/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

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I also see it being called gear lolita, which is it?

>>9307465
it's shit

>>9307465
Gear is a derogatory term in the steampunk scene, referring to drop kicks who just throw gears on shit and call it steampunk.

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I love h.naoto but they are the worst at coording. Their stuff always looks better worn by other people.

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>>9307484

don't try to make it happen. It won't.

>>9307489
It's been around for a few years

>>9307488

I don't know why so many people are in denial about it. This is just as much a thing now as guro/country/punk lolita etc was a thing years ago

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>>9307478
So that's basically what steam lolita is: a (probably brown) lolita coord with some gears. Then they call it gear lolita themselves instead of waiting for true steampunks to use the term against them. The Western steampunk community is so annoying and embarrassing tough, I wouldn't want to be associated with them.

>>9307498
Shoulder pads were a thing, but that doesn't mean that they weren't shit.

I prefer not to.

>>9307498
It's trash, just like ero and the majority of guro is trash.

>>9307514
That doesn't mean it doesn't exist

I notice that the Japanese take on steam punk is much more fiction / fantasy based then historical in nature. I think at this point with the amount of steam punk in Japan, it's only natural for the two to merge. My big issue is I hope people don't follow the meme and 'just put some gears on it and call it steam punk'.

>>9307515
Sure it exists, but it's trash. Why waste time discussing it?

>>9307521
>I hope people don't follow the meme and 'just put some gears on it and call it steam punk'.
I think you don't have to go full steampunk to call a coord steam lolita tough, just like punk lolita usually isn't really punk

fin go to bed

>>9307496
+ There have been steampunk lolita meetups in Tokyo for ages (2011 was the first one if I remember correctly) too organised by http://steampunk-japan.com/

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I haven't seen this much h. Naoto in a thread since 2016

>>9307409
To be honest I hate the steampunk style in general. I feel it's some kind of degeneracy of the victorian elegance. But the modesty of steam lolita coords is kind of redeeming.

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I'm finally finished

>>9307658

This thread was inspiring, thanks op and to all the non-contrarians.

When I first got into lolita, my boyfriend saw steam punk in it because I was looking at military coords and he wanted me to do one. I had seen how much cgl hated it though so I acted like I wasn't interested.
I feel like there's definitely a distinct group of people here who will call certain substyles ita just because they don't like it personally or they've only seen it coorded poorly.

Substyles can't be automatic ita.

Steampunk seems to be gaining steam (pun intended) in Japan. It usually looks absolutely horrid in the west. There is hope it could look decent but I think the style should just stay strictly in steam punk, and shed the word "lolita". You can still wear it but don't call it Steampunk Lolita. Attempts at making new X lolita usually often end up ita.

>>9307712
But several lolita brands have released steampunk inspired prints and accessories, and use the steam lolita label.

>>9307712
>implying this is new
>implying it isn't a thing after both GLB and Kera had whole articles delicated to スチームパンクなロリータ
You are 10 years too late for a change to still be possible.

>>9307698
>I had seen how much cgl hated it though so I acted like I wasn't interested
You should always take cgl with a grain of salt.

>>9307738
I don't listen to most stuff said here.

http://charismatalk.jp/I0000897
Some japanese Steampunk Lolita online article.

>>9307748
That pic was already posted but thanks. I really like the aesthetic of steampunk, but I don't consider it a fashion. I heard in the Western steampunk community people even make up personality's and names for their steampunk character, it's like cosplay/role-playing to them? So I wouldn't wear steam lolita for a normal day, but to an event. Does anyone remember some people used to call it steamlita?

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>I heard in the Western steampunk community people even make up personality's and names for their steampunk character, it's like cosplay/role-playing to them?
And that's what jfashion is to everyone in Japan - roleplay.
https://tokyogirlsupdate.com/17-year-old-disease-201701113444.html

>>9307760
It's a different culture like all countries have a different culture and the way to treat fashion is part of that. But it isn't role play. Besides, the most popular jfashions in the West seem to be larme and lolita now, neither of which was born in akiba, nor is akiba a popular place for the people who wear larme or lolita.

>>9307767
Did you even read the article or? 17歳病 exists all over Japan, the article is only about how big it has become in Akiba that it it is something normal.

>>9307769
I did read the article but I fail to see its relevance

>>9307738
>grain of /salt/
>iseewhatudidthere.jpeg
but seriously, people here just cling to the latest a anti-opinion on here. if one person hates it, it'll be a meme in a week. just have good taste, don't wear cheap shit, make sure your clothes fit properly and keep the general aesthetic/rules of lolita in mind. ffs people get their panties in such a twist here.

>>9307748
This is so cute. I'll gladly wear steam punk lolita like this.

>>9307782
>just have good taste
This is just subjective though. There's no winning here.

>>9307786
Yes, but I meant in more of a common sense way. Like "don't wear a trashbag taped to a corset and call it steampunk lolita," rather than "wear my exact style and preferences at all times or you're ita."

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but the latter is the majority of shit cgl comments I see? which is why I stopped listening to anything said here after I learned the basics because this place is only good for the basics and anything beyond that is just too much for your average gull to grasp.

>>9307698
I adore steampunk lolita, never really wear it outside of photoshoots though.

>>9307712
I love how the Japanese tend to do steampunk in general, there's something more delicate to it generally.

>>9307770
See the greentext, according to you pretty much all of the fashions that can be found in Harajuku aren't fashion anymore because everyone and their mom is making a fictive self for their alt fashion persona.

>>9308529
Are you sure you're replying to the right person or understand what we're talking about? All I said is that I heard the Western steampunk community role plays.

>>9308529
No, according to me (and feel free to correct me) the Western steampunk community doesn't treat steampunk as a fashion/daily wear, so I don't either

>>9307659
I really like this one for some reason.

>>9307617
Really? I find the lolita silhouette looks less modest the more grounded in the Victorian era it becomes, because knee length or even ankle length dresses were considered scandalous at the time unless you were a child, and the way steam punk is styled doesn't usually make it look young.

>>9308418
...that's literally what I said in the first comment you replied to.

>>9307760
That article has nothing to do with jfash? Its talking about maid cafés, voice actresses and moe. Other than the pretentious interpretation it's no different to the way western women often answer "21" when they don't want to give their real age, including people in their forties or older claiming to be eternally 21. Its so much of a social phenomenon that they named a clothing chain after it.

>>9308536
>implying any Harajuku fashion is worn as daily wear and not only on weekends
Are you new?
>>9308577
It was in relation to >>9307756 's claims that nothing is fashion when people make up a person which everyone in Japan, that is into alt fashion like Lolita, Fairy Kei, etc, does.

>>9308577
>pretentious interpretation
Which it isn't, that's the actual definition of this sickness and you will find plenty of articles regarding it while searching in japanese, it's expanded Chuuni and not rare.

>>9308709
>claims that nothing is fashion when people make up a person
Nobody said that

>>9308715
Oh you.
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>>9308715
>steampunk isn't a fashion
>they make up personality's and names in steampunk
>it's cosplay/roleplaying and not fashion

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>>9308721
So seeing as you read my comment thoroughly, you know I was talking about steampunk in the West specifically. I don't care if Japanese poeple roleplay when they wear alt fashion, all I was saying is I heard the steampunk community in the West doesn't see it as a fashion.

Her boobs look really uncomfortable

Sometimes I'm not sure if a coord is acceptable as steam lolita because it looks too low quality for lolita

Bonus steam usagi

>>9307415
>slap a police hat on
>outfit not lolita

Bump

I understand the appeal of the concept - Victorian era, jules verne, early mechanics and machines - but when translated into a fashion, especially lolita, it just makes people look like a frilly homeless person.

I wouldn't wear it personally because it's not my thing, but I'm kind of digging it all the same. Also I now have an urge to listen to Rasputina.