/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I love this combo anon I have a few saved. I'd love to do an outfit myself one day

new meta print obv perfect for it

>>9222307
Matryoshkas!

>>9222303
Surface Spell have released a folk themed dress if youre interested.

Why this thread don't bump?

>>9222313
More for you Anon, I wonder if it'll be a trend?

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>>9222635
Russian language without mistakes, so sweet :3

small dump since I'm also a sucker for those kind of coords

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That one Yolanda dress I can't remember the name of therefore can't look it up. I always got a traditional vibe from that

>>9225983
This one?

My uncle is from Norway and sent me a hat similar to this last year. Do you think I could make a coord based around it? I'm afraid people will go SJW on me because it's a Sami hat. My uncle is Sami and I asked him about it and he said he wouldn't mind.

>tfw your country's traditional garb is milanoo

Does anyone have pictures of a Russian princess coord that was entirely handmade? the girl had burgundy or dark hair, the dress fabric was of a soft golden tone iirc and she was wearing a matching kokoshnik.
I remember her being used as an example of good handmade lolita, a few years ago. I can't find any pics saved in my folders...

>>9223699
Source?

I got Yolanda's Berry River set recently, and I think it would be perfect for a folksy or country look.
....but I need help, anyone wanna help me make this coord more down-home-y?

>>9226109
Personally I'd swap out the bright red pumps and bolero for ones in neutral colors. Maybe an off-white/cream (or even olive) bolero and a brown ankle boot with a crochet design.

A strawberry-shaped bag would be a cute accessory.

>>9225992
Yes that one!

>>9226143
Wow, I actually have boots exactly like that, except the crochet is brown
But, the only other bolero I own is a big knitted white one
>being this new
>being this poor
It's my own fault, thank you very much

Please don't let this thread die

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>>9226002
I'm from Finland and here people freak out if someone uses bad quality costumey sami clothes but people are usually okay with genuine sami clothes being used in classy way. So I'd say you're okay to use the hat since it's actual sami hat and not a cheap copy.

Kalocsai (from Kalocsa, Hungary)

It is conjugated in the same way as the wine Tokaji is from the Tokaj region, so you can search for either kalocsa or kalocsai.

>>9226558
They get triggered the same way lesbians get when you wear a plaid shirt combined with a bad razor cut hairstyle?

I always thought Finns were even tempered.

>>9226465
I'm incredibly mad I didn't grab this
>matches absolutely nothing in my wardrobe but still

Kalocsai again

>>9226626
Well actually I referenced to a case when finnish beauty pageant contestant went to miss universe competition wearing a sami costume that was bought from halloween costume store. So it was a bigger scaled thing than someone in lolita dress and sami hat

I'm thinking of making traditional costume as a school project in few years, weaving the fabric myself etc. I might make some extra fabric to make lolified version of it. I'm from Finland and here the look of the folk costume depents on which part of the country you're from, even cities next to each other might have different ones. I hate the fact that "mine" are plain solid colour dress, usually red or blue, and almost all others have stripes and shit.

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>>9226057
queran ruffles

>>9222803
Can't let French and English have all the fun!

>>9226627

i wish i could do an estonian influenced coord but the traditional clothes are hideous lol

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>>9227044
lolita kokoshnik?

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>>9223694
what is this called?

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>>9227031
the beads and crosses aren't so bad. and you could incorporate the sleeve shape and head dress somehow too

susanne bisovsky make gorgeous, traditional fashion inspired clothes. I could totally see parts of it working for lolita, but unfortunately it's twice as expensive.

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>>9227075
i love seeing the lolita silhouette in designer fashion

>mfw I'm a sucker for these types of coords

>>9226465
I'm going to be wearing this set in red soonish and will contribute to the thread.

>>9227031
I like it.
You can use same color scheme with embroidery and red apron. Also beads

>>9226002
I just read a ton about sami people because I didnt know much about them and I was curious.

I hate how tumblr always assumes white people have so much "privilege" , when in reality thats mostly throughout NA that that is true. These people got shat open time and time again, jesus.

>>9227621
saami are not white, or at least not when they weren't mixed in with scandinavian people a couple of generations ago. it's like how north american aboriginals can look white but are not.

Wouldn't this all just be dolly-kei?

>>9227895
Nope. Why do you think so?

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>>9227897
Taking an excerpt from a blog excluding some extra words:

Dolly Kei is a japanese fashion inspired by vintage and antique dolls, vintage and antique clothing, Grimm's fairytales, gypsies, romance, goth, and very old clothing styles from eastern Europe.

All the pictures here seem to fall under that.

>>9227906
But a lot of those outfits were not inspired by Eastern European fashion, but by Middle European instead. Also, they follow the lolita guidelines, while Dolly Kei doesn't (with some exceptions).
I agree that Dolly Kei looks similar to traditional European fashion inspired lolita, but it is two different things.

>>9227937
I think the Grimm's fairytale's would count for the Central European part.

But I guess a better descriptor would be dolly-kei lolita.

>>9226558
I'm Swedish with sami friends, many sami sell their traditional clothes/handiworks for a living, so if you use it in a respectful, non-costumey way I don't think anybody but the SJWs will mind.

>>9228011
What about coords inspired not by European, but Asian, African or American traditional clothes? It would fit this thread as well, but would not fit dolly kei.

I actually thought about posting well done Wa and Qui lolita, but decided against it since we have seen that a lot already. Would love to see other cultures though!
I believe there was this lolita who made a dress from some traditional African fabric, but I might be mistaken.

>>9228078
I'm pretty sure that outside of Europe and Asia, must cultural fashion wouldn't mesh well with the lolita asthetic.

And to be perfectly honest, the few that do try aren't very good. If someone could actually pull it off, that'd be great.

>>9227702
Get off tumblr, Sami people are descended from migrants from the south and neanderthals like literally every European "white" people.

Please show me where, 'like native Americans,' a group of Homo Sapiens left Africa, went eastward, mixed with Homo Denisovans, stopped halfway through Mongolia, decided they'd had a change of heart, wandered back through Asia, up Europe, and finally settled in Norway. Oh, while leaving no descendants behind along the way.

If the only thing you're going by is Victorian Pictographs showing them with a tan, Snow is reflective. Meaning, if you live in a snowy area but spend a lot of time outside, you're going to tan.

Source: Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harrari

>>9228118
Anon, the only one who is #triggered is you here

>>9228118
Thooough it's important to note that whiteness has no real definition/parameters except as a way to separate those who are "white" from those who are "other." Even people from the same area/same skin color/same distant ancestors can still be seen as a different race. Race uses pseudo-science to justify itself ("look black and white skulls are different sizes!!"), but is by no means a scientific classification. Sami people are considered a separate ethnicity from "white Europeans(tm)" for sure. Who is "white" varies everywhere.

>>9228207
THIS.

>>9228207
Especially considering how the idea of "whiteness" has changed over the centuries. Slavs were seen as not white as recent as the early 1900s, and most of us are super pale. Same goes for the Irish. Now even Middle Easterners are considered "white".

>>9228207
Ethnicity =\= Race

Sami people are absolutely of the same race as other Nordics. What you're arguing is something like Saxon versus Norman, or Teuton versus Slav. What I was responding to was the idea that Sami people are comparable to Native Americans.

They are still white, and still Nordic. Everything else is an ever changing social construct.

>>9228218
>Same goes for the Irish. Now even Middle Easterners are considered "white".

They always have been, even as far back as the vastly outdated Caucasoid/Negroid/Mongoloid classification.

The only ones to try and argue otherwise have been in social terms as a means of trying to justify bigotry.

You guys are using the same rhetoric as people trying to justify discrimination. Again, I cannot stress this enough: Ethnicity is not, I repeat, ethnicity is not the same as race.

A Sami is to a Swede what a Norman is to an Anglo Saxon. They're the same thing but separated only by culture.

A Sami is not to a Native American what a Native American is to someone of, say, Han Chinese descent. They share a very distant ancestry, but closer than the ancestry between someone from Ethiopia and someone from Mexico. Racial classifications are, indeed, vastly cosmetic, but just because they've been used to justify horrible crimes against humanity doesn't make it pseudo science.

Saying one race has certain skeletal features based on observed fact isn't pseudo science, holy crap how do you even begin.

>>9228207
>Race uses pseudo-science to justify itself ("look black and white skulls are different sizes!!")

...do you even know what half those words mean

>>9227702
Should I tell my uncle that he isn't white because he's pale as fuck and still herds reindeer lol

>>9226623
thanks anon!

Okay to get this back on topic a bit... I am Native American (Choctaw tribe to be exact) and with all the #NODAPL protests that my people are going through and my love of my heritage, I'd like to figure out how to do a cute native inspired coord. Are there any prints that may be applicable? Perhaps something to do with deer, thunder birds, or serpents as they all have particular meaning in Choctaw lore? There is Meta's Temps De Fille (in pic), but a "deer coord" won't have that Native essence... Any ideas?

>>9228285
Race isn't an anthropological term. Literally the only thing that seperates us all is a few hormones, were 99.9% identical, especially anyone that isn't born directly from Africa.
We all have the same ancestory, don't act like you know what you're talking about.

>>9229457
Here is an example of Choctaw traditional dress. After colonization it was influenced by western dress, specifically peasant dresses from the Brittany Province of France. Aprons and beads were a motif in their designs... So I'm thinking I want to incorporate this with some authentic Choctaw beaded jewelry?

>>9222305
I have this, yet still don't know how to coord it so it's sitting in the closet unloved. Shame I can't sew for shit, she looks great!

>>9229505
If they were that influenced by European Dress, just get any non print dress with an apron and go to town with beading and accessories.

>>9226461
Somebody source this dress!

>>9227031
Same with my culture, but as other anons said, just adjust it a bit.
Like I'd go for a less brash version of the necklace the lady in the middle has got, and then mimic that dress design to a lolified shape. Your outfit will become apparent when there's 2 white strips of lace, the style of sleeve etc.

>>9227052
Dude

>>9229577
The dress is from a Trachten brand called "Turi Landhaus". If you want something like this, I recommend searching for "dirndl schwarz".

>>9229505
This is very very beautiful and I would love to see a native inspired outfit.
I think >>9229576 is right. Going off your image I think any plain burgundy dress would be great. If you finish this coord I would love to see! So please post to cgl or CoF in the future with it

>>9226002
If people are to go SJW, they're going to do it no matter what. As the hat is a proper one, I can confirm that we Sami won't get offended. I'm just really amused that you're considering making a coord around a culture you're not part of, and by that I do mean that I'm not really offended, just really amused. The same applies to all "traditional" or "cultural" touches to lolita coords.

Just have fun with the hat. We Sami love bright colors.

>>9229855
>amused someones making a coord for a culture they arent a part of

I dunno anon its really not hard to figure out. Some people find beauty in various cultures and just appreciate them. I'm not trying to sass you or anything, but I dont think its such a bewildering mystery.

>>9229855

Dude why are you on a filipino image board then if you are 'amused' that someone is participating in a culture they're not a part of.

>>9226705
As far as I know you can pick the type of dress you like no matter where it is located. Pic related is my areas dress based on a bride's dress so dunno what colors they actually used but this would be easily lolified if I found a beige striped dress. I think this would make actually a super cute natural kei and old school vibed coordinate.

>>9229855
Not that anon but her uncle is Sami so I would guess she is pretty close to the culture?

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>>9229840
Thanks! I'll see what I can do! Here is another picture of some traditional Choctaw dress.

>>9228207
>came to this thread to see cute folksy coords
>racial discussion
anons pls

>>9227079
Two steps
>Step one: Google 'Baby the Stars Shine Bright'
>Step two: Kill yourself

>>9238022
>google an entire brand for a single dress
stop trying so hard to be edgy

>>9227031
hi bitch don't shit talk our culture. also which one of our three other gulls are you
if you're rich you could find striped fabric and make a knee length skirt easily, and the northern Estonian embroidered 'käised' could lend themselves to a coord I'd say
shit quality pic related