/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9325784
It'd be nice if poorfags would stop commenting stupid shit like this EVERYWHERE. Why bother complaining about prices? It just makes you look tacky as hell.

>>9325795
For real, god fucking damn
Nobody cares if you think something is expensive because there will ALWAYS be someone out there who doesn't agree with you.

>>9325784
>comparing whatever shit comes up on a Google search to brand prices

fucking kek. Can someone please link the normies to this thread so they can see how stupid they're acting?

>>9325784
clearly this fucking idiot doesn't know the difference between chinese made shit
it's like comparing designer brands to walmart??

All it takes to destroy her argument is to send her some direct links to the brands' websites.

>>9325784
>Now, WW is arguing with people on their FB.
... I'm thinking you're probably the very person they're "arguing with". They're literally just stating a fact, even including a smiley face to make it friendly, and the OP is responding with links to low-tier dresses as if they should adjust their prices based on what the cheapest thing out there is, and not the quality/demand of their own product. They're not arguing at all, OP is being tacky as fuck. And if you're not OP then shame on you for siding with suck a trashy bitter poorfag. You and your kind really need to gtfo our fashion.

>>9325829
You're kidding right. I'm not shitting on WW at all. I saw the convo on RC and felt like this was a topic to discuss. Get off your high horse. I definitely think the person who started shit was in the wrong.

-sigh- Can I get a link to this thread, so that I can create an FB account and educate this stupid whore if no one else does?

Yes, my jimmies are quite rustled.

>>9325841
Idk if it's all still on WW page or anything, I saw the discussion in RC: Uncensored though if you want to investigate.

>>9325841
Don't worry, people have commented back saying telling her she's full of shit for posting Taobao junk and not knowing brand prices.

>>9325834
Sorry, Anon, the statement "Now, WW is arguing with people on their FB" implied to me that you were siding with OP. My bad for jumping to conclusions instead of clarifying.

>>9325850
Nah, it's cool. I didn't mean to word it in a way that criminalized WW, so it is kind of my bad. Definitely no hate on them though. I completely agree w/ you that the person in the pic is tacky as all hell.

>>9325784
My god, I like Wunderwelt even more now. Feels good to be a loyal customer of theirs

>>9325841

>>9325858
I love it.

>>9325858

>>9325864

>>9325866
>excellent customer service
>if you disagree with us, we must sue you

>>9325784
I legitimately feel so sorry for the Haenuli creator and her work. She's stated multiple times not to steal her artwork but random people and tumblr scum just don't listen. She nearly didn't make her artbook over it.

It's times like these where I really love our community. Even the worst of us get chastised for art theft or replicas and often turn around or get chased away. People like her art thieves and the person in the pic have no concept of respecting anything.

>>9325873
I mean, getting into the finer details of why Baby in particular can suck a fat one most of the time is probably not appropriate for that particular discussion. Also afaik they've never threatened to sue? They're just ban-happy even (especially?) when they made the mistake in the first place.

>>9325910
It was years ago, but I believe they threatened to sue a girl who made a post on egl about how a pair of shoes she got from Baby fell apart after the first wear.

>>9325914
Yeah I was thinking of that incident specifically when I mentioned their own mistakes. As I recall they basically told her that her fat gaijin piggu feet were too big and it couldn't possibly be their fault and then dingdong bannu~

>>9325910

>>9325923
Saving. Bless you.

>>9325928
You're welcome.
I once got a 3-day ban for posting this reaction image, use it wisely.

>>9325914
>>9325910
Yeah, the teal deer is that this girl got a shit-tier pair of shoes that essentially disintegrated upon a brief first wear and when she contacted the company, they told her it was because she must have huge feet and then threatened to sue her when she posted the email exchange on EGL. This was 2011 and I've heard very few quality related stories since then, but there's countless stories about their sub par customer service. They ban people for their own mistakes all the time. I'm and avid BtSSB/AatP fan, but I get all my shit from them secondhand other than new releases I absolutely have to have so that I don't have to deal with them after a few run-ins (not banned, just got too many totally illegitimate warnings).

http://egl.livejournal.com/17442509.html
http://egl.livejournal.com/17461361.html

>>9325866
>>9325864
>>9325858
Thank god she had not one, but a plethora of bitches schooling her.

Also glad that Wunderwelt stood up for themselves and told them these kinds of comment are unnecessary.

>>9325942
Anyone got caps of all that alienating, racist shit they said about their Chinese clientele?

>>9325948
I can't find their sponsored posts at all. Can someone post a link or do I have to just stumble across one of them?

>>9325942
>>9325873
I got a NWT JSK from BTSSB NYC and the tulle was ripped at the bottom. I felt like there was probably nothing I could do about it since I'd had the dress for like a month hanging in my closet before I'd noticed it. sigh, I still need to figure out how to fix it

>>9325795
I know, can't afford it? Don't fucking buy it then, no one gives a shit about it.

>>9325858
The question is, why are they bothering to reply?

>>9325784
hoooly shit, that is so fucking disrespectful.
not knowing the difference between taobao indie and brand? being that ignorant, but yet arrogant, to a nice, awesome company?

While WW can price their used stuff a bit on the highside compared to CC and AF, it's still pretty good. Fuck these non-lolitas, why are they even visiting the page?

>umm, yeah your secondhand Lexus with 3000 miles is overpriced. I found this shitty Honda Accord for like 900 bucks on craigslist which is definitely the same thing.
>SCALPURRRS asdfj!

Some Lace Market shit.
This has been sitting in my messages.
Thought I would drop it.

I still can't tell if it is some copypasta and the user is just some elaborate troll.

>>9326070
holy fucking kek, what dress were you selling to get such an "amazing" offer

>>9326091
AatP Porz Kerchief.

Clearly worth it...

>>9326070
Dealt with this person and she is 100% real.

>>9326051
WW has been using the "sponsored post" feature and apparently they don't know how to target their ads to the appropriate audience, so it's just showing up everywhere.

>tfw some bitch says she wants to turn enchantilly into a lampshade

>>9326104
Sage for OT but what colourway are you selling?

Fucking meme arrows on facebook.
You gotta be here somewhere you cringey piece of shit.

>>9326226
>Start working for a online marketing company
>Learning how to help businesses target the right audiences
>How to collect reviews from customers
>Wish I could get lolita brands and resellers to start this so I can help spread my love of the fashion
Hopefully after I've worked there a while I can contact our sales team and see if I can convince them to contact some brands (Maybe even give them discounts) so things like this would be less likely to happen in the future. Plus how awesome would it be to see picture reviews on brand websites instead of having to search them up everywhere?

>>9326070
All other content aside ..

>sweetie

fuck off

>>9326271
>meme arrows

>>9326070
>>9326178
Same and shame this bitch please

>>9326271
i die inside a little when friends do this

pls stop gulls

>>9325784
Some people are commenting that it's because Wunderwelt set up advertising to appear to normies, but these seem like the types of people to bitch about clothing prices no matter what.
We have them in normie fashion retail too, they can get real nasty when you tell them that they can't have their way. Customers have been so coddled that they don't know the difference between fair and unreasonable prices, just that both are too high and they deserve the best for cheap*, free in fact.

This behavior just speaks for a culture problem in general imo.

>>9325795
Some people think having the ability to look prices up online means they are an expert in the market

>>9326339
The only reason it's a thing here is because it'll change the color of the text. hence green text stories... there's literally no fucking reason to be doing it on any other site..

>>9326274
you just started working for mercari, didn't you?

>>9326570
Mercari isn't a marketing firm.

>>9326570
Haha no, I'm sure you've seen our software around on web stores but I can't mention it by name because we a have tracking on mentions of the company name. Though it would be amusing to direct our internal SEO people to 4chan :^)

Even if WW enabled ads to go everywhere, I don't see how that makes the comments any more understandable. They're bullshit by normal standards.

>>9326602
Tone it down a bit Lauren.

>>9326615
People will bitch about anything on Facebook. Having a Facebook ad just opens up the floodgates.

>>9326616
HA.

>>9325784
>>9325795
The saddest part is that I bought my cheapest brand from Wunderwelt.

>>9326070
This person messaged me too! Not the same message but I recognize the items they are offering.

>>9326070
>>9326178
>>9326701
Message the Mods on LM. Tell them this kind of solicitation needs to stop.

>>9326698
Yeah me too. Wunderwelt lacemarket auctions are a great way to get cheap brand. Usually I get items for ~$50 or less there

>>9327118
Unless this is some e-celeb you should probably scribble the name out

>>9327122
>not knowing Frances
Your newfag is showing. Don't police others unless you know what you're talking about.

>>9326271
they're countering racism with more racism

why are people so fucking stupid

>>9326070
>>9326091
>>9326104
>>9326178


Real talk, why instead hasn't she perhaps offered to pay with a credit card for the dress she must have instead of offering trades?
Then sell all of these older dresses?

Or even fucking paypal offers paypal credit with no interest for I think 6 months or some shit why can't people do that instead of offering trades of at most garbage...?

>>9327129
Who is she?

>>9327189
you don't want to open that can of worms

>>9327192
more like opening an egg of nylons

>>9327189
This is what the archives are for. Look it up.

>>9326070
If this is who I think it is she tried to scam the shit out of me when I bought a dress off her. Kept making up excuses to make me pay paypal fees until I finally got the mods involved. When the dress came it was not "new without tags" there were lots of stains on the inner lining that I hadn't even noticed until I had a closer look. I didn't bother contacting her about it because she'd been a massive pain and I'd rather just go wash it myself.

>>9327202
I almost choked

>>9327189
*he

>>9326230
It was red ver. Though I have sold it.

>>9326178
I mean even the username, made me question.

>>9327145
At the time I did say I would accept 'reasonable trades'.
I just could not get over them offering a replica for brand.
What.

Though I agree with you.

>>9327202
I love you, anon

this is the dumbest fucking event i've ever seen

>>9329153

>>9329154
How dare they consider sending colorful postcards as opposed to beating up some Starbucks cafes.

>>9329153
>>9329154

I'm not sure how sending kawaii postcards as opposed to formal letters to representatives will make them take your claim seriously, but it's better than torching shit.

>>9329162
Dear purasidanto,
onegai don't take my kawaii anime away desu.

arigatou,
stay kawaii trump card-chan. (´・ω・`)

>>9329153
>>9329154
I think it's fine. If only more violent protestors would write postcards and letters instead of bashing in a Starbucks.

>>9326616
>my name is lauren
>work marketing for a company
>not me

>>9329230
10/10 will change the world

That's what you get for buying a fucking replica

>>9329361
She was trying to purchase a replica? I wonder if she feels cheated. Hm. Perhaps she feels betrayed. Weird. Almost as if illegal activity has had a negative impact on her finances. Odd.

>>9329361
Is it wrong of me to feel like anyone who buys print replicas deserves to be scammed?

Also, can't she just file a Pay Pal dispute?

>>9329526
I don't think so, aren't replicas considered illegal merchandise?

>>9329230
I was moved to tears
>>9329153
>>9329154
This is kind of sweet, but pretty useless other than perhaps being therapeutic for some.

>>9329532
Also, she agreed to send the money as gift. She asked for this.

>>9329153
I actually think this design is cute but this >>9329154 is fucking ridiculous in so many levels.

>>9326271
I'm just as offended by you calling greentext meme arrows as I am her use of them on FB
>>9327132
It's not even a good point she's making. The better argument is the obvious fact that lolita is just a glorious bastardization of Western fashion, so obviously Japanese people have no exclusive claim to it.

>>9329535
This whole exchange just has 'stupid' written all over it. I understand people are a lot more trusting than they should be, but come on, sending money as a gift? That's such a huge red flag. I've done it before, but only with sellers I'd done business with before and did it more as a favor for their great service.

>>9326070
I fucking hate people who offer their entire closet cleaning offbrand garbage pile for lovely brand dresses, even when you've made it clear you want to sell.

You and the other people in the thread she's contacted should report her, otherwise she's just going to keep pulling this shit with other people. Also, isn't it against the rules of LM to have any transition that involves a replica?

>>9326070
Bitch get the fuck.

>>9329532
Indeed they are, selling them is illegal and in some countries so is buying them.
>>9329535
>>9329543
I would feel bad for a newbie to online buying making that mistake, but since bitch was buying a knock-off, it's just plain karma.

>>9329535
What a dumbass

>>9329361
I'm a mod of some of these sales groups and frequently posting about how you shouldn't buy from people with obviously fake names "misu sweetie chan" and people who ask for payment as a gift.

Replica itas aren't just poorly dressed, they're retarded too. They deserve to have their money scammed away from them.

'Uk sales'

>>9329653
i wish so badly to know that girl's yt

>>9329562
>some countries so is buying them

Technically the US, UK and Australia. I'm sure there's more, but when I worked for US customs that fact was beat into our heads.

So, either I'm not the only person to message Wunderwelt about this, or they have someone lurking /cgl/ or RC:U

I messaged them to suggest that they might want to change their advertisement targeting because of all the shitty comments they've been getting (might give them a break from having to moderate comments like theyre a forum mod or something) and one of the first things they said that was people are saying "on the internet" about their ads targeting "everyone" isn't true.

>>9325993
Does she not realise that Lolita is inspired by historic Western trends and Western dolls?

>>9330599
It doesn't matter because Japanese girls started the trend, so that means it's 100% Japanese and white people shouldnt be wearing it, duh.

>>9330605
She can try to pry my brand out of my cold dead hands.

>>9330637
Good news for you anon, SJWs only talk shit and do nothing outside of cyber bullying. Or, they'll protest for a day then go back to bitching online. Your brand is safe.

>>9329153
>>9329154
Something I don't want to see, politically active lolitas. Please keep it away, I don't want to get involve.

>>9329271
Because sending letters defeated fascism last time too

>>9330466
I can't believe some people actually care so much about this and thought a successful company needed to hear their concerns about marketing

>>9330599
>>9330605
IMO when people start crying about cultural appropriation it's better to bring up how brands sell internationally, designers travel overseas to visit and sell at American an European conventions and brands have even opened stores in Paris, New York etc. Because how are we stealing their subculture when its creators are flying around the world to sell it to us? Clearly they're fine with crusty whities wearing lolita.

I'm mostly saying this because I've had SJW's on my feed who freaked out at the Victorian/rococo mentions, because supposedly those aesthetics were forced onto these poor 21st century Japanese PoCs and them wearing lolita is a uniquely Japanese/Chinese/Korean/kawaii azn expression of anti-imperialist rebellion or some shit. One girl got called a white supremacist for posting a picture of Marie Antoinette to compare to a lolita picture from the original post. Better to avoid any mention of European culture so they don't get #triggered, and instead call attention to the fact that Japanese lolita creators clearly don't seem to think we're appropriating shitlords.

>>9331620
This. I always like to point out how some person could easily buy an AP dress in Paris or San Francisco without knowing much of lolita. There is nothing distintive of the japanese culture about it. I even know a person who only buys her lolita clothes in her country on second hand sites.

>>9331620
i don't think i've ever seen a japanese person cry culture appropriation about lolita, it's always fat whtie sjws and BLM shitposters

This is so dumb. Keep your politics out of my frilly fashion.

>>9333019
This is the laziest tucking thing I've ever seen..
>I don't want to expend any energy ACTUALLY getting involved in politics, dressing differently than other people is a form of REBELLION against evil republicans!!!

what a fucking loser lmao

>>9333019
wtf authoritarian?? does she not understand how our government works?
who voted to make Trump king dictator of America?
>the answer is no one.

>>9333019
This is just as stupid as the 'let's send kawaii letters to our senators!!'

>>9333047
no it's not.
writing to your reps is always good, they have to know the thoughts and feelings of those in their jurisdiction. I think postcard girl has a good basic idea. the problem is she's trying to make this a lolita meet.
everyone knows we all differ in thinking politically. a meet like this would just turn into a fight. Sally and Mary may be just as enthusiastic about this activity, but one may write "Please Help Build the Wall" in big pink letters, while the other writes "Please Help My Family Stay in the U.S."
it just wouldn't work.

>>9333019, is a straight up uninformed liability to any cause.

>>9333019

>>9333019
I wore Lolita while voting for Trump. Building a wall, baby.

>>9333070
You mean Sally and Maria ;)

>>9333125
haha
there are immigrants from other countries too tho

>>9333070
I'm in this comm, and because of where it's located you can pretty much assume people political position.

>>9333070
Writing to your representatives is great, and I think everyone should do it, but not using cute stationary with gel pens and stickers. Anything said in a letter like that will be immediately disregarded. Letters to senators or congress need to be professional, not look like they were written by 6 year old girls.

>>9333019
Damn RC, it's riddled with libtard sjw's sadly.
I too wished they'd leave politics out of fashion anon.

>>9333019
>wants to fight capitalism with a fashion that's basically capitalism in frilly form
ok

This gave me a laugh today.

This gave me a laugh today.

>>9333272
kek

>>9333272
How are people that stupid?

>>9333019
>one girl mentions in passing that she voted Trump
>everyone loses their shit
This was a recipe for disaster.

>>9330791
Better than pussyfooting around

>>9333703
Public schools got de-funded

>>9333738
I really want to comment on that but I don't feel like getting into it with these people. I am a liberal and I get so fucking embarrassed by how other liberals treat trump voters. If you honestly want to change minds, just talk to them. Don't yell at them, don't call them "deluded" or "insane", don't spit on them or whatever. They've probably never had an actual civil conversation with a liberal before.

>>9333772
They are in such disbelief that anyone could think outside of their bubble. And I don't mean a general left wing mindset bubble- I mean the "Trump is literally Hitler 2.0 and if you don't agree then I'll be glad to block you" tumblr bubble. Not to mention the person commenting is trans and a Singaporean immigrant. People couldn't wrap their heads around it and tried to call troll. I guess they're been so deep into the tumblr echo chamber that they don't know a lot of trans women and legal immigrant in real life supported Trump for whatever reasoning.

More on topic, why would anyone think protesting in Lolita is a good idea? People will notice you if you start yelling regardless of what you wear, but in Lolita people will be wondering what the hell you're wearing instead of focusing to what you have to say.

Gawd are you fucking serious

>>9333865
I don't think so. I think it was an attempt at 'humour'

>>9333772
Don't even do that

Trump voters are some of the dumbest people in this country when it comes to politics. Their only redeeming worth is their blind faith to anyone with an (R) next their name.
Instead of treating them like they treated us for the past 8 years (like shit) or wasting your time trying to change their mind, just go out and vote.


Trump voters will never consider a liberal viewpoint, not when they've spent the past 8 years demonizing anything remotely affiliated with Obama. Shame on you for being naive enough to think they'll change

>>9333779
>Trump is literally Hitler 2.0
> No shit

You realize the only reason why people are saying that is because many of his campaign promises echoed Hitler's promises and actions leading up to and during the war? Like, just because Trans, immigrants, and 3 Uncle Toms voted for him doesn't mean that all accusations against him are void. You really need to get out of the 4chan echo chamber and pay attention to whats going on in the world.

>>9333019
All these girls trying to shoehorn wearing lolita into their libtard tumblr ideology are just insecure about the fact that they like a overtly feminine fashion. Like come on, if you were really subversive, you would shun fashion as a concept entirely.

>>9333934
>nsecure about the fact that they like a overtly feminine fashion
>if you were really subversive, you would shun fashion
...huh? So you hate lolita in general? Pretty sure one of the founding reasons for the fashion in Japan was precisely to subvert mainstream culture and expectations.

>>9333911
It's anti-semitic to say Trump is Hilter

>>9333944
Anon, that's within the context of Japan, not America. Within the states it can take on different meanings.

I find it fucking stupid to wear lolita to a political rally or a demonstration.

>>9333954
lmao

>>9333779
>Protesting in Lolita

Please don't. This is a matter of safety and practicality. Dress for warmth, comfort, and ability to move quickly if you need to. Idk what rally you're going to, but you ought to prepare for doxxing and/or police actions like pepperspray, let alone standing outside in a crowd for sometime. I actually plan on attending a meetup after a rally, but I have no plans to sweat in my favorite print.

>>9333019
Oh god. This girl is known for being a huge SJW in general. She's really anti-police and BLM shit. She always asks for recommendations for "black businesses" to hire for plumbing, etc.

>>9333967
I'm assuming you don't know what the ADL is then

>>9333965
>>9333980
this. unless you are protesting something lolita-related (like if there's a shady lolita store whose business practices you want to picket or something) and/or you don't mind ruining your dress. i could understand a daily lolita protesting a random issue in lolita because that's just what she wears all the time and has some pieces set aside to sweat/get water-hosed in, but most current lolitas coord for likes and would dress and act accordingly.

>>9333907
I don't deal with situations in black and white. Some trump voters are like that, some aren't. Shame on you for generalizing and not understanding that people are different and have different reasons (shallow though they may be) for doing this

>>9333907
So you think all lolitas are ageplayers and have Daddy issues. Stop labeling them under a single umbrella. I know some Trump supporters who support LGBT rights.

>>9333238

>>9333907
Must be nice to be so far up your own ass that you'll never have to schedule a colonoscopy, seeing as you'll be able to detect any polyps yourself.

>>9334377
>Colonoscopy and polyps mention
>tfw that's my job field
I love you anon may you be free of colon cancer for the rest of your life

>>9333238
I know right
Lolita is extremely self-indulgent. It boggles my mind whenever my comm members talk about how we are such a good influence the community. One girl wanted to do "charity" which consisted of us walking around the city, taking photos and then sending those photos to sick kids in the hospital to show them ~princesses are real~. Doing exactly what you'd normally do on the weekend and rubbing it in sick children's faces isn't charity, you delusional narcissist.

>>9333911
The whole Literally Hitler thing was used to death by tumblrinas to describe pretty much anyone they didn't like, plus Godwin's Law is almost as old as the internet, so you could say it's lost its 'value' if that's the right word. But you're right that much of Western Europe is going "holy shit deja vu" at the moment.

>>9333965
>>9333980
>>9334088
Also this. I bet most of the people saying they'll go protest in lolita have never been to a real rally before and just think this is a nice photoshoot opportunity to earn both kawaii and political points. That's not how this works...

Wah wah wah someone got my art tattooed on them!

>>9334761
Tbf, it IS pretty shitty to just get somebody else's stuff tattooed on you, especially when the artist isn't as huge as for ie Disney and therefore isn't considered popular culture. Even if the art doesn't have the personal meaning it has for Nunu, you basically use somebody's work for free.
I kinda get not wanting to pay for the design, but at least don't be a jerk and ask the artist.

>>9334761
I'd be pissed off too, you should have the common decent to ask to blantantly steal someone's art as your tattoo. A lot of people who get tattoos have zero respect. And didn't these designs surface on fb like a month ago? Give me a fucking break.

>>9334761
Tbh I just think the person is an idiot for asking nunu and making it known they went ahead without permission.
Nunu's designs were bound to be stolen the second I saw that public fb post going around last month and how much traction it gained with non-members of the lolita community. People think shit is free domain the second it gets big. I understand why Nunu is sad, but I could've seen it coming.

>>9333963
I agree that people shouldn't wear lolita to rallies, just because it can get physical and it's just not practical.

But cmon man, the message behind lolita doesn't change just because it came to America.

>>9334761
bitch, no.
respect the artist's decision. let's use an essay as an example: If you write an essay about the horrible, very personal experiences you went through and someone just decides to use it as a speech even though you told them not to, then you'd be pissed too.

>>9334761
To be honest if someone got such a shittastic tattoo of my art I'd be upset too.

>>9334797
Japanese culture is very different from American culture, so a fashion that developed in defiance of Japanese culture does lose a significant part of its message when viewed in an American context. Lolita developed in a culture where women were (often still are) expected to drop all self-indulgent hobbies once they get married and become housewives, generally in their early to mid twenties. Additionally, sticking out in any way is considered a huge faux pas. For many young Japanese women in the late 90s and early 00s, lolita was a way to buck those expectations and basically go "I can spend time and money on myself if I want to and look cute as fuck in the process, in a way that is not necessarily attractive to men because I'm doing this for me and not to find a husband".
While it's true that many young Western women might identify with this as well, you have to admit that the majority of us don't face the same kind of societal pressures that young Japanese women did or do. Unless you live in an intensely conservative area, which probably don't have the kind of rallies that anons were talking about.

>>9334761
I hope you aren't someone who is against replicas, because if you're against replicas but you don't understand why tattooing other artists works without their permission is shitty you're a gargantuan dumbass.

>>9334761
All those normies commenting on it telling her that she should be happy about this and to "get over it" are making me sick

>>9334915
Agreed. Many artists feel incredibly honored and elated whenever people get tattoos of their work, but most fans should be considerate of the artist's wishes and a true fan wouldn't disrespect the artist's wishes like this. I'm not sad that her art got so much attention but I'm really sad that people don't know how to respect art and artists.

>>9334858
>expected to drop all self-indulgent hobbies once they get married
That's pretty much the same here in America, at least when the married couple decides to have children. Maybe liberal women aren't as traditional, but no joke in the thread last week about those lolita moms bitching about not being able to participate in old hobbies bc of their kids, lots of people said "children come first after you have them." Because, generally speaking, that's what people expect. People expect housewives to drop hobbies and prioritize the happiness and needs of their husbands and children first. And to also keep house and cook.
On the other hand, married men with children won't be expected to sacrifice their hobbies as much because it's assumed they have a wife taking care of the responsibility.

I'd argue it's worse for Western women because on top of domestic responsibilities, and expectations for marriage and children, they're also expected to have went to college and work a well-paid 40hr/week job. Or else they're leeches and welfare queens. Or "spoiled housewives."
American women are seen as frivolous, irresponsible, or shallow if they spend any amount of time or money on fashions that make them feel good about their image.

And the criticisms of the marches I've seen are the embodiment of what happens when western women start to think about their needs and rights:
>"oh, what are those women doing protesting all day when they should surely be employed or have kids to take care of during the day?"
This attitude that women are shamed for not constantly putting others before them is alive and well.

You're right, it's different, but both come to the same conclusions.

>>9334761
What about sailor moon tattoos? Hello kitty? The examples are endless

>>9334957
They're not examples of indie artists' work.

>>9334957
It's like what the other anon mentioned about Disney. They're already huge companies. Plus usually they commission the tattoo artists to illustrate it themselves, it's not like they print an image off Google and that's it.

>>9334929
Except nobody is telling lolita moms to stop participating in the fashion, they're just asked not to drag their children along to meetups.

>>9334761
Doesn't Korean society have a different attitude on tattoos anyway?

>>9334929
You have one hell of a victim complex.

>>9334044
>She always asks for recommendations for "black businesses" to hire for plumbing, etc.
Good on her DESU.

>>9335127
Yes they are scene as something only criminal would have. VICE actually made a documentary about the underground Korean tattoo artists, it's a pretty good watch but I find the host a bit annoying at times.

>>9335011
Ok. Besides the cherry pick, what about the main point?

>>9335179
The main point is whining that women are expected to be mature and responsible when they have children and shouldn't be frivolously spending money on stupid shit. Seems more like common sense than societal oppression.

>>9335193
Not just women with children, people get quite angry and indignant with women when they spend money on fashion at all if they feel they should be spending on something else, regardless if their shit is together.

I meant to interrupt OP's yellow fever, that societal expectations don't just hit Japanese women. Which is the main point, friendo.
>>>/r9k/

>>9335244
Asia has several common, socially acceptable derogatory terms for unmarried women over 25. They're considered unwanted, broken and in some cases mentally ill simply for not being housewives. Tell me more about how white women are totally oppressed because people expect them to look after their children.

>>9334761
>be me, get unauthorized tattoo of someones art.
>original artist likes it so much that he posts pictures of my ink on his facebook.

Yeah, sometimes this does work out. But she should have gone to a better artist.

>>9334761
I think she's overreacting. Haenuli doesn't tattoo so it's not like that's money that she's missing out on because she wouldn't have gotten it to begin with. I could understand if she DID tattoo and this person chose to find some cheaper tattoo artist to do it instead but that's not the case.
I don't know whether the person who got the tattoo or the tattoo artist are crediting Haenuli for the artwork itself so I can't comment on that, though it'd obviously be really shitty of them if they didn't.
I do agree that the tattoo artist isn't very good.

>>9334927
Yeah, my dad did a piece of comic fanart that became a fairly common tattoo for that fandom and he has an album full of hideous tattoos of his work along with traces people did of it and replaced his signature with theirs. He was really annoyed by it for a while because almost none of the tattoos are even good and nobody ever asked him, but now he's mostly amused. Hopefully Nunu gets over the shock of this happening soon and starts to find it funny too. It's really shitty for people to do, but you can't really stop them from them from doing it so you might as well have a laugh.

>>9335127
Yeah, they have really strict laws on it and it's illegal for anyone to tattoo who isn't a license medical doctor, so tattoo artists really aren't much of a thing. That may play a big part in her negative reaction to the tattoos, since they're still aligned wth criminal behaviour over there.

>>9336614
show us the tattoos anon-chan

>>9335843
>pissing contest of how oppressed women are
Yep, this is cgl alright.

>>9336619
It's probably going to out me, but I'll post it for your amusement. He's not famous by any means but for some reason people really want to get badly done copies of his stuff on their bodies. This isn't even all of them.
1/4

>>9336636
Moobs-chan is my personal favorite.

>>9336637

>>9336638
The weirdest part is all the people who decided it would look better with legs. The original was thigh up.

>>9336638
>missile tits
Best interpretation.

>>9336639
ty for reminding me my lil sis needs to watch TG

>"Ain't gon be no crumpets and tea!"

>>9336639
My personal favorite is this one, its so obvious that whoever added the legs has No idea how to draw them and feet, and the fact that the person who got the tattoo looked at the legs and thought "yes, this is good"... Yikes.

>>9336487
I doubt that artist specifically said multiple times that they do not want tattoos of their work, no matter how good or bad, like haenuli has.

>>9336639
thanks anon, that shit's beautiful. I keep being baffled and highly amused by how many people decide to get hideous tattoos, and how many tattoo "artists" think that nonsensical shading makes their shitty work better somehow.

>>9342819
>inb4 lighter skinned asians aren't considered people of color

>>9336776
>tfw you don't see anything wrong with the legs

>>9342819
Isn't this discrimination? Oh wait, it's okay because they are black. Whoops.

I consider myself a socialist liberal degenerate, but this does nothing but separate people further and build boundaries between us.

Not related to lolita - this was on the fairy kei group. But, what do you gulls think of this kind of thing? I can post comments from this thread too if you want, there were varying opinions for sure. But what are your opinions?

>>9342843
Also sorry for the Forever 21 highlight - I was trying to locate the post in the group.

>>9342837
It is. I'm "POC" and I find this incredibly distasteful

>>9342843
Boycotting every major corporation with shady business practices would mean boycotting almost every major corporation. Not saying it's totally pointless, and you do what's best for you, but there will always be people who continue to shop at these stores and keep them in business. If you really want to buy something from them, might as well do it.

That being said, a lot of normie shit isn't appropriate for lolita anyway, so might as well just buy second hand, or support indie brands or something.

>>9342849
I'm OP on that post and I agree. There were so many SJWs commenting though. It's impossible to be ethical in every area of your life because no matter what, someone somewhere is having a bad time bc of it (from fashion to factory farming). I just thought responses were interesting / funny.

>>9342843
I wish people in jfash would try to buy less products that test on animals since there are other ways to test cosmetics. But yes, that poster is right. I say try to buy basics from companies with good business practices but it is ok if you really want something not sold anywhere else. Trying to be mindful is all we can really do.

Now that asshole threatening people about the sweaters was another story entirely... he should be burned at the stake.

>>9342843
Who shops for clothing at Walmart honestly? That's so tacky

>>9342819
omfg I saw someone else do this; It's so tone deaf. Yeah there's issues with how PoC are sometimes treated, no a 'PoC only meet' isn't going to solve any of them. The girl I saw try to make a PoC meet was white too so it was just a whole nother level of wtf.

>>9342843
Agree with this poster however most major fashion retailers are no better. I myself rarely buy new clothing and if so it is only from carefully vetted environmentally and socially sustainable sources.
The same people complaining that they can't afford more generally buy far too much shitty clothes, if they saved this up and only bought one item every month or so I'm sure they'd be able to buy something more expensive. But they won't, because muh consumerism.

>>9342819
You are in a group for poc and you are cringing about a meet for poc? Do you see the irony?

>>9325784
>be me
>poorest fag I know; under the poverty line
> Go without, save pennies, cook own food
> Buy up to three secondhand brand dresses a year
> Every Lolita that lives on double what I do complains that the fashion is unaffordable
>Other lolitas are bitter at me because they think I am rich
>Happy to have my wardrobe, but now has no Lolita friends

>>9342819
This shit is exactly why conservatives think liberals are more racist than them.

>>9342970
Except I'm black too lol. It made me uncomfortable and I wanted somewhere to talk about it without being called a self hating Uncle Tom. Is that a problem or..?

>>9342983
are you me? my rich friend asked me to buy her brand for christmas and got me tictacs and a pencil

>>9342984
... Because, right now, it's true. It'll flip-flop back over in a few years but that's how it is right now. I think the way you fix things is to stop modifying the concept of discrimination and go back to it's literal meaning; i.e. there is no group that is morally allowed to discriminate over another as a form of karmic payback.

>>9342998
I know how you feel anon; people can create these awkward situations where you simply can't be open with your opinion. Not because your thoughts are radical, but because you aren't agreeing with the majority.

>>9343034
Maybe our poorfag wallets are long-lost twins separated from birth!

>>9343036
This is why I don't share my opinion. Especially in today's world where even breathing is offensive. Keep it to yourself and you hurt no one and you don't have to deal with others trying to convert you like Mormons on your doorstep. I just let other spout their opinions and just tune them out. Try and change the subject and wow crisis diverted.

>>9343048
Until someone gets pissy at you for trying to change the subject and 'silencing' them, which happened to me before I figure out who in my comm is crazy (both left wing and right wing) and who isn't. When you encounter a bad one there's sometimes nothing you can do that won't set them off.

>>9343053
That's when you walk away and actually silence them because they are on their war horse. Seriously. All it will do is make them mad and make fools of themselves like a toddler throwing a temper tantrum. Get posted on btbs or here because you don't want to stoke bernies dick in a public debate and actually want to talk about Lolita at a Lolita meet? Okay you're not the child that started to get heated over politics at a Lolita meet. It's not hard to ignore those that feel the world needs to know their opinions matter.

I'm surprised OP of the pajama furries thread didn't get more shit for lying about having worn lolita ever.

>>9343036
>people can create these awkward situations where you simply can't be open with your opinion. Not because your thoughts are radical, but because you aren't agreeing with the majority.

Yup. It really gets me down sometimes because I often feel ostracized and like I don't belong in places where I shouldn't be feeling that way (like a group for PoC lolitas such as myself, for example)

maybe better to just start a "things tagged as lolita fashion" cringe thread

an 18 year old drew this

>Tfw loads of leftie retards in my comm

I dunno how much more I can take

>>9343128
And these are adults who create these hostile atmospheres. Adult women (usually, since it's lolita) who want an echo chamber and who lash out at anyone who disagrees. It's so irritating. I don't really like talking about politics too much, but I can at least hold a pretty civil convo with someone with opposing views--even if I secretly wanna scream. It's just how adults behave.

>>9343149
This fashion attracts princess types of women. Many of them where spoiled little brats as children that their parents caved when they threw a tantrum because they where told no. Also the type where mommy and daddy used Disney movies to baby sit instead of teaching them proper manners in social skills.

>>9343146
Age doesn't mean talent though. They could have just gotten into drawing later in their life and or don't practice like more skilled artist have. It takes a lot of practice to have good art. But you're always practicing to be better.

>>9343148
just convince them to let you give them a lift to the next event in your private helicopter

>>9342819
This stuff just totally confirms for me that identity politics are a divide and conquer tactic. There's zero reason to exclude white girls from your meet. It's just so funny to me that these groups demand to be included by everyone else, but won't include everyone themselves and are the only ones actively discriminating.

>>9333757
desu it's because public schools got funded

>>9333907
What are you even on about? Trump created huge distance between himself and traditional neo-con republican establishment politics. His win came from a sway in minority voters from democrats to republicans, because the 2016 democrat election platform was "if you don't like progressivism and mass immigration then you are a bigot"

You are doing exactly what you claim that republicans are doing - never considering the [other party's] viewpoint. you know why the left is losing? because they've learned from the neither election nor brexit and still tend to push the idea that you can only be a republican if you are malicious, evil and dumb.
you will lose in 2020 too unless you get off your fucking pedestal and understand that almost every political ideology is founded on the idea that it is the one that is most moral.

>>9333911
the only demographic of people who voted for trump less than they voted for romney were old, white, religious, rich, straight males. every other demographic voted more for trump than romney. stop speaking on their behalf.

>go to Facebook it's all about political debates
>go to Tumblr it's all political debates
>go to news it's all political debates
>go to 4chan it's all politial debates

I guess I'll just put on Netflix and continue working on my cosplays since that's all I can do to get away from people crying about politics. I don't like the path it's gone too but Jesus Christ you guys are obnoxious and loud for no reason.

>>9343223
you're like my cosplay counterpart. i'm a lolita but i'm sick of political things infiltrating our meets so i'm just going to sit at home and embroider. i don't really understand why it has to be so prevalent in both of our communities when it's irrelevant to what the community is actually about

>>9343167
I was half raised by Disney princess movies and I still know better than to throw a tantrum when someone doesn't want to listen to me ranting. Cinderella taught me better than that, goshdangit.

>>9343223
>>9343226
Same here. Blankets, knitting and Netflix or old movies. Sometimes Instagram, but only in certain tags.

>>9343226
I'm also a Lolita but I don't sew Lolita. It's cheaper to buy then to make. My community talks about it a lot too. There's no escaping it.

>>9343233
I actually have a pair of socks im knitting that I need to finish. Thanks for reminding me.

>>9343233
>>9343241
>two other lolitas who are also knitters and who also hate how everybody is screaming about politics

dang what are the odds. i'm making mittens now

>>9342843
wait, so... there are people who didn't know fast fashion is made by children in poor countries? or is this group full of pre-teens who are just discovering the world?

>>9343243
And never the three shall meet (IRL) because we're all bundled up in our homes waiting for everyone else to stfu

>>9342983
People never seem to take into account that some people adjust their lifestyle to pay for hobbies.

>>9343253
>pre-teens who are just discovering the world

It's the fairy-kei group so yes.

>>9342843
I couldn't care less. So long as the employees are legally eligible to work and are doing so of their own volition, the companies affording them the opportunity are doing nothing wrong.

Wew lass

>>9325873
>>9325910
>>9325914
>>9325920
Just so its out there and known, the girl that you guys are talking about dosen't work for Baby anymore. She was let go because of the instances stated above and they have a new customer service rep that speaks english fluently and just handles international orders.

>>9343223
It'll slow down in a month or two, until then /pol will continue to infect all the boards

>>9343185
This. I'm so fucking tired of hearing "WHITE PEOPLE RUINED AMERICA!!"
Trump got greater support from minorities than Romney or McCain before him.

Trump made gains among blacks. He made gains among Latinos. He made gains among Asians. The only major racial group where he didn’t get a gain of greater than 5% was white people.
So if anyone ruined America it's apparently minorities. LOL.

>>9343500
Do you have any stats for people with red hair?

>>9343500
how on earth can you say "minorities ruined america" when the majority of them did not vote for trump? (which is even shown in your own statistics?)

itt white people are illogically angry

>>9343391
Her blog is a gem.

>>9343534
Does this really matter because your country would be shit either way.

>>9343534
Not that anon but please keep in mind a lot of minorities did not even vote.

>>9343534
Not really. The claim wasn't that the majority of minorities votes for Trump, but that the swing voters (those who swung from D to R from the 2012 election) were mostly minorities, and without this swing Trump would not have been elected. Whites, males, old people, religious people, voted less for Trump than for Romney. Those who were lured in by Trump's rhetoric were the minorities.

>>9343065
There should be a basic etiquette at meets since it is mixed company.

No taking about: religion, sex, or politics.

That's the rule at my work.

>>9343167
>Also the type where mommy and daddy used Disney movies to baby sit instead of teaching them proper manners in social skills.

Just you wait. Now it's smartphones and ipads.

It's gonna really suck in 20 years.

>>9343683
g8 b8 m8

>>9344009
>except that it's true
>any candidate relying on the minority/millennial vote is doomed
>RIP Sanders
>RIP Clinton

>>9343698
You're acting like it doesn't suck now that those born in 2000 are 18 next year. they grew up with Internet, cellphones, videogames, MySpace, Facebook texting. Not even starting on how they hit their teens with smart phones, Tumblr, wifi, trophies for showing up. Parents these days are not involved with their kids. They haven't been for at least 30 years.

>>9344024
Have you never heard of helicopter parenting? Its not like its ever been much better. MAYBE between the 40s and 80s parents were more involved. And most of those are kids are now baby boomers who are arguably the shittiest generation.

>>9344207
You sound like a current wave feminist who gets mad when the wifi is down.

>>9344024

>>9344207

people who generalise baby boomers make me roll my eyes to the back of my head. It's a surefire way of letting me know you're someone who likes to shift blame on everyone else.

>>9344207
You can't blame the baby boomers for your problems anon. Your problems are yours to solve and not someone else holding your hand into it. Yeah things are harder then it was when they where young but the world is greatly more populated that it has to be more difficult to get things done because there's more people trying for the same thing. It's a fight to get what you want. But screaming and pointing at someone who had to do it in a different time frame isn't going to solve your problem. Just makes you look like your the child throwing a tantrum because you didn't get what you wanted without earning it,

>>9344268
People who blame generations in general are incredibly annoying. I don't see how people don't see it as stupid as hating on someone because of their zodiac sign, but even more broad. People born within a certain decade do not all behave the same and have different cultures and lifestyles that set them apart.

>>9342998
you have missed my point. you are in a online space for POC only and you are complaining about an IRL space for POC only. why did you join the group, do you think those same reasons might be why some wanted a POC only meet?

>>9344347
Not even the anon you're referring to. But I see it this way. PoC (in this case black) are making an meet for only them excluding others. Now it's not bad to do that but you have to understand how it will cause a problem. You don't see white lolitas making a meetup for people of white passing do you? No. Why? Because they are inclusive of their community. If they want their friends to have a smaller meet then they make a private meet with their friends usually in a private chat like environment. Not a page dedicate to white only lolitas. It's racist bu definition to do that because it's holding one race better then the other in terms of who can and can't show up to a meet up.

>>9344352
sorry but this was directed to that anon and as a random, unless you are in the black lolita comm, perhaps cannot understand or answer the questions posed to said anon. But thank you for your contribution

>>9344369
What does being in the comm or not determine that it's a justified answer? The comm is for PoC lolitas and they are planning a meet for only PoC lolitas to attend. It's pretty clear that that is what is going on in this thread. Being in it or not. Every one can see they don't want any one of white passing to be at their meet.

>>9344399
desu that's absolutely fine as long as it's fine to have a white only meet as well

>>9344416

But anon that's not ok because it's not poor oppressed black people

>>9344416
You can't have white only any thing anon. Only white people are racist and oppressive to PoC.

>>9344426
>>9344430
[mumbling] p-power p-plus p-prejudice... i-institutional... p-privilege... i-imperialist...

>>9344433

Thanks to the tumblr garbage this site has become, I can't tell if you're baiting or if you actually believe that drivel. Congrats, 5/10.

>>9344433
8/10 because you made me make you an image.

>ITT: gulls too spineless to stop off-topic political discussion at their meets drag the thread into off-topic political discussion

meb

>>9344347
Actually, everyone is allowed in the group, all races lol. So maybe you should actually know what you are talking about before spouting shit. I joined the group because it's nice to talk about things that aren't discussed in places like RC, like black hair styles for lolita and how to deal with certain types of comments. I didn't join so we could literally segregate ourselves.

>>9344268
>I hate people who generalize
>generalizes people
Nice

>>9344274
I don't blame them for anything in my life personally, I just think they're probably the worst.
If it helps I like gen X the best though I'm not one.
I know grouping people by generation is kind of stupid but they do have some shared traits and characteristics.

Can we all at least agree that this shit is super cringey and needs to stop
>LOL SOMEONE MADE ME INTO A MEME ISNT IT SO FUNNY AND QUIRKY

>>9342983
Are you me. I have a good education and have worked my ass off and volunteered/'interned' since I was 12 and make $6 an hour. Or I SHOULD make that; I haven't been paid in over 3 months and work makes me feel 'greedy' for asking for my wages. I have been living off of expired food for my one meal a day and really don't want to have to sell my wardrobe again because I've not been paid AGAIN. People ask what is wrong with poor people prioritising fashion, but when your life is a shitstorm of familial chaos and poverty, a nice dress is fucking well-needed bit of escapism/a self-esteem boost. I mean why work my fingers to the bone (literally) if I can't have anything nice to show for it, if I can't ever treat myself.

>>9345049
where the fuck do you live where it's not okay to ask for your pay? and $6 at that. what the fuck. whatever company you're working at must be dying to not pay you that

>>9345049
WTF
Agreed with where the hell do you live? people can't just not pay you and you can get back wages if they try
the fuck is wrong with you. you're intentionally making yourself into a slave because ???

>>9345049
You do realize that's illegal, right?

>>9345045

My friends made a meme of mee as well. And it was nice for a few laughs. But holy shit i would never spread that shit. She just tries to make herself popular or go viral somehow.

She joined the local "Alternative styles" FB group from my area. Man. She has loads of makeup yet her skills are tragic

>>9345049
Ebony?

>>9345045
the caption doesn't even make sense with the picture

>>9345049
anon pls...where do you even live? have you had no luck job-hunting for something better? i want to help you because that sounds shitty, what the fuck. can't you take them to court for not paying you?

>tfw this girl just joined the local jfash group
>she is 16

>>9345087
It's not technically illegal. I've done plenty of work for as little as 5$ per hours. There's lots of ways to circumvent wage laws in the U.S.

It usually involves the work being considering volunteer only such as an internship or freelance.

>>9345087

>>9345087
It's not technically illegal. I've done plenty of work for as little as 5$ per hour. There's lots of ways to circumvent wage laws in the U.S.

It usually involves the work being considered volunteer only such as an internship or freelance.

>>9345087
It's not technically illegal. I've done plenty of work for as little as 5$ per hour. There's lots of ways to circumvent wage laws in the U.S.

It usually involves the work being considered volunteer only such as an internship or freelance.

(I need sleep, I just corrected that 3 times...)

>>9342983
>Working a shitty shift
>Only thing that keeps me going is thinking of that burando

>>9345500
anon might not even work in the states where there are strict wage laws or she might be in a situation where she can't work legally and is stuck doing under the table work

>>9345045
She looks like shit.

>>9345500
>>9345068

Some countries have far fewer protections for workers than others, and it is not as simple as taking your employer to court. This hits especially hard when coupled with high unemployment.

>>9345891
and even if they do, there's always loopholes. I'm from a country that on paper is pretty employee friendly, but there still are companies that just don't pay minimum wage. As in, they make a contract that states you get minimum wage, but they don't actually pay you or they make a contract for less hours than you actually work. Of course you can sue, but that means you'll be fired and going to court might cost you more money than you'll get out of it.
Also, internships up to a certain time span don't need to be paid with minimum wage and apprentices don't need to be paid minimum wage either. I know people in vocational training who get around as much as a student working part time is allowed to earn tax free here.

>'Lolitaesc'
Thank goodness most comments are telling her these patterns are shit. Some of them are saying they could work 'with some tweaks', though, which is bullshit. Don't tell newbies they can 'tweak' garbage like this when you know full well they will fuck it up and end up with something unwearable.

>>9345407
The commenters came up with way better captions almost instantly.

>>9333965
I'm a daily lolita. I'm also not stupid - going to rallies/protests means hair up, piercings out, phone off, face mostly covered, tattoos hidden by clothing while the rest of me is wearing jeans, tough shoes, and a comfy top layers. I'd rather not be doxxed, ruin my pretty clothes, or be wearing my hair or clothing in ways that can be used to physically hurt me.

Additionally, you never know when a peaceful demonstration could turn violent; every protest is a chance you could be hosed, tear gassed, arrested, beaten, tased, or shot by by rubber bullets. It's best to be prepared.

>>9334044
Supporting black businesses isn't a bad thing. I try to support local small business whenever possible.

>>9334426
In Mana's name we pray.

>>9345619
That dollar wig tho

>>9334929
All of this. Thank you, anon.

>>9335193
Women can both take care of their spawn and take care of themselves. Obviously NEEDS of the zergling come first, but a mother should be able to buy something for herself without feeling bad that she didn't buy little Timmy the newest, greatest toy.

>>9335843
This isn't the oppression olympics, anon.

So where do you guys buy most of your shit from? Peer to peer/self designed? Or a company?

>>9346608
>>9340264

>>9343253
That's not something people are born knowing, you walnut

>>9343683
Yeah, many places with minorities saw stricter voter laws enacted and new unfair voting locations.

>>9343185
>Blacks voted for Trump
>"HE CAN'T BE HITLER!!1111"

Fuck off mate; you already know how dumb you sound

>>9346637
nice strawman. i was refuting the point that
>Like, just because Trans, immigrants, and 3 Uncle Toms voted for him doesn't mean...
Because, as far as a republican candidate goes, he picked up very strong figures of minority votes

>>9346637
also, you're phrasing that as if trump not being literally hitler is some absurd claim

>cat laying out in your brand

no thanx

>>9346668
Doesn't matter if he picked up a strong minority vote. What matters is that those people were fooled into thinking he'd rock the system somehow, or give them a better deal by being a non-politician entering the arena.

Whoops, got fucked.

>>9348837
he literally is rocking the system

>>9348840
Really anon? Literally?

>>9325784
I saw this on a friend of mine's FB. If I was her I wouldn't take that kind of crap desu

>>9348830
pom pom would be so cute if shed take it to get groomed and blowdried. hes slowly turning into a gremlin

>>9349149
2 separate beggars? Don't people feel embarrassed doing this?

>>9345040
what they have is shared environmental, economical, and political situations. the majority may have developed certain feelings, cultural items, or ways of life inspired by the shared circumstances, but the generation does not share "traits and characteristics."

you seem to be spouting about stuff you really don't know about.

>>9345049
are you a minor, anon? if you aren't 16, why do you still have such a low-paying job? you need to build up your self esteem and find a job with advancement opportunities. you're clearly some kind of smart. make sure that you aren't holding yourself back. perhaps you should go to a trade school, or apprentice with some local expert on the side of this current sketchfest of a job.

I sincerely hope there are more opportunities in your area and that it's just low morale/depression keeping you at this shitty one. then, you can treat your condition and fake it 'til you make a living wage.
I'm really rooting for you anon. I'm rooting for you so hard.
I grew up poor, but it could have been slightly offset if my parents weren't so shitty with money. luckily, I was able to work my ass off in grade school, go to college on scholarships, and now live in an area that has pretty good job prospects.
fight for a better life, in any way that you can

>>9348830
She laid everything out on the floor too and be honest, do you think she cleaned it first? She has several pets running around and can't even be bothered to do her makeup halfway decently so unless they have a live-in cleanerI bet that floor is pretty nasty to begin with. People who bought from her mentioned makeup and sunscreen stains on the clothes so it's not like the cat is doing much additional damage, her stuff is fucked anyway.

>>9345619
that cold sore
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>>9342819
no one can read in this thread. the meet is "dedicated" to PoC...it also happens to be black history month. does it say only poc can attend? no.

even if it was a meet for only poc, think of it as a small support group. if you are not a member of that group you probably could go, you just may not have the personal experience to empathize with the discussion topics.

people are always getting so butthurt and thinking these things are more insidious than they ever are. all the people crying racism and segregation sound like they were spoiled rotten and never told no in their lives. I don't assume everything is for me, or that I belong in every space. that would be ridiculous and entitled as fuck.

I'd assume it's nice to be around people, once in a blue moon, that you don't have to explain your issues to before you can talk about them.

I always love how lolitas proudly defend no-men-allowed rules for **entire comms**, but shit on small, private meets for certain kinds of people to get together and relax.

>>9349210
Why would you "dedicate" an entire meetup to a certain race of people, though? If you want to privately hang out with other black lolitas that's fine, but why have a meetup for the entire group and then "dedicate" it to a certain racial subset of that group? It would actually be less weird to have a private meetup for BHM and only invite black/PoC lolitas (LoC?) you're friendly with.

>>9349258
this

>Kate
>Racist-chan
>#friends
kek

>>9349258
But anon, if it's a private meetup how will everyone know how Progressive they are?

>>9353360
Jenna latches on to any e-famous girl she possibly can, but they all just tolerate her. Kate included.