/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

so, prompted by the 'first artist alley' questions, what is the worst you've done at an alley or seen someone else do?

I remember distinctly the social media breakdown of a girl I was semi-acquainted with at her first alley, where she had spent $600 on printing gallery-quality prints and had not sold a single one.
It was one of the unfortunate cases where she had never gotten genuine feedback/critique on her work, just her family and friends going OMG its so good!

The worst I ever did was sitting between a creepy loli borderline-hentai artist and a very aggressive salesperson perler seller. The combination of the two was just causing people to quickly walk past our section as whole.

>>9222611

For a new jersey sellers permit.

This thread has the info

https://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=5524685&page=4

Doing a test run of a new bath bomb idea I had. Trying to figure out the proper proportions of pigment vs polysorbate to avoid causing a bath ring/staining.

After this I want to do some heart shaped bath bombs based on the different undertale hearts. Or I might just do sailor moon hearts, not sure yet.

>>9223138
My first AA i got a table with a friend on a whim and i had like two mediocre pokemon prints and my friend did chibi commissions. We were sat next to Ramy and it was the height of mudkip season. I didnt make any money, i didnt expect to, but it was a learning experience

I think if I didn't sell anything my first con, I would've given up. It's always a gamble but that has to be truly upsetting if it's a case like >>9223138

I think it really hurts to go in with unrealistic expectations. You can't go in thinking that everything is going to go well and you'll sell all your stock.

>>9223138
My first con my table was a complete mess. I'd helped on friends' tables before so I thought I knew the ropes of it, but I hadn't put any consideration into table setup. I knew I needed pipes to display prints on but didn't give any thought to how the table would actually look until I got to the con...I did sell some of my non-print items (mostly commissions) but did not make a single print sale, which I've attributed to my terrible, terrible display (I had prints of all different sizes, taped up as straight as I could get them, but I somehow didn't get the hang of putting things up in rows/columns, so it was just.. a very ugly mishmash)

so is there a working goolge doc with taobao/alibaba info? thanks!

I think toshikigirl is putting the nail in the coffin for HIP JAPANESE EDGY clothes

>>9223943

I don't mind this style but when it's nothing new and is just omocat with slightly different designs, then it's annoying.

How do you guys feel about people who straight up copy other artists' art styles and make money off of it? Maybe its not that much of a big deal, but personally I find it kinda unsettling...

>>9223969
That person is definitely knocking off Kaiami but the love live one id argue is just tumblr style

>>9223969
I don't think that's copying as much as generic tumblr art turning into a melted pot of sameface and similar ideas. The ones on the upper right remind me more of san-x art.

>>9223969
The illustration and comics world has people copying styles all the time before the internet was even a thing. As an artist or designer you have to accept that everything has already been done, and all you can do is try to make it your own. As long as tracing isn't involved we shouldn't give a shit.

That being said that bottom one needs ot die in a fire.

>>9223969
The upper-right ones are so off-model. The eye placement is really weird on most of the characters, you can tell the artist has no idea what they're doing.

That being said, it's just art style. It's really easy to copy, so claiming something as your own copyright is kinda silly.
Disney can't even copyright its art style.

>>9223138
I met someone at a con just like that, except even after going to a few cons and not doing well, she still hasn't realized that her artwork is trash.

My very first artist alley was when I was, I think, 15 or 16, and I shared the table with a friend one year older than me. Well, while it was her turn to watch over the table, she had let some people behind the table and they stole almost $100, which was all of our profits. Didn't find out until after the con, and my friend had no clue who the people she left behind the table were.

>>9223969
Are any of those suppose to look like the other or something? I'm not even seeing it.

It is a bunch of lines and colors, I doubt it would be that hard to find at least a few people with a similar art style as anyone else.

Idk, I'm not really seeing anything here. Unless someone is tracing the poses and you can prove they are purposely copying.. then.. meh.

Has anyone done preorders before? I'm planning to open one for charms, and if anyone has tips for what makes a successful preorder, then I would be glad to hear it!

>>9223138
My first booth was free from the convention as a favor to my art teacher. I was in high school and selling my art along with other students' art.
The booth they gave us was in the autograph section.

>>9224027
I've done an art fair sort of thing like that in high school.
Only one of us sold anything and it was a pity sale at the end of the day.

>>9223969
...Not copying. A lot of people have been doing that uber cutesy style lately and if you're gonna call that copying then you'll have a lot of people to confront. Those last charms are an eyesore to me and I can't stand when I see them but to each their own.

>>9223969
they all look like basic bitch styles

They don't really belong to any one person.

Asked this in the last thread but didnt get an answer.
I'm new to doing Artist Alley. I did my first one at NYCC recently which went better than I expected.
So recently I was asked if I'd like to apply for a table at a convention in New Jersey. Only problem it, it says under their rules and regulations for exhibitors that I need a NJ Sellers Permit. Specifically:

>"Exhibitors are responsible for collection and payment of New Jersey State
taxes and must obtain any required Sellers Permit"

Now I didn't need one for NYCC but this convention is saying I do. Thing is, I'm from New York. So what exactly kind of sellers permit do I need to sell at this convention and where would I apply for one?

>>9224135
>>9223141

>>9224139
Whoops I somehow missed that, sorry. Thank you!!

>>9224135
How the fuck did you get into NYCC

>>9224148
I wondered that myself. I applied for years and somehow was accepted this year. Very interesting experience I should say.

>>9224139
> need to register as a business

Da fuck. Can't you just use your name?

>>9224162
Do you have your own comic or a large fanbase?

>>9223943
I don't think these are that bad; the style is different enough that it doesn't really look like Omocat. I feel like every single person who makes printed t-shirts somehow gets called an Omocat rip-off, even when they don't look anything alike.

>>9224175
it's not like toshikigirl sprung into existence same time as omocat, lol. The brand is basically omocat Lite.

>>9224175
You're right, but her designs aren't anything new so it's like a shitty knock off brand

btw did you guys see omocats 'new' line? i hoe shes compensating her friends for that

>>9224235
She publicly said that it was a collab, so I'm sure the other artists are getting a cut?

>>9224235
... are you unfamilliar with collaborations in clothing lines? of course they're being paid. It's their designs under the omocat label.

>>9223943
all the artist's ideas are ripped off from other people anyway, even her style. people have already called her out on her copying + she's close friends with the shotashit/lolibitch artist, who we already know gets a lot of flak in the community.

>>9224258
>of course they're being paid.
But how much are they getting? Omo has been known to undercut her customers, why not her friends?

>>9224225
>every brand that makes weeb tshirts any time after Omocat did is copying her!!!!!!
Anon please, the idea of putting artwork did not start with Omocat and should not end with her either.

>>9224288
It's a pretty far stretch to try and apply that logic; are you also making the assumption that all the artists that participated in the collab are too stupid to value their work? It's pretty clear you don't like Omocat, but jumping to conclusions like that is foolish.

>>9224278
Who's style/ideas is she copying?

>>9224292
Not even that anon you're talking to but people have made side by side comparisons of toshikigirls designs w/ other weeb shirt designs and it's been proven before that she borderline steals/heavily references other people's designs w/o permission.

>>9224278
My favorite part was when she tried to claim that she was being feminist by reclaiming the word "bitch" by applying it to a loli or something ridiculous like that.

>>9224288
Some of the collaborators (e.g. Sachin Teng) are already established as illustrators though... they don't need the exposure of collaborating with Omocat, so I doubt they'd even bother if she was going to rip them off because they would easily have more worthwhile things to work on.

>>9224299
That may be true, but the comment was in reference to Omocat, and as far as I can see there are little to no similarities between the two brands' artwork.

>>9224297
We've discussed this before: >>/cgl/thread/8879556#p8890536

>>9224302
Milkbbi's style is definitely not unique or similar enough to call it copying... I can see maybe the Gundam shirts being close enough for that, but as far as I can tell from her instagram, Toshikigirl is discontinuing those, anyways.

>>9224297
>>9224278
>>9224225
toshikigirl is buddy-buddy with a lot of artists just so she can steal their ideas and claim that it's okay because she's "close" with them and they're "cool" with it. so just saying, if you have catchy concepts in your art and she ends up liking it, she's going to try to make bank on it if you don't do it first.

>>9224296
Agreed, I don't like Omocat at all but I don't doubt she's compensating the artists enough.

>>9223138
I'm gonna be doing my first artist alley in a couple of weeks and I'm so afraid of this happening to me,I don't think my arts BAD but I haven't had alot of critique either , I kind of want to post here for opinions

>>9224545
Go for it, anon.

>>9224545
Post it!

So, I've been waitlisted for the first time and I don't really know what it means? Did I just wait too long to submit my application?

The email says that "due to my placement in the queue, it is unlikely that I will receive an acceptance email".

This is a con that I went to last year to check out and it's small enough that I wouldn't mind going just to get some more experience and it's close enough that I wouldn't waste a lot of money. I wasn't too invested in going (I did apply last minute) so I'm guessing that's really what happened.

Is there ever a time where the quality of work is what gets you waitlisted? I can't really imagine that being an option. It seems like that would just get you flat out rejected. At least I can say that, so far, I've had a good track record. When I first started this year, I was so sure that I'd never get accepted into anything.

>>9224589
if it's first come first serve and you did it last minute then what do you expect

>>9224622
Clearly you read nothing that I said because I just said that I did it last minute because I didn't care about getting in or not.

I was asking if that's the ONLY reason people get waitlisted.

>>9224626
No because most of these are first come first serve. Some cons have a jury system where you can be wailisted on based on your portfolio but even that is a mixed bag with a good amount of shitty artist getting tables (see: anons complaining in almost every thread).

>>9224626
>So, I've been waitlisted for the first time and I don't really know what it means? Did I just wait too long to submit my application?
>The email says that "due to my placement in the queue, it is unlikely that I will receive an acceptance email".

I mean maybe you should check your own reading comprehension bc desu senpai you typed your own answer

>>9224589
If it is first some first serve, then yea, waiting last minute is probably the reason. If there is any jury involved, then it could be because your work is garbage, but not such garbage that they wouldn't even consider you, or, more likely, there are already several others who applied that sell very similar things that you do.

Some cons are first come first serve, others don't care when you apply.

For doing commision at a con, should I take all of my copics to do fully colored commisions?or is that too much of a hassle

>tfw you want to tap that sweet furry money
>make plushies
>look at what is being made
>all dogs

I fucking hate dogs.

>>9223138
>>9223484
>>9223988
>>9224135
>>9224225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY

>>9225491
Depends how comfortable and fast you are with them. If you think you can keep track of them I'd say it's worth it or you only bring a handful of colors and offer monotone pictures. People love getting colored commissions at cons.

>>9225494
make sergal plushies, they are popular in the furry community right now. Probably super hard to make though, idk.

Otters are popular too, and super easy to make a plush of.

>>9225603
>sergal
>not a real animal
>looks like a dog

>>9225494
>hate dogs
You don't deserve that sweet money.

>>9225494
>wants to make furry money but can't get over hatred of dogs
You fell into that hole yourself, anon. Pick one or the other.

>>9225618
Yeah, say that to people who say they hate cats.
It's not a hate-hate, it's more of a I-don't-want-them near-me-at-all-discomfort.

>>9225622
Nah, I'm just teasing you. But what >>9225619 said, basically. If you want that money, just gotta put aside your discomforts.

>>9225625
>>9225619

Yeah, I know. I guess the wolf/dog aesthetic is just so alien to me.

>>9224589
If it's Ichibancon that you got waitlist for just know I've been wait listed the second year in a row by them. I think that it's a small con but so many people apply becouse it's at a good time (right after Christmas, schools out) so they just want to keep it small. Don't be discouraged just apply again next year.

>>9225615
>>looks like a dog
umm, ok.

literally make a plush of any animal, there will always be at least one person who has a sona or is kin or that animal. Honestly, the more obscure it is, they more they are willing to pay.

are we allowed to post handmade jewlery on here for price estimate? This is my first time making any of this stuff and I like how it all turned out but I'm really not sure how to price it. The prices I've decided on I've been told are pretty low but since I'm new to it and it's not pro quality I assumed a low price would be necessary. I have tons of pics of my stuff but wasn't sure if I should post it here or not?

>>9225659
compile your best into one pic

>>9225635
It was and thanks! I just applied on a whim because I figured I'd have some time once the semester was over.

I have a list of spring/summer cons I'm applying to next year. Fall/winter just gets really hectic for me.

okay so here is a pic of some of my stuff. and my prices:

Flower crowns for 10$ each
perler bows for 2$ each
creepy dolls are 5$ each
perler hairclips for $1-3 each depending on size
$5 for each small pokemon pixel perler and $10 for large
Charm necklaces 10$
charm earrings for 3$
charm bracelets for 5$

I think that covers everything. So what do you guys think? My friends say it's too low but i dunno, I seems reasonable considering how much the materials cost and it only took me 2 weeks to make my entire stock (30 pieces of jewlery, 30 dolls, 5 flower crowns, 30 perler creations, 20 perler bows)

Sorry if the pic is too big, I made it as big as a piece of paper.

>>9225837
btw I'm super new to this ... so I know these aren't top quality. If you guys have any suggestions please let me know. I made what I knew would be easy to sell.

I'm going to be taking better pictures later because the ones i took this morning don't show the minor details on a lot of them.

>>9225837
I think you're definitly underpricing your earrings and bracelets. I'd price the earrings at least $5. The bracelets should bea few dollars more too.

I'm actually curious about pricing too. I was selling stuff like this at a fair at the begging of the month. Sales were slow for everybody but I still had some sales. The pins were my most popular things at $3 a piece. I was selling the necklaces at $10 a piece and earrings at $5. I also had skull cellphone straps at $2 each. Do my prices sound okay, or should I tweak the prices a bit?

>>9225837
1. Too low for charm stuf if you're making each charm by hand, waste of your time to sell so low
2. don't fucking just steal pokemon sprites and sell them lmao, fuck off

>>9225837
I hope these aren't the pictures in your shop (if you have one). Next time you take pictures iron and lint roll your fabric, and check that your light source isn't totally blinding out all the details so you can't see anything. Diffused light is your best bet - you can rubber band a white pillow case or shirt over a desk lamp so the light isn't as harsh.

I'm not a crafter so I don't have much helpful information on pricing, sorry. Your necklaces and bracelets do seem low, since that puts each individual charm at under a dollar each. That's too low for something you're hand crafting from clay or resin. Does that even cover material costs?

Again, I don't know a heck of a lot about crafting, jewelry, or charm making, but I think these would be loads cuter with some decorative beads. They look a little barren now.

>>9225853
I wouldn't consider recreating digital pixel work into perlers stealing. I have been to many a convention and literally any vendor who sells perler stuff sells pokemon sprites. I mean if you want to get technical people wouldn't be allowed to sell anything with pokemon on them because they are copyrighted. But people do.

And besides, I recolored and reshaped most all my pixel art before creating the perler. you can even tell in the pic.

What would you recommend instead if I were to try and sell pokemon related perler stuff?

>>9225857
I'm retaking pics tonight so hopeful that will help, thank you. I'm going to try warm lighting on a pastel sheet that I just ironed and lint rolled to hell and back.
I made all my charms with clay I made at home myself, so the materials weren't expensive at all. if anything the chains were the most expensive aspect. And I would love to add some extra beads and tiny ribbons and stars but I'm super out of money, that why I'm trying to get rid of all of my crafting material so I can make it into this stuff and sell it for some spendable money on better materials. I already have people that have called dibs on all my flower crowns and with all of them sold I'll have $50 making for a profit of $40.

>>9225853
this was the first google image search that came up for selling pixel art at conventions. People sell unaltered video game sprites all the time. Every single convention has them. And 90% the creator doesn't alter the pixel art at all.

>>9225881
>>9225876
The pixel bead art is one of those areas. Everybody does it, but usually frowned upon if you sell straight ripped sprites. If you design them yourself or alter it enough, you should be fine since it's not just sprite rips.

>>9225491
Even though it's my most expensive commission option by far (I also offer sketches and monotone inks), I almost exclusively get asked for full colour commissions at cons. I take all of my Copics (I own ~100) in one of ArtsBovine's XL cosmetic bags that I had originally ordered as a test sample of that size.

>>9225884
I made some huge pokemon perler stuff for my own house and after that ran out of black ... so I had to get creative with the colors. So all the sprites I did I put into photoshop and messed around with the colors and shadow placement until it looked good to me and then did the perler. Hopefully that will be okay? Granted I'm not selling these as a convention or on an official store, but still.

>>9225895
I think if it's stuff for yourself. Most people don't care. If you're taking somebody else's sprites. It's more iffy. Some people are fine for personal use, others not so much.

>>9225876
>>9225881
"Look at all these fuck ups, i think i have a right to be a fuck up too"

Anons, my friend invited me to share a table with her in a local handicraft fair but I really don't know what to expect.

Any anons with any experiences? What kind of product usually sells? I only sold postcards and acrylic charms before but I also plan to make some clay charms.

>>9225961
handicraft fairs/markets tend to be much, much slower (sales wise) than cons of any kind. I wouldn't stress too much. Make a bunch of one of a kind stuff rather than duplicating the same design.

>>9225911
Thank you for the insightful input. I've learned a lot from this reply. It was so insightful in fact, that I now know exactly how to fix the problem and can continue selling Pokemon items without using the pixel work from the games. Thank you so much anon. You're a big help.

Anyways

>>9225857
You were completely right. I just got done adding beads to a few of the charm jewelry and it looks more finished. I actually like it so much I plan on putting beads on all of the ones that have enough space in between them. I'm using some cheap plastic beads but they accent the charms well.

>>9225979
You are trying to sound clever but you sound a stupid as someone saying "how am i supposed to draw art with a pencil without copying line for line existing art"

Consider the answer to that and then consider it's the same answer to your question.

>>9225895
>>9225884
>>9225876
Don't some conventions reject artists with perler bead stuff?
I know that's becoming more common now.

But if you're not doing AA, then whatever, but just saying.

>>9226008
I can't imagine a con flat out rejecting an art/craft booth with some perler bead stuff. I could see them saying they can't sell the perler bead items, but not rejecting them entirely. Though most all booths I see with perler stuff are JUST perler stuff with some shite pillows.

>>9226017
Fanime already bans perler that isn't original, meaning no sprite rips/copying. Perlers alone aren't banned, just the act of copying / stealing someone else's work to make it.

>>9223148
Maybe paint the outside black and leave the rest white? It wouldn't look different and people wouldn't be put off by the thought of bathing in it because, ngl, the water looks really nasty as is.
Maybe put confetti in or something?

>>9225961
Who's likely to go? If you're going to get a lot of mums in their 40s, making detailed cute shit won't be a good use of your time, because they go for stuff with ugly fonts and cheesy sayings. If it's grannies, focus on making stuff they can put around the house. Something like a glitter-accented gingerbread cottage with 'This house....... Is' a Home!!!!' stamped on the reverse would sell super fast in my area, because I live in a place where good taste goes to die.

Christmas cards, acrylic/clay tree decorations, and anything gimmicky should do well. If you can, offer to personalise items for a small fee. Focus on your display, and have 3-for-2 offers and stuff.

I hope you do well, anon.

Peeps who have ordered from vograce, i was wondering what you paid in total and how many charms you got?

Weighing my options. Will be super appreciated

>>9226349
talking to chinese people really isn't that scary anon. they will give you a quote specific to your needs.

>>9226349
I ordered about 50 and the cost was 50$ including shipping. If you're not in China I imagine shipping will account for a large amount of the final price. I posted a longer, more in depth review on Tumblr and you can find it by looking up the Vograce tag if you'd like

>>9225961
I'm a crafter. I have once done AA many years ago and now I do normalfag events, so I can't really say does these apply on AA too.

Does the event have design-fibe or it is just handicraft thing? Design events tend to have more pricely stuff.

Is the event targeted to old or young people? Older people tend to have more money to spent so price your stuff little higher than AA, but on the other hand they think more what they buy. Youngsters want stuff cheaply (I once saw someone's face go :D->D: when she found out the price), and children like cute stuff and their parent buy if the price is low enough.

You should have few of the same designs. I once had some keychain with all differend colours and some granny said she would have bought two for her grandchildren if I had two same ones.

Have your owns style and do something different. Once people didn't stop at my table and later I found out someone sold similar stuff somewhere else with lower price.

Christmas is coming, so almost all related to it will sell. People will also try to find gifts, so sales should be good.

That's what comes in mind now.

I sell a lot of tie-tack style pins and a costumer asked about getting a magnetic that doesn't piece clothes. Anyone have a good source for these? Etsy is surprisingly light on options as is my usual supplier.

need some advice anons.

I commissioned an artist (who I have successfully commissioned in the past) for 2 icon commissions that they were offering for $20 each back in May.

The artist told me they were having back problems and couldn't finish them, a month later then told me they were housesitting and couldn't finish them, more excuses ensue, and they've now gone silent over the last month or so to any of my e-mails asking about updates on the commissions.

As a fellow artist I gave them the benefit of the doubt for all of their reasons why they couldn't finish them, but the radio silence has me worried.

I follow the artist on Twitter and I've noticed they've done countless icons for their friends and has updated theirs twice now since May (in the style they were advertising for the commissions).

I've sent tweets at them asking if they could respond to my e-mails but I've gotten nothing.

Am I fucked? Should I message them on FB? (I found their profile using the name from the PP invoice) Am I out of line for wanting to ask for a refund? I obviously can't make a PP dispute after 5 months of waiting.

TL;DR commissioned an artist back in May, still haven't received them and the artist won't respond to e-mails anymore. What do?

>>9227721
Yeah I'd probably ask them about it on their facebook.

I tracked someone down through their pp email to contact them since they werent responding to my emails .

So any European anons here who used Zap before? I know they had some bad rep a while back but the location is making it awfully tempting to go with them instead of Vograce.

Or am I stupid and should I just go with Vograce?

>>9227724
you don't think that's too stalkerish/weird/annoying?

>>9227721
You should ask for a refund, someone acting that way clearly doesn't want to do the art but are to chicken shit to say so.

>>9227726
When someone has your money and is withholding goods you're legally owed? Hell no.

>>9227721

Message them on other social media but don't resort to private FB unless they have an artist one. If they don't respond, then go through PP and get a refund but give them a head's up, and let them know you opened a claim. They don't want to do your commissions.

>>9227772
they don't have an artist FB account and their Tumblr has been quiet since January. Twitter is the only place I can contact them as an artist. But I'll do the PP claim and e-mail them again.

>>9227721
Seconding >>9227745
They obviously don't want to do it anymore, and I'm betting they've put it off and ignored you SO LONG they're now too scared to even reply. Asking for a refund gives them an out, so they might actually, finally, get back to you.

>>9227804
>>9227745
>>9227724

Thanks everyone. I e-mailed the artist asking for a refund and told them if I don't hear from them in 2 weeks I'm doing a Paypal claim.

Promotion question here:

It's getting closer to Christmas and gift guides and gift blogs are getting more popular. Is it worth contacting these to get featured? Do I have to wait until they discover me?

>>9227816
No worries, op! Hope things work out without getting messy.

>>9228030
it can't hurt?

I've been planning to do another batch of charms, and was wondering what you guys liked in terms of the strap part. I noticed among a lot of the larger charms it'll be a chain with a large clasp, and anything smaller than 1.5" is a string loop. There's some that are just the loop with a lobster clasp on the end, and others with a braided strap (I have these at the moment). What do you guys like?

>>9228259
I like ones in pic related or the braided ones. The one thing I don't like about the charms in the pic is the random gemstones, I feel like random trinkets added on usually make it look kinda cheap? not to mention i feel like they could potentially scratch/rub off the design over time, but maybe I'm paranoid.

>>9228273
aand I dropped my pic

>>9228030
I've had some contact me asking for some of my product for free so they can review it. If they ask for free stuff, don't do it unless they are a giant blog. If you want to promote, try reddit. Look for a subreddit that would be interested in what you sell and post it, just don't make it obvious you are advertising, just post a picture of a cool new thing you made, and when someone asks where to buy it, then post a link. Or post a link to your item on your on blog that has a link to your store.

I've been featured in small tumblr blogs many times and get less than 10 views. Posting on reddit, I've gotten hundreds.

>>9228277
I actually really like extras since I feel like it shows extra effort/care and sometimes they're really well thought out.

A poll for my curiosity
http://strawpoll.de/s8fdx4d

>>9228273
I don't think attached items will have too much impact on the printing if the art is sealed, but I haven't tested it. I do like if it has something to do with the character though, I personally think the example you linked is cute! But I can see what you mean if it is kind of random.

I attached examples of all the different types of charms I had, there's quite a variety of how you can put them together I guess.

>>9228325
The far left Mista is so cute! Source?

I really like beads/extras if they compliment the character or the colors of the design, but I don't much care for it when it just seems like embellishment for embellishment's sake though I appreciate that the effort was put forth.

>>9228316
I like the little added stuff. It's a part of the packaging experience, I guess?

>>9228336
The artist is Balnibarbi! But I got this a long time ago so I'm not sure of they still have their VA charms.

>>9228336
The artist is barawitness in twitter, and Kloysius on storenvy!

I like the extra beads on charms since charms feel a lot plainer by itself. I would dislike it if they were completely random. If they're on lobster clasps, people can always choose to take it off if they dislike it.

I just saw three different artists who aren't mutuals with one another posting pins on their online stores. Are pins going to be the next high saturation fad?

Any help trying to find cute long earrings that can be used with larme?

>>9228453
The enamel pins? They've become readily available at a decent price so people are jumping on that train mighty fast. It's nice to have another option other than the standard tecre buttons but they are quite a bit pricier for both artist & customer.

I'm a crafter, not an artist, dang it.

Someone help me with how to actually make a business card as a crafter. Best I can do it logo on left, etsy store link and what you can find inside on right.

Is it "good enough" or is it terribly bad. I mean, really, all a business card needs is a website, so, meh.

>>9228453
I noticed that a lot of artists are starting to release enamel pins for AA. I guess it's becoming a lot easier to mass produce good quality products like enamel pins and cellphone charms from places like acorn press.

>>9228325
Who made the bojack? I kinda need it.

>>9223126
Was not aware there were threads like this here. Granted I don't ever go on /cgl/. I used to work for a large vendor at Comic Cons that always made at least $10,000. (the owner, not me obviously). There is a notable difference between exhibitors and artists, even though both are technically vendors. I no longer work for that employer though I do have a small online store and have recently started planning attending various anime and comic conventions.

Not sure if anyone wants feedback from someone on the other side of the convention hall, but I'm happy to point out a few things I've noticed while walking through Artist Alley in the past.

>>9228467
The dots on the left side need to be less pixelated, did you do them in Paint? If so try photoshop instead. The list below the URL and tag need to be put in a different layout, either with different bullet points (maybe a needle from one of those Webdings fonts?) or with a different text color.
Would you like some business card inspiration? I have a huge collection from AA's over the years.

>>9228467
Vista Print has a very user friendly design lab for business cards that I've used in the past. I think they still have a deal for 500 cards for 20 bucks.

>>9228479
commissioned a friend to make most of my logo, guess I should fix the dots. Wasn't too sure if it looked ok pixilated or not (I guess that sounds kinda stupid). I'm using photoshop elements 14.
>Would you like some business card inspiration?
yes, please
>>9228486
Is it much different than what I could do in photoshop? I'll try it. Vista print is where I am getting the cards anyways.

>>9228503
Here's a few I picked out, tried to get some that had actual products on the cards so if you go that route you could see a layout for it. (The cups & mononoke bead) Left sides are all fronts of cards, middle is backs, right side are some vertical layouts. Some of these are single sided too. For business cards you wanna keep the info on them short and sweet but still show what you offer.

>>9228503
I was mistaken, their current promo is 500 single side cards for 10 dollars, not 20. It helps with suggesting where to place information on your card so it doesn't look as cluttered or misplaced as it might otherwise. (not to say your cards is bad at present) You have a lot of different options too for templates on logo and information placement.

You certainly don't have to use them, but I benefit from the auto alignment and centering as I don't personally have much skill in that. Granted, I'm a vendor and not an artist like the rest of you guys in this thread.

I also recommend having a point of contact on your card, even if it's just a first name. (though you might want to not post that part on 4chan) Not everyone has a chance to get to know your name or remember it, so having that on your card will help them remember who you were later and puts a human element in it.

Also, consider adding an email. I just went to your site and clicked on the "contact" button, but since I don't have an ETSY account I'd have to first signup to be able to have any way to reach you. A lot of folks are lazy and won't go the extra mile to find someone they are interested in, especially if they have to make an account just to ask you a simple question about something of yours they saw at a convention in the past.

Just my two cents.

>>9228512
Sorry the picture looks worse on a computer than it did on my phone haha. Hopefully you still get the jist of them.

>>9228512
Thank you
>>9228513
Thank you too. Meant to ask what all I should list on my card. Being a crafter, I'm not real sure. Is email and social media important? People don't ask for commissions often, and when they do, I normally have them pay for it through etsy anyways. I'll probably think it over.
>>9228514
Its a lot better than most of what I could find on google images.

>>9228529
Put your shop URL, and any social media that you use to promote your shop (if you don't post anything shop-related on social media, it doesn't need to be on the card). I'd recommend putting your work email on it so that people can ask specific questions if they have them, but if you don't want to interact with customers over email leave it off.

Picture wise, logo + good clean product shots are good things to have.

>>9228467
This... is pretty bad anon. The mascot is really hard to read from the background you've chosen because they're too similar in color. Your business card kind of looks like powerpoint slide. There are too many words. If your website is the most important bit, then make sure that that stands out from the rest of the text. I honestly don't think you need to list all of your items - most people are going to go to the site you list and they can see what you sell from there. If you can actually take photos of your wares, that might be better for a crafter's business card.

Something like this might look less cluttered?

>>9228529
>Is email and social media important?

Yes! I've commissioned artists from AA in the past for a couple projects for my online store and having a direct means of contact for to reach them was very important. Obviously once you have an email, it's easy to make continued correspondence. But having that information out there in the first place is really important.

I agree with this anon >>9228531

Even if you still redirect your customers/commissioners to your Etsy, being able to get a price quote, or basic info from you via Facebook or email will help. (I don't know how Etsy payments work, but sending invoices via Paypal is an option too) I'm not saying what works for me works for everyone, especially not being an artist myself. But it wouldn't hurt. In the end, the best thing to do on any decision is follow your gut and trust your own instincts. If you end up being wrong, learn from it. It's the only way to get better in most cases.

This poster brings up a few good points too. >>9228534
The links should be the focal point of your card. Maybe make the store link and email a larger font than the rest of your information.

I'm not exactly an expert, I mean my logo isn't the best. Granted, it's a sticker that I give out free with each order. (When I'm not out of them lol)

>>9228477
Daikonhime on Twitter! I'm glad that I was able to find Bojack stuff, I love that show.

>>9225837
>>9225881

Are you the same dumbass that was starting shit on AANI because people were telling you ripping off official artwork for perler shit is lazy?

>>9226077
Otakon has a rule against it as well.

The following items are prohibited from sale within The Alley at all table types:
3. Copyright-violating traced, photoshopped, or transferred art. This includes but is not limited to work from "redraw" projects, and pixel artwork, such as pearler or other forms of sprites, which directly copy a licensed work.

>>9228478
Feedback is definitely appreciated!

>>9228273
Oh, I love scorpionstar! I literally have all of the awakening set hanging from the edge of a shelf.

I agree that random charms attached to the keychain feels a bit cheap, but I think the ones in pic related work in a way? Like for Chrom, it can be said that the acrylic gemstone resembles the Mark of the Exalt whilst the gemstone for Robin can be a reference to the Mark of Grima. I like these much better as their earlier designs featured bells and they were kind of annoying when I had a bunch on my bag at once. I feel like the gems in your pic related add to the value a bit more as when I removed the bells, it felt a bit empty without them.

>>9228453
It's going to be the next thing a lot of artists waste their money on. I know this sounds harsh, but I feel like some artists jump on to these fads and don't make that much profit back, if any, because their artwork just doesn't suit the product or is just unappealing.

Sorry for the dumb question, Gulls: but I'm trying to order from Vograce and Coco has asked me to pay by paypal and then send a screenshot when I've done it.

So I don't use the site interface in the message center at all to fill out the order?

>>9228453
Yeah I was going to post the same, suddenly everyone has started making metal or enamel pins?

>>9228277
You made these? I would love to buy the chrom teddy if you ever sell them, the extras on the strap make them a little mote special as long as it doesn't overwhelm the charm I think

>>9228908
*more

>>9228908
I don't think that user is the one who made the charm, however the person who did is

scorpionstar.storenvy.com/

>>9228817
nope, that's standard for Vograce. The message centre is just for contacting and most of the time I'm e-mailing her instead.

>>9228930
Thanks!

I'm happy I finally got around to ordering from them, been meaning to for years.

Anyway, since the Alibaba/Taobao doc is kaput, anyone have good Alibaba provider for stickers?

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2016-Custom-Vinyl-Decals-Window-Stickers_60455101098.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.1Xhc5P

I found these guys, but I'm still new to actually using Alibaba, so I'm not sure how trustworthy they are.

>>9228944
If I'm ever unsure of a seller, I'll contact them and see if they'll offer a sample of my artwork on their products.

>>9228534
omg, thats amazing. Can I send you the files and dimensions it needs to be and such and I pay you for this?
Like I said, I'm a crafter, not an artist, I can't do this stuff x.x

>>9228478
> get back into nv hard and want merch
> come on to the aa thread to see this
Serendipity as fuck.

>>9228467
Our brains tend to clump things into threes, so if you have three separations for the information you want on your card it'll be a lot easier to read. That's what the other anon more or less did with their revision of your card.

I do have a bit of a stupid question about your logo - is that ferret crying or is that supposed to be an open eye? Adding in the eye white behind the pupil would clarify that if it's the latter.

>>9228325
Yeah, I'm not against all trinkets- the ones that I posted are acceptable imo, just on the brink of being a little too clunky.

In your pic I like all the trinkets except the three random bells on the right, although I actually have that same mista charm lol!

So how's the Etsy outtage treating yal? This was supposed to be one of my biggest sales days of the year being one of the last paydays before Halloween

>>9229123
UGH that's why I can't browse etsy right now and is generally a piece of shit to me

>>9229125
A ton of sites are down like Twitter, Reddit, Etsy and paypal because of a hacker server attack. I have three orders that paid for rush delivery and luckily the Etsy order confirmation emails include the buyer's address and USPS is still working.

Has anyone here worked on creating a book of any kind? I want to put together a small comic book for a large convention next spring, but breaking down a proper schedule for when I should be putting things together and giving myself proper deadlines for it is throwing me off. How do you guys organize your schedules and time for working on books, especially when you also deal with a stream of constant conventions and office work? Sorry if this is a silly question. I'm pretty new book making.

>>9229128
Jesus wtf. I thought my Internet was just being shitty. Any links to where I can read up about this?

>>9229123
>>9229125
>>9229128
woah, what? I thought it was my internet, especially after I was able to fix it.

They all stopped working for randomly, but I found a solution, and it has been working for me since

Change DNS address
Press Windows Key + R. Type ncpa.cpl for opening Network Connections window
right click on local area connection, then click properties
Click Internet protocol version(TCP/IPv4), then properties
Click internet protocol ,select “use the following DNS server address”
change DNS server address to global DNS value given below
Preferred 208.67.222.222
Alternate 208.67.220.220

>>9229160
Gizmodo might be a crap site but they have the most comprehensive list of what was affected

http://gizmodo.com/this-is-probably-why-half-the-internet-shut-down-today-1788062835

>>9228459
How retard am I for posting on the wrong thread. Delete please.

Heads up, AX tables are $425 for only one table and one artist alley badge

>>9229180
thanks, changed my macbook pro by going to System Preferences>network>Advanced>DNS>
then paste in 208.67.222.222
and also paste 208.67.220.220

>>9228997
Sure, shoot me an email and your price range!

>>9229211
Kek part of me thinks this should filter out people who can't break at least 500 profit, even at AX, but we all know they're still gonna try.

>>9229332
I generally make 1-5k depending on the show. AX should be worth it even if I have to travel right?

>>9229388

This is what I'm trying to decide for myself now... I'm worried because I heard people can get completely boned on sales for AX AA if they end up in a bad spot, regardless of any other factors, so it seems like I can't even use my profits at other cons to decide if it'd be worth it. I really want to do AX since I never have, but fuck, that feels like a lot of money to dump.

>>9229393
>people can get completely boned on sales for AX AA if they end up in a bad spot
I've done AX for about 6 years now and this is absolutely true. I've been really lucky with table placements so far though. They do give priority seating to AX AA veterans though so the longer you table consecutively, the better chances you have of getting a better spot.

I actually ended up doing $7k or so at AX this year which is double what I made last year. So despite the move, it was still incredibly profitable for me. I had friends who were in the back area and had a miserable time and barely broke even.

The Artist Alley is HUGE though. It's really easy to get lost and a lot of people give up trying to look at the entire AA if they only have 1 day passes. I was in one of the earlier rows, near the entrance and I've had customers tell me that they were going to head out after they finished my row because it was too hot.

If you do decide to go, promo yourself and your location on social media. More and more people are just jotting down their favorite artists' locations and hitting those instead of trying to browse the entire alley. Take photos of your table and post to instagram and tumblr and twitter with appropriate hash tags so people who are browsing for photos day of will see your stuff and maybe try to find you if they like it. Being more proactive with social media will help you stand out in AX's gargantuan AA mess unless you already have a sizable online following.

>>9229043
The world works in mysterious ways, lol.
>New Vegas is best Fallout

>>9228719
>Feedback is definitely appreciated!

Alright, a lot of this will likely come off as common sense, but I'm just going to mention several things that have stood out to me.

>Heads Up & Eye Contact!
A lot of artists like to work on art during Conventions. That's fine, especially if you're working on a commission or just need something to do to pass the time. But don't spend the whole convention with your head down! Look up from time to time and check to see if anyone is admiring your booth or might have a question. A lot of folks don't want to interrupt an artist while they're working and will hold off on their questions if you look busy or really involved in what you're doing. If they leave and you don't notice them, there's a good chance they won't come back, whether they're out of time or money later on.

>Business Cards/Flyers
Vista Print and UPrinting are two great places to get cheap business cards and flyers. If you don't already have some, GET THEM! It's the best way to retain customers that may be interested in shopping from you online. This is especially important if you attend Cons that are a great ways from home. In these cases, having easy access to your online store is the only way those customers will become repeat business. It's fine if you only have an Etsy account or a Facebook page. But if you don't have a card or flyer, you're only hurting yourself. Righting a link or a name on scrap paper or the back of a McDonalds receipt is NOT how you show that you're a dependable artist willing and able to sell to Convention Attendees online.

>>9229422
>Banners!
Another really helpful way to get the attention of your customers is having a banner in front of or behind your booth. (Be aware of your convention's rules on what can be placed in your area, some don't allow anything in front of tables, etc.) You can get a large roll up banner from UPrint for $100. That might seem like a lot of money for just a sign, but remember it's an INVESTMENT! You can reuse it at every single con you go to. The stand is collapsible and the banner itself rolls up and the whole thing fits into a small carrying case, great for storage and easy setup

>Banners PT 2
Make sure your banner is themed with your booth. If you have a mascot, logo, or a common set of colors that you use often, include them in your banner. Your name, Store Name, and links and what you sell are also important. Most folks are attracted to signage, especially when there are several artists near each other selling similar products.

If I see 4 tables all selling jewelry, side by side, I'm going to check out whichever one has the most informative/attention getting sign first. Proper signage can answer most customer's questions before they even approach you. Things like, Who you are, What you sell, What your Store Name is etc

>Consider Offering Discounts
If you want to give people a sense of urgency to buy from you, try doing a limited time sale. Something like "5% off all sales before 1pm" or something similar might encourage people to visit your table and see what you have to offer before the time expires. It's not guaranteed but there's no harm in trying.

My former employer would include a discount code for 10% of all online orders on the flyers that we would hand out at Conventions. We'd hand out thousands of flyers a day and see a noticeable increase in online sales after each convention thanks to the flyers. (He also paid for premium vendor booths each event, so we had the advantage of being near the doors with a high level of traffic.)

>>9229426
>Bring Everything You Want to Sell
If you offer it online and have room in your vehicle, bring it! The majority of Convention customers will not become repeat shoppers, even with all the signage and flyer I mentioned before. People come from hundreds of miles away with the intent to give you cash for something tangible they can have right now. Even if you don't have room on your table for everything you brought, bring it anyway. If someone shows interest in something like your drawings, but you don't have the specific theme they want on display, but you have it in a box under the table, bam, you saved a potential lost sale.

I've seen a lot of Comic Book artists rent a table just to tell people about a comic they're making. As in, they have nothing to sell, they're promoting a future idea. Unless you have an incredibly engaging sales pitch and one hell of a story line, few people will pay attention to you. Why? Because you don't have anything to offer them NOW!

>Free Stuff
People love free stuff and that is the best way to get them to talk to you. If you have a sign on your table offering free bags, you will have people stop by. One of my former bosses' main competitors (We sold very similar items) gave away free plastic bags, like the kind you'd get at JC Penny or Sears. They had his Store Name, Logo and Booth Number on it, so other folks seeing the bags new where to find his booth. (He also paid the Convention extra to have a display of them staged right in front of the main doors of the Convention Center)

>>9229428
>Free Stuff Pt 2
Buying custom bags online and have your logo, store name, and website printed on them to get two birds with one stone. Not only will people stop by for the free bag, they'll become free walking advertisement for you. Again, this isn't a guarantee and can cost a bit. Some people enjoy a more permanent bag than just the plastic kind. 4Print.com will make custom drawstring bags for about $2 each, but they often have a large order minimum, so it quickly adds up. I don't recommend this unless you have the spare money for advertising, and aren't dependent on sales to recoup your money.

>Know something about what you're selling
If you are selling a necklace popularized by an Anime character, know something about the show. You don't have to watch all 500+ Episodes of Inuyasha, but if you're selling the beaded necklace he wears in the Anime, it helps to know what it does. This gives you a conversation piece with customers. Not all of us have the greatest public speaking or salesmanship skills, but if you already have something you can talk about for each of the pieces you sell, you won't have to struggle so much with small talk with a customer that could lead to a sale. If your art/crafts aren't based on a show or are something unique you crated, tell them why you like. If you don't know why I should buy something from you, neither do I.

>>9229430
>Be Friendly (especially important)
I shouldn't even have to say this, but I can't count the number of times I've asked Artists about their work and them seem BOTHERED. What the hell? I'm actively showing interest in what you're selling, don't snub me or act like you have something better to be doing, this is why you're here! If you have business cards or flyers like I've suggested, don't be hesitant to give them out. Some artists seem to feel like giving out a flyer to their site instead of making a convention sale is like conceding to defeat. Yeah, customers might not buy from you even if they have your card and website, but they sure as hell won't buy from you if act depressed that you had to give them your information to look you up.

If you can make your customer smile or laugh, or even just talk about their favorite anime/comicbook/tv show etc, they will be more inclined to purchase from you. Compliment their cosplay or outfit. If you have something you think would go well with what they're wearing, suggest it! In most cases the worst thing they'll say is "no thanks." (On that note, if you get a customer that treats you like shit, DO NOT let it ruin the rest of your day. It'll only hurt your chances of connecting with the other customers)


Hmm, this all came out rather wordy. I'll try to write up all the key points in a tl;dr.

You know. I went to a craft fair the other weekend, and one of the vendors forgot his business cards, but he had one of these with his business info on it and stamped it on a sticky note for me.

Might be worth having as a back up in the event someone forgets or runs out of business cards during an event.

>>9229419

Yeah, I don't have much of an online following despite my best efforts, so I'd say I do really well at cons despite my online presence, not because of it. Which doesn't bode well for AX where it's so over-saturated that my impression is you have to be super popular or in a lucky spot to stand out.

>>9229433
>Be Friendly (especially important)
>I shouldn't even have to say this, but I can't count the number of times I've asked Artists about their work and them seem BOTHERED.

This is so fucking important. I love funding other artists, I spend most of my free time in the AA when I am not working in the dealer's room.
If you at like I am not worth your time after I ask a question about your work. Then I will not bother to buy anything from your table. Which sucks ass because it has happened to artists who had really cute charms and pins </3

>>9229443

That's a pretty good idea actually, thanks

okay so you guys, how much are you willing to spend on a laminated double sided charm? Assuming that the art is good/an art style that you like. I can't afford doing acrylic charms but I still want to sell them.

>>9229450
Exactly, I'll always remember the older guy that was selling really cool Steam Punk clothing. I was interested in some of the hats featuring cogs and such, but I didn't have time on my break to really look at everything he had. He made me ask 3 times before he was willing to give me a business card, like the card was worth more to him than my patronage. I didn't even bother looking up his store after that.

Here's a poorly formatted "Convention Guide" I put together.

>>9229443
Good idea.

>>9229559
I'd pay more for a nice quality & sealed shrinky dink charm over laminated. You can make shrink film look semi-professional and sturdy if you put a little effort in it. I think the drawback is that mostly they can't be double-sided, but if you add embellishments like people were talking about above, you could still make a nice product.

>>9229573

I was thinking about doing shrinky dinks but I really don't have the time to spend on trial and error with those sadly. This con isn't huge, I'm usually one of the only people who sells stickers and little knick knacks like that, so I don't really have much in competition. I also already own everything for laminated charms so its just something I can do thriftily that is a little more substantial than stickers. I do plan on doing acrylic charms and whatnot for the future, it's just a little too close to the deadline for the con

>>9229594
Ah okay, In that case make sure the paper is printed double-sided rather than two papers together, the lamination will hold up better over time. How big are you planning to make them? I sold roughly 2.5" ones for $3 or 2 for $5, they were only single sided but they sold fairly well.

>>9229603

Probably around 2-2.5 inches. I usually sell stickers around the same size for $1 each and they sell like hotcakes. Also I was planning on doing two sheets so thank you for the advice on doing double sided paper instead.

>>9229450
This has happened to me a few times before. I was walking around the AA with a friend and he asked one of the artists if a particular piece had a backstory (it was a really beautiful print). She proceeded to say, "no" in such a nasty tone and roll her eyes as if it was such a stupid thing to ask. Needless to say, we both left and didn't buy anything. Be polite to people that are expressing a genuine interest. I personally love getting asked questions about my work. It's nice when someone takes an interest in what I've done.

I've been waiting impatiently for replies from Alibaba sellers, then I realized that the Chinese probably don't work on weekends.

I'm bad at waiting.

>>9229450
I can't count the amount of times I've complained to friends about artists ignoring people when they're browsing their booths. It's such a huge turn off for me, especially if it's an artist I'm excited to see. I understand if you're busy working on commissions or a bit shy but just saying hello goes a long way. Please, please, please don't ignore your customers!

>>9228325
depending on who you buy from, the braided ones fall apart really easily if you use them on your phone.

does anyone have any good examples of print displays? ones with a lot of prints....

Instead of buying stickers that are dye/laser/kiss cut, will people notice if they're manually cut out?

I'm trying to be a real cheap bastard, but keep everything quality lookin. Probably not possible though.

>>9229717
wont notice/wont care as long as you're careful. It gives you something to do at the table at least

>>9229717
My friend who does AAs a lot manually cuts hers. She sells a ton of stickers.

As long as you're not terribly messy you're gonna be good.

Anyone know how Vograce does during rush times? I'm not sure if the end of the year is a rush period, but I'm preparing for my first con in January and am wondering how much cushion time I have before I have to send in my designs. I was thinking end of November for mid-Jan con, but is that enough time (assuming all the setup goes smoothly)?

Might be a little bit of a weird question but.

I live in Canada and I'm moving pretty soon to very close by the border (just above Point Roberts). I cant imagine the border crossing here is a very long wait because who the heck goes to Point Roberts. I run my online business but currently shipping to the US is expensive for me. Would it be worth it to cross the border and ship from a USPS office if the recipient was in the USA, to offer a lower shipping rate for them?
Also is there any technical issues with this I should be aware of, and will there be an issue if the return address is a Canadian one?

semi-related. Do people in this scenario rent PO boxes to get packages delivered to them in the USA? A lot of times there are sellers who wont send things to Canada or the shipping is ridiculously expensive. I find a lot of times they'll have "free shipping if you spend X amount in the USA!!!" and then like $30 to ship to canada
>being a leaf suck

Fanime applications are coming up. You guys prepping your portfolios? I don't even know how to make it look good for their jury since I never really understood how they chose who got in or not. I did notice that there's an abundance of print artists.

>>9229813
Your situation is so specifically yours that I doubt anyone would have concrete advice for you that's backed up with actual experience. It sounds like a good plan though, if not a little bit of hassle on your part. Why don't you just charge your customers a bit more to cover for shipping? I haven't heard any complaints from Canadian customers about my shipping fees for them. People usually know that shipping will be a bitch if they're not in the same country. If they want something, they'll pay for the shipping.

>>9229860
Thanks anon. I might try it out for a bit and see how it goes. Right now I'm pretty close to the border but not close enough for me to want to cross it for shipping. Probably a 20 minute drive + popular crossings so it could take a long time to pass over. Not worth the hassle.
But with my relocation it seems like it will be pretty easy to flop over there, about a 10 min drive and a really dead border crossing.

I honestly dont think my shipping price is terrible right now. Its $10 USD for canada and USA. But I get comments on my insta like "Oh I love this but $10 to the states is brutal!!!"
Maybe its because I'm Canadian and I'm constantly paying ridiculous amounts for shipping, that $10 seems like a dream to me.

Paypal question; I've recently upgraded to a business account but it seems like the invoices I send still contain my name, and I can't figure out where to change this.

>>9229859
working on it but expecting to get rejected. I don't have tumblr style or a cute animu style but like and draw the same series as people who do. there is no way I will be in.

>>9229880
Yeah, people IN the states aren't used to paying high shipping, I can't speak to other people, but I know that if I like a charm or a button and I go to order it, then see like 8-10$ international shipping, I just forget about it and go buy something else from someone who has cheaper shipping.

International buyers are used to it because most things are expensive shipping for them, but unless you sell something really unique USA buyers have other options.

You've got to ask yourself if the 10min drive is worth the sale, though, or if you're spending your profit in time and gas.

Hey gulls, I have an idea for a plushie, but I wanted to run it by you guys first, get some feedback?

I'm watching All Out! and the rugby balls are rip offs of the main rugby ball brand, I was thinking of doing plushies of the rugby ball from the show, but my only worry would be lack of market for it.

I think it's a cute idea, but thought it best to get views from other people first, so I'd appreciate some input?

Does anyone know where to get those custom moleskins done? I heard there were some sellers on Aliexpress, but I'm not sure which search terms to use.

Alternatively, does anyone know anyone who's doing a notebook order?

>>9229880
>>9230014
What if you offered some type of discount or promo code to US buyers? If they spend over a certain amount of money (enough that your profits could help make up the shipping cost), they get a certain amount off shipping.

>>9230037
Is that show popular at all? It seems to be selling horribly and I see no fanart or anyone talk about it on twitter. I wouldn't count on you getting a lot of sales since YOI and Haikyuu are getting all the attention for sports anime.

>>9230037
>>9230195
It's like the typical popular vs niche question. YOI had charm preorders open the moment the first episode was out so a lot of it is hype FOTM sales. When Ace of Diamond anime came out it got drowned out by other sports anime, but the fans of it are devoted enough to buy fan merch whenever they see it. So if you really like All Out, make a small limited stock as a fan but don't expect a lot of sales.

>>9230037

All Out! is NOT popular at all. It's not popular with people who like sports anime because it's not very good compared to most other sports anime, and it's not popular with fujoshi because the character designs are so ugly. You may run into a few devoted fans who are eager to buy anything they can find, but most people are not going to be lookign for All Out! stuff.

>>9230206
YOI feels like Free! to me in terms of the fan hype, so I think it's worthwhile to hop on because if it's like Free then fans will stick around and buy stuff long after it ends.

I have a really stupid question. So basically a friend of mine want to commission some custom merch of a pony that kind of looks like fluttershy from MLP, but with a long snout. I've drawn this absolutely terrible rendition for visual reference. I just can't remember the name of the thing and can neither find it anywhere.
Please help

>>9230336

>>9230334
That's what I was thinking. It's nice that AO is being sponsored by Japan's Rugby association and everything but it's being completely ignored like Days and that other baseball anime from last season. Doesn't help that YOI, Haikyuu, swords, and Utapri are stealing all the female fans this season.

YOI could stay as a FOTM but I'm hoping otherwise since I'm planning on making some merch. It's so damn charming, can't wait for the other skaters to show up.

>>9229813
I know someone who does this, I have bought from them. Send them a message etsy.com/shop/Papillon9

How early is too early for closing artist alley/dealer tables? really annoyed about these cons who open and close the applications an entire 8 months before the con. Most cons close 2 to 6 months before the con.

>>9230408
Depends on when they get the results out. I don't mind if applications close 8 months early if they send out acceptance emails quickly after.

Sort of off-topic but related since this has to do with prints and usage of other artists' work. Do Walmart/CVS/other cheap retail printers stop you from printing things like classical paintings or just random bizarre images? Is it frowned upon to print an online contemporary artist's drawing if they have no interest in selling it as a print (to the point that they deleted it off their blog)?

I'm trying to put posters up to personalize my living quarters, so it would all be for private usage. Thanks.

walgreens made me sign a thing saying i owned what i was printing once but never rlly asked me again with the multiple of times i went back there to print stuff for school

>>9230521
Walgreens used to make me sign a waiver saying that I had rights over the image that I was printing.

When ordering though Vograce,

is the transaction done entirely through the messsages, and not placing a contract?

>>9230610
Yes.

Did anyone get screenshots of the Uline/Trump trainwreck post? I just missed it.

>>9230670
Tldr is some guy got really pissed off at a girl in the group saying political stuff didn't belong there. He called her out on being a Trump supporter (and everyone else that didn't agree with him) which caused a shitstorm. Eventually he posts a picture of the girl with the confederate flag in rainbow colors and proceeds to tell everyone telling him to stfu that they are trying too hard. He was a fucking mess, and it was juicy trolling from a top tier drama lama. I'm sorry you missed it anon

What jump ring size is good to use for 1.5" acrylic keychains?

>>9230683
What the hell someone surely screenshotted it right?!

What the fuck

>>9230781
I'm so sad that AANI has turned into this. I don't remember it being this shitty two/three years ago? Or maybe I was too focused on improving to really notice the crap.

Also, how the FUCK could anyone look at that and think, "yeah, I can sell this!"

>>9230794
>Also, how the FUCK could anyone look at that and think, "yeah, I can sell this!"
Probably like up near the top of the thread where your friends/family always tell you "Ohhhhh it's so good!" and you just ride that wave without getting experienced unbiased opinions.

>>9228924
Thank you!

>>9230781
The best part is that those in the pics are $4 to $12, definitely worth it

>>9230781
INKLSFKLH the drippy hurricane one is so rude

>>9230781
>items on a naked mattress
ew.

>>9230746
The one from Vograce seems to be .7-1x8mm or so? Though my keychains are 2.5", I don't know if that will make much of a difference.

Best place to get enamel pins made? A lot of my Inktober stuff would look pretty cool as pins. I'm looking into getting patches made (already have someone for this) since I rarely see those.

I'm kinda worried about jumping the gun though. I've only sold at one con so far and I maintain my websites whivh have had some sales. I just don't want to spend so much and not make a profit .

>>9230898
zap creatives just launched theirs and is priced p good. double of minimum order only cost like 20 bucks more

>>9230902
Thanks!

How do I make friends at cons with other artists?

I see all the other girls talking with each other and seeming to be happy friends even though technically all our tables are competing for business...

>>9230925
AA is technically a business but for a lot of people it's just a place to sell merch of your favorite fandoms and meet others. Keep the business aspect in mind but don't sperg out about not being social with your "competition".

Start off with taking a look around and buying/talking to artists who are in similar fandoms as you are. If they're open to talking (you can easily tell by body language), then chat a bit and trade twitters or something. Think this goes more well if you're both into more obscure fandoms. If it doesn't work out, don't get discouraged!

>>9230134
If the coupon was set so that the $$$ amount was equal to two items or three inexpensive items, I'd probably use it!

>>9230334
All Out! has bara characteres, so it's not targeting fujoshi. I've got a gay man in my twitter feed who is freaking obsessed, but the series is very very niche. It'd probably do better if the plot and story were interesting, but the series main selling point is Those Muscles.

I think fanservice art will do better than the rugby ball plush - but if you enjoy the series, you could probably sell a couple plush, too.

>>9230925
I don't see anyone else as competing for my business unless they are straight up stealing my concepts, maybe your point of view colors how you approach friendships in this space.

>>9230521
Worked in the Walmart photo center for four years. It's a first time firing offense to sell copyrighted images, but how much managers actually care depends on the store. They won't sell you anything with a visible watermark, but for other art If you walk into the store with a signed copyright release you'll probably be fine. You can print off the walmart copyright release from the website, you'll be lieing by signing it, but that moves the legal blame from the store to you.

Does anyone else see male artists frequently being lower quality than everyone else in the hall? It feels like AA staff only passes them thru jury process to attempt to have more men in the hall. This is so fucking stupid and makes me so mad everytime I see it

>>9231022
I imagine they're willing to pass anyone through that is willing to pay them for a table, regardless of sex. They're trying to make money, not enforce gender equality.

>>9231022
I see a pretty even mix of good and bad

>>9229812
This is plenty of time! Even during rush, Vograce tends to finish up orders within a month. On off seasons you might get it in two weeks or so. Otherwise just keep an eye out for Chinese holidays where businesses will be taking off (there's a lot of them)

Busiest times of the year are May-August, because of summer con season. Theres not many big cons during the winter, til around February (but then you're hit with Chinese New Years)

>>9231022
Actually, maybe it's just from what i've seen here, but guys are less frequently in AA's but --on average-- seem to have slightly better stuff than the average girl's art here.

>>9231022
Maybe I'm bias, but no. I notice men normally draw more sexual art or art with a more western style, but I wouldn't say it is lower quality.

>>9231022
personally i think if anything men should be glad we let them have tables at all

so many times ive heard guys complain about stupid shit with them wasting time trying to hit on people - or worse - hitting on customers

>>9231022

I'm a dude in the AA, and the only thing that's so fucking stupid is your crazy assumption that all guys in the AA are garbage. The worst artists I see in AAs by far are usually youngish teenage girls, but that doesn't mean I'm going to assume all girls in the AA suck.

>>9231212
Yeah, this. I see more guys in the AA with a western/comic kind of style, but I wouldn't say they're worse than anybody else for that.

>>9231220
>personally i think if anything men should be glad we let them have tables at all

replace "men" with any other group of people and you will hopefully realize how insane you look

>>9231220
This is some weak bait

>>9231022
>>9231220
"AA isn't sexist though"

lets not do this again guys.

>>9231236
The bait is so obvious, stop falling over yourselves gulls.

Why did I just apply to a sci-fi con? I don't even like sci-fi. I'm just really itching to table again.

>>9230591
>>9230522
>>9231001
Alright, thanks for the answers. I'll head over to /a/'s buyfag thread to get more conclusive answers on where to print non-self-created works, especially if someone could get fired.

I'm prepping up my portfolio for anime for the first time. What links do you typically sum it for the 3-5 link requirement? I only have a store link and a tumblr. I have an etsy and a store by but they're pretty much identical so I'm lost on what kind of links they're looking for.

>>9231494
I meant fanime. Sorry for the autocorrect.

>>9231494
3 to 5 links? I've never seen one ask for more than one. They normally just want to see your products and past table set ups.

>>9231524
It says on their faq page that you should be ready to submit 3-5 links. Am I misunderstanding their wording? Do they mean links to 3-5 images of your products? :/

>>9230881
I know, its downright insensitive,

Apparently 50% of her profits are donated to charity but considering the cost of materials is probably next to nothing that's kinda silly. If she really wants to run a charity shop it should be as close to 100% as possible.

>not like she actually makes sales anyway.

>>9231538
>Do they mean links to 3-5 images of your products?
honestly, probably. I wouldn't think they would want to have to browse several blogs for each artist, but idk.

>>9231494
>3-5 links for sample images

dude... dude. I agree it's not the clearest wording, but it says right there they just want images.

>>9231576
That's what I automatically thought, but wasn't someone in the previous thread talking about how the submitted tumblr, storenvy, and devianart for the 3-5 link requirement?

>>9230781
Awful looking, overpriced, and photographed on a naked mattress? They're just hittin it out of the park today aren't they?

>>9223943
Wait, that's not Omocat?

Where are you getting your patches made? I've been interested to make patches for myself.

Random draw-feel but jesus

I have a long distance friend and we trade packages all the time to keep in touch. This time I decided to make her a drawing of her and her bf to include in the parcel. Its been so SO long since I've done a traditional drawing, my line control was so damn wobbly. Even digital drawings took a back burner for me for a long time for personal reason. It feels bad man to regress in your drawing skills.

>>9231603
They explained it as they needed 3-5 links to their work, not specifically image links.

I went to Zap Creatives to check how much their custom stickers were, not expecting much because of their charm prices;

and they're the cheapest I've found when factoring in the shipping to Australia and everything else. I'm pleasantry surprised.

>>9232138
I noticed a lot of my mutuals using Zap lately, maybe they're getting better at charms too? Though one of them had a hard time getting customer service to reply back about getting their order wrong.

>>9232212
They don't give very good instructions. You order the shit you want

then you send the files through to their email. They don't say what to call the subject of the email, or what other information to give them.

They make it so that so many things can go wrong.

Spotted an old friend in the background

>>9232463
nice

>>9232071
>used to have pretty good anatomy skills
>could freehand without refs pretty accurately because observational/muscle understanding was internalized from high school up until end of college; could do perspective and foreshortening too
>got job
>drawing repetitive things for work
>always too burned out from work to draw in own time
>anatomy gets worse and now have to always check with refs but it never looks right anymore; can't even do perspective/foreshortening stuff anymore
Isn't it frustrating, anon? Not being able to do what you once were able to do? My mom used to be an artist but at some point developed unsteady/shaking hands and was always sad she couldn't draw steady lines anymore.

>>9232473
I feel the same, anon. I used to be able to draw complex things like cars/car interiors with spot on perspective without reference and a quickly sketched perspective grid. Started working as a colorist and now I'm super fast with photoshop and I've learned a lot of technical printing knowledge, but I know I'd be super rusty going back to speed sketching complex objects.

>>9229322
Did you ever get my e-mail? :/

>>9230925
I've mainly made friends with other artist just with trades and chatting them up, then getting their social media. At a basic level you just be a friendly person, follow them, like their posts, and then when another con rolls around I'll send them a message like "hey, going to x con? Want to share a room/try to sit next to one another?" And it goes from there. I'll also sometimes ask my artists friends to critique my work or spill the beans on suppliers (if we're cool like that).

Tbh most of my "artist friends" are more like acquaintences that we just kind of use each other for likes and convenience.

>>9232473
I was a lot more diversive and ambitious before secondary school. I did an art focus but since I was arting in school I put more focus on cosplay outside of it. These days my skill is better, sure, but I have no idea how to finish anything to make a finished illustration/painting/whatever. Discovering promarkers helped somewhat, but still.

Also I can't make interesting compositions or even attempt at backgrounds anymore lol.

>>9232634
lol @ your last sentence. I think the real divider between acquaintance artists and artist friends is who you want to have dinner with after a long con night.

>>9232634
that sounds awful.
>>9232782
I agree with this. I'm generally friendly but I don't bother engaging anyone who I'm not interested in forming a real relationship with. If you come off as just wanting my blood/resources I'll brush you off like the parasite you are.

I sent a different artist a gift for their birthday, this time it was just a giftcard so they don't freak out about stuff with their address ~_~

>>9233032
god anon why can't you be my fan

>>9233038
maybe i am~

Does anyone ever have issues with vograce's tracking numbers?

My package was shipped on the 18th, and Coco said it'd take 4-7 days to arrive. The tracking number is still saying it's not found. Wanted to know if it's normal so I don't bother Coco over nothing.

>>9233311
Is it shipped via DHL? Call them, these shipments will have two different shipping numbers sometimes and coco likes to give out the wrong one. DHL will be able to give you the correct one over the phone.

>>9233313
It was with SF International (which I've never even heard of). It was like 14$ shipping for four sample charms which is why I'm a little irritated it's not working.

I've really been into flat coloring lately. But how do you make it look not lazy? I'm so used to highly saturated and rendered images that I want to flat color but can't help thinking that it looks "lazy."

>>9233485
heavily rendered images can often hide things like bad anatomy, bad or weak compositions or weak color theory. Usually you have to bump up these three to make up for the "sparkle" factor of rendered images. I have the same issue heh.

>>9233485
Put the effort into your lineart instead. Use interesting lines, weights, maybe even hatching in the really dark areas.

>>9233490
>>9233511
The thing I don't get is that some artists i like who mainly flat color their art have simple lines, by which I mean not much line weight, no mindblowing composition, and very simple color schemes. But they still look cute. And I'm like, how do they achieve this cute muted look?

>>9233520
Simple doesn't mean weak though, simple color schemes can still be good, simple lines can still be good. Even sketchy lines can be good, their designs and shape usage can be strong too, even if it's just a character standing around.If you compare it to your own work of a similar subject I'm sure you can see where your art is weaker when you break it down like this.

>>9233520
That depends on color choice, then. I know an artist that does that, but they use a lot of pastel colors so it works.

>>9233320
SF international is one of the biggest courier/ shopping services in China. (Nobody in China really uses the everyday post office, the myriad of couriers are much better and cheaper) SF has a rep for being a better quality service than the rest. They're opening up branches on the west coast of the US and are positioning themselves to give FedEx some real competition in the Pacific. So with their reliability they really should know where your stuff is.

Which site are you going to in order to track your package? I'm assuming the SF international English site? Try one of those multi carrier sites that will accept any tracking number from anywhere. If that doesn't work, ask coco or whoever your rep is to double check for typos.

>>9233599
Sorry, courier/shipping service, not shopping service.

>>9233032
>>9233046
Out of curiosity, do people like you also like it when artists make patreons, overshare irl information on tumblr, and reblog those 1-100 lists of "send me a number/prompt and I'll answer"?

I avoid any of those since I'm a private person and because it feels so spammy and vain when I think my followers just want to see art. I know I'm not too fond of going through my tumblr dashboard and having to see chunk of reply posts an artist made about whether they like grapes or if they're a virgin.

>>9233599
I tried trackingmore and aftership. I sent Coco a message about the number, hopefully that's the issues. Thanks for all your help with this!

>>9230336
>>9230339
Would anyone want this as an embroidered velcro patch if the proceeds (minus production cost) went to charity?

>>9233520

Yeah, I really struggle with this too as somebody who has a more realistic style. I really wish I could have the simple appeal that these other artists have because it seems like it would save me so much time and be more appealing to buyers, too, but I don't know how they pull it off.

>>9233981
Realistic style doesn't automatically mean rendered shading and complex line weight. Not directed at you specifically, but I see a lot of people say they can't do things since they draw realistic style and it feels like an excuse for your own skillset (same way a beginner animu artists goes "but it's my style"). Check out Alphonse Mucha, Moebius, Hiroshi Yoshida, or ligne claire art for inspiration and to study from.

>>9233878
I don't think there are that many people "like" me since I spend so much time on comms in AA

I'm fine with artists making patreons although I dont use the platform, oversharing is always kinda tacky with those huge list posts, but it's up to them and some fans like it.

Personally I enjoy when there's a low level amount of info on a twitter with a few personal updates sometimes. PLEASE post planned conventions you'll attend though, it's sad when artists dont do that. Lowkey posts about being excited for a birthday are fine and give fans opportunity to send stuff though, especially if you have a wishlist or general PO box you setup

mostly I'll just anon send redemption info for giftcards anonymously thru tumblr, I'm not doing it to garner any favor with them and I almost got labeled as a stalker before,so I just like to give back to them some

feel like I'm rambling, I'll monitor this thread tho

How much would you say black friday/cyber monday/xmas/etc accounts for your sales? It's my first year on Etsy so I'm just wondering if I should double down with all my free time right now and try to put out a wide range of things before the holidays, lol

>>9230794
The size of the group has exploded over the last few years. So not only was there a huge increase of shitty stuff, but it's also worth considering that back when the group was smaller, it was mostly composed of the really dedicated/devoted AA'ers. Now that everyone's in it, from the professionals to the casuals, there is definitely a hike in this quality content.

>>9233878
I would never do it myself, and I'm not interested in the personal lives of my favorite artists, but if people are asking or responding to their oversharing and stuff then I'm not really going to complain about it.

>>9232463
it looks even worse in comparison to those corgis

>>9234088
black friday/cyber monday account for 0 sales for me. People don't really go to etsy looking for deals.
Holidays are good though, you have to remember, people aren't buy just for xmas, but many kids get money on xmas so they'll be buying stuff soon after that, so be ready for that.

>>9234018

I really hate having to rely on doing everything realistically. I regret listening to everyone who told me not to draw animu because now that I want to, I can't stylize at all. Trust me, I am not defending my style or using it as an excuse--I hate it and I would trade it in an instant for a cutesy/simplified style if I could.

>>9234215
You can still work towards it. Styles aren't permanent.

>>9234215
This so much. I understand its good to start on a good foundation of knowledge. But those who are like "dont start drawing stylized until you MASTER EVERYTHING EVER" are full of garbage. If I could do it again I would prefer to study both at the same time.

>>9233878
I'm not origonal anon, but I'm a patreon user and I'll buy birthday gifts off amazon wishlists for artists I like sometimes.

I pledge to patreon for additional content - sketches, livestreams, process videos, etc. I love patreon, but I do expect something for the money. The artists I buy gifts for aren't oversharey, but do casually share generic info like the things they're into and a little bit of what they're up to on their lives on twitter or personal blogs. I do see them more as people than other artists who only have their art out there without their personality attached.

>>9228325
sauce on the cute beetle?

>>9233878
I personally share very little about my personal life. I'll mention classes occasionally but, beyond that, it's all about my art. I have a separate tumblr for my work to avoid this overlap. The only thing that's sort of personal is my Instagram account and that's only because I was too lazy to make a separate account for my cosplay. Even then, I don't talk about my personal life.

I agree that there's a line that shouldn't be crossed. There's friendly and professional and then there's oversharing and giving too many intimate details. My followers don't need to know what I ate for breakfast or that I went on a date last week.

>>9233878
I know your question was meant for rich anon who likes to give gifts but i feel like there's a funny kind of anti-"over sharing" attitude here because you guys see it as attention whoring or something.

Realistically though, it's probably just different strokes for different folks. Some people don't want to know anything about the artist other than the art. They might even hate it because they see it as desperation. But I'm betting there's an equal amount of people who love it because they love knowing their favorite artists are also normal people like them. They like putting a face to the art, so to say.

So in the end, if you don't like "over-sharing" (a completely subjective term), don't. If you do like, then do. Why the thinly veiled accusations of vain and spam, some people are just more introverted or extroverted. That's life~

>>9232463
sauce on the corgis?

>>9234328
naomi romero

>>9234321
rich? ha I live paycheck to paycheck with the cons and commissions as it is
it's still nice to give gifts though and hope that you can brighten someone else's day~

>>9234266
CoeyAndShy on Etsy! It's listed in a group of Steven Universe items.

>>9233878
Depends on the platform. If it's tumblr, I'd probably be following them for art especially with the tagging system. But if it's twitter, I'm fine with reading random tweets about classes or work because twitter is more geared towards socializing/posting about yourself than just art. For twitter, it's nice to read funny tweets or see the artists talk about their thoughts on fandoms, etc.

>>9233878
My twitter is a personal account first and an art account second. I have a good handful of followers and many of my friends (both more popular and less popular) are the same way. I have no desire to separate desu (I hate maintaining accounts.)

I'm very open about my depression on my twitter and that's actually helped gain attraction to my original art (which is usually depression based.) But of course my largest following is for fandom/con stuff.

So eh, to me it doesn't make much of a difference what other people do on their accounts. Don't really care if its unprofessional since everyones following me for dudes kissin or whatever anyways.

>>9234321
I personally love personal posts because it makes them feel more real if that makes sense. Posting nothing but art seems too portfolio-ish. Unless it's a portfolio account, I definitely love learning more about an artist as a person.

>>9234404
I feel like twitter is more of a personal account than say, tumblr or deviantart. I clean up my tweets occasionally, but a follower on twitter will see a lot more art irrelevant info like me complaining about school or me being excited over a show. Whereas tumblr/DA is more of a portfolio.

>>9233944
uh, yeah probably

>>9234215
>can't stylize at all
>learning to do things realistically

sounds like an imagination/ learning to let go problem

>>9225837
It's pretty mediocre stuff anon. I know those dolls are pre-made (you bought them as blank canvases at a craft store) Did you spray paint them or something? The pixels beads are super lazy. Over-all it's nothing special. Try focusing on one thing and adding your own personal touch instead of a table full of generic crafts.

>>9230898
Patches have been rising in popularity over the past few years on account of personal embroidery machines now being considered 'must-haves' for starting plushmakers.

>>9230925
Find an artist with merch in the same fandom as your table. Talk about the fandom, offer up a small ticket item and ask about an art trade. You're one step closer to a con buddy.
Room sharing with other artists is a great idea too as you'll likely have matching schedules and goals for the weekend.

>>9231022
The male artists I've seen in midwestern alleys are either high pressure salesmen who don't understand their target audience (awkward weebs) or guys that look intimidating at first glance (piercings, many tattoos, etc) but end up being total bros as long as you don't pass them over because they're a dude in a chick's world.

>>9232463
Sweet Jesus it's still alive...

Before this thread dies, thanks for the help. I know some of you still won't like it much, but you guys really helped point me in the right direction with the design and with that I was able to get some help and make the final design look amazing. I love how it turned out personally.

>>9235776
Are you still looking for a little bit of advice for type/layout on it? It looks way improved by the way!

(Also you should look into getting rounded corner business cards to match the description box's rounded edges!)

>>9235784
the rounded corner idea would have been good, but i'm honestly good with it now. Spent enough time on it and I think it looks good enough.

>>9235791
Alright! Keep it in mind when you have to reorder more I guess. I like the colors you used.

>>9235776
Try a different typeface for the Poku Poku or hand draw something. The rough edges don't work when everything else is so clean and generally it doesn't look great when hand drawn looking type is repeated. Also kinda hard to interpret. Is it Poku? Boku? Loku?

Otherwise the layout is great

>>9235776
It's honestly really really hard to read the P in pokupoku

Wasnt there one anon once that wanted to do those kid like beading things for AA?
Anyways I never thought I'd see one this nice, but yeah pic related to that anon. These are gorgeous and would 10/10 buy them

>>9237634
more of their work if anyones interested
https://www.instagram.com/_fairyland_/

What's the meaning of this?

>>9239157
I got a similar message, but I figured it was a one off issue with Paypal. (I had to call them b/c they locked my account due to suspicious activity) but I'm starting to get suspicious of the misspelling in "November" while mine had a typo in "Unfortunately".

New fees from Storenvy maybe?

Two of my classmates from university this year have a table at a small britbong con. I was thinking of saving up and getting a table there next year, but heres the kicker:
This year they have banned any form of fanart being sold.

Technically they can't ban public domain stuff eg. Vocaloid fanart, but realistically this is going to kill off a LOT of sales for the artists. I've never heard of a con, let alone a small con in Manchester banning fan art.

Whats even more funny, is that on the website for the con at least half of the artists there have fan art images on their promotional banners. This is going to be a shit show if all these artists turn up with portfolios decked out with Tumblrite SU/Overwatch/whatever the fuck is popular right now pastel vomit fan art and the con organisers tell them they can't sell.

Anyone at Kumoricon? How are the sales there? Worth flying out to?

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Not at Kumoricon and salty because I got rejected when the artists they accepted are fucking awful

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