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My com has some gender queer, gay, feminist and all kind of lolitas. While most are nice and dress good, some are clearly there just to talk and advance their point of view on other political and gender issues. I realy dont mind what a person is or think - but why must they constantly shift the conversation to this? Its a Lolita Community!
What do you think? Has this ever happened in your comm?

>> No.9319201

>>9319198
this coord looks lika fahr tryhard

>> No.9319202

I dont get it. If you dont mind their sexual orientation, whats bothering you?

>> No.9319204

Just tell them to take non lolita discussions to another board...

>> No.9319205
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This guy is in my local community, and I always see him at other events like street festivals and stuff. He talks casually but constantly says stuff like "I've lived as a guys guy for so long it's like xyz" "the other guys at my office were like"

He just makes me really uncomfortable. Even if he doesn't actually do anything

>> No.9319206

>>9319198
One meet I met two new lolitas who came for the first time I picked up pretty quick that one of them identified as male though it was never openly talked about. They both looked very nice for their first coords so I was really impressed. Me and one of the newbs started to get to know each other and it was mentioned that her friend at the meet was having a bit of an identity 'shift' an was transitioning(? I think tumblr transitioning, like put on a beanie wear plaid), so I link some ouji and offer to help them with closet child etc. Fast forward 6 months to a year and I have become really good friends with the girl, but it has become super hard to get her to come to meets because her gender fluid friend guilt trips her if she comes to one without him, but when she offers to go with him and reminds him he is invited he moans about his identity crisis and how he doesn't know how he feels or what feels right to wear etc. etc.

Meanwhile we also have a "cut my hair short" feminist in the group, who likes to inject a "sigh, well you know, mysoggynees" anytime she can, and gets pissed off when we choose to sit around and chat with each other instead of playing cards against humanity-lolita ed. It's been making it hard for me and others to plan meets when we know we have to permaset our faces into agreeable smiles for a couple of hours.

>> No.9319208

>>9319206
And yeah I know we don't have to go to meets and endure the pseudo-intellectual diatribe being flung passive aggressively back and forth, but me and my friends are the older members and we don't want the comm to die.
Also we make fancy cocktails on weekends.

>> No.9319216

>>9319198
>>9319202
why are you samefagging

anyway, if they get too political just tell them to simmer the hell down and discuss it privately because not everybody wants to be subjected to their preaching. it'll probably hurt their feelings, but so what

if it's that much of a problem then just host private meets with people who aren't total cunts

>> No.9319219

>>9319201
I think is it fahr? The copyright says barcroft and iirc they did a short docu on her?

>> No.9319231

>>9319205
I would have no problem with this person participating in the comm if they weren't so fucking rude and malicious. Have you ever seen how they act towards men? And I don't mean just anyone, but nice, well-meaning, polite friends-of-the-comm lolita boyfriends? It's sickening. They're such an elitist fuck and they make everyone uncomfortable.

I remember at a convention this person went to one of the comm member's boyfriends and tried cutting them down by asking really prying, unwarranted questions about their weight in a way that made it seem like they were asking, "Don't you hate yourself for being fat? I know I would."

Fuck this dude. He's a piece of trash who treats everyone like garbage for no apparent reason.

>> No.9319249

>>9319231
It's honestly a relief to know I'm not the only one that's uncomfortable around him. It's like... if you're always talking about being a guy and asserting yourself this way why are you even here?

AGP vibes.

>> No.9319266

>>9319249
Yeah, no; you're definitely not alone. He makes seriously everyone uncomfortable and the rude, uncalled for comments he blurts out makes it even worse.

>> No.9319305

All the transgenders I have met in my comm all made lolita fashion into a thing that wasn't about fashion. They all left quite quickly because they did not know how to behave, were drama queens, or just did not dare to show up because of all the other trans-people that were there before them and they were afraid. I started out having respect for these people because they have it hard, but that is not a reason to just be stupid. It has nothing to do with lolita fashion, but I guess most of them just use it as a way to have fun as their 'other self' or something. Be your genuine normal cool self, and everything will be alright.

>> No.9319342

I don't give a fuck what someone's sexual preference or gender identity is and would happily welcome anyone, but there does seem to be a trend of people who use their otherness for attention and it gets old real fast.

There are two transmen in my comm who have been around for a very long time and everyone gets along with them because they're really chill. Sometimes a transwoman (or someone claiming to be anyhow) joins the comm and for some reason they always end up causing drama. We've had several cases of 'transwomen' who I'm 99.9% sure were actually sissy fetishists, and a little while ago there was a girl who I think was legit trans, but she was really hostile and aggressive to a lot of comm members and ended up being booted out as well.

>>9319205
>>9319231
Not in your comm but he sounds like the most obnoxious kind of "one of the boys"/"not like the other girls" stereotype except with the sexes reversed. It would be funny if I didn't empathise with how annoying he must be.

>> No.9319352

>>9319198
It never happens in my comm.. I know there are genderqueer lolita's in my comm because I have some of them as friends on fb but they've never talked about it on the comm page. Don't think this needed its own thread.

>> No.9319358

>>9319352
You have no idea how lucky you are.

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>>9319198

>> No.9319368

>>9319358
People normally like to shit on the Dutch comm so thanks

>> No.9319374

>This entire fucking thread
Feminists and SJWs did this.

This wasn't an issue just five years ago.

Face reality. A deranged academic and political cult and forced their way into many subcultures, communities, and the political landscape of the country in general, and have sown discord and misery.

Anyone denying this plain-as-day fact is an indoctrinated fool with blinders on, a true believer that can't accept they've been living a lie.

>inb4 HURR DURR gamergate misogynist, rapist, alt-right, pepe, gb2pol, etc

>> No.9319382

>>9319374
I don't know anon, I find the genderspecials annoying too but I know plenty of people who prefer "they" pronouns and they're probably the nicest, sweetest people I've known. It's less about the movement itself and more about young people in general not having enough life experience to understand that their "gender problems" are basic things everyone experiences as they stumble into adulthood.

Your hysterical hyperbole makes it sound kind of like you don't have many real problems in your life so you've latched onto this.

>> No.9319392

>>9319382
I am a "gender special" (transitioned before it became an out of control meme)

I'm extremely bitter and this whole sad state of affairs pushed me back into the closet.

Also, one of my best friends got shamed out for "black face" (cosplaying with her natural mixed girl skintone that matched the character, Korra) and I'm bitter about that too.

Feminism does nothing for us. As of now, especially now in the Unites States, it is dogshit.

>> No.9319424

>>9319392
Nothing what you just said has anything to do with feminism. Just kids being overbearing and retarded. Be a fucking adult and stand up to them, if you don't make an example of yourself you're part of the problem.

>> No.9319427

>>9319424
>if you don't make an example of yourself you're part of the problem.
Ah victim blaming.

>> No.9319432

>>9319427
Yes, telling you to stand up for yourself against people is totally victim blaming.

This is why I can't take SJWs or anti-SJWs seriously, both sides are stupid chickenshits who hide behind rhetoric and mudslinging. You're both cut from the same cloth and automatically assume anyone who disagrees with you is out to get you.

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>>9319432
>You're both cut from the same cloth and automatically assume anyone who disagrees with you is out to get you.
<-- See pic

>> No.9319437

>>9319434
Hmm, except I called them both stupid chickenshits and didn't present it as being an argument against anti-SJWs specifically, but nice try.

Seriously, "boohoo feminism" is it from you? Guess what, feminism is an old movement with millions of (wildly different) people who identify as feminist and who do different things with ideals that are often at odds with one another. Arguing against feminism is the same as someone saying "fucking Republicans" or "fucking liberals." It's pointless.

Use your big xir words, anon. When you see something upsetting discuss it specifically and talk about why it's wrong. If you're just gonna sit around whining about a vague ideology that doesn't even have a consistent definition from person to person you might as well go post on /b/ instead because it has the same impact.

>> No.9319441

>>9319437
>Guess what, feminism is an old movement with millions of (wildly different) people who
Except NO ONE was referring to any of that so fuck off with your bait-and-switch. We are talking about the dumb white bitch buzzfeed feminism of 201x that is completely and utterly unavoidable because it's been using every dirty cult trick in the book to strongarm its way into everything we hold dear. You might as well be standing up for scientology at this point.

>> No.9319444

>>9319434
>>9319441

lmao, this is such a perfect example of what anon meant that it would be a 10/10 if it was ironic shitposting.

>> No.9319447

>>9319441
I'm not standing up for anything anon, I'm pointing out that you just said "feminism" and didn't actually. You know. Discuss anything relevant to the OP. You just rolled up to vaguely bitch about it and then cried about victim blaming when told to stand up for yourself.

>> No.9319449

>>9319447
Feminism and SJW bullshit is the direct cause of everything that's been complained about in this thread up until I pointed out the elephant in the room.

Predictably enough clowns like you showed up to be dismissive.

>> No.9319452

>>9319449
>some anons have a civil discussion about some annoying people in their comms
>annoying people sound to be on the same level as furries or shitty scene kids from the past
>"REEEEE SJWS AND FEMINISTS ARE THE SOURCE OF ALL THIS EVIL CULTISH BEHAVIOR WAKE UP SHEEPLE"

Yeah ok.

>> No.9319460

>>9319205
This dude shows up to the big convention in my state. I met him years ago and he's always weirded me the fuck out.

>> No.9319470

>>9319368
Yeah desu, that's one of the only things the Dutch comm has going for it.

>> No.9319506

>>9319427
>complaining about SJWs and then throwing out a term like "victim blaming"

lmao you're all insufferable