daily fashion. Lolita has gotten so OTT that it's not really functional as a fashion style, despite wearers' aggressive insistence that it's fashion.

>>9441655
Do you wear this? When are people aggressive to you about not seeing it as a fashion? On CoF people are more inclined to post what they wore to a meet or event and usually don't post their daily coords, and we end up having to defend ourselves to people who only see OTT.

>>9441254
I love skirts like this so much. They're so inherently lolita and recognisable as lolita no matter how you style them. They're so simple, but I've never seen anything like them in any other kind of fashion. Plus they're really easy to make!

does /cgl/ like sumipe?
does /cgl/ like any seiyuu?

>>9443481
cgl is full of people who are completely out of touch with who wears lolita in japan and how it's worn, they probably dont know who she is

>>9443481
OT but I like Shoko Nakagawa, she's cute.

Dumping some stuff I liked from tumblr

okay done dumping

>>9431926

I know that this is meant to be very basic lolita but the dress looks like a cheap sundress on her. It's a sad sight

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>>9443597
Come on, these are very traditional classic coords. They are not OTT but I wouldn't call them basic either.

>>9443582
Does anyone know what dress this is?

>>9443588
Still one of my favorites

>>9443592
I really admire the way this girl wears the fashion

>>9443622
Why not?