/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Gulls. I'm in love with Tarte's Make Believe in Yourself collection but I always buy my makeup with some sort of coupon or sale. Should I just bite the bullet and buy directly from their website (excluded from coupons) or go through Ulta where I can at least build some points and get some deluxe sized products with a $35 purchase?

>>9405785
I always buy through Sephora. I like cashing in my points for deluxe samples. Ulta is probably good too, I just never shop there for some reason.

>>9405797
ulta is better point wise because you actually get money off whatever you want for your points; the monetary value of 1000 ulta points far exceeds 1000 sephora points

>>9405785
i bought the brushes and eyeshadow through sephora. ulta is def better though

Not sure if this thread of skincare would be better for this question, but there isn't a skincare thread up right now, so here it goes.

Does anyone here have experience with self tanners? I'm doing a canon "beach episode" variant of a character for a shoot in a couple of months (so I have time to experiment) and want to look like I've actually been at the beach and not holed up inside watching anime. I'm usually around NC15 or 20 and don't want to get super dark, just enough to realistically have been in a bikini in the sun all day.

The only product I've tried is that Jergens gradual tanner everyone swears by, but it turns me more orange than I'd like. I've been looking at St. Moriz because it's generally well-reviewed and only $12 or so here, but I don't know if there are other brands that people have had good results with.

>>9405797
I like the option of choosing my deluxe sample and they have really good ones but at the same time I don't buy a lot of makeup too often so that doesn't feel like enough of a deal to me.

>>9405803
Agreed. Ulta always offers deluxe samples with certain purchases anyway so the monetary reward works better for me.

>>9405812
Those are the two I'm interested in. What are your thoughts? I've heard nothing but praise but I like hearing from non-sponsored people too.

Ulta has some free deluxe samples with a $35 purchase and I have $3 in rewards I can use so I think I'll just buy the palette for now since I have enough brushes.

What sort of makeup styles do you gulls usually do? I've been looking through YouTube to find some good makeup tutorials but there are so many different kinds and I'm still trying to find a style that I think would suit me best. Right now I'm watching a variety of videos and testing them out on myself to see.

Are there any Youtubers/styles that you prefer? Or does it depend on your cosplay/coord/etc?

i'm pretty new to makeup and bought a cheap ass set of brushes to practice with, but they're pretty awful. can you gulls recommend nice brush sets?

>>9406039
NYX, Elf, Bh Cosmetics, and Sonia Kashuk are good starter makeup brushes that are pretty affordable and good quality.

>>9406039
I would really recommend morphe. They're online only but they sell cheap brush sets that are pretty good quality!

>>9406032
>or does it depend on your cosplay/coord/etc?
For me it does. My everyday look is very basic but with a pop of color on the eyes. I don't contour or highlight, so I won't be much help there. I tend to cosplay younger characters which doesn't always warrant colored eyelids, so I just try to play up my natural features then.

I really like Wayne Goss for the basics then I like watching Tati or Laura Lee for eye makeup tutorials.

If a guy just wants smooth, blemish free skin, can he just use moisturizer + foundation?

thats what ive been using and its doing the job fine, but women seem to do all these autistic shit with toners, concealers, and multiple layers of random shit that don't make sense.

>>9406141
I assume you're using cleanser and just don't mention it.

It's fine. I use even lighter (BB cream instead of foundation) and a drunk woman recently went off on how "perfect" my skin is. You want your face to look like natural good skin, not like a girl's.

>>9406032
I like watching gothic youtube tutorials, since it's useful for finding the shades I like and finding out Western brands. I tend to go for a mix of Asian and Western styles, so a straight brow, no contour, blush under eyes, matte lip. It's kind of nice to have access to both styles so you can pick and choose, and adapt it to what you wear.

I'm on a liquid lipstick kick. What's everyone's favorites?

>>9406032
a protip for youtubers is to watch the ones that don't only explain what they are doing but also what people with different Features would do. (For example "I'm doing X with my eye but don't do it if you have hooded eyes")
Also try to find out what's your face/eye/lip shape and search for makeup tutorials that are meant for your Features.

You also don't have to copy whole Looks. try different eye techniques and compare them to eachother. Stick to the one that you like the best and then do the same for lips., cheeks, nose etc.

>>9405785
I bought the brushes and they're amazing. They're gorgeous and soooo sooo soft. The handles also have a decent amount of weight to them. I wanted some unicorn brushes but think the other indie brand's brushes were so cheap looking. These are great and imo a pretty good value for the set. It equates out to being something like 7.60 per brush.

>>9406141
Wash your fucking face and take care of your skin. Get a skin care routine down before you dabble into makeup. If you don't have a decent canvas, makeup won't do anything for you.

I've been seeing a lot of adds for the silicone beauty blenders, does anyone have any first hand experience with one?
How did you find it?

Can I ask why it seems you are mostly knowledgeable about makeup and use actual brushes but when I watch Lolita tutorials most seems to do shitty eyeshadow and use the sponge thing that comes with some makeup? I just want someone to do a tutorial where the eyeshadow isn't sweep sparkle brown/pink over eye and the look is like 90 per cent eyeliner/lashes/eye contacts.

>>9406252
Some people like them but most people seem to think it just piles the foundation on without actually blending it.

>>9406260
>e the sponge thing that comes with some makeup? I just want someone to do a tutorial where the eyeshadow isn't sweep sparkle brown/pink over eye and the look is like 90 per cent eyeliner/lashes/eye contacts.
Then you're better off not watching lolita tutorials.

>>9406141
>Wants advice
>Insults people he wants advice from

How's that working out for you, buddy?

>>9406252
they work exactly the same as if you used a bra insert because they are literally the same material. so you might as well just try it out with a bra insert to make your own decisions.

>>9406032

I'm a classic lolita. I do a blend of western and asian makeup techniques. I think most western techniques tend to be too dramatic for lolita. Asians on the other hand sometimes may not have dramatic enough eye makeup for me (kill me, I love my colors and shades), so I do a mix of the two. I like to contour my nose a bit and highlight very slightly but my eye makeup tends more towards the Koreans but with brighter and deeper colors, if that makes sense. I've only started playing with my brows as well, but for the most part I just fill them in rather than doing anything with them, haha.

For specific youtube tutorials, I like Lamuqe and Pony a lot. Their subtitles are really well translated and I get what they mean for the most part (unlike some makeup tutorials which use coded language that makes no sense to the layperson). Personality wise, Kathleen Lights is my guilty pleasure. She always has such a bubbly personality and she brightens up my day. She also does really interesting things eye makeup wise, even if a little out there. I also like Lisa Eldridge - she tends to go for more muted, classic looking makeup. She also did a youtube video comparing Eastern and Western makeup techniques, which is pretty eye opening.

>>9406141

You need a good cleansing routine if you want perfectly good skin and want foundation as well.

Foundation will look cakey or oily if you don't put on a good primer.

I like how you grouped 'toners' and 'concealers' under the 'same autistic shit.' The way you're confusing 'good skin' with makeup. I am of course proving my 'autism' but it's good to differentiate between the two. I know women with such good skin routine they don't need makeup to have good looking skin. Plus, you get the added benefits of protecting against skin cancer if you care even a little about protecting your skin. Look into getting your skincare routine down first. Your skin will thank you much more for it in the long run than slapping some cheap foundation on.

So I've gotten really good at lengthening my eyelashes, but now I'm running into another issue - they stop curling up when I start applying primer, mascara, etc. I can curl them up very well with my current curler, but all that goes to hell when I apply stuff on. I've tried heating the curler, curling after primer, and (most successful) a small pump after curling mascara, but my eyelashes will just uncurl as the day goes on. Does anyone have any suggestions for this short of eyelash perming or falsies? I'm at my wit's end about this.

>>9406638
Have you tried waterproof mascara? I find that's the only thing that keeps my lashes curled. I really like Etude House's lash perm curl fix mascara.

>>9406206
I like ABH. I usually switch between the shades "milkshake" and "crush"

>>9406260
Makeup brushes aren't a big thing in Japan

In fact, I'd say most of the makeup, especially eyeshadow, is pretty shitty aside from the well known staples like dollywink

>>9406642

No I haven't. The Etude house one sounds promising, I've heard it really does well to keep curl from a youtube vid but then forgot about it.

Would it be possible to put in between primer and a second mascara then? Or does it do well on its own for lengthening lashes?

Made an odd accidental discovery recently. After a day of painting cosplay props, I'm doing my nightly makeup removal /skincare routine. I still have a little spray paint stuck to my finger tips (because I'm never smart enough to wear gloves lol) I usually don't care enough to scrub it off since it usually falls off after 2 days anyway. Anyway, I start using my oil cleanser (Clinique's Take the Day Off) and I notice that after that, all the paint residue is gone from my hands!
A few weeks later and my incompetence continues with me super gluing my fingers together. I was about to bust out the hot water/dish soap/acetone method and recalled my experience with the cleanser. Thinking I had nothing to lose other than a pump of cleanser, I put some on my fingers and lo and behold, the super glue is dissolved! Now I have a much cheaper (Neutrogena) cleanser to try next time this happens so I'm not using the fancy stuff.
>>9406206
Just got a sample of the tarte lip Laing and I am in loooove with the formula. So plush! Otherwise, I'm a total ColourPop whore. Used the Maybelline Vivid Bolds when I needed a Grey lip and it wasn't bad.
>>9406032
If say I do pretty similar base makeup for everything just change up the details depending on character ie color, eyeliner shape, false lashes, lip color, highlight/contour etc. Or things like bedroom /smoky eye for mature, sexy characters and a low key look for things like high school girls. I really like the YouTubers Zabrena and Stephanie Lange
>>9406252
Its okay I guess. I still prefer the look a busy blender provides

Hey guys, so my elbows are extremely gray and ashy due to a dumb off road accident, what moisturizer would you all recommend so i can get rid of them?

>>9407037
don't get rid of your elbows anon you need those

in all seriousness have you looked into any moisturizers marketed for MANLY MEN who do MANLY JOBS? I'm not where I can go find a photographer right now but my grandfather used to use this stuff in a yellow bottle that worked wonders if he had a particularly intense project and it's driving me crazy that I can't remember the name

>>9405838
since no one answered yet i thought i'd chime in!! i'm something like an NW15, although i use becca complexion creme in porcelain (the absolute lightest shade)
anyway, fake bake flawless, for me (when i used it two years ago) went on evenly and was a nice brown instead of an orange. i'd reccommend it. it smells like a tropical tanning lotion, coconutty, if that is an issue

>>9406039
For good cheaper brushes I like the Wet n Wild ones and the brushes from AOA on shopmissa

>>9407078
From what I can see in the amazon reviews it looks really natural, and the price is really good. I'll have to give it a try. Thanks!

I considered getting Sally Hansen Airbrush Legs so I wouldn't have to worry about committing to a tan, but I'm afraid it would sweat off/rub off on my costume if I wear this to a con or wash off if I get splashed with water at my pool shoot. Do you have experience with this, or should I stick to the Fake Bake?

>>9407054
>in all seriousness have you looked into any moisturizers marketed for MANLY MEN who do MANLY JOBS?
I havent because i dont do manly jobs ;_;

>>9407037
Try gold bond ultimate repair?

>>9407095
I'm looking on Amazon, and all I see is gold bond ultimate, is that the same thing?

>>9407054
I laughed at your dumb joke

>>9407091
i've never used airbrush legs so i'm not sure, but i used fake bake actually at a summer con one year and it was fine!! honestly, once you build up to the shade you like, once you start taking showers and not reapplying the tan fades away in about a week and looks natural the whole time.

>>9407102
Sorry, I meant healing, not repair.

I've used it for tattoo healing, and it's the best I've ever used.

Dramu

>>9405785
Just work at Ulta! I get so much free gratis! As a previous Sephora die hard, the Ulta return policy and point reward system is so much better!

As an employee, I've gotten free anastasia brow wiz, lipstick, and brow duo ended highlight pencil. I've also gotten becca makeup primer, urban decay eyeliner, mario bedescu entire line for oily skin, several murad skincare line, 2 different sets of the dermaligica line, st tropez self tanner with body mit, and a lit of other crazy items all for free just so we can tell customers or personal opinions about it all.

The drawback is that we don't choose gratis.Random stuff is given each time but the managers let us rummage through it and sometimes a lot of girls don't get a chance at it. At my store, its based off of who actually makes an effort to be knowledgeable and helpful the most. I work with girls who scoff at the high end makeup aisle because they haven't tried it and redirect to me and a few other girls and turn away instead of just trying to learn with the customers. Those type of girls typically don't last long. I've only worked at Ulta 4 months and I would grade out an A+ experience for anyone who loves makeup. The girls I work with absolutely adore how I use makeup to transform my face for cosplay
and a few of them are registered makeup artists that give me pointers on how to better try to do the more drastic transformations.

>>9407159
I agreed with Kat's callout until she posted that rambling bullshit video on youtube. Yeah they ripped off her design, but Kat can't copyright a color layout of rectangles. It's a no class ripoff, but she made herself look stupid as fuck for taking them seriously and being so butthurt.

>>9407182
Sorry for my grammar. I am typing in a phone.

>>9406809
It could be possible, I think best would be to experiment around with different products and the order to see what works best. Not sure if you're Asian but my Asian lashes don't stay curled if there's too much product on them.

>>9407140
Thank you!
Does it matter what it specifies for? (i.e. hand, feet, etc...)

Hey, has anyone tried Dermacol AND dermablend? I'm trying to do my cosplay on a budget, and I've heard Dermacol is pretty good. One thing I was mostly interested in Dermacol for is mostly using it to touch up my thighs and stretch mark areas. I'm going to use it at Anime Expo, so I don't see much of a need to throw down stupid amounts of money on makeup that'll melt off anyway.

Brush or sponge for pressed powder (for setting wet foundation)?
I bought some makeup sponges from chemist warehouse but they're kind of hard and flat and just plapping them on my face feels awkward. On the same token, I feel a brush would smush around the base foundation or get it on the brush itself (I try to keep my brushes dry).

>>9406289
But I want to watch a lolita tutorial. Just someone who actually puts some more effort into it. A lot of people get torn apart on here for bad makeup but then theres no good tutorials?

>>9407159
They could have changed up the packaging desu. Also having a very similar name is shady af. I don't get the hype for makeup revolution as all they do is average dupes. I'd rather support the original and get better products.

Are there any examples of really good makeup in Lolita? I see so many bad makeup threads but I'd like to see it when people get it right

Did anyone else nab the Love Flush Blush for half the price on Ulta a couple days back? I'm not really a huge fan of Too Faced's formula on most of their products, but the packaging and design of these are so cute it's worth it! (Also sorry for the huge image, this is being uploaded straight from my phone)

>>9406495
Why would you do that? You can find them cheap as shit.

>>9407441
The before pictures for the bond have been 'burned'/doctored. No trust.

>>9407441
A friend of mine has tried it and she finds it ok for a concealer but it wasn't the best. It's over hyped.

>>9407712
most people already have bra inserts, retard

>>9407182
>working retail
>ever

Jk anon. It really does sound a lot of fun and I do prefer Ulta's return/points policy but I'm already a student pharmacist (taking the classes I need to start practicing) so I legit have no time for a job that isn't related to pharmacy.

If my town had an Ulta when I was in high school or undergrad I would have totally loved to work there! It does seem a lot of fun and I love free stuff.

>>9407624
For powder, find a brush that's very fluffy but also has some looseness to it so that it can hold lots of powder but doesn't disturb your foundation. Also with sponges maybe try dampening them first? But some are just gross and hard and nothing will save them, people like the beauty blender because it's really soft.

>>9407624
I really like the flat side of my Real Techniques sponge for setting powder. But I also use a loose powder as opposed to a setting powder, so YMMV. Most people I've seen using pressed powders on youtube use a fluffy brush.

You could also try both--brush for picking up the product and placing it on the face, then go in with the sponge afterwards to make the texture nicer.

>>9407740
>>9407714
Do you ladies have any other (cheap) makeup brands you'd suggest for stretch marks?

Kind of in the same vein as the poster above, does anyone have any recommendations for heavy-duty concealer/foundation/powder for scars?

I'm also rather pale, like NC 10-15.

>>9406039
Wet n Wild's brushes are a little hard to find but surprisingly amazing. I've got both elf and bh brushes in my collection and swear by them but I've found myself reaching for their WnW sister brushes a lot lately doing my makeup. The fibers are ridiculously soft and fluffy.

>>9405838
not sure if you're still here, but back when I was addicted to self-tanner, my favorites were Bath and Body Works' self tanner and the L'Oreal Sublime Gel. Mix them together for HG status. I am pale enough that a lot of brands don't make makeup my shade and either/both of these never made me orange, more golden. It was nice.

>>9407675
The thing is about lolita makeup, it tends to run on the subtle side, so it's not really meant to stand out the way, say, Instagram makeup art is. I really like Skullita's makeup, since she does do some pretty artsy looks, and Choke has pretty consistently good looks too. It also seems easier to pair gothic lolita with interesting makeup than sweet or classic, which mostly veers towards subtle nowadays.

>>9407675
>>9408691
Oh, and another person I think does great makeup is Door-chan, Mysterious_condiments on Insta but I can't remember her Tumblr right now

>>9408687
Still here.
Thanks for the rec! I've already ordered the Fake Bake mentioned by the other anon, but if that doesn't work I'll give this a try. Thankfully I have a couple of months to try several products in.

So I've never really worn makeup before and I have no idea how to apply it correctly. Is it best to learn from trial and error or just look at tutorials online? Can anyone recommend me any good ones for a complete makeup newbie?

>>9409595
Look up tutorials on youtube for basic makeup steps, plus any tutorials for certain looks you want to achieve or anthing specific about your face you would like to target. It will definitely take practice, not to mention it'll be an investment at first if you don't have any products.

For basic tutorials people usually recommend Wayne Goss or Lisa Elritch!

If you haven't done it before, I would also look into skincare.

>>9409595
What the other anon said, look at videos about what products you should consider buying.

>>9405785
Are these only available on Sephora and Tarte's websites? I cannot find them on Ulta so I assume they aren't carrying them

>>9406032
I mostly do natural/ no makeup makeup. My favorite YouTube MA is Lisa Eldridge. Since I'm not really into the bold makeup look, I get a lot of inspiration from films or paintings instead. My makeup definitely depends on what I am wearing. Some of my friends do a full face every day, but I feel a bit odd being dolled up if I'm just wearing jeans.

>>9406039
I like Ecotools. I've had my set of brushes for five years now, and they haven't shed or gotten rougher. A starter set is about $10. I also like Elf for a few things. I have a really nice kabuki and a couple of circular eye shadow brushes from them. I can't recommend their flat brushes, because the ones I got were scratchy and smelled terrible.

Thus should probably be in the skincare thread but there isn't one... but I'm currently in nyc and surrounded by a bunch of Korean cosmetic stores! Any recommendations of what I should grab while I'm here?

>>9407182
I feel like makeup is the only way I'd ever work retail again.

I know Sephora is picky about hiring (my local one is anyway) But does Ulta require previous makeup background experience?

>>9409671
Ecotools are really nice! The brushes are super soft and easy to clean.

>>9407678
This is my favourite blush I own! The gold lettering came off super fast but it's still cute

>>9410226
My friend just got hired at an Ulta and I don't think she's had any previous makeup jobs before

>>9409676
Sheet masks, cushion foundations/bb cream, and inexpensive brow makeup would be my go-tos.

>>9405785

Gosh, I just got the palette and I hate to be negative but - so far not swatching terribly well and lots of glitter fallout from the swatches. The cool shades seem most promising, but the warm shades aren't what I like them to be. It's a very sheer coverage as you can see, so pairing with a white base would probably be prudent.

I'm really hoping they'll work better on the eyes but even the matte isn't swatching terribly well which isn't a good sign. It's not terribly work appropriate to wear so it'll probably be a few days before I truly try it out. I feel so bad for saying this because this is a really nice palette and hopefully I'll have more luck on the actual eyes.

Lighting is my shitty bathroom lighting so take the picture with a grain of salt. I started with the matte and worked clockwise and ended on highlighter.

>>9411290
And of course I dropped pic. But please draw your own conclusions. I don't want to prevent you from getting this palette because of random anon's review. Just felt like ranting and since I have a full arm swatch why not.

>>9410226
I had a friend who was hired at Sephora, but unless you have a background in makeup or some esthetician training, you will never be a makeup artist at Sephora. You can be a counter or a helper, but never a person with a belt to help customers with actual makeup application and stuff. You are also required to wear makeup every single day.

I'm looking for a good red and bordeaux eyeshadows and it's kinda hard since even red eyeliner is more popular novadays.
Currently I'm looking for Venus Grunge palette from Lime Crime and JEFFREE STAR
Androgyny Eyeshadow palette. I'm also interested into Armani Maesrto #14 but it's unavaliable in my country and I'm pretty unsure about getting it from ebay. Thoughts? I'm so in love with red eye makeup but currently I'm using nyx red blush for it and it's not really comfortable since blushes are not supposed to be highly pigmented and not keeping a bright color for a long time.
Thoughts, anybody?

>>9411315
Sugarpill's Feline Fancy has a red foiled eyeshadow and there normal red, Love+, has really great reviews, but is out of stock atm

>>9409632
>Lisa Elritch
Just wanna correct this spelling in case people can't find her, it's Lisa Eldridge.

>>9411315
Hey anon just wanted to say please don't use anything other than eye make-up on your eyes, especially in red. While cosmetics are generally approved for use on skin, pigments used to make red are often more irritating than other colors, so you can hurt your eyes that way.

>>9411834
Now I'm kind of curious what a Lisa Eldritch youtube channel would look like...

>>9411315
don't get the androgyny palette, the formula is shit and REALLY gritty, they don't blend out well either.
>>9411819
feline fancy is also shit, the pigmentation is pretty much nothing, even with primer. The red is also very rusty and darker than it looks in their official swatches. Love+ is good though.

Inglot has a good red gel eyeliner, and marc jacobs highliner has a decent red shade as well
I would reccommend getting the modern renaissance and getting love + to cover the reds/pinks, and then maybe juvia's place masquerade for the more rusty orange and red shades.

>>9412039
Top coverage tips for sleeker tentacles.

DIY/lifehack eyeshadow primer? I don't want to buy an actual one since I'll only need it for one day but creasing is a major issue.

>>9412317
Primers aren't that expensive, you can get one from Wet and Wild for like $4.

>>9412317
Or you can really just use any concealer. Just make sure to set it with some powder/ light eyeshadow.

>>9411290
>>9411292
Ah man! Thank you for your honest review though. I decided to skip the palette for now since I just bought some clothes so my fun budget has been spent for the month. With how sparkly they are I can't imagine them being super work appropriate, which is mainly the only time I do wear makeup.

As for the brushes, I remember someone in a Facebook makeup group I'm part of linking some super cute unicorn horn brushes from eBay and Amazing for much cheaper.

>>9412393
>unicorn brushes from ebay and amazon
kek, have fun with your decorative brushes that can't apply or blend shit

Hey, gulls. I have a pretty rectangular, masculine face. I mostly wear classic lolita, so it's not TOO much of an issue (not as much as if I wore sweet), but I still feel really insecure about it. What are the best techniques for softening my face? I also think my hair plays into this so hairdo suggestions would also be appreciated, if it isn't too OT. Thanks!!

>>9412474
The person said they were very dense and applied well. I'll probably not buy them anyway but I still like looking at them in my wish list.

>>9412317
ELF has cheap eyeshadow primer, I like their pearl variant!

Has anyone bought any palettes/highlighters/whatever from Shophush? They have limecrime dupes, and I've seen a couple of Youtubers talk about the website but they all have promo codes so I can't tell if their shit is actually good or not.

What's your favorite peel-off lip tint?
Mine is Berrisom's Dear Coral

Can someone recommend a baby pink lip tint? Does this even exist?? I bought one from the Dear Darling line from Etude House but it is completely sheer

>>9412799
Look up feminizing tutorials on YT. Contouring/highlighting/blush placement can make a huge difference. Hairstyle also plays a big part--if your natural hair won't cut it, wear an appropriate wig that helps tone down your manface.

>>9416828
Aritaum pudding tint in polka pink.

>>9417324
This one looks great, thank you!!

>>9417405
No problem! It's not as pastel as some milky tints but it makes a good baby pink colour with most natural lip colours. Also it tastes nice, has great lasting power and fades very gracefully (no outer lip ring) and in general I'd recommend aritaum lip tints to everyone.

>>9407881
... Maybe cosplayers do but lolitas don't, if you knew anything about the fashion, you'd know big boobs just get in the way. Binders are popular with lolitas for a reason

Got my first Jolse order in!

Items:
>A'PIEU Milk One Pack * 3 sheets / Coffee Version
>Holika Holika Puri Pore No Sebum Pact 8g
>Holika Holika Petit BB Cream 30ml / Bouncing Version
>TONYMOLY Spoiler Selfie Shot Blur BB SPF37 PA++ 30g

My order total plus shipping tracking was $24.10 and I got 10 freebies out of the order including a Jolse pack of blotting papers.

The shipping took 3 weeks exactly but I'm thrilled with everything and I never get this freebie spoiled with my Korean eBay shops.

>>9418315
Wow, Jolse truly is generous with their samples.

Would you be able to review everything, or at least the BBs?

>>9418335
Yeah, that's why I went with seagull suggestions because I'm easily swayed by freebies. The prices weren't bad either since I caught them at a sale.

I'm heading out for my birthday dinner but I did try the Sebum Pact and the Holika Holika BB Cream so I can review those right now.

>Holika Holika Puri Pore No Sebum Pact
A lot smaller than I thought, fits in the palm of your hand but it's kinda cute. The powder is solid white and you use a tiny cushion to pat it on around your nose and cheeks, wherever might get greasy quick. I couldn't tell I'd put any on so I double patted just to make sure.

The BB Cream was a LOT darker than I expected when I put it on but then it seemed to change color? It went from a dark beige to almost matching my pale-ass skin. Very nicely scented as well. I'll take photos when I get back and see how it survived a few hours out. I'll also do test swatches of the rest.

>>9411315
The Lime Crime palette is so good imo.

Urban Decay have a few I saw in store recently. Their shadows can vary but I liked the ones I saw. I've heard shitty things about Jeffree's eyeshadows. Most of Sugarpills are good.
Mac has some good reds and their blushes have very good pigmentation.
Also Nyx has some too along with a red cream blush that I love

>>9411315
>>9418455
>Buying from Lime Crime, a known scam company, in 2017

>>9407185
I don't think she was THAT butthurt until 90% of the comments were telling her she should go fuck herself for pointing out the rip off in the first place. She only made that video to explain why she takes it so personally when her work is ripped off.

>>9418522
>scam company
lol, lime crime has a lot of drama with the owner and product quality , but they've never actually scammed anyone.

>>9418649

Yeah, they just let all their customers credit card data be stored in plaintext and didn't alert them when hackers waltzed out with the data.

>>9417550
Uh, no, most people generally have bra inserts. The MAJORITY of lolita's are not lifestyle lolitas, and have inserts for other occasions.

>>9418651
That was proven untrue, watch stephanie nicole's video on them for details.

>>9418315
>>9418335
Okay I'm back after 5 hours of test driving just the Sebum powder and HolikaHolika BB cream, no powder layer or anything, just blush.

I'm actually really pleased!

>Holika Holika Puri Pore Compact
>Talc non-added no-sebum powder makes skin look matte and silky by controlling shine on skin with fine natural mineral powder

I actually think it did a really good job! After 5 hours my nose is a little greasy (I wear glasses so my nose bridge gets bad) but it's not as bad as usual. I might need to powder more next time but my forehead isn't greasy feeling at all so I consider it pretty good for normal areas.


>Holika Holika Petit BB Cream - Bouncing
>Makes skin bouncy with essential petit BB that contains collagen and caviar!
It offers anti-wrinkle and whitening function to gives life back to your skin.

It seems to be color matching and after 5 hours my skin still feels really nice and not greasy at all. Feels like I've got lotion on where you skin is kinda dewy feeling but not sticky. Where I've got blush on my skin is soft and dry feeling so this BB cream plus a powder layer would be really nice.
Not exactly great coverage on its own (I've got dark facial hair issues so others might have better luck) but it's still better than bare skin. The pics don't do the color matching justice since my wrist is a lot paler than my face at the moment.


>TonyMoly Selfie Blur BB Cream
>It is a bb cream that covers the defects of the skin in a bright and smooth skin with just one touch like calibrating with the selfie application.
Gives bumpy blemishes and pores blur like silky filling effect.

I haven't tried it yet aside from the swatches but it's a lot thinner and runnier as compared to the Holika Holika one. I can't speak for what it looks like on the face yet so maybe it'll be worth it.

>>9418522
Lime Crime isn't a scam company, it was just a product quality involving mold and rust in the eyeshadow pans...that my only knowledge of Lime Crimes controversy.

>>9418649
>>9418651
>>9418922
>Selling 5 cent crap makeup from China at a massive markup full of FDA banned ingredients and claiming it's vegan and indie, selling moldy makeup, and allowing hackers to get customer information isn't considered scamming in 2017

>>9418950
>making up stories with no basis in fact or proof

So im planning a trip to sephora soon, to get some help with picking out make up. I have terrible luck when making makeup choices and either get shade off, or the brand i pick doesn't work with my skin type and wears off.

anyway, i use concealer and power mostly, but is there like, a set of base items i should walk out with? foundation? bb cream?

So, this feels like a stupid question but I have no female friends who really wear makeup so I honestly don't know...is it normal to have each eye work completely different with the same mascara? I imagine it's now the lashes grow in or something, but for instance my left eye always neatly seperates and fans out while my right eye always clumps up strangely and has trouble looking elongated. This happens whether I curl or not, and to some degree with any type of mascara. Is this normal? Should I just be brushing the clumpy one through a lot? Any tips? I deal with it as I can but it can be so annoying when they look different.

>>9419473
It depends on what kind of makeup you like to wear/your skin tone. Do you like fuller coverage, lighter coverage, prefer powders? Be sure to tell the lady helping your coverage preference. Since you seem to like powders more, try those out, and maybe a BB cream, though if you're really pale or really dark you might have trouble finding things in your shade (though I do promise there's something out there for everyone, I even found a foundation for my NW05 friend, NC10 myself).

I'd personally recommend at least trying a liquid foundation though, I used to use powder but fell in love with liquid, though admittedly I aim for fuller coverage because of acne. I'm pretty sure basics for makeup are primer, foundation of some sort, concealer, and setting powder if you used liquid foundation - setting sprays are also really nice too if you're wearing your face all day. Some kind of brow product also wouldn't hurt - I just use L'Oreal pencils, they're good quality and affordable.

>>9419093
These are well known issues anon. A quick google can help here.

I'm pretty new to eyeshadow. I've coasted along barely using it for years, but I've decided to bite the bullet and get some practice in for some natural looks first.
I was looking at some beginner palettes, namely the W7 In The Buff, and the Primark Nudes palette. Anyone have experience with them (or any others!) vs the likes of UD's Naked palettes? I'd rather not splash out for something that good until I know I can use the product properly and not let it go to waste.

>>9420891
You can buy cheap ass eye shadow but I would refreain from buying make-up at clothes stores like Primark. You should make sure that the consistency is kinda soft and rich in color. I personally like Sleek.

>>9419473
Ask an associate to help you with choosing something that will work for your skin type and they will also find the right shade for you. They will test and apply the product on you for free and then let them know that you want to test drive the product for a day to see the staying power. I've done this before with no problems bc I expressed from the start that I was worried about how the product would look and last on my skin throughout the day.

They just have way too many products in there and I don't want to stand around to swatch stuff on my face a billion times to find the right shade either. The makeup advisors definitely understand this and are super helpful with trying to find something to suit your needs. They have technology/an app they use to throw in your skin type, desired product and finish to quickly find the product for you too.

I've heard that you can ask for them to pump the product into a sample jar for you to try at home too but I've never tried that myself.

>>9421060
On the sample thing, it's 100% true. I've even once gone into Sephora asking only for three foundation samples - I felt bad about it and apologized a lot but impressed on them I was trying to decide which one worked best for final purchase. As long as you're polite it should be fine.

>>9420967
Diff anon but sleek's palettes are pretty poor, the newer primark makeup (PS Pro?) is pretty impressive quality for the price, excluding the foundation.

Been thinking of getting the Tarte pro amazonian clay palette (really like the look of the red/burgundy eyeshadows in particular) but unfortunately I'm in the UK so can't exactly check it out in store. Any thoughts on the quality?

Where can I buy a single red/burgundy eyeshadow? I don't want to buy a whole set just for one colour but it seems impossible to find!

>>9421110
have you tried colorpop, sephora, or urban decay? They sell individual ones.

Which do you prefer between the ABH brow pomade and the powder duo?

I went to Sephora and got one of the employees to help me buy the brow powder duo, but she completely mismatched my eyebrow color with the product. I left with it because I figured she knew better than I did, but I've tried it a few times and just absolutely can't stand it. I'm gonna buy a darker color, but I figured I'd see if you gulls like one over the other.

>>9421110
Lunatics Labs just announced a spring sale and they have burgundy singles

>>9421149
*Lunatick

>>9421148
I hear that sephora has pretty good return policies so you can probably go exchange or return it. Surprised she didn't try it on you in store first though.

>>9421153
I might try that, thanks! And she did try it on. I thought it was kind of light at the time, but I assumed it would be alright since she was the MUA, haha. She matched it to my hair rather than my eyebrow color, and after trying it on my own and sitting on it for a little while I really want to go darker rather than lighter.

Having recently moved to Japan I am in love with how easy it is to get asian cosmetics. (especially eyeliners, I have a great love of japanese calligraphy style eyeliners)

the downside? Looked at how much it would cost me to import some of my American Favorites and sobbed at the prices.... guess I gotta find an asian foundation for my white girl skin tone.

>>9420888
a quick google can show you that many of these claims have no basis in fact. The makeup became molded because of the glycerin, it was not sold molded. The hackers got the customer information by hacking, not because of the security expiring or whatever else people claimed. The china makeup accusation has no basis whatsoever. Fact check yourself please lol

>>9421110
sugarpill love+

>>9411290
Super noob but what do you mean by 'fallout'?

>>9421439
Fallout is exactly what it sounds like. It's when glitter from your eyeshadow falls/scatters. It's a pain in the ass.

Am I the ony one who can't use ABH brow pomade without making me look like the average Dumblr/insta whore? Thank god for Shu Uemura katana pencils.

>>9420883
After you wash your face or take a shower you can try combing your eyelashes with an eyelash comb, then using an eyelash curler. Repeat a few times as it starts to dry. That might help. Do you sleep on that side of your face or something?

>>9421475
I quite like my ABH pomade, maybe you're using a color that is much too dark for you? Also, I find that I have to apply it with an extremely extremely light hand or my brows look like what you're describing. It's a product that can go from 0 to 100 really quickly. I also don't use it for the entirety of my brow--I pencil around the shape first and then use the pomade to fill in sparse areas.

>>9418522
You don't have to like them I was just saying they are good. DESU anyone buying from Kylie Jenner whose company has sent out empty products or the racist Jeffree Star in 2017 is messed up. They are plenty of makeup brands with drama
>>9418651
A bunch of well known companies were scammed during that time and yeah it's shitty that she didn't update her system or at least let people know what happened faster. I've been lucky and never had any issues with the site

>>9421439
When you apply eyeshadow and some of it falls onto your cheek
Glitters and dark colors are most prone to doing this.

Heads up gulls. Tarte's having a 30% off sale on their website right now with free shipping over $40. Code word: FESTIVAL. Sale ends 4/06 though. It's a good time to stock up if you gulls were planning on trying some new shit out.

>>9420891
W7 in the buff basically dupes naked 2. Just don't use the brush that comes with the palette

So I'm super pale (think always lightest, no matter the brand of makeup if not too light). I'm looking for really good foundation that's pale but gives a dewy finish? Along with brown mascaras and eye liner because black just makes me look gothic. Mind you, I like goth but sometimes it's not the look I go for in daytime. Any suggestions?

>>9424030
Damn it, wrong image.

When doing my eyeshadow, I really want to get that sharp blue upper line on the browbone (see pic related) but I'm not sure how I can do it without it looking 'fuzzy'. I was thinking I could make some kind of stencil, but what material would be good for making a stencil like that?
Eyeshadow crayons usually seem too thick, and it seems odd to have a powder eyeshadow on the actual eyelid and then go into liquid stuff on the browbone.
Anyone got tips??

>>9424048
>Jem aesthetic
Marry me

>>9424053
I will if you teach me how to do my eyeshadow properly.

>>9424048
Use an angled brush and go slowly with dampened powder shadow? I often do winged eyeshadow with a damp angled brush when I want the colour, but have no eyeliner that shade, so I think you'd be able to get a fine line like that in the same way.

>>9424048
You can try doing it with tape but it'd only work on the top of the blue line

Also aren't those supposed to be her eyebrows? Or are you treating it like it's part of the eyeshadow?
Anyway, I don't think it's weird to use liquid for sharp lines. Inglot has a product called Duraline that you can mix with loose eyeshadow and use as a liquid.

>>9424030
please know that telling someone you're "super pale" means literally nothing, even if you add on "always the lightest in every brand" because every brand has different shades for their lightest shade.
if you want a suggestion for foundation, state one that is a close match for your skin tone or state your mac shade number, otherwise no one can fucking help you.

>>9424048
You can use any liner to trace the shape out, fill in with liquid lipstick using an angled brush, and then layer eyeshadow on top

>>9424030
I understand what you're asking. Missha No. 13 will work the best if you have pink undertones. It's very light and dewy, but it's also a BB Cream so not as full coverage as a traditional foundation.

You can also try Maybelline's Fit Me Dewy & Smooth Foundation in Porcelain. I use the powder foundation to give me some color during the day. You might need to add a foundation corrector from Manic Panic Dreamtone which will lighten whatever foundation you like. MAC sells a white correcting foundation too, but it's pricier.

>>9407678
I caved and bought a few so I could get the Peanut Butter and Honey bag + gloss bonus. Too Faced is my Achilles' heel- the formula is hit (blushes) and miss (shadows) but their packaging is so damn cute.

I can swatch them if anyone is curious, but they're nothing new/hard to find online.

>>9421550
>Also, I find that I have to apply it with an extremely extremely light hand or my brows look like what you're describing. It's a product that can go from 0 to 100 really quickly.
That would be because it's a shite product.

>>9424391
Nah, it's good. Stays on all day and all night and hot weather/gym it doesn't budge. I just don't have the patience to apply it correctly so i aint fucking with it atm

>>9424030
I'm ginger pale and also >>9418846
and the Holika Holika BB cream I reviewed has become my absolute favorite. Most western brands are at least two shades darker than my skin but this is perfect. I think it's because it's got a whitening feature (didn't realize that til after I bought it) but it comes out beige from the tube and then just whitens and perfectly matches my skin tone. Before I had to use pale powders over my foundation/BB cream to try and match my skin but for a week now I've not used powder at all and go out in just the BB Cream.

>>9417486
I searched for the Aritaum pudding tints again and apparently it is discontinued (and they have a new formula where Polka Pink lookes more choral unfortunately)

>>9424406
Different pale anon here, but are you pink or yellow toned, what would you say your MAC shade equivalent is? I'm slightly paler than NC10 but very warm toned, been looking for a BB cream that goes pale enough but isn't cool toned and gray looking on me. (Missha #13, you made me so sad) I thought the Holika Holika looked too dark in your pics but now I'm intrigued if it really does change.

>>9424977
I'm pink toned and I have no idea what my MAC shade is because I'm rural and don't have access to a store that has that sort of thing to test me.

In my picture I didn't really apply it like I would my face (I use sponges for face, I just slathered it on for the test) but here's a comparison picture of HolikaHolika vs the palest drugstore foundation I could find in a pinch, Rimmel London 'Clean Finish' in Ivory 120 which was seriously the palest I could find in any brand and it's still too dark for me.

Just saying up front, I have sensitive skin and right now I'm mid-breakout plus PCOS giving me dark facial hair so I apologize for awful photos.

>Top Row
Using BeautyCam's auto correction

>Bottom Row
Straight up phone camera, no filters

>Remover Photo
The Rimmel half is after just running the cloth down my cheek in a small patch. The HolikaHolika side is after rubbing my entire cheek clean.

>>9425079
Dang man, your skin is really clear! I have no idea what you're talking about with "mid-breakout" though your skin is yours so whatever your standard is. I could only dream of such clear skin, I frequently have full on cystic breakouts, really not fun. But seriously thanks for the pictures, it was very kind of you to take them!

This is confirming to me at least that I highly doubt the Holika Holika BB would be as gray as Missha looks neutral. In a side question, I'm pretty sure my local grocery stores don't carry Rimmel Clean Finish, but I do own Wet 'n Wild Photofocus in Porcelain and there's loads of swatches of Maybelline Fit Me 115 compared to stuff I normally wear - not asking you to buy them or anything like that, but if by chance you've compared the Rimmel to them would you say it's the same, darker, lighter? Again, NOT trying to be an ass and asking you to go through more trouble, just wondering if you've compared them so I have another reference to go off of.

>>9425147
It's mostly little zits all over my forehead, one big one on my cheek under my eye, and on my neck and shoulders. I'm glad I don't get big ones but I get little ones everywhere when the weather shifts and humidity kicks in.

Sorry, I rarely buy drugstore anymore but the ones I used in the past were Hard Candy and LA Color or something like that. Usually I'd just go in and buy whatever was cheap and pale until I got a BB cream restock. All I can say is HolikaHolika's Bouncing Petite BB is undoubtedly the palest shade I've ever had in anything. I don't know whether that's from the whitening aspect to it (still not fully sure what that does/changes to your skin or if it's purely cosmetic) or not but this is the best thing I've had to match my skin in years and I think it was only $6?

>>9412317
Sephora will make you a FREE to-go sample of almost any product, in what looks like a miniature eye contact case. Should work for the only need for one day request, you may even have some left over.

Just ask any worker.

>>9425494
>>9412317
Yeah I literally do this for thing's I'll only need one time for a costume, or when I'm travelling on an airplane and want to grab some various masks and moisturizers to slap on while I'm in the air. I usually have enough for there and back trip.

>>9418653
you are nuts, what are you smoking? no one takes bra inserts out to use as beauty blenders, like in what world are you living in?

>>9424511
Diff anon, I think I have the new formula (in a long tube?) and I don't think it's very coral. Can take pics/review if you want.

>>9426410
If you're just trying to see if the silicone applicator works, it's a lot easier to just use something you have than order a new thing. It's not like anyone is suggesting you use your bra insert every day, stop being retarded.

>>9418365
The Holika Holika petit BBs all come in different shades despite not really saying anything about it, because they all oxidize weird. Try for a different type maybe?

Looking for nice fake eyelashes for cosplay?Over the top and eye enlarging, but not crazy thick like ones for drag. I've pretty much got no experience with them so could I get some recs please? Especially nice bottom ones.

Just from looking around I'm thinking Dolly Wink Dolly Sweet for top lashes, ardell individuals for bottom lashes, and duo lash glue.

>>9427066
Your current choices are fine.
If you'd rather not pony up the cost of importing Dollywink, I'm a big fan of Eyelure London lashes they have a few different styles that are the right amount of volume and wispy with a thin band that keeps them from over powering the makeup applied to the lid. I am partial to "Naturals No. 033 and 027"

For bottom lashes they have what the company calls "Underlash No. 040", which again has that really nice thin band that is just right and helps it adhere without looking silly.

>>9426570
We're not the ones trying to use a bra insert as a make up applicator, but I'm sure your foundation will be flawless and even!

Incoming blogpost

I've heard gulls and normies recommend NYX, never tried it, they had a B1G1 half off, so I bought:
>four Suede matte lip liners,
>two liquid suede cream lipsticks
>two Epic Ink Lip Dye Stains.

Everything was terrible except the lip liners which were mediocre, and I'm super sad. I'm coming from higher end lipsticks like Smashbox and Stila, but the way everyone talked about NYX lip products I thought it would hold up. tl;dr review:

liquid lipsticks
>came off with water
>smeared on my teeth in about 2 minutes
>greasy feeling, didn't set or dry
lip stains
>applied 2 coats, still looked patchy
>slow to dry, looked even patchier when dry
>came off rapidly with water, no soap or cleanser needed
>didn't stain even when removed, even revlon sticks stain better
>need them for 6-10 hour server shifts
>need lip products that don't budge and only need reapplying once or twice max

The only thing I'd heard on here was the butter glosses recommended and I was saving that for a next purchase, should I even bother? I wear more lipstick than lipgloss anyway.

>>9428169

I like the glosses, but I've decluttered quite a few in the past since like you, I'm not a huge fan of glosses.

They smell/taste good, and are a little bit tacky (not sticky, but not super slick either). If you find one or two that you love color-wise, they're worth it. If I use a gloss at all, I reach for those.

Really the only lip products I really love from NYX is their matte lipstick bullets. I found them creamy and not too drying. Liner is recommended since sometimes the lines are uneven after application.

The rest of their lip products have been hit or miss for me, and I really love NYX as a whole ... so it varies by preference.

>>9428158
That's the point you idiot: the silicone applicator doesn't apply makeup evenly because it's exactly the same as using a bra insert. Do you even read before you type?

>>9428242
Nayrt but would you say Butt naked turn the other cheeck palette is meant to be cheap and not really great because I bought it and it seems really shitty? Of course it was super cheap but still bummed me a bit. I have small nude palette from Isadora and honestly the pigment is way better. I'm just starting to get into make up so I didn't want to invest too much to my first proper palette and I really needed a new blush. Should I look for something else? The colors are really pretty which is a shame.

>>9425163
The whitening effect in at least some BB creams is caused by an ingredient which prevents you from getting tanned + they contain SFE which also prevents you from getting tanned (but it is also needed for the protection of your skin because when you can't get tanned, your skin is more sensitive)

>>9411290
>>9411292

Update, but I tried a look this weekend and I need to eat my words. It's harder to work with for sure, but the results really are amazing! I used the purple shadow on my lid, the lighter mauvy one in the middle, and the highlight in my inner corner and to highlight my face. I really liked the effect! Definitely great for a more glamorous or out there look, and easier to work with than the BH Galaxy girl palette I have (the closest one I can compare this too with ethereal colours). No regrets anymore, I think.

>>9428169

Personally I find the butter glosses very slippery and don't stay on at all.

Personally I do like their liquid suede line. I agree that it comes off easily, but I do find it more comfortable to wear than some of the more drying liquid lipsticks.

I also like their liners as they're cheap and they seem to have pretty even application.

I'm really trying to think right now what else from their line I would recommend, but desu I haven't tried much else. Their eye concealer was disappointing as it's thick and interferes with my eye makeup. I have their cheek stain but it remains unopened for the time being as I have so many other blushes to go through.

>>9428380

Personally for me I would start with one versatile blush rather than a whole palette, which could be overwhelming. Once you get comfortable with how it looks on your cheeks, you can start playing with other colors and how they look on your face. What color you choose first is really up to you and what flatters your skintone.

>>9428169
I like their suede line, but they're not really meant to dry down like a matte liquid lipstick, so it's good for people who don't like drying lipsticks. Their lingerie liquid lipstick line stay much more put, imo, and they're much more of of mousse texture. I have good luck with it staying put, but the downsides of it are that sometimes the texture comes out a little chunky, and they take more swipes of application than some of my other lipsticks.

In terms of staying put, I think for a cheap lipstick option Colourpop is the most permanent option, but it's also the most drying. Of course, if you're used to higher quality lipsticks, these aren't going to be amazing quality in comparison, but you do get the options of more colours for your money.

Alternatively, I would check out indie makeup options. They might be the same price range of some designer brands, but they're really able to do a lot in terms of colour range, staying power, and comfortabilty.

>>9421401
when i was in japan i saw american cosmetics at department stores but they were mostly luxury brands. maybe you could get your mom or a friend to ship them to you!

>>9428581
>>9428380
Sorry, I meant I'm getting seriously into more quality make up so I have several blushes already at the moment and I have definitely gotten used to it. I got it because I needed a new powder one and it had three pretty shades along the shadows. The blushes and highlighters weren't the problem but the eyeshadows. They don't seem to be really pigmented but I'm not sure if it's because the palette was cheap and meant to be a starter pack or if I'm doing something wrong. Either way, I am pretty disappointed. I have good brushes but I should really invest to good primer next. I was so tired when I typed that and I'm not native so it becomes misleading quickly.

Are there any good tips or guides for contouring your face to look manly for crossplay without it looking muddy or awful?

Can someone help me id some of the products or even just type of products and/or explain their purpose from this video?
Pic related, left is at 12:20 and right is at 13:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAbENKYcXhk

The one on the right is described as a "cover foundation" but I'm not sure what that means, and the one on the left is just a normal powder foundation I think but it's applied after a stick foundation?

As a disclaimer I realize cgl generally doesn't like Reika but I've always had trouble with makeup for cosplay and hers looked really good when I met her, and I was especially impressed with how smooth the foundation looked so I want to try her style.

>>9428764
>indie makeup options

Interested but I don't know where to start, do you have any recommendations?

>>9430950
I went to one of her other panels a while back, I don't remember what her pressed powder is, but I'm 99% sure that blue-lidded loose powder is Chacott, a JP makeup brand marketed to ballerinas (supposedly has great staying power for when you're on stage, etc.). She mentioned in the panel I went to that hers was "cooling" (had some menthol in it or something) and I've never been able to find that specific one, but I have some of their regular translucent powder and I like it well enough.

What's a good tinted moisturizer? I'm open to both western and asian brands.

>>9434393
My favorites right now are Cryptic Cosmetics and Black Moon Cosmetics. I do mostly gothic lolita, so they're brands in shades that I'm able to use a lot. They're both a really good balance between staying power and comfortability.

If you're looking for a wide range of color, check out Makeup Monsters, Beauty Bakerie, Dose of Color, and Colored Rain. I haven't tried these brands yet but they have generally good reviews and really great colors. Ofra is another brand with a great color range and I have a few of their lipsticks, I'm not in love with them for the price but they always have discount codes. I probably wouldn't bother again with them unless it's a really interesting, unique color. I have hear good things about their highlighters, though.

Sugarpill has really great metallic lipsticks, I only have the red one that comes with the Feline Fancy palette but I love it. They have bullet lipsticks as well, obviously they don't have amazing staying power like a liquid lipstick does, but the colors are very nice.

My absolute favorite in terms of comfort so far has been Lonely Planet, they don't have as much staying power but I love the way they feel on my lips, kind of velvety/suede-y? They're going through some rebranding thing so their new name is like Atomic Makeup NYC or something, I can pretty much only find them on Instagram. They had really great colors too, so I hope they bring those back.

I haven't tried their lipsticks, but I do want to mention Lunatick Lab Cosmetics for really amazing eyeshadow palettes geared towards more gothic looks, esp their contour palette. Another brand for eyeshadows is Concrete Minerals, they do lovely loose powders.

Hope that helps!

>>9434400
You mean this stuff? Maybe it's an older version with less dark writing?

I'm mainly just confused because the translator calls both foundation and I don't know a lot about makeup so I'm not clear on if it is actually? Because 3 layers of foundation seems extreme and like it wouldn't look good?

Though if it is pic related that would mean it's just finishing powder right? Which would mean just a powder and stick foundation?

>>9406636
>Foundation will look cakey or oily if you don't put on a good primer.

Is sunscreen usually good enough for primer?

Also, should I be using a brush or puff for liquid foundation?

age

Any recommendations on makeup for me? I'm a total noob at this

>>9437201
You should do this https://youtu.be/FwR-QZgXqFk

I've been thinking on buying Lorac Pro palette since I'm just starting to wear makeup more seriously and I seem to be allergic to Elf's mad for matte. Is Glambot a good option? Has anyone have any experiences?

>>9406205
anyone itt have any gothic tutorial youtubers to recommend?

>>9437037
greasy ass sunscreen isn't good for a primer, but if your face isn't busted to fuck with acne you're probably good to just go read the skincare thread.

i wouldn't suggest you use foundation or anything unless you want to figure some shit out instead of regarding it as autistic. if you aren't careful you're going to look like a clueless cakey preteen.

a bb cream would likely suit your purposes better than foundation.

Hi gulls, I have very dark eye brows (like almost black) and am cosplaying a character in a honey blonde wig. Is there a to lighten my eyebrows? Without bleach as it would need to be temporary.

>>9439000
get a nyx jumbo eye pencil in milk (or equivalent) and a spoolie and work it into your brows. Not too much or it starts getting nasty and messy. Go over it again with a eyeshadow of choice (brow powder will probably work too in your case). Your natural brow colour poking through will grey out the colour and make it a little darker but brows should be darker and a cooler tone than blonde hair anyways imo.

>>9439000
Try heavy rotation brow mascara. It's made for asians who bleach their hair I think, and comes in shades varying from ash blonde to honey blonde. It covers my dark eyebrows really well.

>>9439000
Eyebrows tend to be darker than your actual hair colour, so sometimes you could probably get away with it if you only slightly lightened them.

Dumb question, but this is my first year hearing about the Sephora VIB sale - is it literally for everything or are there limitations/off limit brands? Everyone says it's on "everything" but that's a little much for me to imagine. And I know they let you return stuff you bought in store back to the store, but do they do the same for items you open purchased online? Only have a mini JC Penny Sephora near me.

I'd like some suggestions on foundation that can cover well and won't break the bank. I have pretty big tattoos that I would like to cover for cosplay and my daily wear foundation is a BB cream. I was thinking about getting dermablend samples on ebay or something. I want to avoid dropping ~40 bucks on something heavier (like KVD's foundation) for basically a handful of uses.

>>9439128
Yeah Sephora VIB has no brands excluded. I honestly don't think it's that good though unless you're basically rouge tier. Ulta also does a similar sale with 20% off including all prestige brands and I personally think their rewards system is better than Ulta's.

>>9439136
Sorry, had a blank. Meant to write "better than Sephora's". Since you can redeem points for dollars off instead of minis or samples.

>>9439136
I've known about the Ulta sale, and agreed on the rewards program, there's just been a thing or two I've wanted to try from Sephora that they hold exclusivity to. Might as well try if I can return them if they don't suit me.

For super full coverage, there's the now pretty internet famous Dermacol. It's palest shade is too dark for me which is a shame because the formula and coverage is really good, at least for me - any bright red acne and scarring is instantly covered and it's the most flawless I've ever looked. I also like how it applies 1000x better than KVD which is really stiff. You need to pair it with a good powder and/or setting spray though - it comes off onto everything for me if I don't. Prices vary depending on shade, but it's about $10-15 depending on who you choose to buy from on Ebay.

>>9438973
My faves are Drac Makens, Reeree Philips, Mirrorsandhaze, Biohazerdousbeauty, and Haute Macabre

>>9439155
>there's just been a thing or two I've wanted to try from Sephora that they hold exclusivity to
Same here. I want to try their summer kit and some Dr. Jart sheet masks so I'm just going to make a $50 purchase to get free shipping and some samples.

Do we have a cheap/low price online make up store list?

I'm just looking for some cheap make up to play around with. I've been wanting to 're-invent' myself, so I honestly just want to play around with a bunch of stuff and see what I like.

Thanks in advance!

>>9439155
Is the dermacol shade you tried 207 or 208? 208 is the lightest shade for some reason instead of 207.

>>9439639
Where are you located? If you're in the US or Canada, I'd recommend e.l.f. since they often offer free shipping.

>>9439639
Where do you live? In the US sites like Ulta and Target carry plenty of cheap brands like ELF, NYX, Essence and others. If you're outside the US, Beautybay is decent for some brands, more expensive for others. Essence can be gotten in the EU at several places too, and is super cheap but decent quality.

>>9439712
Also I just remembered BH cosmetics is good too, you can get decent brush sets and multicolor palettes for decent prices.

>>9439057
>>9439110
>>9439124
Thanks anons I will look into these things

>>9439648
207 - tried it based on Thataylaa's review, and she must be a bit darker than me since it's a perfect color match for her and definetly off for me. I should try mixing it with KVD, palest shade is too pale for me.

>>9439639
There's also Wet n' Wild, they're a mixed bag but have some really good items at insanely cheap prices, plus their brushes aren't half bad either. I'd make sure to buy what you hear good things about and steer clear of the duds of course.

>>9440094
Oops, 208, good job typing brain. I know it's the real palest shade.

>>9420891
I found W7 In the Buff to be good to start out with. Great for practicing natural looks and getting a feel for what you like doing with your eyeshadow.

I would go for it, anon.

Does anyone have a light to medium coverage foundation they recommend for really dry skin? My skintype has been pretty unremarkable most my life but I guess not anymore despite my best efforts + I'm over the full coverage look so now is as good a time as any to try something new.

>>9440728
I've been using Smashbox's BB Water. My skin is super dry and it's been working well so far, paired with a light moisturizer.

>>9440728
You can try your favorite foundation or bb cream with a small drop of a light facial oil (add a bit more if you feel that your skin needs a bit more). The oil will also thin out your foundation/bbcream a bit so that the coverage is a little less. Not all bases will mix well with oils though.

I use my usual bb cream with a drop of innisfree's green tea seed oil in the winter. I also mix in a bit of a lighter base makeup bc my skin is a little lighter in the winter and it helps thicken the mixture a bit bc I still want the coverage but the oil helps combat the drying out of my skin throughout the day.

I'm in the market for a new powder, anyone have a favorite they''d recommend? I used to use a translucent Bare Minerals one which was good, but then started using Mary Kay's which was the same quality for less. I'm not wanting to support them financially anymore and started trying new things - currently using Skinfood's Peach Sake Silky Powder on a recommendation but it's waaaay too thin and also seems to make my face darker despite being a translucent powder?

Yeah, I haven't tried many, there's just way too many out there for me to wrap my head around. I'd mostly prefer translucent but if you have a colored one you love that you know is NC10 or paler I'd be game to try it, I just haven't had much success on that front and gave up quickly.

>>9442374
Try rcma's no color powder? It's cheap and does the job best I think

>>9442374
Innisfree's no sebum powder

>>9421401
mandy?? is that bunny from a friend of yours?

>>9442374
If you're willing to delve into drugstore, l'oreal mineral foundation gives really good coverage, works great on my acne scars. My face is really dry and it was fine, I'm under the impression it was bettter suited to oily types but it works great. Didn't make me break out.Really full coverage, it can work as concealer and covering hickeys too.

>>9439110
>>9439057

Thanks gulls, been struggling for years with thick black brows in cosplay. I could only get buy with the gluestick method and then colors like dark green or blue.

Throwing caution to the winds, does anyone have any online stores they would recommend for discounted/wholesale brand US makeup? Like Nars, Too Faced, UD, etc.

I want to buy some Nars Lip pencils for not $30 from Sephora, I'm seeing some on ebay, I just wanted to check in here before buying.

>>9443860
You can try https://www.allcosmeticswholesale.com/

>>9421110
Etude house has some!

>>9443860
All the stuff on ebay is fake. You may think you're getting a good deal but that shit isn't regulated and it definitely isn't legit.

>>9443860
You could get them 10% off right now from sephora

Gulls, please help.

Girl here and my face is really round and my jowls are pronounced but I'm 20 years old (looks unfortunate yes).

My BMI is already considered nearly underweight and I've even tried to starve myself but the fat on my face just never leaves and I'm at the end of my rope.

Even with contouring and wig framing and flattering camera angles you can see really deep shadows and I look about 40 years old.

Is botox/plastic surgery the only remaining hope?

>>9443952
If it's from China obviously?

I've gotten fake stuff and legit makeup/perfume on ebay, you can always contest it.

I have hoods like this and all I want in my life is to do that kawaii anime eye look
stuff like what Anzu does or Ulzzang.
Any time I work with eye makeup its suffering.
What do I do? pic related is my eye type. Am I fucked?

>>9444476
I recommend you to check out drag queen makeup tutorials. Violet Chachki has hooded eyes so you can analyze how she does hers and watch her vids on youtube.

Hey, so I'm doing a mermaid theme thing for a play… it's supposed to more ethereal than like scaley.

I never ever got into the highlighter trend, but would anyone be able to help me find out what products I could use to achieve this look? I'm looking for affordable dupes because I don't plan on doing this too many times.

I only ask because I'm always wary to getting body glitters, I have a fear I'm going to buy some toxic glitter not meant for skin… idk I'm a weirdly paranoid about some things. But highlighters, I would love some help with since I have no experience in that realm. I know they're popular and trendy which makes me feel worse I don't know anything about them. Thanks if anyone can help!

what are these style of eyebrows called and how would i go about doing them? (i tried to find out the style but didn't really get anywhere..)

>sephora sale on
>ok I'll just stock up on some ABH shadows and add a UD shadow I've been eyeing, then discount it with the 10% off code
>get to checkout, add code
>order is now more expensive

I hate you Sephora.

>>9444687

Nyx has a good line of highlighters that might just be shiny enough to achieve a low key version of that picture. Otherwise, it's sort of hard to achieve exactly that look with only highlighters. Even glitter highlighters tend to have a slick sheen rather than an actual glitter look, and that's hard to catch unless you turn the right way. Best bet would be to layer the highlighter on and maybe contour right behind where the dimples of the temples are it to emphasize the height of the zygomatic arch.

I JUST WANT A RUNDOWN ON BB CREAM

ASAP

>>9445957
What do you even mean by that? Why can't you just Google it?

>shower and clean face
>put on the cleanser-moisturiser shit
>put on foundation primer
>put on foundation
>nice, much lighter skin
>2-3 hours later
>skin is no longer as light, but the imperfections are blocked

I don't understand? is it just a shitty brand of foundation?

I really don't like experimenting with foundation and spending another 20 bucks.

"beige" color from one brand is so fucking different with another.

>>9405838
Soleil de la Mer Face and Body Gradual Tan. Its base is more rosy than other tanners, so it never comes out orange. As long as you follow basic self-tanner etiquette (exfoliate, moisturize, double moisturize dry spots like knees, elbows, and face, apply lightly on dry spots) you'll get a great natural tan every time.

>$100!
Cheaper than skin cancer, and the only self-tanning product I've liked enough to use multiple times.

>>9446023
Foundation is supposed to match your skin, why are you trying to look light?

>>9445491
They're a traditional Japanesw thing, if you want to do it without shaving your brows, look up drag queen tutorials of how to glue down your brows. Basically take a glue stick, glue them down, cover with concealer and then powder, and you can draw whatever brow you want on. If you want to you can also just shave off most of your brows except the front.

>>9445958
I just wanted a gull to explain it to me

>>9446098

I like contrasts.

Jet black hair and a 5 o clock shadow combined with light skin and violet/blue circle lenses.

>>9446130
Foundation is not meant to change your skintone, mate. That's why people laboriously spend ages matching their foundation to their skin instead of just picking up their ideal skintone.

>>9446173

what the fuck do I use then to up the shade of my skin by 1 or 2 tones?

now I'm gonna add ANOTHER fucking layer of makeup for a total of four?

>>9446187
skin brighteners and light concealer for highlight

>>9446123
BB cream is basically skincare combined with makeup.
It's not good for coverage, though.

>>9446187
By the time I'm done doing my makeup I usually have moisturizer, foundation, concealer, highlight/contour, blush, finishing powder. That's 6. I don't even use primer or setting powder like some do. You can use a lighter heavy coverage foundation, but it'll end up looking like a mask and you will look stupid. Your best bet is to use a base that is brightening/tone up (many korean brands make them) under your foundation, and then you can try using foundation over that, along with brightening concealer. But lighter foundation alone isn't gonna match your neck or the rest of your skin, so if you try to go full coverage, you will look like a 14 year old goth.

Would this be the right thread to ask questions about hair gel?

>>9446023
>>9446187
Some foundations 'oxidise' on the skin, meaning they darken to a certain shade after a while. You could look for a primer that claims to brighten or whiten your skin, or look for a pale concealer (I recommend LA girl) to mix with your foundation.

However as above anon said it may end up looking ghostly or cakey.

Anybody else just permashit at make-up? I'm so jealous of all the girls in my comm who have flawless make-up. I've had make-up selected for me by professionals, watched so many tutorials, been 'practising' for six odd years, and I still can't get better.

>>9445957
CAPS LOCK MEANS PLEASE IN AUTISM

Any other gulls getting that new innisfree mix and match palette thing? I wasn't sold to it at first but the swatches seem decent so I might get some.

>>9448520
I'm really tempted. If they have a contour shade that works for me (I'm very yellow-toned) I'd definitely make one.

>>9448550
These are the contour shades they have, not sure if any of them works for you, though

>>9448298

uh does it get applied before or after foundation?

so will a lighter toned highlighter also work?

I have stubble designed to give an improved jawline, so pretty much only my cheekbones, forehead and nose gets makeup tho.

>>9421080
Hm I found the PS Pro foundation to be actually pretty good. The coverage was decent, though it did feel a little heavy on.

>>9448301
What are you doing to have not improved in 6 years???

>>9448301
do you not listen to crit or something?
we can give you constructive concrit on here if you need it.

>>9449904
I'm really not sure. I try different styles for my eyes, different contouring methods/colours, highlighting etc.
It doesn't help because I need glasses and I'm terribly short sighted, so I have to get really close to a mirror to see what I'm doing.

>>9450267
I listen to crit, I just don't know what I can show you that is critique worthy. I don't take many pictures of myself.

I might try some make-up later and take a pic for you guys to help me if I have time.

>>9450375
Is it eye makeup or everything?
If the former, then just do one eye and one eye without

>>9450389
Everything in general.

>>9449032
Primers go on before foundation. Highlighters go on top of foundation and wearing one all over your face will just make you look like a disco ball rather than paler.

Anon, I think you need to look up some makeup basics tutorials...

What are some good eyelash glues that don't break the bank? I've just recently realized that the duo eyelash glue I've bought a few times from amazon isn't actually the real stuff (I know, I'm an idiot, no need to tell me) and that's probably the reason I always have a hard time with putting on fake eyelashes, but when I looked around all I can find that is real (as in sold from legit makeup sites etc) is like $10+, which to me feels way to much for something that doesn't last that long
Are there any other options that aren't shitty but aren't quite that expensive?

>>9450957
It actually lasts super long, I used to use falsies pretty often (not like everyday though) and it last for like a year until I lost the cork and it eventually dried. I'm only on my second tube after over two years of using it.

>>9451065
Oh damn
The fake one definitely didn't last that long. Thanks for the info! Even if it only lasts half a year or something that's totally worth it

>>9450391
Post a pic anon, we'll try to help. I sucked at makeup for years until I found a tutorial by someone with an eye shape like mine.

>>9450456
It depends on the highlighter, matte sticks can go directly on top of the primer and blended into the surrounding foundation.

>>9434607
Follow up to this post, if anyone is interested in trying a few of these brands, Black Moon is having a 15% starting Friday, Cryptic Cosmetics is having a 10% sale until Tuesday, and Makeup Monsters is doing a full restock starting Friday

Hey guys, trying to figure out a good brand of foundation to go for. I'm a very pale redhead with neutral undertones, and pretty terrible skin. I'm prone to breakouts, dry patches, and dullness. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? I don't mind shelling out for top shelf brands as long as it gives me the beautiful glowing complexion my genetics seem to screw me on.

>>9452970
Any reference points of foundation for us to know exactly how pale you are? Like "oh I tried UD Naked Skin 0.5 and it was too dark, but KVD Lock-It 42 was too pale and pink"? As a very pale person with other very pale friends all with different undertones and levels of paleness, there's still a lot of variety even in the lightest shades.

I'd recommend checking out Thataylaa on Youtube. Sooooooo many foundation reviews, and not only does she very thoroughly test quality but also compares them to other foundations. She's looked at a very wide variety of super pale shades at this point. If you live near a Sephora I'd also recommend grabbing samples of anything pale they sell and trying it at home - Ulta doesn't allow samples but at least has a generous return policy.

In a very happy moment for myself, I, at long last, have found my HG foundation!!! I am so overjoyed after trying so many with so many disappointments. Realized I was a bit paler than Thataylaa and ordered Marc Jacobs Remarcable in Ivory Light 10 - it's actually more neutral than pink in my opinion. Expensive, but has crazy coverage with so little, matches my body perfectly, and lasts all day without getting gross like Dermacol and KVD do on me. They better never discontinue this, I will cry now that I have known such happiness.

Question for nail polish users; I just do it on rare occassions since my job is a lot of physical labor that not even gel polish can really stand up to. However, are there top coats and bottom coats out there that are above the pack in terms of quality/longevity? Because I'm really sick of my nails literally falling apart a few hours after I'll put a polish on. Currently I use OPI ones. Thought they'd be good and assumed all top/bottom coats are born equal, wrong. My nails are also super flexible and extremely quickly get small cracks underneath the topcoat from said bending, but I'm guessing there's nothing I can do about that? Or is there a magic product to prevent that?

>>9454430
>My nails are also super flexible
Eat more gelatin or take biotin supplements, it'll make them stronger.

>>9454371
I don't live near Sephora or Ulta sadly, I'm in northern Ontario. I order from Sephora, but foundations are harder to blind-buy. Smashbox's studio skin 1.1 matches me pretty well but it breaks me out... maybe. It might actually just be the primer that breaks me out, I'm trying to find that out. I'll look up Thataylaa, just having a point of reference like that will help a lot. Thanks!!

Can anyone recommend a good colour corrector? Have terribly dark under eye circles that can be seen under concealer.

I long for a matte palette other than KVD to add to my collection, but I am a humble Canadian and pickings are slimmer if I don't wanna get slammed with border fees.
Any good Canadian online brands? With or without matte stuff, I'm open to temptation in any canadian direction.

>>9457511
Can you not just buy from a Canadian based website? Or are you looking more for indie brands?

if i cant use my liquid eyeliner can i just buy an eyeliner pen or pencil form a dollar/discount store

>>9458103
anon what

>>9458103
I feel like dollar store eyeliner would burn your eyes or something, pencil would probably be safer than liquid if you go that route

>>9450957
I bought my Shu Uemura one and it lasted like forever, but I paid around $10. Worth it imho.

Been hearing good things about House of Lashes glue, I personally hate duo glue.

>>9458558
Dollar store cosmetics typically just doesn't work for shit, liquid or pencil. It's a waste of money to go with something subpar, either get something good and return it or like get a mini size or something. love yourself

Can anyone recommend a good foundation for really dry skin? My current one just flakes off my face, which is obviously super gross looking and not good. My current foundation (the Sephora brand one) used to work fine, but I moved to a new province and now my face is just super dry all the time. I don't live near a Sephora so I can't go get samples to try out so I'm hoping someone on this thread can recommend something for me.

Sounds like you need to re-evaluate your skincare too anon. Treat the source 'cause your makeup can only do so much. Look into adding a hydrating toner and a denser cream if you don't already. Hyaluronic acid, ceramides, etc...

Smashbox's Studio Skin 15 Hour Hydrating Foundation was good to me for winter skin personally. Great coverage the hydration it provides isn't of the dewy variety... the finish is satin-y almost. It most certainly isn't matte and flat but it won't provide "glow" per se.

If you want to maybe take a look at some drugstore options L'oreals Tru Match Lumi was really hydrating and touts itself as being the "it" dewy foundation. Personally it oxidized on me so I threw it out, but that could have been due to my particular shade so take that with a grain of salt. It also contains SPF so added skin health bonus.

I am currently using L'oreal Infalliable Pro Glow, its got a comfy dewyness about it and the coverage is top notch, I prefer it over Lumi since it didn't oxidize and I still get my spf.

Fucking, I am a failure
>>9459949 this reply was to you >>9460106

>>9444687
maybelline strobing liquid
retails for about 7.99

>>9459949
I've got Dry skin and have been on a mission to move from my skinfood bb cream to another foundation, I've been getting a bunch of samples from Sephora and testing them out, idk if ordering online is too much of a hassle.

tl;dr the laura mercier candlelight foundation and Marc Jacobs Re(marc)able Full Cover Foundation were good.

Review
Laura Mercier
>good coverage while not looking caked on, very natural and not heavyweight
Tarte Clay Foundation
>Good coverage, disliked because it looked so caked on and heavy on my face, have tried samples multiple times and always though this
Kat Von D Foundation
>really matte, looks and feels a little thick for my taste, good coverage. might be better with KVD powder
Marc Jacobs
>Little goes a long way, holy shit. great coverage without looking heavy.
Sephora Brand 16 hour Foundation
>didn't care for it, light coverage, had to mix with missha bb cream

>>9460487
remarcable is one of my holy grails personally but im surprised you like it? it's supposed to be really shitty for dry skin.

>>9459949
Do you have a specific price range? I have terribly dry skin and after trying a lot of brands I found my holy grail is Armani's Luminous Silk. It's very expensive but a little goes a long way with it. A good moisturizer and primer is also necessary or nothing will look very good.

>>9460487
i have the tarte clay and yeah it is def meant for combo/oily, which is my skin type

>>9444519
I was hoping for something I could use that.. wasn't drag. but I do appreciate your help

So question, does anyone have something like what is pictured? A palette with a lot of different colors that you can recommend?
Or even review?

>>9463449
I have this Morphe pallet and it's really good for the price. It's obviously not super high end but I like it. The only issue is you might need to use a slightly damp brush/ a good primer for the colors to super pop.

>>9463449
don't get the bh cosmetics palette, it's trash. get the morphe instead.

>>9463449

I was about to mention Morphe like >>9463693. It's really cheap and not bad for the price. The problem is that they pay so many youtubers to shill their shit I'm fuckin sick of it.

BH cosmetics also has some, as does coastal scents, but I do not think they are quite as good. Makeup revolution also has a gigantic palette, and I've heard good things about them too, but again, they're shilled hard by the youtube makeup community (who are getting paid under the table) so I'm not sure. I try to stay way from those as I've heard for instance that Morphe just relabels some no name brand's shit most of the time and makeup revolution has this practice of making stylistically uncomfortably close dupes of various palettes.

>>9463786
I'm the one who recommended the Morphe pallete, luckily I don't really follow makeup youtubers other than one girl who doesn't seem to shill much.

I just got a couple Morphe palletes when I went to my makeup school and I really enjoy them. Though I haven't heard about the relabeling; which sucks if it's true.

>>9463449
Coastal scents is really nice as well and for the price is pretty fair

Anyone know of a good dark green lipstick? Not dark like Bite Beauty Kale but more like a deep teal-ish green. I've been researching reviews and so far it seems like almost every green lipstick ever made is either crumbly, patchy, or just doesn't hold up at all. I've been looking at the Sephora Cream Lip Stain in Dark Forest because it's the perfect color, but when I swatched it on my hand in store it came out really patchy. I'm wondering if that's just from other people's oils messing with the formula though, since the sample tube only had a little left on the bottom.

On some people it looks patchy while on others it looks opaque. But every review I've seen for it raves about how great it is. I'm left wondering if there's an inconsistency with the formula or if it performs better on the lips or something. Other lips I'm considering are Too Faced Melted Matte in Wicked and Anastasia Beverly Hills in Requiem.

>>9463786
Yeah, some YTber who works in the cosmetics industry had a video on private labeling a while back. morphe is just a rebranding of crown cosmetics, and you're paying markup for their marketing/"brand".

>>9467414
Try Makeup Monsters, the have a lot of green. Black Moon has a metallic green but it's very forest-y

I never wore makeup before, and I was raised by a single father. None of my female friends wear makeup, either.
Does anyone have any tips and suggestions for an absolute novice?

>>9467557
>watch youtube videos
>you don't need to do everything at once, maybe start out with a couple of things you want to focus on
>get a routine down that works for you
>go to sephora or local makeup store and ask tips for matching foundations, etc

>>9467667
All of the youtube videos I see are of girls doing (in my opinion) way too much makeup that looks unnatural and fake. Even the light makeup, most of the time. Stuff like colored eyeshadow and unnatural lipsticks are just too much for me.
I just want a simple eyeliner, some lip tint, and maybe something to even out my skin-tone? I have heard about stuff like BB cream and "pore erasers". I don't want the full primer+concealer+powder, just a tint, I guess.
So, do you have any recommenced products or channels?

I got into skincare pretty hard, at least. I'm on the full step asian routine. Not sure if that's relevant, though.

>>9467414
Colourpop has one called Dr. M

>>9467729
Then search for natural makeup tutorials on YouTube. The advice still stands.

Anyone have experience with IL Makiage? How do they hold up to other brands in the price range?

>>9467414
Sugarpill

>>9461663
I didn't know! I mean I wore it for a 4 hour shift and it held up, didn't bother my skin, nothing but good things.

>>9467414
Oh and Give Me Glow has some good green/teal options

>>9467729
It sounds like you want to do more of an Asian beauy thing? A lot of good natural/beginner youtubers are mentioned above, Wayne Goss ans Lisa Elridge being the most popular, but I'm guessing if you search for korean beauty tutorials and reviews you'll get more of what you're looking for.

Has anyone given themselves a lash perm before? I stumbled across a YT video on this last night and it looks like a really good alternative to paying $$ for lash extensions. It's some like $10 kit on Amazon.